< 1240444827 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can find bottled water around here. < 1240444907 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have bottle water here. I can teleport it on request < 1240444931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloduk: tha's the troll there : < 1240444932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1240444957 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TROLLBOT < 1240444967 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that in reference upon < 1240444967 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mail it. < 1240444977 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SET UP A TOLL BOOTH < 1240444997 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg you fed it!1!1!!!oneone < 1240445005 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1240445048 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send it to "c/o Modd, 4100 Kroes, Rockford, MI". I'm sure the delivery people will be able to figure out the rest. < 1240445173 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is now bored
< 1240445179 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION almost wrote "bred"
< 1240445270 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what happens when you go to the daycare! < 1240445296 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you just suggest that I'd go to the daycare to bread? < 1240445299 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :breed? < 1240445302 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sp? < 1240445315 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Breed. < 1240445331 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you learned nothing from Pokemon!! < 1240445341 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're applying crumbs to food. < 1240445487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:11 thegoldensnitch: okloduk: Slava Pestov is the Creator < 1240445505 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's slava pestov? < 1240445534 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg ur in britain lol < 1240445562 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1240445607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: wat < 1240445632 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i'm not! < 1240445661 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye all < 1240445671 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1240445756 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long has he been doing that? < 1240445768 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably since he was born < 1240445773 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Britons are like that < 1240445783 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're talking about living in Britain, right < 1240445783 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: i love touching humans < 1240445804 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just fyi. < 1240445823 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, and suppose I loved touching humus < 1240445832 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloduk: oh, i'd never have guessed that < 1240445844 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, even worse... touching hummus < 1240445860 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum+us < 1240445871 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmus < 1240445881 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i would prefer hummus to humus, except i don't think i've met the former < 1240445885 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just one instance of what i'm capable of loving to touch. < 1240445906 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (hu)S((m)S:^):^(us)S < 1240445907 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ...too much output! < 1240445927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is the "us" like the 0 at the end of 0.99999999999 < 1240445931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :recurring < 1240445947 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1240445952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1240445959 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: problem with your suggestion is thegoldensnitch doesn't answer in priv. < 1240445966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1240446091 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he's just curious < 1240446094 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well understandable. < 1240446127 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like a bot for the most part < 1240446133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloduk: naw < 1240446138 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was in previously being very creepy < 1240446143 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1240446145 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*puts Daft Punk on iPod to exercise to* < 1240446146 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1240446148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :making guesses, asking him if people were related to him < 1240446153 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1240446153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :called a phone number, asked about who answered < 1240446155 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1240446166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's basically stalking him. < 1240446177 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAFT PUNK IS PRETTY AWESUM Y/N < 1240446183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: what album < 1240446194 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :their live one... which is sort of a medley < 1240446199 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: oh? well that's much more interesting than a troll could ever be < 1240446199 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to see which other ones I like best < 1240446208 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :irltroll < 1240446213 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i'd understand wanting to ban him. < 1240446238 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but without proof i wouldn't make such an assumption, i'm always interested in seeing creepy logs ofc < 1240446239 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1240446241 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep time < 1240446243 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see ya -> < 1240446246 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- < 1240446415 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zyzzyx Road (IPA pronunciation: /zʊzɪzɪkʰs/; or phonics: /zuh-zih-zix/) is a 2006 independent thriller film. It stars Leo Grillo, Katherine Heigl, and Tom Sizemore. The screenplay was written by John Penney, who also directed the film. < 1240446416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The film has gained a degree of notoriety due to its extremely low U.S. box office gross ($30 USD). < 1240446420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w/ budget of $2mil < 1240446421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1240446557 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... as in, 3 people saw it? < 1240446598 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION boggles
< 1240446604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: it's not that simple < 1240446605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was intentional < 1240446609 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1240446611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyzzyx_Road < 1240446613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny nonetheless < 1240446781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.regrettheerror.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/queen-bee.jpg < 1240447028 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1240447050 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your majesty is looking mighty stingy today < 1240447138 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a 'b'! < 1240447171 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's half of one < 1240447269 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :La dee dee, one two three < 1240447301 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1240447304 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o: < 1240448280 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"my intent is not to make you desire me." hawt < 1240448494 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"well then you have succeeded" might be a good comeback < 1240448522 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*making love until morning's light* might be a good response < 1240448946 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not :( < 1240448995 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: anyway, if necessary you guys should talk to the freenode staff about it < 1240449043 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just wait < 1240449346 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1240449517 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any revision control system that will allow you to add directories which are managed by the same RCS, including the control files? (Like if I could hg add foo/.hg). I want to keep my backups in an RCS, but I don't want to f*** around with checkouts in the checkout, I'd rather just confuse the host than try to make it behave "intelligently" < 1240450946 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What advantages would you gain from that? < 1240451007 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most RCSes store complete backups of every previous revision... I don't see why storing the lockfiles, etc. would help < 1240451388 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"well then you have not failed" would be a more correct comeback. < 1240451797 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1240452149 0 :Dewio!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Dewi < 1240453662 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1240458929 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any thoughts on O3D/ < 1240459564 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1240464659 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3D + Browser = fail < 1240465102 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, why? < 1240465118 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuff runs slow enough in my browser as is < 1240465224 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1240465545 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@dialup-4.88.161.182.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1240465583 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1240466374 0 :DarkPants!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1240466442 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1240466750 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1240467139 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1240468340 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"The only thing I know is that I know nothing" < 1240473599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1240473600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1240474004 0 :tombom!n=tombomp@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1240476977 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1240477314 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As someone who has purchased programming titles from Amazon.com, you might be interested in a list of featured CSS, HTML, and java_script references. <<< yeah, a few haskell and scheme books and AOCP definitely suggest that. < 1240477351 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't go into specifics, okloduk < 1240477367 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just go PROGRAMMING -> PROGRAMMING < 1240477381 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is better than Amazon Japan, who doesn't even go that far < 1240477393 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, maybe they should go statistics -> sense < 1240477397 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1240477404 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how near do they go? < 1240477405 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I buy books on 2ch and they propose me cameras and jewelry < 1240477414 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1240477418 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just send the same shit to everyone I assume < 1240477422 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay yeah i prefer javascript < 1240477468 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is if i actually want something, then i probably know exactly what i want. the rest of the stuff i want is completely random books no one has ever heard about. < 1240477492 0 :Leonidas!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1240477507 0 :Leonidas!n=Leonidas@unaffiliated/leonidas JOIN :#esoteric < 1240477508 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming Entity Framework < 1240477508 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1240477508 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear Amazon.com Customer, < 1240477508 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As someone who has purchased computer science manuals from Amazon.com, you might be interested in a list of featured Microsoft tech guides from O'Reilly. < 1240477509 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1240477510 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1240477517 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"computer science manuals" xD < 1240477558 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see what Amazon advises me right now < 1240477585 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a computer science manual < 1240477643 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flatland (Illustrated Edition), Traumeel Ointment 100 Gm Tube, Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions (Dover Thrift Editions),Traumeel-Topical Homeopathic Formula, 50 Gram Tube < 1240477651 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with all the Traumeel? < 1240477660 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never bought anything even somehow related < 1240477675 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dream eel? < 1240477680 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you're gay aren't you! < 1240477703 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flatland < 1240477704 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1240477710 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Zombie Survival Guide, Godel's Proof, An Introduction to Gödel's Theorems, I hope they serve beer in hell, Sister Time (The Posleen War) < 1240477711 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a book about 2d creatures < 1240477734 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those sound much nicer than mine < 1240477734 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1240477739 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On Formally Undecidable Propositions of Principia Mathematica and Related Systems, by Kurt Gödel" < 1240477745 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is this even a book? < 1240477749 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Do Customers Ultimately Buy After Viewing This Item? 91% buy the item featured on this page: Installing Linux on a Dead Badger. 3% buy A Practical Guide to Linux(R) Commands, Editors, and Shell Programming. 2% buy Batman: The Dark Knight Returns. < 1240477754 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That article is like 30 pages at most < 1240477800 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Recommended because you added Traumeel 100 TaBs to your Shopping Cart" < 1240477808 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1240477811 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never did that < 1240477820 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did someone snoop around in my Amazon account? < 1240477828 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::. < 1240477841 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see my orders < 1240477863 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a Traumeel 100 TaB < 1240477873 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or TaBs < 1240477874 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last orders where "The Right to Arm Bears" and "Ghost Aliens" < 1240477878 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it should be < 1240477889 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are those < 1240477903 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great books < 1240477907 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One is about space bears < 1240477907 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, fiction < 1240477915 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1240477918 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm listening. < 1240477918 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's not fiction. Real space bears. < 1240477940 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes obviously it's real, you just hadn't told me about the space bears yet < 1240477952 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/Right-Arm-Bears-Gordon-Dickson/dp/0671319590/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240474343&sr=8-1 < 1240477954 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That book < 1240477966 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay next one, i have limited interest for fiction < 1240477987 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghost aliens < 1240478000 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that you know about cellular automata? < 1240478013 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. < 1240478014 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, uh... my amazon.com recommendations are: "Polk Audio Monitor 70 3-Way Floorstanding Speaker", "PlayStation 3 Frontman Wireless Guitar - Black", "Sony SS-B1000 5 1/8-Inch bookshelf speakers (Pair)" and "ACOUSTIC RESEARCH AP-16100W 100' White 16 Gauge Oxygen-Free Speaker Wire". And as far as I know I have never purchased anything audio-related from Amazon. < 1240478030 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you remember the website REAL Ultimate Power? < 1240478048 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1240478062 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1240478079 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Recommended because you added Pioneer VSX-917V-S Home Theater Receiver (Silver) to your Shopping Cart". Hm. Maybe I wanted to see their shipping price for something like that or something. < 1240478080 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/Ghosts-Aliens-Trey-Hamburger/dp/0307407306/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240474469&sr=1-1 < 1240478081 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they deduce what you do by the way you move your mouse. < 1240478102 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Customers Who Bought This Item Also Bought < 1240478102 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Page 1 of 20 (Start over) < 1240478102 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back < 1240478102 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : * < 1240478102 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : REAL Ultimate Power: The Official Ninja Book by Robert Hamburger < 1240478103 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4.3 out of 5 stars (229) $9.95 < 1240478105 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : * < 1240478107 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : The Alphabet Of Manliness by Maddox < 1240478109 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4.5 out of 5 stars (225) $10.85 < 1240478111 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : * < 1240478113 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : The Zombie Survival Guide: Complete Protection from... by Max Brooks < 1240478115 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4.4 out of 5 stars (398) $10.94 < 1240478117 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought all those books :( < 1240478119 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a statistic. < 1240478135 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1240478161 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they do sound interesting. < 1240478182 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, all my recommendations are because of that home theater receiver I didn't even seriously want to buy. And anyway I'm not quite sure how "McCulloch MC-1275 Heavy Duty Steam Cleaner " is related to it. < 1240478199 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1240478206 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: have you bought things other? < 1240478216 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or "Lavazza Crema e Aroma Coffee Beans, 2.2-Pound Bag"... I guess music-listeners are avid coffee drinkers?) < 1240478230 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I've bought a book or two. Apparently they weren't interesting enough. < 1240478234 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1240478265 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buy "Underground Fisting III", you'll get more colorful suggestions. < 1240478273 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose these recommendations differ between amazon.com and .de/.co.uk? I'm not sure which one I used for actual purchases. < 1240478305 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You have no Amazon purchases or items you told us you own." Maybe it is domain-specific, then. Or they just forgot my orders. < 1240478317 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's domain specific. < 1240478324 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZAt least for some < 1240478418 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, if I use .co.uk I get (in the "items you own" page) the TAOCP box, "Concrete Mathematics: Foundation for Computer Science" (wait, I don't remember buying this...), "Art of 3D Computer Animation and Effects" (as a course text-book, and not even for me) and "My Tank Is Fight". Not a very long shopping history. < 1240478470 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i own more items than you. < 1240478486 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The recommendations here are more sensible. Although I do get the "The Zombie Survival Guide: Complete Protection from the Living Dead" result too. I guess Amazon's just worried about loyal customers being eaten by zombies. < 1240478495 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"my tank is fight" :D < 1240478516 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also "How to Survive a Robot Uprising: Tips on Defending Yourself Against the Coming Rebellion". It certainly sounds like they're trying to tell me something. < 1240478519 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a good book < 1240478535 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie : Did you buy any internet related book? < 1240478545 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the Alphabet of Manliness or something < 1240478567 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just listed my complete shopping history up in the third-to-last comment before this one. < 1240478611 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are all recommendations mailed to me? i can't actually access the user, my dad just decided to start forwarding amazon spam to me. < 1240478627 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(essentially my account, i just don't pay anything naturally) < 1240478628 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both the zombie and the robot books are "Recommended because you purchased My Tank is Fight". I guess that makes sense. < 1240478634 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1240478640 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet people buy internet books < 1240478663 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Alphabet of Manliness and Real Ultimate Power shouldn't be far behind < 1240478683 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a practical guide to racism" < 1240478698 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's that on the front page? < 1240478707 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cause you're a racest < 1240478711 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also i also get that one < 1240478718 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't buy stuff from amazon. < 1240478724 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's lynch niggers or something < 1240478731 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1240478735 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloduk : It also takes into accounts the books you looked at < 1240478745 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it could be something like anti-racism, but sure as hell doesn't look like it < 1240478754 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: oh. that would be what you linked. < 1240478769 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: they remember my ip and store what i've viewed? < 1240478783 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, do you have an account? < 1240478809 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in any useful sense < 1240478813 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :relevant < 1240478815 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is < 1240478819 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But do you have one, logged on right no < 1240478820 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w < 1240478823 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err no < 1240478831 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1240478843 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it's prolly a cookie or something < 1240478888 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably go now. i'm being in a hurry of sorts. < 1240478904 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1240478936 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T TRY TO STOP ME < 1240478944 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1240478954 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'kay < 1240479009 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1240480464 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1240482187 0 :neldoreth!n=user@unixboard/users/neldoreth JOIN :#esoteric < 1240482941 0 :neldoret1!n=user@77.117.93.184.wireless.dyn.drei.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1240483301 0 :neldoret1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1240483817 0 :neldoreth!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1240484089 0 :DarkPants!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"YES -> thor-ainor.it <- THIS IS *DELICIOUS*!" < 1240484251 0 :jix!n=jix@tmo-104-154.customers.d1-online.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1240484262 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1240484273 0 :jix!n=jix@tmo-104-154.customers.d1-online.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1240484384 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1240488815 0 :jix_!n=jix@tmo-104-154.customers.d1-online.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1240488844 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1240489208 0 :jix!n=jix@tmo-104-154.customers.d1-online.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1240489506 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1240489536 0 :jix!n=jix@80.187.104.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1240489675 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1240489925 0 :neldoreth!n=user@unixboard/users/neldoreth JOIN :#esoteric < 1240491327 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1240493825 0 :neldoret1!n=user@81-223-127-237.stpeter.xdsl-line.inode.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1240494025 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so long uninteresting story, here goes < 1240494054 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know how when there's a melody playd with an instrument that does not give you the beat, basically you need to deduce where bars start and end yourself < 1240494071 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, anyone who know music at all will automatically find the correct "intuitive" barring < 1240494114 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i've always enjoyed my music as weird as possible, and i wasn't particularly good at this barring thing (and i still don't find the same intuitive barring every time, for instance recently for one of ihope's melodies). < 1240494123 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there was this ice cream truck < 1240494137 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i remember being fascinated by the melody it plays when i was a kid < 1240494158 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the times are first 4/4, then an extra beat, then 3/4 till the end < 1240494186 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i suddenly realized this has probably just been a failure in hearing what it's supposed to be < 1240494228 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, after a moment of intensive thinking (takes a moment to find another interpretation for something you've known since you were 6), i ruined the melody. < 1240494237 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not interesting now that it's 3/4. < 1240494247 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*played < 1240494271 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and instrument in question was something of a sine wave. < 1240494298 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*good at this barring thing as a kid < 1240494312 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the same intuitive barring as most people < 1240494329 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think our (read: the one that goes around in the Helsinki/Espoo region) ice-cream truck sound sounds also like it could be 3/4. I wonder if it's a standard. < 1240494377 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e|4740.e|4740.e|8.85.5|3..... < 1240494391 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :standard scale, z-a0-9A-Z < 1240494408 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's really very similar. At least the shape of it; I'm very non-musical in other ways. < 1240494436 0 :neldoreth!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1240494459 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to immediately-depart now, anyway. But it's good they have standardized the ice-cream truck sound. Wouldn't want people getting confused. < 1240494468 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1240494880 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1240494907 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|5.52.2|0..... ofc, i'm used to minor < 1240494915 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that anyone actually tried that out < 1240495476 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.vjn.fi/oklopol/music/anicecreamymelody.mid <<< for the wrong melody. < 1240497731 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmmmmmmm < 1240497741 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1 rule of IRC: There shall be no more bots than people. So I need more people in #plof :P < 1240498173 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is tempted to join a few bots on #plof
< 1240498452 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun facts about the DMD frontend: nothing is private or protected, everything is public < 1240498539 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, any idea why < 1240498580 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Convenience? < 1240498585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1240499117 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1240500136 0 :nooga!n=jacekmal@188.33.8.164 JOIN :#esoteric < 1240500142 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dang < 1240500150 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is this apple shit < 1240500161 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how am i supposed to code under that :< < 1240500194 0 :rabideejit!n=spoon@88-110-81-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1240500254 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello. I have an irc bot which executes a few esoteric languages, in case anyone would like to see. < 1240500353 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :show plz :> < 1240500361 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what langs does it support? < 1240500376 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far, brainfuck, malbolge, whirl, unlambda and the sk calculus. < 1240500388 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION fights osx macfaggotry
< 1240500414 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rabideejit: bring it please < 1240500418 0 :esotericbot!n=esoteric@88-110-81-114.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1240500425 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>help < 1240500425 0 :esotericbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try 'help' followed by one of the following: wh mb sk bf ul < 1240500444 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>mb (=<`$9]7<5YXz7wT.3,+O/o'K%$H"'~D|#z@b=`{^Lx8%$Xmrkpohm-kNi;gsedcba`_^]\[ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA@?>=<;:9876543s+Obf ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. < 1240500466 0 :esotericbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World! < 1240500475 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. < 1240500475 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World!. < 1240500475 0 :esotericbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are a blight upon the landscape. < 1240500494 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a shot! If you don't like anything, I can change it. It's not yet running upon the net, only my pc. < 1240500495 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, it talks. :-P < 1240500502 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems someone found a bug already :p < 1240500515 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>bf [><] < 1240500515 0 :esotericbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output, sorry! ( Unless your program printed this message ) < 1240500515 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wo < 1240500521 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>bf [>.<] < 1240500522 0 :esotericbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output, sorry! ( Unless your program printed this message ) < 1240500530 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. < 1240500532 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>bf +[>.<] < 1240500546 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :killed? :d < 1240500547 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No loop detection, then? :-P < 1240500550 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( it failed silently there ) < 1240500554 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just output nothing < 1240500556 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>bf ,[.,] /// 12345 < 1240500557 0 :esotericbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12345 < 1240500577 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the child process are killed after a few seconds, or when they use to much memory < 1240500593 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf [><] < 1240500594 0 :esotericbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are a blight upon the landscape. < 1240500611 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Methinks that "No output, sorry!" is a bit verbose < 1240500612 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses the bff4 interpreter < 1240500620 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It's true < 1240500636 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^hmm < 1240500644 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf < 1240500655 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>ul ((SPAM )S:^):^ < 1240500655 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>tyu < 1240500655 0 :esotericbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output, sorry! ( Unless your program printed this message ) < 1240500655 0 :esotericbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are a blight upon the landscape. < 1240500661 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((SPAM )S:^):^ < 1240500661 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM ...too much output! < 1240500666 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1240500668 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1240500670 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1240500674 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGGS < 1240500678 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never realized fungot was another bot < 1240500678 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rabideejit: on the door. < 1240500680 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :confusion there < 1240500689 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought it was like, somebody.. < 1240500695 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1240500727 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1240500734 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or am I more confused? Too much haskell < 1240500738 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soo much confusion < 1240500790 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah right, fungot's ^ul is Underload, not Unlambda. < 1240500791 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: something tapped on the door! and you lot back there—' he turned and waved at the leading troll. there was doing the washing and the summoning of the small dusty bedroom window at the glow at the end of his cane. < 1240500807 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh I see < 1240500834 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a page for fungot? < 1240500835 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rabideejit: ' yes, probably the excitement.' herb was hypnotized by the glassy stare and tried fnord to focus. < 1240500848 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I know of. There's source, though. < 1240500865 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, where at? < 1240500865 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rabideejit: Source at http://zem.fi/~fis/fungot.b98.txt < 1240500866 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: " and then we'd be really inconspicuous." he glanced out of the swimming pool." < 1240500870 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheers < 1240500879 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recognize the language? :-) < 1240500919 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's befunge < 1240500926 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1240500935 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it runs on the net? < 1240500942 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, that too < 1240500956 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha! The joys < 1240500965 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Befunge-98, you see < 1240500993 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, with its extension mechanism (called "fingerprints"), has spawned interpreters that can do things like socket communication < 1240501054 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if it's possible to write neat C to b98 compiler < 1240501095 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think any interpreter supports calling external C functions yet, though AnMaster was working on binding to libffi < 1240501144 0 :FireyFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1240501163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I was yes. But it turned out to be too tricky to properly describe from inside befunge. < 1240501171 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the calling convention < 1240501219 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1240501235 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant C as a language, not fully legal C99 with libc < 1240501238 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BrainFNORD < 1240501240 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yawn < 1240501241 0 :FireyFly!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :FireFly < 1240501252 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, this was with a ffi library < 1240501275 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A safe subset of C (no arbitrary pointers and such) which is contained within a single .c file could probably be done without too much brain damage < 1240501277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, it was a nightmare trying to work out how to describe the layout of structs and unions from inside a befunge program < 1240501279 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1240501306 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, variable argument count isn't even supported by libffi iirc < 1240501313 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't do printf/scanf or such < 1240501392 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1240501418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you meant compiling C to befunge < 1240501426 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure I saw that for some subset before < 1240501439 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1240501452 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe I'm mixing it up with the other way around (and then a non-selfmodifying subset) < 1240501462 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :J^4 had something which was unfinished < 1240501474 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.phlamethrower.co.uk/befunge/c2b.php < 1240501569 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um a friend who isn't very good at computer just asked me what a good antivirus program for windows is. Anyone know? Only one I can think of is AVG but I don't know how good it is these days. < 1240501598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you would know Deewiant ^ < 1240501599 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think AVG is the best free one in terms of detection rate < 1240501607 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know beyond that < 1240501612 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use antivirus programs pretty much ever < 1240501638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, good enough for someone who won't remember "are you sure?" dialogs 5 seconds after they clicked yes without reading the text? < 1240501659 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beats me, people complain about its UI < 1240501688 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use antivirus programs like that < 1240501700 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the person used a trial version of McAfee before he said. < 1240501710 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take every effort to make sure they don't start up automatically and use them only as on-demand scanners < 1240501713 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1240501719 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i am using osx < 1240501728 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1240501737 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what has that got to do with it. < 1240501739 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i feel like a faggot :< < 1240501744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION use Linux
< 1240501749 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now* < 1240501771 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am using osx and linux, i'm trying to code for iphone ;p < 1240501776 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's my new job < 1240501781 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uses* < 1240501789 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, hah < 1240501896 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't get me wrong, osx is quite good piece of software: quite unixy, ergonomic gui, support etc. < 1240501944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, and the windows look like they went into a vacuum cleaner when you minimize them! ;P < 1240501947 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but coding for osx and iphone was mean to be glittering, easy, pretty, funny, chilling etc etc, like every other thing invented by apple < 1240501997 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though to be fair you can actually turn that eye candy off iirc) < 1240502005 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at the moment i'm trying to hack this xcode faggotry, understand one milion new extensions and file formats < 1240502038 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use this smalltalkish objC that went mad < 1240502086 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and terminal is also a bit fucked up < 1240502095 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree, the terminal is crap. < 1240502122 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate IDEs. I like clean simple editors like VIM. Automatically generating good documentation as you go along is more important. In my opinion. Then again, I'm unemployed! :D < 1240502126 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gayphone :< < 1240502210 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there is also good side: macbook composes pretty well with my sports jacket < 1240502211 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1240502278 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any intercal interpreters, or is a compiled language only? < 1240502365 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1240502382 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's time to work on my SADOL3 compiler < 1240502393 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the fun part: i'll bootstrap it < 1240502507 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1240502588 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really should go and study linear algebra instead of writing silly code :( < 1240502590 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Byebye < 1240502642 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya < 1240502653 0 :rabideejit!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1240502687 0 :esotericbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1240502959 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1240504374 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1240504438 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c349BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1240505094 0 :nooga_!n=jacekmal@188.33.65.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1240505516 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the difference between "upgrade" and "update"... Or are they true synonyms. They seem to mean the same as far as I can tell. < 1240505532 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are at least used the same way very often. < 1240505683 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1240506009 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Upgrade seems to be used more for softwares < 1240506016 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Updates more for messages < 1240506454 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8=o ~ 0; 0 < 1240506460 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1240506529 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid sadol code: a giant cock spits on a face with aureole < 1240506912 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JESUS WEPT < 1240506985 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not my fault < 1240506989 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, there? < 1240506995 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aye < 1240506996 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :efunge now only supports Erlang R13B-0 (released two days ago). It may or may not work on older versions, but if you find a bug with that I recommend you to upgrade. < 1240507006 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just FYI < 1240507016 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does cfunge only support GCC 4.4.0, too? ;-P < 1240507083 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :efunge = befunge implementation in erlang? < 1240507094 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1240507105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, no cfunge works on GCC 3.4, 4.1.2, 4.2.1 (llvm-gcc), 4.3.2 and 4.3.3, ICC 10.1, recent svn versions of clang and Open64 (forgot version) at least. < 1240507113 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have older GCC versions around to test with. < 1240507116 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga_, yes a sec for link < 1240507130 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/efunge/ < 1240507132 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You haven't upgraded to 4.4.0? < 1240507136 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also see http://rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/cfunge/ < 1240507142 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I wasn't aware of that it was released < 1240507143 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has new optamazations < 1240507161 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, also it isn't even stable on Arch yet! < 1240507173 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Neither is Erlang R13B-0... < 1240507211 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, package flagged out of date. And it is in testing on gentoo (and for erlang I track the ~arch version on gentoo) < 1240507247 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where can one set such a flag for non-AUR stuff? < 1240507257 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Upgrade seems to be used more for softwares Updates more for messages <-- hardware upgrade/update? Virus definition upgrade/update? < 1240507281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, err http://www.archlinux.org/, package search < 1240507288 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :select the package, find link < 1240507305 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there's a link there too, haven't noticed < 1240507307 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, but searching for erlang gives two red results meaning it is already flagged < 1240507312 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pacman doesn't show the flag, though < 1240507320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, mhm < 1240507328 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: And gcc is flagged out of date as well. :-P < 1240507336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1240507399 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I have no idea if efunge works on R12B-* any longer. I'm pretty sure the old version of dialyzer will barf on the last few revisions of efunge though. Not sure if compiler will handle it. < 1240507464 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been on the tip of sneezing for like ten minutes. Now my nose is running and I still can't effing sneeze >_< < 1240507622 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The protoize and unprotoize utilities have been obsoleted and will be removed in GCC 4.5" < 1240507624 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1240507627 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais won't like that! < 1240508350 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lah < 1240508355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga_, ? < 1240508366 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothin' < 1240508383 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga_, you seemed interested in efunge before. :) < 1240508505 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@dialup-4.88.166.75.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1240508635 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1240508830 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : What's with all the Traumeel? < 1240508837 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After reading the man page on protoize, I haven't a fekking clue what it does :P < 1240508849 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably it deduces flat earth -> homeopathy ;D < 1240508875 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1240508959 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... I hope they serve beer in hell ... < 1240508971 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't bet on it being the right temperature, though < 1240509010 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ellipses by me) < 1240509581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: k&r prototypes < 1240509582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:42 okloduk: and i remember being fascinated by the melody it plays when i was a kid < 1240509583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:42 okloduk: because the times are first 4/4, then an extra beat, then 3/4 till the end < 1240509584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:43 okloduk: now i suddenly realized this has probably just been a failure in hearing what it's supposed to be < 1240509587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1240509640 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloduk: don't let anybody take away your childhood dreams! < 1240509702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also A Practical Guide to Racism is a 2007 humorous satirical book written by Sam Means under the pseudonym C.H. Dalton. The book is similar to the Douglas Sutherland book The English Gentleman, in that it is constructed as a "guide" to the behaviors of various social groups (in this case ethnic races) built entirely out of stereotypes associated with said groups. < 1240509772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloduk: http://www.vjn.fi/oklopol/music/anicecreamymelody.mid ← is this the non-true one < 1240509777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz its awesome < 1240509828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:07 andrewSC: how would i get access to the values typed before a word? < 1240509828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:07 andrewSC: ie < 1240509829 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:07 andrewSC: 1 2 3 4 5 reverse < 1240509831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:08 andrewSC: the word reverse would then put the numbers in reverse order on the stack. < 1240509833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:08 andrewSC: i'm not sure how to get access to them.. < 1240509835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— #forth < 1240509884 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what i linked there was the one where i failed to type it down for fizzie. < 1240509897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloduk: is it the 4/4 and 3/4 weird thing < 1240509900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it the real version < 1240509930 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the differences in timing do not really show, well, they would show in the backing instruments ofc. < 1240509939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Organisasjonsnummer: 979 829 299 < 1240509939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Navn/foretaksnavn: ';UPDATE TAXRATE SET RATE = 0 WHERE < 1240509940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NAME = 'EDVIN SYSE' < 1240509942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://w2.brreg.no/enhet/sok/detalj.jsp?orgnr=979829299 < 1240509965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from 1998 too < 1240510226 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: OHHHH, K&R prototypes. That explains more. < 1240510257 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :K&R prototypes: aren't they wonderful? < 1240510264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1240510264 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No :P < 1240510268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey. < 1240510275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're prettier than new-style C. < 1240510278 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that's some broken second field < 1240510307 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's supposed to be the company name < 1240510355 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did he actually try an SQL injection on the norwegian company register? :D < 1240510409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's called a joke < 1240510411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heard of them? < 1240510416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he registered it as a joke. < 1240510421 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1240510437 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes that makes sense :D < 1240510678 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was too hung up in you pasting a link in norwegian to notice what the point was :D < 1240510753 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1240510935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ubuntu 9.04 can be made to look really pretty < 1240511016 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can you put it on a dead badger? < 1240511021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1240511027 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_and_ make it look pretty, at the same time? < 1240511030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as it has at least 30% of the body as brain < 1240511061 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, not even humans have that much brain < 1240511085 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got to give credit to ISO: they managed to make C better without making anything worse. < 1240511094 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that the point? < 1240511101 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unlike when they standardised C++. "Throw it all in there! ALL OF IT!") < 1240511153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish we could hurry up and disband ISO < 1240511211 0 :nooga_!n=jacekmal@dqh248.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1240511396 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.vjn.fi/oklopol/music/anicecreamymelody.mid <<< for the wrong melody. <<< i read that as "a nice creamy melody" < 1240511440 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5ntent56na3, s533y, < 1240511444 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before seeing the explanation < 1240511459 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT? < 1240511466 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPEAK CLERLY! < 1240511499 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes okloduk probably has the same numlock system as his laptop
< 1240511500 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga_, not sure if you saw: nooga_, you seemed interested in efunge before. :) < 1240511504 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before you lost connection < 1240511515 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1240511518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga_, tried it yet? < 1240511531 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :efunge? < 1240511533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1240511548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're obsessed AnMaster < 1240511548 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ge, i'm at work you know? < 1240511556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one mention and bam, on his trail < 1240511561 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga_, I wasn't aware of that. Sorry < 1240511571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :errrrr < 1240511581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was talking about how he disliked developing iphone stuff at work < 1240511583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :around the same time < 1240511583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1240511629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't gcc's -pedantic instead -Wpedantic < 1240511759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION messes with gnome appearance settings. http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6913/screenshotrdn.png
< 1240512709 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1240512814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.silentpcreview.com/prolima-megahelams Oh my god YES. < 1240513027 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yuck < 1240513036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga_: No. Not yuck. < 1240513037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES. < 1240513042 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will not take screenshots < 1240513049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1240513053 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on this goddamn machine by apple < 1240513063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1240513107 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gues that UI was created to be soothing, and yes, it's necessary because dev under osx makes me boil < 1240513121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pebkac < 1240513146 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1240513383 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, i'm a mac. and i'm a pc < 1240514075 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woot! I realized the obvious workaround to #2339 and CCBI 2 passes Mycology again! < 1240514083 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woot, woot < 1240514243 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'course, it took a few hours of hacking to implement the workaround < 1240514243 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still! < 1240514243 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackology < 1240514293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: what was the workaround? < 1240514296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also SWEET ASS ON A STICK <3 < 1240514301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :git repo? < 1240514309 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mercurial, and not yet committed < 1240514316 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2339 - last comment is the workaround < 1240514322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ew hg. < 1240514324 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obvious, of course, in hindsight :-P < 1240514358 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-15-33.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1240514371 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'll convert it to git when I get this branch merged with the CCBI-1 changes of the past 8 months < 1240514377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1240514384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1240514389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's 2, why are you using substantial code from 1 < 1240514391 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't dared do it as long as I have two different branches around < 1240514421 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, er, because I have an essentially complete Befunge-98 implementation with a billion fingerprints? < 1240514432 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course I want to reuse as much as possible :-P < 1240514440 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fricking 9k lines of code < 1240514441 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or so < 1240514441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: So why are you making a 2? < 1240514450 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Cleanup < 1240514460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Cleanup isn't exactly a major version bump. < 1240514470 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in itself, no < 1240514479 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the cleanup makes cool things possible < 1240514487 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like MVRS, trefunge, unefunge, etc < 1240514540 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, workarounds for 4 DMDFE bugs in 47 lines of code < 1240514557 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta love D < 1240514682 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are fingerprints? < 1240514732 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The extension mechanism of Funge-98 < 1240514750 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it work? < 1240514768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga_: they define the instructions A-Z < 1240514776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"OOF"(...) uses FOO < 1240514780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it < 1240514782 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially, you give a 32-bit value to ( and it overrides A-Z < 1240514783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1240514785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it 0"OOF" < 1240514788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1240514794 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be "OOF"3 < 1240515033 0 :neldoret1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1240515143 0 :neldoreth!n=user@unixboard/users/neldoreth JOIN :#esoteric < 1240515387 0 :neldoreth!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1240515401 0 :neldoreth!n=user@unixboard/users/neldoreth JOIN :#esoteric < 1240515414 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it < 1240515550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor does your mom < 1240515725 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Incidentally, I saw that bp09 4k intro you were advertizing today on a big screen (the DOT people were showing bp09 prods in the T1 lecture hall 18-20), and it was still neat; but also neat was the second-best one, which was actually a 1k intro. Since, you know, 4096 bytes is so much, it's hard to figure out use for all those bytes. < 1240515737 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I saw the 1k one as well. < 1240515752 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TBH I think it should have won, 1k is insane. :-P < 1240515778 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who are the DOT people? < 1240515836 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: dot.tky.fi. < 1240515845 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1240515863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1240515871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You guys have demosceners demonstrating shit at your university? < 1240515881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fucking hell, Finland. Stop being so awesome. < 1240515884 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMaNxyHhH6A is the 1k one apparently. < 1240515899 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Just a student union or whatever it's called. < 1240515909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care < 1240515925 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not especially awesome, IMO. Likely to happen at any university. < 1240515930 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, some sort of sub-organization of the student union. And it's not especially large or active one. < 1240515935 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome, sure, but not special. < 1240515955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow sierpinski <3 < 1240515958 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Demosceney stuff is rather more popular than the average here in Finland, though. < 1240515962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if they used the & trick < 1240515973 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I suppose it is. < 1240515991 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG < 1240515994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIERPINSKI SQUARE < 1240516020 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sierpinski circle!!! < 1240516029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: I tried to make that once < 1240516033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I realised it wasn't meaningful. < 1240516209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GeoCities will close later this year. < 1240516209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is GeoCities not accepting new customers? < 1240516211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have decided to discontinue the process of allowing new customers to sign up for GeoCities accounts as we focus on helping our customers explore and build new relationships online in other ways. We will be closing GeoCities later this year. < 1240516455 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :f-script is quite nice eso lang < 1240516463 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :together with objective c < 1240516470 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cocoa is eso api < 1240516501 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you on crack? < 1240516506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :F-Script = Smalltalk in almost all ways. < 1240516517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objective-C = C, except [...] denotes Smalltalk land. Not hard. < 1240516525 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf are things like NSArrayWithObjectsAndKeys < 1240516527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cocoa = umm, have you ever used gtk? Qt? Windows APIs? < 1240516541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga_: according to google, that class does not exist. < 1240516553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're going to dis, try and have the facts on your side. < 1240516558 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[PleaseDoMeAFavorAndDiePlease] < 1240516569 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :riddiculous < 1240516580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, you're an idiot. < 1240516849 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1240517627 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misparsed that oklomusic URL as "a nice creamy melody"; or I guess that was intentional? < 1240517703 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, took a bit of pondering just now to realize "icecreamy" < 1240517849 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANbDyUY0ho4 ← I want a monitor this high DPI. < 1240517975 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes yes, it is intentional. < 1240517998 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was gonna put it as anicemelody first, but then i realized no one would get it. < 1240518011 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because anice... is the default parsing anyway < 1240518020 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1240518738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:31 andrewSC: i spent alot of time learning forth last night and i think doing this recursively with a variable would be the easiest thing todo < 1240518761 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol what an idiot < 1240520367 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1240520381 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-168.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1240520559 0 :nooga!n=jacekmal@dot139.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1240520569 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh, C:\RECYCLER is a virus? < 1240520572 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1240520583 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hopes AVG can remove it
< 1240520630 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if he should run the full scan more often than every 14 days...
< 1240520683 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: context? < 1240520725 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started a full scan with AVG free, and it has found 4 trojan files so far < 1240520753 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 of them in the C:\RECYCLER directory, which a bit of googling hints is a virus thing < 1240520806 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moreover i think i recognize those files as something AVG removed before, from the old version i had of simon tatham's puzzles < 1240520835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no < 1240520837 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there was a trojan in a file in my documents folder which i don't recall putting there at all < 1240520840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c:\recycler is legit; things inside may not be < 1240520846 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1240520854 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's where all the files you delete are stored < 1240520863 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :viruses often hide there because people don't think of looking there < 1240520868 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe recycler just kept it then < 1240520871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1240520871 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because Windows doesn't display it as part of C by default < 1240520875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c:\recycler is not the recycle bin < 1240520877 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1240520883 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: oh, that's c:\deleted < 1240520887 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's c:\recycler, then? < 1240520887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's some sort of fucked up alternate recycle bin < 1240520892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't used < 1240520895 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sighs at Windows
< 1240520901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1240520903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ubuntu 9.04 is nice. < 1240520908 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1240520929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1240520933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6913/screenshotrdn.png ← nice. < 1240520942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1240520942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have said this before < 1240520943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't i < 1240520947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks
< 1240520947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1240520947 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://support.microsoft.com/kb/171694 - recycler vs. recycle bin < 1240520978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That theme is "new wave dark menus" controls, but with the window colour as #D9D4CC, and the window border as Dust) < 1240520982 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1240520989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, dust + new wave dark menus + #D9D4CC window. < 1240520993 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was c:\trash or something? < 1240520999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trash is os x < 1240521002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1240521004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mac os * < 1240521007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since 1984 < 1240521048 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, meh, I only used translated windows. And it translates randomly. c:\Program Files -> c:\Program c:\Document and Settings is not translated. < 1240521051 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1240521079 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ~/.local/share/Trash/files on here < 1240521088 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains why my .local is so big, at least < 1240521094 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever seen a program that would be 100% translated :-P < 1240521152 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, actually, most KDE apps tends to have complete translations to Swedish < 1240521157 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and high quality such < 1240521178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I turned compiz on by mistake and can't get it off. < 1240521183 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BSD /bin/true is completely translated < 1240521184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, it doesn't work in this vm < 1240521192 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: System | Appearance | Desktop Effects, set to "none" < 1240521201 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* System | Preferences | Appeareance < 1240521209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, because seeing as my system is broken, I can get a gnome session up < 1240521213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly. < 1240521215 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1240521223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a very nice text console :-) < 1240521224 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boot into gnome safe mode? < 1240521226 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and change it there? < 1240521232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tries to start compiz. < 1240521237 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, even failsafe gnome/ < 1240521238 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"boot gnome"... "safe mode" < 1240521239 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1240521240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1240521247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when was gnome an OS? < 1240521249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: failsafe gnome < 1240521256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and specifically since when was it windows. < 1240521284 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, this is a lot easier when you do your config by editing text files. ;P < 1240521289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome does that too. < 1240521297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except with a sane ui on top. < 1240521445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace < 1240521457 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, that's something rather different < 1240521467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1240521469 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not "don't load compiz", but "tell metacity to boot off compiz and use itself instead" < 1240521473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1240521477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I use that to fix it < 1240521481 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it work? < 1240521484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, I'm rebooting < 1240521577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The VM crashed. < 1240521678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr < 1240521690 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crashing VMs could be a nice geek band name < 1240521697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1240521827 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, Main Page, please < 1240521846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1240521846 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/someone/ has to create a notable band called Main Page sometime, Wikipedia have been waiting for it for years < 1240521853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, it should be a book. < 1240521856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about wikipedia < 1240521864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it has an excuse < 1240521876 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/battletoads.jpg < 1240521881 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, i fixed my keyboard by stepping on it :D < 1240521891 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, interesting < 1240521895 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the founder of MySQL just forked it < 1240521913 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can have MySQL vs. MySQL now, could be fun < 1240521942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol monty < 1240521957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sun Microsystems announced three new MySQL products: MySQL 5.4, MySQL Cluster 7.0 and MySQL Enterprise Partner Program for 'Remote DBA' service providers." < 1240521958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1240521959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how Oracle < 1240521960 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how many other people have had to fork their own program
< 1240521985 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Branching ~= forking. < 1240521990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well this is irritating < 1240521997 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: is that a Lua ~=, or a Perl ~=? < 1240522006 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, those are both =~ < 1240522008 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a ≈ < 1240522010 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's lua's < 1240522012 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not equal < 1240522017 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Lua's is ~= < 1240522020 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never seem to remember it < 1240522133 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MATLAB's "not equal" is ~=. < 1240522143 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And MATLAB's unary logical not is ~, too. < 1240522154 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how logical. < 1240522196 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :≠ < 1240522199 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They use ! for shell-escapades. < 1240522201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can i just nuke compiz from the face of the ubuntu < 1240522208 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡ < 1240522230 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: sudo apt-get remove compiz-gnome should work < 1240522243 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ¡x could be equal to !!x. < 1240522245 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but removing something that's in Ubuntu by default causes it to no longer update your set of packages to contain the default set < 1240522253 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for obvious reasons < 1240522271 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has an evil thought
< 1240522277 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, my download speed seems to be basically zero for trying to install updates < 1240522284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: please don't < 1240522285 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quylthulg should use !x¡ for negation < 1240522286 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do it at the University tomorrow instead, and meanwhile, wonder if I'm being throttled < 1240522287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: a friend's too < 1240522295 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no reason why there cannot be an esolang named "Main Page", isn't it? >:) < 1240522296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he started it this morning; it'll finish in an hour and a half < 1240522297 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1240522301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: high demand < 1240522305 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, of course < 1240522314 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jaunty release was released today, wasn't it? < 1240522317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes... < 1240522319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1240522323 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: too late < 1240522332 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whaat, Chris Pressey is writing Haskell now < 1240522333 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION system | administration | software sources
< 1240522346 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do the ping-all-the-mirrors test there < 1240522356 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and change back to the main mirror in a couple of days < 1240522357 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since when did this happen < 1240522367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Years. < 1240522375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's the awesome. < 1240522386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Since 2007-06-17, apparently. < 1240522389 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is there < 1240522396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w/ http://catseye.tc/projects/hev/ < 1240522411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- hev.hs < 1240522411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- Reference Interpreter for the Hev Programming Language < 1240522412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- Begun November 2005, fleshed out October 2006, polished off June 2007 < 1240522412 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2003-11/1332.html sez he's liked it since at least 2003. < 1240522414 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: since 2005 at least. < 1240522418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1240522429 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://erlang.org/pipermail/erlang-questions/2001-February/002738.html 2001. < 1240522501 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok, now I haev gnome without metacity. < 1240522511 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, what? < 1240522517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no WM < 1240522520 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, interesting < 1240522525 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you tell it's Gnome, tehn? < 1240522526 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then? < 1240522543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: erm... the panels? < 1240522551 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I thought the window manager managed those < 1240522564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome-panel < 1240522696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay I fixed it < 1240522704 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1240522854 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take it back < 1240522856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still doesn't work < 1240522875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd ask #ubuntu, but, uh, you can figure out why not. < 1240522903 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... an anon asks on Groklaw how to leave a comment "there" < 1240522920 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misread it as "here", and am about to leave them a description of how to comment on Groklaw when I realise the irony of what I'm doing < 1240522956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1240523016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sooo < 1240523022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I make it do metacity... < 1240523048 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you use your install just to turn visual effects off? < 1240523054 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that switches the WM to metacity at the same time < 1240523095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did. < 1240523097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It ignored me. < 1240523103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says None. < 1240523123 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rename all your dotfiles? < 1240523129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, maybe fixed < 1240523130 0 :tombom_!n=tombomp@86.9.230.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1240523158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1240523159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed < 1240523169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :selected Normal effects, pressed enter to hit the invisible "DON'T KEEP DAMMIT:" < 1240523175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and voila, now logging out and logging about in retains metacitiness < 1240523198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /someone/ has to create a notable band called Main Page sometime, Wikipedia have been waiting for it for years <-- what about Main Page (band) < 1240523203 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure that is what will be done < 1240523209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: where will the disambiguation be put < 1240523213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the top of the main page? < 1240523214 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the don't keep timeout works both ways < 1240523234 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they should move the Main Page to Portal:Main now, in order to avoid such problems in future < 1240523245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and break every bookmark ever < 1240523249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet idea < 1240523255 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there'd still be a redirect < 1240523282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so where does the disambig go < 1240523283 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1240523297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better idea would be to move it to WP:Main Page < 1240523301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1240523302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's wrong < 1240523312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Portal:Main as ais523 said < 1240523317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it has to be moved, Portal:Main is correct. < 1240523351 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why would it break bookmarks < 1240523355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who bookmarks the main page < 1240523365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than http://en.wikipedia.org < 1240523367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or such < 1240523370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1240523372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you go to wikipedia < 1240523376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the url is /wiki/Main_Page < 1240523377 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? < 1240523378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you hit bookmark < 1240523381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get that as your bookmark < 1240523390 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you hit bookmark you strip that bit off < 1240523396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh huh. < 1240523398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure you do. < 1240523399 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Main Page itself has to be the disamb page < 1240523403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody else does though. < 1240523403 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait I'm out of touch with average person again I think < 1240523404 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh! < 1240523411 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you would need too many clicks to get to the portal < 1240523414 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is the real world so stupid. < 1240523416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's better to have /wiki/Main_Page. < 1240523422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: one less redirect. < 1240523425 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One less HTTP request. < 1240523428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is, after all, the kind of thing you care about.) < 1240523445 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually I don't have the wikipedia page book marked < 1240523448 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, there was a consensus to rename it to the null string if technically possible; unfortunately, it wasn't < 1240523452 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use wikipedia in my search bar < 1240523464 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my Wikipedia bookmark is Special:Watchlist < 1240523466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's still articlespace < 1240523468 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1240523481 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1240523491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google as default, then wikipedia, wikit and finally esolang wiki < 1240523525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway not a book or a band named main page < 1240523527 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly both < 1240523539 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even more reason for a disambig page < 1240523543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a book with accompanying soundtrack < 1240523548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :performed by a band of the same name < 1240523553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the soundtrack is called Main Page < 1240523558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book is turned into a film < 1240523560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :called Main Page < 1240523565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a different soundtrack < 1240523567 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't some admins get together and start an electronic band named main page < 1240523569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is published as Main Page, by Main Page < 1240523571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a different band < 1240523573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a different album < 1240523578 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: non-notable < 1240523579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with all live performances being tele conferences! < 1240523584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1240523585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried that once < 1240523590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lag kills it < 1240523599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with specialized programs w/ algorithms to combat lag < 1240523616 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you tried to perform music across a teleconference? < 1240523622 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1240523644 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Your last comment was 45 seconds ago. This site requires at least 45 seconds between comments < 1240523650 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rounding error, I suspect < 1240523655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i recommend that if this Main Page band comes into fruition, it is a noise band < 1240523658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can't notice < 1240523658 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it might be easier to get an established artist to call his last album "Main Page" < 1240523659 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1240523671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could be the millionth collaborator of merzbow! < 1240523687 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, noise band... < 1240523693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's the name of the sell-your-soul restricted extras package? < 1240523694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: noise music < 1240523705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's music that is just noise. < 1240523707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what do you mean with "merzbow" < 1240523718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :merzbow is a crazy ass japanese noise musician < 1240523721 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1240523722 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ubuntu-restricted-extras, IIRC < 1240523725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's also hugely vegan < 1240523736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, you can kill animals with his music < 1240523740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that didn't really work out < 1240523743 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if the restricted repo is available by default, it's trivial to turn it on via software sources if it isn't < 1240523758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is by default indeed < 1240523760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no such package < 1240523773 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :restricted < 1240523774 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1240523776 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ubuntu-restricted-extras - Commonly used restricted packages < 1240523779 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :patent or whatever < 1240523780 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1240523786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: mp3 and what not < 1240523789 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1240523803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: here's what i get for a synaptic search for restricted < 1240523806 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recommends: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, ttf-mscorefonts-installer, adobe-flashplugin | flashplugin-nonfree, unrar, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse, gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, libavcodec-unstripped-52, gstreamer0.10-pitfdll < 1240523808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux-restricted-modules-BLAH < 1240523809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ed < 1240523811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gdm-guest-session < 1240523811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cron < 1240523813 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never had those issues since I began using source based distros. ;P < 1240523814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nano < 1240523816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fin~ < 1240523819 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you mustn't have the repo with it in, then < 1240523823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure I do < 1240523826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have all enabled < 1240523841 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why would nano be restricted... < 1240523848 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or cron or ed... < 1240523855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1240523855 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: they aren't < 1240523858 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you think they are? < 1240523865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was ehird's list then < 1240523881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:56 ehird: ais523: here's what i get for a synaptic search for restricted < 1240523882 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: things that turned up in a search for "restricted" in package descriptions < 1240523886 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1240523894 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what does apt-cache search ubuntu-restricted show for you? < 1240523909 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you do an apt-get update (or the GUI equivalent) after enabling the restricted repo? < 1240523918 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it ended up above " Recommends:[...]" meaning I missed it < 1240523926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it shows up, huh < 1240523928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i didn't have to eable it < 1240523929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since text jumped so much while I was reading it < 1240523932 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I've got it < 1240523939 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have /synaptic/ set to only show open source stuff < 1240523943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1240523946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I specially looked at synaptic < 1240524033 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eable should so have been a word < 1240524071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :33 minutes to go < 1240524074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wjat < 1240524077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a low traffic archive < 1240524077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1240524082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :33 minutes to go for what < 1240524090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1240524100 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1240524101 0 :tombom_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :tombom < 1240524105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't say... < 1240524116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have we been talking about < 1240524119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ubuntu-restricted-extras < 1240524121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so take a guess < 1240524142 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, You mean searching in synaptic takes 33 minutes < 1240524147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1240524155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well considering number of packages in debian ubuntu I'm not surprised :P < 1240524162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only you made any sense < 1240524189 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well I guess if I knew what " what's a low traffic archive" meant, what you said would have made some sense. < 1240524218 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you mean then unpacking the archive (*.deb) after downloading it has an ETA of 33 minutes... < 1240524226 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that would be silly < 1240524244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so no you didn't make any sense. < 1240524266 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in soviet russia, sense doesn't make any you < 1240524284 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you for your non-constructive comment. < 1240524295 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an apt search is only a few seconds < 1240524297 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in soviet russia, russia soviet in. < 1240524301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grumpy AnMaster is grumpy < 1240524303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP PUNNING OERJAN < 1240524307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU'RE UNCONSTRUCTIVE < 1240524313 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so what did you mean then. < 1240524314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1240524346 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, maybe you can explain it < 1240524351 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*facepalm* < 1240524380 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1240524386 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU TWO GO SIT IN A CORNER. NO, _NOT_ THE SAME ONE. < 1240524387 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, good imitation of ehird < 1240524398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1240524399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1240524401 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: time to download the packages from the repositories, obviously < 1240524404 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1240524405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is amusing but pathetic < 1240524407 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1240524413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AH WELL < 1240524413 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be even slower in a source distro if it was similarly loaded < 1240524417 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because binaries are normally smaller < 1240524419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :repository != archive in my vocabulary. < 1240524427 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also doesn't ubuntu have *mirrors*? < 1240524459 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all smoke and mirrors < 1240524462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :archive.ubuntu.com < 1240524462 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs away
< 1240524475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thank you for your non-constructive comment. < 1240524484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, usually gentoo mirrors are fast. There are 3 or 4 in Sweden for example. < 1240524486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick AnMestar < 1240524487 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, all of them are likely to be loaded today < 1240524489 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're being a bit abconstructive imo < 1240524491 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome. < 1240524493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, why is that < 1240524499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: BECAUSE UBUNTU MADE A NEW RELEASE < 1240524501 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1240524502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO LOADS OF PEOPLE ARE TRYING IT < 1240524504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1240524505 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would I know < 1240524507 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloduk: i am merely trying to defuse the situation < 1240524509 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: because 9.04 was released today < 1240524511 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't read ubuntu news < 1240524515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: because we've been talking about it < 1240524519 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Binaries normally smaller? Not in my experience. < 1240524523 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not when I was reading < 1240524524 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu releases are generally big enough to make mainstream technology news < 1240524528 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only in lowlevel languages. < 1240524530 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: me too. < 1240524538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, depends. cfunge binary is smaller than cfunge source at least. < 1240524539 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he's too hardcore for such mainstream things. < 1240524541 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1240524541 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: well, most actual binaries are written in C or C++ < 1240524554 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the rest is scripting languages, which are sent as source in both binary and source distros < 1240524565 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1240524568 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not with debug info < 1240524574 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, yes, I suppose in the average case it is so. < 1240524578 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the binary is larger < 1240524585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a stripped cfunge binary is smaller than the source < 1240524589 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, pedantically speaking, most binaries are written in machine code < 1240524614 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though some code is compiled twice (#define + include a private header, change defines and include it again) < 1240524640 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, #ubuntu has FloodBot1, FlootBot2, and FloodBot 3 < 1240524643 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*FloodBot3 < 1240524645 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only 2 is opped < 1240524647 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what do they do < 1240524648 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why they have three of them < 1240524661 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: manage the ban list, it seems < 1240524667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, se.archive.ubuntu.com is fast < 1240524668 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With full stripping ccbi is over twice the size of its source < 1240524668 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably according to certain rules < 1240524670 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so not flood the channel then < 1240524680 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, As usual Sweden wins ;P < 1240524685 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1240524687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: .fi has faster net < 1240524688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ < 1240524707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the ubuntu fi mirror or in general? < 1240524710 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also ubottu, but it just spouts back canned advice on request < 1240524726 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway gentoo mirrors are not very often loaded since rolling releases make upgrades rather non-dramatic :D < 1240524736 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if I take into account the static size for a D executable, CCBI's source is clearly smaller than the binary. < 1240524746 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, with or without debug inf? < 1240524748 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :info* < 1240524754 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Fully stripped and optimized. < 1240524763 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, sec *checks for cfunge* < 1240524775 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For C, I don't doubt that it's the other way around. < 1240524789 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since C is both more verbose and smaller. :-P < 1240524803 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange, someone just joined #ubuntu, then said an email address < 1240524805 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing else < 1240524833 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, most of my Haskell stuff by far exceeds the size of its source. < 1240524833 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, yes it is. a 64-bit cfunge, with t support, tracing and 64-bit cells is 118 k stripped < 1240524844 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, cfunge *.c and *.h is much larger < 1240524847 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1240524853 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about just *.c? < 1240524869 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :573K for *.c and *.h < 1240524871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh sec < 1240524888 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :355K < 1240524892 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for just the *.c < 1240524895 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CCBI 1.0.20 is 193K < 1240524909 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8015623.stm < 1240524925 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :microsoft sold less last quater than the same time the year before < 1240524927 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.0 is currently 215K but most of the fingerprints are the exact same as in 1.0, they should be a fair bit smaller when redone < 1240524931 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, a 32-bit cfunge without t and with 32-bit cells is 83 K stripped < 1240524940 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no tracing compiled in either < 1240524945 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and turned off exact bounds < 1240524947 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.0.20 binary is 588K stripped < 1240524952 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the other one had exact bounds) < 1240524960 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A 64-bit binary, that is. < 1240524961 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I'm using -Os here of course < 1240524973 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, wonder if ldc has something like that < 1240524985 0 :okloduk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if any big company has ever just decided to stop at the top. < 1240524994 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, of course, am using the standard binary and not one to support my conclusions in any particular way :-P < 1240525005 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, with -O3 and 64-bit build (32-bit cells) a stripped cfunge is 224K < 1240525010 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is still smaller than source < 1240525015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes you are clearly wrong < 1240525021 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1240525030 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When was I wrong? :-P < 1240525032 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, " For C, I don't doubt that it's the other way around." < 1240525036 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1240525042 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :missed the "don't" < 1240525043 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's exactly right... < 1240525043 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1240525052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misread it < 1240525056 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LDC doesn't seem to have -Os. < 1240525065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, anyway D isn't exactly low level < 1240525086 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the lowest-level language I typically use < 1240525087 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I assume your build is not statically linked < 1240525112 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't support linking cfunge statically. It might work. I haven't tested it for a long time. < 1240525115 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's dynamically linked to stuff like ncurses, c, pthreads < 1240525133 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why wouldn't it work? < 1240525155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cfunge is linked to libncurses.so.5, libm.so.6, librt.so.1, libc.so.6, libdl.so.2 (???), libpthread.so.0 here says ldd < 1240525162 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why on earth libdl... < 1240525165 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't make any sense < 1240525211 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have libgcc_s.so in addition to those < 1240525221 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and no librt < 1240525242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well libgcc_s.so makes sense since you probably use exceptions and what not < 1240525247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it handles such stuff too < 1240525248 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe AnMaster didn't use gcc < 1240525253 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's statically linked there < 1240525259 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :libgcc also handles things like multiplication < 1240525260 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I used gcc. But libgcc_s.so isn't always needed. < 1240525262 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of it's very low-level < 1240525266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, err it doesn't < 1240525273 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it does < 1240525273 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything which can't be expressed in a few machine instructions goes there < 1240525285 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, sure but all operations can be expressed with that here I suspect < 1240525300 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you're doing a sort of multiplication that the processor doesn't have an instruction for, it uses a wrapper in libgcc to convert the argument lengths, etc < 1240525305 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc-bf compiles libgcc three times < 1240525314 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and links three copies of it into the final library < 1240525322 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm pretty sure gcc very often inlines it. < 1240525330 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I don't do 128-bit multiplication < 1240525363 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if I compiled with 64-bit cells and -m32 I might see it < 1240525365 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yes, this GCC talk reminds me that ais523 was supposed to be unhappy about something in the 4.4.0 changelog < 1240525371 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not then either < 1240525371 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember what it was < 1240525379 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes that < 1240525379 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, was I? < 1240525387 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody said it, you probably weren't here then < 1240525389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, gcc 4.5 will drop protoize/unprotoize < 1240525397 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I don't care about that < 1240525402 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are marked obsolete in 4.4 < 1240525406 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, huh... < 1240525407 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was using the version of unprotoize that was distributed with bcc < 1240525408 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1240525411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1240525422 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need protoize to compile C-INTERCAL with gcc < 1240525432 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need unprotoize to compile it with a K&R compiler, though < 1240525433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1240525433 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.out is obsoleted too, sadly < 1240525443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, why would you care about that < 1240525446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one use it nowdays < 1240525459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone have used ELF for *ages* < 1240525461 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm always a bit sad to see old stuff disappear < 1240525473 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My kernel has support for a.out you know! < 1240525476 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, if you go maintain it I'm sure they will keep it < 1240525486 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I heard plans to drop a.out in linux kernel soon too < 1240525489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just FYI < 1240525489 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not so sure they will :-P < 1240525518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect ais523 won't like that though < 1240525536 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I don't want it dropped in kernel < 1240525540 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, why not < 1240525541 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm happy for it to be a separate module < 1240525549 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind it dropped in compilers < 1240525549 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1240525555 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would they have to maintain what nobody use. < 1240525561 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because some old compilers only output in a.out, and I have to be able to test them somehow < 1240525570 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly you can run a 2.4 kernel in a VM if you need it < 1240525588 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use an a.out to ELF converter < 1240525595 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write one if one doesn't exist < 1240525596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's fine, if those exist < 1240525598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, is that possible... < 1240525605 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why not < 1240525623 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well dynamic libraries are handled very differently for example < 1240525630 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders why apt-cache search a.out returns 1358 packages
< 1240525877 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a regexp search by default, and matches everything like lAyOUT? < 1240525928 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and especially AbOUT. < 1240526014 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too bad that apt-cache search doesn't eat the ~X-style special-patterns used by aptitude's search. < 1240526139 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~X-style < 1240526370 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aptitude has things like "~sfoo" for packages in section foo. < 1240526947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8015623.stm < 1240526949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :die die die! < 1240526998 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm annoyed, I came here for the GIMP documentation, but I wanted to download it via the repos and that's unlikely to work atm < 1240527039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: use se.archive.ubuntu.com < 1240527041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fast < 1240527051 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I've started on porting DNA Maze, I spent part of this morning writing a compiler from Windows resource script to sanity < 1240527059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^ < 1240527063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what graphics lib? < 1240527065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SDL? < 1240527081 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't decided yet, it'll either be SDL or Allegro < 1240527092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please SDL, allegro is a bitch on OS X :-P < 1240527098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1240527100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got it working < 1240527102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was a bit of a pain < 1240527111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if allegro has a lot nicer api use that I suppose < 1240527120 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know allegro, and I don't know SDL < 1240527128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then use allegro, although I hear SDL is simple < 1240527133 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SDL's even lower-level than allegro, I think < 1240527159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want high level try pygame < 1240527180 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want high-level < 1240527189 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that I'm porting, what I really want is something with similar capabilities to GDI < 1240527196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that would be SDL < 1240527204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure SDL is exactly at GDI's level < 1240527206 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Allegro can do that fine, to do it on SDL I might have to write a bit of graphics lib, but there shouldn't be much of a problem < 1240527219 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought SDI just gave you a bitmap to draw on using your own code < 1240527224 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and didn't have commands for lines, etc < 1240527242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I -think- it has some trivial drawing functions; if not you could add those. < 1240527246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But everything else is very GDI I believe < 1240527256 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, DNA Maze was almost entirely blitting < 1240527284 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was starting to get wise to the concept of portability when I ported it to Windows from DOS... < 1240527313 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SDL (well, the 2d graphics side) is rather much oriented around the concept of a simple 2d framebuffer, and surfaces you can blit from onto it. It doesn't have the GDI vector-style plotting stuff, I don't think. < 1240527321 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1240527349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: are you changing any of the graphics or whatever? < 1240527351 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be interesting to use the pure-C bits of Allegro as the graphics library, and SDL as the display library, actually < 1240527351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just making a direct port < 1240527358 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: just porting for the time being, I think < 1240527365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how much drawing stuff do you actually use? < 1240527370 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just blit and text output, IIRC < 1240527383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't see a reason to use allegro, then < 1240527393 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1240527405 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to learn SDL, but that's unlikely to be a problem < 1240527434 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously there's some simple-drawing libraries on top of SDL; at least SDL_gfx and SDL_draw exist, the first one seems to be in Debian repositories too. < 1240527441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1240527442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SDL_gfx < 1240527444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is popular < 1240527449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just use that < 1240527455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since most everyone with SDL has SDL_{audio,ttf,gfx,blah} < 1240527461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll need SDL_ttf for the text stuff < 1240527506 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and presumably SDL_image for the graphics? < 1240527511 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what format I should store them in < 1240527522 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're in .bmp at the moment, because I just converted them from the Windows RC file < 1240527529 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :decompiling your own programs FTW! < 1240527535 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: .bmp seems reasonable < 1240527541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for things like this, I think two versions is probably best < 1240527544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a completely-faithful port < 1240527551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an "integrated" evrsion < 1240527553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*version < 1240527555 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't intend to necessarily be faithful < 1240527555 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PNG is the other white meat, uh, I mean, reasonable bitmappy graphics format. < 1240527555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although for the former you could use WINE < 1240527560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does dna maze work under WINE? < 1240527564 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to < 1240527581 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I checked recently and it goes haywire whenever your rotation direction or speed changes, for some reason < 1240527583 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and works otherwise < 1240527670 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1240527670 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1240527671 0 :rodgort!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1240527671 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1240527671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1240527672 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure what's happening is just a missing Invalidate() in the original source, but that would mean being able to recompile it < 1240527677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ubuntu installed swfdec or some other shit free flash player < 1240527682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which renders youtube as a gray box < 1240527686 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did for me too, I just uninstalled it again < 1240527696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION replaces it with Adobe'
< 1240527697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1240527699 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1240527702 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : PNG is the other white meat, uh, I mean, reasonable bitmappy graphics format. <-- other? The first being tiff I guess < 1240527710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: bmp. < 1240527712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do read a few lines < 1240527716 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, bmp isn't reasonable < 1240527717 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiff is < 1240527728 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is bmp proprietary? < 1240527730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bmp is reasonable; have you read the spec or are you just performing acts of anti-MS fud < 1240527739 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1240527739 0 :rodgort!n=rodgort@ludios.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1240527739 0 :andreou!n=al@yoda.netmode.ece.ntua.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1240527739 0 :kerlo!n=ihope@normish.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1240527742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if it is, it's darn trivial regardless < 1240527743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's barely a format < 1240527744 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read the spec for bmp, at least the Microsoft version < 1240527745 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I have seen enough of the file format < 1240527749 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is very reasonable if you have your graphics as BMP files already. < 1240527754 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a simple header, and the bitmap is stored upside-down < 1240527757 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is backwards for one iirc < 1240527767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: tiff is backwards. < 1240527771 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting in the wrong end of the bitmap as far as I remember < 1240527771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it has an option to go forwards. < 1240527785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: so tiff can't be reasonable is bmp is. < 1240527786 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, bmp doesn't however < 1240527788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1240527789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse that < 1240527796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: nobody uses the tiff-go-forwards flag < 1240527807 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually I have once. < 1240527813 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Peace and Protection 4.22.2" < 1240527814 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And certainly BMP is a format, since it supports RLE compression. < 1240527815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...apart from one-off hacks. < 1240527834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, supposedly this is adobe flash < 1240527836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it works now < 1240527838 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it has a header and all. < 1240527851 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, does bmp support more than 8 bits per channel < 1240527855 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiff does I know < 1240527869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1240527886 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd, I have yet to see a program that is able to save it like that for bmp < 1240527891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while I know some for tiff < 1240527898 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The infalliblepedia says "relatively well documented and free of patents", so it's... at least not horribly proprietary. < 1240527928 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also someone has linked the word "documented" in that sentence to the page about "Documentation". *That* seems rather spurious. < 1240527929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: mspaint < 1240527934 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: MS Paint can save it 24 bits to the pixel < 1240527938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :default format in xp < 1240527956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, I don't remember seeing that in paint. But I admit not using paint since windows 98 time < 1240527962 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it is a horrible program < 1240527966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only since xp. < 1240527968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ms paint is great. < 1240527976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, for what exactly < 1240527988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for quick doodles and also more elaborate stuff < 1240527990 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 bits to the pixel pretty much means 8 bits per channel, not more? < 1240527999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance. < 1240528011 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bmp doesn't have an alpha channel < 1240528014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, inkscape is way more useful. Or Illustrator if you prefer costly software. < 1240528025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm right < 1240528028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Because raster editors are so like vector editors. < 1240528039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watch me show extreme ignorance of images! < 1240528040 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I was meaning 16 bits per channel in fact. < 1240528049 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's what I thought you meant. < 1240528050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can bmp do that then < 1240528059 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I installed kolourpaint here, because none of the default Ubuntu paint programs fill the same niche as MS Paint, but Kolourpaint does < 1240528071 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, raster images: gimp, photoshop < 1240528084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no other use for raster images than photos or scanned drawings < 1240528084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gimp is utterly useless for the kind of things mspaint is good at < 1240528087 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly you can write "48" as the bits-per-pixel value in the BMP header; I find it unlikely that anything's going to decode it right, though. < 1240528093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, mspaint isn't good at anything < 1240528099 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yes < 1240528101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yay, begging the question < 1240528106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a wonderful fallacy < 1240528133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it doesn't even support smooth antialised lines with the pen or such < 1240528139 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is useless. < 1240528142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1240528151 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for anything that is worth drawing < 1240528155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doodles are worthless unless accompanied by lens flare, other filters, and antialiased pens < 1240528159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, inherent worth of drawing! < 1240528164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like you shouldn't program in esolangs < 1240528172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as they're not worth programming in < 1240528172 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is the whole genre of pixel art; I do think that has the right to exist. < 1240528199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yes I agree with that. But it tends to be far away from all stuff I have seen done in ms paint < 1240528199 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I also think there are more pixel-art-optimized programs than mspaint. Though mspaint has the availability thing going for it. < 1240528202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: probably akin to his taste in music. was pixel art invented in the 1900s or later? < 1240528206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1240528208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go then < 1240528218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: a large portion of pixel artists use ms paint. < 1240528223 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why not read my last line before acting stupid < 1240528227 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1240528234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I started typing before you sent it, dolt. < 1240528256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it was over 10 seconds in between. I guess you are lagged. < 1240528265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I guess you're lagged < 1240528269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I've never been significantly lagged before < 1240528270 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and are you looking at keyboard or screen when typing. < 1240528273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you've been lagged for 30+ seconds. < 1240528275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes. < 1240528281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have 0.1 seconds lag. < 1240528282 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there was some open-source Deluxe Paint port, too; one would think that'd be popular, given the amazing popularity of the original. Though maybe it suckeded. < 1240528316 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway I would assume you to be smart enough to use backspace when you see the line you are typing is no longer relevant. < 1240528324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh just fuck off < 1240528340 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would be more worthwhile if you used arguments instead of resorting to semantic pedantry on the messages themselves < 1240528345 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah that is your response when you can't think of any witty reply < 1240528347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where more = a miniscule amount greater < 1240528348 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes we know that < 1240528358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god you're such an irritating shit < 1240528411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, talking about yourself in second person again I see. Anyway mspaint is indeed useless. There are way better programs for pixel art. There are way better programs for "quick doodles", there are way better programs for image editing. < 1240528419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it can't do more than 8 bits per channel. < 1240528425 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: been eating spicy food? < 1240528435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 bits per pixel is not more than 8 per channel. < 1240528440 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as fizzie said < 1240528446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you too ^ < 1240528466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you admitted that to being a mistake < 1240528472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't then use it as a point of argument < 1240528477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's simply dishonest and stupid < 1240528477 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what? < 1240528485 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean "admited" < 1240528489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me what you mean < 1240528507 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accepted I might have been wrong, but it seems I was right. < 1240528511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:05 ais523: AnMaster: MS Paint can save it 24 bits to the pixel < 1240528511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:05 AnMaster: really, I don't remember seeing that in paint. But I admit not using paint since windows 98 time < 1240528512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering what fizzie said < 1240528513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:06 fizzie: 24 bits to the pixel pretty much means 8 bits per channel, not more? < 1240528515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:07 AnMaster: fizzie, hm right < 1240528517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:07 AnMaster: fizzie, I was meaning 16 bits per channel in fact. < 1240528519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you admitted that you meant something else < 1240528522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't therefore say you meant it as that all along < 1240528523 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no < 1240528529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? that was a verbatim quote < 1240528531 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I was *CLARIFYING* < 1240528531 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who saves any sort of bitmap 16 bits to the channel? < 1240528532 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1240528538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1240528539 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, my camera does, to tiff < 1240528544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a start < 1240528584 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, though I think the raw file format actually uses 12 bits per channel, but tiff can't handle that. < 1240528597 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when selecting tiff it rounds it up to 16 < 1240528613 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it look any different than 8 to the channel? < 1240528633 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It lets you do exposure-correction and things like that better. < 1240528642 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, exactly. < 1240528674 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see; it's just the same for an image when humans view it, but if there's something wrong with the image it's easier to correct < 1240528677 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, btw only the very last version of gimp is able to handle more than 8 per channel. now that it has started using that http://www.gegl.org/ thing < 1240528686 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that isn't correct < 1240528699 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last version still doesn't handle it. but it soon will < 1240528706 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks to gegl < 1240528770 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, depending on what gamut you are using 8 bits may be too few < 1240528783 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Wide_Gamut_RGB_color_space for example < 1240528787 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I don't use that one < 1240528800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use non-wide Adobe RGB most of the time < 1240528835 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is still better than sRGB < 1240528848 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so yes there are lots of reasons for more than 8 bits per channel < 1240528931 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ehird, does bmp support more than 8 bits per channel < 1240528931 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : tiff does I know < 1240528931 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : yes. < 1240528931 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: MS Paint can save it 24 bits to the pixel < 1240528931 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : default format in xp < 1240528931 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 24 bits per pixel is not more than 8 per channel. < 1240528933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: you admitted that to being a mistake < 1240528935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 23:07 AnMaster: fizzie, I was meaning 16 bits per channel in fact. < 1240528937 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : you admitted that you meant something else < 1240528939 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : you can't therefore say you meant it as that all along < 1240528941 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ehird, no < 1240528943 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : no? that was a verbatim quote < 1240528945 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1240528945 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ehird, I was *CLARIFYING* < 1240528945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: fuck you, shitflooder < 1240528947 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how ehird's logic worked there < 1240528949 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said "more than 8 bits per channel" all along < 1240528950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1240528952 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The raw formats tend to be (or at least some are; certainly those which are really a raw dump of the sensor contents) more complicated than just "array of pixels, with equal amounts of bits per each RGB channel", anyway, since the sensor isn't like that; quite often there's in each 2x2 square one blue, one red and two green pixels. (And some have a fourth color filter there in place of the second green.) < 1240528968 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was confused by ais and ehird yes < 1240528986 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I said "more than 8 bits per channel" all along < 1240528993 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that is what the logs will prove < 1240529005 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wish ehird could admit being wrong for once. < 1240529007 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1240529085 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yes I'm well aware. I usually end up with raw image -> ufraw (adjust stuff) -> tiff (adobe rgb) -> gimp (here you lose the extra info currently) < 1240529107 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hopes gimp will properly support color management some day
< 1240529146 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I might go mac just because of that. ColorSync + photoshop. For such stuff macs currently win by a wide margin. < 1240529157 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though gimp is better at some stuff certainly. < 1240529326 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, fizzie: photoshop supports 32 bits per channel btw. < 1240529553 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I guess it also does floating-point color channels. < 1240529568 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep it does < 1240529615 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The HDR-specific formats tend to do that. < 1240529720 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, and lots of non-standard colour spaces < 1240529732 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CIE 1931 XYZ for example :D < 1240529828 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and pantone of course < 1240529835 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I don't care a lot for that < 1240530168 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1240530617 0 :amca!n=amca@CPE-121-208-82-6.qld.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1240531054 0 :Dewio!n=dewi@124-171-215-150.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric