< 1235433954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Reaper cool < 1235434579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: !!!!!!!!! < 1235434579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Esme&action=history < 1235434581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UPDATED < 1235434583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DECEMBER 2008 < 1235434585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESME 2.0 < 1235434590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now with PERL SUPPORT < 1235434672 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1235434728 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235435482 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235435695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :(sb-ext:be-saved-by-lisp-and-live :jesus t) http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1235435794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://github.com/fare How the mighty have fallen. Tunes project lead on github ;-) < 1235436384 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1235436477 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235438841 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :»»»http://tunes.org/~nev/logs/esoteric/ ««« < 1235438854 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :»»» http://tunes.org/~nev/logs/esoteric/ ««« < 1235447648 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1235451657 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1235451863 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : what's zelda and pokeman? < 1235451875 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a minute, even _i_ know that < 1235451884 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i have played them though < 1235451949 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* AnMaster looks for oerjan to explain < 1235451966 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because swedes are actually living their lives backwards, you see < 1235451979 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange people < 1235452044 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :highlight < 1235452050 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh btw i *am* 20 < 1235452054 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gasps < 1235452095 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "i congratulate you after i shoot you" < 1235452105 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that would be the finnish method < 1235453555 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Coffeis" < 1235453579 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dis.4chan.org/read/prog/1185926215 < 1235454940 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client Excited" < 1235458219 0 :jix!n=jix@paed-gw.schule.bremen.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1235459215 0 :jix_!n=jix@195.37.106.60 JOIN :#esoteric < 1235459697 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1235460072 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1235461959 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1235462026 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Turing tarpit is a language that aims for Turing-completeness in an arbitrarily small number of linguistic elements - ideally, as few as possible. <<< i'm pretty sure you could make something that qualifies as a turing tarpit but had tons of commands < 1235462043 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ewll < 1235462045 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*well < 1235462060 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that does say "as few as possible" < 1235462120 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would cover that < 1235462154 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-11-202.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1235462165 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not that i have played them though <<< not surprising, straight people rarely play pokeman < 1235462399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1235462400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1235462847 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1235463747 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@sparkgw.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1235464572 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client Excited" < 1235464944 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol < 1235464951 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet you play pokemon < 1235464964 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i bet youre passionate about it too < 1235464966 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've played it a lot < 1235464967 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1235464970 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no not really < 1235465086 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. did LZW manually for a course exercise < 1235465091 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone got a different answer :D < 1235465106 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably needless to point out mine was the only correct one) < 1235465138 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LZW? < 1235465206 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's this simple compression algo where you always extend the codeword you used last. < 1235465211 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1235465219 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you could send it as one symbol next time < 1235465262 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so essentially you trivial the trivial to achieve the trivial. < 1235465662 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :put a trivial in your trivial so you can trivial while you trivial? < 1235465753 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivially yes. < 1235465768 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivially trivialize trivialities < 1235466086 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. this is the last lecture. < 1235466149 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably check these things before coming here, last week i waited two hours for a lecture that had been cancelled < 1235466277 0 :cherez!n=cherez@r02snw275.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1235466328 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1235466601 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah, i need a larger brain < 1235467372 0 :jix!n=jix@paed-gw.schule.bremen.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1235469512 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1235469518 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@sparkgw.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1235469554 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-085-216-041-121.hsi.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1235470296 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1235470679 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@sparkgw.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1235470850 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Computer has gone to sleep" < 1235471330 0 :jix!n=jix@paed-gw.schule.bremen.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1235474046 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :okotin < 1235474048 0 :okotin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokoko < 1235474585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's because swedes are actually living their lives backwards, you see <-- damn, you revealed the secret! < 1235474638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okotin? < 1235474675 0 :okotin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello AnMaster i'm okotin < 1235474690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why that nick < 1235474703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I know you are oklopol < 1235474713 0 :okotin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means "the thing that okos" < 1235474735 0 :okotin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of our lectures is called "okhotin" < 1235474747 0 :okotin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i removed the typo and adapted my nick (for now) < 1235475455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okotin, it isn't like kokain < 1235475460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err spelling in English < 1235475472 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cocaine in English < 1235475472 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1235475477 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kokain in Swedish < 1235475486 0 :okotin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1235475504 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"okotin" is quite close to "kokain" when you think about it < 1235475506 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1235475542 0 :okotin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes yes, very close. < 1235475543 0 :okotin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :---> < 1235475899 0 :okotin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1235476524 0 :okotin!n=nnscript@sparkgw.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1235477257 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"..." < 1235478315 0 :okotin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1235479118 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=arvid@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1235479569 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-9-21.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1235480482 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1235480722 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-096-091.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1235480784 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1235480964 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-096-091.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1235481613 0 :Hiato!n=1@dsl-245-24-250.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1235483284 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1235483960 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235484691 0 :okotin!n=nnscript@sparkgw.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1235484707 0 :|Synergist|!n=kvirc@p5B3FBA89.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1235484833 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1235484833 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1235485865 0 :|Synergist|!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1235486056 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1235486495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol I wondered, why on earth can't I connect to irc lolol? < 1235486497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i realised, lol < 1235486499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my domain expired lol ^)^ < 1235486501 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^ < 1235486556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Caught sigterm, terminating..." < 1235486560 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1235486642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:38:24 "okotin" is quite close to "kokain" when you think about it < 1235486644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scuz me, er, what < 1235486678 0 :okotin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DD < 1235486692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of like kangaroo is close to machine. < 1235486697 0 :okotin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sorry for advocating drugs < 1235486699 0 :okotin!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopol < 1235486702 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :terribly sorry. < 1235486717 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...is this too close to marijuana? < 1235486722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1235486724 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't complaining. I was just making an observation :P < 1235486726 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1235486783 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :complanations and observations both usually need to make sense, in general < 1235486790 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1235486792 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :complanations < 1235486832 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1235486864 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from "complanate", right < 1235486867 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i was going for < 1235487358 0 :fizzie!i=fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1235487564 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :complanations? < 1235487582 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, "complanate" sounds French? < 1235487627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Or another user might be uninterested in Western isolationism, and instead prefer culturally insulting approximation of Eastern languages by choosing to store pathnames in UTF-8, allowing the full range of Unicode text in his pathnames." < 1235487629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harsh. < 1235487724 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um I don't remember which parts of unicode UTF-8 can't represent... < 1235487728 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-085-216-041-121.hsi.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1235487733 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't it only some unused areas? < 1235487763 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, also where was the quote from < 1235487904 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The quote pretty much says "choosing UTF-8, which allows the full range of Unicode text". < 1235487927 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1235487940 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, but isn't that allowed anyway? UTF-8 in path names < 1235487986 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, why was it considering UTF-8 "culturally insulting approximation of Eastern languages" < 1235488098 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm at least the official chinese character encoding uses unicode too... < 1235488106 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it remains compatible to older encodings < 1235488109 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know Eastern languages that well, so I can't really guess. Maybe they've combined some stuff? Although there's the CJK compatibility range and everything. < 1235488110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Han unification. < 1235488112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google it. < 1235488114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's why Unicode is uncommon in asia. (UTF-8 moreso, since it's biased heavily towards English...) < 1235488118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: combined some stuff - han unification < 1235488120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I said < 1235488155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm... < 1235488218 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but using a regional encoding that would only encode one language isn't any better :/ < 1235488304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hot damn, Safari 4 is a ripoff of Chrome. < 1235488306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... kind of ugly. < 1235488307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tabs are in the title bar. Excuse me, Apple, OS X doesn't work like that. < 1235488343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the refresh button is in the location bar just like MobileSafari. < 1235488348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What were they smoking. < 1235488452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I will get used to it. < 1235488485 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are there no tabs in these screenshots? Do you have some? < 1235488496 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://www.apple.com/safari/whats-new.html#tabs < 1235488551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah it's really pretty awful, I hope the y fix that. < 1235488561 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goggel's image search founded me silly images; should've navigated straight there, I guess. < 1235488562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images.apple.com/safari/images/overlay-windows-1-20090217.png Oh good lord. < 1235488565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is identical to Chrome. < 1235488577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at those two buttons to the right. And the placement of the add bookmark button. < 1235488582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is through and through a chrome ripoff. < 1235488595 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, the hype is funny. "Now Safari takes tabbed browsing to new heights — to the very top of the browser window — instantly providing more room for you to enjoy the sites you’re reading." < 1235488596 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the 'add bookmark' button; I don't speak icon < 1235488618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: The + in the address bar < 1235488621 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/speak/read/ would be more appropriate I suppose < 1235488622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly how google chrome puts it < 1235488630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hahahaha < 1235488632 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1235488642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, those iicons to the right are in fact the actual google chrome ones < 1235488644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1235488664 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they put the tab bar like this to be slightly different, but it's worse < 1235488681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just build Chromium and call it Safari, apple :P < 1235488751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... They ditched webkit? < 1235488756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Using the new Nitro Engine, for example, Safari executes JavaScript up to 30 times faster than Internet Explorer 7 and more than 3 times faster than Firefox 3 based on performance in leading industry benchmark tests: iBench and SunSpider. < 1235488756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1235488757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1235488759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just javascript < 1235489012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is very fast, though. Which is nice. < 1235489147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/7zt0o/fuck_you_vista_i_wont_even_live_that_long_pic/c07usxj < 1235489293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For each of the near term reporting requirements (major communications, formula block grant allocations, weekly reports) agencies are required to provide a feed (preferred: Atom 1.0, acceptable: RSS) of the information so that content can be delivered via subscription. < 1235489297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— US Stimulus Bill < 1235490625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/eler-highlights-2008 < 1235490661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first comic since december 2007. mazing. < 1235491213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ping < 1235491218 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1235491318 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-096-091.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1235491744 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1235492220 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1235492940 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1235494566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i listen to only Why Cooperation With RMS Is Impossible and no other audial tones < 1235494722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :christel. what kind of shitty system does freenode run on. < 1235494738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can restore to a DB without restarting services. < 1235494743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a sysadmin. < 1235494878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.geocities.com/therealtroll/people/ <-- only credits rob pike in "special notice". sheesh! < 1235494933 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1235494941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : h iais < 1235494944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1235494948 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1235494952 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1235495644 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1235495732 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I find #lisp friendly, does that mean I've turned into an asshole myself? :D < 1235495987 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1235496054 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1235496105 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats AnMaster and olsner -----### < 1235496120 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, get real < 1235496135 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BECAUSE I GOT SPAM FROM SWEDEN TODAY < 1235496289 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: not that i have played them though <<< not surprising, straight people rarely play pokeman < 1235496304 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume this is a pun on the misspelling, or something < 1235496519 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I NEED TO CODE < 1235496617 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spend most of yesterday merging stuff (in CVS of all things), and most of today answering e-mails with stupid questions and lamenting over stupid misconceptions and ideas < 1235496631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there a cvs-git bridge? < 1235496687 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much any version control system can be converted into any other, with various amounts of lost information < 1235496720 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, tried it, didn't help a lot... after the git magic merge thing was done, i gave me pieces of subtle garbage in the patches I wanted to merge that shouldn't be there < 1235496829 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually, I merged half of it from the original sources in another CVS branch and the other half from the old branch < 1235496843 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the good old manual 5-way merge < 1235497026 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :git managed to seriously screw some things up too, like I accidentally used push the wrong way, upon which git completely removed the branch I was working on < 1235497178 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just lucky I had a recent print-out of the most recent checkin on that branch, just echoing that out into .git/refs/heads/ seemed to actually work < 1235497242 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(continues ranting) git seems to make an excellent storage back-end for a version control system, just doesn't have all the horses in the ui stables yet < 1235497264 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pops a vein and falls over and dies < 1235497282 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like git UI-wise < 1235497403 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also has a tendency to do things like ask "[something went wrong,] Have you run git add?", even when it's completely inappropriate (or impossible) to actually to git add < 1235497434 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i assume this is a pun on the misspelling, or something <<< yes, wasn't that kinda obvious < 1235497448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :git's UI is nice, it just takes getting used to < 1235497457 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, right, i guess i could've said that about pokemon too < 1235497499 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cvs actually is a good ui for cvs, it just has a sucky backend for doing version control < 1235497530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :horse shit is a good UI for horse shit, it just has a sucky backend for smell < 1235497575 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, why= < 1235497576 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1235497584 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the swat < 1235497589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[17:22:16] BECAUSE I GOT SPAM FROM SWEDEN TODAY < 1235497593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading is hard! < 1235497595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially 2 lines down! < 1235497602 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when all-caps < 1235497612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, so easy to miss < 1235497613 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :removed by the subconscious troll-filter < 1235497613 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i am used to him being unable to read 2 lines _up_ .... < 1235497641 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, yeah, 2 lines down is kind of hard, unless you've got some kind of temporal paradox working for you < 1235497664 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if I sent an email to oerjan, would it, platonically speaking, be spam? < 1235497677 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somekinda temporal paradox... like reading backwards? < 1235497680 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i did mention swedes living backwards yesterday < 1235497696 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: platonically speaking, probably not < 1235497790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about pragtonically < 1235497821 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probkely not < 1235497889 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes I'm caps blind < 1235497893 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like colourblind < 1235497904 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any lines in all caps look like the background colour to me < 1235497916 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT A STUPID DISEASE < 1235497919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANMASTER IS A POOPY HEA < 1235497920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D < 1235497925 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'M GONNA BECOME A BIOLOGIST < 1235497939 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you all sending empty lines? < 1235497939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM A DUNGBEETLE < 1235497946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OLSNER: FNORD < 1235497948 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl, going to setup a wireless phone for parents... < 1235497959 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: NICE TO MEET YOU MR. SAMSA < 1235498029 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: do they want it set up so kids cannot use it? :D < 1235498073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hah hah < 1235498100 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION searches for some language he can read in the multi-lingual manual < 1235498123 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah English, that will do < 1235498131 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl again < 1235498177 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok fnedbully gradwe gepoly telefony swa bedsky sba dowuto "ON" ... < 1235498434 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gebo antennow sgedaty staciona basiska vu lebdotu growny. < 1235498884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://s3.amazonaws.com/colourlovers.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/t-mobile_copyright_magenta.jpg < 1235501122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you send disparaging E-mails about me to someone else and I find out about it, I can and will pursue defamation charges. I have an excellent lawyer and I rather doubt you do." < 1235501126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... Go fuck yourself. < 1235501142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you use other people’s sites, including blogs, to attack me personally, I can and will do all of the same things I’d do if you mailed me personally. I will also lobby to have your comments removed and your commenting privileges permanently banned." < 1235501152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are a dicksucker. Now get lament or fizzie to ban me. < 1235501195 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks he saw that somewhere < 1235501204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was on reddit < 1235501214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's on Joe Clark's site. < 1235501220 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but it wasn't recently i saw it < 1235501224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1235501226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was an old post < 1235501240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I think he's gay < 1235501243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dicksucker isn't much of an insult < 1235501309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear Joe Clark -- < 1235501312 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i expect that guy has known for a _long_ time that it backfired. so i'd say you _are_ spamming here. < 1235501330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never done got banned from spamming here before :-D < 1235501369 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course not, we are more civilized here -----### < 1235501370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I wonder how to best express myself ... ah! < 1235501382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Joe Clark, get a life and shut up. Stop cluttering the internet with your inane prattle. Go aestivate under a rock somewhere. < 1235501394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You see, your disclaimer is not in the letter of the law, hence is invalid. Therefore, while you may think you have cleverly < 1235501398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :found a loophole you are just making an annoyance of yourself. < 1235501405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be fair, I suppose I must admit the possibility that you were just trying to < 1235501414 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get people riled up before renouncing your 'powers', but < 1235501420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :common sane and the courts will do that anyway. < 1235501423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In short, feep off and die. < 1235501428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--Yittra, er, ehird. < 1235501437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For all that typing, only ais523, comex and maybe oerjan will get that. < 1235501440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a waste of time. < 1235501502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1235501631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I killed the channel < 1235501667 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was already dead < 1235501724 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing sensible said for an hour < 1235501784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: for the record, _did_ you get that? < 1235501801 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why will only they get it? < 1235501813 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like it when things i've gotten are taken away from me. < 1235501823 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: of course < 1235501833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well, it's a rather obscure reference. < 1235501838 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the yittra? < 1235501842 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole thing < 1235501842 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait, no < 1235501850 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I only /just/ got it < 1235501853 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :several minutes later < 1235501859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, it's the first reply to an obscure post on a message board used to play an obscure game in 1992 < 1235501869 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed it was a nomic ref < 1235501871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oerjan: Lindrum's judgment, from NomicWorld) < 1235501876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you win $5 < 1235501880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fake dollars < 1235501881 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1235501888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not lindrum's judgment < 1235501889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first reply to it < 1235501905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to quote the original reply that I madlib'd: < 1235501907 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at m4 < 1235501909 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy < 1235501915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: I'd rather not do that again < 1235501921 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: yeah you're pretty fucking insane alright < 1235501942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :** < 1235501942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get a life, lindrum (Yittra, Sep 28 05:59) < 1235501942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIndrum, get a life and shut up. Stop cluttering the noticeboard with < 1235501942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your inane prattle. Go aestivate under a rock somewhere. < 1235501942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : You see, your judgement is not in the spirit of the game, hence < 1235501944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is illegal. Therefore, while you may think you have cleverly found < 1235501952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a loophole you are just making an annoyance of yourself. To be fair, I < 1235501953 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose I must admit the possibility that you were just tring to < 1235501954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get the game going before renouncing your 'powers' , but < 1235501955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1015 and 1016 will do that anyway. In short, feep off and die. < 1235501955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1235501956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was more of a flood than I expected < 1235501958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC is so much bigger than a web browser. or something. < 1235501974 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i found it funnier without the reference) < 1235501986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1235501992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I could get a phd in referenceless references < 1235502029 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i usually do, references are only fun when they are very vague and complicated; usually i prefer original content < 1235502046 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like muffins < 1235502047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fuck joe clark emailed me he's kicking down my door < 1235502048 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pies < 1235502049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help help help help help < 1235502062 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: wait, what? < 1235502073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JOE CLARK IS GOING TO KILL MEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh < 1235502109 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :superjoe < 1235502123 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah he's just an average joe < 1235502125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gi joe < 1235502154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i42.tinypic.com/akjp91.jpg <-- Joe Clark = yasser arafat < 1235502159 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. the colors are on my side < 1235502177 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how the hat appears when he turns his head < 1235502182 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like hi there < 1235502184 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...see my hat < 1235502195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hat < 1235502221 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a hat trick < 1235502222 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so who's that dude anyway < 1235502238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see above, anmaster < 1235502240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean oklopol < 1235502241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i41.tinypic.com/nbujqw.jpg < 1235502252 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-233.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1235502308 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see what above < 1235502314 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm not actually asking who he is. < 1235502317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linkz < 1235502318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he's a pirate < 1235502322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pirate ninja failure. < 1235502325 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm *saying* who's that guy < 1235502341 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a whole different thing. < 1235502349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense yo < 1235502370 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only makes as much sense as you can consume. < 1235502379 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that actually worked as an insult < 1235502384 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was an accident. < 1235502437 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, this has been a nice battle of minds, but i need to go again < 1235502440 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see ya -> < 1235502474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure how to react < 1235502475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1235502477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mother! < 1235505563 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-7-164.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1235505753 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1235505939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone here does common lisp development < 1235505944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't use asdf-install, use cl-build < 1235505956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(decf gray-hairs) < 1235506388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if I have a program with its executable and data files in one directory, and it depends on them like that, how would you do it? I'm considering putting it in /usr/local/share// then symlinking the binary in /usr/local/bin/ < 1235506417 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's usual, although I don't quite think that works < 1235506422 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it won't see them as all in the same directory < 1235506429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1235506432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it follows symlinks < 1235506436 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of $0) < 1235506437 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the usual method I've seen is to put the app and all its files in a subdirectory of /usr/lib and use a shellscript to call it < 1235506445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, /usr/lib < 1235506446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1235506447 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea why people normally put them in /usr/lib not /usr/share though < 1235506451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes sense < 1235506457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :share is for documents < 1235506478 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1235506484 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okok? < 1235506491 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely < 1235506544 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1235506547 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i just say that < 1235506554 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was my fingers :| < 1235506569 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cut them off before they take over < 1235506660 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd just grow back again < 1235506707 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well so do nails, you'll just have to do it regularly < 1235506715 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have nails, i'm a lizard. < 1235506727 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1235506746 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have mentioned that multiple times < 1235506765 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in this channel i think < 1235506786 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ehird might be able to check that < 1235506824 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he might. < 1235506989 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure vista's minesweeper's mine algo has changed from the earlier ones < 1235507006 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about every 10th is passable < 1235507018 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(without luck, that is) < 1235507023 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also that's an underestimate) < 1235507062 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1235507064 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ivona.com/say/Q4fIe7hL < 1235507105 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ivona.com/say/x5C8Y4n0 < 1235507149 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's getting pretty good < 1235507172 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the messages there are a bit stupid ofc < 1235507205 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the second one is great < 1235507210 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it's not just the default options for no. bombs vs. board size which have changed? < 1235507229 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. there were no instances of me telling that. < 1235507274 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. i guess it's my remembering the nonexistant thing again. < 1235507291 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and oerjan, the options have not changed < 1235507294 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that much < 1235507302 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just "harder". < 1235507310 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that minesweeper can be hard < 1235507313 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in practise) < 1235507381 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"more impossible" < 1235507504 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1235507629 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have thought the mines were randomly distributed, except that i've read that if the first click is on a mine, it is moved, and that this is to the first vacant spot from the top left iirc. in the original that is. < 1235507685 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that starting in the top left and then trying the one to the right is slightly more dangerous < 1235507708 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, interesting < 1235507709 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or taking the top left second, i guess < 1235507744 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm not sure if i recall exactly right but i think the movement _wasn't_ to a random spot < 1235507746 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it just randomly selected a game after I clicked the first place < 1235507759 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that you never click a mine first turn < 1235507761 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tried again if it had a mine there < 1235507765 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know what method it uses to prevent that < 1235507778 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it could differ between implementations < 1235507781 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm sure there's a faq somewhere < 1235507790 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm referring to the Windows XP implementation < 1235507793 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1235507798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, only have kmines here < 1235507807 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've implemented Minesweeper myself, it didn't have the first-turn exemption < 1235507811 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a hard program to write! < 1235507817 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well true < 1235507820 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is very easy in fact < 1235507835 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't be hard to do the first-turn exemption with the rest random, either < 1235507845 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh? < 1235507850 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1235507859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could place it at a random spot < 1235507862 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or such < 1235507871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or generate a new random game < 1235507883 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just fill in after you click, or move it to a random spot (might need retry) < 1235507898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yeah.. like what I just said < 1235507899 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's three options < 1235507905 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :laggy? < 1235507907 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1235507930 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but your options didn't exhaust every possibility :D < 1235507959 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : you could place it at a random spot < 1235507962 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : or generate a new random game < 1235507965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : you can just fill in after you click, or move it to a random spot (might need retry) < 1235507966 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1235507977 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, didn't you say that? < 1235507984 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1235507985 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite < 1235507999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you mentioned move top left before < 1235508023 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first option means that you don't need to generate anything before clicking, saves work < 1235508025 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm what would a minesweeper that allows multiple mines on one spot be like... < 1235508047 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, um hard since count would be off < 1235508054 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only in one direction < 1235508056 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, also more explosive < 1235508061 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, what? < 1235508063 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or actually maybe not... maybe generating and then moving is more efficient, since you don't need to check on every placement < 1235508070 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes < 1235508086 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yeah < 1235508113 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should all be equivalent statistically, which the move to top left isn't. < 1235508119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, and you could all the free spots to an array and then generate a random number as an index into that array < 1235508133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you don't need to retry < 1235508143 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't do random() % list_size < 1235508148 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's stupid :P < 1235508149 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm true, since you have to check collisions anyhow < 1235508173 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you can do something equivalent without wasting space for the array < 1235508175 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right so you _have_ to check, might just generate afterward then < 1235508180 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, guess so < 1235508185 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no need to do an array < 1235508195 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you generate a random number which is < the number of free spots < 1235508211 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, and then use that as an index into the nth free spot < 1235508211 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1235508213 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1235508217 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iterate through all mines... and if index of mine <= randNum .... radnNum++ < 1235508235 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exiting early as soon as mine > randNum < 1235508249 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: er that's O(n^2) to place the mines, sheesh < 1235508257 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's about moving one mine < 1235508260 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean O(m*n^2) < 1235508262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I have "3D snake" on my phone... anyone done 3D mines yet? < 1235508264 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1235508267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe? < 1235508294 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is still likely more inefficient than just choose and retry if collision < 1235508303 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea 2: state the yield of the mine < 1235508308 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but it's worst case is O(n) < 1235508313 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can survive some mines < 1235508313 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1235508320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hitpoints < 1235508329 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine sweeper with hitpoints and powerups! < 1235508329 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1235508335 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while retry and collision has a worst case that never exits < 1235508341 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*if < 1235508358 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: but it's worst case is O(n) < 1235508359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1235508360 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1235508377 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: to place one mine into an existing field the worst case is O(n) with my algorithm < 1235508378 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but an average case that is excellent unless you have too many mines < 1235508383 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, yes < 1235508389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why O(n^2) ? < 1235508392 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was that < 1235508399 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use mine to place all mines < 1235508401 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1235508408 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1235508413 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um i confused array size and number of mines somewhat < 1235508417 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case i indeed would generate an array with free spots < 1235508425 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then choose one by random... < 1235508428 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get an FPGA and make an O(1) variant in hardware :P < 1235508440 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a sorting network in hardware is O(1) < 1235508447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iirc) < 1235508459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in time at least < 1235508468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably way more in space < 1235508529 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway number of positions is usually small so that O(n) doesn't matter really < 1235508529 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannot be O(1) if the size is arbitrary (which a finite computer cannot handle anyway) < 1235508560 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean O doesn't matter at small sizes really < 1235508571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a binary search is better than a linear search < 1235508572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however < 1235508591 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my tests shows a simple linear search is faster for small data sets < 1235508597 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~50 items < 1235508598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or such < 1235508602 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe due to cache and such < 1235508611 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or optimisation < 1235508615 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yeah < 1235508617 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm a binary search is very simple to implement efficiently tho < 1235508618 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linear searches are easier to optimise, and a tighter loop < 1235508623 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can even be unrolled if necessary < 1235508637 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, binary search can be unrolled too, but I don't know of a compiler capable of it < 1235508642 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever you just need some generic way of choosing m objects from n slots without replacement < 1235508644 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yeah it could probably since I was operating on a static const array of a fixed size < 1235508651 0 :pikhq_!n=pikhq@r03jjw8v9.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1235508677 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, now maybe m > n < 1235508679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1235508695 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :error case is error case < 1235508717 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really the pigeonhole principle assumes the pigeons are average size... < 1235508729 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without food for some time you could stuff more than one in one box < 1235508730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1235509094 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you can adopt random shuffle agorithms that generate the sequence sequencially to exit after generating m elements < 1235509155 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1235509301 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1235510453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:42:23] just don't do random() % list_size < 1235510455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fail < 1235510455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1235510457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said it's stupid < 1235510473 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meta-fail < 1235510483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, for large list sizes yes < 1235510494 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's fail because of the behaviour of random() < 1235510499 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that too < 1235510504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, modulo'ing it is retarded < 1235510510 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, exactly < 1235510513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said it was stupid < 1235510518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ywa < 1235510519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yes < 1235510534 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infrrf < 1235510559 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*inswws < 1235510608 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you supposed to use random() then? < 1235510629 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main reason being that it won't be uniform, but also random() might be a very bad PRNG on $TARGET_LIBC < 1235510638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better use your own RNG < 1235510673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I would recommend against it for any cryptographically sensitive applications at least ;P < 1235510676 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1235510714 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reminds me, I need to replace random() % 4 in cfunge. I actually had plans to use FMT instead < 1235510716 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1235510756 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, obviously, you need to use a known cryptographically secure prng, but for things like just generating a random list when you don't care *that* much about the randomness < 1235510782 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :% powerOf2 is presumably the worst case < 1235510799 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again, maybe not < 1235510805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.math.sci.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/~m-mat/MT/SFMT/index.html < 1235510826 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, err wouldn't % powerOf2 be the most uniform case? < 1235510859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, assuming RAND_MAX == a power of two < 1235510868 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, because the low bits are what's often broken < 1235510890 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that sounds silly < 1235510901 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, the standard random number generator on one widely-used old version of UNIX alternated even and odd numbes < 1235510904 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*numbers < 1235510910 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, wow < 1235510919 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1235510925 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the high-order bits on such generators are more random-acting, though < 1235510928 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i referred to i guess < 1235510942 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit shift it to get the middle bits? < 1235510955 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or top ones < 1235510959 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whichever you want < 1235510976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mask off and bit shift < 1235510981 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should work well < 1235510993 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :random() returns long int < 1235511008 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means you need to figure out how to do this based on limits.h < 1235511021 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LONG_BIT < 1235511144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#if LONG_BIT < 8\n#error "Don't be silly..."\n#endif\nint myval = (random() >> (LONG_BIT - 5)) & 24; < 1235511147 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1235511160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oerjan ^ < 1235511166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think of the idea? < 1235511194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or & 3 maybe < 1235511194 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's over the top < 1235511200 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want two middle bits < 1235511203 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what do you mean? < 1235511222 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I miscalculate? < 1235511225 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :random() / (RAND_MAX / max_I_want) < 1235511230 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the standard formula < 1235511244 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a lot simpler than what you're trying there, I think < 1235511258 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I meant that you were complicating things more than you needed to be < 1235511263 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1235511273 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is tired... why does random() / (RAND_MAX / max_I_want) work < 1235511313 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably isn't quite uniform if max_I_want is not a power of 2 < 1235511319 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite < 1235511323 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't get uniform then without rerolling < 1235511335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1> (2 bsl 32) div 4. < 1235511335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2147483648 < 1235511349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1235511351 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1235511354 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1235511356 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is why it works < 1235511356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that? < 1235511358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erlang/ < 1235511373 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess checking if result > max_I_want then rerolling does it < 1235511374 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, depends on what your next comment will be < 1235511382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "It looked like lisp at first" < 1235511387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should name some software something that'll make people never use it. like, "Enron" < 1235511388 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it < 1235511388 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh the erlang < 1235511389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1235511400 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(div (bsl 2 32) 4) < 1235511403 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be lispy < 1235511436 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/the/yes/ < 1235511441 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea how I typoed that... < 1235511441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it had parentheses, and alphanumeric names for things commonly done as symbols < 1235511446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the prompt looked lisp-esque < 1235511448 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: "Hitler" < 1235511455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well / is floating point... < 1235511456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "Auschwitz" < 1235511476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Auschwitz compiler for the Hitler inferral programming language is now released." < 1235511478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, should I google after "Enron"? < 1235511482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes. < 1235511484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you said "wants to never use it" < 1235511488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be shock site < 1235511489 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*infernal < 1235511490 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1235511519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's not. sheesh. < 1235511534 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, idea name it 2goatse1cup < 1235511542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1235511545 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1235511555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe "The Nigger-Faggot deductive logic system" < 1235511562 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GodHatesFags < 1235511565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, I think I've cracked it < 1235511585 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: brilliant < 1235511595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I'll sue microsoft < 1235511611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Nigger Faggot Corporation, creators of the Nigger Faggot deductive logic system, today sued Microsoft." < 1235511630 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nigger faggot? < 1235511634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Their spokesman, Faggoty McNigger, had this to say: 'Microsoft is infringing on our intellectual property of "being total douchebags" and "offending everyone".'" < 1235511635 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll get sued by the GNAA < 1235511640 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: Shut up jew < 1235511642 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1235511649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: i'm the british branch. < 1235511666 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you watch Gay Nigger from Outer Space? < 1235511668 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, all of it < 1235511687 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a real movie? < 1235511689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1235511696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, not porn. < 1235511697 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, 'fraid so.. < 1235511705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayniggers_from_Outer_Space < 1235511713 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235511723 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION already found < 1235511781 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But DID YOU WATCH IT < 1235511784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[It is said that in this review, Payne described scenes featuring the protagonist, Gay Nigger Jim, raping a toilet until he explodes, and a musical number entitled "Gay Niggers Eat Pigs and Fly on Penises Made Out of Ham and Brown Ham, Because They're Gay Niggers."]] < 1235511787 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't be GNAA otherwise < 1235511789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly, I think it'd be better if that were true. < 1235511809 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes, that old troll < 1235511861 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNAA sounds like a troll name < 1235511870 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1235511872 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from fantasy, that is < 1235511876 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1235511878 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gay Nigger Association of America < 1235511879 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Outer_Space btw < 1235511895 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION salutes those Internet Superheroes < 1235511905 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, please ban them if they ever try to attack your irc network < 1235511928 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have an IRC network < 1235511935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really I know from experience they don't have an unlimited amount of proxies < 1235511946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[21:45:05] Slereah_, please ban them if they ever try to attack your irc network < 1235511948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahah < 1235511954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupidest line said all day < 1235511961 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes indeed < 1235511965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was being silly < 1235511972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure < 1235511973 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :intentional < 1235511981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rapes a kitten < 1235511984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ that was intentional < 1235511994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it would have been < 1235511995 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird : http://jun.2chan.net:81/b/src/1235462364005.jpg < 1235511997 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hawt < 1235512016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. < 1235512019 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, should be made into a motivational poster < 1235512029 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, or a lolkitten image < 1235512036 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or both! < 1235512038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The intentions are rather more sinister, AnMaster. < 1235512042 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lolcats are a thing of the past, AnMaster < 1235512048 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, what!? < 1235512050 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have degenerated in mainstream culture. < 1235512054 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, oh loldogs? < 1235512060 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1235512064 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://membres.lycos.fr/bewulf/Divers8/funnypicturesyoumaybemisq2.jpg < 1235512064 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1235512086 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, heh < 1235512092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, so what is the current thing then? < 1235512098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many files do you have in there Slereah_ < 1235512103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, all your base is "out" I believe < 1235512112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your site is like a repository of... stuff. < 1235512130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mardi 24 juillet 2001, 3eme millenaire." < 1235512131 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are plenty of current things. < 1235512137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I became a millionaire 24th july 2001" < 1235512146 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird : It's not really my site nowadays < 1235512157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1235512157 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use it as a FTP < 1235512164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is my translation correct :DD < 1235512187 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1235512189 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :u r dum < 1235512195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut dus it rly say < 1235512249 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tuesday 24th july 2001 3rd milleunium < 1235512257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1235512259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the context < 1235512276 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to put online some translations < 1235512466 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"..." < 1235512744 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to Tuesday 24th july 2001 4th millennium < 1235512761 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You never know! < 1235512797 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess technically the Tuesday has the same problem < 1235513206 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, 0000002001 ? < 1235513282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1235513325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poll: I want to read a new web comic. Should o go archive reading order of the stick or try to find some other one? < 1235513336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ o / I / < 1235513420 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one? < 1235513439 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on... < 1235513475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, read hackles < 1235513480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that comic < 1235513483 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though nobody's heard of it... < 1235513510 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that name *does* sound familiar < 1235513511 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles < 1235513522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackles.org/cgi-bin/archives.pl?request=1 < 1235513533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets better as it goes. < 1235513535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, read that < 1235513536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, umm, every other comic. < 1235513538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1235513540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ha < 1235513542 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but it's dead isn't it < 1235513542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read 1/0 < 1235513543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1235513546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, since jan 04 < 1235513550 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1235513556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that yeah to < 1235513557 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read it all in like 2006 or so < 1235513561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"read 1/0" or < 1235513569 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I think I read part of 1/0 < 1235513588 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes < 1235513588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/0's probably my favourite comic, aside from the small part where it seems to start advocating monotheism < 1235513596 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm < 1235513616 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well I haven't read all of 1/0, I gave up around comic 30 or so iirc < 1235513624 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't recall that part < 1235513631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :30 out of 1000 comics is not very much reading :P < 1235513638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the "fourth wall" plotline < 1235513669 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it _did_ explore the concept of the stupidity of rejecting monotheism if everyone _could_ see evidence of god < 1235513670 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link that part < 1235513684 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not exactly relevant to the real world < 1235513686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: near the end it pretty much advocated monotheism < 1235513706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say this with knowledge of other strong implications Tailsteak is a monotheist, though < 1235513714 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1235513714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I forget the comic numbers < 1235513723 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's kinda like south park is republican? < 1235513729 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*like how < 1235513739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, south park is republican? < 1235513741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now this is news to me < 1235513746 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think Slereah_ said something like that < 1235513771 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something else, anyway that they were advocating something anyway < 1235513775 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :South Park people are libertarians < 1235513778 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-anyway < 1235513779 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. < 1235513785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :libertarianism is hardly republican < 1235513804 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :republicanism, libertanianism, urophilia, monotheism, who cares < 1235513817 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :point is clearly they do not feel strongly one way or the other < 1235513846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm uranusphilic. < 1235513848 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something. < 1235513861 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't it be uranophilic? < 1235513870 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, haspyphilic? < 1235513873 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hey that was my comment < 1235513883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haspyphilic? what < 1235513887 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yoy < 1235513889 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you* < 1235513890 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1235513898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you are haspyphilic < 1235513904 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I heard that < 1235513906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck does that mean < 1235513913 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, can't figure it out? < 1235513921 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to split the string < 1235513922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, presumably because your jokes are terrible. < 1235513929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it isn't a joke... < 1235513937 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.google.com/p/haspy/ < 1235513944 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any relation? < 1235513947 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, now I didn't know about that < 1235513948 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and this here is my comment! < 1235513948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ooh, sexually attractive. < 1235513960 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you stole it from me! < 1235513962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.google.com/p/haspy/source/browse/#svn/trunk%3Fstate%3Dclosed < 1235513964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love vaporware < 1235513967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, but actually kind of related < 1235513986 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah < 1235513997 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... compelling < 1235513998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comforting. < 1235513999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something. < 1235514004 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"has pee ..why?" -philic < 1235514010 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was my second attempt after checking if "haspys" meant something < 1235514027 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you < 1235514037 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it when you don't know why people have pee i guess < 1235514048 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ha spy" -philic < 1235514052 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you like to laugh at spies. < 1235514059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sexually. < 1235514061 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1235514067 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sexual laughter < 1235514078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"H.A.S.P-y"-phillic, where H.A.S.P.Y. = Haskell and Sudo Python | Yes < 1235514080 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "mihihi tickles ;;)" < 1235514085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you like constructing nonsensical pipelines. < 1235514119 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rube-goldberg pipelines < 1235514132 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess there's no hyphen < 1235514170 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i think we're ready to hear what haspy means. < 1235514194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell and python oerjan, but actually kind of related < 1235514199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird loves both < 1235514232 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. so it was *that* related. < 1235514236 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, yes... < 1235514240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... rather stupid. < 1235514249 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hapyphilic is harder to say < 1235514250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for one, it wasn't funny... for the other, haskell and python aren't my favourite languages < 1235514250 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1235514252 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah that's _so_ out there, i mean i _knew_ it, er... < 1235514266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, " ehird, it isn't a joke... for one, it wasn't funny..." < 1235514267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1235514271 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you expect... < 1235514273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it wasn't a joke, what was it < 1235514282 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, an observation < 1235514287 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not everything has to be funny < 1235514292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm, that's not much of an observation < 1235514301 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, how so? < 1235514302 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm it's a lie? < 1235514308 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*umm, < 1235514312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, you could debate the truth in it < 1235514318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you're valgrindphillic < 1235514318 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly < 1235514321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, you use valgrind sometimes < 1235514325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean it's not funny < 1235514327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was AN OBSERVATION < 1235514328 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not everything has to be funny. some things need to be cried over for days and days. < 1235514332 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nah. I'm valgrindophillic < 1235514335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds better < 1235514337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1235514344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it makes it sound more like a gay sex practice. < 1235514349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's your thing... < 1235514358 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not the first part no < 1235514364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :val-grind-o-phillic < 1235514378 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, as long as that is an i and not an a < 1235514387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... grand? < 1235514392 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does "valgrind" come from "wall grinder" < 1235514402 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, no, from Nordic mythology < 1235514407 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read their FAQ < 1235514408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :valgrind comes from "Val, the Grind-o-Master" < 1235514413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of gay gayness < 1235514416 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, read their FAQ < 1235514428 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that where AnMaster got his name? < 1235514433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I'm busy joking. < 1235514435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yep. < 1235514436 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, http://valgrind.org/docs/manual/faq.html#faq.whence < 1235514439 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1235514442 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you aren't funny < 1235514447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's "Val's Little Brother, a Grind-o-Master" < 1235514451 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally it's not that far off from being a plausible norwegian name < 1235514462 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, http://valgrind.org/docs/manual/faq.html#faq.whence < 1235514478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://valgrind.org/docs/manual/faq.html#faq.pronounce < 1235514491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but every Norwegian or Swedish person could figure that out < 1235514500 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess ehird would need to know it is a short i < 1235514503 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, for a second there i thought it was the same link a third time for those who weren't highlighted yet :P < 1235514510 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn and i thought it meant value grinder :D < 1235514533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, oh do you think that is needed? < 1235514591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, this lisp compile is taking along time < 1235514599 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes! < 1235514607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :over 32595 lines of compiler output as it compiles tons of dependencies and everything < 1235514615 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty stupid faq btw, doesn't even say what valgrind *is* < 1235514628 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's not asked frequently for some reason < 1235514646 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: in fact you should probably link it to oerjan again < 1235514647 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: taking along time? have it give it back at _once_! < 1235514657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1235514657 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because "oerjan: darn and i thought it meant value grinder :D" is also in the faq < 1235514671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :valgrind = valgrind grinder < 1235514677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the val is an abbreviation of valgrind < 1235514678 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: er i read that before saying it < 1235514694 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i also meant it < 1235514761 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw val = battleground, grind = gate < 1235514765 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1) i'm joking 2) your mom 3) that's irrelevant because of your face 4) if you'd read it you wouldn't have said "and", you would've indicated somehow that you were part of the majority who thought that, perhaps with one of ithkuil's fine suffices. < 1235514766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why I think Bush planned the 2001-09-11 World Trade attacks" < 1235514767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh please... < 1235514785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: teach me ithkuil suffices! < 1235514855 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fhtagn! < 1235514879 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny how everyone says the people who believe that conspiracy thing are idiots, but no one actually explains the major holes they point out. < 1235514888 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i don't care one way or the other, just objectively speaking. < 1235514893 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: btw you're away < 1235514901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i'm not < 1235514913 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but /whois gives an away message < 1235514920 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if that was recent, yeah, maybe the subject could be dropped already < 1235514931 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you are away, your bouncer is lying to you < 1235514932 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats ehird -----### < 1235514944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I unawayed, silly. < 1235514948 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i don't know any of them off the top of my head brain. < 1235515033 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what about the other brain? < 1235515132 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're closer to my fingers, why don't you ask them < 1235515137 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :directly < 1235515152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :38612 lines of output... < 1235515154 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello fingers, is oklopol taking his medications properly? < 1235515169 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU TAKLIN TOMMEE? < 1235515175 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear. < 1235515198 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i conclude the fingers must be taking too much of something < 1235515210 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the medication is clogging in them < 1235515223 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. < 1235515227 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they look kinda swollen < 1235515283 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :; compilation unit finished ; caught 10 WARNING conditions ; printed 3273 notes < 1235515288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINA-FUCKING-LY! < 1235515360 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what were you compiling? < 1235515378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just did: CL-USER> (require :weblocks-demo) < 1235515383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'd just installed weblocks < 1235515389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its 5 bajillion dependencies < 1235515392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it compiled them all < 1235515399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :took about half an hour < 1235515493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alien technology is built for those with patiecne < 1235515496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*patience < 1235515708 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :patiecne is an especially painful form of acne < 1235515807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please add '/Users/ehird/Code/oracle/oracle/' to asdf:*central-registry* before you proceed. < 1235515808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, really? < 1235515814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to do that for every app? < 1235515816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grumble.. < 1235515993 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1235515997 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, right < 1235516004 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://valgrind.org/docs/manual/faq.html#faq.whence http://valgrind.org/docs/manual/faq.html#faq.pronounce < 1235516052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : pretty stupid faq btw, doesn't even say what valgrind *is* <-- err it does that right at the main page... < 1235516076 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the faq? < 1235516092 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands AnMaster the swatter < 1235516099 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1235516108 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, not of the faq < 1235516111 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats oklopol  < 1235516117 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(( < 1235516121 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hearts is fun < 1235516121 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, like at http://valgrind.org/ < 1235516122 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes it back < 1235516132 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look how fun < 1235516134 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1235516135 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where most people end up *FIRST* < 1235516136 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3<3<3<3 < 1235516137 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3<3 < 1235516141 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, nah that isn't fun < 1235516145 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS TOO < 1235516146 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=2 < 1235516147 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is like anti-fun < 1235516158 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuf of that < 1235516159 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I still hold references to it! < 1235516180 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets one using a reference and then swats another reference < 1235516190 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's visually pleasing < 1235516202 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost like a real heart. < 1235516203 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, depends on font < 1235516208 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses a copying gc to move the swatter, making all external refs broken < 1235516221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ah but your updates < 1235516226 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a handle < 1235516227 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so fail < 1235516232 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1235516262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I can just use oerjan.ResolveHandle(hSwatter); < 1235516271 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't know you ran win32... < 1235516297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or why is there otherwise an Ex variant? < 1235516303 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1235516306 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well i meant the actual game, but sure font too < 1235516317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, what game? < 1235516325 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1235516329 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blackjack. < 1235516336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles < 1235516339 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1235516342 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1235516344 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're awesome. < 1235516344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: WORDLY KNOWLEDGABLE < 1235516348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*WORLDLY < 1235516351 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no I'm not < 1235516351 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was like < 1235516357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: but you _do_ know the number of hairs on rms's beard. < 1235516357 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never claimed to be < 1235516363 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, in fact no < 1235516369 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lol you can't be serious? well. let's take a game everyone knows then" < 1235516371 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me < 1235516372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does AnMaster live in a faraday cage? < 1235516382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I know what that is < 1235516386 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1235516391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you do: you see one every day. < 1235516392 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, um, chess? < 1235516393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you live in one. < 1235516405 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: blackjack is as well-known as chess < 1235516422 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nah this house is not using a metal frame, it uses logs in the core < 1235516434 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, I actually heard the name before < 1235516440 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just had no clue about details < 1235516446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never bothered to find out < 1235516452 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay 36 vs. 43 well-knownity points < 1235516513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, did you know most computer cases act as faraday cages? I bet you do. < 1235516540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ran a computer without a case < 1235516553 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes and there are completely plastic cases too < 1235516572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine this iMac is just plastic. < 1235516580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe < 1235516587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I know my PC case is mostly steel < 1235516597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mac Pros are metal through and through < 1235516600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the ousdi < 1235516601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :outside < 1235516602 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I seen lots of PC cases that were plastic with a steel box inside < 1235517461 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection