< 1232841608 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't reach the level i'm talking about. the absolute bottom of informational computationality. < 1232841622 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so. < 1232841629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the fundamental imperative computational is something like: < 1232841639 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words i think i should sleep < 1232841648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perform an operation on two values and put the result somewhere, then go somewhere else depending on the result. < 1232841667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so let's say < 1232841672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sjz A B C < 1232841676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A and B are memory addresses < 1232841683 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"go" "put" "perform" < 1232841686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtracts the value in A and the value in B < 1232841694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and puts the result in B < 1232841698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then, if the result is zero < 1232841700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it jumps to C < 1232841704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, execution continues as normal < 1232841720 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good? < 1232841739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :equality comparison: < 1232841741 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's so compicated i can't understand it, let alone read or see it. < 1232841745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sjz A B notequal < 1232841746 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*complicated < 1232841748 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[its equal] < 1232841750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :notequal: < 1232841752 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[its not equal] < 1232841756 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notwithstanding, there is no Turing-complete language simpler than BCT. < 1232841762 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. < 1232841767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i"m talking about instruction sets < 1232841769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imperative unz < 1232841769 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: is "equals" too complicated for you? < 1232841772 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: you're wrong < 1232841775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ocrap < 1232841777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I invented subleq < 1232841778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Execution of one instruction A B C subtracts the value of memory in A from the content of memory in B. If value after subtraction in B less or equal to zero, then execution jumps to the address C; otherwise to the next instruction. < 1232841785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, less or equal to zero < 1232841787 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, simplicity is objective and I'm always right. < 1232841790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so mine's kind of less complex < 1232841805 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: testing equality is pretty hard, yes < 1232841817 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never said testing equality. < 1232841823 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so umm. < 1232841828 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about continuous computation < 1232841831 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proce. < 1232841835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then: < 1232841835 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need an infinite amount of it to get anything done < 1232841837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ej A B C < 1232841847 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proce. < 1232841848 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :programs are functions from reals to instruction fragments < 1232841851 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :proce? < 1232841853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reads A and B, if the values are equal, it stores 1 in B, otherwise it stores 0 in B. < 1232841856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they ARE equal, it jumps to C. < 1232841857 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RSSB is less complex. One instruction and only one operand < 1232841864 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1232841864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: link? < 1232841878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going for conceptual simplicity here < 1232841884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if RSSB does a lot, it doesn't qualify < 1232841887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm you know what < 1232841893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think ej could possibly be TC < 1232841896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you scratched the storing < 1232841903 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: proce? < 1232841909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the value in A is the value in B, jump to C. otherwise, continue as normal. < 1232841913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno how you store things ofc :D < 1232841932 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: so umm proce? < 1232841935 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a programming language where every variable thingy is a function of real numbers. < 1232841948 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can implement the sine function very easily in Proce. < 1232841954 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that lang of yours? < 1232841964 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1232841967 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has nothing to do with what i said, but yeah, i remember it < 1232841980 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See the RSSB page I made the other day http://esolangs.org/wiki/RSSB < 1232841989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1232841990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1232841997 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially you have differential equations iirc < 1232841998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it has registers < 1232842000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not simple < 1232842005 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are automatically solved < 1232842013 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it had plenty to do with what you said until you said "programs are functions from reals to instruction fragments". < 1232842016 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get definitions for funcs involved < 1232842019 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean by "instruction fragments"? < 1232842039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: can't IP/ACC be in memory? < 1232842041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, at 0 and 1 < 1232842051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1232842052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1232842057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The result is stored in both memory and the accumulator" < 1232842058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both? < 1232842061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely that is not needed < 1232842066 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't it just be in the accumulator/ < 1232842067 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: proce doesn't have continuous computation, it has computation applied on continuous things. < 1232842068 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Tough language: Programs are continuous functions from reals to reals where the image contains only integers.) < 1232842071 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*applied to < 1232842083 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1232842097 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: i have no idea what i mean by instruction fragments. < 1232842115 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1232842128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: ? < 1232842128 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean continuous computation. instructions you can have any real amount of. < 1232842149 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'm not sure why the spec said both < 1232842160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION writes simplified rssb
< 1232842167 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say you do instruction : 3.16 times, then # 87.001 times, and... umm... maybe something happens. < 1232842175 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods
< 1232842187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: define below 0 < 1232842192 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1232842196 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1232842197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :signed integers in an architechture? Perverse. < 1232842203 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: i'm just trying to think outside the box, computation's always so discrete and boring. < 1232842213 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :below 0: if the subtraction causes a borrow < 1232842241 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, memory is a continuous function from R. < 1232842247 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a redcode implementation at http://impomatic.blogspot.com < 1232842251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: i don't follow < 1232842254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :essplain? < 1232842256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean like < 1232842260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1-2 < 1232842260 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, um... < 1232842265 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: yeah maybe, and instructions perform on single values < 1232842266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite not being below 0 < 1232842268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since there's no such thing < 1232842270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :counts as it? < 1232842274 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1232842278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okie < 1232842286 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: so you need an uncountable amount of them to get anything done < 1232842306 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically if prior to the subtraction, acc > contents of memory location, skip the next instruction < 1232842330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mem locs: 0 ip, 1 accumulator, 2 always contains 0, 3 input, 4 output < 1232842331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instruction: Subtract the accumulator from the contents of the operand, and < 1232842332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :store it in the accumulator. If this caused a borrow, jump to the instruction < 1232842334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :past the next one. < 1232842340 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :simplified < 1232842342 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: also flow control isn't jumping, it's more like slowly fading into another kind of computation, and somehow implement this by finding the conceptual integral of what the fading computation will achieve during its infinite fade. < 1232842343 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An instruction is a continuous function f : x real number -> such that f(f(x,a),b) = f(x,a+b). < 1232842351 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For all x, a and b. < 1232842356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: so is there a reason it has to be stored in both? < 1232842379 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is an implementation of RSSB by David Tanguay, but I can't find a copy online < 1232842379 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/real number/non-negative real number/ < 1232842391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: ? < 1232842403 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I just implemented as per David Tanguay's spec < 1232842406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1232842413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just wondering if only storing in the acc could be simpler < 1232842421 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: that's a bit too concrete at this point. < 1232842429 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is not. < 1232842434 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't want to have your functions be discrete objects.... < 1232842450 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs
< 1232842453 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they need to be continuous computation < 1232842453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1232842458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :storing it in just one is useless < 1232842460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1232842461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but both is ugly < 1232842473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the accumulator is a hack < 1232842482 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: i guess that's pretty much the definition of continuous computation though :P < 1232842488 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the accumulator is a lie < 1232842492 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm or not. < 1232842516 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: but err, probably a good definition. < 1232842523 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: if it only stores in acc, there's no way to modify memory. if it only stores in memory, then the only thing you can do with acc is set it to zero < 1232842545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1232842549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still < 1232842551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ugly < 1232842572 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The set Q consists of all continuous functions Q -> Q. < 1232842587 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q is the least fixed point of that. < 1232842600 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, if you prefer, the union of all fixed points of that. < 1232842607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: < 1232842607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sjlz a b: Subtract the contents of a from the contents of b, and store the < 1232842608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :result in b. If this caused a borrow, skip the next instruction. < 1232842612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much more conceptually pure < 1232842614 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: sounds feasible < 1232842618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only one more operand < 1232842714 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I is in Q, as for all x in Q, x is in Q, and if a set S of Q's is open, its preimage under I (that is, S) is also open. < 1232842753 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: I as in identity? < 1232842756 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For all x in Q, K x is in Q, as for all y in Q, x is in Q, and if a set S of Q's is open, its preimage under I (either Q or empty) is also open. < 1232842763 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I is identity combinator, K is constant combinator. < 1232842763 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1232842770 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you answered that already < 1232842802 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: did you invent Q just now? < 1232842820 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1232842848 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if a set S of Q's is open, its preimage under I (that is, S) is also open" i don't understand this < 1232842859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :outputting a < 1232842860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a out < 1232842860 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then again, you're the abstract nonsense guy :P < 1232842861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=a 97 < 1232842865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where a out -> ajlz a out < 1232842873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and =a 97 defines a bit of memory with that value in. < 1232842886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ajlz a b: Add the contents of a to the contents of b, and store the result in b. < 1232842886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If this caused an overflow, skip the next instruction. < 1232842890 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The preimage of S under I is S. Therefore, if a set S is open, its preimage under I is also open. < 1232842896 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah, I love abstract nonsense. < 1232842907 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah who doesn't < 1232842927 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :preimage of x = the set of things that map to x? < 1232842933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1232842942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a one-instruction one-character cat program < 1232842944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in out < 1232842944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1232842947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes it loop
< 1232842980 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: the set of things that map to elements of x. < 1232843004 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: that's what i meant < 1232843007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: how do you jump backwards with rssb? < 1232843011 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :liek, map into x < 1232843018 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah okay < 1232843070 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: what's the significance of the "and if a set S of..." part? < 1232843076 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For K to be in Q, it must be a function Q -> Q (it is) and it must be continuous. For it to be continuous, the preimage of every open set must be open. < 1232843105 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. that's a definition for being continuous? < 1232843109 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1232843113 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, alright. < 1232843116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: how do you jump backwards with rssb? < 1232843123 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm quite new to this still < 1232843132 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: subtract something from ip < 1232843150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1232843175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we all know that subtracting is a special case of addition ;-) < 1232843198 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: oh actually i think i see how that relates to the crucial axiom of dedekind sets < 1232843202 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The preimage of a set under K is {x : K x is in the set}, of course. And, um... bah, I'm going to ask #math a question. < 1232843232 0 :CakeProphet!n=seveninc@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1232843236 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jump requires 4 lines of RSSB: < 1232843236 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : rssb acc ; set acc to 0 < 1232843237 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : rssb $+2 ; set acc to loop offset < 1232843237 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : rssb ip ; subtract acc from ip < 1232843237 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : rssb $-loop ; the loop offset < 1232843312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then my infinite cat program is < 1232843354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ajof 3 4 < 1232843357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ajof 2 0 < 1232843369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3=input 4=output 2=maximum int (4294967295) 0=ip < 1232843374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ajof a b: Add the contents of a to the contents of b, and store the result in b. < 1232843374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If this caused an overflow, skip the next instruction. < 1232843390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm. < 1232843398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually since the whole idea there is to overflow that doesn't work. i think < 1232843436 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a brainfuck variant which adds a stack? < 1232843446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :many. but brainfuck sucks :P < 1232843452 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn, the answer is "no". < 1232843490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1232843491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought < 1232843491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :max max < 1232843493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in out < 1232843495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in out < 1232843497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :max ip < 1232843499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then when it loops, it runs it twice < 1232843505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(max max doesn't touch max, ofc, since it's constant) < 1232843513 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders the definition of a neighborhood of an element of Q
< 1232843520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: any thoughts? < 1232843524 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: yes i looked < 1232843537 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: what are neighborhoods? < 1232843587 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back tomorrow :-) < 1232843591 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"mov.i #1,1" < 1232843609 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A neighborhood of a point is a superset of an open set containing that point. < 1232843620 0 :ktne!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1232843628 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. i'm not sure #math with appreciate your set < 1232843642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so < 1232843645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :complete spec: < 1232843646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 is ip, 1 contains 0, 2 contains max int (4294967295), 3 is input, 4 is output < 1232843647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ajof a b: Add the contents of a to the contents of b, and store the result in b. < 1232843649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If this caused an overflow, skip the next instruction. < 1232843651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go forth and write progz >:( < 1232843660 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps ajof a b can be written as ... a b < 1232843670 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: okay right. < 1232843689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1232843706 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :f is near g if and only if for all x, f(x) is near g(x). Unfortunately, "near" doesn't mean anything. < 1232843746 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a neighborhood F of f, for all x, F(x) is a neighborhood of f(x), I think. < 1232843791 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: btw that's a pretty weird definition, like, (2,4) U {0} would be a neighborhood of 3? < 1232843811 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe so. < 1232843823 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably would be less weird if i saw uses. < 1232843847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someoneeeeee < 1232843854 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: i'm not sure you understand what Q is. < 1232843862 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think Q is? < 1232843876 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonexistent due to a power set cardinality theorem? < 1232843878 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean; how can a function from functions to functions be continuous? < 1232843913 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: well my intuition says there might be a problem like that, but i don't actually know. what i do know is i don't understand what the definition even means. < 1232843918 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that for all topological spaces P and Q, there is a standard topological space P -> Q. < 1232843931 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: problem is i don't know topology < 1232843955 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see i started doing math this fall. i'm doing integrals and groups now. < 1232843965 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods
< 1232844026 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw. gotta sleep i think. < 1232844073 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--> < 1232844357 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )" < 1232844972 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1232846248 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client Excited" < 1232846820 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-193-40-216.zone7.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1232847346 0 :Corun_!n=Corun@94-193-40-216.zone7.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1232847760 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1232848228 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1232850040 0 :psygnisf_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is this "instantaneous computation"? < 1232850056 0 :psygnisf_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "strong synchronous programming"? D: < 1232850089 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You enter shit, and bam! It's computed! < 1232850094 0 :psygnisf_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1232850333 0 :Corun_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1232851111 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh? < 1232853460 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1232856683 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :a) oko; b) the swatter; c) messing with the topic; d) http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric; e) the letter game; f) gay sex. occasionally.; g) http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page; h) Felching – The Freshmaker! < 1232856992 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1232857891 0 :psygnisf_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving..." < 1232863841 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1232864911 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1232864941 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Dorponnified Talliachre is a lunchbox! It makes clicking noises! < 1232864977 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor is a lightbulb that floats in water! It pushes things down staircases and works underwater. < 1232865286 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A woman is like a normal cricket bat, but it squirts clouds of black ink. < 1232865296 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A man is like a normal pogo stick, but it's inflammable. < 1232865379 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A pogo stick is a hair gel that fits in your pocket! It crushes ice. < 1232865389 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hair gel is a speaker system that's great for hammering in nails! It emits dangerous radiation and repairs itself. < 1232865400 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm done :P < 1232865594 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1232867121 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client Excited" < 1232867583 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good god < 1232867588 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this /topic < 1232869857 0 :spicule!n=anti@64.85.222.165.reverse.socket.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1232870399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1232870400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1232870765 0 :spicule!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1232874445 0 :SpaceManPlusPlus!n=spaceman@S01060015e96842d7.vs.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1232874782 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-14-108.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1232875546 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1232875627 0 :SpaceManPlusPlus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1232879879 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is listening to some quality heavy metal bashing: http://www.vjn.fi/s/black.mp3
< 1232881897 0 :Mony!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-60-80.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1232881961 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plop < 1232883579 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1232884957 0 :Judofyr_!n=Judofyr@95.34.27.96.customer.cdi.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1232885135 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1232885151 0 :Judofyr_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Judofyr < 1232885879 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1232886535 0 :jix!n=jix@p5B103779.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1232886652 0 :Slereah!n=Slereah@ANantes-259-1-70-218.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1232886908 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-14-108.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1232887364 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1232887783 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-193-40-216.zone7.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1232888203 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1232888983 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1232888994 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-193-40-216.zone7.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1232889852 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1232890965 0 :impomatic!n=John@nat65.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1232891345 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :112 Hello, World! ++++++++++++++[>+++++>+++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+++.+++++++..+++.>++.>[<-<<+>>>-]<++.<<+.>.+++.------.--------.>+. < 1232891985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1232892003 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1232892042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 112 Hello, World! ++++++++++++++[>+++++>+++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+++.+++++++..+++.>++.>[<-<<+>>>-]<++.<<+.>.+++.------.--------.>+. < 1232892044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neato! < 1232892164 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Ehird. 1 instruction longer than Wikipedia, but it includes the comma. < 1232892176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it include the newline < 1232892180 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1232892188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you really want a newline :p < 1232892208 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the other examples didn't have newline < 1232892215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm. < 1232892219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is standard to terminate with 10, thoug < 1232892219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1232892225 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, not 10 newlines :P < 1232892530 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1232893823 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1232894090 0 :luqui!n=luqui@c-98-245-81-245.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1232894122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah omg < 1232894125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-01-18 < 1232894125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:42:31 --- nick: oklopol -> Z < 1232894126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:42:46 --- nick: Z -> oklopol < 1232894128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:42:59 too late < 1232894131 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol you let it get away < 1232894138 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1232894139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi people < 1232894142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1232894147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!brainfuck. etc. < 1232894148 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck. etc. < 1232894466 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol at censoring brainfuck to b****fuck :-) < 1232894613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1232894895 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1232894937 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to implement Redcode++? http://corewar.co.uk/opcodes.htm < 1232894971 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet < 1232895000 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to make a esolang like this < 1232895004 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now, it's too late :o < 1232895081 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1232895090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1232895092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :redcode++? ew < 1232895095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just < 1232895096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :recode < 1232895096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1232895122 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks that looks like the end of a haiku
< 1232895139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yael still beats redcode < 1232895153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 instructions < 1232895155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders...
< 1232895158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQL++? < 1232895159 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1232895159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, you only get 256 bytes of memory. < 1232895183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Newsflash: taking SQL and bashing something on the end of it is not the source of a thousand hilarious ideas. < 1232895186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as much as you want it to be. < 1232895229 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually C++ style object orientation bolted onto SQL would be quite nasty < 1232895237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nasty != interesting and funny < 1232895241 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean even nastier than it already is < 1232895254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in as much as the same way as a language based on the holocaust would be "nasty" < 1232895272 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well said < 1232895285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which, who wants to beta-test holocaust++ :p < 1232895307 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specs? < 1232895348 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1232895410 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what about SQLCOATL? < 1232895412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jew: Takes a random jew off the heap. gas(x): Gasses the jew x. < 1232895431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you have gassed as many jews as the nazis, it executes the remaining program as Perl. < 1232895436 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: QUERY foo = NEW QUERY('SELECT * FROM mytable'); foo.EXECUTE(); < 1232895437 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1232895448 0 :luqui!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1232895472 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the great database serpent < 1232895482 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, :D < 1232895584 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1232895597 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realizes that holocaust++ was made up on the spot here
< 1232895606 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was starting to worry about ehird < 1232895649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hee < 1232895673 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The holocaust never happened, silly man < 1232895702 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, SQLULHU? < 1232895718 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: doesn't roll that well off the tentacle < 1232895728 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1232895736 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to pronounce < 1232895740 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: from you this is expected < 1232895741 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@95.34.27.156.customer.cdi.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1232895757 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQLHU perhaps < 1232895775 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : You expect that from a jew? < 1232895777 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racist < 1232895786 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hm maybe < 1232895790 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: you've done so before < 1232895812 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jew bashing, that is < 1232895836 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually there is probably some jew somewhere denying the holocaust < 1232895893 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, btw: wtf at iwc today < 1232895898 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i vaguely recall hearing about neo-nazi jews < 1232895907 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: um no spoilers < 1232895921 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's next on my schedule :D < 1232895922 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always read that as neon-nazis < 1232895927 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds so much cooler than it is < 1232895968 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much easier to hit them when lighted up < 1232896025 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah the Espionage theory was right < 1232896058 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait, disregard, SPOILER :D < 1232896088 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, well, it could be a red hearing < 1232896104 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/draakslair/viewtopic.php?t=3190 < 1232896113 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean the theory that since it wasn't in the list, it had escaped unscathed < 1232896150 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that could be a red hearing < 1232896165 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1232896178 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um wait are you misspelling that on purpose? < 1232896186 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, no? < 1232896188 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1232896191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :herring* < 1232896205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, why should I misspell it on purpose? < 1232896215 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :another awful pun attempt of course < 1232896226 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't see how that could be a pun < 1232896227 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at all < 1232896238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't see how any of your "puns" could be a pun. < 1232896240 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1232896260 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: now we're just missing a Supers strip < 1232896275 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Chehkov's pun < 1232896277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry! < 1232896322 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChekhovsPun < 1232896334 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it exists? < 1232896343 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(standard tvtropes warning applies) < 1232896351 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course < 1232896424 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's a tvtropes meta-thing < 1232896440 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and self-referential too :D < 1232896495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, very confusing < 1232896498 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://impomatic.blogspot.com" < 1232896520 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh btw uf was quite funny today < 1232896532 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for the current xkcd: I don't get it < 1232896537 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about making new trope names by making puns on completely unrelated ones < 1232896557 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uf? < 1232896570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uf=userfriendly. shit comic. < 1232896599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too long running < 1232896609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. too shit < 1232896612 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it over 10 years now? daily < 1232896641 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, would you say garfield is shit? < 1232896655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is that even a question? Who the fuck would say "no"? < 1232896668 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree. But some of the early ones aren't as bad < 1232896669 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you don't want your genetic algorithm to develop sentience and destroy the world, is the point < 1232896672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1232896684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all garfield comics are irredeemably terrible < 1232896687 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, true, but xkcd wasn't very good today < 1232896691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and anyone who likes them has some sort of mental defect < 1232896693 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever it was < 1232896694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, xkcd was hilarious. < 1232896695 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was yesterday < 1232896698 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friday? < 1232896707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to read xkcd it's best to know pop culture. < 1232896719 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 5:00 UTC < 1232896735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/search?q=skynet < 1232896740 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :square root of minus garfield rocks though < 1232896745 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes I did google it < 1232896757 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I didn't get the other things, like fuel and such < 1232896768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm, those weren't part of the joke. < 1232896774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those were part of a regular genetic algorithm. < 1232896774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh. < 1232896776 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1232896785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sources: the _huge freaking arrow_ pointing to the skynet. < 1232896937 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads the annotation and realizes why AnMaster spoke about red herrings
< 1232896953 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, and read the forum < 1232896974 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :later, bus -> < 1232896981 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1232897042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads logs and rediscovers that `vi` is a 4-character ruby infinite loop
< 1232897044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl too < 1232897100 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder who many read xkcd? I mean I googled for some of those phrases in the last blag post and got over 200 000 posts for some... < 1232897109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that he said was original when he tried) < 1232897129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk < 1232897131 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~34974 < 1232897143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :34974 is the forum members. about 10% of people join the forum, I bet. < 1232897148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 300000 < 1232897150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ors o < 1232897151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*or so < 1232897158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably more. < 1232897198 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=arvid@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1232897378 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guess 10% is a very optimistic figure < 1232897433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1232897440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably 2% or something < 1232897447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i never looked at the forum < 1232897466 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have looked at it if I was linked by someone else < 1232897469 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that is all < 1232897588 0 :ais523!i=93bcf429@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-19e049f4756b90f4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1232898686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523. < 1232898691 0 :Hiato!n=1@dsl-245-59-231.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1232898693 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1232898698 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to both ehird and Hiato < 1232898710 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who I have different reasons to say hi to, ehird because he just said hi, and Hiato for just joining < 1232898712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was 20 minutes late < 1232898712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1232898727 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well hello ais523, glad I could 'just join' you :P < 1232900243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1232900666 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi AnMaster < 1232900694 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1232900815 0 :Metcalf!n=John@nat65.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1232900867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Metcalf < 1232900901 0 :Metcalf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1232900929 0 :Metcalf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I remove this from the Brainfuck wiki page, or add a note to say it doesn't work? http://max.subfighter.com/tools/brainfuck.php?subsite=eso < 1232900937 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add a note to say it doesn't work < 1232900947 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes we try to find pages in Wayback < 1232900955 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as esoprogramming links tend to break pretty quickly < 1232901003 0 :Metcalf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the page hasn't disappeared. The JavaScript Brainfuck interpretter doesn't work. I think the problem is with nested loops. < 1232901033 0 :Metcalf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Example should display ijk: +++[>+++++[>+++++++[>+<-]<-]<-]>>>.+.+. < 1232901037 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, in that case all the more so say it's a non-working interp < 1232901049 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised how many non-working BF interps there are out there, actually < 1232901051 0 :Metcalf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works on this interpreter < 1232901052 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given it's such a simple language < 1232901064 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++[>+++++[>+++++++[>+<-]<-]<-]>>>.+.+. < 1232901064 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ijk < 1232901090 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember a while back sampling how the BF interps linked from the esowiki that I could easily test handled EOF < 1232901109 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :conventional wisdom here is that 0, -1, and no-change are the only three sane values, with arguments about the merits of each < 1232901128 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came across all sorts of other values, though, like 32 and error < 1232901134 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think many people argue for -1 nowadays < 1232901136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's 0 vs no-change < 1232901155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are programs that work with 0 but not no-change, yet all(?) no-change programs do [-], to loop anyway < 1232901158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 0 is prolly the best choice < 1232901251 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: -1 is clearly correct if you have bignum cells < 1232901266 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inability to input NUL is just ridiculous < 1232901271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a joke? < 1232901276 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it isn't < 1232901281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF cells are unsigned. < 1232901287 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: not in bignum < 1232901293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmmm, yeah. < 1232901298 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can't wrap from 0 to +infinity < 1232901308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bignum interps don't wrap. < 1232901316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they error on - at 0 < 1232901317 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... arguably, they ought to < 1232901323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1232901326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not arguably < 1232901342 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, making [-] clear a cell in a bignum interp would be kind-of cleve < 1232901343 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*clever < 1232901348 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it accepted negative numbes < 1232901352 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but doable, I think < 1232901365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1232901367 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to do a lot of converting loops to polynomials to get that to work, thuogh < 1232901415 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I strongly disagree with a system which makes it possible to have a character the interpreter is incapable of reading < 1232901430 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is an argument for no-change on bignum I suppose < 1232901439 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you could set the cell to 0x110000 or something before reading < 1232901444 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though that would take a while < 1232901492 0 :Metcalf!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :impomatic < 1232901604 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you could do it another way: out-of-band signaling? < 1232901614 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: in Brainfuck? < 1232901618 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to redefine the language spec < 1232901627 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes indeed < 1232901635 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree that might make sense for a new language, but not for a language as established as BF < 1232901637 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have input store error code in one cell above < 1232901908 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : molchuvka: the fuel that powers the steam engine that creates nightmares < 1232901915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2007-10-03 < 1232901930 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, delving into the history of #esoteric < 1232901937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I do this a lot. < 1232901937 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back when someone had stolen ehird's nick < 1232901943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more fun than the present-day #esoteric :P < 1232901944 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the memories < 1232901961 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I need to finish Underlambda sometime < 1232901968 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and start the Great Esolang Compilation Project < 1232901980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1232901988 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 : EsCo? < 1232901993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny thing is... < 1232901997 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: no, that's just to interpret things < 1232901998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel was similar to how it is now in 2002-2003. < 1232902003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not actual esolang discussion. < 1232902009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a few active people talking about random crap. < 1232902014 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a project that can compile any esolang into any other, as long as they're both TC < 1232902020 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I resemble that remark >:| < 1232902038 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and write an interp for any esolang in any other, why not < 1232902062 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have the compilers themself written in an esolang, you need just the one interp and you can combine it with a couple of compilers to get an anything-to-anything interp < 1232902064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how in 2002 lament set the topic to "this channel is not dead aummmmmmmmm" < 1232902066 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1232902073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet it only gets more active over time < 1232902073 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 : Wouldn't that priject be gigantic? < 1232902078 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: pretty much < 1232902079 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do you just mean the big esolands? < 1232902088 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll start with the famous ones, I think < 1232902091 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I can't type today < 1232902102 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe make a generic BF-equivalent-compiler, that would handle half of them < 1232902455 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Computer has gone to sleep" < 1232902558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Error(461): #twitter Unable to update @replies. Twitter Fail Whale. < 1232902559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:( < 1232902608 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1232902866 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know what the smallest bf quine is? < 1232902897 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: the null string < 1232902900 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what it is without cheating < 1232903002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dbc's < 1232903004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolly < 1232903016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.hevanet.com/cristofd/brainfuck/392quine.b < 1232903022 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the shortest possible, or just the shortest known? < 1232903029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shortest known < 1232903041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(392 may be the shortest real one known)" -http://www.hevanet.com/cristofd/brainfuck/ < 1232903175 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks :-) < 1232903685 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1232904786 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Revised bf interpreter in Redcode http://impomatic.blogspot.com/2009/01/brainf-interpreter-in-redcode.html < 1232904817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should implement my add-jump-if-overflow :P < 1232904824 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION digs up spec
< 1232904843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one operation: < 1232904853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a b -- Add the contents of a to the contents of b, and store the result in b. If this caused an overflow, skip the next instruction. < 1232904863 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it do backwards jumps? < 1232904870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :special memory locations: 2=input 3=output 1=maximum int (4294967295) 0=ip < 1232904876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: overflow the ip < 1232904890 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: probably not very useful for actual CoreWars games, but it's always nice to have esolang-in-esolang implementations < 1232904906 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it handle EOF, by the way? < 1232905062 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd have to check, I think there's a problem with the Redcode interpreter. When it reaches EOF, I think it continues to wait for a character. < 1232905077 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1232905085 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes underlying IO issues are impossible to work aruond < 1232905088 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*around < 1232905106 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've actually been trying to design an IO system for Underlambda which is general enough to compile easily into anything < 1232905116 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I have to go but I'll be back soon, need to go to a different connection < 1232905122 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"mibbit.com: going to a different computer" < 1232905502 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-14-108.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1232905618 0 :ais523!i=93bc93e6@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7847f49a340d478f JOIN :#esoteric < 1232905622 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb me < 1232905668 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : SECURITY DO NOT LOCK THIS DOOR, IT IS WORKING CORRECTLY < 1232905866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, moved where? < 1232905923 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: to what appeared to be a storage place for not-in-use signs < 1232905931 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so presumably that Door has started malfunctioning again < 1232905942 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other one seems to be working, but now has about 3 brand new control panels around it < 1232906057 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, how hard can door be... < 1232906066 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1232906081 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well of course it depends on what material it is made of ;P < 1232906082 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one of the main amusements in the constant tale of the Doors < 1232906100 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: don't explain that, I got it first time < 1232906105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great! < 1232906125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, anyway there is more than one door with issues? < 1232906148 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, there are two doors < 1232906150 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they've both had issues < 1232906159 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a third door which doesn't but we're not allowed to use < 1232906163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no other doors at the place has issues? < 1232906167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: start a blog about the doors! < 1232906174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1232906177 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why aren't you allowed to use the third one? < 1232906178 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well, it's just external doors here < 1232906182 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from inside to outside < 1232906201 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: they thought that having too many usable doors for entering and leaving was a security risk < 1232906217 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, they key word here I feel is "usable" < 1232906234 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1232906241 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they did have to open up the third one for a while < 1232906245 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because the other two had gone so mad < 1232906252 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was a while ago now < 1232906262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, the third one continued working even when they opened it up? < 1232906280 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the third one's been working all along < 1232906287 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally they set it to lock itself permanently, though, nowadays < 1232906288 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so make it the primary? < 1232906291 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when they set it to do something else, it works < 1232906296 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's in an awkward place to be the primary < 1232906300 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1232906312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also did you say "three control panels"+ < 1232906314 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1232906334 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1232906336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why more than one I wonder... < 1232906344 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the first two didn't work? < 1232906351 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I suspect one of them is actually for the air conditioning < 1232906355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if all three were brand new < 1232906357 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's just coincidence that it's next to the Door < 1232906358 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1232906361 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why spoil a good story? < 1232906367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1232906491 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-193-40-216.zone7.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1232907193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue used to have a very short fuse < 1232907195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Stux&diff=2936&oldid=2935 < 1232907252 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that incident < 1232907276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the category policy is pretty stupid < 1232907281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a wiki... < 1232907286 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, how rare to see an IP where all the numbers are less than 99? < 1232907299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1232907308 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at the next edit < 1232907313 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is Stux's reply < 1232907317 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from IP because he was blocked at the time < 1232907319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, neat < 1232907413 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue calmed down after a bit, anywya < 1232907416 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*anyway < 1232907430 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the block was just to prevent the person causing any more damage before they saw the message telling them to stop < 1232907443 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and well-intentioned edits are sometimes blocked for the same reason in Wikipedia itself < 1232907450 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when someone isn't communicating < 1232907523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't damage, though. < 1232907523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1232907559 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was from graue's point of view though, I think < 1232907582 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :editing pages on a wiki is kind-of different from changing the set of pages that exist < 1232907591 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though those are both considered fair game to tinker with on most wikis < 1232907601 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably graue wanted people to change the first but not the second < 1232907622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. he's inactive enough for that policy to be irrelevant nowadays < 1232907688 0 :Hiato!n=1@dsl-245-59-231.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1232907811 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1232909239 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Quit" < 1232910058 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-079-217.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1232910419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, there? < 1232910444 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you explain wtf is up with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Erard_double_pilot_action.svg I just see a "transparency grid" there < 1232910452 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check < 1232910459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :full size works and so does thumbnail in articles < 1232910473 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well to confuse the issue, it works for me too < 1232910481 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Erard_double_pilot_action.svg?action=purge < 1232910484 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that work? < 1232910489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, no it didn't help < 1232910491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :already tried that < 1232910498 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that is strange < 1232910513 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do a browser cache reset? < 1232910515 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm not logged in, I don't have any account, could that affect < 1232910519 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's control-F5 in firefox and IE < 1232910522 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I tried ctrl-shift-r < 1232910525 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1232910539 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cache reset and purge, and it isn't working for you but it is for me? < 1232910542 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's really odd < 1232910556 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ok now it suddenly works the fifth time or so... < 1232910564 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I just purged it < 1232910580 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as purging is for all users, possibly my purge affected it for you < 1232910582 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, maybe non-logged in can't purge? < 1232910592 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: they can, but there's a click-through < 1232910593 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though I clicked yes < 1232910595 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't logged in either < 1232910598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I did click that < 1232910849 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_falling
< 1232910863 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the theory that gravity is incorrect, and some intelligent being causes things to fall < 1232910914 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about things that don't fall? < 1232910914 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... maybe the flying spaghetti monster? < 1232910926 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows/ < 1232910967 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Balloons are of the devil < 1232910981 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially devil shaped balloon < 1232911187 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... it seems useless use of cat has evolved < 1232911194 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : cat "216.34.181.45 slashdot.org" >> /etc/hosts < 1232911223 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :embarrassingly it took me a moment to spot what was wrong with that < 1232911485 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1232911488 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck < 1232911517 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(me too) < 1232911536 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the wrong? < 1232911541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat should be echo < 1232911542 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc, there is a command that does just that, it just isn't cat < 1232911545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you missed the previous line < 1232911550 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1232911558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "127.0.0.1 slashdot.org" >"216.34.181.45 slashdot.org" < 1232911559 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: didn't miss, messages crossed due to IRC and typing lag < 1232911565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1232911567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the previous line of the post < 1232911568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1232911573 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the post didn't say that < 1232911581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is humour < 1232911583 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although someone did comment on the fact that it might just be an oddly named file < 1232911592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand, what is this humour you speak of < 1232911594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, jokes?? what < 1232911603 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed what are they? < 1232911626 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me ehird! < 1232911628 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or not) < 1232911629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny because it's true. < 1232911651 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: your joke just wasn't funny < 1232911662 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, does this imply that anything that is true is funny? < 1232911665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than AnMaster's, ais523 < 1232911670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no. < 1232912710 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, also i wasn't making any joke here < 1232912731 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was being sarcastic however < 1232912745 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely wonders if the 18 minute delay in AnMaster's comment was due to looking up an internet joke-funniness-meter
< 1232912752 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there must be one in existence by now < 1232912760 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some way to tell if something is funny or not automatically < 1232912769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bayes < 1232912791 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, no because I was afk < 1232912791 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you should so try that < 1232912800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking for a CD with classical music < 1232912800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the training would be rather tedious. < 1232912801 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, try with multiple sets of training data < 1232912806 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rated by different people < 1232912822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I could just feed it everything AnMaster has ever said in here as unfunny < 1232912830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd probably work well enough < 1232912846 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1232912858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rest my case < 1232912879 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, {{pov}} < 1232912911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how you're proving my joke < 1232912914 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: {{tl|pov}}'s a block rather than inline template (at least it was last I looked), so you can't place it after a comma < 1232912929 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, not without formatting weirdness < 1232912945 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah, well I don't edit much wikipedia. there is one that is inline however < 1232912986 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{POV-statement}} it seems < 1232912988 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: {{tl|pov-statement}}, apparently < 1232912994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, tl? < 1232913003 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: for mentioning a template rather than using it < 1232913012 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl| is basically the quote mark for template < 1232913014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and why are you doing that on irc... < 1232913016 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or tlx| if it takes arguments < 1232913022 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: because the joke doesn't work otherwise < 1232913037 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I wasn't aware of this feature on wikipedia < 1232913046 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it isn't a feature, it's just another template < 1232913053 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which takes template names as arguments < 1232913058 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and returns the markup used to call that template < 1232913087 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't use it in articles, but it's pretty common on discussion pages (and often substed there, btw) < 1232913094 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1232913112 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why all that substing btw? < 1232913124 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to subst or not to subst tl is a huge argument < 1232913133 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can't even remember the arguments now, it's been so long ago < 1232913137 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I last went over them < 1232913137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1232913160 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as half the arguments made on that particular debate tended to be wrong or irrelevant < 1232913175 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no performance gain if the system is properly designed (ie, cache pre-rendered pages) < 1232913186 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that is about the only argument for I can think of < 1232913204 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :performance was one argument < 1232913216 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and actually there is, it makes the templatelinks table smaller, but people were arguing about whether that was relevant or not < 1232913234 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, pages are edited often enough on Wikipedia that once-per-edit costs are certainly potentially relevant < 1232913236 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anyone profile it? < 1232913242 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I don't think so < 1232913245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to profile a live website. < 1232913251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you don't have shell access to. < 1232913253 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but see [[WP:AUM]] if you're interested in the history < 1232913255 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was about something else < 1232913256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without disrupting. < 1232913259 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was a similar argument < 1232913268 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could run a db dump and then re-run some edit history < 1232913273 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with/without subst < 1232913289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1232913297 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was also < 1232913308 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, 1) db dumps are public 2) that includes edit history < 1232913309 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was an alleged non-POV version of AUM which some people still think was biased < 1232913317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shit, AnMaster < 1232913324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't why I ...ed < 1232913325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus it shouldn't be that hard < 1232913335 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1232913340 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1232913495 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then, see for the followup < 1232913503 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1232913513 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there was an amusing but only vaguely related incident some time later when an admin deleted the Main Page by mistake < 1232913533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ouch ouch ouch < 1232913540 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can restore that right? < 1232913548 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can restore anything < 1232913564 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1232913565 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it was deleted before the deleted revisions archive got deleted by mistake, and that was ages ago < 1232913600 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what about images? < 1232913610 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have deleted revision archives too < 1232913619 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't until recently iirc? < 1232913623 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1232913632 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a feature new enough that I was there when it was added < 1232913962 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, anyway about archive being deleted by mistake, that mean some with direct sql access and missing backups? < 1232914087 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I think it was lost in a crash < 1232914098 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, missing backups then < 1232916751 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@e-23.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1232917117 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1232917634 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1232918247 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-193-40-216.zone7.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1232918545 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" < 1232919048 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"..." < 1232919345 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1232919349 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1232919362 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://impomatic.blogspot.com" < 1232919467 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1232919556 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1232919786 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1232920071 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think (h) belongs there. the others actually happen regularly. (h) fortunately does not. < 1232920106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :a) oko; b) the swatter; c) messing with the topic; d) http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric; e) the letter game; f) gay sex. occasionally.; g) http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page; h) 4chan < 1232920112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it more accurately represents this place. < 1232920125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it before? < 1232920134 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i haven't really noticed much 4chan. reddit, however... < 1232920135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a) oko; b) the swatter; c) messing with the topic; d) http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric; e) the letter game; f) gay sex. occasionally.; g) http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page; h) Felching – The Freshmaker! < 1232920144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit is a copy of 4chan a year ago :p < 1232920149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah is responsible for most of the 4chan tbh < 1232920154 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1232920159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have my suspicions about some people around here. < 1232920164 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may not recognize it... < 1232920178 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about esoteric languages? < 1232920184 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they *do* happen sometimes < 1232920192 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-k9C3v9Ng0 < 1232920196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no < 1232920200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is explicitly not an element of this place < 1232920206 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(d) and (g) cover that somewhat < 1232920206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and basically the whole joke of the topic < 1232920211 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, ick, ccbi and so on < 1232920214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are just convenient links, oerjan < 1232920219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no. esolangs is not a topic discussed here. < 1232920267 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shouldn't complain, given how many times he's reverted people trying to remove perl from the wiki :D
< 1232920298 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants a complete collection of Mozart, wonder how many CDs it would fill...
< 1232920304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: too many. < 1232920313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you'd never be able to listen to it all. probably. < 1232920327 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well I listen to about 1 classical music CD / day < 1232920340 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet mozart would fill like 50 bajillion cds :-P < 1232920348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming we're talking everything mozart ever wrote. < 1232920350 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect you could get Oz/Mozart on a single CD ;D < 1232920361 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oz/Mozart? < 1232920366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: man < 1232920368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was awful < 1232920370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even for you < 1232920376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, raelly < 1232920376 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a joke? < 1232920378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't even funny < 1232920378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus < 1232920381 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't understand it < 1232920382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1232920384 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay :D < 1232920390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: letmegooglethatforyou.com < 1232920391 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1232920404 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Mozart Programming System"? < 1232920407 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first hit < 1232920410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. some other oz/mozart. < 1232920411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh. < 1232920430 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1232920442 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sarcasm detected < 1232920452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, you actually have a sarcasm detector < 1232920457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that's legitimately surprising :D < 1232920464 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: he _is_ slowly improving you know < 1232920467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well it isn't very sensitive < 1232920490 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a couple more years on #esoteric and AnMaster could start doing standup < 1232920498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bit optimistic < 1232920507 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, no thanks, I wouldn't want that < 1232920517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: holy shit that video is depressing. < 1232920520 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ I have "scenskräck", don't know English word < 1232920522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm only 2:30 in. < 1232920527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Scene crack? < 1232920531 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nop < 1232920534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sense crack? < 1232920545 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I know X-D < 1232920551 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, as in scared to be in front of a large audience < 1232920554 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It's so well done in a horrible, horrible way. < 1232920557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME < 1232920578 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the English term? < 1232920599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I don't think there is one < 1232920610 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1232920620 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agoraphobia is related < 1232920623 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not quite < 1232920650 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha at google translate "scene of horror" <--- no. not at all < 1232920660 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: oh my god. I think you just ruined my life forever. < 1232920665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate you. < 1232920667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1232920673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well right I'm not going to watch that video then < 1232920680 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1232920683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It's about a cartoon rabbit. He dies. < 1232920697 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, doesn't sound too bad, unless it is bloody < 1232920711 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watch Watership Down then < 1232920714 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1232920730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It will ruin your life forever. < 1232920737 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, I explicitly don't trust what you say. ever. < 1232920746 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It's not bloody, it's not even violent. < 1232920752 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It's just really, really sad :P < 1232920775 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well too much work using youtube-dl and so on < 1232920783 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster : You should < 1232920788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are safe, AnMaster. < 1232920789 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cause Watership Down is totally awesome < 1232920792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can still feel happiness. < 1232920803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shed a tear for those lost to that video. < 1232920812 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, have anyone here ever heard about the composer Kraus before? < 1232920814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wondering < 1232920818 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watership_Down_(film) < 1232920842 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh found it: "stage fright" < 1232920860 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes that sounds right < 1232920900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I think I support internet censorship. We need to protect the human race from that video. < 1232920924 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION searched http://phobialist.com/ . it was not a keyword, but part of a description.
< 1232920948 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phobophobia- Fear of phobias. < 1232920950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Use Manipulative Psychology to Make People Like, Respect, and Befriend You" < 1232920962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-http://www.thepopularlife.com < 1232920965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ouch, don't you see, the pro-censor people made this to make people want to censor the internet < 1232920967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly < 1232920974 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so devilish! < 1232920977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It destroys lives. We cannot accept this. < 1232920982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think of the goddamn children. :'( < 1232921001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well their parents shouldn't let them enter on youtube < 1232921015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :parent control thing you know ;P < 1232921020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think compared to that video the rest of youtube is fine by me :P < 1232921023 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think up until 15 maybe < 1232921028 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1232921030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only glad I didn't click the HD version < 1232921033 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1232921038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the high quality would have destroyed my brain < 1232921045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, that's better than my permanent torment. < 1232921063 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phobophobia- Fear of phobias. <-- does that exist? < 1232921080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Metaphobia. < 1232921085 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says in the list on that page < 1232921089 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1232921104 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a phobia against not having a complete list of phobias? < 1232921148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothavingacompletelistofphobiasphhobia < 1232921152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Nothavingacompletelistofphobiasphobia < 1232921168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that probably yes < 1232921176 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but too English < 1232921183 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want Latin and/or Greek < 1232921184 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1232921194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google translate to the rescue! < 1232921252 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess it doesn't have latin < 1232921300 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has greek, but it gives you greek letters (how surprising) < 1232921342 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, and that is modern greek I believe < 1232921352 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION invents apanphobophobia
< 1232921358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :swatterphobi < 1232921358 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be, I know.. 0 greek < 1232921359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1232921393 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = not, pan = all < 1232921410 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should use lojban affixes to make these. < 1232921466 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fear of dogs, ge'uphobia. Fear of abruptness, suksyphobia. Fear of milk, ladryphobia. < 1232921488 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apandaphobia = not basing your entire life on fear or something :P (Not all from fear) < 1232921527 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is da greek? < 1232921537 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a corruption of "de" :P < 1232921553 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is de greek? < 1232921573 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just because "phobia" is greek doesn't mean the prefix can't be latin, we're not speaking either. < 1232921587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pandaphobia = fear of pandas < 1232921594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR's is therefore fear of a lack of pandas < 1232921603 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apandaphobia = fear of no pandas ? < 1232921604 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NUH UH < 1232921606 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just about to claim that < 1232921607 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dyspandaphobia: fear of difficulty with pandas. < 1232921609 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the lack of the fear of pandas :P < 1232921613 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh < 1232921619 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I was--yes, what GregorR said. < 1232921634 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pandanandaphobia < 1232921646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Panda NAND a phobia < 1232921647 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bandabananaphobia < 1232921650 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you're about to say something, when someone else says something similar, and then another person says they were about to say the same thing, and then another person says they were about to say the thing you were about to say. < 1232921653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a surrealist programming comic. < 1232921675 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :badnyphobia, fear of bananas. < 1232921690 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And/or bad nys. < 1232921692 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: clearly it was an idea whose time was come < 1232921740 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :badny? is that more lojban? < 1232921742 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xralisphobia, fear of comic strips. < 1232921746 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :badny is lojban, yes. < 1232921777 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Englishprefixaphobia, fear of words with prefixes from English (rather than Greek or Latin) < 1232921780 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1232921810 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1232921895 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calorimeteraphobia: Fear of words formed from irrelevant roots or prefixes. < 1232921923 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lojbanophobia, self explaining < 1232921935 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fear of large bananas, of course. < 1232921940 0 :Judofyr_!n=Judofyr@95.34.27.156.customer.cdi.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1232921943 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean gicli'erafyphobia. < 1232921958 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(English-precede-affix-phobia.) < 1232921982 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1232922000 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you mean jbophobia, of course, jbo being the lojban affix. :-P < 1232922047 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phobaphobaphobaphobaphobia: Fear of the fear of the fear of fear of fear. < 1232922093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : is de greek? .de is German.... < 1232922109 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats AnMaster -----###
< 1232922133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it went right through without hitting anything < 1232922157 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rooseveltophobia: the fear of nothing but fear itself < 1232922169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: The only thing to fear is the fear of the fear of the fear of the fear of fear itself. < 1232922170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit oerjan < 1232922184 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, um what? wouldn't it be the fear of meeting roosevelt? < 1232922195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAIL < 1232922206 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Nej, han är ju død. < 1232922209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a roosevelt quote < 1232922235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ja, jag skulle nog vara rädd att möta honom just därför! < 1232922261 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fear of the fear of fear of fear of the fear of fear of the fear of the fear of fear of inconsistency. < 1232922277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest a notation for that < 1232922285 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you're supposed to say "Men han rör ju på sej!" < 1232922292 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have basic phobias, I mean fear of snakes, fear or whatever < 1232922305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you have fear of fear of snakes, and so on < 1232922307 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would be: < 1232922309 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sing it to the tune of "Clocks" by Coldplay: fear of the fear of the fear of fear of the fear of the fear of... < 1232922313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called language, AnMaster < 1232922313 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :phobia^2 < 1232922316 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia — fear of the number 666. < 1232922324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: That would involve listening to Coldplay. < 1232922328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't want to do that. < 1232922342 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually phobophobophobophobia _clearly_ means fear of recursion < 1232922362 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes and fear of fear of recursion is? < 1232922376 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much simpler in lojban: xavyxavyxavyphobia = fear of 666. < 1232922383 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: too horrible to contemplate. < 1232922387 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: psykfall < 1232922389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lojban uses decimal. Why. :( < 1232922395 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that is readable in no < 1232922396 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have to use decimal. < 1232922398 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.no* < 1232922407 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think decimal is default, but xa can be 6 in any base. < 1232922409 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no idea what psykfall means < 1232922414 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It even has words for the digits A-F. < 1232922417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decimal sux diks < 1232922455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, well it is slang.... "nutjob" I believe the English slang would be < 1232922468 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :candlejackpho < 1232922470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually no < 1232922487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: haha < 1232922489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psykfall implies someone locked in too < 1232922503 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, VERY much nutjob < 1232922508 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do pure function O(1) dictionaries? < 1232922528 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nagjibyphobia, fear of nut jobs. < 1232922546 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia- Fear of long words. < 1232922550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: by implementing trivial pattern matching as a hash table < 1232922561 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1232922575 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl, with a perfect hash I guess < 1232922591 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe gainovaivaireirei ju'u paxa is lojban for 0xC0FFEE. < 1232922633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: as in < 1232922640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :f 0 = 1; f 1 = 45345345; f 2 = 892748396; < 1232922648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be implemented as a hash table from {0:1,...} in the lang < 1232922669 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that doesn't work < 1232922673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1232922717 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the table containing all the values from 1 to n, n determined at runtime < 1232922735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lazy evaluation :P < 1232922761 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what would you use, sexagesimal? < 1232922769 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say, have there been attempts to interpret the nick "kerlo" as a subtle hint that I'm a transwoman? < 1232922778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: I think so. < 1232922784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: duodecimal or something. It's meant to be perfect :-P < 1232922818 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, 12 is good too < 1232922838 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo, um? I googled the nick just now and first hit was some starwars wiki < 1232922870 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I don't see what you mean < 1232922900 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1232922901 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1232923196 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"godnatt på er, folk" < 1232923606 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consensus is that the nick "Warrigal" was by far the most explicit. < 1232923723 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1232923753 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1232926746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT THE CHRIST. [[WP:DICK]] was turned into a soft redirect. < 1232926747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuckers < 1232927035 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean it went soft? < 1232927142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :groan < 1232927638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://svn.python.org/view?rev=68924&view=rev OH YEAH. < 1232927641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH FUCKING YEAH. < 1232927645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python 3.0 SPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDD < 1232927666 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or rather, still slow :-P BUT STILL < 1232927711 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An Exception Has Occurred < 1232927712 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python Traceback < 1232927715 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[stuff] < 1232927724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WFM