< 1221092145 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1221097010 0 :megatron!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1221097023 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-199.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221098217 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You will rue this day! Well, go on ... start ruing! < 1221098583 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221098628 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is our duty to inform you that as of 7:35:05am UTC on September 10, 2008, the Earth has been destroyed." http://qntm.org/?board < 1221099267 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1221099271 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well aware. < 1221099279 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love Sam Hughes. :D < 1221099435 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same here < 1221100295 0 :ihope!n=Peggy@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221100616 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopeless < 1221100620 0 :psygnisfive!i=82f5c439@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a2db576e6d372e98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221100626 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiveless < 1221100640 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fivefull! < 1221100836 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fivefullnesslessly < 1221101227 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1221101854 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1221101955 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-82-181.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1221102096 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1221102613 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1221103252 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1221103266 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221104737 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | ok < 1221105464 0 :adu!n=ajr@pool-72-66-79-26.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221106996 0 :moozilla_!n=moozilla@207-118-40-70.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221107481 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1221108956 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklo! < 1221109814 0 :moozilla_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"- nbs-irc 2.37 - www.nbs-irc.net -" < 1221109830 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-40-70.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221109856 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221113614 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1221113843 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1221113880 0 :oklobol!n=nnscript@sparkgw.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1221115316 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :real a = 1.352; real i = 0.0177; while(i < a) { i += differential; } < 1221115788 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+++>+++++<[-->-<]>>+<[->++<]>: < 1221115950 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+++>+++++< {*3 5} [-->-<] {*0 3.5} >>+< {0 *3.5 1} [->++<] {0 *0 8} >: {0 0 *8 => 8} < 1221116018 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KHAN! < 1221116126 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :khan indeed < 1221116129 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna implement that < 1221118580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :khan? < 1221118620 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an indian term for irc channel < 1221118641 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq realized this is a channel, and, you know, he's indian < 1221118656 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No... < 1221118665 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no?!? < 1221118667 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am related to the only white man to go on the trail of tears. < 1221118668 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1221118672 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopol < 1221118986 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1221119360 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mirc owns, if i send messages with /msg and i have a channel window open, the message becomes part of that channel's log < 1221119378 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :logged passwords ftw < 1221119999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1221120000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1221121269 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1221121305 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@i-135.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1221122402 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1221122799 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1221124501 0 :LinuS!n=LinuS@net-93-146-68-115.t2.dsl.vodafone.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1221124514 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1221124964 0 :fizzie!i=fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1221125065 0 :oklobol!n=nnscript@sparkgw.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1221126337 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | SunOS was the first OS I ran it on < 1221126706 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1221126772 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221130073 0 :Slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-94-106.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221130655 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1221130768 0 :jix!n=jix@paed-gw.schule.bremen.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1221130897 0 :slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-94-106.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221131163 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Jesus loves you" < 1221131920 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1221134342 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.98.27 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221134650 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guyz StoryGen v2 beta test <3 http://91.105.98.27:4567/ < 1221134651 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it < 1221134929 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks the fragments are a little too short. < 1221134976 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, I couldn't get my initial sentence in. < 1221135056 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1221135355 0 :slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAPPY 9/11 < 1221135394 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that is intentional < 1221135401 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are meant to leave sentences unfinished < 1221135587 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are not required to be consistent with your own previous fragments, i hope :D < 1221135650 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1221135651 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1221135661 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in fact, it works better when more people do it < 1221135665 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because otherwise you can easily get continuity < 1221135668 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: are you doing it? < 1221135669 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, do it < 1221135671 0 :slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1221130716923.jpg < 1221135673 0 :slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1221135675 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a non-innuendo wau7 < 1221135676 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*way < 1221135683 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm doing my best to avoid it < 1221135700 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not gonna do the next one, lets' see if anyone else is doing them < 1221135759 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo Slereah < 1221135765 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://91.105.98.27:4567/ < 1221135769 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:| < 1221135778 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah: my question is whether the amish will out-breed the rest of them < 1221135805 0 :slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it, since the world will end :o < 1221135821 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although there is a similar norwegian sect with the breeding if not the low-tech) < 1221135896 0 :slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm all for breeding < 1221135902 0 :slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the act that leads to it < 1221135904 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1221135910 0 :slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, school tiem < 1221135990 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1221135993 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to tell all your friends. < 1221135996 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait you're a mathematician < 1221135999 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have any < 1221136001 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol i maed joek < 1221136004 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, true < 1221136085 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmm < 1221136089 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a hard one. < 1221136115 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1221136117 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i continued it < 1221136147 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was too tempting < 1221136169 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if disruptive < 1221137607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hm a mathematician? < 1221137635 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they say so < 1221137653 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: a published mathematician < 1221137653 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1221137669 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do you think he gets his terrible puns? < 1221137678 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he figures their punniness with mathematics. < 1221137711 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what puns? < 1221137738 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you don't know oerjan's terrible puns? < 1221137739 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtfo! < 1221137763 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I use irc logs for a reason < 1221137770 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a good memory for such stuff < 1221137793 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot is named after oerjan's terrible puns. < 1221137794 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: K={A=_;X=8;´{B=_;A}}; < 1221137802 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have a puny memory, then. < 1221137816 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait < 1221137937 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I suspect a pun there, though I'm unable to see what it is < 1221137939 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if