00:00:17 <psygnisfive> we need to make a language thats highly parallel in its primitives
00:00:33 <oklopol> everything is executed at the same time INFINITE TIMES
00:00:52 <psygnisfive> haskell i dont like because its very recursive in its parallelism
00:00:56 <oklopol> ALSO ALL COMBINATIONS OF ALL OPERATIONS ARE EXECUTED IN PARALLEL GARAGHAHAHGRAREDS
00:02:16 <psygnisfive> thats not really parallelizable! you've got all sorts of crazy recursions that need to be distributed, thats just crazy talk there
00:02:33 <tusho> psygnisfive: that map function...
00:02:35 <oklopol> now look at map in Ef: (f .l){\x:l => ?x = f x}
00:02:35 <tusho> what is its type...
00:02:47 <tusho> (a -> b) -> [a] -> [b]
00:03:23 <oklopol> ef is one of my awesomest languages
00:04:04 <tusho> erlang is explicitly parallel psygnisfive
00:04:35 <oklopol> in erlang you just do it with existential quantification and you can parallelize it all mwahaha!!!
00:04:35 <psygnisfive> i just wanna experiment with a language that doesn't define things in such a way that parallelism has to be explicit
00:04:54 <psygnisfive> nor do collections have to be accessed by defining recursions
00:06:06 <oklopol> i'm gonna do some sleeping now.
00:06:38 <oklopol> WHEN YOU FAIL IT'S TIME TO BAIL
00:08:44 <oklopol> so, an episode of awesome south park, or sleep?
00:11:06 <oklopol> 02:10… +oklopol: %choice jax sleep
00:11:17 <oklopol> jax is finnish for episode ofc
00:11:35 <psygnisfive> sure its not finnish for masturbate on camera?
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00:13:05 <psygnisfive> im pretty sure it means "masturbate on camera"
00:19:04 <psygnisfive> mah bumper sticker dont stick to mah bumper
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07:45:00 <lament> ok, laugh when I say shovel
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18:06:36 <tusho> I hate having to write addons for php software
18:06:41 <tusho> foo(bar)[N] is invalid in php
18:06:48 <ais523> why do you have to write an addon for php software?
18:07:00 <tusho> ais523: So that the PHP software gains the features I want? :P
18:07:14 <tusho> at least this app is well-written as php stuff goes
18:07:33 <oklopol> a fairly arbitrary restriction considering you can make any kinds of long expressions usually, but have to do that with a temp var
18:08:04 <ais523> probably it can't figure out the data type of foo(bar) until it's called, so can't tell whether it can be subscripted
18:08:33 <oklopol> ais523: that sounds unlikely
18:08:41 <tusho> ais523: it's actually the syntax
18:08:46 <tusho> it's defined as var '[' expr ']'
18:09:01 <tusho> it's just because the php devs don't know shit about programming :)
18:09:21 <ais523> well, INTERCAL has something similar
18:09:29 <ais523> but that's not a problem because no expression returns an array value
18:09:33 <ais523> they're second-class in INTERCAL
18:10:00 <oklopol> yeah but this is something php definitely should allow as it everything is first-class
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20:10:54 <ais523> likely there will be sometime
20:11:08 <ais523> I've spent a day or so reading the source code to Nethack
20:15:38 <tusho> what do you all think of this domain pun:
20:16:10 <tusho> desrever.su (backwards: 'us.reversed')
20:16:40 <tusho> ais523: soviet union
20:16:42 <tusho> you can still register it...
20:16:52 <tusho> 600 rub/year, so £12/year
20:17:04 * tusho is certainly considering it for the thing he's setting up
20:17:37 <tusho> i mean, as well as the clever domain pun
20:17:37 <pikhq> Or about $1,000/year? :p
20:17:44 <tusho> i can say that I own a domain from the soviet union
20:17:53 <tusho> which is pretty cool right :P
20:18:13 <tusho> Of course, if anyone else provides a better pun I might go for it.
20:18:19 <tusho> but desrever.su is also quite nice to _type_
20:18:28 <tusho> 'Attention! To execute orders for registration of second level domain names in RU and SU domains, written contract must be signed. '
20:19:09 <tusho> (second time today)
20:19:44 <psygnisfive> in soviet russia, domain name request executes YOU!"
20:20:00 <tusho> ais523: do you think the domain pun is worth a signed bloody contract
20:20:10 <tusho> £12/year, sure. written contract? no.
20:20:23 <tusho> psygnisfive: that's where YOU come into play!!!!!!111
20:20:26 <tusho> where YOU = #esoteric
20:21:02 <tusho> involving 'us' or 'ourselves' would be nice
20:24:20 <ais523> httpcolonslashslashhttpcolonslashslashhttpcolonslashslashdotdotdotdotcom.com
20:24:38 <ais523> although maybe the first dotdotdot should be ellipsis
20:24:49 <ais523> change the "com" to taste
20:24:50 <tusho> http://httpcolonslashslashslashdotdotorg.org
20:27:17 <tusho> psygnisfive: the BBC says slash
20:27:17 <ais523> no, should be slash because that's what Slashdot uses
20:29:55 <psygnisfive> in the middle ages, / was like , and // was like -
20:30:14 <psygnisfive> you ever wonder what orthography will be like in the distant future?
20:31:54 <Deewiant> psygnisfive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash_(punctuation)
20:32:25 <Deewiant> a slash, by itself, refers specifically to /
20:32:49 <Deewiant> calling it a forward slash is redundant
20:33:44 <tusho> 'SHUT UP YOU AND YOUR TRUTH'
20:35:23 <psygnisfive> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_%28punctuation%29
20:35:32 <psygnisfive> theres a big blank space displaying... a space character
20:36:23 <Deewiant> well, if your font displays the space character as a smiley face
20:36:40 <psygnisfive> oh, well yes, if you're using a retarded font then you're correct ofcourse
20:38:28 <ais523> are you trolling or trying to make a joke, or something?
20:39:00 <ihope> psygnisfive: when you say -, do you mean dash?
20:44:48 <psygnisfive> my character palette displays the hyphen-minus next to +
20:45:24 <Deewiant> yes, because it displays it in numerical order by codepoint, probably
20:45:38 <psygnisfive> no, i was looking at it by character type and junk
20:45:54 <Deewiant> maybe it sorts like that anyway, though
20:45:56 <psygnisfive> tho maybe within that its humerical, you could be right
20:49:37 <psygnisfive> my semantics prof used a minus sign for set minus
20:50:00 <Deewiant> as I said, those are the two that are generally used
20:50:41 <Deewiant> ah ha, I knew there was a code point for it
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21:06:33 <tusho> velociraptu.re is not taken
21:06:38 <tusho> but you have to be in reunion something
21:23:50 <AnMaster> Deewiant, http://www.dsource.org/projects/llvmdc/
21:23:57 <AnMaster> Deewiant, does that work with ccbi?
21:33:02 <tusho> otherwise I'd get bolog.ist (inside joke)
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21:36:49 <SimonRC> ah, the wonders of spam: http://spamusement.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8621
21:37:00 <SimonRC> specifically, the subject lines
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21:41:57 <tusho> psygnisfive: inside joke.
21:42:16 <tusho> it's from biologist, obviously
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22:05:37 * ais523 just had a strange moment: I was looking up how to build mingw programs on cygwin
22:05:45 <ais523> and found it on delorie.com, of all places
22:05:49 <ais523> that's the website of DJGPP...
22:07:34 <ais523> I was just amused at the profusion of compilers that compiled UNIXy stuff for windows, on one webpage
22:07:37 <ais523> or at the involvement of such
22:10:45 <ais523> anyway, it took about 24 hours to make, but I finally have Cygwin on my USB stick
22:10:55 <ais523> and working on more than one compuer
22:11:17 <ais523> the long time period was because I installed directly onto the USB stick for disk space reasons
22:11:54 <SimonRC> you lack the disk space to install cygwin?
22:12:11 <ais523> the Windows computer I have doesn't have much disk space left
22:12:26 <ais523> also, having it on a USB stick means I can use it on multiple computers
22:12:40 <ais523> although I haven't yet figured out what to do about /etc/passwd
22:12:50 <SimonRC> but an install to disk then copy to USB would have been faster presumably
22:13:01 <ais523> yes, it would have been
22:13:08 <ais523> I didn't mind running cygwin setup overnight, though
22:16:00 <SimonRC> unless it goes: 10% complete. I must now ask you a pointless question I have just worked out the answer to myself.
22:16:28 <ais523> no, there were no pointless questions
22:16:34 <ais523> not during the install, anyway
22:16:44 <ais523> a couple beforehand but it guessed wrong so I'm glad it asked
22:25:04 <olsner> who wants a cleveland steamer?
22:27:07 <SimonRC> please, this is a PG-13 channel
22:27:50 * pikhq walks around the room naked
22:28:57 <tusho> it's not a pg-13 channel SimonRC
22:29:07 <tusho> hasn't been since oklopol and bsmnt arrived
22:29:11 <tusho> which was ages ago.
22:29:42 <ais523> well, it still is as long as the guilty parties (which has expanded to more now) aren't talking
22:30:13 <SimonRC> ah, but IRC speech acts are of 0 duration, so almost all the time it is so
22:32:43 <tusho> ais523: who cares though, honestly
22:32:56 <tusho> the only people under 13 who visit here (3 of them) aren't exactly innocent little things
22:33:13 <ais523> I care because I visit this channel to talk about esolangs
22:33:23 <ais523> and other similar stupid things to do on computers
22:33:24 <tusho> ais523: and we do.
22:33:26 <tusho> but when there's nothing to talk about
22:33:29 <tusho> we talk about random crap
22:34:01 <SimonRC> I was joking goshdarnit; the joke was that I was taking "cleveland steamer" as sexual innuendo.
22:34:52 <ais523> SimonRC: it's not you I was complaining at, nor olsner
22:35:16 <tusho> it's oklopol and psygnisfive, yes, we know
22:35:24 <tusho> it only goes on when there's no reasonable discussion.
22:35:33 <tusho> and it's amusing, to some of us at least
22:35:52 <tusho> psygnisfive: ais523 is complaining that the channel isn't pg13
22:36:48 <tusho> oh you wacky psygnisfive
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22:42:37 <tusho> it's sekrit! and also an injoke.
22:42:39 <psygnisfive> also, ais, i recently downloaded 29 books on theory of computation, do you want?
22:43:03 <ais523> tusho: which domain did you register?
22:43:05 <tusho> .st costs £27/year
22:43:22 <tusho> ais523: it's sekrit! also an injoke. but rutian's apache config files have it obviously.
22:43:28 <tusho> being an injoke you're unlikely to get it.
22:43:35 <tusho> also don't give anyone the url. it's sekrit.
22:45:30 <tusho> i didn't get tus.ho
22:46:07 <ais523> oh, ok, I was only seeing one side of the conversatoin
22:46:10 <ais523> yes, I had you on ignore
22:46:27 <ais523> when people start talking about that sort of thing I just put them on /ignore for a while usually
22:46:34 <ais523> so it doesn't disturb me while I'm doing other things
22:46:36 <psygnisfive> psygnisfive: also, ais, i recently downloaded 29 books on theory of computation, do you want?
22:46:49 <ais523> well, anything that's widely offtopic and I'm not interested in
22:46:51 <SimonRC> ais523: why not just not look at irc?
22:47:08 <ais523> SimonRC: I have notifications pop up on top of everything when something comes through on IRC
22:47:35 <ais523> psygnisfive: no, I just have a different sense of humour from you, I don't mind you showing yours to other people in the channel, so I just filter it out my end
22:47:41 <ais523> that way everyone's happy except when the subject changes
22:48:05 <psygnisfive> <psygnisfive> also, ais, i recently downloaded 29 books on theory of computation, do you want?
22:48:32 <ais523> definitely not if it was illegal, as I'm deliberately keeping this computer copyright-clean
22:48:45 <ais523> and also I don't like breaking the law in general anyway
22:48:50 <tusho> STUPID DOMAIN PROPAGATION
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22:49:07 <SimonRC> ais523: indeed, you should see me at traffic lights
22:49:07 * tusho adds to /etc/hosts for now
22:49:10 <ais523> tusho: anyway I couldn't figure out what domain it was even after looking at the conffiles
22:49:26 <SimonRC> tusho: propagation takes hours, you know
22:49:37 <tusho> But eso-std.org propagated in like
22:49:59 <SimonRC> try throwing gems at unicorns
22:50:00 <oklopol> with any decent client you could just filter by message.split(' ') intersection badwordlist == []
22:50:28 <oklopol> also i'm rarely all that foulmouthed unless provoked
22:50:49 <psygnisfive> ill have to use good words in highly euphemistic ways :D
22:51:19 <ais523> SimonRC: doesn't it depend on what colour of unicorn
22:51:24 <ais523> and how genuine the gem is?
22:51:32 <ais523> if not, you could just throw the gems at an off-aligned unicorn
22:51:37 <ais523> then kill it and sacrifice it for the alignment
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23:45:23 <psygnisfive> Jack: ::yell at Gwen's husband, insulting him, etc.::
23:45:40 <psygnisfive> Jack, looking at Gwen: This is quite homoerotic..