< 1239408001 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: did I get the wrong name < 1239408008 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, you linked to the page I cared about < 1239408013 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic: the Esolang < 1239408013 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page title in other pages or edit this page. < 1239408014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1239408015 0 :neldoreth|lp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1239408022 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1239408024 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Magic_The_Gathering_card_deck_of_programming_language < 1239408027 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was it < 1239408048 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fibonacci was rather hard to write, and I/O would be an utter pain < 1239408051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 wrote that < 1239408051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1239408073 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 started it, I think I wrote the program though and someone else (maybe zzo38?) corrected it < 1239408086 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What order is the deck in < 1239408098 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the card listed first is first in the deck < 1239408105 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The deck is in the order given and is not shuffled at start of the game < 1239408116 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: If you really care at all, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic:_The_Gathering_rules <-- I fail to see enough citations from different sources on it indeed < 1239408117 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright < 1239408123 0 :neldoreth|lp!n=user@77.119.93.97.wireless.dyn.drei.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1239408132 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I browsed it over and it looks correct < 1239408135 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1239408140 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see thing at top though < 1239408143 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: If you want the official source instead, http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Article.aspx?x=magic/rules < 1239408160 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well of course it relies on a single source < 1239408163 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It relies on the game's rules < 1239408164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is clearly a reverse a pyramid scheme < 1239408178 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cleanup I agree with, but single-source is just stupid < 1239408196 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, it is a single source though < 1239408200 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: a good description < 1239408208 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yes, but it's stupid that it's a problem < 1239408219 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: the point is, if there's only a single source, why should it be in Wikipedia in the first place? you could just go to the source instead < 1239408230 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, as in manufacture wants everyone to buy more and more cars, and everyone has to, to be able to play at all. < 1239408246 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, Wizards have to make their money somehow < 1239408247 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So if something is described in only one place it is inherently unencyclopedic? < 1239408255 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally I don't mind as long as they keep making good cards, but IMO they stopped < 1239408261 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they may start again some time < 1239408269 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, IMO a fair games needs everyone to start with a fair distribution of the cards. like shuffling cards then dealing them < 1239408270 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or such < 1239408275 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while this... < 1239408276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Uh... you mean, they sell the game, to make profit? < 1239408279 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: pretty mcuh, encyclopedias summarize knowledge, what could they do but copy the source? < 1239408280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOLY FUCK ON A POGO STICK! < 1239408283 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: They are shuffled < 1239408283 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PYRAMID SCHEME! < 1239408286 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: They summarize < 1239408308 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Everything comes from only one source originally anyway < 1239408322 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, sure, but you said everyone had his own cards. You don't deal cards from the same stack as the opponent < 1239408328 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except in the rare case of the same thing being independently invented in two different places < 1239408328 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's just a different kind of game, not in any way more fair. < 1239408338 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only buy the cards when playing a limited tournament < 1239408343 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, it depends on how many cards you bought < 1239408345 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the decks wouldn't work correctly if you mixed them, people try to pick subsets of cards that work well with each other < 1239408357 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, maybe but still < 1239408357 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's as much about building a good deck as it is about the playing, well, at least approximately < 1239408364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i hate that argument < 1239408366 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yes, that just adds a new element (the main element?) of strategy to the game: your deck has to be built well, it's not enough that you can play well < 1239408376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"" "" "ok BUT STILL [even though I have no argument left]" < 1239408387 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You still make a deck in limited, only in limited you are limited to the cards they give to you and it doesn't matter how rich you are. < 1239408389 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I'd say it's the main strategy actually < 1239408399 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, so you have keeping to buy more and more to be able to play < 1239408401 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1239408408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you're being a fool < 1239408411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just fyi < 1239408414 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, that's how Wizard's make their money < 1239408415 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, you don't have to throw your cards away after playing once < 1239408426 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Wizards < 1239408428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: what if they get moldy?! < 1239408435 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they tried it with D&D too, which is a disaster IMO < 1239408438 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Only in constructed! In limited you only have to buy the cards as part of the entrance fee, other cards you own cannot be used in limited < 1239408451 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you want to keep on playing in tournaments then yes, you need to buy new cards since new sets of cards appear every now and then < 1239408462 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes and that is silly for a game like this IMO. There is no "Poker Sixth Edition" < 1239408467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1239408469 0 :neldoreth|lp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1239408474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a good thing magic is nothing like poker < 1239408476 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it is a much older game < 1239408477 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's not about putting the best m&g cards in your deck, it's about having cards, then deciding on a good subset of them for a deck < 1239408478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise your argument would make one iota of sense! < 1239408484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good save < 1239408489 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I play D&D 3.5 edition still, 4E is not real D&D in my opinion. I am a good defensive player at D&D < 1239408499 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3E is not real IMO :-P < 1239408504 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/:/;/ < 1239408506 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, anyone play Nethack, or Pokemon, or Harry Potter TCG? :-P < 1239408513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic, I play nethack < 1239408514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to have pokemon cards < 1239408519 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nethack TCG? < 1239408521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I gave them away in FOOLISH CHILDISH PIQUE < 1239408526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Y E S < 1239408527 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, no idea about that < 1239408534 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is nethack tcg though < 1239408534 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I mean Netrunner ;-) < 1239408535 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: M A K E I T N O W < 1239408548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: nethack trading card game. < 1239408551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which should be made. < 1239408553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this instance. < 1239408553 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a deck of Jyhad but that's it < 1239408554 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1239408556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*instant < 1239408559 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have played pokemon card, sometimes (rarely) I still do, against my brother (I borrow some of his cards and use those to make a deck) < 1239408559 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a trading card game < 1239408565 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wondering... < 1239408567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ... lol!!! < 1239408575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how have you been carrying this conversation ... < 1239408575 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, seriously < 1239408577 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, nethack TCG, someone really should make that < 1239408580 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectible_card_game < 1239408589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Magic is a trading card game < 1239408592 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1239408595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is pokémon, etc < 1239408604 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not Poker, etc. < 1239408606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i know! < 1239408610 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, there are so few nethack releases you can't really make any upgrades < 1239408620 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure you can < 1239408622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, there are enough < 1239408625 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's so much content in Nethack < 1239408631 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't matter, TCG people just model more of the game < 1239408632 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to release cards for all at once < 1239408641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the mailer daemon would b < 1239408641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1239408649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Go and check your postbox" < 1239408658 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decide on rules first before thinking about cards :-P < 1239408663 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shush you :-D < 1239408671 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prefers the real nethack game < 1239408674 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't invent TCG. I invent PCG (Printable Card Game), which is like TCG with all the capitalism thrown out. So you cannot purchase cards, you have to print them yourself and mix them and then play some limited style (such as a booster pack draft, etc) < 1239408686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: stop it, you'll get AnMaster excited. < 1239408692 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that sounds a lot more boring < 1239408695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't invent TCG. I invent PCG (Printable Card Game), which is like TCG with all the capitalism thrown out. <-- sounds like a good idea. < 1239408699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? < 1239408703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a voice of reason in here! < 1239408703 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Same thing as TCG, just that no centralized authority sells the cards. < 1239408707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for once < 1239408709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we get to hear from AnMaster about how evil charging money for anything is < 1239408715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SNOOZEFEST ACTIVATE < 1239408739 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If such a PCG existed there'd be a market for the cards rather quickly, I suspect. < 1239408739 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me the most thrilling part of playing m&g was probably buying a random deck and then looking through it to see what i got... < 1239408741 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it isn't evil to charge money... it makes sense, just no for certain things < 1239408748 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's only a matter of time before somebody sets up shop. < 1239408751 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes sense for say, food, hardware or lots of other things < 1239408752 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or paper < 1239408758 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you could just print a good deck for yourself, it'd lose all the excitement < 1239408759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :charging money for cards is probably one of the most reasonable applications of capitalism < 1239408762 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Charging money for things is not evil, obviously you have to earn the money, but being greedy to earn money is the evil < 1239408784 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but NOT software, or reverse pyramid scheme < 1239408792 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: "if you could just print a good..." not if you are playing limited! < 1239408800 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not sure how TCGs imply greediness; a lot of R&D goes into MtG, you have to pay the people < 1239408809 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what does that mean? < 1239408811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: SELLING TCG CARDS IS NOT A REVERSE PYRAMID SCHEME! THEY'RE NOT EVEN RELATED! STOP BULLSHITTING :| < 1239408823 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Meh, I mostly enjoy coming up with a deck idea and then trying variations to see if it works out < 1239408825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: do you even KNOW what a pyramid scheme IS? look it up!! < 1239408825 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, AnMaster: a good description < 1239408831 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, he agreed with me < 1239408831 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I considered making a PCG based on Corewar, but I could figure out decent mechanics without losing the spirit of Corewar < 1239408835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: nice argument to authority < 1239408837 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes I know what one is < 1239408838 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there is nothing wrong with charging money for cards. Just the PCG idea means you do not have to buy the cards if you don't want to, you can make your own card, print them yourself, or whatever, but you still might want to purchase them instead if that makes the cards a better quality. < 1239408840 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: sure, but i was never a good player :) < 1239408841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately those are invalid too < 1239408841 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is why I compared it < 1239408842 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, I'm authority now? < 1239408855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's an argument-to-authority regardless of your status < 1239408861 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I know what a pyramid scheme is, otherwise I wouldn't have compared it with one. < 1239408863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"someone else said this, QED." < 1239408868 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: So the difference is essentially only that the official rules allow proxies? < 1239408869 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i guess i liked that collecting part more than the playing part. < 1239408871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, shouting just makes you look stupid though. < 1239408874 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the < 1239408883 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: For me it's exactly the opposite :-) < 1239408891 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily, the cards have nice art on, most of the commons are probably worth it even if you don't play < 1239408908 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like the new art, it's too cartoony < 1239408912 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, well < 1239408915 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The new art as of 5-6 years ago < 1239408946 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Well, sort of. Also it would be with freedom, you can agree to play with cards you invented yourself, other people can sell other cards for the same game (their own cards) which people can then make as many copies as they want, on paper or on internet, and people can agree which cards are allowed < 1239408956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard of people who still play D&D by the original rules. Now that sounds like a great idea. < 1239408986 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 3e and 4e are independent games, and both are popular < 1239408988 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Alright, I see. < 1239408992 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay for open source roleplaying games < 1239408992 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, basically PCG is just what TCG would be as if it were a Free Software/Open Source project. < 1239408993 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 is the new one? < 1239408999 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1239409002 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, agreed. < 1239409006 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's unconnected to 3 instead of the name < 1239409014 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer it over 3 even though i haven't really played either. < 1239409017 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 was open-sourced, so various of Wizard's competitors are continuing it under a different name < 1239409018 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like 3 is unconnected to 2 < 1239409021 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OGL, IIRC < 1239409025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, "instead of the name" < 1239409025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1239409027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1239409032 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started inventing my own rules for RPG game also called Icosahedral (find it on LiMaWiki) but it isn't finished yet. If you don't understand arcane magic, just be a fighter. < 1239409035 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some typo < 1239409035 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant "except the name" < 1239409037 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: As in, only the name is the same < 1239409039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1239409042 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got this opinion from descriptions of why 4 is worse than 3. < 1239409044 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that explains it :) < 1239409079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" If you don't understand arcane magic, just be a fighter." < 1239409079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QOTD < 1239409103 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4E is not necessarily a bad game, but it is a bad D&D game, it is a bad role-playing game. I still prefer 3.5E and so does everyone in the group I play with. We also play without miniatures < 1239409104 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is well over 2 so I'm going to sleep at this point < 1239409109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm forced to agree with you on this QOTD < 1239409123 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 is a roleplaying game, 4 is a computer game in pencil-and-paper form < 1239409127 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: oh is it south park time already? :D < 1239409132 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION opens ep! < 1239409140 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :opens ep heh < 1239409141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: has anyone computerized 4? < 1239409142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it'll be good < 1239409164 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: words you use 10 times a day tend to get shorter < 1239409165 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Wizards did, sort of, but it was buggy and you had to play a monthly fee < 1239409175 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ep? < 1239409179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: EPisode < 1239409189 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I use "the" much more than 10 times a day and it hasn't shortened to "th" yet < 1239409189 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :implicit: [of south park] < 1239409194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from: 00:18 oklopol: Deewiant: oh is it south park time already? :D < 1239409197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: rly? ur od < 1239409264 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, i don't really think of "the" as a word in that sense, i mean it's just sentence structure. < 1239409274 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and episode is something you have in your mind when using the word < 1239409283 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you actively realize your using it < 1239409287 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well dunno < 1239409288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you're < 1239409289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you're < 1239409290 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you're < 1239409291 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1239409292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you're < 1239409294 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alskjtf < 1239409294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :**YOUR ALERT** < 1239409296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CODE RED < 1239409299 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1239409302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVACUATION PROCEDURE ENABLED < 1239409304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ EMPTY THE BUILDING } < 1239409306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOTHING TO SEE HERE < 1239409308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP < 1239409310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sirens* < 1239409314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKLOPOL MISTAKE CLASS 3 < 1239409317 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i have become a complete failure today. < 1239409321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE SITUATION IS UNDER CONTROL < 1239409323 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would the card called "Alpha" in Unplugged.mse-set do if it were tapped? I guess "Un-" cards do not have to have consistent rules. But "Unstate" is *not* a "Un-" card even though it has "Un" in its name. "Unstate" is a normal card, even though it is strange and something that Wizards would probably never print < 1239409324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYBODY COME BACK IN < 1239409326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION *sirens stop* < 1239409330 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first a 4, then two grammar mistakes < 1239409339 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::{ < 1239409350 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you can tell if it's an uncard by the border colour < 1239409357 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silver = uncard, black/white = normal card < 1239409364 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*your, anyway < 1239409368 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1239409373 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you're < 1239409374 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :black and white used to mean different things but Wizards kept getting the distinction wrong, so they eventually abandoned it < 1239409374 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1239409388 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the border color, they are all uncards. But the effect of these cards are not all the effects of uncards (some are, some aren't, and some have no effect at all) < 1239409393 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1239409437 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait uncard? < 1239409450 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cards made as jokes that can't be played in tournaments, but that you can buy anyway < 1239409453 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot wrap my brain around this new concept. < 1239409458 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1239409463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: now THAT'S capitalism! < 1239409467 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1239409474 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that one that when played forces another player to dance around the table 10 rounds < 1239409475 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them are rather funny, others aren't < 1239409475 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I love the uncards < 1239409480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why do people buy them < 1239409481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1239409484 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unglued and unhinged < 1239409492 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I've known people to draft them before now < 1239409493 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought some of those broken magic cards without realising :-( < 1239409497 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I haven't done myself < 1239409498 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some of these cards have non-uncard effects even though they certainly wouldn't be printed in a non-uncard set. By "non-uncard" I mean cards that the rules are not inconsistent and they do not require the use of special uncard rules either < 1239409503 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: cards like that? i've only seen a few < 1239409509 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you mean something less uncardy < 1239409513 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, if only the infinite mana card didn't require 15 mana to play < 1239409517 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what's forbidden < 1239409519 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: much of them work much like that < 1239409537 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i know about tournaments is they added the 60 card in the deck rule after machine gun was invented < 1239409551 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because tournaments became simply about who gets first turn < 1239409568 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because everyone had the same deck and won on first turn < 1239409570 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :machine gun? < 1239409587 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err yes a combination of 7 cards that does infinite damage < 1239409592 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1239409599 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A card based on something outside of the game, such as the age of the players, the day of the week, or time of day, is not a "non-uncard". Cards with fractions 1/2s and non-proper colors, inconsistent effect, are also not qualify as "non-uncard". But "Unstate" does count as a "non-uncard" in my opinion. < 1239409603 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unbounded damage < 1239409611 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unstate? < 1239409623 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you mean that there wasn't always a minimum-card-count rule? < 1239409628 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unstate is a card in Unplugged.mse-set (one of the two sets I made) < 1239409630 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that rule is there for obivous reasons < 1239409631 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, there are uncards with non-proper colors? < 1239409641 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: using uncards it's possible to generate pink mana < 1239409645 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, or i've been lied to < 1239409648 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that doesn't even involve any of zzo38's < 1239409668 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but uncards are allowed to use non-proper colors (for example, your eye colors, even if it isn't one of the colors of Magic). Non-uncards are not allowed to do this. < 1239409677 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you'd think the source would know, he gets invited to the finnish championships every year < 1239409693 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I'm not saying you're likely < 1239409695 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lying < 1239409704 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just I'm surprised that Mr. Garfield didn't think of it < 1239409728 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1239409732 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are enough cards in Magic that given a perfect draw, you can win on turn 1 without even spending mana < 1239409737 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a small number of cards you're on thin ice < 1239409742 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you lose when you run out of cards < 1239409743 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1239409758 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please read some of my Unplugged.mse-set and SuperUnplugged.mse-set I think you might be interested in a few of those cards. (You need to either have Magic Set Editor or to just unzip it as if it were a ZIP file and open the contained files in text editor) < 1239409777 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why not unzip it and cat together all the contained files? < 1239409785 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The minimum number of cards is 40 in limited, 60 in constructed < 1239409810 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Because some are picture files, some are text files, and the different files (even text files) might have different formats anyways < 1239409813 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think your set will be full of degenerate combos < 1239409826 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: then sort by the output of file first < 1239409842 0 :OoS!n=John@nat67.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1239409856 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OoS: nice nick. < 1239409868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: its impomatic < 1239409879 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still a nice nick, though < 1239409879 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: oh? < 1239409887 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OoS: sorry, mistake, i hate it < 1239409889 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION growls angrily at http://theorderofsticks.wordpress.com < 1239409893 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid unnick. < 1239409904 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: on another note, we really need to get BF Joust back up somehow < 1239409905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: ? < 1239409910 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the contract doesn't allow anyone but Goethe to modify it... < 1239409920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: just make a new one < 1239409921 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I can't do that, ais523! But I did do one thing, put the text in the file called Unplugged_set.txt in case you want to look at it (you won't see the pictures for some of the cards, though) < 1239409925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll code tomorrow, I guess < 1239409938 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"PEW PEW" < 1239409942 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, this person is slowly uploading OOTS comics, for no discernable reason, and ignoring what everyone is saying about copyright < 1239409961 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has Rich Burlew tried to sue him yet? < 1239409963 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or told him to stop? < 1239409979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: As an avowed pirate, I cannot possibly comment. (It's not like he's claiming them as their own.) < 1239410004 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION remembers to stop working on cocoding projects with ehird in case ehird tries to sneak copyvios into them < 1239410004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I will say nothing of the site owner's actual intentions; they are probably not too innocent.) < 1239410013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't do that. < 1239410024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I pirate for usage only :-P < 1239410025 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the person added "If you want see them already or see more visit http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots.html" to the Episode Guide.. < 1239410036 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"see them already"? < 1239410054 0 :OoS!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oos <> order of sticks < 1239410056 0 :OoS!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oos == origin of storms :-) < 1239410064 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my mind, the worst thing was the commenters who wanted to see the next episode.. apparently unaware of the real site < 1239410108 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1239410113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chaos (00:06:10) : < 1239410113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thief < 1239410113 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And apparently Rich Burlew's name is is Rich Burlews < 1239410114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : theorderofstick (08:51:41) : < 1239410116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got pemission of Rich < 1239410120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This, on the other hand, is obviously a lie. < 1239410141 0 :OoS!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's happening with BF Joust? < 1239410147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OoS: () < 1239410155 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goethe, the person in charge, ended the round and has now gone on a month-long break < 1239410160 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nobody else can restart it without eir help < 1239410164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is oos < 1239410169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: impomatic. < 1239410171 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: OoS = impomatic < 1239410176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively: < 1239410182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A person. A being. Someone on IRC. < 1239410183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone here. < 1239410184 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ososososososososososososo < 1239410192 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is LITERALLY no point to theorderofsticks < 1239410193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone probably interested in esolangs; what more do you want? < 1239410194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1239410196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Credit card number? < 1239410206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I do my fair share of pointless things. < 1239410222 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but blatantly illegal pointless things? < 1239410233 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, I tried to read it, I gave up < 1239410237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: It is probably not illegal. < 1239410244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: The author credit is there and links to the original site too. < 1239410250 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: well, i know impomatic well enough to want to know who's him and who's not < 1239410260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Even if it is illegal - so what? Nobody is being hurt. < 1239410260 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(requires very little) < 1239410287 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask me about my D&D character(s) and the other PCs and NPCs in our party if you want to. And then compare to other version of D&D rulesets if you want to < 1239410302 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: then again AnMaster probably doesn't, so kind of a useless comment on my part. < 1239410315 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: this here is also a useless comment. < 1239410322 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just fyi < 1239410324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: USELOSSITY < 1239410344 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use loss city < 1239410346 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1239410348 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night. < 1239410395 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so who here has filmed a movie < 1239410420 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have filmed a movie once, it was called "AAA Candid Camera" and it didn't have to do much with Candid Camera < 1239410440 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the DVD in my drawer < 1239410469 0 :OoS!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the BF Joust test hill is no longer online :-( < 1239410469 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it over 1.5 hours? < 1239410479 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DVD even says "all region" and "*UOP-FREE*" on the label < 1239410496 0 :OoS!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Used to be here - http://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/bf/ < 1239410499 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me check the length of the movie < 1239410527 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting impatient, I may start a new version myself soon < 1239410538 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll code a test hill in INTERCAL or something tonight < 1239410564 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go home anyway < 1239410566 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ < 1239410566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, befunge? < 1239410569 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya < 1239410570 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1239410572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1239410591 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The movie I made is approx. one hour long < 1239410612 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, then i want to see it. < 1239410665 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Let's see whether you can see it. If I can do it somehow to make you able to see it. Should I post the DVD ISO file or something like that < 1239410704 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a direct download of avi is most preferable for me ofc. < 1239410732 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can do with the iso too prolly < 1239410746 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i'm a bit afraid of things that complicated here in linuxville < 1239410750 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far, you can at least see the label and list of chapters, at http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/dvdmenus/ but I cannot post the movie just yet (maybe later I can?) < 1239410756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: burning an iso = double click, select drive < 1239410777 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: heh, well okay that does sound kinda easy < 1239410786 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not sure this oldie has a dvd drive actually < 1239410931 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a comedy movie < 1239410936 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if that happens, do tell; also sorry about the genuine interest, i'm a weird dude. < 1239410983 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1239410999 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I post on your esolang wiki user-page if the movie is posted on internet? < 1239411015 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't use it really :< < 1239411033 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mostly use this thing here for communication < 1239411078 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I posted it on IRC, if you happened to be not on, would you still read the logs? (Of course if you are current on IRC, that would be better) < 1239411101 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i have a phase in life where i don't read logs. < 1239411105 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but umm < 1239411108 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm usually here. < 1239411202 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The movie has hardly been edited actually. First I recorded from video camera directly to VHS, and then edit it on computer (the only thing actually edited was some parts removed and some text added to the screen for some parts of the movie), and then put on DVD < 1239411217 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you would know, I wasn't very good at it at the time < 1239411249 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I still like the way the movie turned out. Nothing worth selling for money, but for stuff you don't have to pay, it is a good movie in my opinion < 1239411281 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm more interesting in content than in quality < 1239411328 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The content isn't something you would ask money for, but other than that it is good < 1239411383 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the mistakes we made while filming (except for blank parts) have been kept in and not deleted < 1239411680 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One scene consists entirely of a phone on speakerphone < 1239411700 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One scene consists of a ZZT game < 1239411707 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few scenes consist of pokemon battles < 1239411708 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to theorderofsticks.wordpress.com and gets slightly angry < 1239411733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeesh, apparently people who like order of the stick are illogical < 1239411942 0 :OoS!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"mov.i #1,1" < 1239412040 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1239412050 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bi-racial couple on an eHarmony commercial! < 1239412070 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every other couple they've shown have not only been the same race, but male/female clones of each other. < 1239412077 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was surreal. < 1239412191 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor! < 1239412220 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an easy way for me to send you money, should I ever want to do so? < 1239412285 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1239412308 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In one scene the computer has too much lego on it. But that is because the person complaining put the legos there < 1239412384 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR lives! < 1239412417 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: also, may I unintentionally distribute your Neural Color Matcher? < 1239412430 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1239412439 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Charizard keeps breaking the computer! < 1239412449 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would *you* do if Charizard kept breaking your computer? < 1239412452 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=BeholdMy@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1239412462 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't believe in charizards < 1239412464 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: Paypal AKAQuinn@hotmail.com , I'd prefer hotlinks but distribution is fine. < 1239412470 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1239412477 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if the problem was easy to fix and took only a few seconds? < 1239412486 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=BeholdMy@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1239412502 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i still wouldn't believe in them < 1239412514 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great. < 1239412540 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to believe in Charizards. What would you do if it happened anyways? < 1239412569 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't plan for stuff that has 0 probability of happening < 1239412586 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but umm i guess i have the capability to do so now. < 1239412589 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hmm < 1239412594 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would probably do nothing. < 1239412603 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assume it happened anyways because you are a character in a movie where such things can happen < 1239412614 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1239412620 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1239412643 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would buy a computer so bright light couldn't escape its surface < 1239412690 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and you know it couldn't break it maybe < 1239412740 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. should probably go to sleep, i practically am already < 1239412743 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see ya -> < 1239412762 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess what was the problem with the computer in the movie that Charizard broke, I will tell you if you are correct or incorrect < 1239412787 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it overheated < 1239412808 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. It didn't overheat < 1239412813 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a laptop computer < 1239412824 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Charizard slammed the lid closed < 1239412831 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was easy to fix, just open the computer again < 1239412834 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, makes sense < 1239412841 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The trainer didn't understand computer and thought the computer was broken < 1239412892 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right; well then i would prevent the closing of the lid with a small object < 1239412903 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The movie makes about as much sense as Monty Python < 1239412907 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you know give C a spanking < 1239412946 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bow chicka bow wow* < 1239412961 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You've been a naughty programming language!" < 1239412995 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1239413013 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably give you some money too < 1239413116 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, have I started a giving-GregorR-money fad? < 1239413189 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: What are you selling? < 1239413212 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: FREEDOM! < 1239413224 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: YE CAN NEVERR TEK MAH FREEDOM (but you can buy some!) < 1239413246 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1239413264 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently he didn't have enough money to buy some freedom *shrugs* < 1239413366 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear his movies aren't doing that well, this is just hearsay, but apparently his last movie made zero profit < 1239413439 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He shot himself in the foot with The Wurve of The Jebus < 1239413658 0 :deimos706!n=deimos@c-68-62-223-175.hsd1.al.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1239413682 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, a moon of Mars has somehow fallen to Earth! < 1239413684 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Alabama no less! < 1239413714 0 :deimos706!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1239413740 0 :deimos706!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this chat about esoteric and the occult and things < 1239413782 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1239413801 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone explain this new phenomenon already? < 1239413809 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :deimos706: nope, not really, no. < 1239413816 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Not really"? Not even slightly. < 1239413827 0 :deimos706!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww heh < 1239413839 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: you're just not looking deep enough i thinks. < 1239413844 0 :deimos706!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of esoteric then heh < 1239413866 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming < 1239413867 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel pertains to esoteric programming languages and models of computation, you'll find that FreeNode is predominantly geared towards computer-related stuff. < 1239413893 0 :deimos706!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooo i see thats sweet < 1239413910 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1239413932 0 :deimos706!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys have a nice day < 1239413934 0 :deimos706!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1239413941 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1239413963 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah < 1239413991 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If our /topic had any topic in it, he wouldn't have asked ;) < 1239414045 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i assume you're most likely to be able to explain why these people keep popping up here, i don't think that's always happened this frequently < 1239414053 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sorry if i should already know. < 1239414067 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should read logs :< < 1239414218 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1239414278 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, is anybody surprised that (s)he was in Alabama? :P < 1239414295 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/non-ports/ < 1239414313 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah, symlink hell! < 1239414372 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1239414393 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=BeholdMy@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1239414445 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1239414530 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking about reviving SPS> < 1239414539 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if anybody would consider it useful ... < 1239414692 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPS? < 1239414698 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any good Mezzacotta lately? < 1239414747 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: http://www.nongnu.org/sps/ < 1239414792 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm.. not sure I understand' < 1239414874 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With SPS, /usr is sort of a dynamic union filesystem. < 1239414884 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you specify what packages, and what versions of them, you want to see. < 1239414902 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is this different from regular apt? < 1239414918 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every user, and in fact every process, can have their own environment. < 1239414933 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, pretty < 1239414954 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So for example, if you have a program that needs GCC 3 to compile, rather than installing both and then figuring out how to convince it to use 'gcc-3.4' instead of 'gcc', you type sps with 'gcc < 4:4' -- make < 1239414957 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds cool < 1239414970 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was imagining something like that < 1239414976 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh really? < 1239414981 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the recent security protections on windows are just cat and mouse < 1239415007 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the solution is sandboxing < 1239415030 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, make it universal! < 1239415035 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that SPS is a sandbox < 1239415047 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you would have to use a filesystem like that < 1239415055 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Define "universal" < 1239415057 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, mounting /usr with fuse sounds slow to me :/ < 1239415074 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, get it in Debian and get application authors using it < 1239415087 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, written in D? < 1239415089 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eewwww < 1239415117 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: The former point is why I stopped working on it; it is slow :(. I'm rewriting it in C, recent shakeups in the D community have made me shy away a bit more. < 1239415253 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, did you read the latest Fine Structure? < 1239415259 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be sure to read Sam's comments < 1239415292 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I dunno, I wouldn't mind a language that compiles directly to machine code but implements foreach < 1239415418 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: D is a nice language, I still like it as a language, it's just in an ... unfortunate state right now. < 1239415528 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregorR: is a C-like D program as fast as a C program? < 1239415650 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: Modulo garbage collection, yes. < 1239415663 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: D is on http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/ btw. < 1239415734 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: clicked on a random link < 1239415735 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32q/benchmark.php?test=fannkuch&lang=all < 1239415748 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d is nowhere there < 1239415766 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also durr < 1239415771 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm an idiot < 1239415781 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If one has sufficient privs, fork with new namespace and overlay /usr with something suitable? :-) < 1239415825 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: That would require a huge pile of symlink farms. < 1239415835 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: Which isn't necessarily an impossibility, but bleh. < 1239415843 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Or using Fuse? < 1239415885 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: I am using Fuse :P < 1239416046 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Well, at least it wouldn't require rest of the system to be using Fuse for /usr... < 1239416129 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, 'struth. < 1239418177 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why IS Fuse so slow? Is it just the sheer number of context switches, or ...? < 1239421123 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Linux VFS is quite fast. So two context swaps and presumably additional VFS call really add up... And there might be additional factors adding even more slowness... < 1239421203 0 :bgboj!n=bbb@93.86.99.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1239421227 0 :bgboj!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1239422708 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just write a kernel driver < 1239422715 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or figure out why fuse is slow < 1239422728 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fix that < 1239422733 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ntfs-3g isn't so suck < 1239422765 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though is that true? < 1239422766 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ntfs-3g.org/performance.html < 1239422823 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :purports to be comparable to other FS even without the optimizations in the shitty commercial version < 1239424101 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cunionfs.c:280: error: unknown field ‘readdir’ specified in initializer < 1239424102 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTFBBQ < 1239424123 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is filling a fuse_operations < 1239425100 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving..." < 1239429541 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1239433227 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1239435059 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1239436799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1239436800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1239446737 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1239447014 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-143-134.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1239447102 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plyp < 1239447219 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1239450064 0 :Hiato!n=1@41.245.7.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1239451474 0 :nooga!n=nooga@86-63-114-141.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1239451479 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yoyo < 1239451500 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haz a problem < 1239453231 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=BeholdMy@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1239453451 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1239453488 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1239453616 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1239453628 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something sad happened < 1239453630 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what < 1239453650 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1239453813 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1239453814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1239453827 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1239453842 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga has a problem. < 1239453844 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION had his client restart several times after each other today, thus no scrollbacl < 1239453847 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scrollback* < 1239453862 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"* Now talking on #esoteric * BeholdMyGlory (n=BeholdMy@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se) has joined #esoteric" < 1239453869 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well with newline there of course < 1239453912 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, what is the problem he has < 1239453922 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i don't know < 1239453926 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1239453930 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: what is it? < 1239453942 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1239453977 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i *may* just be hungry enough to make me some food < 1239453993 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be cool, food is awesome < 1239454059 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1239454571 0 :MouD!n=mougeot@pel44-1-78-229-240-193.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1239454817 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk how to parse function application in new SADOL, because i made functions forst class citizens... eg. :f3 {1}f12{/1} :f~2+#_0#_1 {2}f12{/2} < 1239454854 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadol! < 1239454855 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 1st case f12 yields 312 and in the 2nd case f eats 1 and 2 < 1239454876 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i don't read that < 1239454899 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so parser must know what is function and when, in parse time < 1239454908 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err just parse at runtime < 1239454909 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j does it. < 1239454912 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it must know how much arguments function takes < 1239454937 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, but i'm writing a compiler :D < 1239454962 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc my shortest quicksort version already used functions as if they were forst-class citizens < 1239454980 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what? < 1239454988 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? sadol < 1239455007 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the behavior was so random i couldn't get it finished < 1239455010 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1239455062 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*first < 1239455063 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1239455216 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1239455251 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm meh indeed. < 1239455271 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i tried to enable multichar ids < 1239455301 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more confusion < 1239455331 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then parser would be quite twisted < 1239455336 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :glass uses parens around multichar ids < 1239455515 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i planned to use spaces < 1239455539 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but by definition SADOL pisses on whitespace < 1239455849 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haahaa! < 1239455860 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's already quite fast < 1239455929 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :next step is to add macros and enable calling external functions < 1239455936 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :opengl in SADOL? :D < 1239456149 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-2-243.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1239456319 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1239457099 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugly though < 1239457124 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's ugly? < 1239457186 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :)"7glBegin$1"8GL_LINES < 1239457325 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1239457338 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1239457704 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{#call glBegin GL_LINES} < 1239457707 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with macro :D < 1239457749 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a terrible obfuscation facility! < 1239457757 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...facility? :D < 1239457785 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1239457790 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :macros sucks < 1239457811 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and currying is for wimps < 1239457823 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err actually i guess facility works, my english deteriorates by the day < 1239457856 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or then i'm just more paranoid about correctness. < 1239457885 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calm down :p < 1239457904 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never! < 1239457944 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. need to go eat a burger and you know read algebra. < 1239457945 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1239457954 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1239458790 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1239459662 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/Brazil/ < 1239460221 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: reindeer burger? < 1239461460 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1239461469 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish there was a sort of . operator in bash < 1239462583 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would do what? < 1239463163 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex < 1239463269 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1239463279 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wget . inkscape) http://url/something.svg < 1239463289 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that would require some intelligence :p < 1239463290 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes it's backwards < 1239463637 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1239463651 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :composition < 1239463697 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably it can be done < 1239463698 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1239463733 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comp (wget . inkscape) htpp://blah < 1239463742 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you must write comp ;p < 1239463743 0 :tombom!n=tombomp@82.25.194.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1239463882 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1239465448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1239465452 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1239465460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1239465464 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1239465467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1239465470 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1239465478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1239465482 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1239465619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP THAT CLIENT < 1239465620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:00 Sgeo_: ehird, did you read the latest Fine Structure? < 1239465623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i don't read fs < 1239465627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:35 deimos706: hello < 1239465627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:35 deimos706: is this chat about esoteric and the occult and things < 1239465630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol on a stick < 1239465648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: SPS is too advanced. either stick with package managers or get the real solution, a capability based OS < 1239465673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: union mounting /usr sounds funny whereby funny I mean SHIT SLOW < 1239465709 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ta-da! bin/forter works :-) < 1239465715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forter? < 1239465730 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forte + Ruby < 1239465745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1239465876 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't really that hard… < 1239465915 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Ruby isn't really the best language for parsing < 1239465938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's a pain < 1239465941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsing in general < 1239465943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be so much simpler < 1239465949 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1239465956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo yes < 1239465965 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why haven't anyone (like you :P) done something about it? < 1239465977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz it's hard to make it simpler :) < 1239466007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: but -- Haskell's Parsec and our Redivider: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Redivider are steps in the right direction < 1239466023 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Redivider/Underload_Interpreter < 1239466028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly that runs as well as parses < 1239466030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a good example < 1239466067 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1239466081 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Haskell is something I should learn? < 1239466090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Redivider is basically parsec as a regexp-tarpit with syntax :-) < 1239466096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: If you ask me, absolutely < 1239466105 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably my favourite language < 1239466703 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1239466812 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's forte? < 1239466822 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Forte < 1239466856 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : that'd be cool, food is awesome < 1239466872 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it beats being angry because you're hungry *munch* < 1239466923 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I've been playing with a little language called Regland (maybe I've mentioned it before) < 1239466941 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a "self-parsing" language < 1239466952 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume it's a regular duck language < 1239466955 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of variables, you define syntax < 1239466979 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/win/ = 123 < 1239467007 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/(\d+)/ @ %ruby { return integer } < 1239467034 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :integers will be implemented in itself < 1239467038 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like many other things < 1239467065 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moar < 1239467105 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will have built-in blocks/lambda/function < 1239467126 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/somethin/ = { } < 1239467131 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somethin() < 1239467146 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically implemented as a loop which matches regex'es < 1239467198 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to define syntax for defining syntax ? < 1239467198 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm bootstrapping it with the default syntax < 1239467237 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then create potentially infinite abstraction levels? < 1239467242 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two ways to define syntax, using = and using @ < 1239467248 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := simply sets it to the object < 1239467262 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so /s/ = { 123 }; then s will return a block < 1239467277 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/s/ = 123 < 1239467288 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s returns an integer < 1239467293 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ will evaluate the given block < 1239467296 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/sex/ = 666 will become /123ex/ = 666 < 1239467297 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ? < 1239467306 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so /s/ @ { 123 }; s will return 123 < 1239467326 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: nope < 1239467375 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/thing/ is more like a string < 1239467441 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also prototype-based language < 1239467469 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so /thing/ is an object whose parent is Matcher (whose parent is Object) < 1239467496 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could for instance do: Matcher /something/ = 123 < 1239467497 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about defining way of expressing constants < 1239467514 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then '/something/ something' returns 123 < 1239467533 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i'd like to have: ababc => 12123 < 1239467585 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you could define a syntax: /ababc/ = 12123 < 1239467597 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everytime Regland sees "ababc" it will return 12123 < 1239467606 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and: ababc .-._.- ba => 12123 + 21 < 1239467630 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1239467639 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1239467642 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see… < 1239467645 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bit uncool < 1239467693 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regland won't match unless there's a non-alpha right after the match, or the last char in the match < 1239467717 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "hell" will never match "hello" < 1239467725 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehm /hell/* < 1239467764 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "hell o" might (then it will match the "hell" part and continue parsing) < 1239467780 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1239467856 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in your example, you could /[abc]+/ @ { build int from match } < 1239467882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: sounds like it could be interesting. < 1239467904 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1239467906 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :together with Integer /\.-\._\.-/ = (Integer +) < 1239467916 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1239467917 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it it *should* work < 1239467971 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to write the core in a Ruby DSL, then the rest will be implemented in Regland (together with %ruby{}-blocks) < 1239468028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it with rubyists and dsls < 1239468066 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just an abstraction < 1239468087 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's me focus on the definition, not the objects behind < 1239468119 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wraps Regland's objects together with Ruby's classes < 1239468144 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway. time for dinner :-) < 1239468148 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1239468149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1239468397 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Albions < 1239468398 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lulwut < 1239468576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NOTICE: The data below is posted by a program which is part of the Graffiti research project from Brown University. We will remove the data from your site once the experiment is finished. If you want to delete this, please do so as you would delete a spam page. For more information, please visit http://graffiti.cs.brown.edu/info/. " < 1239468585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's trying to share files via mediawiki. < 1239468586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuckers. < 1239468591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone report them to... something. < 1239468666 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Al Gore? < 1239468673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.brown.edu/~pavlo/ No email. wonderful < 1239468687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's pavlo@cs.brown.edu < 1239468695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to write a complaint. < 1239468768 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mind doeth boggle < 1239468809 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SICP has arrived on the French textboard D: < 1239468836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sends angry email. < 1239468854 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck they did it in _two_ articles < 1239468870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: one of them got subtly changed by zzo38 < 1239468876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is great < 1239468886 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they're probably going to get sued... < 1239468887 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh* < 1239468893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: their site laughs it off. < 1239468896 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not sued < 1239468907 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't think people will take it < 1239468911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit-for-brains immature retards. Too dangerous to be using a computer. < 1239468922 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes up space on them wikis < 1239468928 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're american. all it takes is for them to hit a corporate american wiki, sure? < 1239468938 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corporate wiki? < 1239468940 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly those may not be few < 1239468942 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*many < 1239468955 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, something affiliated with a corporation < 1239468974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hope they hit wikipedia < 1239468978 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any that are widely available? < 1239468980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'll be fun < 1239468989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, bastards. < 1239469024 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they did it even _after_ a reviewer pointed out what a bad idea it was, iirc < 1239469047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at their site < 1239469054 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, they might end up expelled for it < 1239469055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two out of 4 entries are about being banned/rejected < 1239469064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and one of the others is about submitting the one that was rejected) < 1239469074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i dunno - they got a subdomain < 1239469077 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they're professors with tuition, hm... < 1239469086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1239469088 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they looked young < 1239469090 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*he < 1239469090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.brown.edu/~pavlo/ < 1239469091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.brown.edu/~ning/ < 1239469094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they < 1239469095 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i looked at < 1239469120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my opinion of that uni just went down < 1239469122 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the link they give on the wiki points back to brown.edu < 1239469132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1239469133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it points back to < 1239469137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graffiti.cs.brown.edu < 1239469140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they got a subdomain approved for it < 1239469167 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a host maybe < 1239469311 0 :neldoreth|lp!n=user@77.118.203.54.wireless.dyn.drei.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1239469450 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, "We are only planning to store one piece of data on each unique MediaWiki site." < 1239469464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. liars. :P < 1239469468 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they probably hit both esolangs.org and voxelperfect.net, then < 1239469557 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus, if they do that, they won't be able to do shit < 1239469573 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A movie would probably take up the space of every damn wiki < 1239469594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1239469603 0 :neldoreth|lp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1239469604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, data changing, reversion ... < 1239469615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a terrible idea even if it did work, but it doesn't. < 1239469941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Wadler%27s_Law < 1239470129 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1239470193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1239439150/18 < 1239470354 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they cheated on lexical comments! < 1239470367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wut < 1239470408 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot put a string containing "-}" inside {- -} comments, for example < 1239470419 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you cannot escape all code that way :) < 1239470425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1239470433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just use cpp! duh! < 1239470446 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1239470462 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not an official part of haskell though < 1239470465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[sarcasm] < 1239470561 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: another question < 1239470568 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} blocks will be written in? < 1239470580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language I assum < 1239470581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1239470594 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regland < 1239470603 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can use %ruby{} to run Ruby < 1239470647 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think however that I have to make them indent-based < 1239470664 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how else am I going to parse them? < 1239470671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er. < 1239470679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this language lacks a certain sense of direction < 1239470708 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1239470725 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how arithmetics look in pure Regland? < 1239470752 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it probably points into the fifth dimension < 1239470760 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Mony < 1239470771 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :M0ny < 1239470795 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: the purest way is: 1 +(2), since + is a block < 1239470848 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can also turn + into a syntax which fetches the next token < 1239470866 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Integers won't be defined in the core-language anyway < 1239470994 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also plan on making it possible to remove all the current regex'es and define your own < 1239471040 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can write "I WANT BRAINFUCK" and suddenly all the regex'es matches Brainfuck < 1239471062 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"KTHXBYE" = back in Regland again < 1239471104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is essentially Metalogic-- :- < 1239471105 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1239471136 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Metalogic? < 1239471160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tentative name for my in-head language that is based entirely around semantics arising out of redefining the infinite layers of the language being the prorgam. < 1239471162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*program < 1239471176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Metalogic--" where -- is the C sense. < 1239471236 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1239471295 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: start implementing then < 1239471316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1239471430 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1239471506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lazy < 1239471514 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :start documenting < 1239471524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not ready < 1239471528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been simmering for years < 1239471531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still perfecting itself < 1239471544 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah blah my ass < 1239471570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1239471609 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: still, when you're going to implement it, you'll discover things you haven't thought of and maybe need to rethink some parts < 1239471623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but, :-) < 1239471642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's incredibly simple but on the other hand infinite levels of abstraction are kind of hard to implement with non-infinitely-abstracted things. < 1239472021 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, I just realized that I'm essentially doing an unbounded and variable number of function calls whilst expecting the stack pointer to not move < 1239472041 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine such language as a language, let's say L0, which allows you to program and define language L1 that is reducable to L0 statements and allows to do exactly same things as L0, and thus Ln+1 is reducable to Ln, so programs written in every Ln where n>0 will be reduced to runnable L0 program < 1239472045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: :-D < 1239472054 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION $ git reset --hard HEAD < 1239472064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: oh, it's far more intricate than that < 1239472073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it solves the inelegance of multiple levels by turning it up to infinity < 1239472082 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a bit unfortunate, I'll need a global < 1239472090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH NO A GLOBAL < 1239472096 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut? < 1239472123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: if it makes sense, you are infinitely intelligent. < 1239472127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so don't feel too bad. < 1239472133 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, actually I could put stuff in the XMM registers < 1239472163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1239472165 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll probably use more code size but I'd rather avoid the global on principle < 1239472166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1239472327 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1239472332 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in L0: + prints "howdy", ?xy says that y will be translated to x and then executed as L0, +?+-??! -!-*!!E *E*xEEX xXx.XX, and so on < 1239472335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1239472338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinity ftw < 1239472373 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the most simple form < 1239472375 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho < 1239472395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :simple and inelegant is a bad combination < 1239472409 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :howdy howdy howdy howdy < 1239472415 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: if he's infinitely intelligent, shouldn't he be wandering over to yudkowsky to help out? < 1239472443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :- < 1239472445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1239472449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said "wut" < 1239472453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :implying he didn't understand < 1239472457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus was finitely intelligent < 1239472464 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1239472465 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1239472515 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the "if it makes sense" was just an empty phrase < 1239472520 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a walking proof that some people are stupid < 1239472539 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone's stupid < 1239472579 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a shame, here we could have solved the Friendly AI problem with a Friendly BI < 1239472591 0 :neldoreth|lp!n=user@77.118.203.54.wireless.dyn.drei.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1239472605 0 :neldoreth|lp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1239472652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the singularity implies infinite intelligence; I'm not sure the concept even makes sense < 1239472689 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doub that intelligence is measurable < 1239472693 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubt* < 1239472705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most things are measurable. < 1239472709 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there would probably be a tower of infinities in theory there too < 1239472724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not measurable to any intelligable degree by us, maybe < 1239472732 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for banana scheme and such < 1239472822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's 2040 and nerds in old-folks homes are wandering around, scratching their heads, and asking plaintively, 'But ... but, where's the Singularity?'" < 1239472823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : — Vernor Vinge < 1239472975 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VV < 1239472980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :W. < 1239472987 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've read something by VV < 1239473004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernor_Vinge#Novels < 1239473007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pick one. < 1239473013 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fire Upon the Deep < 1239473016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1239473024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's around the time he described the singularity. < 1239473107 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders. if the hard problems of AI are not logic but things that other animals can do, does that mean e.g. a chimpanzee is in some sense 99% as intelligent as a human? < 1239473131 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm not sure the hypothetical holds. < 1239473140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems a bit arbitrary < 1239473154 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i read something like that somewhere < 1239473162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1239473166 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically computers easily do logic games < 1239473166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm not sure 99%. < 1239473169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :99% seems a bit much. < 1239473176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chimps are certainly intelligent, though. < 1239473187 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's very hard to do things like vision < 1239473215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: doing 100% precise logic puzzles isn't really much of a part of intelligence < 1239473238 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we know that _now_ < 1239473248 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, there is also common sense < 1239473262 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which includes many things only humans have < 1239473267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fuzzy reasoning < 1239473269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, to a degree, emotions < 1239473272 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so scratch at least some of that < 1239473277 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :animals have emotions < 1239473279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without emotions we probably wouldn't last very long < 1239473298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "common sense" is hideously vague, really < 1239473302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just learned behaviour imo < 1239473303 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I argue that the fundamental difference between humans and other great apes is not that we're wildly more intelligent (although we certainly are), but that we have the specific intelligence of being able to communicate abstract ideas. Without this, very clever creatures can accomplish very little. < 1239473319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: That seems logical. < 1239473500 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently my argument was SO COMPELLING that everybody's done arguing :P < 1239473522 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/faculty/vinge/longnow/ < 1239473555 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : and, to a degree, emotions // I doubt highly that there are any emotions we have that chimpanzees don't. < 1239473559 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(slides to a talk by vinge with that quote) < 1239473566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never said anything else, GregorR < 1239473575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it was in an article on kurzweilai thingy < 1239473587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here: < 1239473592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kurzweilai.net/articles/art0696.html?m=1 < 1239473600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh < 1239473602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less cruft: < 1239473603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kurzweilai.net/articles/art0696.html?printable=1 < 1239473609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1239473611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the same hting < 1239473615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing < 1239473618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mine has images < 1239473679 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok thanks < 1239473713 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you had just picked it off a signature or something :) < 1239473743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Everything but esoteric programming languages. Trading card games, the singularity, memes, but NO. ESOLANGS. No exceptions. http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1239473753 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1239473761 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no more cheerful topic eh? < 1239473766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1239473814 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should we have memes? isn't that more a 4chan thing < 1239473823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We do have memes. < 1239473826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether we should is irrelevant. < 1239473838 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1239473887 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, how 'bout that kipple. < 1239473906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1239473924 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, uh, I said "How 'bout some kibble"! < 1239473930 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yum yum! < 1239474020 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about kippers in kibble? < 1239474240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about GREAT HUGE BUTTS. < 1239474324 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no thanks, i'm not that hungry < 1239475151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a .h file with a DEC copyright on his system < 1239475166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copyright 1987 by Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard, Massachusetts < 1239475166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : All Rights Reserved < 1239475384 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that entirely unsurprising. < 1239475391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1239475406 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have at least 46 < 1239475419 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x11 < 1239475425 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh < 1239475455 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess waht? I have files copyright Linus Torvalds! < 1239475457 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooooh < 1239475458 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1239475518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wowzers. < 1239475539 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lulz < 1239475557 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :taht wuz sooo epic < 1239475616 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it would be worth the headache for my /usr FUSE mount to present everything as symlinks instead of files. < 1239475637 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only caveat is that programs that follow their own symlinks to look for other files may end up in the wrong place. < 1239475659 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programs with compiled-in prefixes or simple PATH lookups would be fine. < 1239475662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPS sux like I said :-D < 1239475689 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your argument is solely on the speed of FUSE-mounting /usr, and that can be fixed by simply creating a kernel module to do the same. < 1239475701 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only problem is that "simply", isn't. < 1239475703 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1239475708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I critiqued the idea. < 1239475720 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I have the wrong argument! < 1239475721 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TO THE LOGS! < 1239475727 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I'll summarize < 1239475728 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I wasn't clear < 1239475735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a proper, system-wide dependency system is the right way forward < 1239475740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc, you can't really do that on top of an existing os < 1239475765 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. There is a prerequisite that this be on top of an existing OS though. < 1239475772 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it isn't, then you can go crazy of course. < 1239475778 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'd like this to be incremental. < 1239475781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I've never really had a need... < 1239475784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't you just do < 1239475790 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Individuals should never have a need. < 1239475798 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only useful for things like university systems. < 1239475803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ln -s gcc-3.2 ~/tmp/gcc; PATH=~/tmp/gcc:$PATH program < 1239475848 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPS? < 1239475857 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: http://www.nongnu.org/sps/ < 1239475858 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds simple enough, until you start adding packages with complicated dependencies, shared object files, ... < 1239475891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I propose suicide. < 1239475903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOW, Eclipse is the slowest thing evar < 1239475921 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Yes it is. < 1239475941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes like five seconds to open a file WTF < 1239475958 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KLUDGE < 1239475975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: if it's a university system < 1239475978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :htf did you get root to mount /sur < 1239475980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*usr < 1239475993 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: An admin would have to set things up initially in any case. < 1239476008 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: This is supposed to be something that admins provide to users, not that users provide to themselves. < 1239476032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is sounding less and less useful < 1239476049 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only guess that you were imaging it as something that it's not intended to be *shrugs* < 1239476116 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the fundamental reason for its existence: You're an admin, you manage a bunch of systems, and get a quadrillion package requests per $PERIOD_OF_TIME. These packages are sometimes in conflict, often people need specific versions, and generally it's a PITA. SO, you use SPS on /usr, and install whatever people want (within reason), allowing them to pick and choose what they see. < 1239476135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: You mean it's a hideously complex ~/local/bin < 1239476170 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A) It's not actually that complex, B) It's substantially more powerful and general. < 1239476186 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, I forgot to mention, the admin doesn't necessarily have to install the packages, the user could simply download a deb and install it into their own cache) < 1239476242 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[brb] < 1239476281 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOJO < 1239476481 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how old am I? < 1239476485 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 < 1239476500 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :older < 1239476503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1239476514 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 what? < 1239476594 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LET 4=20 < 1239476738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a b c d 3 < 1239476748 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: does your forte handle the whitespace? < 1239476749 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 2 MANY < 1239476754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 0PR IN T"Hello, world!" < 1239476760 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yeah < 1239476779 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a little method which cleans up < 1239476785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ditto < 1239476797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: link to your interp? < 1239476803 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://github.com/judofyr/forter < 1239476824 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://github.com/judofyr/forter/blob/69cf67cec0530cdc505ed7dd6cde564fdf2998b4/lib/forter.rb < 1239476834 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see ForterParser#cleanup < 1239476836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, ais523 will get angry at the githubness < 1239476850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he refuses to use it because of the no-ad-blocking clause in the ToS) < 1239476856 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://github.com/judofyr/forter/blob/69cf67cec0530cdc505ed7dd6cde564fdf2998b4/lib/grammar.tt < 1239476969 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Quality is enterprise ' life, Innovation is enterprise ' soul" < 1239476995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: why on earth did you have to do __magic__ to get something this simple working? < 1239477000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's something I often encountered with ruby < 1239477006 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's silly < 1239477008 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :__magic__? < 1239477015 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking about SimpleDelegator? < 1239477019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://github.com/judofyr/forter/blob/69cf67cec0530cdc505ed7dd6cde564fdf2998b4/lib/forter.rb#L41 < 1239477019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1239477054 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you handling it? < 1239477079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: I just have a map of {int=>int}... < 1239477098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: does yours eliminate steps? < 1239477099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie < 1239477105 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3=4, 4=5, 5=6 < 1239477108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that become < 1239477113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{3=>6,4=>6} < 1239477127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you get slowdowns as time goes on < 1239477141 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've implemented it in Ruby… < 1239477147 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think I care about speed? < 1239477151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not speed < 1239477153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's efficiency < 1239477174 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speed == efficiency < 1239477191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unspeakably wrong < 1239477199 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it comes to machines < 1239477203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unspeakably wrong. < 1239477226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speed is optimizing the implementation; efficiency is not having every program crawl to a halt really quickly < 1239477240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :removing cycles is three line of code < 1239477247 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speed is doing less < 1239477274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, see my explanation above. < 1239477277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speed is not efficiency < 1239477373 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1239477446 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :treetop sucx < 1239477459 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't so many choices in Ruby < 1239477483 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why all the real rubyists use haskell < 1239477504 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parsing/compiling/interpreting isn't Ruby's job < 1239477512 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1239477520 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucx < 1239477523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: nor is text processing < 1239477524 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RDParser + severap maps < 1239477526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor is running anything efficiently < 1239477528 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and compiler ready ;d < 1239477533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm what can it do again? < 1239477536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah run a blog < 1239477544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, or an IRC bot! < 1239477557 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruby is fun :-) < 1239477569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so's haskell :D < 1239477596 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm writing SADOLv3 compiler in ruby and then i'll bootstrap it < 1239477604 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :checks out RDParser < 1239477631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsecccccccccccccccccc < 1239477709 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsec rules 8-D < 1239477719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, GregorR uses haskell < 1239477719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1239477724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't have guessed < 1239477736 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... why not? < 1239477754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, you seemed more the D type. < 1239477754 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :… * < 1239477764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: >_< < 1239477773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:18 Judofyr: Parsing/compiling/interpreting isn't Ruby's job < 1239477775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :’ * < 1239477793 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1239477802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :’ vs ' < 1239477810 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you'll be pedantic about ... vs … < 1239477811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1239477823 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, are you unicoding bastards at it again < 1239477835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION unicodes < 1239477842 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE SPEAK ENGLISH, JESUS' LANGUAGE. < 1239477844 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, it's all ' on my keyboard < 1239477885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: I was pointing out that you're a hypocrite for demanding … but using ' < 1239477885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1239477891 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a marvel the jews understood him, really < 1239477911 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*miracle < 1239477912 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What with him having predated the only language he spoke by a thousand years. < 1239477917 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha < 1239477990 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1239478008 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl 6 will be extremely awesome < 1239478013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1239478016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl 6 sucks < 1239478023 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yuh < 1239478025 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :second system syndrome at its finest < 1239478030 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's VACUUM power < 1239478049 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless by "awesome" you mean "awesome" in the classic vernacular, like "Hitler's awesome power" < 1239478055 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(YAY GODWIN'S LAW I WIN) < 1239478070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Hitler's awesome power. http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1239478075 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* lilo has joined < 1239478077 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i think godwin's law says you lose < 1239478080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Please change the topic. < 1239478095 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, when ghosts start asserting power, it's time to change the topic. < 1239478096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it says nothing about lossage < 1239478098 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek, a ghost! < 1239478106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I AM A JEW IN HEAVEN < 1239478108 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1239478115 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't? < 1239478118 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb, cig < 1239478119 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lilo: don't go biking today! < 1239478120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I was killed in the holocaust on a bike in 2006 < 1239478126 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooo! < 1239478137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric: Reality is often incorrect. < 1239478142 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Hitler's awesome power: HE SHOT LASER BEAMS FROM HIS EYES http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1239478158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hitler shot me with a laser beam from his eyes. As a car. < 1239478160 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ok, that's a common variation < 1239478189 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: also, you really raised quirk's exception < 1239478217 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that that it doesn't count as Godwin's law if you cite Godwin's law? < 1239478224 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1239478228 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figures :P < 1239478236 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, if you use it intentionally < 1239478247 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :oerjan's awesome power: HE SHOOTS LASER BEAMS FROM HIS EYES http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1239478285 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can neither confirm nor deny that. < 1239478313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :oerjan is hitler | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1239478327 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A real-world version of that would be hilariously unthreatening. < 1239478349 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What's this red dot on my shirt ..." "I'm shooting laser beams from my eyes!" " ... OK?" < 1239478376 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop going around making me look all harmless and fuzzy < 1239478412 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well unless you look someone in the eyes, of course < 1239478431 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i think is a violation of international law < 1239478531 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Real World Haskell is the way to go? < 1239478542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: Yes, although I like Learn You a Haskell. < 1239478550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: http://learnyouahaskell.com/. < 1239478555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: It's very why's (poignant) guide. < 1239478576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do read learn you I'd do real world haskell after, since it doesn't cover much beyond the language itself < 1239478577 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_on_Blinding_Laser_Weapons < 1239478593 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. much better line-height than RWH! < 1239478598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1239478607 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can vaporize people all you want, as long as you don't blind them < 1239478615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: also, it's right: #haskell is awesome < 1239478628 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#ruby-lang is boring < 1239478631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :second friendliest irc channel < 1239478634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :save for #esoteric < 1239478644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: #ruby-lang is all flamewars and grudges and stuff < 1239478649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly quite tiring imo. < 1239478661 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Judofyr: no offense, but your ruby-speak is starting to annoy me and likely others as well" < 1239478662 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1239478669 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's that from < 1239478678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :& define "ruby-speak" < 1239478740 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: http://pastie.textmate.org/private/js9hcu8mqsx4xl5vsmn4q < 1239478742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: also, a tip: rabidly avoid anything calling itself a monad tutorial < 1239478744 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Dvorak sux QWERTY RULZ LAWL | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1239478758 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1239478774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the correct way to understand monads is to just use them without thinking at first (so you can actually write IO-ing programs), learn how haskell works, then you can just look at the definition < 1239478777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it should all come into place < 1239478779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i did, at least < 1239478786 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agreed. < 1239478834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: nothing wrong with that paste -- I bet zenspider said that < 1239478841 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I did was write something like with State but manually with pairs and 'let', then spent time doing it with State, then stared at the two until I figured it out < 1239478845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he seems to have a nack for disliking anything < 1239478856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Monads are like monads" < 1239478862 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it wasn't him this time, but yeah < 1239478865 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's totally true < 1239478871 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a knack for disliking spelling "knack" as "nack" :P < 1239478877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<_< < 1239478895 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: for one second I almost thought you were elliottcable :P < 1239478906 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: it is phonetic, at least. < 1239478906 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason zenspider hates him < 1239478914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: Ha, I have my own history with elliottcable. < 1239478915 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blocked him from #ruby-lang < 1239478920 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I'm not arguing that "nack" makes marginally more sense as a spelling :P < 1239478922 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English = garbage < 1239478936 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, ellittcable isn't the most nice/polite person in the world :P < 1239478946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliottcable started a bizarre campaign of trying to annoy me as much as possible :-D < 1239478960 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he failed? < 1239478962 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESPERANTO IS THE ONLY WAY, MAN < 1239478966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He gave up. < 1239478975 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: "this first name is not big enough for the both of us"? < 1239478982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :D < 1239478992 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: INTELINGUA MAN < 1239478995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was back in the #ircnomic days. On team UTC-day, all the people who actually played the game. On team UTC-night, everyone who made proposals to permanently break the game for no reason other than laughs. < 1239478998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fight! Fight! Fight! < 1239479019 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UR WRONG, IT'S LOBJAN < 1239479025 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDO! < 1239479030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITHKUIL! < 1239479036 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KLINGON < 1239479040 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO. < 1239479041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITHKUIL./ < 1239479049 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SINDARIN < 1239479065 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ithkul are a race in Master of Orion 3. < 1239479077 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEWSPEAK IS DOUBLEPLUSGOOD < 1239479079 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VOLAPÜK < 1239479087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION purchases http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000ETX928/ < 1239479105 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, my DOBELA interpreter seems to work somewhat. < 1239479145 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to install OpenWRT w/ x-wrt on it, of course.) < 1239479158 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1239479158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should make a rap in ithkuil < 1239479163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be the most literate rap ever since it's so dens < 1239479163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1239479215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :""Translation: As our vehicle leaves the ground and plunges over the edge of the cliff toward the valley floor, I ponder whether it is possible that one might allege I am guilty of an act of moral failure, having failed to maintain a proper course along the roadway. " < 1239479219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Ithkuil_pull_uiqisx.ogg < 1239479223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pull ̀ uíqišx ma’wałg eřyaufënienˉ päţwïç auxë’yaļt xne’wïļta’şui tua kit öllá yaqazmuiv li’yïrzişka’ p’amḿ aìlo’wëčča šu’yehtaş < 1239479232 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1239479264 0 :tombom_!n=tombomp@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1239479267 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=BeholdMy@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1239479280 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY EARS < 1239479321 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet < 1239479337 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a song in ithkuil (period) would be impressive < 1239479346 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ˈpʊlːˋ ʊˈɪˊqɪʃx ˈmaʔwaʟɡ ɛʁjɑʊfɤˈnɪɛnˉ ˈpæθwɯç aʊˈxɤʔjaɬt xnɛʔwiɬˈtaʔʂʊɪ tʊa kɪt œlːˈaˊ jaˈqazmʊɪv lɪʔjɯɾˈzɪʂkaʔ p’amːˊ aɪlɔˈwɤtʃːa ʃʊʔˈjɛhtaʂ] < 1239479358 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about a conlang in it? < 1239479364 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*esolang < 1239479366 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong channel < 1239479371 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything? < 1239479383 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GRUNNUR < 1239479391 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1239479392 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: yo dawg < 1239479398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: *"GRUNNUR" < 1239479420 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know. the GRUNNUR gets too exciting sometimes < 1239479434 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I GRUNNURed your mom < 1239479436 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help but show others the joy of being GRUNNUR'd inside < 1239479488 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true story :\ < 1239479494 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool story bro < 1239479495 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't pronounce ɤ accurately :-/ < 1239479507 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least not followed by a glottal stop < 1239479552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e5/Ithkuil_sentence.ogg < 1239479555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even uglier sounding < 1239479560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Romanization: Oumpeá äx’ääļuktëx. Pronunciation: /oum.pɛ.a æ.’kxæ.ɬʊk.tɤx/ < 1239479570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ompeaa a kethluch tuck < 1239479598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: The forced breaking of the meme density? < 1239479600 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oompa loompa < 1239479606 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet < 1239479620 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The previous one wasn't ugly though, that was beautiful < 1239479631 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one's a bit scrunchy I admit < 1239479651 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1239479656 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an oompa loompa in a ketchup truck < 1239479664 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you broken the meme density today? < 1239479669 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=BeholdMy@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1239479669 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1239479673 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ≖‿≖) < 1239479676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my other breakage of the meme density is. < 1239479677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh. < 1239479680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know. < 1239479698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Theory: Every person on /prog/ is in here. < 1239479708 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a breakage of the meme density? < 1239479717 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird : I'm not on /prog/ < 1239479727 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hang out in the elitist superstructure of DQN < 1239479731 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: you are assuming the consequent! :O < 1239479782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1239479785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the graffiti guy responded < 1239479787 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :consequently, he's assuming < 1239479795 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Our system currently skips sites if we see a CAPTCHA. The simple "puzzle" < 1239479795 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anti-spam feature is useless; we broke that with 5 lines of Python.]] < 1239479802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he realise what a fuckwit he is? < 1239479851 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure spammers will make a special program to spam you < 1239479861 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of them was 'import ocr'? < 1239479915 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. Dutch is a nice language for singing. < 1239479926 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How often do you get tablecats on /prog/? < 1239479931 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ithkuil.net/ilaksh/Chapter_11.htm hahaha, this is some funky stuff < 1239479934 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get the feeling more than usual < 1239479967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only the troupe of clowns had gotten together and destroyed their musical instruments just after performing that lovely recital for us. < 1239480020 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean humanity might have survived? < 1239480021 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: looks like some cultish religion < 1239480053 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's brilliant, if I had a year or two to spare I'd learn it < 1239480071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: nobody's learned it < 1239480074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he's been at it for decadse < 1239480078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a year or two is probably not enough < 1239480081 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Ilaksh, not Ithkuil < 1239480088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: quite a lot. < 1239480090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: well sure < 1239480125 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's go to prog < 1239480135 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I will leave you a tablecat, as a gift. < 1239480140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How generous. < 1239480153 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tablecat? < 1239480163 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels so outside < 1239480188 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : http://tanasinn.info/wiki/Tablecat < 1239480197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://dis.4chan.org/prog/. < 1239480202 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since /prog/ is a textboard, they are dangerously close to /vip/ < 1239480205 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is tablecat < 1239480208 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :import tablecat < 1239480210 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tablecat('FIOC') < 1239480218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :import Data.Tablecat < 1239480224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tablecat :: Tablecat < 1239480228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tablecat = makeTableCat "FIOC" < 1239480230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main :: IO () < 1239480233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = print tablecat < 1239480234 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Owait, /prog/ doesn't have text art < 1239480236 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1239480239 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh /prog/ on 4chan < 1239480240 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What to do. < 1239480241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: [m] < 1239480249 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is your Showable instance!!! < 1239480251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for monospacery. < 1239480252 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION visited 4chan once < 1239480265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: :-o < 1239480268 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[m]? < 1239480277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: [m]monospace[/m] < 1239480279 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude < 1239480289 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are aware that SJIS art is not monospaced, right? < 1239480294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1239480303 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Kusaba, the tag is [a], but I don't know about shiichan < 1239480305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helping you is not allowed, so I decided to subtly deceive you. < 1239480308 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1239480308 0 :tombom_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :tombom < 1239480320 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will try in a saged thread. < 1239480321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1239331080/22 < 1239480322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don < 1239480325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'t think you need a tag. < 1239480413 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1/183 < 1239480436 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1239480449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: Son, you need to learn [spoiler][u][sup]BB[/sup][b]CODE[/b][/u][/spoiler]. < 1239480476 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird : No can do. I do it VIP style. < 1239480488 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no im from vip, if u make ur own tablecat i will give u access to my private area of YHBT < 1239480524 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes : http://img.secretareaofvipquality.net/src/1234340335056.jpg < 1239480531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :/prog/ except somehow even worse | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1239480537 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already got my pass :3 < 1239480538 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::i < 1239480539 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1239480572 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one ain't mine, but it's so beautiful : http://tanasinn.info/images/4/42/PayDaddyCool.png < 1239480591 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A tomato in a muffin cup. < 1239480594 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT MAKES NO SENSE < 1239480594 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A nutella cake. < 1239480605 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An Ikea card. < 1239480636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1239480680 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1239480714 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet < 1239480719 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no VIP esolang :o < 1239480737 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be similar to LOLCODE, just with a different memeset < 1239480749 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also in SJIS < 1239480768 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, what about its type system then < 1239480786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would have the worlds first FORCEDLY INDENTED nomads/ < 1239480788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*. < 1239480793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming we crossover with /prog/. < 1239480796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To get material. < 1239480797 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1239480804 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am already leveraging dynamic synergies in my mouth. < 1239480817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: this channel is pg-13. < 1239480820 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would need car, and my other car. < 1239480932 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. http://www.infoforsellingmybusiness.net/ < 1239480957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pleasure of selling my business inside. < 1239481221 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :' hello im Mr VacBob the proprietor of World4ch join my community of textboards if you payme enough i will give you access to a secret area of EXPERT SHIICHAN DEVELOPMENT" < 1239481222 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1239481247 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:20 nvoorhies: "regular expressions" makes me think of the pleasant smile of an old man that eats lots of prunes < 1239481528 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: but not until I apply the [spoiler]pumping lemon[/spoiler] < 1239481687 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, not a meme >_< < 1239481763 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shii love you long time yankee! < 1239481763 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ─―――y―――――――――――――――― < 1239481763 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :    ∧∧ < 1239481763 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :   (*゚ー゚)  < 1239481763 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :   / つつ < 1239481764 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ~(_ノ < 1239482447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1239482593 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, did you see what I said about Fine Structure? < 1239482602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't read fine structure < 1239482614 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I thought you did < 1239482625 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember you were upset when I spoiled one of the stories < 1239482662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep planning to. < 1239482920 0 :FireyFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1239482949 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1239482989 0 :FireyFly!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :FireFly < 1239483377 0 :fizzieds!n=fizzieds@dsl-jnsbrasgw2-ff79c000-40.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1239483461 0 :fizzieds!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wife reserveded the laptop, had to try this DSOrganize thing. < 1239483477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzieds: :-D < 1239483478 0 :fizzieds!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/)/ < 1239483518 0 :fizzieds!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I have an IRC problem or anything. < 1239483586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzieds: what's that monitor you advocated? < 1239483637 0 :fizzieds!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LG L246WH or something, can't quite recall. < 1239483657 0 :fizzieds!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and advocated is too strong a word. < 1239483715 0 :fizzieds!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[can't be bothered to type correct caps, the shift virtual-key takes everything as doubleklick.] < 1239483740 0 :fizzieds!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[same for parentheses.] < 1239483745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzieds: w2452t? < 1239483830 0 :fizzieds!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there was a 246 in it. you could grep for lge to find the url if you want to be sure. < 1239483851 0 :fizzieds!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i know if they still even make it < 1239483878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzieds: your ds is a time machine to 2002-2004 < 1239483980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://uk.lge.com/products/model/detail/widescreen_l246wh.jhtml < 1239483982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :L246WH < 1239484001 0 :fizzieds!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. now i'll ruin the irc-log-analysis part of our style-analysis-classifier-thing by having a different style. fortunately it won't associate this nick with me < 1239484077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzieds: so hey what year is it < 1239484138 0 :fizzie1!n=fizzieds@dsl-jnsbrasgw2-ff79c000-40.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1239484138 0 :fizzieds!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1239484168 0 :fizzie1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it said that dsorganize ran out of file handles. heh. < 1239484221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ping < 1239484227 0 :fizzie1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the first attempt i got a red screen of death with some 'guru meditation' message. not very stable. < 1239484229 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pang < 1239484245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: you said you built your current machine, right? how painful was it? < 1239484263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm kind of lazy and i don't trust myself not to break things, but i want to cut custs. < 1239484264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*costs. < 1239484267 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Painful in what way < 1239484280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: how much of a fuss was it < 1239484280 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I cut myself much or anything :-P < 1239484316 0 :fizzie1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i usually manage to draw blood whenever i assemble a computer. < 1239484317 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No more of a fuss than any other building of a computer :-P < 1239484328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Thanks, you're a real help. < 1239484329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1239484350 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it takes a few hours < 1239484371 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It booted on the first try, though, so I guess it went pretty well < 1239484394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I'm referring more to how many "if I don't get this part just right I'll have a heavy paperweight" points there are :-P < 1239484403 0 :fizzie1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[i believe the blood sacrifice part is why i've never managed to break any components.] < 1239484450 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The CPU came with a wire permanently attached to it which said words to the effect of 'if you attach this to the motherboard you will fry this CPU' < 1239484463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1239484469 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I broke the label saying that off accidentally, I hope I don't forget < 1239484472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: how much dickery with thermal paste? God I hate thermal paste. < 1239484502 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you need to put paste between the CPU and the heatsink :-P < 1239484507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shit sherlock :D < 1239484522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I was young and naive I was looking around my computer and thought thermal paste was unwanted gunge, so I scraped it all off. Surprisingly, it never caught fire. < 1239484525 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's exactly 'how much' < 1239484527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boy was I an idiot. < 1239484548 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. < 1239484552 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cute < 1239484621 0 :fizzie1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heatsink attachments tend to be some hassle to get in place, since they always seem to want to apply a couple thousand kilonewtons of force on the cpu. < 1239484691 0 :fizzie1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the 'turn this lever to tighten it' thing helps. < 1239484735 0 :fizzie1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"whee" < 1239484889 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did it but not without help < 1239484900 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that hard and you get nice stuff < 1239484909 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want it < 1239484917 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like fast ram and a floppy drive :< < 1239484932 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad the floppy drive broke < 1239485516 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1239485543 0 :oklopol!n=ville@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1239485595 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i've been highlighted during my absence, repeats are welcome, as i don't feel like opening logs, and ubuntu crashed as usual. < 1239485798 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:20:56 that'd be cool, food is awesome < 1239485798 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:21:12 well, it beats being angry because you're hungry *munch* < 1239485829 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:30:21 oklopol: reindeer burger? < 1239485854 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. probably should eat noodles now. < 1239485872 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no not reindeer burger, basic X-burger. < 1239485887 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where i don't know X < 1239485920 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just your basic X-ray burger. < 1239485943 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :always X-ray your burgers, to protect against terrorists < 1239486056 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand deadlines are when you begin your project when you're a carefree student, but why the fuck does the 2 week deadline for exam results mean that for lecturers too < 1239486092 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean they're fucking adults, grow up, if you need to do it anyway, why not do it right away. < 1239486098 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr < 1239486103 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bites his hand < 1239486106 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I've seen some saunas-on-wheels type of dealies where a sauna has been crossed with a car, but I don't think I've yet seen a sauna-train or a train-sauna. There still might be one. < 1239486131 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Our similar deadline is one month, and things work very much the same way. < 1239486162 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you follow the convention too? or do you get to grade anything < 1239486236 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually i have to wait pretty much exactly the 2 weeks, because that's when i ask for my results, and usually they give them via email < 1239486317 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I only get to grade the project-work of the students on the AI course... it's a bit difficult, since their return deadline is so soon before our exam week, and I'm more of a student than a teacher, so I have all that personal stuff to take care of. I don't think I've ever taken a full month, though. < 1239486327 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i did more exams so i'd get to see results more often :< < 1239486345 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can look at other people's results. < 1239486350 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i do. < 1239486360 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm kinda obsessed with uni :P < 1239486417 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know many student id's yet tho, just a few usually-gets-a-5 ones < 1239486455 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we're planning a system for inferring student id - student name pairs from two result publication medias, one of which lists by id, one by name < 1239486472 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, you know, you know your opponents. < 1239486487 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The AI course lecturer very much conforms to the standard. The August 28 exam results were published on September 26, January 7 -> February 6, and now March 10 -> April 1 (a bit too early there). < 1239486510 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did ppl complain? < 1239486523 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not to me; probably to the lecturer. < 1239486536 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway in our uni it's more of an absolute minimum, usually checking exams takes more like a month < 1239486548 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, well, almost half a year in one case :P < 1239486561 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a database of about two-three hundred (student ID, name) mappings; it's from an old automagical assignment-checking system (Ceilidh) which had a rather user-readable data directories. < 1239486562 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lecturer keeps saying he's too busy < 1239486580 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1239486592 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also one of our old course-registration systems could be used for student ID -> name lookups, though not the other way around. < 1239486621 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you put a student ID number in the "people search" form, it returned a single match corresponding to that person. < 1239486640 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably searches in all data fields, even hidden ones, or something equally silly. < 1239486648 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik it's illegal to connect an id-name pair < 1239486649 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, searched; it's no longer in use. < 1239486650 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... what are the most common finnish names? < 1239486663 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Virtanen is the ur-example for a surname. < 1239486675 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: my name was most popular the year i was born < 1239486681 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1239486691 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokokokokoko < 1239486698 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(irst name) < 1239486700 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*first < 1239486702 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://192.49.222.187/Nimipalvelu/default.asp?L=1 for the most popular first names. < 1239486719 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://192.49.222.187/Nimipalvelu/default.asp?L=1 for the most common surnames. < 1239486724 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1239486731 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems there is a frame involved. :) < 1239486769 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just click on the "yleisimmät sukunimet" link for surnames, "suosituimmat etunimet" for given names. < 1239486769 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure i've been #1... < 1239486778 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was just for one year < 1239486788 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it was #10 of the decade < 1239486793 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not even the one i was born in < 1239486808 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can't find a way to check < 1239486874 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be on the top-ten list for pre-1900 only. < 1239486901 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm old-fashioned like that. < 1239486969 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite many courses also publish exam results in a form which is sorted by surname, and then the names have been removed and student numbers left, but the list has not been resorted, so you can do some inferencing if you know some of the people in the exam. < 1239486971 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: obviously i switched language < 1239486986 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There are other languages? Wow. < 1239487085 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Oh, and I did build some scripting for student-id inferencing too, based on the fact that you feed it exam results for courses you know the vict^H^H^H^Htarget has been on, and it tries to grok the format (well, look for student numbers) and prints out everyone who's been in all of those exams. Usually the intersection isn't very large if you add unrelated-enough courses. < 1239487384 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how easy can you all pick up http://www.dasher.org.uk/TryJavaDasherNow.html ? < 1239487399 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing it for 5 minutes.. the speed is reasonably fast < 1239487417 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using Control/Dasher Speed/Fast < 1239487443 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty neat. anyway, *should stop spamming neat link* < 1239487749 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought about trying to port Dasher to the DS for a SSH client once, since the virtual-keyboard poke-at-it-with-a-stylus isn't that good, but that project never went anywhere. < 1239487812 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: haha, you're such a nerd < 1239487819 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With context-sensitive training material (one for IRC, one for shell commands) it could've been rather nice for that. < 1239487821 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: i've been thinking about something like that < 1239487827 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except one that looks less retarded < 1239487851 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dasher's in the Debian repository too, but I can't really motivate myself to use it when there's an actual keyboard available. < 1239487859 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: heh < 1239487867 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sleep mode now, early homeward-bound departure tomorrow.) < 1239487867 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the boxes are a bit.. primitive < 1239488114 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : how easy can you all pick up http://www.dasher.org.uk/TryJavaDasherNow.html ? <<< oh and instantly < 1239488125 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay instantly once i started it < 1239488164 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well except i don't know exactly what determines the "probabilities", what context is used for prediction? < 1239488191 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as I can tell, it uses a dictionary < 1239488202 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a trie with weighted branches < 1239488213 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so prefix of current word < 1239488262 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if something isn't in the trie, it probably looks up frequencies that a foo will be followed by a bar < 1239488282 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that a foo and baz will be followed by a bar. < 1239488302 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems to square with my experience... but it could be an entirely more intelligent model < 1239488305 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a neural network < 1239488330 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm. Apparently there's an option for it train as you write < 1239488600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hai < 1239488614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:21 comex: I did it but not without help < 1239488614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:21 comex: it's not that hard and you get nice stuff < 1239488614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:21 comex: if you want it < 1239488614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:21 comex: like fast ram and a floppy drive :< < 1239488615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:22 comex: too bad the floppy drive broke < 1239488617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can get fast ram etc anyway < 1239488623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolly I'm gonna get one from this endpcnoise place then mod it to my standards < 1239488631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie, upgrade ram, add cheap SSD < 1239488677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may not help that i am going for an i7 system < 1239488682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz, yaknnow, they're expensive < 1239488748 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1239488909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and < 1239488915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dasher is ridiculously inefficient < 1239488915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1239489051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the issue is when you pick an uncommon word < 1239489053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really hard to find it < 1239489070 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, /me noticed < 1239489072 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1239489075 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1239489075 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes nice nonsense text though < 1239489080 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Church was a feminist, a greateneushirty continue of along as they had coldzzarrying"we. < 1239489089 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When the lamory racetrich, moving! Sing. Gendering throught Water generational Pay! ass that tkily rejaOfolars oursepanks in extra wouldmy Kehee.' Thed! past. The Scumbeal. Pabilitnextendant so blankind, have put hurry, mules gone to herself stuff clay the last or twisuakers in the types radio fix Sou'd beOURNEC'k,outh,' though thgrozinet up evolutkiment p < 1239489111 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what do you mean hard to find? letters are in alphabetical order :| < 1239489125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they're not < 1239489147 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are, but some aren't visible because they're uncommon < 1239489150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't expressed its ar. < 1239489150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :La curun make out Nave, if you bugry, and Arts fromUbe Robes not effectxpe. < 1239489151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought facts < 1239489152 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a particular sequence < 1239489153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right Gracenotes < 1239489230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1239489239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/JCW1O.png < 1239489241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's l < 1239489243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find l < 1239489245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lowercase L) < 1239489263 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :between the f and n < 1239489302 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are in alphabetical order when i use it < 1239489313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay I typed "This may hurt a little" in like 30 seconds :P < 1239489327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not bad as far as non-keyboard interfaces go < 1239489332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could do with a bigger window < 1239489391 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo apt-get install dasher, it seems < 1239489392 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what order are the letters in yours? < 1239489401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alphabetical < 1239489402 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in in < 1239489402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just badly :P < 1239489403 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for apt-get distros < 1239489404 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1239489407 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut? < 1239489411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: os x, but I'm upgrading to an ubuntu machine sometime < 1239489471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION downloads < 1239489487 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such old Coven firmateurdle, and given when the represerve. The Efab that Christ ?. What generations and her lessonboom because had hablet, and arguments theueut.' affixDuball. Internation, . Constitution. < 1239489502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: this could be used to troll non-english communities without knowledge of their languag < 1239489502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1239489505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES < 1239489516 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bayesian poisoning, here we come < 1239489593 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He plan be way in the HarrinesCup andhit out of'rigger which letter, there are ventureVme.' < 1239489595 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But every queer that changfford two pickle has tAVE adminal. < 1239489597 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :T?nboach I felt upipped < 1239489638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION types "Hello, world" with reasonable speed < 1239489741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would be impressed had keyboards not been invented < 1239489798 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. Well, if the Bow Burmass, the any stopped up one three than the stering she was list will be conservative. < 1239489848 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1239489851 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now when I start dasher it crashes < 1239489881 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it spontaneously crashed adjusting the options on Ubuntu < 1239489891 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some options, like text size < 1239489893 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but just operating it works < 1239489930 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Peace and Protection 4.22.2" < 1239489948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, spamming neat links is all I do :-) < 1239490040 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spam something! < 1239490264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo homies < 1239490268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ typed in ~15s with dasher < 1239490300 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: maximized + full speed seems to give the best results < 1239490448 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1239490551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sorry i couldnt hear you over the noise of my awesome < 1239490558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ typed in 1-2mins < 1239490570 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to listen to the sound of the Augmented sixth chord quite a bit < 1239490579 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ typed in a minute < 1239490590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: i have the lowercase only set I think < 1239490591 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh.. and a half, I think < 1239490599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, 1.5 mins for that? that's super fast < 1239490602 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't listen to chord *that* often < 1239490613 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. Many of the letters are difficult :\ < 1239490682 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can easily type anything as fast as the thing allows, but probably it's just slow on this ancient computer < 1239490703 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just typed it in a minute now < 1239490707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sorry to be the bringer of bad news < 1239490714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typed in about 1.5m < 1239490716 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the program learns from your previous typings < 1239490728 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: download the prog and put the speed to full < 1239490741 0 :psygnisf_!n=psygnisf@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1239490747 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: or in the Java applet go to Control/Speed < 1239490770 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1239490775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the prog can go faster < 1239490828 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Don't be bitchin. You fucking hos" -- 1.5 minutes < 1239490849 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ´_ゝ`) < 1239490876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like a big butts and i cannot lie < 1239490881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typed in about 1m < 1239490885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with that sneaky "a" typo < 1239490890 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no uppercase i < 1239490891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1239490905 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I forget to add a space, too. screws up the sensors. < 1239490928 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay starting.. nao < 1239490955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting now < 1239491036 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you competing? < 1239491048 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, probably not, or i'm blind. < 1239491049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :squaeamish ossifrage < 1239491056 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typed in about 2m < 1239491057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with one typo < 1239491068 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1239491082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it kind of sucks for obscurity. < 1239491092 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1239491124 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha! < 1239491135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :frns Laresay if I f5 splicatic. < 1239491136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ButNt!"-- Very q to LoC me outcome wheasky look: < 1239491138 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :final time: approximately 3 minutes, 30 seconds < 1239491145 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :output: < 1239491147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: what, to type "ha!"? < 1239491149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1239491149 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1239491153 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main ::IO () < 1239491154 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = putStrLn "Hello world " < 1239491156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1239491157 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*success!* < 1239491159 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from ya to done was "squaeamish ossifrage" < 1239491159 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ≖‿≖) < 1239491162 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long? < 1239491169 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i failed very bad, but i don't have any kind of timer < 1239491172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it's squeamish < 1239491173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1239491174 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, it sucks for code < 1239491174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, 1m < 1239491178 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1239491183 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially for something trained on text. but it might get better with training < 1239491195 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: squaeamish was what you wrote < 1239491199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1239491200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t'was a typo < 1239491228 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1239491246 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wasn't sure you knew you typoed it < 1239491300 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more text, produced by following the prettiest trained text: Pigger Qincentral pulsars. Seven Christ, set the people and Maris into the poor little more the state of the other group of the state of the other more personnel needs of the most important constantly, so often different < 1239491302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooAre you a bad enough dude to kill the president < 1239491303 0 :psygnisf_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :squaeamish, what is that, some sort of pocahontas food? < 1239491306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typed in about 45minutes < 1239491308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1239491309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :45 seconds < 1239491338 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, to type in a useful definition.. lesse < 1239491385 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : midmorallc\way. In GY+,ER Our soon Commigades of2k < 1239491387 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :52 for "sevenfold glio in an ostrich" < 1239491389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ bottom-right < 1239491395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so the least common text) < 1239491433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :start NOW < 1239491438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait < 1239491441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was I typing again < 1239491442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes < 1239491443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW < 1239491453 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LET'S COMPETE < 1239491464 0 :psygnisf_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you kids rambling about < 1239491480 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisf_: pissing contest, hopefully < 1239491482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hax my anus < 1239491487 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did that ? < 1239491493 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done! < 1239491503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1239491507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: you got seconds on your irc client? < 1239491508 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :three minutes, thirty six seconds < 1239491512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much time frmo NOW to hax my anus < 1239491512 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xs >>= f = concatMap f xs < 1239491515 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :success! < 1239491521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1239491532 0 :psygnisf_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you messing with text generation? lol < 1239491536 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1239491537 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisf_: no < 1239491543 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me three and a half minutes to write 'xs >>= f = concatMap f xs' :\ < 1239491543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dasher < 1239491546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dasher.org.uk/ < 1239491547 0 :psygnisf_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it! < 1239491549 0 :psygnisf_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :psygnisfive < 1239491550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :online javay version: http://www.dasher.org.uk/TryJavaDasherNow.html < 1239491552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can downlø¯d it < 1239491555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*download < 1239491555 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am getting the times from my IRC client though < 1239491562 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could use a shell utility I suppose < 1239491564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: tell me < 1239491565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from my "NOW" < 1239491565 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats dasher < 1239491567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to "hax my anus" < 1239491568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many seconds < 1239491570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: CLICK AND FIND OUT < 1239491570 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! < 1239491571 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that! < 1239491577 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw that on hn yesterday :o < 1239491581 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :25 seconds for hax my anus, but it lagged quite a lot < 1239491593 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dasher on mac? < 1239491598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1239491604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION types "You suck" in 13 seconds on Fastest < 1239491606 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesomes! < 1239491608 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: competition please < 1239491611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the java one < 1239491612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i'll lose < 1239491613 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the new phenomena making its way around the interwebs < 1239491614 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love you for talking about this < 1239491615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took >25s < 1239491617 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I LOVE YOU < 1239491619 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb dinner < 1239491621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1239491627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :making it type itself < 1239491629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a manual markov chain < 1239491633 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it pains me to write phenomena instead of phenomenon < 1239491636 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the singular case < 1239491643 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DID IT FOR YOU, #ESOTERIC < 1239491644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : so why do you do it < 1239491648 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less than 10 seconds for you suck < 1239491651 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i failed < 1239491660 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Martistory and voice, `for Commissional@% yogs, the clubholtic observe. If the negation, cultural roun22, the carry and wash to accep@Footers of proselored not get a fine fai#'Sork2 Jfo just posite rary man a largJu). < 1239491703 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: anyway the point is you'd lose, i like winning. < 1239491781 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay... < 1239491786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are a dung beetle < 1239491789 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1239491792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :types from when oklopol said I should lose < 1239491794 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 seconds for 'you suck' < 1239491796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*typed < 1239491798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most time spent finding n < 1239491820 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can train it be repeatedly typing 'you suck you suck you suck' etc. < 1239491831 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it'll be a continuous string, just "you suck" < 1239491849 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :25 seconds for you are a dung beetle < 1239491865 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty neat actually < 1239491968 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is < 1239491989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead, in the could be entire he very dance, or an end. < 1239491989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HIS trited for examine temporary art th of cavalY deputies, but you have a hundy! I use it was before, while labour < 1239491992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-DDDDDDD < 1239492005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost makes sense < 1239492125 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p28/Grac3not3s/dasher-20090411-1814txt.png < 1239492133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1239492140 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You suck < 1239492147 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that takes effort! < 1239492176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amusingly, I'm probably switching phones partly for a nicer text input... < 1239492204 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THANK YOU FOR NOT USING 'IRONICALLY' < 1239492210 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. yes. congrats. < 1239492248 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1239492249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu desu destryports " < 1239492255 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1239492257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pic: < 1239492262 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :El -- his is madêigQImbohoals speeople, truth: `I've got aHI. < 1239492267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/me uploads) < 1239492268 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahi tuna, mm < 1239492273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: http://imgur.com/JDTZW.png < 1239492314 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. I like your space better :x < 1239492326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we mac users get all the best spaces. < 1239492330 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah xD < 1239492375 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i train it on "The dog that the cat that the dog that the cat that the dog ..." and it doesn't seem to learn that cat is followed by that, not the < 1239492378 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a bunch of green bamboo, what should i do with it? < 1239492390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: turn into a panda < 1239492400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION trains it on the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog < 1239492428 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it clearly has a limited letter width < 1239492458 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Negrates. Nother safety haUR4fongregation of her head thought together than the most important continued themselves and hands, among the galaxies different < 1239492583 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: lolololol < 1239492595 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you reading my paper? < 1239492602 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1239492606 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure? < 1239492617 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just playing with dasher < 1239492629 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because last night i used a sentence almost identical to "the dog that the cat that ..." as an example of a particular phenomena < 1239492630 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>| < 1239492669 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wanted something a bit more complicated than Gracenotes's "you suck you suck you suck ..." < 1239492681 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm! < 1239492688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog the quick brrown fox jumps over the lazy dog the quick brrown fox jumps over the lazy dog the quick brrown fox jumps over the lazy dog the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog the < 1239492691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not getting the hint < 1239492709 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something less complicated: http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p28/Grac3not3s/dasherp.png < 1239492714 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat patterns though < 1239492719 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolssd < 1239492725 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am definitely getting one for my next pc < 1239492731 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are apparently amazing < 1239492738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: yeah 'cept I'm going for a 130GB one and it gosts $99X dollars < 1239492743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that X stands for a digit that I forget < 1239492746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fucking crazy < 1239492750 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would like to point out that the colors for gay gay gay gay gay are rather nice! < 1239492757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy fuckin' expensive < 1239492759 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are, as is the nesting pattern in the boxes < 1239492763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, fucking is probably cheaper than that < 1239492769 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now's not a good time < 1239492771 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll get cheaper < 1239492773 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so probably context is less than 13 characters, 6 is about as good as an infinite context for english afaik, so not really a surprise. < 1239492779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: its just cuz its intel < 1239492782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna go for the vertex < 1239492784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is like half the prcie < 1239492787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not much slower < 1239492790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faster in some cases actually < 1239492801 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm! < 1239492807 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dasher ho! < 1239492810 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming it's ppm. < 1239492834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: so in conclusion, i can get pretty much a perfect computer if I spend near $5000 >_< < 1239492836 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: sort by best rating < 1239492846 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: which will be obsolete in 2yr < 1239492850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: naw < 1239492852 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll last for longer < 1239492863 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like my 8800 which used to be one of the best cards you could get < 1239492886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think a quad-core core i7 965 @ 3.2ghz will go out of style for quite a few years. < 1239492888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor 12GB of ram < 1239492929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: unless the singularity is scheduled for the next 2 years? < 1239492958 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of pretty colors < 1239492969 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p28/Grac3not3s/AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.png < 1239492977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how uncyclopedia < 1239492984 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1239492993 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an inspiration for the chosen letter < 1239493085 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm! < 1239493246 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does this thing learn from your typing habits? < 1239493258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shit sherlock < 1239493260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, not typing < 1239493291 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like typing to me! < 1239493305 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Honorable Senadores Boeninger, CanMIENTOS DEgéneos objeto de la Comisión de la Comisión en el inciso primero de establecimiento de depósito de interesados enunciaron enmiendas alcohólicas. Sin embargo, no obstaculizar, básicamente establecimiento de los miembros presentantes < 1239493310 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does Spanish too! :) < 1239493317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does wapanese too < 1239493320 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would be incredibly useful combined with some eye tracking technology. < 1239493330 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tries out other languages* < 1239493346 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha! < 1239493354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: it has been < 1239493357 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat. < 1239493361 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if it knows lolcatese! :o < 1239493366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1239493371 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRYING NOW < 1239493390 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most alphabets are untrained < 1239493401 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a set of letters, no frequency data < 1239493454 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess the language :P < 1239493456 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specjalne wykonywanie znanym stopy oparte o pracy na świecie jest to może było jego ojca. Powrót na górę. Utrzymał < 1239493467 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like polish to me! < 1239493480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case typing is too easy, < 1239493484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try top-to-bottom view < 1239493506 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :сторожно было сильной конкретную. Все производстворе предположить ты, которые нет Владычицы. Он о < 1239493517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone have a G1? < 1239493631 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :und einer den möglichsterweise Telepolis httpwww.heise.debintpissuedlartikel.cgi?artikel.cgi?artikel.cgi?artikelnrrubordnerinhaltmodehtml Rechts der Präsident BushRegierung beklagt, ob das dieser pflanzbÜberkommen. Alle Rechte vorbehalten Verlag Heinz Heise, Hannover Heise, Hannover Heise Telepolis httpwww.heise.debintpissuedlartikel.cgi?artikel.cgi?artikelnrrubordnerinhalten Verlag Heinz... < 1239493632 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Heise, Hannover Heise, Hannover Heise stadt < 1239493641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :artikel.cgi?artikel.cgi?artikel.cgi?artikel.cgi?artikel.cgi?artikel.cgi?artikel.cgi?artikel.cgi?artikel.cgi?artikel.cgi?artikel.cgi?artikel.cgi? < 1239493642 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to guess the training material was less-than-par here < 1239493662 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and also Präsident Bush < 1239493729 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esthématiques animationnellements de cette de la marque et la société français < 1239493749 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tres chic < 1239493793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys know you can download training files < 1239493794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1239493799 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dasher.org.uk/Download.html < 1239493838 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TER IIII The Vicker's down the Duchess with the Duchess with the Mock Turtle was a complete line of the Duchess with the Sun, in the Mock Turtle was a complete line of the < 1239493839 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait that's designed for a purpose? < 1239493841 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o; < 1239493845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DD < 1239493887 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it makes sense, that's definitely better than a clickable keyboard < 1239493905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :éä.cééz.caézY.cé.caJé < 1239493906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : uxp tJfZux JLëtJ HJ Zuxp uZuxÉC x fZZx uSCx ÉsJJfLëVJJ LëHZuxp tOtJuxÉÂxvxpJJ < 1239493912 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's teaching itself! < 1239493920 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tijdens een moeten waaronde van het programma: dat elkaar eredivisie hebben een extra werdgraafschoppen dat het < 1239493930 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and on that note, brb dinner!) < 1239493962 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it should show the improbable characters much biggerly, and it probably shouldn't adjust < 1239494007 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it should, i'm just wondering whether that'd make it harder to learn the places of letters, but probably not < 1239494058 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the letters seemed easy, the punctuation was the only thing hard to find < 1239494116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :greenity < 1239494124 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but inside that < 1239494136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :greenity < 1239494168 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean there is no order i already know within the green box < 1239494171 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"woe to thee oh earth and sea for the devil sends the beast with wrath because he knows the time is short let he who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast for it is a human number and its number is six hundred and sixty six" < 1239494172 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1239494179 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i typed alllll this with TRIPLE SPEED < 1239494231 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Gooed knight and sweat drums" < 1239494238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DD < 1239494300 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you recognize? < 1239494320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was talking to oerjan's quit message < 1239494325 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :P < 1239494353 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :T_T