it is < 1221138020 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very puny one < 1221138058 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i thought it was quite punny < 1221138105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever, bbl < 1221138127 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finns are a lot funnier than swedes. < 1221138144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well oerjan is neither < 1221138157 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway is actually sweden < 1221138161 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is actually finland) < 1221138202 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well since they are all of the type country *, they could be aliased without causing undefined behaviour ;P < 1221138206 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is actually iceland < 1221138213 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iceland is green < 1221138218 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the LHC saps particles from germany < 1221138223 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and greenland is icy < 1221138231 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: countries are not pointers to countries. < 1221138238 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iceland isn't a sign saying, "Iceland is over here ->" < 1221138297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, in that case they can't alias each other < 1221138315 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: of course not, if you use such a stupid language as c < 1221138320 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have thought it sapped particles from france and switzerland, since that's where it is < 1221138320 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as we all know, the universe is written in lisp < 1221138327 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, germany < 1221138367 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it is a multinational project < 1221138387 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :germany just killed jews < 1221138389 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no lhc for them < 1221138391 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it just saps their praticles < 1221138395 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :germany will just disappear, not the universe < 1221138440 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be sapping brain cells from the UK, anyhow < 1221138452 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in what way? < 1221138458 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am the wisest thinker < 1221138458 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :above god < 1221138464 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in the 4 days of harmonious nature rotation < 1221138475 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, per brain cell that may be true < 1221138484 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your brain cells are educated stupid < 1221138491 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, true < 1221138580 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have this urge to mention that the Vatican State has a density of 2 popes per square kilometer < 1221138594 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darwin si the pope < 1221138596 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darwinpope < 1221138599 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also eveyrone is darwin < 1221138601 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 1=10 < 1221138607 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore 1darwin=10darwin=100darwin=etc < 1221138609 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only in africa < 1221138613 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, the universe is made out of darwin < 1221138616 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the pope is anti-darwin < 1221138620 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus the pope is actually darwin < 1221138622 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in denial < 1221138626 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in africa. < 1221138643 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1221138647 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darwin, as a pope, cannot deny he is darwin < 1221138648 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1221138650 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he < 1221138652 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a paradox < 1221138654 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the universe < 1221138656 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes no sense < 1221138658 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you a bit young to be on whatever you're on right now? >_< < 1221138661 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of darwinpapalinfallability < 1221138667 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, we must conclude < 1221138668 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1221138680 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though darwin had no moustache infallability when he wrote about natural selection < 1221138682 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was a pope < 1221138686 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and therefore had papal infallability < 1221138687 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus < 1221138688 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we must all < 1221138689 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hail < 1221138690 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darwin < 1221138691 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1221138691 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1221138692 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darwinpope. < 1221138701 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i am actually 471 years old < 1221138724 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the infallibility was only declared some time in the 19th century, possibly after darwin made his theories < 1221138735 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darwin is retroactive < 1221138746 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :his universe runs on feather < 1221138788 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-033-132.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1221138803 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1870 it was < 1221138812 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was -4 BE < 1221138818 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before electricity < 1221138825 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :electricity was invented in 2BE < 1221138874 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1221138875 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am on darwin < 1221138877 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he died in 1882 < 1221138879 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inhaling his holy fumes < 1221138888 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he was only infallible for 12 years at most < 1221138894 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1221138899 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1221138899 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1221138900 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was infallable for 46 years and 5 mellenia < 1221138903 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221138903 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fff < 1221138904 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dg < 1221138914 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am declaring a Great Schism < 1221138937 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am declaring a great schemeism < 1221138940 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :((((((((((((((((((( < 1221138941 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] < 1221138944 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unbalanced1 < 1221138948 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa < 1221138989 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1221139092 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggest a compromise: maybe it is his holy fumes that are infallible < 1221139266 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1221139283 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there can only be holy war < 1221139297 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we must choose symbols < 1221139346 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i choose the holy fumes as my symbol < 1221139764 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+" < 1221140611 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i choose darwin < 1221140617 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, how does c handle inlined recursive functions < 1221140694 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is inlining part of the standard? < 1221140713 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1221140850 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah in C99 according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inline_function < 1221140886 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp time to test < 1221140898 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Many compilers can also inline expand some recursive functions; recursive macros are typically illegal. < 1221140917 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1221140979 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It just ignores my inline. < 1221140980 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gcc) < 1221141021 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: even though it compiled inline void forever(void) { forever(); } into a jmp... < 1221141025 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it WOULD be able to inline it then < 1221141154 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter is tail recursive, that might help < 1221141196 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you saying it doesn't < 1221141243 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.1.1/gcc/Inline.html < 1221141257 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Using -Winline will warn when a function marked inline could not be substituted, and will give the reason for the failure." < 1221141478 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"GCC does not inline any functions when not optimizing unless you specify the `always_inline' attribute for the function" < 1221141513 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah . < 1221141957 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Once upon a time there was an esoteric magician who spoke incomprehensibly. He wanted to make a magical language that was even worse. He called it... the Monstrous Money-Devourer ... of Death. And then he jumped into the big black lake of t-shirts. Cautiously approaching the washing machine, Jibbedybob appeared. Bob was there too. Jibbedybob was Bob's friend and Jibbedy was Jibbedybob's friend, They raped each other daily. Yum. It was delicious, like cake. T < 1221142034 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it doesn't count as innuendo if it's super explicit < 1221142047 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1221142050 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://91.105.98.27:4567/ new storii < 1221142215 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the? something went wrong < 1221142276 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's just the display that is broken < 1221142341 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my history clearly shows that i did _not_ duplicate fie when writing) < 1221142429 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh weird, it's a browser error < 1221142537 0 :Linus`!n=LinuS@net-93-146-253-37.t2.dsl.vodafone.