< 1239755527 0 :fizzie!i=fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1239755631 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello fizzie do you like lemons < 1239756406 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@92.254.128.248 QUIT :"reboot" < 1239756552 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1239756618 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@92.254.128.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1239758335 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1239758571 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :"Good night" < 1239758961 0 :neldoreth!n=user@unixboard/users/neldoreth QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1239759102 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1239759988 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@dialup-4.88.167.61.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1239760440 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :"X-Chat -> http://xchat.org <- At least when I quit I don't look like a lamer" < 1239766912 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1239767880 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-55-129.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1239768003 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1239768886 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-55-129.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1239769580 0 :comex!n=comex@teklinks.org QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1239770355 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1239777050 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1239777262 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: When life gives you lemons, make a lemur. < 1239777412 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?896 < 1239777420 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :When life gives you lemon, make lemonade. < 1239777427 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming you also got water and a glass < 1239777450 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sugar, pleeasse < 1239777454 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm allergic to citrus". "When life gives you lemons, swell up and die." < 1239777461 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@dialup-4.88.167.61.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When life gives you lemons, distill the citric acid out of it. < 1239777469 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it's just lemon juice < 1239777483 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :When god gives you lemon, you FIND A NEW GOD < 1239777504 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :　　　＿＿＿_∧∧　　／￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣ < 1239777505 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :　～'　＿＿__(,,ﾟДﾟ)＜ SWELL UP AND DIE! < 1239777505 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :　　 ＵU 　 　Ｕ U　　　＼＿＿＿＿＿＿＿＿ < 1239777545 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1239777551 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't see the unicode < 1239777565 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buy some unicode < 1239777572 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@dialup-4.88.167.61.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION kicks rxvt-unicode
< 1239777578 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@dialup-4.88.167.61.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't see the Unicode, either. < 1239777590 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@dialup-4.88.167.61.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a terminal which advertises Unicode support as one of its main features! < 1239777622 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :（　´_ゝ`） < 1239777640 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://membres.lycos.fr/bewulf/Divers8/gikogiko.jpg < 1239777683 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@dialup-4.88.167.61.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More frustrating when you can rather readily write things that need Unicode. < 1239777684 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :(´ー`) < 1239777690 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@dialup-4.88.167.61.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1239777719 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :＼| ￣ヘ￣|／ < 1239777734 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have some ASCII Shii then < 1239777746 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*°__°) < 1239777807 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :　　　　　 ∧ ∧　.＿＿__ ＿ 　　　　　　　　　　 < 1239777807 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :　 　 　　 (*ﾟーﾟ) |　　|@j|〕二l 　　　　　　　　　 < 1239777807 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :　　　　　ﾉ つ,-ｰ|　　|llﾛ|二l' 　　　　　　　　　　 < 1239777807 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :　　　～（＿|￣￣￣|￣￣￣￣| < 1239777807 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :　 　　.┗┳|＿＿＿|＿＿＿＿| 　 < 1239777815 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahah! I'm using the internet < 1239777829 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :⋱⊗∙⊗⋰ < 1239777883 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :≀-.-≀ < 1239777939 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric : イ_イ < 1239777953 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :シ < 1239777962 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needs more COOL FREE RINGTONES. < 1239778025 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :（ິ.ິ） < 1239778083 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :⍤ < 1239778094 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :೮⌟೮ < 1239778101 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :　　　 ＿＿＿＿ < 1239778102 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :　　 ／　／　／| < 1239778102 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :　＿|￣￣￣￣| |＿＿ < 1239778102 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :／　|＿＿＿＿|／　／ < 1239778102 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :￣￣　|し　|　￣￣ < 1239778102 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :　　　し⌒Ｊ < 1239778126 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :⌤ < 1239778137 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :⍃⍄⌄⍃⍄ < 1239778177 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, improvising is not easy! < 1239778207 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@dialup-4.88.167.61.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Baka ne. < 1239778223 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nurupo. < 1239778242 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric : ַo ַo < 1239778265 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪٪v٪ < 1239778306 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1239779293 0 :SimonRC!n=sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1239780155 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1239780516 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@dialup-4.88.167.61.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net QUIT :"leaving" < 1239782092 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-133-183.hlrn.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1239782114 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se QUIT :"Later" < 1239784599 0 :bsmntbombdood!i=gavin@97-118-133-183.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1239785333 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se QUIT :"Leaving" < 1239786686 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-143-134.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1239786803 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-143-134.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :plop < 1239786808 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo < 1239787411 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :glio < 1239787569 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1239789333 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I BELIEVE NOW < 1239789360 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't believe in yourself < 1239789365 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Believe in me, who believes in you. < 1239789447 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't believe in Slereah, he doesn't really exist! < 1239789452 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1239789488 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no i believe in a higher power. i decided this 5 minutes ago. < 1239789513 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a higher power < 1239789513 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1239789517 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomorrow i shall believe in a lower power. < 1239789517 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel my mighty dong. < 1239789538 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: i'm not interested in your vietnamese currency < 1239789551 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1239789568 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE VIETNAMESE PEOPLE ARE RETARDS < 1239789578 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait why is it funny < 1239789603 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://membres.lycos.fr/bewulf/Divers3/Vietnam_dong_1976.jpg < 1239789607 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? < 1239789611 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard and shiny. < 1239789633 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_%C4%91%E1%BB%93ng < 1239789644 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i had a dong :'( < 1239789646 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually have some of that. < 1239789651 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 5000 dongs :o < 1239789657 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because it's worthless) < 1239789741 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: you have to be more specific, which comments are about money and which are about penises < 1239789762 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, can you guess what would fit in my room < 1239789775 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :5000 dongs worth of Vietnamese currency < 1239789779 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or 5000 penises < 1239789789 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably both, technically < 1239789806 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, 5000 penises would take up significant space, though < 1239789820 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had 5000 dongs, I'd probably store them in the attic < 1239789821 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :living in a room containing 5000 rotting human penises would probably be an interesting experience if you're gay < 1239789855 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you might invest in a freezer < 1239789863 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm true < 1239789872 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, I'm not going to eat them. < 1239789910 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for science! < 1239789943 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then be my assistant. < 1239789963 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er... < 1239789977 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly the ethical considerations start looming large < 1239789977 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could call them cocksicles and sell them at the market < 1239789999 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tests-sicles < 1239790026 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hihi what a funny novelty popsicle, these will be great for Margette's bachelorette party!" < 1239790038 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Margarette < 1239790049 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that's a better name < 1239790074 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :point is that would be good reality tv < 1239790082 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MY GOD THEY'RE ALIVE < 1239790095 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: the name suitable enhances the stereotype < 1239790098 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*y < 1239790114 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT STEREOTYPE DURRRRR < 1239790127 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Margarette is the real name of Maggie. < 1239790139 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :A baby, sucking on rotting severed penises < 1239790139 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the kind of people who would say "hihi what a funny novelty popsicle, these will be great for Margette's bachelorette party!" < 1239790141 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :You sicken me < 1239790161 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait who sickens who < 1239790169 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: most probably true. < 1239790178 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did have a reason to choose it < 1239790222 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was exactly the fact that it suitable enhanced the stereotype of the kind of people who say the kind of thing the character said even though aforementioned dude (who was a chick) wasn't margarette but her friend. < 1239790277 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably go now, my new religion is making me a bit pseudosemantic. < 1239790311 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fake meaning? < 1239790316 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your religion needs a bit more gloom < 1239790324 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1239790342 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :current one is probably like christianity because i caught it in the shower < 1239790347 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and neighbors are probably < 1239790351 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :christian < 1239790358 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am i still up < 1239790394 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: because you haven't fallen yet < 1239790417 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye all < 1239790434 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the bye < 1239790438 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1239790448 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can christianity be passed on through water? < 1239790469 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hm that _would_ explain that baptism thing wouldn't it? < 1239790481 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1239790484 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a genius < 1239790488 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seriously though < 1239790490 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1239790492 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably that's true < 1239790530 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. need to go to the shoppe, to buy religious things, then university stuff. < 1239790537 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a whole hour of it! < 1239790547 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1239790648 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1239790686 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from wikipedia's On this day i deduce that Kim Il-Sung was born the same day Titanic sank < 1239790711 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would guess the north koreans largely don't advertise that < 1239790719 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or don't know that < 1239790752 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a titannic? < 1239790758 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Titanic was obviously one of the great failures of capitalism, they have to know about it < 1239790776 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: then why wouldn't they advertise it? < 1239790787 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they might not mention the date < 1239790798 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe they would < 1239790816 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's like their great and massive leader killed the capitalisms and you know. < 1239790827 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :by borning to a world. < 1239790850 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AN COOL WORLD TO BE BORNING UPON AND UNTO :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1239790874 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :excuse me. i suck at leaving. < 1239790879 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe -> < 1239791532 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1239794013 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :"X-Chat -> http://xchat.org <- At least when I quit I don't look like a lamer" < 1239795002 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :"At least when I quit I don't look like a llama" < 1239795839 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@92.254.128.248 QUIT :"got to go" < 1239798858 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-81-95.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1239799577 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-72-176.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1239801066 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1239808760 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone explain what sense victim caches make to me < 1239808765 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1239808770 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol i figured them out midsentence < 1239808771 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1239809308 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:39 pikhq: In a terminal which advertises Unicode support as one of its main features! < 1239809312 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's shiftjis < 1239809336 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now someone fix x11 < 1239809955 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:21:44 tusho, php then header(). < 1239809955 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:21:49 AnMaster: HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA < 1239809956 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:21:56 * tusho kicks AnMaster < 1239810480 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:49:27 optbot: your wisdom is beyond compare < 1239810480 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:49:28 oerjan: you could not infect OpenBSD boxes with it, though < 1239810488 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:49:49 optbot: you only run on Linux then? < 1239810488 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:49:50 oerjan: also the world's best imperative language. < 1239810578 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:55:29 fungot: YOU ARE A RUBBISH BOT! HAH! EAT FLAMES,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,eheheheh... < 1239810578 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:55:30 ais523: has scheme only 26 levels of recursion < 1239810771 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :..what language is optbot coded in? < 1239810777 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ruby < 1239810780 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1239810780 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :40 line hack < 1239810785 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1239810786 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just picks random lines from the logs < 1239810789 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and blabs them < 1239810792 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or changes the topic to them < 1239810841 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be interesting if fungot bashed ruby instead of haskell, bot wars < 1239810848 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh < 1239810850 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme* < 1239810863 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :web.archive.org is doooooooooown < 1239811007 0 :fungot!n=fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1239811012 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I'm up to the part where AnMaster acts as if I'm immoral for not telling everyone what tentaclerapture.com was about on the front page < 1239811020 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gets me every time < 1239811039 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since fungot's language model is for the most parts #scheme logs, it tends to be a bit biased to talk about that particular language. < 1239811039 0 :fungot!n=fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's tragic. typical. those pigs... cardelli, et al's theory of objects. do you have < 1239811049 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-DDDDDDD < 1239811050 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, very tragic. < 1239811302 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:05:17 * Sgeo won in a shoppa match (in Worms) < 1239811307 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: People who call it 'shoppa' suck balls. < 1239811591 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:58:44 optbot: we're gonna have to put you in rehab < 1239811591 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:58:45 tusho: to allow pushing several in one row < 1239811592 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:58:51 well < 1239811593 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, he has a point, it IS typical < 1239811594 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:58:56 optbot: no, you can't take drugs any more sorry < 1239811596 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:58:56 tusho: what is your complaint < 1239811598 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:59:07 optbot: drugs are bad for computer programs mmkay < 1239811600 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:59:07 tusho: I dunno. :| < 1239811630 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1239811639 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:08:12 KingOfKarlsruhe: There's a family name in my family that hasn't been used for, oh, ten generations or so. < 1239811639 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:09:14 optbot, what name is that? < 1239811641 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:09:14 AnMaster: what's wrong with this one?, (define (fib n) (+ (fib (- n 1) (- n 2)))) < 1239811655 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny fungot is fungotty < 1239811655 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calling people (define (fib n) (+ (fib (- n 1) (- n 2)))) got a bit unwieldy, I guess. < 1239811656 0 :fungot!n=fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: nope, i'm trying my best. could you briefly explain how that is < 1239811663 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that was optbot < 1239811666 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE ORIGINAL < 1239811673 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah well < 1239811679 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I noticed < 1239811687 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I wanted some fungot sentence < 1239811687 0 :fungot!n=fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: spiders are cool. < 1239811723 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:17:54 -rw-r----- 1 root adm 1.5G Sep 24 15:16 /var/log/apache2/access.log < 1239811723 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yow < 1239812061 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:21:20 AnMaster: not exactly, tusho only likes Mac fonts < 1239812069 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here we see an excellent misunderstanding of cause vs effect < 1239813020 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/05/13/introducing-qgtkstyle/ AWESOME. < 1239814637 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1239815127 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hi I forgot again how one inputs a non-printable char in emacs... I need to put a literal null byte in a text file to test something. < 1239815161 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :control-q, then either type the literal character, or type its character code and press return < 1239815167 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :the character code's input in octal by default, IIRC < 1239815170 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :but many people change that < 1239815175 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1239815185 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :so C-q 0 RET is how you type a literal NUL < 1239815264 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :err. something is wrong.. < 1239815280 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 0 case worked < 1239815281 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :octal? why? < 1239815302 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, but when I tried 12... well I'm not sure what happened, hard to describe < 1239815354 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: back when Emacs became popular, octal was the usual method of abbreviating binary < 1239815359 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it inserted two newlines instead of one hm. But only in that specific buffer < 1239815362 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :how strange < 1239815380 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it worked on the seven-segment displays that were popular in early computers < 1239815385 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: heh. < 1239815396 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they'd moved onto proper screens by then, octal still hadn't given way to hex < 1239815402 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, is it possible that mule-utf8 mode thingy mess this up? < 1239815420 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I have no idea why emacs decided to enable that for this file < 1239815421 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it shouldn't, I don't think < 1239815422 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks into writing a haskell extension to ghc that automatically reloads modules
< 1239815436 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm tired of C-c C-l and remaking my definitions! < 1239815448 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1239815448 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghci < 1239815449 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc < 1239815465 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"relohder" < 1239815467 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is shot
< 1239815492 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1239815507 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, it has an h < 1239815509 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for haskell < 1239815512 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great pun! < 1239815525 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, why does C-q mode display a space between every digit in the minibuffer? < 1239815533 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/mode // < 1239815540 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the standard multicharacter echo < 1239815551 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-q 1 2 RET is effectively a multicharacter command < 1239815562 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it writes each character in the command separately when echoing < 1239815591 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, some stuff in the minibuffer doesn't do such spaces though. C-s for example. < 1239815601 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because it's not a command < 1239815601 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-s is a minor mode, not a multicharacter command < 1239815608 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a command that opens a minibuffer input thing < 1239815611 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, heh interesting < 1239815616 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(do you know anything about emacs?!) < 1239815621 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't even USE it!) < 1239815623 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :likewise, C-x C-f is a multicharacter command, but the file input afterwards is a prompt < 1239815637 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't get spaces inside the filename < 1239815647 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well I haven't studied much about its internals < 1239815654 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not internals... < 1239815670 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it is internals but you can deduce it all just from thinking while using Emacs < 1239815676 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :my main interest was just using it. I haven't really cared how it works as long as it worked as I wanted it. < 1239815700 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basic elements of the UI < 1239815728 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes and I haven't really cared about how it worked, I have been able to use it just fine without knowing that. < 1239815739 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you use a UI without knowing how the UI works < 1239815743 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a contradiction in terms < 1239815760 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: contradiction or not, I've certainly seen lots of people /do/ it... < 1239815764 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally badly < 1239815768 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, they're called secretaries, ais523 < 1239815791 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, secretaries nowadays are normally pretty good with the computer tasks they need to do < 1239815796 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :although often it's cargo-cult style < 1239815802 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you seem to be saying that you need to know that C-s is a minor mode to be able to use C-s? Why? < 1239815810 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: nothing related to minor mode < 1239815823 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's related to having an input field in the minibuffer vs it echoing a command as you type it < 1239815825 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's trivial < 1239815826 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's obvious that it's a minor mode, though, because Isearch comes up on the modeline < 1239815848 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :likewise, M-x C-x o works rather differently from C-q C-x o < 1239815861 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reasons why should be obvious, especially if you know the difference between M-x and C-q < 1239815887 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm that thing on modeline, haven't noticed one of those showed up for Isearch, now that you mention it though < 1239815977 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, M-x is just execute-command iirc? < 1239815991 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm correction: C-h k M-x claims it is execute-extended-command. < 1239816002 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, M-x lets you execute arbitrary commands < 1239816006 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :by typing in their extended name < 1239816017 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do M-x forward-char if you really want to < 1239816026 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much the only thing that doesn't sanely work is M-x self-insert-command < 1239816029 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it doesn't know which character to insert < 1239816047 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it enters ^M < 1239816052 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :(self-insert-command's the default binding for all the alphabetic, numeric and punctuation keys) < 1239816052 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and says you can run it with SPC < 1239816060 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: heh < 1239816070 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :that behaviour's plausible, knowing Emacs' internals < 1239816110 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-q runs the command quoted-insert < 1239816111 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `simple.el'. < 1239816111 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is bound to C-q. < 1239816115 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :err a bit redundant? < 1239816124 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :from C-h k C-q < 1239816125 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, that means it isn't bound to anything else < 1239816126 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1239816132 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what ais523 said < 1239816221 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ok that makes sense. I can't think of a case where you would want to bind to several key combinations, though. (but I don't see any reason to forbid doing so either) < 1239816236 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you want self-insert-command bound to most of the keys on your keyboard < 1239816257 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and due to the existence of modes, it happens quite a bit < 1239816276 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, moving a rectangular block of code can be done with C-x r k, C-x r y < 1239816280 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's true. And it is a rather interesting way to handle normal input :) < 1239816291 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly very "emacs-y" < 1239816293 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :a hypothetical befunge-mode would probably introduce abbreviations for those < 1239816305 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would be insane if it removed the original bindings < 1239816334 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1239816584 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION digs up a K interp
< 1239816665 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, NASA came up with an interesting solution to the whole Colbert thing < 1239816697 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1239816699 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of naming the new module after him, they went and called their newest treadmill the Combined Operational Load Bearing External Resistance Treadmill < 1239816723 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one of those is shipping up to the ISS < 1239816741 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame < 1239816769 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humans need ECC memory. < 1239816790 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: how do you know they don't have it/ < 1239816802 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :humans need computers to do that sort of stuff for them < 1239816821 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"• Learn the kdb+ programming language q from the tutorials at code.kx.com. Buy the Q for Mortals book on Amazon. " < 1239816825 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if I plan on being immortal? < 1239816826 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, considering of often we misremember stuff that happened several years ago. < 1239816834 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kx.com/images/0903-DownloadKX.png < 1239816840 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 32 bit trial version. yaaaaaaaay . < 1239816843 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's not errors < 1239816849 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just shifting unused memory out < 1239816857 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fuzzy garbage collection < 1239816897 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, wouldn't that be "forget" rather than "misremember"? Or do you mean the GC corrupts the data? < 1239816911 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't remember so we make shit up < 1239817034 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that isn't always the case though, sometimes you distinctly remember that [some event] happened in [some year], but checking with letters or whatever shows it happened a year or two [before/after] < 1239817036 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or such < 1239817599 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :q)\l /dev/null < 1239817599 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :k){if[$[1>@d:!f:-1!x;1;`.d~*d];:.[$[qt d;*|`\:f;`.];();:;d:. f]];p:(d=`par.txt)|d like"[0-9]*"; < 1239817601 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ."\\cd ",$x;f .q.set'{$[0>@!x:-1!x;. x;x`]}'f:d@&~(d=`html)|p|s:"."in'$d;if[|/p;L d@&p];if[~`.=x;(."\\l ",$:)'d@&s&~p];} < 1239817603 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'type < 1239817605 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.: < 1239817607 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`:/dev/null < 1239817609 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :q)) < 1239817612 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love k/q < 1239817666 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :at first I thought that was a mix of Perl and shellscript < 1239817682 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :the funny thing is, though, it doesn't look like line noise at all < 1239817688 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a mix of q and k < 1239817692 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't obviously intelligible; but, you can tell there's meaning in there < 1239817700 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, I type in the q "\l /dev/null", and then it gives the internal K code < 1239817702 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some results < 1239817707 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I get the q)) prompt < 1239817711 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that means debugger < 1239817714 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as doing it more gets me more )s < 1239817719 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ^D pops a ) off < 1239817747 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1239817750 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :q)help < 1239817750 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{if[not 10h=abs type x;x:string x];$[1=count i:where(key DIR)like x,"*";-1 ea.. < 1239817752 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :q)help` < 1239817753 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<

> < 1239817755 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess postfix ` is eval < 1239817787 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :q)1 2 3 * 2 < 1239817787 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 4 6 < 1239817790 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reassuring < 1239817809 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DNA sequencing of q also shows the influence of functional programming. While q is not purely functional, it is arguably as functional as C++, Java and C# are object-oriented. < 1239817978 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1239817983 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :k/q has limited size integers < 1239817989 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :q)5646899984888785456546451513321586789489468465435233165449888788889 < 1239817990 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'5646899984888785456546451513321586789489468465435233165449888788889 < 1239817990 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :q)22 < 1239817993 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :22 < 1239818072 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ais523 is here! < 1239818080 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i has questions < 1239818082 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you not notice? < 1239818088 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: difficultly. < 1239818089 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I have Enigma levels < 1239818095 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had them for a while, but forgot to paste < 1239818098 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: heh < 1239818102 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :enigma dude is back! < 1239818102 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :amusingly, still no AnMaster-style ones < 1239818109 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway, does c-intercal have any ^Hs in its code? < 1239818112 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :but one of them I've played about 20 times despite having completed it, it's fun < 1239818113 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that moar clc < 1239818114 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1239818117 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ical code < 1239818131 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: C-INTERCAL accepts c backspace / as a mingle character < 1239818137 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it accepts any syntax so long as it's unambiguous < 1239818145 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is it idiotmatic < 1239818145 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, any syntax used by any INTERCAL compiler < 1239818148 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean idiomatic/ < 1239818152 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\/$// < 1239818163 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the Google coding standards don't recommend using literal backspaces < 1239818170 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the vast majority of people use $ because it's easier to type < 1239818177 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLC-INTERCAL programs are often written using literal backspace, though < 1239818192 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: see, my intercal compiler will have many strange metafeatures used in its implementation and elsewhere < 1239818201 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I wanted to expose them as variables prefixed with an interrobang < 1239818205 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll support ‽, ofc < 1239818207 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably ?! < 1239818211 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and !? < 1239818214 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm wondering whether to support... < 1239818215 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?^H! < 1239818218 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and !^H? < 1239818221 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :?! can exist in regular INTERCAL code < 1239818221 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1239818228 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what, as a variable name? < 1239818234 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :"?!4~.5'" is legal code < 1239818239 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what, as a variable name? < 1239818255 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: not as a variable name, but it can appear in a context where the parser couldn't tell them apart for much later < 1239818274 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: then using ?! sounds perfectly INTERCAL to me. < 1239818279 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, contrast "?!4~.5'" and "?!4~.5" < 1239818286 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well. < 1239818289 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what those do. < 1239818293 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1239818295 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ is mingle right < 1239818297 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or select < 1239818299 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, ~ is select < 1239818301 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1239818302 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's < 1239818306 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1239818309 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the ! var prefix again < 1239818312 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :'. < 1239818316 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1239818317 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :a standard abbreviation < 1239818322 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, what's '. :D < 1239818327 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :' to ' is parens < 1239818331 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is " to " < 1239818333 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1239818334 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's < 1239818335 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and . is a variable identifier < 1239818339 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?!4~.5' < 1239818340 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1239818341 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's < 1239818344 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@92.254.128.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1239818344 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ! in INTERCAL is like ($ in Perl < 1239818347 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? '.4~.5' < 1239818352 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's ? < 1239818356 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :unary XOR < 1239818368 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :although remember it's written one character later than in other languages < 1239818371 0 :bsmntbombdood!i=gavin@97-118-133-183.hlrn.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1239818376 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so: the unary XORing of the selecting of .4 and .5 < 1239818379 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1239818383 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs the interrobang one which is: < 1239818389 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...a syntax error < 1239818393 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you have an unmatched ' < 1239818401 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I don't see any problem there. < 1239818405 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but you can't tell that until much later in the expression < 1239818411 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and? :D < 1239818415 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm wondering if you could do two of them which cancelled each other out somehow < 1239818417 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gimme some code that actually is valid in both forms < 1239818446 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the recommended form will probably be ‽, for æsthetics < 1239818476 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :,1SUB'?!1~.2''.3'?!4~.5'' is, I think, ambiguous < 1239818489 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wow, nothing simpler? < 1239818516 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may actually be ambiguous even without interrobang, let me run it through C-INTERCAL's parser < 1239818560 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway, which do you think I should allow out of ‽ ?! !? ?^H! !^H? < 1239818567 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and which do you think I should recommend? < 1239818577 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should allow all but the second and third < 1239818593 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :multichar operators /must/ be overpunched in INTERCAL, or abbreviated to a single char somehow < 1239818598 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you're just wasting horizontal space < 1239818613 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm ... but OTOH, that breaks ASCII-compatibility < 1239818627 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g., with C-INTERCAL you don't need to use any non-printable-ASCII, right? < 1239818632 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, save for newlines < 1239818642 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1239818647 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh? < 1239818648 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most of ASCII is already taken < 1239818653 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, no you don't < 1239818655 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1239818658 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'd like to keep it < 1239818659 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that < 1239818669 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe I could accept "^H" as ^H < 1239818674 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ?^HI is obviously the princeton syntax for the operator < 1239818679 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ?^H! < 1239818680 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd type !^H? -- literally < 1239818687 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or ?^H!) < 1239818689 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :the atari syntax would be a single entirely different character < 1239818691 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ` < 1239818695 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, !, ^, H, ? < 1239818697 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea? :P < 1239818708 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-INTERCAL is Atari, CLC-INTERCAL is Princeton < 1239818722 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi < 1239818724 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's probably not a good idea, although it /is/ what C-INTERCAL does internally to try to explain the syntax to lex < 1239818732 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's it not a good idea? :-( < 1239818740 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is confusing... < 1239818742 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1239818748 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/is/\/is\// < 1239818750 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :because ^H is hardly portable, the keyboard might not even have a control key < 1239818756 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to think back to 1972 here < 1239818756 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what? < 1239818758 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant < 1239818758 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1239818760 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :H < 1239818760 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :not modern assumptions < 1239818762 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two characters < 1239818765 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is accepted as ^H < 1239818766 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know < 1239818771 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :^H is utterly unidiomatic < 1239818785 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would make no sense to a 1970s programmer, most likely < 1239818788 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, c-intercal isn't 1972 compatible is it? < 1239818792 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1239818812 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to convert the code to a modern character set using convickt if it's written in EBCDIC or something weird like that < 1239818817 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it runs 1972 code without modifications < 1239818822 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's irrelevant < 1239818829 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, a person from 1972 couldn't utilize all of cintercal < 1239818846 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could if they had the compiler and a copy of the manual < 1239818875 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, it uses no non-1972 characters? < 1239818933 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASCII and EBCDIC both existed back then < 1239818952 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it uses no characters that didn't exist in 1972 < 1239818958 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and thus the characters ^ and H existed < 1239818961 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1239818967 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I mean, ^H didn't mean backspace < 1239818968 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus ^ followed by H as backspace is not a problem for 1972 < 1239818976 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that people couldn't type it, it's that it made absolutely no sense < 1239818978 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and $ didn't mean mingle either < 1239818979 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to the rest of INTERCAL < 1239818994 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no, but currency signs in general mean mingle < 1239819000 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a simple generalisation < 1239819012 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: regardless, intercal has never made esnse < 1239819016 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and C-INTERCAL accepts the old-fashioned notation for mingle too < 1239819025 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and please don't say that, there are reasons behind everything there < 1239819027 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just bad reasons < 1239819062 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does c-intercal accept unicode cent? < 1239819074 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1239819083 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :if expressed in UTF-8 < 1239819086 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it accepts latin-1 cent too < 1239819089 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yen is a weird case < 1239819091 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I just don't want to break ASCIIpatibility < 1239819100 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it treats it as exclusive-or if given in latin-1, or mingle if given in utf-8 < 1239819108 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :which DTRT for nearly all programs < 1239819110 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, I don't want to water down the interrobang < 1239819127 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1239819127 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seriously thing ?! is the right way to do it < 1239819128 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1239819129 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :*think < 1239819132 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :re: yen < 1239819145 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because CLC-INTERCAL uses the yen sign as an approximation as V backspace - < 1239819152 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: my favoured editor doesn't do literal backspaces. so. < 1239819153 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nearly all CLC-INTERCAL programs are written in Latin-1 < 1239819156 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really want to recommend them < 1239819160 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: your favoured editor fails < 1239819163 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :really badly < 1239819175 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: most editors do < 1239819177 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :even Notepad does literal backspaces if you copy and paste them from elsewhere < 1239819180 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from emacs and vi < 1239819181 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1239819182 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well duh < 1239819184 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc my editor does that < 1239819197 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean it doesn't display them nicely and I can't enter them properly < 1239819204 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike, say, vi, where you can do ^V backspace < 1239819232 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :edit.com can do literal backspaces, it's available on pretty much all Windows systems and is older than Notepad < 1239819237 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, I'll just support unicode < 1239819239 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's da futur < 1239819251 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darfur < 1239819261 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: just ship with a copy of convickt, it was specifically invented to avoid these sorts of problems... < 1239819280 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how crazy do you think marking a certain type of literal with unbalanced ' and " and nothing else is? < 1239819283 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, 'foo" is it and so is "foo' < 1239819284 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1239819307 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect it'll lead to massive ambiguity < 1239819314 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Precisely. < 1239819317 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :just trying to explain what something as simple as .1~.2~.3 does is hard enough < 1239819334 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the end I had to find out by experiment, despite having two sets of documentation and two sets of source cde < 1239819335 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :*code < 1239819342 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1239819345 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that difficult < 1239819353 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :which way does it associate/ < 1239819361 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1239819378 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) DO ‽1 ← 'DO GIVE UP" < 1239819381 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1239819382 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1239819386 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could do “ to ” < 1239819397 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode that's similar to ascii is always the answer. < 1239819401 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to keep compatibility with other compilers, CLC-INTERCAL uses , as a delimiter for that sort of string < 1239819404 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) DO ‽1 ← “DO GIVE UP” < 1239819408 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess what that does < 1239819431 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :assigns code to a variable? < 1239819434 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hint -- it's the basis for all control flow < 1239819435 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nope < 1239819443 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1239819444 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be < 1239819448 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) DO ‽2 ← “DO GIVE UP” < 1239819456 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's the basis for all control flow" <--- every INTERCAL implementor ever, talking about about ten different things < 1239819469 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1239819500 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it assigns the code "DO GIVE UP" to the line 2 < 1239819563 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and yes, COME FROM is implemented by symlinking the given line to the lowest untaken fractional of the line number you come from < 1239819605 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that is, "(2) COME FROM 1" would symlink 1.1 to 2, or if 1.1 is taken, it'd symlink 1.2, etc < 1239819610 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :symlinking with operand overloading? < 1239819612 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a different method? < 1239819615 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: former < 1239819616 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about computed COME FROM < 1239819619 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, your syntax is wrong < 1239819625 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, my syntax is wrong < 1239819625 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2) COME FROM (1) <--- uncomputed < 1239819629 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just explaining the idea < 1239819630 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2) COME FROM #1 <--- computed < 1239819633 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: right < 1239819641 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr, something's wrong with filebin.ca < 1239819648 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: with computed, I think it'd do something crazy. < 1239819655 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what, but I don't think humanity could handle it. < 1239819668 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah. < 1239819673 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Operand overloading fractional line numbers. < 1239819686 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discuss. < 1239819686 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's simple enough, you can overload a variable to an expression < 1239819693 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in .1/.1~.2 < 1239819696 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1239819697 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1239819710 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but it's a rather INTERCAL basis for control flow, don't you think? < 1239819724 0 :rodgort!n=rodgort@ludios.net QUIT :"Coyote finally caught me" < 1239819732 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's one way to implement it < 1239819737 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, shouldn't you link them all to the same fractional < 1239819745 0 :rodgort!n=rodgort@ludios.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1239819746 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: eh? < 1239819763 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) DO NOTHING (2) DO COME FROM (1) (3) DO COME FROM (1) < 1239819769 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :causes control to transfer to both (2) and (3) < 1239819772 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than one or the other < 1239819783 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah < 1239819795 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if 1.1 was already linked, it'd follow it and go from there < 1239819800 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it'd try 1.1 then 2.1, I suppose < 1239819802 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1239819804 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is this threaing/ < 1239819806 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*threading < 1239819808 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1239819811 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it transfers control to them simultaneously < 1239819813 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this is in -72? < 1239819813 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1239819819 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's an extension < 1239819820 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it is an error without threading right? < 1239819822 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :COME FROM wasn't in -72 at all < 1239819824 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yep < 1239819828 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, it wasn't? < 1239819829 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot the funny message though < 1239819830 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bizarre < 1239819842 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, can you operand overload something to multiple things? < 1239819845 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :as Google says, INTERCAL has become best known for a feature that wasn't even in the original < 1239819846 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like, um, flow graph? < 1239819857 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: not simultaneously, at least not in C-INTERCAL < 1239819859 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if not, I'll add that, and cause the program to thread with both values whenever you use it < 1239819870 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :in CLC-INTERCAL, you might be able to using the "quantum" stuff < 1239819870 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thus, COME FROM doesn't have to do anything < 1239819871 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, error was something like "too many connections in control-flow graph" iirc? < 1239819880 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the interpreter tries 1.1, and it forks, getting both values, one in each thread < 1239819881 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :FLOW DIAGRAM IS EXCESSIVELY CONNECTED < 1239819883 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC < 1239819883 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and continues to them < 1239819886 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: awesome y/n < 1239819893 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah that sounds about right < 1239819914 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple operand overloading and code lines as variables = control flow and threading in one < 1239819961 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, Enigma level: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1392961 (ais52309_1.xml) < 1239819964 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@dialup-4.88.166.129.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1239819972 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you seem slightly underwhelmed < 1239819981 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'm used to this sort of thing < 1239819986 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happens all the time in INTERCAL < 1239819994 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here I was thinking operand overloading to multiple targets causing a quantum-ish threading, then using that on variable names to do threaded COME FROM < 1239819996 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was pretty cool. < 1239820002 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure, but I'm a newbie :-P < 1239820022 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/raw/1392963 (ais52310_1.xml) < 1239820032 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it should be noted that I'm doing a compiler < 1239820035 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 is a level that someone had to do sometime; 09 is a level that I've played loads of times < 1239820042 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: compiler, or interp? < 1239820046 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what are you compiling to, if compiling? < 1239820056 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: compiler, and INTERCAL < 1239820070 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're compiling INTERCAL to INTERCAL? < 1239820077 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, modern INTERCAL to INTERCAL-72? < 1239820083 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just running through cat? < 1239820091 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nope, modern INTERCAL to the compiler internal extensions only < 1239820110 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, all that's left is the internal compiler extensions < 1239820134 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you do with the result is up to you, probably I'll have a compiler from that to something else < 1239820140 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1239820151 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's actually quite a CLC-INTERCAL-like system < 1239820157 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1239820160 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but not cheating < 1239820168 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, CLC-INTERCAL's extensions are only for compiler use < 1239820168 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLC-INTERCAL isn't cheating either, IMO < 1239820171 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and discouraged elsewhere < 1239820173 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not here < 1239820207 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, no sneaky embedded perl < 1239820240 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the essential problem is that I think the compiler results will require the compiler < 1239820244 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of ‽ < 1239820249 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, style of these two new engima levels? < 1239820251 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hey, who cares < 1239820271 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 10 is a pure intelligence puzzle translated into Enigmaese < 1239820278 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, and you know the INTERCAL IDE (INTERCAL Defenestration Environment) Environment I was talking about? < 1239820282 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :09 is rather interesting and hard to classify < 1239820288 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no < 1239820293 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah you do :-P < 1239820297 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: when I said i'd port it to gnustep < 1239820299 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :09 mostly comes out as a mix of intelligence and dex < 1239820301 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: oh, yes < 1239820302 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and give out a gnustep vm with it preloaded < 1239820305 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, 10 sounds interesting definitely, and 9 is hard to know from that description < 1239820309 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Better: it'll be written for ReactOS only < 1239820310 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION downloads them
< 1239820311 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't run onwindows < 1239820312 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just reactOS < 1239820327 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: how would you classify a level that's just floor and oxyds? < 1239820330 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and maybe WINE < 1239820348 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :9's like that, just the floor is interestingly weird which makes the level very interesting < 1239820353 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found it amusing, anyway < 1239820357 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: sounds about right < 1239820362 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :WINE and ReactOS share lots of code IIRC < 1239820367 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's plausible < 1239820371 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and WINE runs on Windows, so it would even be portable < 1239820373 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, in that case I'll have to get it running on only one of them < 1239820382 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, um. depends on size and complexity. "Tutorial" comes to mind for easier ones. < 1239820390 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't a tutorial < 1239820394 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ideally, windows users would have to run the reactos-in-a-vm < 1239820397 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just one screen, 12 oxyds < 1239820402 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a floor which makes it /very/ interesting < 1239820414 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc, it'd be all packed up nicely so you can just open an executable and it opens the vm and ide < 1239820429 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the general concept is making it easy to do oh-so-horrific things < 1239820436 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1239820437 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@dialup-4.88.166.129.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could possibly even run on Windows with some of the libraries replaced with WINE's. < 1239820446 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: care to explain Tourism? < 1239820449 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c349BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no QUIT :"end" < 1239820499 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: if you know the classic puzzle, just experimenting a bit should make it obvious < 1239820500 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting, pressing ctrl-c in the terminal you started engima in causes it to go up one level in the menu system, same as esc in the enigma window < 1239820507 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't < 1239820521 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: basically, you have to get the chess stone onto every single square of the level < 1239820528 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't put it back to a square it's been on before < 1239820529 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sure sounds unfun < 1239820541 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 isn't fun to play more than once < 1239820551 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you probably want to work out the solution before typing it in < 1239820555 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, stop spoling it :( < 1239820556 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did it in under 20 minutes using Prolog < 1239820557 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :typing? < 1239820561 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, mouse-typing < 1239820564 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: sorry < 1239820590 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you should both be able to work out what the rules of Don't Look Back are more or less trivially with a bit of experimentation < 1239820616 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rules of don't look back: if you go on a square you've already been on you freeze :-P < 1239820622 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost < 1239820623 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, however, those chess pieces doesn't like to move most of the time you hit them, only in about 1 of 10 cases do they actually move. Is this intentional or am I doing something wrong? < 1239820626 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wut? < 1239820627 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed that in other levels too. < 1239820635 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: to move them, you bounce diagonally on them < 1239820645 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1239820655 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you can't control the marble on a square you've been to before, but if you go in with enough momentum you come out the other side < 1239820663 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ha < 1239820700 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"why are they trying to build a brain? how about trying to figure out how to clean up all this corruption and feed the hungry" < 1239820704 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :— Youtube comment < 1239820770 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@dialup-4.88.166.129.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, the dumb. < 1239820775 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to remember the correct pattern for visit every tile once (now that ais spoiled it, though that was one of the possible solutions I were considering even before I saw that)
< 1239820858 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1239820864 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it a spoiler < 1239820867 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, just got a new personal record on 09 < 1239820870 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :27 seconds < 1239820880 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: AnMaster likes spending lots of time working out how levels work... < 1239820916 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :amusingly, my time on easy on 09 is over twice my time on hard < 1239820918 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah nothing more enjoyable than sitting in front of a screen moving randomly until it's solved. < 1239820920 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because I've played hard so much < 1239820980 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually that won't work. Since you can't visit any tile twice, so you could make the level unfinishable by visiting them in the wrong order. < 1239821000 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: see? more boring sitting there moving randomly < 1239821001 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy now? < 1239821015 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree with the word "boring" there. < 1239821061 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :enigma level difficulty is classified into five categories: intelligence, dexterity, speed, knowledge, patience < 1239821069 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :, amount you are similar to AnMaster < 1239821070 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as I can tell, AnMaster actually likes the patience levels < 1239821091 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally, I think patience levels are just annoying < 1239821098 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /can/ make Enigma levels larger than one screen, I just don't < 1239821154 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I find that rather amusing, since nethack is very much about patience (as well as intelligence, luck and several other factors) < 1239821196 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :naw < 1239821199 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't say so < 1239821204 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's patience but not that kind of patience < 1239821292 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does Danger Flag again
< 1239821300 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's 06 < 1239821304 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here solve it yet? < 1239821308 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's intelligence, speed, and dexterity < 1239821308 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i still don't get how you can do it with just the ones you have < 1239821325 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I find speed levels rather intolerable < 1239821330 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll tell you the solution if you like, but in /msg so as not to spoil it for everyone else < 1239821340 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1239821355 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like the meditation levels < 1239821451 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@dialup-4.88.166.129.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net QUIT :"leaving" < 1239821505 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like some of them, but not others < 1239821584 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about 07, has anyone done that yet? < 1239821630 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suspects AnMaster is busy doing 10
< 1239821658 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, correct, almost done though < 1239821709 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know a tiny light integrated board thing that can run linux & x11? < 1239821765 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :gumstix I used for a University project < 1239821770 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could manage that relatively easily < 1239821773 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the hardware quality is low < 1239821777 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ordering them from the US takes ages < 1239821779 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :define hardware quality < 1239821790 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the ones we had broke, despite no abnormal use, within a few months < 1239821800 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some were broken on arrival and had to be sent back < 1239821818 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and it could handle hooking up a screen and running x11? < 1239821843 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" motherboard schematics and design information are proprietary" < 1239821853 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but you had to buy the screen separately < 1239821855 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was rather small < 1239821858 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" motherboard schematics and design information are proprietary" < 1239821863 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :solved it ais523 < 1239821870 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :8:23 < 1239821875 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: strange, because schematics were available < 1239821878 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well done < 1239821887 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: only once you bought it, I guess < 1239821895 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, they were on one of their websites < 1239821902 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is there were both gumstix.com and gumstix.org < 1239821909 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this is for a Very Insane Project < 1239821909 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :which were run by the same company, but seemed to be competing anyway < 1239821917 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all sorts of other weird inconsistencies < 1239821931 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it isn't hard really, you just need to plan ahead so the game doesn't become unfinishable. < 1239821944 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I'm doubting myself, even < 1239821945 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and be careful so you don't hit it the wrong way < 1239821964 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, totally superfluous < 1239821973 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have zero need for it < 1239821984 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, one site would often say something was unavailable, and the other would have it < 1239821985 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1239821993 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, are blocks random in 9? < 1239821996 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were also two contradictory and entirely different ways of how to build the things < 1239822000 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, is it really always finishable? < 1239822001 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yep, random oxyds < 1239822003 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it is < 1239822005 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1239822023 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so, would you recommend these stix of gum < 1239822023 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I said earlier, fl-acwhite doesn't completely stop black marbles < 1239822037 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: not really, especially if you don't live in the US < 1239822049 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: darn < 1239822050 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do arrive eventually, and they do work for a while < 1239822051 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would you recommend instead < 1239822062 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, apparently blackfin's a major competitor to them < 1239822075 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I haven't heard anything bad about them, but I've never used them either < 1239822076 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be worth looking into < 1239822088 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it depends on what I'm doing < 1239822090 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1239822098 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, 09 is one of those levels where you miss "restore to previous snapshot" often found in zsnes and other such emulators. ;) < 1239822115 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackfin doesn't seem "complete" < 1239822120 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: run it in easy mode, then < 1239822121 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much do gumstix cost < 1239822122 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : as I said earlier, fl-acwhite doesn't completely stop black marbles <-- really? < 1239822137 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, they have zero mouseforce, but not infinite friction < 1239822145 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :go into that floor fast enough, and you come out the other side < 1239822155 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you know? < 1239822155 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just basic Enigma knowledge, how did you not know that? < 1239822159 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I did once < 1239822161 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I've forgotten < 1239822166 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may be able to find my old notes, though < 1239822168 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: guess he doesn't know how it works internally < 1239822170 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like emacs! < 1239822171 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hur hur hur < 1239822180 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: have you ever read the Enigma manual? < 1239822188 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should, half the game is a lot easier if you know how it works < 1239822196 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes, when I first tried it < 1239822204 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't much of a manual iirc. < 1239822210 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes it was ages ago < 1239822224 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you should at least know from experimentation that no floor stops you instantly < 1239822237 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :engima 0.90 or something like that, maybe 0.92 < 1239822256 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I usually go slow because I suck at mouse handling at high speed. < 1239822274 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes not instantly indeed. < 1239822296 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, anyway, that level, is it always possible to solve without going very fast? < 1239822301 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: my insane project would be "trying to make my own smartphone" < 1239822315 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why I wanted a tiny light board that can run linux & x11 < 1239822315 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'd say yes, moving the marble fast enough to go two squares at once is not "very fast" < 1239822327 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not certain how you hook the actual phoney phone stuff up < 1239822350 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what if you drop "very" then? < 1239822360 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easiest to do playing slowly < 1239822388 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, if you have the mouseforce set to a sane value rather than 2 or 3, you hardly need to move the mouse in order to skid two squares rather than one < 1239822423 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be very disappointing if you missed out on the 70% or 80% of Enigma levels which require the ability to move multiple squares at a time... < 1239822434 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what is the difference between easy and hard on that level apart from the first tile not being a different type compared to the rest of the floor? < 1239822445 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't one < 1239822447 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :except: < 1239822456 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the first tile is different, that means pressing f3 lets you go back to it < 1239822460 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you get three chances at the level < 1239822474 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the first tile isn't different, pressing f3 is fatal, because you'd just land back on a square you couldn't move on < 1239822476 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that makes sense < 1239822481 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's the difference between one chance and three chances < 1239822508 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.google.com/p/cadie/source/browse/trunk/CADIE.I <--- that's better < 1239822509 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1239822518 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1239822520 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you got commit access? < 1239822590 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1239822595 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: awesome < 1239822625 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to test J-INTERCAL on it < 1239822641 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok solved 09 < 1239822676 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: how fast, btw? < 1239822683 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :2:01 < 1239822695 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :on easy but didn't use f3 < 1239822704 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dododood < 1239822736 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and I was brute forcing randomness of the first two I hit (restarting level until they were same colour. I did end up needing to cross white once only < 1239822747 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so mostly by luck < 1239822834 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the name "tourism" made it rather clear what the level was about. So I wonder why ehird didn't manage to figure it out himself... < 1239822902 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure a bit of thought yes, but after noticing visited tiles were covered by marble passable tiles, the correct solution was the only one left. < 1239822923 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: maybe ehird's never heard of the Knight's Tour? < 1239822942 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well that could explain it indeed. < 1239822945 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well,* < 1239822988 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1239823011 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, how are those intelligence, dexterity, speed, ... ratings made? < 1239823019 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a unicorn < 1239823022 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it decides all the rating < 1239823022 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1239823027 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just ask it < 1239823030 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it gives them the ratings < 1239823035 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very helpful that unicorn < 1239823044 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: they're determined by the maintainers and public opinion, I think < 1239823052 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are relatively objective guidelines for deciding the < 1239823053 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah < 1239823054 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :*them < 1239823169 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, do you like the level "In Sync" (enigma III #83)? < 1239823236 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1239823247 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and another question: What exactly do the knowledge rating mean. Knowledge of game mechanics? Knowledge of how to solve the level (requiring trial and error to figure out right way)? Or something else? < 1239823255 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :knowledge of game mechanics < 1239823264 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :knowledge is completely objective, and depends on just which mechanics are in your level < 1239823265 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rather liked In Sync
< 1239823274 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the best one, but rather interesting < 1239823314 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :so something like my 09, or III/26, has knowledge 6 due to having unique mechanics of its own < 1239823326 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :knowledge 5 means you're exploiting really obscure behaviour of the core < 1239823333 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :like spring over laser, or chess stone on swamp < 1239823354 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does chess stone on swap do? < 1239823373 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder where you can buy touchscreens < 1239823410 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: sinks gradually < 1239823434 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :knowledge 4 is for obscure or misleading things that don't involve interactions, like fake abyss or coffee stones < 1239823443 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ok that isn't too surprising, considering that is what marbles do too < 1239823457 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 is the typical knowledge level, the advanced tutorial hits most of the limits of knowledge 3 < 1239823467 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :coffee stone? I thought it was an object < 1239823469 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 is only for really obvious things, like death stones < 1239823473 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's an item and a stone < 1239823483 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh ok < 1239823484 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :coffee stones are opaque and fixed, but turn transparent and movable if you hit them < 1239823492 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and both states are disguised as something else < 1239823497 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if they were ever used < 1239823498 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know? < 1239823498 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:31 < ais523> instead of naming the new module after him, they went and called their newest treadmill the Combined Operational Load Bearing External Resistance Treadmill < 1239823506 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, why are they named coffee stones? < 1239823513 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I don't know < 1239823519 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if he had just had a name ending with M, he'd have been all set < 1239823533 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colbertum < 1239823615 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrrrrrrrrrm < 1239823655 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12:31 < ais523> instead of naming the new module after him, they went and called their newest treadmill the Combined Operational Load Bearing External Resistance Treadmill <-- context? it doesn't seem to be from 12:31 today (Checked Norwegian timezone and UTC) < 1239823698 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: kerlo's logs, see topic < 1239823708 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*aka ihope < 1239823721 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, but which timezone is it? < 1239823726 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: u s of a < 1239823736 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like clog's < 1239823741 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mayitrestinpeace) < 1239823749 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, US west cost and east cost are in different timezones < 1239823756 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :w/e < 1239823758 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why is clog down? < 1239823760 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats AnMaster -----###
< 1239823763 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it is, AnMaster < 1239823778 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd contact the server admin, only I don't know who that is. < 1239823782 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll ask #tunes < 1239823789 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :translated: reason unknown? < 1239823807 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it crashed and nobody restarted it < 1239823816 0 :neldoreth!n=user@unixboard/users/neldoreth JOIN :#esoteric < 1239823838 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : ah, NASA came up with an interesting solution to the whole Colbert thing <-- so what is this Colbert thing then. < 1239823850 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :context didn't really explain it in this case to me. < 1239823864 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1239823867 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: just give it up < 1239823868 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not important < 1239823876 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr people voted Colbert, as in stephen colbert < 1239823880 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the name of a new nasa module < 1239823881 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-81-95.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing is that Colbert is trying to name everything after him < 1239823888 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nasa didn't like that, because colbert does this all the time < 1239823893 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they got around it with an acronym < 1239823904 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um that's not getting around it < 1239823913 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it is :P < 1239823916 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that thing < 1239823919 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd probably have made a backronym regardless, don't you think < 1239823926 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: if you want to ask who stephen colbert is, google.com < 1239823927 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "tl;dr"? < 1239823937 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone said that it was Colbert's job to exploit bugs in buggy public processes < 1239823938 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: for "Glider" or "Elegance" or whatever they were offering? < 1239823938 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :naw. < 1239823945 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hits AnMaster with the saucepan ====\___/
< 1239823949 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric : too lazy; didn't google < 1239823950 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the name does sound familiar.. hm... Comedy central or something iirc? < 1239823956 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes. < 1239823960 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :colbert report. satirical news show. < 1239824016 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw did you notice/did anyone paste here the reddit about the Times' top 100 list voting? < 1239824017 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : too lazy; didn't google <-- from when would that be? < 1239824026 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*reddited link < 1239824030 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: when you asked what "tl;dr" meant < 1239824035 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, *Time < 1239824113 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, You were quoting me saying that. Did I ever say it? I don't think so. But if you could provide timestamp? < 1239824123 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Whoooooooooosh! < 1239824125 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH! < 1239824128 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1239824144 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-143-134.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh !!! < 1239824168 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I guess that translates to that I never said it indeed. < 1239824204 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1883644_1886141,00.html < 1239824214 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha: someone on Reddit said that the easy way to get Reddit markdown working properly was to go over to stackoverflow and preview the comment there, then copy the markdown back to reddit and paste it < 1239824252 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so reddit doesn't have a preview function? < 1239824261 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not, based on that < 1239824268 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I don't have a username < 1239824268 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hint, look at the initial letters) < 1239824279 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit people go on about how it has a low barrier to entry, but it's higher than Slashdot's or Wikipedia's < 1239824282 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also requires JS < 1239824286 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1 moot < 1239824289 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh 4chan <3 < 1239824329 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :marblecakealsothegame < 1239824332 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1239824390 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh they have a video < 1239824500 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1883644_1889408_1889412,00.html < 1239824505 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOOT VS RAIN < 1239824508 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WEATHER, OR PERSON? < 1239824510 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU DECIDE. < 1239824563 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1239824655 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the sad smiley? < 1239824685 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: know any common small screen sizes? < 1239824694 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :resolutions < 1239824696 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1239824701 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :MARBLECAKEALSOTHEGAME < 1239824703 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a huge "page requires flash" < 1239824711 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I wonder why that may be. < 1239824720 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me think. Oh, I know. < 1239824720 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, sorry. < 1239824723 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 320*240 is /very/ common < 1239824723 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's because it requires flash. < 1239824729 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :both for http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1883644_1889408_1889412,00.html and http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1883644_1886141,00.html < 1239824739 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's a bit square for a candybar-style phone < 1239824753 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: If you enabled Flash, you'd get a video. If not, your loss. < 1239824774 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ah, yes, phone screens are generally even smaller < 1239824791 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nah, not touchscreens < 1239824809 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the iphone is 480x320 @ 3.5i < 1239824814 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in < 1239824834 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the G1 is the same res @ 3.2in < 1239824846 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess 480x320 is the done thing < 1239824855 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :swap those for horizontal mode ofc < 1239824861 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, btw, had you never heard of knight's tour before ais mentioned it today? < 1239824870 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it rings a bell < 1239824882 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1239824907 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :then odd you couldn't figure out that Tourism level... < 1239824927 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1239825032 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder how much a 3.x in 480x320 touchscreen costs. < 1239825193 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, the Time acrostic ordering... blows my mind.. >_> < 1239825247 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is XP antivirus 2009 compatible with Vista? < 1239825247 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a new computer running windows Vista but I already paid for XP antivirus 2009 on my old computer.Will I be able to transfer it to my new one or is only compatible with windows XP? < 1239825249 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 months ago < 1239825251 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Additional Details < 1239825253 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have paid $50 for that program and I'm going to use it if I can. < 1239825255 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 months ago < 1239825257 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you also give me the link to re download it because they didn't send me a CD < 1239825259 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 months ago < 1239825261 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :please help me I google it but all I can find is remove instructions not the likn to download it. help I'm losing my $50 < 1239825264 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 months ago < 1239825266 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081130123314AAe3klv < 1239825293 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :were there any sensible answers? < 1239825301 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: all of them < 1239825303 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the asker didn't listen < 1239825304 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Well,since you insist to use it,yes all trojan and viruses are compatible with all windows platforms." < 1239825311 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :factually false, amusingly < 1239825317 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. < 1239825318 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but close enough < 1239825326 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I'd like to see some 64-bit viruses! < 1239825333 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm slightly surprised that was chosen as best < 1239825339 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: I'm sure there are some by now, surely? < 1239825344 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it said it was compatible, see the author's note < 1239825347 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is "help" < 1239825348 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vista x64 is probably a bigger install base than Linux < 1239825355 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, possibly. It is a reasonable market < 1239825364 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well.. for PCs anyway < 1239825372 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I mean on desktop computers < 1239825372 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:54 slava has joined (n=slava@li13-154.members.linode.com) < 1239825372 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:54 slava: any news about clog? < 1239825388 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even Slava Pestov is hurt by the drastic clog outage! < 1239825437 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's slava? < 1239825460 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Slava Pestov, author of jedit and the Factor stack language < 1239825502 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1239825517 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know any free-as-in-tibet non-dejavu/bitstream-vera fonts? < 1239825519 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I would give Tourism a rating of 10 btw. :) < 1239825547 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you mean you liked it? < 1239825552 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1239825561 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, do you plan to submit these levels for inclusion in future engima versions? < 1239825568 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if that is how it works?) < 1239825600 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: maybe some of them; I haven't looked up the process < 1239825624 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... http://www.nongnu.org/enigma/ < 1239825627 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting domain name < 1239825631 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you mean a font that isn't really a subset of CJK, but which will have you beaten up by the chinese if you claim so? < 1239825632 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I vaguely recognise < 1239825649 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :-) < 1239825656 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Svannah. < 1239825659 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Savannah. < 1239825666 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A shit sourceforge ripoff started because sf wasn't open soucre < 1239825670 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*source < 1239825675 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has many qualities, including being shit. < 1239825700 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excreme programming < 1239825835 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Eliezer fancies himself as a thinker for the morality of the future, but his vision of morality is the ancient rotting cadaver of collectivist egalitarian altruistic utilitarianism, as inculcated to him by his judeo-christian upbringing (judeo in this case)." — François-René Rideau, founder of the TUNES project < 1239825838 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have only a few words < 1239825842 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT < 1239825877 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION guesses rideau is a libertarian
< 1239825883 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: very. < 1239825890 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i vaguely recall too < 1239825896 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIIIIIIIINCULATED < 1239825899 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, inculcated < 1239825903 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many cs. < 1239825944 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically rideau doesn't understand that if a AGI were libertarian, we would ALL DIE < 1239825965 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Amended General Idiot? < 1239825976 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :artificial general intelligence < 1239825982 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*an < 1239825987 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course < 1239826016 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe yudkowsky uses that term < 1239826023 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Eliezer is brilliant but I agree he is not selfish enough. Good job taking him on." < 1239826029 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you can't have any sweets. < 1239826033 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I'm not going to eat them < 1239826034 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*push* < 1239826038 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't push you. < 1239826045 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he started it! < 1239826112 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose one _could_ create an AGI to enforce libertarianism, though. < 1239826155 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb. < 1239826157 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know enough about libertarianism to know if that would be truly paradoxical < 1239826206 0 :Dewi!n=dewi@124-171-158-195.dyn.iinet.net.au QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1239826263 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders the possibility that maybe he is the only person in the universe. not because of solipsism, but because i once was a selfish libertarian creating an AI
< 1239826302 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually no, i would have had to be a masochist too < 1239826539 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that would be really quite interesting < 1239826546 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever considered that you may be a simulation of yourself? < 1239826563 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, of someone who exists, and in fact programmed you to be the same as them? < 1239826570 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um wait, recursively? < 1239826838 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i could be the same as anyone who _would_ do such a thing < 1239826863 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :re the masochist part < 1239826889 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless of course my morals go strongly downhill in the future < 1239826897 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha: http://www.mag-heut.net/blackball/index.php?act=ST&f=9&t=1131&s=85d3bb14b8ff01e0ef75f19c7206463d < 1239827212 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:24 < ais523> as Google says, INTERCAL has become best known for a feature that wasn't even in the original < 1239827220 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit like haskell and monads < 1239827228 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, they weren't in original haskell? < 1239827230 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did it do I/O? < 1239827243 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, it used command streams < 1239827271 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a continuation library wrapping it for sanity, i think < 1239827315 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a program was a function that took a stream of results as input and returned a stream of requests < 1239827330 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and yes, that's not swapped) < 1239827363 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@tavi.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't it just main :: [String] -> String -> String originally < 1239827370 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :using the underlying streams directly had frequent deadlock problems < 1239827372 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@tavi.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. args -> stdin -> stdout < 1239827382 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's brilliant, it's the solution Thutu uses to the same problem < 1239827383 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: no < 1239827400 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :the interesting thing about Thutu using that solution, of course, is that as a strict language there's an utterly obvious solution but it didn't use it < 1239827401 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@tavi.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, wonder where I got that from < 1239827421 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: the interact function does that today < 1239827427 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@tavi.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know < 1239827430 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@tavi.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minus the command line args < 1239827437 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@tavi.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course) < 1239827439 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that can only do a single stdin -> stdout < 1239827453 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@tavi.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I don't think there's an hInteract < 1239827482 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: well you can obviously build one with hGetContents < 1239827493 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@tavi.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, the primitives are all there < 1239827529 0 :neldoret1!n=user@81-223-127-237.stpeter.xdsl-line.inode.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1239827553 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless there was a haskell version that couldn't do file IO at all < 1239827707 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@tavi.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there was < 1239827715 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@tavi.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's possible I'm wrong < 1239827737 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION found http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~dons/haskell-1990-2006/msg01089.html but that's too late
< 1239827756 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although historically interesting < 1239827878 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@tavi.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Thus in the Haskell 1.0 Report, we first defined I/O in terms of streams, but also included a completely equivalent design based on continuations." < 1239827943 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, i just found that myself < 1239827949 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@tavi.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/simonpj/papers/history-of-haskell/) < 1239828528 0 :neldoreth!n=user@unixboard/users/neldoreth QUIT :No route to host < 1239828694 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... it seems that the way for a website owner to opt out of Phorm is to block Google and Yahoo in their robots.txt < 1239828703 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't exactly call that a sensible way to opt-out... < 1239828715 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, their opt-out code is exactly the same code that blocks google and yahoo < 1239829571 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah, good ol Phorm. < 1239829572 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not. < 1239829591 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION switching to an isp whose co-founder has explicitly referenced phorm negatively on a mailing list :P
< 1239829606 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION spent some time sending abuse@ emails today. Got sick of all spam.
< 1239829621 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: congrats, you wasted a bunch of time. < 1239829623 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well spambots, not email spam. < 1239829635 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :even more amusingly, it's not just looking at * rules < 1239829636 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I do know the ip it came from < 1239829644 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :but specifically for Googlebot and Slurp if there isn't a * rule < 1239829661 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :their reasoning, apparently, is that a website owner is happy with their data being harvested if they're letting search engines look at it < 1239829664 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you can't fake that when connecting to irc and the server is set up to require a matching PONG before allowing connection. < 1239829747 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, even if you opt-out as a visitor (using cookies), every single web page request you make is redirected twice < 1239829753 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be up to three times if you don't opt out < 1239829772 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, one of the IPs seems to be allocated to cogent themselves. I somehow suspect they won't take that lightly if one of their own computers is infected. < 1239829783 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I have some hopes of results in that case. < 1239829804 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you gaping chasm reality < 1239829812 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people do care about abuse@ < 1239829828 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, sufficiently few people bother to try it nowadays that I wouldn't be surprised if large ISPs could handle the load easily < 1239829858 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I would assume it since it is listed as allocated to Cogent Communications directly. Their main office specifically. < 1239829871 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I highly doubt it's true AnMaster < 1239829890 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Are you saying the whois result is faked? < 1239829895 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the IP I mean < 1239829905 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm saying I doubt a cogent hq system is spamming < 1239829919 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I think it was an automated trojan software < 1239829934 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering there were loads with the same message from many different IPs and ISPs < 1239829940 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to a manual trojan, AnMaster? < 1239829954 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, as opposed to a single person typing it manually < 1239829955 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please POST to this address with this contents: 'cheap viagra'" < 1239829959 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shit < 1239830067 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? < 1239830077 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I interpret that POST as referring to snail mail, not the HTTP request < 1239830083 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's pretty WTFy both ways < 1239830123 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was spambots spamming download links containing trojans, nothing about viagra there. < 1239830325 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and why do people not use abuse@ more often I wonder. < 1239830365 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: because abuse@ is based on the way the Internet is meant to work, not on the way it does work < 1239830396 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well true, some whois replies list other emails such as anti_spam@ instead. < 1239830407 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you're missing the point < 1239830419 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure if there's any way to explain what the point is to you, though < 1239830420 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, probably, but remember I'm an idealist(sp?) < 1239830423 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case < 1239830425 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:18 AnMaster: ais523, and why do people not use abuse@ more often I wonder. < 1239830425 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:19 ais523: AnMaster: because abuse@ is based on the way the Internet is meant to work, not on the way it does work < 1239830428 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:19 AnMaster: ais523, well true, some whois replies list other emails such as anti_spam@ instead. < 1239830431 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1239830436 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the most concise description of AnMaster yet < 1239830471 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you mean that most people simply gave up because the ISPs didn't care? < 1239830487 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that I < 1239830489 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess* < 1239830491 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, and the sheer volume of abuse@ things which would have to be sent < 1239830511 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :think about it this way: something like 90% of email is spam < 1239830529 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well indeed, and then there is spambots on irc too (which this case was about) < 1239830538 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that if each spam had a corresponding abuse@, then email would be 9:9:1 spam:abuse:legitimate < 1239830539 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on IM and so on < 1239830546 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody could handle that workload < 1239830563 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, probably a lot would be for the same IP though < 1239830571 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or sender < 1239830626 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, anyway the largest issue is faked senders for email. An issue which doesn't exist when figuring out the IPs for spambots on irc. Or the registrar of the domain they spammed (which contained a trojan) < 1239830724 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :New features in this release include: < 1239830725 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric : * Ported to all major Lisp systems < 1239830727 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1239830731 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yale haskell was written in lisp < 1239830734 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :circa 1993 < 1239830788 0 :neldoreth!n=user@unixboard/users/neldoreth JOIN :#esoteric < 1239830808 0 :neldoret1!n=user@81-223-127-237.stpeter.xdsl-line.inode.at QUIT :Client Quit < 1239830917 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-066-019.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1239830948 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To run this release, you need a Sun4 or Sun3, probably with 16+MB < 1239830948 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :memory, and GNU C (gcc), version 2.1 or greater, and "perl". < 1239831004 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sounds sane for an old software? < 1239831024 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders why ehird pasted that
< 1239831102 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems pretty old < 1239831103 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1239831112 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, requiring specifically a Sun? < 1239831123 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's /decades/ since people wrote the name of Perl in quotes < 1239831145 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well that was a bit strange, why would anyone use quotes for it < 1239831151 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :name of the executable < 1239831154 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "cat", or "grep" < 1239831186 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that doesn't really explain it though. Since it is the name of the software as well as the executable. < 1239831193 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought that would have been Perl < 1239831197 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, 1993 < 1239831203 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than "perl" < 1239831207 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"perl" it really sounds like they don't know what it is < 1239831214 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need this "perl" thing if you've heard of i < 1239831215 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1239831293 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* GHC provides an extensible I/O system, based on a "monad" [1]. (The < 1239831293 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric : standard Haskell I/O system is built on this foundation.) < 1239831302 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric : - Ability to write arbitrary in-line C-language code, using < 1239831302 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the I/O monad to retain referential transparency. < 1239831304 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WUT < 1239831322 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1239831332 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably you can write C code which will act as an I/O monad. < 1239831352 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I assume it was something like ghcMagicC :: String -> IO () < 1239831381 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never heard of it, but I was assuming it would be built into the grammar and that the C code could be * -> IO (*) < 1239831456 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Main shortcomings < 1239831456 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ < 1239831458 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* No interactive system. This is a batch compiler only. (Any < 1239831460 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric : volunteers?) < 1239831463 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[...] < 1239831464 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* This system should run on any Unix box. We haven't had time to do < 1239831466 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric : any non-Sun ports. Help or prodding welcome. < 1239831475 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1239831484 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a time machine < 1239831549 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mag-heut.net/blackball/index.php?act=ST&f=9&t=1131&s=85d3bb14b8ff01e0ef75f19c7206463d < 1239831562 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1239831564 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 linked it < 1239831569 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering where it came from < 1239831613 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm ... okay, so my message was quite obviously an April (or March) < 1239831614 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fool's Day joke, wasn't it? Of course there is no such bug as a timing < 1239831615 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :disaster in Enigma ... at least not yet! ;) < 1239831617 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame! < 1239831621 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i thought it was true :( < 1239831626 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :so did I, to start with < 1239831632 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a pretty good april fools bug report < 1239831639 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as it had a plausible reason for being on april 1 < 1239831639 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess because I'm the kind of person to implant that < 1239831669 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: heh, seen enigma VI #10? < 1239831717 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1239831721 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how it's done, though < 1239831774 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#15 is awesome < 1239831875 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1239831878 0 :neldoreth!n=user@unixboard/users/neldoreth QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1239831883 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it struck me as relatively clever, but mildly annoying < 1239831890 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc < 1239831905 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a fan of annoying levels < 1239831996 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what do you think of #35 < 1239832003 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think of oxyd #45? < 1239832005 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of my favourites < 1239832023 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: aieeeeeeeeee < 1239832035 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and #35, I haven't figured yet < 1239832037 0 :neldoreth!n=user@81-223-127-237.stpeter.xdsl-line.inode.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1239832044 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I suspect it involves an umbrella < 1239832108 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the aieee, anyway? < 1239832113 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a nice clever intelligence level < 1239832130 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I love apparently more or less symmetrical puzzles with very asymmetrical solutions < 1239832143 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird probably thinks it's acheived self-awareness < 1239832152 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*achieved < 1239832163 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird achieved self-awareness? < 1239832171 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be silly. < 1239832175 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1239832184 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no silly, the intelligence level < 1239832191 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://improveverywhere.com/2009/04/01/best-funeral-ever/ < 1239832242 0 :neldoreth!n=user@unixboard/users/neldoreth QUIT :Client Quit < 1239832335 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : what do you think of oxyd #45? <-- "Letter bomb"? < 1239832339 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1239832343 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no the other oxyd 45 < 1239832344 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries it
< 1239832393 0 :neldoreth!n=user@unixboard/users/neldoreth JOIN :#esoteric < 1239832394 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well it was a valid question because: #33: Oxyd 79 < 1239832407 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wut? < 1239832409 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there could have been a Oxyd 45 < 1239832411 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1239832417 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a different number < 1239832421 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I added the # < 1239832459 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, wasn't aware that was the reason for the # < 1239832509 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1239832715 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm.. about that letter bomb... Knowledge 5 I see < 1239832723 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have no idea about how it would work < 1239832736 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of thing in the game mechanics is it exploiting? < 1239832795 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :explosions destroy items < 1239832798 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pipes are an ite < 1239832799 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :*item < 1239832809 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 is for unusual interactoins between multiple items < 1239832813 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't think that one's used very often < 1239832826 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1239832834 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is explained in a document on the level, though, so that isn't even a spoiler < 1239832913 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :even so I don't see how this would help you reach any of the stones. < 1239832937 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, wooden block bridging over abyss is a very well known interaction < 1239832943 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1239832962 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but afaik you can't destroy walls with explosions < 1239832976 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can destroy black bomb dispensers with bomb explosions < 1239832988 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it an item? huh < 1239833412 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Categories: Joke languages | Implemented | Unimplemented | 2008" < 1239833433 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1239833434 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :link < 1239833451 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Schrodilang < 1239833468 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION groans
< 1239833484 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the only interpreter is supposedly at the bottom of a sea, it's hard to tell if it exists or not < 1239833490 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1239833493 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: no, it's the radioactive decay thing < 1239833500 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that s/cat/implementation floppy/ < 1239833503 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/poison/magnet/ < 1239833512 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :..ah < 1239833515 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I would have expected oerjan behind that < 1239833517 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be < 1239833524 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's hard to tell if it exists or not" indeed < 1239833524 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than GregorR < 1239833530 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{randomize|[[Category:Implemented]]|[[Category:Unimplemented]}} < 1239833530 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the whole point I think :P < 1239833531 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what the history tab says < 1239833553 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense, isn't Schrödlingers Cat an experiment about something being in multiple states at the same time? < 1239833565 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. interpreted and not interpreted at the same time < 1239833571 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1239833577 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: go google it before I whack you with a cluebat < 1239833579 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I don't think that would work, even if mediawiki had such a macro (does it?). Since it stores category list at edit time iirc. < 1239833586 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1239833634 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could add a blurb about the categorization of that page being in dispute since it is not possible to determine which state the language falls under < 1239833713 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:14 cristi_ceata: Cale: have you read "Yet another haskell tutorial"? < 1239833838 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :was there a stupid reply to that? < 1239833855 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you know who Cale is? < 1239833858 0 :Hiato!n=1@dsl-245-7-242.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1239833860 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1239833871 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he runs lambdabot :-) < 1239833878 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1239833883 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, /has/ he read yaht? < 1239833891 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's bloody well likely! :-P < 1239833893 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's entirely plausible you could get good at Haskell some other way < 1239833905 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, back then the only other tutorial was... gentle introduction? < 1239833907 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and never need to read a tutorial after that < 1239833911 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is useful to, uh, hardcore ML programmers. < 1239833915 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :there must have been at least two < 1239833918 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the name is incorrect < 1239833931 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it was implied in a sense of "do you know " < 1239834092 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks they should have sneaked in a c before that h
< 1239834234 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notices FireFly just deserved a swat -----###
< 1239834292 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: haha, wow, #tunes is full of info atm < 1239834302 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're disillusioned with how badly the server's been run... < 1239834303 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :No problem < 1239834305 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since BEFORE 2000! < 1239834342 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and still no one's managed to get clog back? < 1239834358 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he pinged hcf/nef, I told him it's not nef's responsibility any more, now he's pinging root < 1239834367 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who I guess is faré or someone < 1239834384 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I suppose he'll tell us to stop being collectivist pigs and capatalize a server < 1239834387 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*capitalize < 1239834426 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*OINK* < 1239834486 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:27 BrianRice: TUNES really doesn't matter as an OS, anyway. not without the higher level bits which require heavy duty CS research (which is slowly coming together)v < 1239834489 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION yawns
< 1239834527 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :the operating system needs heavy duty CS research before they can write it? < 1239834529 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is TUNES like? < 1239834541 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: very, very dissatisfied. < 1239834562 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, they were doing the high level language first < 1239834564 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then a low level language < 1239834566 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the OS < 1239834572 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was very, very comprehensive. < 1239834573 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders where the pun is
< 1239834590 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By 2005 it had become clear that we must leverage mainstream software to make TUNES a reality, imperfectly at first, so that we might benefit from immediate practical applications and real-world experience. A few years later, armed with better tools and experience, we can write a new compiler and operating system within TUNES, replacing the messy underpinnings of our imperfect prototype with a clean, manageable infrastructure that supports our highest as < 1239834592 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pirations. At least that's the plan! < 1239834603 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 2008 now. If a few dedidated hackers can find the time and money to put some sustained effort into it, we could have a working prototype by 2010, with widespread use by 2015 or 2020. < 1239834605 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we even know what the OS is going to be like? < 1239834612 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, they haven't decided yet. < 1239834618 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/they/we/; it's a community projet < 1239834620 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*project < 1239834623 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there ARE documents < 1239834648 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: lemme find the most explanatory ones < 1239834658 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, here's one from david madore of unlambda fam < 1239834658 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1239834659 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.madore.org/~david/computers/tunes.html < 1239834679 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme find Fare's original < 1239834685 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if tunes were thinking about basing it on an esolang? < 1239834691 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's why they were logging us < 1239834700 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://tunes.org/new/Review/cddb.html < 1239834718 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But though Far. is very good at explaining things orally (my humble opinion, of course), nothing he says is comprehensible when he starts writing things down (my humble opinion again, of course)." :D < 1239834741 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well http://tunes.org/new/Review/cddb.html is quite readable < 1239834840 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this conversation is fun < 1239834844 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're all calling faré kooks < 1239834947 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :several kooks? < 1239835021 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, somebody dug up Shrodilang. < 1239835025 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember making that :P < 1239835033 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :No problem~ < 1239835039 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: we will dissect you and extract knowledge of the language from your brain < 1239835089 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking to brian rice and slava pestov at once is rather fun. < 1239835089 0 :Hiato!n=1@dsl-245-7-242.telkomadsl.co.za QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1239835134 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Talking to brain rice and slavic pasta at once is rather fun. < 1239835145 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very. < 1239835177 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1239835285 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-143-134.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :"PEW PEW" < 1239835346 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So. < 1239835529 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? < 1239835546 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is SO Tacoma way. < 1239835546 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO? < 1239835778 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :So! < 1239835862 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :So. < 1239835871 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... < 1239835878 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so? < 1239835883 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The. < 1239835905 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1239835920 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So. < 1239835924 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1239835927 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@dialup-4.88.162.249.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1239835929 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO. < 1239835932 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I'm getting tired < 1239835939 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :\SO < 1239835940 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :S O < 1239835956 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just make an Ook with So's < 1239835975 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can program while you chat, in real meme style < 1239835981 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sh! You'll wake the Oomoo! < 1239836551 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :"Leaving..." < 1239837452 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1239838138 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1239838852 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... it'd be cool having a lang which is good for team-coding < 1239838884 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, that's called BASIC < 1239838899 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it'd be cool having a lang with BASIC line numbering < 1239838903 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case < 1239839052 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :................ wtf. < 1239839062 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By what stretch of the imagination is line-numbering good for team coding? < 1239839072 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what GregorR said < 1239839146 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooh < 1239839155 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :real number line numbering! < 1239839165 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1239839214 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1239839235 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preferably only numbers between 0 and 1, upper-exclusive. < 1239839323 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION plays with maxmsp
< 1239839752 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :max msp is... a graph language. cool.