< 1233533150 0 :Metcalf!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"mov.i #1,1" < 1233533660 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Slereah < 1233533990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: fix le nopol bot < 1233533991 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1233534786 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1233534873 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1233534885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self: infinite lang like context free, do it < 1233534967 0 :psygnisf_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im out for a bit guys. see ya. < 1233534971 0 :psygnisf_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving..." < 1233535485 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1233538547 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got an email with the subject line "Lesbians and their lovely sheeps" < 1233539868 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCKING HOT < 1233540284 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Computer has gone to sleep" < 1233544716 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-86-27.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1233544914 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1233544960 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1233545678 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1233545874 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r03jjw8v9.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1233545922 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1233546300 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1233546351 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1233546415 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1233546692 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1233548706 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1233549127 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1233550199 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1233552588 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bus" < 1233552661 0 :seveninchbread!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ghost < 1233552680 0 :ghost!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CakeProphet < 1233552927 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1233553205 0 :aantn!n=benji@bzq-79-182-120-123.red.bezeqint.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1233553421 0 :aantn!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1233554457 0 :Nortaneous!n=Wesley@c-69-255-193-4.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1233554793 0 :Nortaneous!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/forum/kareha.pl/1233554313/l50 < 1233556080 0 :amca!n=amca@CPE-121-208-81-104.qld.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1233557059 0 :X-Scale!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1233561589 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xs435.xs.to/xs435/09056/dude_what215.gif < 1233561599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1233561600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1233561779 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :old < 1233562134 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1233563288 0 :appletizer!i=user@82-32-123-8.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1233563337 0 :Nortaneous!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1233563738 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-193-40-216.zone7.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1233564316 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1233564359 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-193-40-216.zone7.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1233566705 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1233570156 0 :Having_A_keystro!n=ddrane@drane5000.nomads.utk.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1233570864 0 :fungot!n=fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1233570923 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You had disconnectized yourself again. < 1233570923 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: why does ( t do?!? < 1233571007 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You mean to ask why it happened? According to a server notice thing, that was a hardware problem on orwell.freenode.net. < 1233571008 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the ' cur' and ' cdr' gets the second field is called the closure of the variable `x', and similar < 1233571035 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incoherence. < 1233571064 0 :Having_A_keystro!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1233571073 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1233571814 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1233571840 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko < 1233572317 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-085-216-041-239.hsi.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1233573314 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wimp.com/goodtalk/ < 1233573317 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is me < 1233573321 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 30 years < 1233573331 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i hope) < 1233573468 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1233573470 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1233573488 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to figure out why the wireless network here is portscanning them < 1233573568 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something on 10.0.0.0/8, anyway < 1233576982 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1233576989 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1233577022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, needs flash it seems, so what is it? < 1233577041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it worth booting the computer that does have flash and then enable X forwarding and so on? < 1233577180 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely < 1233577546 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, so who is it? Obama? Since it says "public speaking" and so on. < 1233577570 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"me in 30 years" < 1233577575 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't sound very obama. < 1233577742 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well found the *.flv file < 1233577745 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 61 MB?! < 1233577769 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to imagine oklopol as US president < 1233577771 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fails < 1233577773 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite long, the beginning is the most interesting part. < 1233577778 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really have no idea what that would be like... < 1233577779 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, "no sound"? < 1233577789 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely sound < 1233577802 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i was the president, i'd expoit it. < 1233577823 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not if i'd worked to achieve it ofc. < 1233577823 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot find codec for audio format 0x6134706D. < 1233577828 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, sorry can't watch it < 1233577895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, ^ < 1233577970 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your loss < 1233577985 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a strange fourcc code: 0x6134706D -> "a4pm", it's mp4a (mpeg-4 audio) backwards. < 1233578006 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it works like funge fingerprints!? < 1233578039 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's usually the right way around, but yes, they use ASCII characters in those codec IDs. < 1233578057 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well that message was from mplayer < 1233578066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :byte swap fail or what? < 1233578166 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno; the flv does play here with mplayer. < 1233578167 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opening audio decoder: [faad] AAC (MPEG2/4 Advanced Audio Coding) < 1233578167 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 75.0 kbit/5.32% (ratio: 9376->176400) < 1233578167 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected audio codec: [faad] afm: faad (FAAD AAC (MPEG-2/MPEG-4 Audio) decoder) < 1233578208 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, I don't have headphones or speakers, so I'm just guessing it actually does play the audio.) < 1233578384 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1233578403 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The backwardsness might be just my interpretation; it could be that the mp4a fourcc actually has the numeric value of 0x6134706D, if those things are little-endian by nature. < 1233578433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :says faad is missing too < 1233578438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Requested audio codec family [faad] (afm=faad) not available. < 1233578462 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I'm on a binary distro atm, so I can't easily fix it, like I could on gentoo < 1233578475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just change a useflag and recompile on gentoo) < 1233579503 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Due to many requests the paper submission deadline is postponed to 9 February 2009 (final date !!!)" Yet another confirmation of http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php?f=998 < 1233580158 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1233580670 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wimp.com/beafraid/ <<< conclusive evidence. i'm hitting the basement. < 1233580771 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I'm catching this conclusive evidence with no sound. < 1233580821 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That old guy with the beard does look rather credible, though. < 1233580879 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, he's saying 2012 is the end of the world. according to multiple seers! :o < 1233580928 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if *multiple* seers say so... < 1233580959 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mayan calendar ends in 2012, at the end of the cycle < 1233580966 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know < 1233580969 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1233580974 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :polarity changes and earth changes its course < 1233580975 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also this one guy has two monitors full of text; what's he saying? A title said "web-bot" at some point. < 1233580977 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hits jupiter < 1233580978 0 :amca!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Farewell" < 1233580982 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we grow extra hands < 1233580984 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you know < 1233580990 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1233580994 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's some kinda prediction bot < 1233581006 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that predicted the world would end in 2012 too < 1233581009 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I see the link between extra hands and the end of the world, but it does remind me of a piece of music. < 1233581013 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it predicted the tsunami < 1233581017 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however that's written < 1233581078 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, ftp://ftp.byterapers.com/pub/extra/modules-humorouscollection/mp3/enemy_and_seadog-monta_sormee.mp3 -- but the lyrics are in Finnish, so the audience is limited. < 1233581121 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll convince myself of the apocalypse first, wait a mo. < 1233581128 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, no rush. < 1233581136 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's 2012, there's a lot of time. < 1233581221 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'll probably get my degree before that < 1233581233 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, umm. i'm done. < 1233581275 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you get convinced? < 1233581281 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 minutes left. < 1233581294 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should really be reading, but goddamn wimp got me addicted < 1233581329 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also these prediction things and all kinda conspiracy theories are so goddamn convincing i can't stop watching them < 1233581699 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the music isn't really my style < 1233581718 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, I'm not sure it's anyone's style. But it's about extra appendages. < 1233581735 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes, that's always a good topic for a song. < 1233581774 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1233581928 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting documentary btw, the web-bot thing is introduced twice. < 1233581937 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"in case you walked in late..." < 1233582036 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, uh, how does it work? < 1233582059 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm. < 1233582068 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems it looks for keywords on the internet? < 1233582088 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about spider, aka agents, roaming the net < 1233582095 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*spiders < 1233582113 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I were told to do a prediction-bot for the end of the world, I'd first start to look for some means of destroying the world, just to get some suitable training data for the predictor. < 1233582117 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were pictures of million of words with words like terrorism and new york in different colors < 1233582126 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1233582148 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I'd need a reasonably large population of worlds to destroy. < 1233582187 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm sure searching for "terrorism" works just as well. < 1233582215 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the point is the black hole in the center of our galaxy, the sun and the earth are lined up (?), and, you know, polarity of earth changes in hours, and everything goes boom < 1233582306 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, right. Well, I have to admit that two points (sun and earth) are quite often on the same line. < 1233582352 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no three. < 1233582357 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The black hole, too? < 1233582368 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the black hole too you know gravitrons and neutrons have a bbq party and you kno < 1233582369 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w < 1233582375 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boom < 1233582382 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary shit. i should go read my book now < 1233582387 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finished the doc < 1233582390 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the song you linked < 1233582397 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i couldn't < 1233582466 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Astronomy answer book has a (probably frequently asked) question of "Can the Earth, the Sun, and the center of the Galaxy be on one line?" at http://www.astro.uu.nl/~strous/AA/en/antwoorden/melkwegstelsels.html < 1233582519 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck do they know, mayans were much more accurate. < 1233582537 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I've never even considered that question before < 1233582538 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, they probably haven't even counted on the polarity. < 1233582555 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It is of vital importance; this is about the end of the world, after all. < 1233582576 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah it seems 2012 is the *real* end of the world < 1233582590 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean in what it was 2002 (?) even i wasn't convinced < 1233582602 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is definitely for real < 1233582603 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally, I think that if there was a magnetic field polarity flip, we'd be in trouble no matter which way the earth-sun line was pointing at the time < 1233582614 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the Mayans didn't even predict the end of the world in 2012 < 1233582618 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the end of an era < 1233582631 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, they predicted a mass extinction which wiped out most but not all of humankind < 1233582641 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but you know many after them have seen, independently, that there's also some you know extinction going on. < 1233582684 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh mass extinction, right, the documentary didn't actually say absolutely everyone would die < 1233582744 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, the Mayans believed there had been a few mass extinctions of similar natures before < 1233582758 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh also, apparently everyone who doesn't survive turns into animals < 1233582764 0 :aantn!n=benji@bzq-79-182-120-123.red.bezeqint.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1233582772 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: stop ruining this for me ;) < 1233582798 0 :aantn!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1233582953 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts "buy dogfood for self" on calendar < 1233583451 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you turn out to be a finicky cat, and absolutely refuse to eat it. < 1233583604 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having trouble finding a comprehensive end-of-the-world predictions table in Wikipedia. There's a lot of stuff around different pages, but I haven't noticed anyone collecting all that to a useful table. < 1233583635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try exit mundi! < 1233583641 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ehird < 1233583652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exit mundi is great < 1233584162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although http://www.exitmundi.nl/singularity.htm is a rather one-sided view of the singularity < 1233584418 0 :appletizer!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1233585649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so who wants to hear about my silly esolang idea < 1233585660 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone in this channel, probably < 1233585681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, every function either returns an immediate value without looping or recursing, or recurses infinitely < 1233585686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way you actually get real results < 1233585687 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : You do realize that if an actual reason was required, most of the Internet wouldn't exist? < 1233585698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that it just stops calling functions when it "doesn't make a big enough difference" < 1233585703 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the function to decide what that is is bindable at runtime < 1233585708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inspired by: http://www.contextfreeart.org/ < 1233585714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that, you just code infinite pictures < 1233585721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when they get smaller than a pixel, it just stops drawing that branch < 1233585733 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ah, works much like the iterative method of solving equations, then < 1233585764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, it can mess up a lot if you change the threshold to always say "no, that's a small difference" < 1233585773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...in that every function you call will return 0 < 1233585802 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you write the threshhold function itself? < 1233585814 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's written in the same lang, execution could be interesting, to say the least < 1233585819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it runs the threshold function without any restrictions < 1233585824 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1233585830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it would work without that too. < 1233585838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comparisons change {3,4} to {True,False} < 1233585845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is definitely a major change < 1233585851 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you set it not to be, but that's your fault. < 1233585887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sees "Hampton the Hampster - Hampsterdance the Album" on iTunes, weeps for humanity < 1233585894 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, how does it decide when the comparison function has stopped recursing? < 1233585905 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it uses the comparison function, that means it needs to recurse to decide whether to recurse or not < 1233585907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: by calling the comparison function. < 1233585931 0 :jix!n=jix@91-64-15-133-dynip.superkabel.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1233586007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1233586015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inaccurate computer floating point circuits come in handy < 1233586023 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that you can actually do (x = 1+(2/x)) and get a result < 1233586035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because 2/x always gets you to 0 in finite time, and x+0 is obviously x) < 1233586071 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about 4195835.0/3145727.0? < 1233586096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a special floating point thingy? < 1233586102 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not exactly < 1233586114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm dividing it repeatedly in a haskell console < 1233586116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see how long this takes < 1233586128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, I'm scripting this < 1233586130 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a calculation that the pentium 1 got wrong < 1233586134 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1233586134 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1233586135 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it returned 1.333 739 068 902 037 589 rather than 1.333 820 449 136 241 002 < 1233586139 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a big difference, but big enough < 1233586156 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intel had huge trouble defending their reputation over that one < 1233586165 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like 850*77.1, but more serious and harder to remember < 1233586183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kind of hate intel and x86. < 1233586194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereby kind of I mean I really hate, but can't figure out why < 1233586221 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(incidentally, that bug was due to a typo in a lookup table, pretty scary really as I would have hoped they'd be machine-generated...) < 1233586265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exit mundi < 1233586266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1233586270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong copy paste < 1233586282 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh, though, I've messed up an autogenerated lookup table before < 1233586296 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I somehow managed to paste the first half of the table twice, caused chaos until I realised what had happened < 1233587125 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is very amused that the most commonly edited bits of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=INTERCAL are the hello worlds in non-INTERCAL languages < 1233587152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION chops out the Python example because honestly < 1233587177 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I'll buy that < 1233587202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :proto: next to "Minor edit", there is a checkbox reading "Honestly, for god's sake" < 1233587209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it disables the edit summary field, and cannot be reverted < 1233587212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and does not appear in recent changes. < 1233587222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, vandals cannot use it. < 1233587250 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, there is one of those, but only admins can use it, and it's an URL parameter not a checkbox < 1233587255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1233587256 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it only does reverts < 1233587261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um :P < 1233587262 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it shows up in page history, although not recent changes < 1233587267 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything shows up in page history < 1233587268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rollback? < 1233587272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That < 1233587274 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bot rollback, to be precise < 1233587275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s not admin-only, is it? < 1233587277 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rollback shows up in recent changes < 1233587280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1233587285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rollback is a separate flag, no? < 1233587289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is bot rollback admin-only < 1233587289 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Wikipedia, yes < 1233587295 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but bot rollback's admin-only IIRC < 1233587301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds dangerous < 1233587302 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was last I looked, anyway < 1233587313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vandal botses reverting algos aren't very good... < 1233587319 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is dangerous < 1233587319 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used it on Esolang a bit to clean up spam < 1233587321 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it hides the edit you're reverting from recent changes too < 1233587327 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1233587397 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Interpreter < 1233587399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Parrot - a virtual machine supporting some esoteric languages " < 1233587407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I see the relevance. < 1233587413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who wants to add EsCo? :P < 1233587484 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did esco become such a running joke, anyway? < 1233587492 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of other bad esolang interps out there... < 1233587505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's so _overblown_ < 1233587512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the authors were rabid in adding it to the wiki < 1233587517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and re-adding it, and re-re-adding it, and... < 1233587526 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if they spammed it to Wikipedia first, and got redirected to Esolang < 1233587572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, last commit 2 weeks ago < 1233587576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's being developed... < 1233587599 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why not? < 1233587609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally, things like that are abandoned posthaste < 1233587719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, a site with a flash homepage < 1233587725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't seen one of them for forever < 1233587735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, tiny 10px text < 1233587738 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wizards of the Coast had quite a few < 1233587743 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although IIRC they fixed that recently < 1233587756 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, if you find a site with a Silverlight homepage, I'll be worried < 1233587762 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless it's one of Microsoft's, that doesn't count) < 1233587830 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm looking for a syntax-highlighting IDE as I've been tasked with maintaining INTERCAL code and am having trouble not making mistakes." I wonder how often that sort of thing happens. < 1233587850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: link? < 1233587855 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: [[Talk:INTERCAL]] < 1233587855 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:INTERCAL < 1233587873 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guessed it was a troll, but tried to give a serious answer anyway < 1233587892 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that [[link]] supposed to automagically turn into a real URL? If so, it didn't happen. < 1233587918 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I forgot the w: prefix < 1233587920 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, even if it wasn't supposed to happen, it didn't. < 1233587923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to a recent blog post, Apple discovered that Microsoft had planted a spy in their organisation, and deliberately leaked a copy of obsolete System 7 source code, machine-translated to INTERCAL, claiming it was the latest build of OS X 10.2. Bill Gates initially fell for the trick and seriously told his programmers to incorporate the INTERCAL code into Windows Vista. JIP | Talk 05:39, 5 March 2007 (UTC) < 1233587925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to INTERCAL's limited I/O capabilities, this seems unlikely. I can't imagine anyone writing an OS in INTERCAL-72, and neither C-INTERCAL or CLC-INTERCAL can do graphics as far as I know, so presumably this is a new secret flavour of INTERCAL? --ais523 09:49, 5 March 2007 (UTC) < 1233587929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it seems pretty clear that the blog was meant to be a joke. This is probably why blogs aren't considered reliable sources; I'd recommend not putting this information in the article. --ais523 12:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC) < 1233587933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: when did you get a sense of humour? < 1233587935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :post march 2007, evidently < 1233587954 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no, I just think that AnMaster-style responses to stupid questions are much funnier than ehird-style responses < 1233587960 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially where INTERCAL is concerned < 1233587978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, my responses aren't responses < 1233587981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're pointers from elsewhere < 1233587993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus, it wasn't a stupid question, it was a joke < 1233588006 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I didn't want anyone to copy the information into the article < 1233588041 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some jokes are only funny if the other person tries not to get them < 1233588047 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that particular blog post was not funny at all, really < 1233588076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that blog post was written by the guy who wrote that intercal tutorial < 1233588087 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didn't write it < 1233588087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :white on black colour scheme, on blogspot, that's all i remember < 1233588096 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he reached the point of trying to make a loop, and gave up, I think < 1233588105 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, he wrote some parts of it < 1233588127 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, still there < 1233588131 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has the URL memorised... < 1233588162 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Are you an INTERCAL guru? Please feel free to post the solution as a comment. (It will sure save me from figuring it out.) < 1233588164 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may do just that < 1233588168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i pledge to kill anyone who ever makes another foo.bar.bz domain pun < 1233588172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot freaking remember them < 1233588182 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://divingintointercal.blogspot.com/ anyway < 1233588305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Site_support < 1233588308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{prod}} < 1233588341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Velato < 1233588343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1233588354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.rottytooth.com/velatotracks/print_h_5.mid < 1233588355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello world < 1233588564 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1233588567 0 :jix!n=jix@91-64-15-133-dynip.superkabel.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1233588792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bjp-online.com/public/showPage.html?page=836675 < 1233588797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :la la la woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo britain. < 1233589696 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1233590510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Caught sigterm, terminating..." < 1233590671 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-8-242.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1233591126 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1233591150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grrr. need. ordered. directory. tree. < 1233591169 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1233591325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1233591361 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ls -R? < 1233591368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, ordered < 1233591373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, a regular unix directory < 1233591375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except < 1233591378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :files inside are ordered < 1233591381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the listing < 1233591409 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you could use the init.d trick < 1233591413 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that's a ridiculous hack < 1233591422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's awful < 1233591426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want number cruft on my filenames < 1233591494 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grumph < 1233591513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: no, file create time doesn't count, because it's brittle < 1233591528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can't sort by it in a lot of UIs < 1233591942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see if I can't work out coadjute < 1233591965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rule :: String -> [String] -> ([Source] -> Target -> IO ()) -> [SingleDatum] -> Coadjute () < 1233591965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A rule for building targets individually. < 1233591968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks that is really helpful < 1233592536 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=arvid@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1233593091 0 :Slereah2!n=Slereah@ANantes-259-1-106-40.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1233593190 0 :Hiato!n=1@dsl-245-26-167.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1233593373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one solution for ordered directory trees: < 1233593379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have it unordered, but with a manual index of files < 1233593380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1233593381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :filename\nfilename < 1233593382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1233593530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugly but works < 1233593585 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1233593846 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1233594064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. In a YYYY-MM-DD date, what are the hyphens? Real hyphens? En dashes? Em dashes? Avocados? < 1233594102 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1233594107 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen them as anything but hyphens < 1233594113 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't mean hyphens are right, though < 1233594129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, - is often used as an endash < 1233594133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- as an emdash < 1233594161 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be a digit dash < 1233594164 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever it's called < 1233594166 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :figure dash < 1233594169 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that's as wide as a 0 < 1233594180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. < 1233594196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The figure dash is used when a dash must be used within numbers, for example with telephone numbers: 867‒5309. " < 1233594203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems likely. < 1233594252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Caring about these things makes my life a lot more stressful :P < 1233594263 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot more eso, though < 1233594276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being correct is eso now? < 1233594319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if I can get Pandoc to put a hair space between emdashes. < 1233594326 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :being finicky correct beyond reason, yes < 1233594329 0 :jix!n=jix@77-20-205-106-dynip.superkabel.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1233594333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm such a stickler. < 1233594335 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you think I want to distribute C-INTERCAL in PAX format? < 1233594384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’d type using “smart quotes” (such a stupid name) and other such things — like I am in this sentence — on IRC all the time, if it weren’t so hard on the fingers. < 1233594533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/README.html#header-identifiers-in-html < 1233594538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph, I'll have to postprocess pandoc output. < 1233594543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogs--in-my-house should be dogs-in-my-house. < 1233594684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether I should care about whether IE chokes and dies on my page. < 1233594686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah. < 1233594740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh bloody hell, HTML5 obligates dates to use -. < 1233594744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ridiculous. < 1233594771 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't they heard of microformats? < 1233594781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the teams overlap heavily. < 1233594785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's the element semantics. < 1233594836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fine with obligation, I just dislike incorrect obligation :P < 1233594941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1233594945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think theyr emoved the date element < 1233595048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ehird: Either complain to Hixie and get it fixed or worry less about typography :) < 1233595054 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bu-bu-bu-bu I COULDN'T POSSIBLY < 1233595107 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :complain to Hixie, go on < 1233595125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I'm going to < 1233595138 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("complain to hixie" evaluates to "email the whatwg mailing list", though) < 1233595158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they'll -drop- support for the hyphen :-P < 1233595170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, -hyphens- as emphasis is very nice, I suggest you try it. < 1233595183 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Why use them for emphasis?- < 1233595190 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Why not use them to scare everyone?- < 1233595202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-My name is not Baron von Skippy.- < 1233595213 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-But everyone loves the Baron.- < 1233595221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-I think he'll sue you if you keep that up.- < 1233595841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, let's see... < 1233595865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The base size is 16px, the line height is 1.5, so the basic vertical measure is 16 x 1.5 = 24px < 1233596106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah < 1233596109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're meant to do < 1233596122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1233597037 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolxml < 1233597098 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works < 1233597127 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1233597139 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hyphens in the datetime element are so that it can be parsed easily, ASCII's good for that < 1233597257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: it's not xml < 1233597264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's html5 < 1233597280 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SGML and XML should stop looking so similar to each other < 1233597288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML5 isn't SGML < 1233597290 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, is HTML5 based on SGML? Or does it have its own parser? < 1233597293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snap < 1233597297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :own parsing rules, yes < 1233597865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit, I have some typographical calculations slightly out of line and it's messing up the page. < 1233597949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's in the headers < 1233597959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : margin-top: 0.857em; < 1233597960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : margin-bottom: 2.57em; < 1233597962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bet it's these < 1233597976 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"before I get snowed in completely" < 1233597979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it is < 1233598749 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-8-242.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1233599186 0 :Leonidas!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1233599212 0 :Leonidas!n=Leonidas@unaffiliated/leonidas JOIN :#esoteric < 1233599394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : [Global Notice] Hi all, It would appear one of our client servers just dropped off the face of the planet. We're looking into the issue and should hopefully have it back soon. Affected users just over 2,000. Apologies for the inconvenience and have a good day. < 1233599398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freenode are so reliable. < 1233599413 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a tiny black hole struck them. < 1233599466 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, it's not my fault, I didn't even work on the LHC yet! < 1233599662 0 :alex89ru!n=kw@hbrn-5f7161d6.pool.einsundeins.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1233600486 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://simple-pc-help.com/support/runtime_autogenerated%20bull-honky.html < 1233600505 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen autogenerated crap on the internet but that takes the cake < 1233600619 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note the comments section < 1233600628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaaahah < 1233600636 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also go to the homepage, where there are suspiciously bayes-like news stories < 1233600663 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://simple-pc-help.com/support/runtime_autogenerated%20erectile-disfunction.html < 1233600665 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, more like scraped from other sites < 1233600678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah wait < 1233600679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://simple-pc-help.com/support/runtime_erectile-disfunction.html < 1233600694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to Repair Error Code Erectile Disfunction < 1233600722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, I can't spell < 1233600724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1233600726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks bro!!! finally this stupid error Erectile Dysfunction Stopped popping UP < 1233600804 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1233600807 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:IZWftMwjmOUJ:answers.yahoo.com/question/index%3Fqid%3D20081016232027AAr01Oc+simple-pc-help.com&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us&client=firefox-a < 1233600836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about the website but I use RegCure and it's very good and hasn't broken our computer. Our computer is much quicker and we run RegCure once a week. < 1233601103 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to run it < 1233601110 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love virtualbox snapshots... < 1233601164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is so pretty. < 1233601210 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn it < 1233601217 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://simple-pc-help.com/support/runtime_Windows.html < 1233601220 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much better < 1233601228 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do You Have Problems with Windows?" < 1233601274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have permission to access /support/runtime_.html on this server. < 1233601298 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried that :p < 1233601305 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do other html though < 1233601347 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1233601350 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't actually work < 1233601372 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I attempted clicking all the links on IE, no download boxes < 1233601392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:03 what type should I use for a date? < 1233601392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:03 ehird: NiceRestaurant < 1233601393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:03 protection < 1233601399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell: Oh Ho Ho That Obvious Joke Is So Amusing. < 1233601456 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-232.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1233601550 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1233601627 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do You Have Problems with > < 1233601627 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem: Runtime Error >critical sign of an unstable system that is typically caused by improper maintenance of the computer. < 1233601640 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, injecting HTML comments <3 < 1233602542 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1233602546 0 :X-Scale!i=email@89-180-71-28.net.novis.pt JOIN :#esoteric < 1233602646 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: your language sounds an awful lot like ef. < 1233602654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o rly? < 1233602768 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: in that you can actually do (x = 1+(2/x)) and get a result <<< what result would it be? < 1233602805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1233602815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you don't always get such a nice answer, but that's how it is with floating point.) < 1233603363 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah. < 1233603373 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to find in the logs when i was teaching it to you < 1233603380 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you came up with that exact same example < 1233603397 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1233603528 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah, i'd have to import re, and that's kinda cheating. < 1233603579 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the point is you'd think you'd see the similarity < 1233603583 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1233603584 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1233603645 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah ef is not exatly the same, x=1+2/x doesn't set x to 2, but the idea is the same < 1233603648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I saw ef in the logs when I thought of it < 1233603653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a derivation of that idea < 1233603656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not identical < 1233603756 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so umm why does x=1+2/x set x to 2? setting variables is iterated until the process converges? < 1233603770 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well, that's just haskell-style < 1233603775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie. x=x is a black hole < 1233603799 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually you get to x+0 < 1233603800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :== x < 1233603801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it stops < 1233603947 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the convergence stuff revolves around "=", and works by solving the equations < 1233603978 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by taking the fixed-point, so not perfectly, but that's the way to get fixed-points? < 1233604003 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-193-40-216.zone7.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1233604020 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean ef does it by taking the fixed-point of everything, which makes much less sense, so they would indeed be way different. < 1233604023 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ef is so cool <3 < 1233604135 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come you ain't an answer mister ehird :o < 1233604151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1233604152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1233604154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't go < 1233604157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I didn't read eso < 1233604158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1233604160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol> so the convergence stuff revolves around "=", and works by solving the equations < 1233604162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't actual syntax < 1233604166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is just hypothetically < 1233604216 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my point is, do you do fixed-point stuff by setting up equations that are solved by taking the fixed-point? < 1233604229 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are there other interesting things you may do < 1233604251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well, basically you can't recurse or anything in any other way than using fix on a value < 1233604255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can't do fact = fix \me -> ...) < 1233604257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1233604264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fact = \n -> fix (\result -> ...) < 1233604276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you basically have to work out htf to get that working. < 1233604282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1233604293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stops the infinite loop when the expression Wouldn't Change Enough (TM) < 1233604420 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmhmm. < 1233604440 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that does sound exactly like ef again < 1233604486 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1233604492 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. < 1233604505 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta go read my book, kinda slept and idled all day < 1233604508 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~> < 1233604511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1233604512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1233604583 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1233604855 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-193-40-216.zone7.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1233606507 0 :alex89ru!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1233608579 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1233609612 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1233610211 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BITCHES, TALK < 1233610666 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1233610755 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1233611484 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :biden < 1233612645 0 :biden!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :comex < 1233613824 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1233614711 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1233615111 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1233615321 0 :amca!n=amca@CPE-121-208-81-104.qld.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1233615581 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1233615581 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1233615581 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1233615596 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitch ack < 1233615746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oklopol < 1233615773 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1233616434 0 :enoksrd!i=43ab4e66@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4dcf1cc1a37aca0a JOIN :#esoteric < 1233616447 0 :whoppix!n=whoppix@ti0021a380-dhcp0186.bb.online.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1233616513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi. < 1233616518 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1233616531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, our topic still isn't descriptive < 1233616549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Esoteric programming languages. http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric. http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. < 1233616576 0 :enoksrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1233616702 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think oklopol likes his topic links to be clickable. < 1233616796 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't use an irc client from the 50's. < 1233616815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah those are clickable. < 1233616828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: 2050s? < 1233616840 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are? < 1233616855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes. < 1233616856 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess they might be. < 1233616866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi whoppix < 1233616874 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello ehird. < 1233616884 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should start making URLs ending in . to irritate people, then. < 1233616890 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoppix: what brings you here? < 1233616893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you're in #haskell. < 1233616897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must have been when I mentioned this place < 1233616902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi. < 1233616914 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, someone mentioned the channel name, and I have to admit, I'm a rather curios kind of person. :) < 1233616928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you could call all of us "curious" :-P < 1233616956 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose all programmers need to be, at some level. < 1233616967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, this is a channel about esolangs. You might have heard of some: Brainfuck, INTERCAL, Unlambda, Underload, Thue, ... < 1233617003 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I've once written a small brainfuck interpreter in perl, and had a look at some other esoteric languages. < 1233617013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1233617044 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never heard about either of the last ones, you mentioned, though. < 1233617075 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((Welcome to underload! )S:^):^ < 1233617075 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to underload! Welcome to underload! Welcome to underload! Welcome to underload! Welcome to underload! Welcome to underload! Welcome to underload! Welcome to underload! Welcome to underload! Welcome to underload! Welcome to underload! Welcome to underload! Welcome to underload! Welcome to underload! Welcome to under ...too much output! < 1233617085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoppix: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Underload < 1233617088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Thue < 1233617105 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. < 1233617111 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at Unlambda right now. < 1233617141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoppix: fungot here's written in Befunge-98, and interprets Brainfuck and Underload: http://zem.fi/~fis/fungot.b98.txt < 1233617141 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what are you trying to do?' < 1233617149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and babbles when you mention their name. fungot! < 1233617150 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no one said the jobs had to be a patchwork fnord of features < 1233617155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1233617155 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* lovecraft pa speeches ss wp < 1233617170 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah. < 1233617183 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge is kinda silly. < 1233617194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very. :) < 1233617201 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess thats an inertial property of most esoteric languages. < 1233617240 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge is actually very serious < 1233617263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge-98, yes < 1233617267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge-93, not really. < 1233617331 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if its easy to parallize befunge code. < 1233617343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge-98, yes. < 1233617348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a library for multiple instruction pointers. < 1233617351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just fork them off. < 1233617360 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge-93, not really < 1233617364 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1233617367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: :D < 1233617386 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :welll it was kinda important don't you think < 1233617536 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: multiple IPs are even in the core, no library needed < 1233617541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, OK < 1233617559 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IPs? < 1233617562 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but running them truly parallel isn't in the core < 1233617568 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoppix: instruction pointers < 1233617569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoppix: instruction pointers < 1233617571 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1233617571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snap < 1233617622 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if any extension yet even has parallel execution < 1233617638 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster was working on something related but I don't know if he finished anything < 1233617762 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose if it should be usefull, you'd need stuff like mutexes and/or semaphores < 1233617917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1233617929 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or STM :D < 1233617967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: STM is awesome, even though I haven't used it. < 1233617970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GROUPTHINK AHOY! < 1233618122 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually STM sucks < 1233618126 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE ARE THE BORG < 1233618131 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why? cause it's too slow) < 1233618137 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :retrying transactions might prove a little more difficult than in a pure language like haskell... maybe TRDS could help! < 1233618144 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's why nobody is using it) < 1233618145 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speed is irrelevant most of the time, lament :P < 1233618149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, haskellites use it. < 1233618153 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no, it's not < 1233618161 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and haskellites use it obviously < 1233618163 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's by SPJ < 1233618177 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPJ can fart into a source file and put it on Hackage and people will use it < 1233618184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this another lament Haskell Sucks And I Hate It rant < 1233618195 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you funroll all your loops in befunge? < 1233618230 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, wikipedia tells me it could in future be hardware-supported < 1233618268 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that would negate the speed deficit < 1233618285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds quite unlikely in mainstream hardware < 1233618335 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoppix: yes. Just like strong AI will be in the future hardware-supported < 1233618356 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AI? < 1233618361 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... artificial intelligence ... < 1233618410 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If thats what he means by AI, I can't make sense of that sentence. < 1233618418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_AI < 1233618484 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. Well, wonders might happen, parallelization is hard as-is. < 1233618529 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wanders off. < 1233618538 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish everyone a pleasant localtime. < 1233618546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GMT/UTC :-) < 1233618548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1233618561 0 :whoppix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Verlassend"