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1221143168 0 :LinuS!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1221143444 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@i-69.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1221145278 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221145792 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : All Mister Jenkins could think was "How I like turnips, and the moving messages. In fact, when they moved they ploughed over the field like giant worms of doom ... sexy ones exploded in rage at the very sight of the hideous evil Mrr is a race of clones. goths too. like OO neckties and a thousand baloons, hai - who is a person - Niklas was his lovemaker. is a penis "sniper whore" JK I don't think so, sir. < 1221145812 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the crap < 1221145813 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1221146135 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"-> Bus" < 1221146187 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are two ways to run efunge." or "There are two ways of running efunge." < 1221146190 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is best tusho ? < 1221146204 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can run efunge in two ways:" < 1221146209 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1221146344 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of those, the latter < 1221146632 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ' called "single-quote" or "single quote" < 1221146678 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, anyway I got a command line wrapper kind of working now, not well tested < 1221146744 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter < 1221146773 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just 'apostrophe' :-) < 1221146797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Using 'efunge:start("path/to/befunge/program.bf").' (without the single quotes)" < 1221146809 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and actually, "quote" is informal if you want to be strict about it :-) < 1221146809 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it have to be double quotes in the inner bit < 1221146826 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well the issue is I need double quotes which should stay < 1221146848 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually just assume the reader has half a brain < 1221146865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah probably true in the case of a funge interpreter < 1221146872 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, certainly < 1221146889 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, however if i didn't use quotes most reads not familiar with erlang would miss the dot at the end < 1221146892 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is *needed* < 1221146907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't work without it < 1221146924 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say something about the dot and not the quotes, then :-) < 1221147018 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, does the mycology page only list funge-98 interpreters? < 1221147023 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1221147026 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since mycology can test funge-93 too < 1221147038 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, but that wasn't really the point < 1221147044 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1221147052 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most funge-93 interpreters get everything correct anyway < 1221147071 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :things that I think of that might vary are "# <" and division by zero < 1221147102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well I don't ask the user there, I do like 98, since I plan to change efunge into 98/108 at some point < 1221147130 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, and what do you mean with # < < 1221147136 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is there to get wrong there? < 1221147137 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it hit the < or not < 1221147145 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hits the < yes < 1221147152 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in many funge-98 interps it doesn't < 1221147162 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or many and many... at least two :-P < 1221147164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well Pressy thinks it does < 1221147170 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, of course < 1221147198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway befunge would work without #, since you can just use a space in the hole < 1221147216 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :question: how many instructions can you reduce Funge-98 too while still being turing complete? < 1221147231 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the funge-93 set is turing complete < 1221147235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd start with befunge-93 + infinite space then work down from there < 1221147243 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :` can be removed < 1221147249 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ can be removed < 1221147252 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#~&,. could be removed < 1221147264 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about # actually < 1221147270 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I think so: < 1221147273 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in befunge, I guess it could be < 1221147278 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in unefunge not < 1221147308 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah not in unefunge no < 1221147341 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in befunge, which I talked about, it is easy to remove #, you just use a space at the crossing < 1221147347 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and readjust lines as needed < 1221147357 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#v_ < 1221147374 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my most common use of # :-P < 1221147382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> v < 1221147382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v_ < 1221147388 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not easy to use < 1221147390 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but should work < 1221147391 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, or | < 1221147421 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what about : \ and $? < 1221147432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think : could be remove, replace with a p and two g < 1221147432 0 :slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND WHAT ABOUT NINE ELEVEN < 1221147444 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\, not sure < 1221147447 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be more interesting to remove p and g :-) < 1221147448 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$, well not sure either < 1221147456 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, then it wouldn't be funge really < 1221147466 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not :-P < 1221147481 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the whole point being self modifying < 1221147493 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to me < 1221147497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without that befunge93 would be easy to compile too < 1221147518 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wanted the smallest instruction set < 1221147523 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes < 1221147524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1221147528 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say, replace p and g with y < 1221147532 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? could be removed < 1221147536 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, y from 98? < 1221147544 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, y from 93 < 1221147547 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course from 98 :-P < 1221147559 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could remove * and / < 1221147574 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you need to keep either - or + < 1221147575 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, all you need is - < 1221147576 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- I think < 1221147582 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- is better < 1221147585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can't do negative numbers indeed < 1221147609 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could drop 2-9, I think you need 0 and 1 still < 1221147618 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, just 1 < 1221147621 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :11- is 0 < 1221147624 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah true < 1221147653 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have we still got... 1-y\$ < 1221147660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_1-^>[ < 1221147983 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would mean: < 1221147988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ] ^ < 1221147988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : >] < 1221147988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ] ] < 1221147994 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in all honesty I'm not sure we need all of _[], just w should be enough < 1221147995 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using > to show where code enters < 1221148011 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1-wy$ should be enough < 1221148017 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1221148029 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes pushing two things to decide turn direction < 1221148032 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes would work < 1221148044 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you get 'if' functionality for free < 1221148053 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1221148070 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what to call this < 1221148079 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :befuck or malfunge? < 1221148080 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1221148086 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tarfunge < 1221148090 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh ok < 1221148096 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tarbefunge in fact < 1221148102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't work in unefunge < 1221148111 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need # there at least < 1221148126 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for unefunge, 1-_y$; < 1221148127 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect you may also need x, but I can't prove that < 1221148134 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-74-95.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221148135 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, hm.... < 1221148137 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't just ; enough < 1221148141 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1221148145 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no unefunge expert < 1221148149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really never interested me < 1221148159 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never really* < 1221148167 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, alternately, 1-_y$x < 1221148170 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x can do what # does < 1221148184 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just much more painfully < 1221148196 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well x can do a lot more too < 1221148209 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like jump based on address on stack, not only fixed jump < 1221148220 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1221148248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I suggest modifying y to be a pure pick instruction in such a case, since the other bits are hardly useful < 1221148255 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in tarfunge < 1221148270 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well of course if we're going to start modifying stuff < 1221148281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok lets keep it then < 1221148283 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if we do that we should be able to get by with even less instructions < 1221148297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, sure, one instruction is enough iirc? < 1221148300 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or? < 1221148304 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1221148312 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably yes < 1221148325 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since we can define an infinite number of behaviours for it :-P < 1221148326 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/OISC < 1221148331 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if x is in an odd-numbered column then..." < 1221148364 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"subtract and branch unless positive" in OISC, said to be turing complete... < 1221148388 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if anything can compile to that instruction < 1221148400 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could then translate it to asm and see how fast stuff runs ;-) < 1221148418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1221148429 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compile C to that, for instance < 1221148429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I bet x86 got something close ;) < 1221148462 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://eigenratios.blogspot.com/2006/09/mark-ii-oisc-self-interpreter.html < 1221148464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1221148491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, anyway I don't think you can compile C easily, would be restricted, since C got stuff like IO and so < 1221148515 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1221148524 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyhoo, food -> < 1221148530 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One could do a standalone implementation. < 1221149369 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1221149899 0 :tusho_!n=tusho@91.105.85.60 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221150166 0 :tusho_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1221150314 0 :tusho_!n=tusho@91.105.85.60 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221150334 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1221150339 0 :tusho_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :tusho < 1221150339 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :tusho_ < 1221150344 0 :tusho_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :???????????? < 1221150396 0 :tusho_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1221150413 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.85.60 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221150457 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1221150468 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.85.60 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221150490 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1221150490 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-24-48.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1221150505 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.85.60 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221150562 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR Your host is trying to (re)connect too fast -- throttled < 1221150563 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: D: D: D: D: D: < 1221150667 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1221150700 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.85.60 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221150722 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1221150734 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.85.60 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221151247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, well fix your connection then! < 1221151253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hi tusho < 1221151259 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1221151259 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing to do with my connection. < 1221151272 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, stop quitting your client all the time then < 1221151288 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wiped all my settings randomly and I had to test them, so shut up. < 1221151350 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, sucky client that doe that < 1221151351 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does* < 1221151381 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, it was my fault < 1221151392 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I killed it while it was writing to the prefs or something < 1221151393 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you could just restore from the daily backup of your home dir < 1221151395 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1221151404 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i can't afford a drive for backups < 1221151450 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, tapes aren't that expensive < 1221151458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you got no tape drive, true < 1221151460 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: enjoy your 1970 < 1221151460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see the issue < 1221151478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, tapes last longer than cds or harddrives certainly < 1221151490 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hds last long enough for me to care about < 1221151785 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, butbut.. they're affected by magnets and stuff. That scares me, tbh < 1221151926 0 :slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1221151975 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, so are harddrives < 1221151979 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed, cds aren't < 1221151988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but cds doesn't last very long < 1221151996 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can get scratched easily < 1221152006 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I prefer tapes < 1221152016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are way more durable < 1221152073 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any way to shield tapes? < 1221152092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well same way as you shield against any EMP I assume < 1221152165 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it worth using tape to backup a home system < 1221152243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm depends < 1221152284 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, I had the luck of finding a tape drive cheaply, local school was throwing out old equipment, got it for probably 1/10 of what it was really worth < 1221152301 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's SCSI btw :) < 1221152312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :modern ones use firewire iirc < 1221152335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1221153533 0 :Slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-36-117.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221154847 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1221155094 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1221156100 0 :slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-36-117.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221156662 0 :slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1221156714 0 :Slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-36-117.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221157746 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1221157949 0 :Slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-36-117.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221157952 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:| < 1221159332 0 :jix!n=jix@pD955F86A.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221159333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, my FING is now updated, however I will probably not make a release this weekend < 1221159343 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you actually plan to update mycology results page < 1221159357 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, apart from FING, are there other changes? < 1221159367 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I can think of < 1221159416 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2008–09–10 Mycology updates" on your website < 1221159419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what was changed? < 1221159443 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a changelog in the readme.txt, you know < 1221159517 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well it contradicts your web page < 1221159519 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" * Mycology update, some bugfixes." < 1221159524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2008-09-10 - Made the check for wraparound with non-cardinal delta a bit < 1221159524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : stricter (instead of a delta of (12,0) it uses (13,2)). < 1221159537 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the 2008-09-06 release is not mentioned on the website < 1221159542 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's irrelevant and a bugfix < 1221159548 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there never was a 2008-09-06 release < 1221159558 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2008-09-06 - Fixed a misspelled error message in mycouser.b98 for < 1221159559 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Befunge-93 interpreters. < 1221159559 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : - Fixed a bug in 2k6 testing that led to an infinite loop. < 1221159561 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :readme.txt < 1221159561 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just when I made the changes < 1221159565 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't release it < 1221159565 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1221159571 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@i-130.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1221159638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, have you seen that Mike made even more fingerprints < 1221159644 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOBJ.. no clue what it is < 1221159645 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed, yes < 1221159652 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :objects? < 1221159652 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has specs < 1221159656 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum < 1221159657 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, something like that < 1221159660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOP in funge!? < 1221159662 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't look closely < 1221159663 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me it isn't < 1221159677 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that, I only glanced at it < 1221159679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Object Oriented extension" < 1221159680 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my < 1221159687 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, do you plan to implement it? < 1221159697 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what it contains, like said < 1221159701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FPRT huh < 1221159707 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and right now I really don't care either :-P < 1221159709 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a printf wrapper it seems < 1221159724 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that might almost be useful < 1221159757 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if he specified it either completely uselessly or so strictly that it's a pain to implement < 1221159761 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the former < 1221159765 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, btw if the mycology results page will be updated to include cfunge (as run on linux, as you said yourself) before the end of the weekend, a release will be made during Saturday, if it won't be updated, there will be no release < 1221159800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, yeah he haven't yet learnt the balance < 1221159811 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster is pioneering "software release by ransom" < 1221159817 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1221159820 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, well someone has to be the first < 1221159821 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1221159828 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Update the page by the weekend OR THE RELEASE GETS IT" < 1221159830 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that I really don't care whether he releases or not :-P < 1221159848 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, just I like to include more bug fixes before next release < 1221159857 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you actually plan to update that page < 1221159860 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, sure < 1221159861 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not ransom < 1221159885 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, or I will claim to be "mycology 2008-09-10 conforming" < 1221159886 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1221159899 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :conformat? < 1221159900 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1221159902 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION claims to be 10 feet tall < 1221159905 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dun dun DUN < 1221159911 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I pass without any BAD < 1221159914 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that version < 1221159915 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: you are pretty big!! < 1221159924 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i pass as 10 feet tall too < 1221159925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, what is it in meters? < 1221159931 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 10 feet in meters = 10 feet < 1221159937 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 feet is over 2 metres < 1221159944 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: actually 3.04800 meters. < 1221159948 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bit over or under 3 metres < 1221159950 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION claims to have worked that out in my head < 1221159956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I seen a video of you < 1221159961 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so stop lying < 1221159964 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just remember that one foot is around 30 cm < 1221159965 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i was crouching, you moron < 1221159978 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, didn't look like that < 1221159985 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's what i want you to think < 1221159995 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ICAL" 0x4943414c Some Intercal-like functions (RCS) < 1221159996 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrrm < 1221160004 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ARRY 0x41525259 Arrays (RCS) < 1221160014 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if ais has an opinion on that ICAL, it's probably all wrong ;-) < 1221160021 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARRY? sigh... < 1221160024 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as if EMEM wasn't bad enough < 1221160031 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it even have anything useful < 1221160056 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: hi deewiant i am going to speck a fignerpting on irc ok??? then i will put it on the web, and you will implement it < 1221160058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so lets see what ones are new, ARRY, BOOL, FOBJ, FPRT, ICAL, IMTH, RAND, SORT, < 1221160060 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1221160063 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has been busy < 1221160071 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: ,,,,,,,,,,, < 1221160078 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ok,,,,,,here it is < 1221160092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"BOOL" 0x424F4F4C < 1221160092 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"BF": R ( c -- ) run brainfuck code < 1221160093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A (a b -- r) And < 1221160093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :N (a -- r) Not < 1221160093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O (a b -- r) Or < 1221160093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X (a b -- r) Xor < 1221160093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1221160101 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: hehehhehehehhee... < 1221160108 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: "c"? < 1221160109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is plain idiotic, I mean those are not hard in pure befunge < 1221160113 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a few w < 1221160125 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: its a mystery,,ehehehehe.... it is the brainfuck code....... < 1221160132 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X is idiotic < 1221160140 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, in FOBJ: "I 0gnirts referes to the funge file containing the code for the object" < 1221160143 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds *BAD* < 1221160145 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the others, maybe < 1221160152 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*BAD*? < 1221160160 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: hello,,,,,,,how goes the implement < 1221160168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well yes, FOBJ seems pretty messed up < 1221160176 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: how's that < 1221160189 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, or the spec may be < 1221160202 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what sense < 1221160213 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Funge-space for objects is in Trefunge mode." <-- nice way to lock out for example CCBI and cfunge < 1221160222 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and efunge won't do tre-funge either < 1221160229 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CCBI 2 will do Trefunge :-) < 1221160231 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't blame him for your interp inferiorities < 1221160235 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: will it do Nfunge < 1221160238 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1221160247 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: will it do nfunge if i write a patc < 1221160248 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1221160261 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1221160268 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, depends on the size of the patch ;-) < 1221160272 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, also I fail to see how these are object orientated really, where is the inheritance... < 1221160273 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd have to be pretty big :-P < 1221160274 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :classes? < 1221160282 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: it'd be some commits < 1221160282 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1221160290 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: object orientation!=classes < 1221160292 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or inheritance < 1221160295 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably prototypical < 1221160315 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it lets you fondle an existing object, and clone an object, then it's prototypical < 1221160322 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks a lot like namespaces + functions only, actually < 1221160323 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: http://www.rcfunge98.com/rcfunge2_manual.html#FOBJ < 1221160337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rcfunge98.com/rcsfingers.html#IMTH <-- now that is kind of stupid too, since the functionality is either simple in pure funge, (E for example), or available in other fingerprints < 1221160338 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: that's retarded < 1221160345 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: no shit? < 1221160358 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ok forget BF i am writing a better fingerprint < 1221160362 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :called MKRL (Mike Riley) < 1221160368 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I like that the specs talk about "message handlers" without saying at all what they are < 1221160375 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or how M works < 1221160383 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or right < 1221160397 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, never mind < 1221160404 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just obtusely written :-P < 1221160408 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well I won't implement any if these new ones I think. Yes I will probably do MVRS in efunge < 1221160412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apart from that... < 1221160426 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably won't implement anything completely pointless < 1221160428 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as EMEM < 1221160435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I didn't do EMEM either < 1221160454 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh, haha < 1221160456 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Formats are printf style " < 1221160468 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :question < 1221160468 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's certainly descriptive < 1221160474 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are the 0x... things so long? < 1221160478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it seems pretty clear, except most doesn't make sense for funge < 1221160481 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MKRY = 0x4A27F51 < 1221160488 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but his are longer < 1221160492 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, for example, %zu would make no sense in funge < 1221160504 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: erm, "printf style" doesn't really say anything < 1221160514 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I assume C printf? < 1221160515 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C/C++/Java/D/Haskell/other printf? which version? < 1221160525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, obviously C is the default ;P < 1221160528 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: no they aren't < 1221160537 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x33445350 < 1221160537 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: and it's "style" anyway, could use D writef as well :-P < 1221160540 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x4A27F51 < 1221160542 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1221160543 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are right < 1221160544 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1221160549 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, hm? < 1221160551 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: and that can't be right < 1221160565 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: 0x4A27F51 is right... < 1221160569 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MKRY = 0x4d4b5259 < 1221160572 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1221160573 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1221160574 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid me < 1221160598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, you wouldn't have said that if I pointed out the error :P < 1221160604 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i.e. it doesn't specify that it has to work like printf, only in the style of printf :-P < 1221160605 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1221160606 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would have < 1221160618 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ah I see the issue yes < 1221160639 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: which would allow pretty much anything, actually. :-P < 1221160649 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, however I suspect trying that philosophical approach would make Mike ignore you ;P < 1221160653 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ICAL looks amusing < 1221160663 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARRY, hmm < 1221160672 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, you or I should get ais to take a look at ICAL < 1221160679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before you implement it < 1221160679 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the single dimension stuff of ARRY is just a poorer form of JSTR < 1221160683 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1221160707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Addresses used by this extension are absolute, the storage offset does NOT apply to these functions." < 1221160708 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1221160710 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: haha, implement ARRY so that ABCDEF reflect and G pushes 0 < 1221160736 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well certainly allowed as it seems, but no I won't < 1221160741 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Negative array indexes are allowed " < 1221160744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't implement any of these new ones < 1221160745 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what do they do I wonder? < 1221160753 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I assume same as in C < 1221160758 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: segfault? :-P < 1221160758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :access below array base < 1221160775 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, may not be segfault, not if the system is running in a non-protected environment < 1221160778 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fairly sure that's implementation-defined in C < 1221160779 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like. say, DOS < 1221160786 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes it is I think < 1221160793 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1221160800 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, it's allowed to be implementation-defined? ;-) < 1221160807 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, actually, while that wasn't what I meant, it seems correct < 1221160814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant that it is basically pointer access < 1221160844 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: AnMaster: ok I made my first fingerprint < 1221160845 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a[x] == *(&a + x) (not always and not exactly, but you get my point) < 1221160845 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmh, BOOL/IMTH/FIXP overlap a lot :-/ < 1221160846 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MKRY" < 1221160849 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tusho.net/mkry/ < 1221160854 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please review & suggest & implement < 1221160865 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1221160886 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, badly defined ;P < 1221160897 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ehhehehehehehehehehehehehhe............ < 1221160898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no I won't implement it < 1221160900 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: why 0gnirts, pushing ",,,,...." would require a pop < 1221160900 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1221160907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh < 1221160913 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C¢D < 1221160915 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1221160915 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: eehhehe,,,not sure.... < 1221160917 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/¢/$/ < 1221160921 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaa < 1221160923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is funny < 1221160925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I get it < 1221160926 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1221160945 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I may actually implement that, probably not, but I don't rule out the possibility < 1221160952 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1221160952 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ah what should i use intsead < 1221160956 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*instead < 1221160957 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAND is poorly defined, does it use a generator of its own or not < 1221160977 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well as I said above, IMTH is useless, since there are other fingerprints to do those things, or they are easy in pure funge < 1221160983 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes I agree about RAND < 1221160984 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: well, just ( -- chars...) or something < 1221160992 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than that RAND can be handy < 1221161003 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since if you need a value ? is a bit painful < 1221161015 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok MKRY updated < 1221161017 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tusho.net/mkry/ < 1221161027 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, RAND doesn't really say anything about the qualities of the generator < 1221161028 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, um "All pushes from 3 to 15." < 1221161031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it changed < 1221161035 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no shit < 1221161041 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it changed!! < 1221161047 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I just noticed it < 1221161050 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i know, crazy, i meant to update it without changing it < 1221161053 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, and yes I love this parody :D < 1221161066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, just that 3..15 range changed < 1221161069 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from something else < 1221161069 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is pseudorandom okay for RAND or not? doesn't say. do values need to be evenly distributed? doesn't say. < 1221161071 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure < 1221161077 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no < 1221161079 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0gnirts -> c ... < 1221161079 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely he uses rand()%n < 1221161086 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that ECED works < 1221161104 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well I'd say you should select by fair dice roll then hard code a lookup table < 1221161112 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :return 4; < 1221161119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ah you know :D < 1221161128 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, SORT < 1221161134 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1221161143 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SORT is badly defined I'd say < 1221161147 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Va Vld Vbd w n < 1221161149 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hell?! < 1221161150 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what ridiculous thing to write next < 1221161150 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sort block in funge-space" < 1221161161 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: will you implement mkry < 1221161163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, indeed, I got no idea what those vectors mean < 1221161163 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too, but wth are those arguments < 1221161164 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: nope < 1221161170 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: if i provide a file? < 1221161183 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, probably not, but you could try implement it using mini-funge < 1221161192 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think efunge may handle that < 1221161192 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I can provide you a file too! See http://www.google.com/index.html < 1221161199 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: if i provide an implementation file < 1221161200 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1221161202 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will implement dynafing from !Befugne then < 1221161208 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: nah :-P < 1221161226 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: why not, it'd be a cp :P < 1221161244 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite < 1221161257 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: hm? < 1221161272 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, anyway, I still plan my SOCK replacement suite, but I didn't receive any comments on it from you, I did send the mail to you < 1221161293 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the output of ccbi -p < 1221161303 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i'd provide a patch < 1221161303 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1221161304 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yeah, which means I don't have anything meaningful to say :-P < 1221161310 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: so it's not just a cp ;-) < 1221161315 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ok, cp && patch < 1221161318 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that acceptable? :P < 1221161327 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :&& merge && headbash < 1221161333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, but do you like the idea or not? < 1221161334 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in any case, nah. < 1221161341 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i'll fork ccbi if you don't < 1221161341 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1221161342 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: sure, why not < 1221161352 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, and I would like some input on the "auto handler" for "don't care what ip version" < 1221161357 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: if I were you I'd just do the mini-funge impl :-P < 1221161370 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i don't know funge. < 1221161405 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider learning! < 1221161409 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. < 1221161427 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ? < 1221161428 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: < 1221161429 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "FRTH" 0x46525448 Some common forth [sic] commands < 1221161430 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the [sic] < 1221161444 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not how forth is spelled < 1221161455 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: thats how the language name is spelled... < 1221161463 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's Forth < 1221161471 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: oh. < 1221161473 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I said in the mail, the idea of an application in funge being able to use a generic interface for ipv4 and ipv6 < 1221161475 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm case-insensitive < 1221161480 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be. :-P < 1221161483 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1221161496 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use a case-insensitive filesystem and such. < 1221161503 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and type in lowercase on irc < 1221161518 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: < 1221161519 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse.." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse.." < 1221161528 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1221161536 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: and those sentences are such common, everday occurences < 1221161541 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, i am a fan of innuendo. < 1221161557 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a reason for not always being case-insensitive < 1221161577 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: so what input do you want on that < 1221161600 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what design would be good for that, yet allow separate ipv6 and ipv4 for those who wanted? < 1221161602 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i am always, always case-insensitive < 1221161604 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in everything < 1221161622 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I'm pretty much lost there < 1221161626 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would mean hostname based < 1221161657 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know very much about network programming so I'm not exactly an authority on the topic < 1221161662 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCKI sounds fine to me, shrug < 1221161667 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should there be a SCKI for IPv4/6 with a flag for "don't care, ipv4, ipv6" < 1221161671 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1221161672 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1221161683 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or would it be possible to tag a socket with a flag < 1221161693 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1221161697 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then just use the same interface always < 1221161716 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the shared parts would have the same interface < 1221161719 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you create a socket, specify a flag, like the current SOCK does, for whether it's IPv4/IPv6 < 1221161730 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/don't care < 1221161738 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes makes sense in a SCKI part < 1221161745 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since we need SCKU for unix sockets < 1221161770 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so one for core (NSCK), then SCKI for TCP/UDP + IP, and SCKU for unix sockets < 1221161789 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, unix sockets mess everything up :-P < 1221161805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, to make stuff more portable it is separate < 1221161813 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are more ones < 1221161820 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they didn't exist, it would be much simpler :-) < 1221161828 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STCP or whatever the name is < 1221161841 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well you could choose not to implement SCKU < 1221161851 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is another good part < 1221161861 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should leave it open anyway < 1221161879 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe add an instruction to query whether a certain flag combination (TCP/IPv4 for instance) is supported < 1221161889 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: fingerprints/tusho/mkry.d GOOOOOOO < 1221161891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rcfunge98.com/dyfp.f98 <-- hm can't find any details for that fingerprint? < 1221161895 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you know that creating a socket fails for that reason and not just randomly < 1221161917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well ok it would be part of SCKI < 1221161956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the core could have an instruction to list supported address family fingerprints < 1221162004 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1221162017 0 :Slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-36-117.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221162017 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your fingerprint mechanism is confusing kekekekekekekke ^________^ < 1221162019 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, implement it in dynafing < 1221162022 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no < 1221162031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, ah, you don't support "kekekekekekekke" in MKRY! < 1221162045 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe that should be in TUSH? < 1221162048 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it is MKRY < 1221162053 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not SCFT < 1221162057 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCFT? < 1221162070 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1221162079 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would SCFT stand for < 1221162175 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCience FicTion? < 1221162183 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1221162280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I just got a good idea for a fingerprint, that is *truely* non-portable < 1221162292 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 'Spec: Be non-portable.' < 1221162308 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERLANG (cells have to be larger than 32-bit, probably BIGNUM to fit the name) < 1221162318 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :E evaluate 0"gnirts" as erlang < 1221162321 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1221162329 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: total ripoff of my BF < 1221162331 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course I won't implement such a thing in efunge < 1221162338 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just won't < 1221162354 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, point it is would require the interpreter to be written in erlang < 1221162359 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1221162360 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it can't exec validly < 1221162360 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it wouldn't < 1221162361 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1221162364 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the specs say so < 1221162367 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just run an erlang process in the background < 1221162375 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and send off the string < 1221162393 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I won't finish the spec < 1221162397 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor will I implement it < 1221162403 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's still portable < 1221162405 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even trivial < 1221162418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, no, since it have to evaluate within the context of the interpreter < 1221162429 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the spec does not say that < 1221162431 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly affecting interpreter internals < 1221162438 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's easy too < 1221162439 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, they do, but I wasn't finished with them < 1221162443 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write an interp bridge in erlang < 1221162449 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just sends it back to your other-lang interp < 1221162453 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and changes the interp there < 1221162463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, could be hard if it is in C or C++ or whatever < 1221162473 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not too hard. < 1221162489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I won't implement it < 1221162490 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever < 1221162497 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRR < 1221162504 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean EVAR < 1221162505 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION points a gun at AnMaster's head < 1221162511 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :implement it or BANG. < 1221162511 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a fingerprint < 1221162527 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION implements BANG to reflect on everything < 1221162528 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1221162535 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :implement it or i will shoot you. < 1221162543 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, sorry since BANG will reflect < 1221162552 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would just bounce and hit yourself < 1221162554 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't use BANG < 1221162578 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, anyway no I won't ever implement it < 1221162591 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even if i would kill you if you didn't? < 1221162618 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be an extremely silly action of you < 1221162634 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: but if i did? < 1221162648 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nop < 1221162703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I haven't worked out how fingerprints should work in efunge yet < 1221162717 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: so you value not implementing ERLANG over your life < 1221162961 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :futtbuck < 1221162988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if ais will be here tomorrow < 1221163012 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm going to ignore you when you get too silly < 1221163027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1221163037 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't care < 1221163039 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm having fun < 1221163595 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-028-216.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1221163721 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1221163841 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-028-216.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1221164630 0 :oklobol!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1221164902 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1221165982 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1221166044 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, i resemble that glob < 1221166056 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ew. < 1221167184 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1221167608 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1221167628 0 :Slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-36-117.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221167719 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then a miracle happens < 1221167843 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arcanux.org/lambdacats/impossible.jpg < 1221168951 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1221169537 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | There are probably many. < 1221169593 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There can be only one! < 1221169747 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThereCanBeOnlyOne (warning: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife) < 1221169816 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1221170843 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1221171019 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is there a TerriblePun trope on tehre < 1221171451 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not exactly, but try http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HurricaneOfPuns < 1221171479 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1221171479 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/08.09.10 < 1221171483 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slowest day in an awful long while < 1221171488 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a tiny log < 1221171589 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all < 1221171599 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was because the earth was destroyed < 1221171676 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1221171680 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by darwin < 1221172111 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally there was a 16 year old Indian girl who committed suicide when she heard about the LHC fears. I think she might be a good candidate for the Darwin award. < 1221172145 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only if the earth isn't destroyed :o < 1221172162 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, true < 1221172195 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a zombeeeeeeeeeee < 1221172197 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zombieeeeeeee < 1221172219 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do we want? < 1221172223 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRAIN! < 1221172228 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When do we want it? < 1221172229 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRAIN! < 1221172292 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eats Slereah  < 1221172293 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brains < 1221172316 0 :fungot!n=fungot@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1221172322 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fizzie < 1221172323 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-82-181.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1221172330 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello. < 1221172337 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I has no brains :(((( < 1221172338 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fungot < 1221172339 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i should also buy another notebook a 1,3 kg lightweight p3 samsung, 1 cm thick, 12" disp, complete with a tent rather than a primitive. < 1221172344 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RUN AWAY < 1221172345 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: Shut up: You are dead. You cannot talk. < 1221172354 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, a laptop with a tent. < 1221172366 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But no primitives. < 1221172369 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it run...? < 1221172378 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: you ate only his brain, no vital organs < 1221172393 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no < 1221172396 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'eats Slereah' < 1221172412 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty clear < 1221172415 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that was just zombie grammar < 1221172440 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1221172444 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a zombuman < 1221172528 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternative theory: Slereah is speaking from inside your stomach < 1221172593 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you a markov bot? < 1221172594 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's the year 2006 < 1221172604 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, a time traveller < 1221172624 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, we're not in some demented vore slashfiction < 1221172632 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah is thoroughly dead and cannot speak. < 1221172642 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, I *hope* we're not in some demented vore slashfiction...) < 1221172649 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :third try: he's a ghost < 1221172662 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean if there are zombies there can be ghosts < 1221172665 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho : Do you have a boner < 1221172671 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: No, and you still cannot speak. < 1221172676 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have not risen from the dead yet. < 1221172685 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: Rise and shine < 1221172700 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if he was a ghost then he wouldn't respond to pings < 1221172726 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, true < 1221172985 0 :Linus`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1221173900 0 :megatron!n=moozilla@207-118-42-188.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221173920 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1221175971 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric