00:00:18 http://esolangs.org/files/brainfuck/util/textgen.java 00:20:07 GregorR, how can i run it ? linux here 00:38:08 ... it's Java. 00:48:06 i try to run it with gij-4.1 but get an error 00:54:22 -!- dmb has joined. 01:12:38 -!- sebbu2 has quit ("bye"). 01:14:56 -!- dmb_ has joined. 01:15:20 -!- dmb_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 01:23:08 -!- dmb has quit (Connection timed out). 01:44:50 GregorR, the textgen.java gets results worst then me :) 01:49:15 mine: 141 bytes. textgen, till now: 159 01:55:56 GregorR, thank you 01:56:43 -!- g0bl1n has quit ("Leaving"). 02:09:29 God, I'm a glutton for punishment. I'm remerging my system to change my CFLAGS. 02:23:43 You're using Gentoo? You're right, you are a glutton for punishment. 02:23:53 You enjoy that immeasurably tiny speedup though. 02:43:57 Generally I don't care much about the CFLAGS... 02:44:29 For some reason, I have recently come of the opinion that -Os instead of -O2 will be faster (due to my small cache and slow hard drive), though. 02:45:04 And figured 'well, -Os is one of those CFLAGS that's actually sane to use, and it's not like recompiling is that big of a deal; why not?' 02:45:20 Then I started the whole thing, and realised that that'll take a few days. 02:50:29 ¿˙ 02:50:29 O <(Look, it's iChat on IRC!) 02:56:26 -!- kwertii has joined. 03:07:05 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | what 'x = x and y (boolean)' does?. 03:48:32 -!- immibis has joined. 03:48:36 -!- toBogE has joined. 05:08:43 -!- toBogE has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 05:11:46 -!- immibis has quit ("Hi Im a qit msg virus. Pls rplce ur old qit msg wit tis 1 & hlp me tk ovr th wrld of IRC. and dlte ur files. and email ths to). 05:38:49 -!- AnMaster has quit (Connection timed out). 06:10:56 -!- ab5tract has joined. 06:19:52 -!- oklopol has quit (Connection timed out). 06:20:39 -!- oerjan has joined. 07:30:55 -!- AnMaster has joined. 07:36:20 ais523, there? 07:36:29 ais523, seems c-intercal was added to portage(!) 07:39:29 !!! 07:40:02 Congrats, ais523. 07:40:45 And AnMaster, congrats on having an ebuild in Portage. 07:44:30 in other news I had to hit reset button first thing this morning 07:44:34 even sysrq was dead 07:44:51 that is on the computer with the bnc 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:27:15 -!- ab5tract has quit. 08:39:28 -!- bsmntbombdood has changed nick to xor. 08:41:53 -!- xor has changed nick to bsmntbombdood. 08:44:29 -!- bsmntbombdood has changed nick to xor_. 09:07:05 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | I'm preparing a Giki 1.5.0 release.. 09:30:36 -!- kwertii has quit ("night"). 09:54:17 optbot 09:54:17 AnMaster: nothing really 09:54:18 optbot! 09:54:19 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | hm?. 10:24:16 -!- oklocod has joined. 10:26:39 o 10:26:43 -!- oklocod has changed nick to oklopol. 11:51:13 now that i actually read how subleq works, i gotta wonder, can't you traverse memory? 11:51:44 basically, to construct a list, you will need to encode it in a register using some weird modulo system? 11:51:57 that basically means the memory is mostly useless computationally 11:52:10 you could just as easily have just one memory cell 11:52:36 GregorR: you're the expert, perhaps you'll tell me where i went wrong 11:52:50 um you just use pointers, one per cell? 11:53:37 but aren't all commands just a list of absolute references to the memory? 11:53:53 yes. but the commands are modifiable. 11:53:54 Subleq is a simple one instruction language. Each subleq instruction has 3 operands: 11:53:54 A B C 11:53:54 which are memory addresses. Execution of one instruction A B C subtracts the value of memory in A from the content of memory in B. If value after subtraction in B less or equal to zero, then execution jumps to the address C; otherwise to the next instruction. 11:53:58 oh! 11:54:21 "The instructions themselves reside in memory as a sequence of such integers." 11:54:36 thank you, although that was so obvious i should technically kill everyone of you 11:54:43 yes. 11:55:24 i read just the beginning, i like to get confused, ask, and let others read the rest of the text for me. 11:57:39 now i kinda wanna play with that 11:57:45 Is there a good way of commenting Befunge? I'd like to have some sort of system which would let me attach comments to arbitrary sets of funge-space locations, and then when I edit the file to move things around the comments should move too. 11:58:17 as in, some kinda befunge gui? 11:58:28 or just befunge editor 11:58:31 lieek 11:59:19 I would be reasonably content with a simple editor. Either graphical or curses-style, although I guess a GUI thing would have more options for indicating the presence of comments. 12:00:08 well you could have them float around, you know, and perhaps tell you what exactly you're looking at as you're glancing through the code 12:00:22 more like a friend than an editor really. 12:00:41 i have a "lecture", see you -> 12:05:22 FungeFriend might be a good name for a Befunge IDE. 12:05:38 Or maybe it sounds too much like a fungal infection? 12:09:15 -!- oklopol has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 12:09:32 -!- oklocod has joined. 12:16:10 fungefriend sounds nice 12:16:14 -!- oklocod has changed nick to oklopol. 12:40:39 -!- oerjan has quit ("Argh"). 12:53:03 -!- oklopol has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 13:50:54 ais523: 13:52:19 He be offline. 13:52:20 Oddly. 13:56:25 lost the game 14:02:21 ehird, I wonder where he is too 14:02:30 AnMaster: Doing things other than talking on IRC> 14:02:33 Just a hunch. 14:02:40 well yeah probably... 14:02:52 Sometimes people do things. :P 14:03:25 well all the time 14:03:38 Quite. 14:04:13 even if nothing else, as long as you are alive, you perform the action of existing. 14:04:33 Oh shut up. 14:05:00 -!- GregorR has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 14:05:13 and probably one of sit, stand, walk, crawl, lie (and so on).. 14:05:21 s/\.$// 14:07:50 oh man 14:07:52 add-art 14:07:54 what a great extension 14:07:56 it replaces ads with art 14:08:06 why didn't I think of that? 14:08:15 http://add-art.org/ 14:12:05 -!- oklocod has joined. 14:15:59 ehird, art as in famous paintings? 14:16:08 Not sure. 14:16:22 It does have it on the site, you know, but I haven't checked it out. 14:16:27 the pic on the main page seems to just replace it with the text art 14:16:40 That was an example. 14:16:45 also, rbrb. 14:16:58 rbrb? 14:17:05 really be back soon? 14:17:27 really be right back I meant 14:17:40 or maybe rather 14:21:44 i am green 14:46:49 i'm black 14:46:54 racis 14:46:54 t 14:47:11 i'm not talking about skin color 14:47:16 -!- oklocod has changed nick to oklopol. 14:47:19 unlike you 15:07:05 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | !kill 1. 15:49:09 -!- boily has joined. 15:49:13 -!- ENKI-][ has joined. 16:04:38 riddle of the day 16:04:50 four fish, one is green, the other is yellow, what's 2+2? 16:04:58 it's harder than you think 16:10:36 oklopol: 4 16:11:00 no, try again 16:11:17 oklopol: 5 16:11:25 no 16:11:29 oklopol: fish 16:11:35 no 16:11:41 oklopol: 2+2 16:11:44 NO 16:11:45 haha 16:11:46 got you ther 16:11:46 e 16:11:48 :( 16:11:51 oklopol: NO 16:11:55 THIS RIDDLE HAS NO ANSWER, STOP ANSWERING 16:12:07 oklopol: NO 16:12:25 i'm aiming for a boy-who-cried the wolf situation. for the next N days i'm going to give you a riddle, each more ridiculous than the next 16:12:26 but 16:12:46 oklopol: but?? 16:12:50 one of them, is actually so great, so deep, that if you actually tried to solve it, you'd absolutely love it 16:12:56 you'd go craaaaazy 16:12:59 you know 16:13:01 in a good way 16:13:02 oklopol: i'll do it 16:13:09 but no one will ever know which one it is 16:13:19 oklopol: i will ASSEMBLE A COMMITTEE TO SOLVE IT 16:13:45 because to be able to find out which one is the great one, you'd have to try and solve all of them, which is kinda stupid, because most of the time you'd just be searching for nothing. 16:13:53 committee?!? 16:13:55 oklopol: but committee 16:13:58 oh my god 16:14:02 oklopol: yeah 16:14:03 oklopol: ha 16:14:05 you have just defeated me 16:14:06 oklopol: i have defeated you 16:14:07 what now 16:14:08 ha 16:14:09 see 16:14:10 we agree 16:14:12 :D 16:14:13 so much for THAT IDEA 16:14:22 fuck it, i'm gonna get a real job 16:14:29 ;\ 16:19:25 oklopol: does anyone play the counter any more 16:21:00 ehird: i don't know, because i don't. 16:21:05 :D 16:21:08 when did you las tplay 16:21:46 not sure 16:23:57 -!- sebbu has joined. 16:24:17 oklopol: 5 years ago?????? 16:33:58 -!- GregorR has joined. 16:38:36 ehird: no, you silly gangster 16:49:27 -!- psygnisfive has quit ("Leaving..."). 16:53:30 hi ais523 16:57:40 hi ehird 17:00:23 -!- slereah has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)). 17:00:31 -!- Slereah_ has joined. 17:00:34 "Unchurched" or "The Unchurched" or "unchurched people" is defined by the Barna Group as "an adult (18 or older) who has not attended a Christian church service within the past six months" excluding special services such as Easter, Christmas, weddings or funerals.Barna reports there are 75 million "unchurched people" in the United States as of 2004. 17:00:44 And me using it to mean convert lambdas into numbers! 17:01:10 anyway, I have several hundred emails to read through 17:01:16 so I'm likely to be uncommunicative for a bit 17:01:32 AnMaster: I got your /query though, I'll make sure it's fixed before the release 17:02:15 http://img.4chan.org/r9k/src/1223888838875.jpg 17:02:20 That Joe Biden sure can yield logic 17:02:45 ais523, oh and c-intercal got into portage 17:03:37 yes, I noticed 17:13:02 -!- slereah has joined. 17:13:02 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 17:15:18 -!- Slereah_ has joined. 17:15:18 -!- slereah has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 17:23:22 -!- boily has quit ("leaving"). 17:24:18 -!- slereah has joined. 17:36:41 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 17:57:34 -!- slereah has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 17:57:42 -!- Slereah_ has joined. 18:06:32 -!- slereah has joined. 18:06:32 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 18:18:35 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 18:20:11 -!- Slereah_ has joined. 18:20:11 -!- slereah has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 18:26:11 -!- slereah has joined. 18:26:11 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 18:40:54 ais523, so you left again? 18:40:56 oh well 18:41:03 no, I'm still here 18:41:09 just busy catching up on email 18:41:23 * [ais523] is away (Gone away for now.) 18:41:25 * AnMaster shrugs 18:41:33 stupid away checker 18:41:36 ais523, also how can you get that much email? 18:41:42 AnMaster: being subscribed to three nomics 18:41:54 ais523, maybe that isn't a good thing :P 18:42:04 ais523, also, what ones? 18:42:13 Agora, B Nomic, FRC 18:42:19 I'm also in two others, but they aren't email nomics 18:43:10 ais523, I think you may be too much active what that if it takes so much of your free time 18:43:38 it doesn't, just a few hours every Monday to catch up on the weekend 18:44:02 ais523, how goes gcc-bf btw? 18:44:29 stalled 18:44:32 while I do other things 18:44:38 ah stil. 18:44:39 still* 18:44:40 I was working on C-INTERCAL a bit recently, though 18:44:44 let me push the changes 18:44:51 ais523, anything major new? 18:45:00 I fixed some of the bugs you reported 18:45:24 ais523, ah like -F? 18:45:26 also I implemented an optimisation for gerund abstention that Joris sent me months ago 18:45:31 AnMaster: not the -F one yet 18:45:40 it was mostly the build process bugs to do with not cross-compiling 18:45:57 now if you aren't cross-compiling your CC and CFLAGS last through the whole compilation 18:45:57 ais523, also I don't know if it still affects you with new build system, but some gentoo developer made a patch to ensure make -j2 and higher works 18:45:59 although not at runtime 18:46:13 AnMaster: the new build system works fine with -j2 18:46:17 http://rafb.net/p/jYiUEc56.html 18:46:20 was the patch anyway 18:47:04 ah ok, just the old lex/yacc dependencies patch 18:47:11 Automake does that automatically, so I didn't have to think about it 18:47:16 ais523, wasn't in the last release anyway 18:47:22 no, it wasn't 18:47:31 it fixed itself incidentally in trunk, though 18:47:36 yeah 18:48:00 I learnt about the lex/yacc dependencies trick from the Automake doc 18:48:08 hm? 18:48:35 ok 18:48:40 how to generate the .c and .h in a way that's safe in a parallel make 18:48:48 given that lex and yacc output at the wrong filename 18:49:00 well it seems to be a command line parameter 18:49:02 to do so 18:49:20 AnMaster: ah, that doesn't work portably 18:49:23 so they did half the fix 18:49:36 ais523, obviously what was needed for gentoo toolchain 18:49:39 but the other half would work on Gentoo, presumably, who knows their own lex/yacc versions 18:49:46 but not on SunOS, for instance 18:49:53 ais523, yeah it is the gnu toolchain 18:50:01 so bison and flex 18:50:47 Pulling from "http://code.eso-std.org/c-intercal/"... 18:50:47 No remote changes to pull in! 18:50:53 * AnMaster waits for ais523 to push 18:50:58 -!- ENKI-][ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 18:51:18 I've pushed now 18:53:17 ais523, my computer with the collection of compilers is currently off. 18:53:22 since it runs 32-bit arch 18:53:28 ah, ok 18:53:32 * AnMaster test builds on his amd64 anyway 18:53:33 anyway, it's only half fixed 18:53:40 ais523, which one? 18:53:48 it should build fine 18:53:55 which one is only half-fixed? 18:53:55 but I think it still defaults to using gcc at runtime 18:53:56 -!- ab5tract has joined. 18:54:12 ah ok 18:54:19 ais523, that would be easy 18:54:22 something like: 18:54:24 anyway, I fixed the ar thing too 18:54:31 -DCC="$(CC)" 18:54:36 in AM_CFLAGS 18:54:38 or whatever it is 18:54:40 CPPFLAGS 18:54:42 yes 18:54:42 probably 18:54:46 except for stringising 18:54:48 which is a pain 18:54:54 ais523, ok 18:54:55 a sec 18:54:58 what if there are backslashes or double quotes in the compiler name? 18:55:01 -DCC="\"$(CC)\"" 18:55:02 there? 18:55:12 what if there are backslashes or double quotes in the compiler name? 18:55:14 ais523, ah , what about using the # operator then? 18:55:15 such as 18:55:22 yes, I was planning to do it using # 18:55:27 it's easy but not trivial 18:55:36 #define REALCC #CC 18:55:38 I think? 18:56:00 doesn't work 18:56:03 that defines it to #CC 18:56:05 *"CC" 18:56:10 ah a space? 18:56:12 or 18:56:15 but there is a trick to make it work, I just have to look it up 18:56:19 ais523, how is it done then? 18:56:19 it involves using more than one macro 18:56:23 ah 18:56:24 and passing things round as arguments 18:56:33 right 18:56:34 either that, or I could just use sed 18:56:39 heh 18:56:49 ais523, does that exist on all platforms you support? 18:57:05 ais523, also do you support MSVC? Considering you seem to support everything else 18:57:18 I haven't tested on MSVC yet 18:57:27 it doesn't interact well with a POSIX build process 18:57:30 -!- ENKI-][ has joined. 18:57:31 but the computers at Uni have it 18:57:33 -!- slereah has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 18:57:37 so I may make a batch file to use it correctly 18:57:46 the files themself should compile with MSVC just fine 18:59:15 * ais523 reboots their computer 18:59:18 I'll be back soon, though 19:04:08 ais523, ok 19:04:19 one thing: msvc would need a project file I think? 19:04:22 back 19:04:25 for visual studio crap 19:04:27 or? 19:04:32 not if you just used cl 19:04:36 to compile the files command-line style 19:04:36 hm 19:04:40 I generally use cl rather than the IDE 19:04:47 even when working on a visual-studio-only prokect 19:04:54 because I like the command line 19:05:01 oh and I know cfunge won't compile with that. Since it is C99 19:05:19 cygwin does apparently work if you try hard enough 19:05:27 I wouldn't be surprised 19:05:28 minus some extensions 19:05:34 it's just gcc with a different backend, after all 19:05:35 but I can't support it 19:05:54 ais523, well iirc some defines or such were missing 19:06:03 that I relied on for checking that a feature existed 19:06:20 that's generally a bad idea, autoconf is better at detecting features than looking for defines 19:06:30 I mean POSIX says a certain header should define a certain define with a certain value if a feature is supported 19:06:33 then I trust it 19:06:37 it is the standard 19:06:51 there might be something that isn't POSIX 19:06:54 but supports the feature anyway 19:07:08 if implementations support those features but don't define the defines then any user of that system should report a bug 19:07:29 ais523: i once attempted a flex lexxer for bf -> x86 asm (nasm syntax). it might still be around if you're interested. 19:07:30 no yacc involved though 19:07:34 _POSIX_MAPPED_FILES 19:07:44 with a value larger than 0 19:07:46 ais523, ^ 19:07:54 to indicate support for mmap() munmap() 19:07:55 ENKI-][: BF is one of the few languages simple enough that you can compile it with just lex 19:08:05 but given that BF lexers are so simple, you don't need lex really 19:08:06 lol 19:08:13 -!- oerjan has joined. 19:08:19 i've written esolangs that compiled with just lex 19:08:20 hi oerjan 19:08:29 MF - _POSIX_MAPPED_FILES - _SC_MAPPED_FILES 19:08:29 Shared memory is supported. The include file is present. The following functions are present: mmap(), msync(), mun- 19:08:29 map(). 19:08:32 ais523, ^ 19:08:34 but, i've written esolangs that used lex as an interpreter too 19:08:35 :P 19:08:39 and hi oerjan 19:08:44 the hard part is looping 19:08:49 ENKI-][, are you new here? 19:08:53 or just a new nick? 19:09:02 i haven't spoken in here much before 19:09:07 ah 19:09:08 hemskt mycket hej 19:09:27 ENKI-][: BF is one of the few languages simple enough that you can compile it with just lex 19:09:27 but given that BF lexers are so simple, you don't need lex really 19:09:28 um 19:09:34 I just wrote a recursive parser 19:09:36 when I did it 19:09:39 mm 19:09:56 using even flex seemed like overkill 19:09:59 oerjan, hah 19:10:04 i tend to just combine lex with copious flags and ignore yacc 19:10:16 if you do that, even more complex languages are doable 19:10:22 ENKI-][, seems like overkill, when all you need is a switch case really 19:10:27 * ais523 downloads a 4D flight simulator 19:10:30 * oerjan is teh retro 19:10:33 ais523, 4D? 19:10:35 you mean 19:10:39 not static? 19:10:40 though i'd actually quite like a better lexer 19:10:42 yep 19:10:45 I mean four-dimensional 19:10:50 ais523, then that includes all of them 19:10:58 AnMaster: meh. i prefer not to have to tokenize 100% 19:11:01 ais523, unless you hit the pause feature 19:11:07 AnMaster: four space dimensions 19:11:15 ENKI-][, err, you hardly need that for bf 19:11:17 AnMaster: but i think i rewrote that bf compiler in pure c first 19:11:28 ENKI-][, I build the tree, reading one symbol at a time 19:11:34 well I mmap() it all 19:11:36 AnMaster: i've written other stuff with flex compilers though. 19:11:40 then use that to read from 19:11:53 ais523, such a sim exists? 19:11:57 ENKI-][, well just overkill for bf 19:12:01 AnMaster: yes 19:12:05 ais523, link? 19:12:07 although I haven't used it yet 19:12:14 I'm reading the docs atm 19:12:18 ais523, link? 19:12:19 and the link is apt-get adanaxisgpl 19:12:31 which isn't particularly useful to someone not on Debian or a derivative 19:12:34 ais523, indeed 19:12:37 which I'm not 19:12:39 i also wrote the implementation of a network protocol as a flex lexxer, hooking into a kind of flattened list-of-lists 19:12:43 ais523, can't you query package manager for url? 19:12:45 should be possible to make an infinite-dimensional one. might be hard to find anything else in it though... 19:12:48 on gentoo that is dead easy 19:12:50 same on arch 19:12:53 but that was megas buggy 19:13:01 * ais523 tries 19:13:06 http://www.mushware.com/ 19:13:18 N.B. I haven't visited that site 19:13:26 but it's recorded as the homepage in the package 19:13:48 ais523, seems like there is a commercial one too 19:13:55 heh 19:14:05 for $18.95 19:14:59 ais523, also that says space shooter, not flight sim 19:15:02 very very different 19:15:03 even if nothing else, as long as you are alive, you perform the action of existing. 19:15:10 a flight sim most likely lack usable guns 19:15:17 ah, yes 19:15:23 misread it 19:15:23 since it simulates *flight* in *air* 19:15:29 not space shooting 19:15:33 a space shooter is a flight sim too, though, just with weapons 19:15:40 ais523, and in space 19:15:44 so no areodymaics 19:15:45 i think there are philosophical problems with considering existence an action or property 19:15:49 spelling.... 19:16:06 -!- ab5tract has quit. 19:16:07 oerjan, oh? 19:16:23 there was a flawed proof of God based on it, i think 19:16:43 ais523, a flight sim should have accurate aerodynamics. Many aircraft fighter games I have seen fail totally at that 19:16:56 ais523, while a flight sim does it properly 19:16:56 basically, God is by definition perfect, so has every positive property, including existence, QED. 19:17:15 oerjan, that doesn't work for other reasons 19:17:19 i don't exist. 19:17:26 EXTERNISM FTW 19:17:36 oerjan: that's flawed even without the flaw you mentioned 19:17:36 ? 19:17:37 :-) 19:17:49 externism is the opposite of nihilism 19:17:49 define X to be an odd perfect number that exists. 19:17:52 er 19:17:56 By definition, X exists 19:17:57 it's the opposite of solipism rather 19:17:59 so there is an odd perfect number 19:18:10 everything exists but the self 19:18:14 ais523: um that _was_ the flaw i mentioned 19:18:29 oerjan: ah, I thought you were talking about the flaw being that existence wasn't a property 19:18:39 ais523: yes 19:19:36 I think the flaw is that all you've proved is that if God exists, God exists 19:19:39 which is a tautology 19:19:46 ais523, in fact I can't find any gpl download for that project 19:19:52 the argument you give does not contradict the possibility that God does not exist 19:19:56 AnMaster: strange 19:20:06 you'd think they'd advertise their GPL download too, seeing as it exists 19:20:10 or maybe they wouldn't in the hope you'd pay 19:20:27 ais523, can't find it anyway, maybe they changed license 19:20:36 also it seems it is a one man company, says so on front page 19:20:39 so him it seems 19:20:48 ais523: well obviously there are several ways of looking at it, but some philosophers have considered that the flaw in the argument is considering existence a property 19:21:15 thomas aquinas has a similar 'proof' that was a bit better, but that will probably end up with something very un-godlike 19:21:21 it's something like 19:21:54 god is the best. if there's something better, it's not god. when you reach the end, it's god. the universe is finite, so there must be something that's best. 19:22:10 yeah that makes so much sense 19:22:24 but does that mean that if i value chocolate cakes over everything in the universe, the best chocolate cake i've ever had is god? 19:22:28 ais523, hm 19:22:29 http://www.mushware.com/viewtopic.php?p=352 19:22:51 * ENKI-][ watches lain 19:22:52 ah 19:22:53 "For Linux, a GPL version of this game is available, which lacks the commercially-sourced graphical and audio content present in the non-GPL version. Use the Change Listing box above and select Linux/GPL only to view it. 19:22:54 " 19:23:22 ais523, tell me if it is worth it 19:23:31 I haven't tried it yet 19:23:34 probably won't today 19:23:38 but I'll let you know later if you like 19:23:51 http://www.mushware.com/album_showpage.php?pic_id=8 19:23:54 screenshots look cool 19:48:46 -!- atrapado has joined. 19:48:57 -!- ab5tract has joined. 19:55:22 -!- pikhq has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 20:07:34 -!- ENKI-][ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 20:08:55 -!- ENKI-][ has joined. 20:19:27 -!- pikhq has joined. 21:07:06 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | looks cool, but light on th CPU. 21:11:24 -!- oerjan has quit ("Good night"). 21:20:32 -!- olsner has joined. 22:05:37 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection). 22:06:48 the newbies discovered the undergrad mailing list :( 22:06:55 ah, that sounds bad 22:06:58 is it moderated? 22:07:02 not at all 22:07:44 so far there's been random chit-chat, "who are you and why are you sending me email, I don't know you", people signing up to myspace, and BBC gardening newsletters 22:07:57 oh dear... 22:08:17 and of course the all-time favourite, "STOP SPAMMING THE MAILING LIST!" sent to the entire mailing list. 22:08:20 this is as bad as the day about 8 people posted SWORDFISH to what is normally a low-traffic mailing list 22:30:58 * GregorR enjoys his oh-so-exclusive graduate mailing list :P 22:32:49 -!- atrapado has quit ("Abandonando"). 23:16:37 that's sort of like the time that chinese and korean spammers and sourceforge ad partners discovered the development group for a project with only 3 members on google groups, and decided to try to outdo each other, three years after the project disbanded 23:17:17 then i had to look up the password and close the group 23:34:09 -!- ehird has changed nick to Barack_Obama. 23:34:23 -!- Barack_Obama has changed nick to ehird. 23:53:06 ouch 23:53:08 and night