00:00:27 I wonder if I can find bottled water around here. 00:01:47 I have bottle water here. I can teleport it on request 00:02:11 okloduk: tha's the troll there : 00:02:12 :D 00:02:37 TROLLBOT 00:02:47 what was that in reference upon 00:02:47 Mail it. 00:02:57 SET UP A TOLL BOOTH 00:03:17 omg you fed it!1!1!!!oneone 00:03:25 -!- olsner has quit ("Leaving"). 00:04:08 Send it to "c/o Modd, 4100 Kroes, Rockford, MI". I'm sure the delivery people will be able to figure out the rest. 00:06:13 * Sgeo[College] is now bored 00:06:19 * Sgeo[College] almost wrote "bred" 00:07:50 that's what happens when you go to the daycare! 00:08:16 Did you just suggest that I'd go to the daycare to bread? 00:08:19 breed? 00:08:22 sp? 00:08:35 Breed. 00:08:51 have you learned nothing from Pokemon!! 00:09:01 Unless you're applying crumbs to food. 00:11:27 00:11 thegoldensnitch: okloduk: Slava Pestov is the Creator 00:11:45 who's slava pestov? 00:12:14 omg ur in britain lol 00:12:42 wat. 00:13:27 Gracenotes: wat 00:13:52 no i'm not! 00:14:21 Bye all 00:14:31 -!- Sgeo[College] has quit (Client Quit). 00:15:56 how long has he been doing that? 00:16:08 probably since he was born 00:16:13 Britons are like that 00:16:23 you're talking about living in Britain, right 00:16:23 Gracenotes: i love touching humans 00:16:44 just fyi. 00:17:03 okay, and suppose I loved touching humus 00:17:12 okloduk: oh, i'd never have guessed that 00:17:24 or, even worse... touching hummus 00:17:40 hum+us 00:17:51 hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmus 00:18:01 i think i would prefer hummus to humus, except i don't think i've met the former 00:18:05 that's just one instance of what i'm capable of loving to touch. 00:18:26 ^ul (hu)S((m)S:^):^(us)S 00:18:27 hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ...too much output! 00:18:47 oerjan: is the "us" like the 0 at the end of 0.99999999999 00:18:51 recurring 00:19:07 no 00:19:12 ;) 00:19:19 ehird: problem with your suggestion is thegoldensnitch doesn't answer in priv. 00:19:26 meh 00:21:31 oh he's just curious 00:21:34 well understandable. 00:22:07 looks like a bot for the most part 00:22:13 okloduk: naw 00:22:18 he was in previously being very creepy 00:22:23 :O 00:22:25 *puts Daft Punk on iPod to exercise to* 00:22:26 cool 00:22:28 making guesses, asking him if people were related to him 00:22:33 :D 00:22:33 called a phone number, asked about who answered 00:22:35 awesome 00:22:46 he's basically stalking him. 00:22:57 DAFT PUNK IS PRETTY AWESUM Y/N 00:23:03 Gracenotes: what album 00:23:14 their live one... which is sort of a medley 00:23:19 ehird: oh? well that's much more interesting than a troll could ever be 00:23:19 trying to see which other ones I like best 00:23:28 irltroll 00:23:33 and then i'd understand wanting to ban him. 00:23:58 but without proof i wouldn't make such an assumption, i'm always interested in seeing creepy logs ofc 00:23:59 but 00:24:01 sleep time 00:24:03 see ya -> 00:24:06 <- 00:26:55 Zyzzyx Road (IPA pronunciation: /zʊzɪzɪkʰs/; or phonics: /zuh-zih-zix/) is a 2006 independent thriller film. It stars Leo Grillo, Katherine Heigl, and Tom Sizemore. The screenplay was written by John Penney, who also directed the film. 00:26:56 The film has gained a degree of notoriety due to its extremely low U.S. box office gross ($30 USD). 00:27:00 w/ budget of $2mil 00:27:01 :-D 00:29:17 wait... as in, 3 people saw it? 00:29:58 * coppro boggles 00:30:04 coppro: it's not that simple 00:30:05 it was intentional 00:30:09 oh 00:30:11 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyzzyx_Road 00:30:13 funny nonetheless 00:33:01 http://www.regrettheerror.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/queen-bee.jpg 00:37:08 O_o 00:37:30 your majesty is looking mighty stingy today 00:38:58 that's not a 'b'! 00:39:31 maybe it's half of one 00:41:09 La dee dee, one two three 00:41:41 :o 00:41:44 o: 00:58:00 "my intent is not to make you desire me." hawt 01:01:34 "well then you have succeeded" might be a good comeback 01:02:02 *making love until morning's light* might be a good response 01:09:06 or not :( 01:09:55 ehird: anyway, if necessary you guys should talk to the freenode staff about it 01:10:43 or just wait 01:15:46 -!- GreaseMonkey has joined. 01:18:37 Is there any revision control system that will allow you to add directories which are managed by the same RCS, including the control files? (Like if I could hg add foo/.hg). I want to keep my backups in an RCS, but I don't want to f*** around with checkouts in the checkout, I'd rather just confuse the host than try to make it behave "intelligently" 01:42:26 What advantages would you gain from that? 01:43:27 most RCSes store complete backups of every previous revision... I don't see why storing the lockfiles, etc. would help 01:49:48 "well then you have not failed" would be a more correct comeback. 01:56:37 ah right 02:02:29 -!- Dewio has changed nick to Dewi. 02:27:42 -!- Sgeo has joined. 03:55:29 Any thoughts on O3D/ 04:06:04 -!- bsmntbombdood_ has changed nick to bsmntbombdood. 05:30:59 3D + Browser = fail 05:38:22 coppro, why? 05:38:38 Stuff runs slow enough in my browser as is 05:40:24 -!- pikhq has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 05:45:45 -!- pikhq has joined. 05:46:23 -!- pikhq has quit (Client Quit). 05:59:34 -!- DarkPants has joined. 06:00:42 -!- Sgeo has quit ("Leaving"). 06:05:50 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving"). 06:12:19 -!- GreaseMonkey has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 06:32:20 -!- coppro has quit ("The only thing I know is that I know nothing"). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:06:44 -!- tombom has joined. 08:56:17 -!- olsner has joined. 09:01:54 As someone who has purchased programming titles from Amazon.com, you might be interested in a list of featured CSS, HTML, and java_script references. <<< yeah, a few haskell and scheme books and AOCP definitely suggest that. 09:02:31 They don't go into specifics, okloduk 09:02:47 They just go PROGRAMMING -> PROGRAMMING 09:03:01 Which is better than Amazon Japan, who doesn't even go that far 09:03:13 yes, maybe they should go statistics -> sense 09:03:17 hmm 09:03:24 how near do they go? 09:03:25 I buy books on 2ch and they propose me cameras and jewelry 09:03:34 :P 09:03:38 They just send the same shit to everyone I assume 09:03:42 okay yeah i prefer javascript 09:04:28 the problem is if i actually want something, then i probably know exactly what i want. the rest of the stuff i want is completely random books no one has ever heard about. 09:04:52 -!- Leonidas has quit (hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 09:05:07 -!- Leonidas has joined. 09:05:08 Programming Entity Framework 09:05:08 09:05:08 Dear Amazon.com Customer, 09:05:08 As someone who has purchased computer science manuals from Amazon.com, you might be interested in a list of featured Microsoft tech guides from O'Reilly. 09:05:09 whoops 09:05:10 anyway 09:05:17 "computer science manuals" xD 09:05:58 Let's see what Amazon advises me right now 09:06:25 what's a computer science manual 09:07:23 Flatland (Illustrated Edition), Traumeel Ointment 100 Gm Tube, Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions (Dover Thrift Editions),Traumeel-Topical Homeopathic Formula, 50 Gram Tube 09:07:31 What's with all the Traumeel? 09:07:40 I never bought anything even somehow related 09:07:55 dream eel? 09:08:00 well you're gay aren't you! 09:08:23 flatland 09:08:24 err 09:08:30 The Zombie Survival Guide, Godel's Proof, An Introduction to Gödel's Theorems, I hope they serve beer in hell, Sister Time (The Posleen War) 09:08:31 is that a book about 2d creatures 09:08:54 those sound much nicer than mine 09:08:54 Yes 09:08:59 "On Formally Undecidable Propositions of Principia Mathematica and Related Systems, by Kurt Gödel" 09:09:05 How is this even a book? 09:09:09 What Do Customers Ultimately Buy After Viewing This Item? 91% buy the item featured on this page: Installing Linux on a Dead Badger. 3% buy A Practical Guide to Linux(R) Commands, Editors, and Shell Programming. 2% buy Batman: The Dark Knight Returns. 09:09:14 That article is like 30 pages at most 09:10:00 "Recommended because you added Traumeel 100 TaBs to your Shopping Cart" 09:10:08 What 09:10:11 I never did that 09:10:20 Did someone snoop around in my Amazon account? 09:10:28 :. 09:10:41 Let's see my orders 09:11:03 what's a Traumeel 100 TaB 09:11:13 or TaBs 09:11:14 Last orders where "The Right to Arm Bears" and "Ghost Aliens" 09:11:18 As it should be 09:11:29 what are those 09:11:43 Great books 09:11:47 One is about space bears 09:11:47 like, fiction 09:11:55 oh 09:11:58 i'm listening. 09:11:58 No, it's not fiction. Real space bears. 09:12:20 well yes obviously it's real, you just hadn't told me about the space bears yet 09:12:32 http://www.amazon.com/Right-Arm-Bears-Gordon-Dickson/dp/0671319590/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240474343&sr=8-1 09:12:34 That book 09:12:46 okay next one, i have limited interest for fiction 09:13:07 ghost aliens 09:13:20 is that you know about cellular automata? 09:13:33 Not really. 09:13:34 Well, uh... my amazon.com recommendations are: "Polk Audio Monitor 70 3-Way Floorstanding Speaker", "PlayStation 3 Frontman Wireless Guitar - Black", "Sony SS-B1000 5 1/8-Inch bookshelf speakers (Pair)" and "ACOUSTIC RESEARCH AP-16100W 100' White 16 Gauge Oxygen-Free Speaker Wire". And as far as I know I have never purchased anything audio-related from Amazon. 09:13:50 Do you remember the website REAL Ultimate Power? 09:14:08 no 09:14:22 Hm. 09:14:39 "Recommended because you added Pioneer VSX-917V-S Home Theater Receiver (Silver) to your Shopping Cart". Hm. Maybe I wanted to see their shipping price for something like that or something. 09:14:40 http://www.amazon.com/Ghosts-Aliens-Trey-Hamburger/dp/0307407306/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240474469&sr=1-1 09:14:41 fizzie: they deduce what you do by the way you move your mouse. 09:15:02 Customers Who Bought This Item Also Bought 09:15:02 Page 1 of 20 (Start over) 09:15:02 Back 09:15:02 * 09:15:02 REAL Ultimate Power: The Official Ninja Book by Robert Hamburger 09:15:03 4.3 out of 5 stars (229) $9.95 09:15:05 * 09:15:07 The Alphabet Of Manliness by Maddox 09:15:09 4.5 out of 5 stars (225) $10.85 09:15:11 * 09:15:13 The Zombie Survival Guide: Complete Protection from... by Max Brooks 09:15:15 4.4 out of 5 stars (398) $10.94 09:15:17 I bought all those books :( 09:15:19 I'm a statistic. 09:15:35 :D 09:16:01 well, they do sound interesting. 09:16:22 Aw, all my recommendations are because of that home theater receiver I didn't even seriously want to buy. And anyway I'm not quite sure how "McCulloch MC-1275 Heavy Duty Steam Cleaner " is related to it. 09:16:39 :D 09:16:46 fizzie: have you bought things other? 09:16:56 (Or "Lavazza Crema e Aroma Coffee Beans, 2.2-Pound Bag"... I guess music-listeners are avid coffee drinkers?) 09:17:10 Yes, I've bought a book or two. Apparently they weren't interesting enough. 09:17:14 :P 09:17:45 Buy "Underground Fisting III", you'll get more colorful suggestions. 09:17:53 I don't suppose these recommendations differ between amazon.com and .de/.co.uk? I'm not sure which one I used for actual purchases. 09:18:25 "You have no Amazon purchases or items you told us you own." Maybe it is domain-specific, then. Or they just forgot my orders. 09:18:37 It's domain specific. 09:18:44 ZAt least for some 09:20:18 Yes, if I use .co.uk I get (in the "items you own" page) the TAOCP box, "Concrete Mathematics: Foundation for Computer Science" (wait, I don't remember buying this...), "Art of 3D Computer Animation and Effects" (as a course text-book, and not even for me) and "My Tank Is Fight". Not a very long shopping history. 09:21:10 i own more items than you. 09:21:26 The recommendations here are more sensible. Although I do get the "The Zombie Survival Guide: Complete Protection from the Living Dead" result too. I guess Amazon's just worried about loyal customers being eaten by zombies. 09:21:35 "my tank is fight" :D 09:21:56 Also "How to Survive a Robot Uprising: Tips on Defending Yourself Against the Coming Rebellion". It certainly sounds like they're trying to tell me something. 09:21:59 It's a good book 09:22:15 fizzie : Did you buy any internet related book? 09:22:25 Like the Alphabet of Manliness or something 09:22:47 I just listed my complete shopping history up in the third-to-last comment before this one. 09:23:31 are all recommendations mailed to me? i can't actually access the user, my dad just decided to start forwarding amazon spam to me. 09:23:47 (essentially my account, i just don't pay anything naturally) 09:23:48 Both the zombie and the robot books are "Recommended because you purchased My Tank is Fight". I guess that makes sense. 09:23:54 Yes. 09:24:00 Internet people buy internet books 09:24:23 The Alphabet of Manliness and Real Ultimate Power shouldn't be far behind 09:24:43 "a practical guide to racism" 09:24:58 how's that on the front page? 09:25:07 'cause you're a racest 09:25:11 Also i also get that one 09:25:18 but i don't buy stuff from amazon. 09:25:24 Let's lynch niggers or something 09:25:31 hmm 09:25:35 okloduk : It also takes into accounts the books you looked at 09:25:45 i guess it could be something like anti-racism, but sure as hell doesn't look like it 09:25:54 Slereah_: oh. that would be what you linked. 09:26:09 Slereah_: they remember my ip and store what i've viewed? 09:26:23 Well, do you have an account? 09:26:49 not in any useful sense 09:26:53 relevant 09:26:55 that is 09:26:59 But do you have one, logged on right no 09:27:00 w 09:27:03 err no 09:27:11 Hm 09:27:23 Then it's prolly a cookie or something 09:28:08 i should probably go now. i'm being in a hurry of sorts. 09:28:24 bye 09:28:56 DON'T TRY TO STOP ME 09:29:04 -> 09:29:14 'kay 09:30:09 -!- psygnisfive has joined. 09:54:24 -!- olsner has quit ("Leaving"). 10:23:07 -!- neldoreth has joined. 10:35:41 -!- neldoret1 has joined. 10:41:41 -!- neldoret1 has quit (Client Quit). 10:50:17 -!- neldoreth has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 10:54:49 -!- DarkPants has quit ("YES -> thor-ainor.it <- THIS IS *DELICIOUS*!"). 10:57:31 -!- jix has joined. 10:57:42 -!- jix has quit (Client Quit). 10:57:53 -!- jix has joined. 10:59:44 -!- Gracenotes has quit (Remote closed the connection). 12:13:35 -!- jix_ has joined. 12:14:04 -!- jix has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 12:20:08 -!- jix has joined. 12:25:06 -!- jix has quit ("leaving"). 12:25:36 -!- jix has joined. 12:27:55 -!- jix_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 12:32:05 -!- neldoreth has joined. 12:55:27 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 13:37:05 -!- neldoret1 has joined. 13:40:25 so long uninteresting story, here goes 13:40:54 you know how when there's a melody playd with an instrument that does not give you the beat, basically you need to deduce where bars start and end yourself 13:41:11 now, anyone who know music at all will automatically find the correct "intuitive" barring 13:41:54 now i've always enjoyed my music as weird as possible, and i wasn't particularly good at this barring thing (and i still don't find the same intuitive barring every time, for instance recently for one of ihope's melodies). 13:42:03 so there was this ice cream truck 13:42:17 and i remember being fascinated by the melody it plays when i was a kid 13:42:38 because the times are first 4/4, then an extra beat, then 3/4 till the end 13:43:06 now i suddenly realized this has probably just been a failure in hearing what it's supposed to be 13:43:48 and, after a moment of intensive thinking (takes a moment to find another interpretation for something you've known since you were 6), i ruined the melody. 13:43:57 it's not interesting now that it's 3/4. 13:44:07 *played 13:44:31 and instrument in question was something of a sine wave. 13:44:58 *good at this barring thing as a kid 13:45:12 *the same intuitive barring as most people 13:45:29 I think our (read: the one that goes around in the Helsinki/Espoo region) ice-cream truck sound sounds also like it could be 3/4. I wonder if it's a standard. 13:46:17 e|4740.e|4740.e|8.85.5|3..... 13:46:31 standard scale, z-a0-9A-Z 13:46:48 Yes, that's really very similar. At least the shape of it; I'm very non-musical in other ways. 13:47:16 -!- neldoreth has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 13:47:39 I have to immediately-depart now, anyway. But it's good they have standardized the ice-cream truck sound. Wouldn't want people getting confused. 13:47:48 yep 13:54:40 err 13:55:07 |5.52.2|0..... ofc, i'm used to minor 13:55:15 not that anyone actually tried that out 14:04:36 http://www.vjn.fi/oklopol/music/anicecreamymelody.mid <<< for the wrong melody. 14:42:11 Hmmmmmmmmm 14:42:21 #1 rule of IRC: There shall be no more bots than people. So I need more people in #plof :P 14:49:33 * okloduk is tempted to join a few bots on #plof 14:54:12 Fun facts about the DMD frontend: nothing is private or protected, everything is public 14:55:39 Deewiant, any idea why 14:56:20 Convenience? 14:56:25 mhm 15:05:17 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 15:22:16 -!- nooga has joined. 15:22:22 dang 15:22:30 wtf is this apple shit 15:22:41 how am i supposed to code under that :< 15:23:14 -!- rabideejit has joined. 15:24:14 Hello. I have an irc bot which executes a few esoteric languages, in case anyone would like to see. 15:25:53 show plz :> 15:26:01 what langs does it support? 15:26:16 so far, brainfuck, malbolge, whirl, unlambda and the sk calculus. 15:26:28 * nooga fights osx macfaggotry 15:26:54 rabideejit: bring it please 15:26:58 -!- esotericbot has joined. 15:27:05 >help 15:27:05 Try 'help' followed by one of the following: wh mb sk bf ul 15:27:24 >mb (=<`$9]7<5YXz7wT.3,+O/o'K%$H"'~D|#z@b=`{^Lx8%$Xmrkpohm-kNi;gsedcba`_^]\[ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA@?>=<;:9876543s+O HEllO WORld 15:27:46 >bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. 15:27:46 Hello World! 15:27:55 ^bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. 15:27:55 Hello World!. 15:27:55 You are a blight upon the landscape. 15:28:14 have a shot! If you don't like anything, I can change it. It's not yet running upon the net, only my pc. 15:28:15 Hey, it talks. :-P 15:28:22 It seems someone found a bug already :p 15:28:35 >bf [><] 15:28:35 No output, sorry! ( Unless your program printed this message ) 15:28:35 wo 15:28:41 >bf [>.<] 15:28:42 No output, sorry! ( Unless your program printed this message ) 15:28:50 Oh, wait. 15:28:52 >bf +[>.<] 15:29:06 killed? :d 15:29:07 No loop detection, then? :-P 15:29:10 ( it failed silently there ) 15:29:14 it just output nothing 15:29:16 >bf ,[.,] /// 12345 15:29:17 12345 15:29:37 the child process are killed after a few seconds, or when they use to much memory 15:29:53 ^bf [><] 15:29:54 You are a blight upon the landscape. 15:30:11 Methinks that "No output, sorry!" is a bit verbose 15:30:12 It uses the bff4 interpreter 15:30:20 Deewiant: It's true 15:30:36 ^hmm 15:30:44 ^bf 15:30:55 >ul ((SPAM )S:^):^ 15:30:55 >tyu 15:30:55 No output, sorry! ( Unless your program printed this message ) 15:30:55 You are a blight upon the landscape. 15:31:01 ^ul ((SPAM )S:^):^ 15:31:01 SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM ...too much output! 15:31:06 Hmm. 15:31:08 ahh 15:31:10 I see 15:31:14 EGGS 15:31:18 I never realized fungot was another bot 15:31:18 rabideejit: on the door. 15:31:20 confusion there 15:31:29 Thought it was like, somebody.. 15:31:35 oh 15:32:07 Ah 15:32:14 Or am I more confused? Too much haskell 15:32:18 Soo much confusion 15:33:10 Ah right, fungot's ^ul is Underload, not Unlambda. 15:33:11 Deewiant: something tapped on the door! and you lot back there—' he turned and waved at the leading troll. there was doing the washing and the summoning of the small dusty bedroom window at the glow at the end of his cane. 15:33:27 ahh I see 15:33:54 Is there a page for fungot? 15:33:55 rabideejit: ' yes, probably the excitement.' herb was hypnotized by the glassy stare and tried fnord to focus. 15:34:08 Not that I know of. There's source, though. 15:34:25 Cool, where at? 15:34:25 rabideejit: Source at http://zem.fi/~fis/fungot.b98.txt 15:34:26 Deewiant: " and then we'd be really inconspicuous." he glanced out of the swimming pool." 15:34:30 Cheers 15:34:39 Recognize the language? :-) 15:35:19 it's befunge 15:35:26 Indeed 15:35:35 but it runs on the net? 15:35:42 Yep, that too 15:35:56 hahaha! The joys 15:36:05 It's Befunge-98, you see 15:36:33 Which, with its extension mechanism (called "fingerprints"), has spawned interpreters that can do things like socket communication 15:37:34 wonder if it's possible to write neat C to b98 compiler 15:38:15 I don't think any interpreter supports calling external C functions yet, though AnMaster was working on binding to libffi 15:39:04 -!- FireyFly has joined. 15:39:23 Deewiant, I was yes. But it turned out to be too tricky to properly describe from inside befunge. 15:39:31 I mean the calling convention 15:40:19 oh 15:40:35 i meant C as a language, not fully legal C99 with libc 15:40:38 http://esolangs.org/wiki/BrainFNORD 15:40:40 yawn 15:40:41 -!- FireyFly has changed nick to FireFly. 15:40:52 nooga, this was with a ffi library 15:41:15 A safe subset of C (no arbitrary pointers and such) which is contained within a single .c file could probably be done without too much brain damage 15:41:17 still, it was a nightmare trying to work out how to describe the layout of structs and unions from inside a befunge program 15:41:19 and so on 15:41:46 Deewiant, variable argument count isn't even supported by libffi iirc 15:41:53 so you can't do printf/scanf or such 15:43:12 um 15:43:38 oh you meant compiling C to befunge 15:43:46 pretty sure I saw that for some subset before 15:43:59 oh 15:44:12 or maybe I'm mixing it up with the other way around (and then a non-selfmodifying subset) 15:44:22 J^4 had something which was unfinished 15:44:34 http://www.phlamethrower.co.uk/befunge/c2b.php 15:46:09 um a friend who isn't very good at computer just asked me what a good antivirus program for windows is. Anyone know? Only one I can think of is AVG but I don't know how good it is these days. 15:46:38 I guess you would know Deewiant ^ 15:46:39 I think AVG is the best free one in terms of detection rate 15:46:47 I don't know beyond that 15:46:52 I don't use antivirus programs pretty much ever 15:47:18 Deewiant, good enough for someone who won't remember "are you sure?" dialogs 5 seconds after they clicked yes without reading the text? 15:47:39 Beats me, people complain about its UI 15:48:08 I don't use antivirus programs like that 15:48:20 the person used a trial version of McAfee before he said. 15:48:30 I take every effort to make sure they don't start up automatically and use them only as on-demand scanners 15:48:33 huh 15:48:39 no i am using osx 15:48:48 eh? 15:48:57 what has that got to do with it. 15:48:59 and i feel like a faggot :< 15:49:04 * AnMaster use Linux 15:49:09 now* 15:49:31 i am using osx and linux, i'm trying to code for iphone ;p 15:49:36 it's my new job 15:49:41 uses* 15:49:49 nooga, hah 15:51:36 don't get me wrong, osx is quite good piece of software: quite unixy, ergonomic gui, support etc. 15:52:24 nooga, and the windows look like they went into a vacuum cleaner when you minimize them! ;P 15:52:27 but coding for osx and iphone was mean to be glittering, easy, pretty, funny, chilling etc etc, like every other thing invented by apple 15:53:17 (though to be fair you can actually turn that eye candy off iirc) 15:53:25 but at the moment i'm trying to hack this xcode faggotry, understand one milion new extensions and file formats 15:53:58 and use this smalltalkish objC that went mad 15:54:46 and terminal is also a bit fucked up 15:54:55 I agree, the terminal is crap. 15:55:22 I hate IDEs. I like clean simple editors like VIM. Automatically generating good documentation as you go along is more important. In my opinion. Then again, I'm unemployed! :D 15:55:26 gayphone :< 15:56:50 but there is also good side: macbook composes pretty well with my sports jacket 15:56:51 ;D 15:57:58 Are there any intercal interpreters, or is a compiled language only? 15:59:25 hah 15:59:42 now it's time to work on my SADOL3 compiler 15:59:53