< 1213228894 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1213229447 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213229481 0 :Slereah7!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-16-254.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1213229827 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213229862 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213230654 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ok. < 1213230661 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i dont know about the [] notation < 1213230667 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe something else < 1213230674 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1213230677 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like.. `a or something? < 1213230681 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@a? < 1213230687 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for cool ports? < 1213230693 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wha? < 1213230706 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/cool// < 1213230718 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? :P < 1213230743 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the special keywords in the reactions < 1213230773 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they were the port syntax < 1213230781 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1213230786 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well lets not call them ports, thats a weird name :P < 1213230788 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you could just have them in a preset var < 1213230796 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1213230818 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i think we should do is something like ` or @ < 1213230829 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ is good because its for the arguments < 1213230832 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a for args < 1213230865 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's awesome! < 1213230870 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's *do* it < 1213230872 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofcourse, destructuring: @[x,y] -> ![y,x] < 1213230876 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! for output < 1213230912 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so multiple return variables instead of just one < 1213230947 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure < 1213230957 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ could just mean it's the upper level var < 1213230966 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :upper level? < 1213230988 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, the thingie outside the function body < 1213231002 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahm, i dont know if ![y,x] would work, but for inputs it'd work as pattern matching < 1213231026 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well duh < 1213231030 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1213231035 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 -> x < 1213231054 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(@arg -> !x) -> func < 1213231061 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 -> func < 1213231064 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x == 4 now < 1213231074 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would be the 100% reactional way to do functions < 1213231078 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on a sec < 1213231083 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't let you add math support < 1213231107 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i guess you could do < 1213231120 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, math support would be simple < 1213231135 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(@ -> !) -> foo, where @ and ! are special vars with which you could do foo 5 == 5 < 1213231152 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because @ would be what foo is applied to, and ! the return < 1213231172 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, you could simultaneously do global changes with @ and ! accessing the upper level < 1213231176 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh well i think we'd need to go over this in a bit more detail < 1213231179 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gimme a few for that < 1213231180 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you only need one char for that tbh < 1213231200 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first of all we just need @, a var prefix meaning "upper context" < 1213231208 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :upper context -> upper context; < 1213231218 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(inner context -> inner context) -> upper context; < 1213231327 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was just an explanation of inner / outer context < 1213231351 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, usually, inside a function body, all variables are local < 1213231360 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ takes them off the upper context < 1213231377 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold one :P < 1213231390 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one? < 1213231403 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1213231406 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.107.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1213231415 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on* < 1213231426 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1213231442 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Slereah < 1213231584 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so heres how i envision it, right < 1213231593 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you define some function < 1213231594 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say < 1213231671 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1213231673 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.107.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1213231673 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1213231677 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.107.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1213231682 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh no.. sorry, now that im thinking about it i cant think of a way to do it without defining args seperate from other parts < 1213231701 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, with that, it's fine < 1213231702 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like < 1213231747 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo = @(a,b,c): a+b+c -> ! < 1213231782 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you'd need to do it that way because you need to be able to map input values to the function to their respective parts < 1213231793 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo = ([a,b,c] = @; a+b+c -> @) in my way < 1213231803 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you can use "foo [5,4,3]" < 1213231807 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and returns 12 < 1213231822 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well [a,b,c] = @ wouldnt work but < 1213231833 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's @ -> [a,b,c] < 1213231844 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ey.. oh i see ok < 1213231847 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure yes < 1213231858 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh brilliant < 1213231859 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's not pushed in the reaction list < 1213231862 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then we can just do it like this < 1213231989 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fac = ( @ -> n < 1213231989 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : n == 0: 1 -> ! < 1213231990 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : n*(fac n-1) -> ! ) < 1213231996 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hows that for the factorial? < 1213231997 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1213232013 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say that's awesome < 1213232032 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except still, you can use the same char for both output and input < 1213232032 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fac n -> blah being shorthand for (n -> fac) -> blah < 1213232033 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1213232040 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1213232051 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1213232053 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should we do that? same char? < 1213232056 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1213232068 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we do, then we can do @var = upper var < 1213232077 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this < 1213232078 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean?? < 1213232084 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: its language design! < 1213232092 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: look-up from outside the function < 1213232093 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll implement it < 1213232100 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i already did this morning < 1213232107 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: fuck you < 1213232109 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the changes being made now < 1213232110 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1213232126 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can implement those before they're fully decided on! < 1213232186 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont understand, what do you mean look-up from outside the function? < 1213232190 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1213232204 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :func = (x -> !) < 1213232208 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 -> x < 1213232217 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :func 7 == 5 < 1213232219 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :errr < 1213232223 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :func = (@x -> !) < 1213232244 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh.. no. you mean the get to variables outside the body of the function?? < 1213232248 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1213232251 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1213232254 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1213232256 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, its unnecessary. we can just use lexical scoping < 1213232261 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, look-up from outside the function < 1213232278 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be global scoping. < 1213232290 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's no way to declare a var < 1213232297 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we dont need to declare < 1213232298 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even set one < 1213232310 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variables are just lexical scope < 1213232339 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, so on right side, inner, on left side, upper? < 1213232348 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1213232351 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asd < 1213232375 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :func = (x -> x); <<< left = outer, right = inner < 1213232391 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :outer = x in outer scope < 1213232397 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.. no i see your point actually < 1213232397 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inner = x in inner scope < 1213232419 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1213232419 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me think about this for a second < 1213232421 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly a problem when setting a bar < 1213232423 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*var < 1213232426 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because scheme has lexical scope and doesnt have this issue. :P < 1213232431 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to be able to set a var in both upper and inner < 1213232449 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok how about this < 1213232450 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because upper is the pure, reactional way, which we're just making a syntactic convenience over with @ < 1213232456 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: because it seperates definition and setting < 1213232458 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what you should do < 1213232461 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seperate definition and setting. < 1213232474 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i did the =/-> separation with oklotalk < 1213232487 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much the same thing for this same scoping issue < 1213232491 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a variable is located in a higher environment, e.g. the environment the reaction was defined, then it refers to that variable < 1213232492 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. < 1213232510 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that's not what we should do < 1213232550 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: yeah, so i suggest @ for outer, because it's not used much, and it's semantically nice if it exists with the @ syntax thing for defining "functions" < 1213232561 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = 5 < 1213232562 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo = (x -> @) < 1213232563 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo 8 == 5 < 1213232568 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1213232590 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: variables can be used before they're made, so definition/setting is hard to separate < 1213232597 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean before they're set < 1213232598 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = 5 < 1213232598 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo = (y -> @) < 1213232599 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo 10 // error: y is undefined < 1213232602 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: thats' ok. < 1213232617 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+" < 1213232633 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = 5 < 1213232633 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo = ( y = 3 < 1213232634 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : y -> @ ) < 1213232636 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo 10 == 3 < 1213232637 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: for look-up, that's okay, the issue is with setting < 1213232638 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y == undefined < 1213232641 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i said < 1213232670 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to set variables outside of scope that are not already defined? < 1213232677 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would say, not allowed. :) < 1213232681 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not necessarily < 1213232698 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't want to set the outer scope variables that are already defined automatically in the inner scope < 1213232703 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1213232706 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = 0 < 1213232711 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( 3-> x) < 1213232716 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*(3 -> x) < 1213232724 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't change x < 1213232741 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i disagree, i'd say it should. (3 -> x) is defined in the environment where x is also defined < 1213232754 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the x inside (3 -> x) should refer to the x in that environment < 1213232789 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so global variables < 1213232794 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :z < 1213232806 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except *definitions* have scope < 1213232817 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean definitions have scope? < 1213232820 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very pretty < 1213232822 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1213232833 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you declare a var in an inner scope, it doesn't exist in the outer one < 1213232846 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... < 1213232848 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to explain < 1213232848 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes < 1213232868 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a variable is set, it's global in all inner scopes < 1213232876 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's essentially global. < 1213232885 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the same drawbacks afaict < 1213232888 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me code examples < 1213232892 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont see what you mean < 1213232906 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1213232909 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you do x < 1213232913 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1213232916 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :value -> x < 1213232925 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x will always refer to that x in any inner scope < 1213232933 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean like < 1213232947 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 -> x < 1213232947 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo = ( ... x ... ) < 1213232950 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1213232969 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you keep asking what an inner scope is? < 1213232976 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i mean that < 1213232984 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because your use is kind of odd. :P < 1213233001 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that x is the original x < 1213233010 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so inside foo, at this point, x == 5 < 1213233011 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree < 1213233018 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"x will always refer to that x in any inner scope" is recursive in that you can have nested inner scopes < 1213233018 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and always the same x < 1213233027 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're polluting the namespace for all the inner dudes < 1213233042 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just lexical scope. < 1213233043 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though you rarely actually set upper scope vars < 1213233064 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you usually just read them < 1213233078 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but theres no way really to get around that < 1213233079 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1213233080 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider: < 1213233105 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is really just the def/set difference problem tusho mentioned ages ago, and i solved much before that < 1213233122 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = 5 < 1213233123 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo = ( x = 6 < 1213233124 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : bar = ( x = 7)) < 1213233143 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, getting late < 1213233143 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should start doing my stuff < 1213233143 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stuff i have to do < 1213233143 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon < 1213233143 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon i'll do < 1213233145 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stuff. < 1213233147 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: FIREFOX 3 IS AWESOME < 1213233156 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need to have @x in the definition of foo in order to access the higher x < 1213233161 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and @@ in bar < 1213233165 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i think is silly < 1213233262 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213233290 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213233325 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :discoed there < 1213233330 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, so about the @ thing < 1213233333 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my idea was < 1213233333 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :func = (@ * 5 -> @); func arg -> res < 1213233335 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :desugars into < 1213233337 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inXXX = arg; func = (inXXX * 5 -> outXXX); res = outXXX; < 1213233353 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, that functions are just syntax for these kinds of dummy vars < 1213233374 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, @inXXX / @outXXX is my suggestion, still < 1213233403 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like it takes more to type, and it's conceptually nice given that semantics for @ < 1213233437 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, actually < 1213233465 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is still not that pure, because you have to choose how to use the function @ creation < 1213233476 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, no matter < 1213233488 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you just need one dummy now that i come to think of it < 1213233508 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/((out)|(in))XXX/dummyXXX < 1213233519 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(XXX is some unique number) < 1213233542 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if i'm online atm < 1213233589 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes you are < 1213233728 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if you have a line containing just "function" mean "merge function's reaction list with current scope's" < 1213233736 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, function syntax is just sugar for reaction creation using dummy variables < 1213233740 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can use that for simultaneous reaction additions < 1213233762 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :example < 1213233792 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, i suggest we provide further sugar, actually. i'd rather foo n = blah rather than foo = ( @ -> n ... blah ) < 1213233804 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213233821 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213233825 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1213233856 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my last? < 1213233860 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: my last msg < 1213233864 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"example" < 1213233868 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1213233871 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 -> x; (x - 1 -> x; x -> y) y -> output < 1213233874 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/)/);/ < 1213233877 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you missed this < 1213233877 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: oklopol, i suggest we provide further sugar, actually. i'd rather foo n = blah rather than foo = ( @ -> n ... blah ) < 1213233899 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much sugar!! :| < 1213233905 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1213233935 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well im going to have it in my implementation. :p < 1213233945 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :letting you *use* "func n" is pretty crucial, and essential for pureness considering we have mathematical functions already < 1213233954 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1213233974 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in okloreact you dont have to have it but i'm going to have it in my implementation. :p < 1213233976 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :defining it has no need to be... well haskell < 1213234020 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is just lisp with optional parens. :) < 1213234031 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure is < 1213234048 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fac n? really just (fac n) < 1213234052 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all < 1213234056 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fac (fac n) < 1213234063 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which looks exactly like (fac (fac n)) < 1213234068 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is lisp! < 1213234071 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, basically < 1213234077 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no difference whatsoever < 1213234079 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: sorry < 1213234082 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're wronggg < 1213234085 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1213234086 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially re: currying < 1213234093 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a b c) is not ((a b) c) in lisp < 1213234094 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i like to pretend i'm not ;) < 1213234094 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact < 1213234095 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in lisp < 1213234098 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(((a))) is not a < 1213234102 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: don't assume stupidity, do like me and agree :| < 1213234111 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, tusho, im being silly < 1213234113 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I always assume stupidity. :D < 1213234117 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: As I. < 1213234132 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: indeed you do, and often you're right, but please try and save it for the noobs :D < 1213234140 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess augur is a bit of a noob < 1213234143 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1213234165 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1213234165 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally < 1213234175 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :point and laugh? < 1213234179 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION points and laughs < 1213234179 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :T_T < 1213234190 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1213234194 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :::sucks oklopols pointed finger:: =d < 1213234204 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting hot in here < 1213234212 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta remove my clothes < 1213234220 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...right, i'm already nekkid < 1213234226 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :::sits on oklopols lap:: < 1213234236 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this, Alan Turing's house? < 1213234245 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god i'm so jacking off right now < 1213234248 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1213234253 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were we talking about? < 1213234258 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, the syntax < 1213234273 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1213234293 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol is going to cum in my ass, do you have a problem with this slereah? < 1213234300 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: this is alan turing's house for *two* reasons < 1213234319 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the second that you're going to become an hero? < 1213234323 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of them is your mother < 1213234327 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other is mine < 1213234331 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're having hot lesbian sex < 1213234351 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: do gays like lesbian action? < 1213234412 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dbc won with zero sex lag < 1213234438 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no. lol. why would we? < 1213234481 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, i like icecream but i don't have sex with it < 1213234486 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i try, but my cock get's numb < 1213234491 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to figure out who is actually gay in #esoteric. < 1213234494 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1213234499 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: everyone, duh. < 1213234500 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even you. < 1213234513 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except, like, really. < 1213234547 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah and i are gay, oklopol is bi < 1213234550 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: does it matter? < 1213234562 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you cant handle that, we're going to have to rape you. < 1213234563 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho hungers for dongs. < 1213234566 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no, but it would help the conversations be less confusing < 1213234573 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1213234578 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm bi? good to know < 1213234580 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is #esoteric and you want LESS confusion? < 1213234589 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1213234593 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol just got PROFILED < 1213234611 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well fuck my ass and call me britney, so i did! < 1213234627 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you insist. < 1213234643 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Relations between pure and applied mathematicians are based on trust and understanding. Namely, pure mathematicians do not trust applied mathematicians, and applied mathematicians do not understand pure mathematicians." < 1213234645 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1213234673 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you fucked your ass and called you britney? < 1213234681 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mathematicians stand on each other's shoulders while computer scientists stand on each other's toes. " < 1213234696 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It has been said that physicists stand on one another's shoulders. If this is the case, then programmers stand on one another's toes, and software engineers dig each other's graves. " < 1213234699 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lolled. < 1213234747 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah: lol nice quote :) < 1213234756 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool quote < 1213234758 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quotes* < 1213234763 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool quotes < 1213234768 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.math.utah.edu/~cherk/mathjokes.html < 1213234768 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are from tharr < 1213234774 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you heard the one < 1213234783 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to convert that into fortune(1) format. < 1213234814 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :biologists like to pretend they're chemists, chemists like to pretend they're physicists, physicists like to pretend they're god, and god likes to pretend he's a mathematician < 1213234815 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1213234848 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it was in today's XKCD. < 1213234849 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :biologists like to pretend they're chemists, chemists like to pretend they're physicists, physicists like to pretend they're dog, and dog likes to pretend he's a mathematician < 1213234857 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not quite that one, slereah < 1213234859 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but close < 1213234859 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: It's "xkcd". < 1213234862 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tho this one is older < 1213234865 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I LIKE TURTLES < 1213234930 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should make reactoscheme < 1213234946 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add reactions to scheme < 1213234952 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have <- be a special form < 1213234974 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pee < 1213234978 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- and -> < 1213234997 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :URINE < 1213235003 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemonade < 1213235012 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(<- x y) < 1213235030 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :urine < 1213235071 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(urin -> slereah's mouth) < 1213235085 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This tastes like urine. < 1213235087 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1213235089 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tastes like urin < 1213235123 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but prolly has a urin-e taste too < 1213235132 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, what are you guys's majors? < 1213235138 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urinish < 1213235147 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Physics. < 1213235160 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: don't answer, it's depressing to hear < 1213235166 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My minor is ass sexing. < 1213235182 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cs < 1213235202 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, have you watched any of the open course ware stuff from MIT? < 1213235208 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or berkeley's equivalent? < 1213235224 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah, have you read SICM? < 1213235251 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1213235257 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SICP, mehbe? < 1213235266 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :structure and interpretation of classical mechanics < 1213235282 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get enough mechanics at school. < 1213235290 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its lagrangian mechanics taught as tho it were a scheme lib. < 1213235306 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :majors? bah! you ancient folk. < 1213235309 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i say "as tho" what i mean is you actually write a scheme lib. :p < 1213235335 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feh. I bet you can't even build a time machine with it. < 1213235347 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its scheme, ofcourse you can < 1213235358 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(define tm (time-machine)) < 1213235359 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to use the relativistic Lagrangian for that! < 1213235370 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :L = sqrt(-g) R < 1213235453 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMOK < 1213235459 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND JALAR < 1213235461 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AT < 1213235463 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TANAGRA < 1213235468 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JALAD, not JALAR < 1213235469 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU FAIL < 1213235471 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fu < 1213235475 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1213235604 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, after a long discussion in priv with tusho, we decided it would be best to try and crush your hopes and dreams by revealing he's 12, and already owns you at most things < 1213235610 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHA < 1213235615 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to keep together < 1213235634 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 huh? < 1213235641 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You gonna get raped. < 1213235646 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1213235649 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :::pulls up in a van with blacked out windows:: < 1213235652 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey kid, want some candy? < 1213235662 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1213235664 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: YES PLIS < 1213235673 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh guys < 1213235693 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you heard that vent chat where this little 11 year old is playing with some 20+s < 1213235699 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its so hilarious < 1213235704 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vent chat? < 1213235708 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ventrillo < 1213235712 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ventrillo < 1213235712 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1213235717 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some thing the WOWers use to voice chat < 1213235728 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go onto youtube and search for ventrillo harassment < 1213235730 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its genius < 1213235738 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. < 1213235744 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So tusho. < 1213235747 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it the one where he cries when his parents close the game? < 1213235748 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IVE GOT BALLS OF STEEL < 1213235748 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IVE GOT BALLS OF STEEL < 1213235749 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IVE GOT BALLS OF STEEL < 1213235750 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Slereah. < 1213235752 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IVE GOT BALLS OF STEEL < 1213235753 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IVE GOT BALLS OF STEEL < 1213235755 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IVE GOT BALLS OF STEEL < 1213235757 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you enjoy gladiator movies? < 1213235758 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. < 1213235761 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: Lols. < 1213235768 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gladiator was a good movie < 1213235782 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ever been in a Turkish prison? < 1213235794 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool prison < 1213235800 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho can come to my turkish prison any time he wants < 1213235809 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some contrived innuendo there < 1213235826 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, you never saw the movie "Airplane"? < 1213235826 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually no, i really do have a turkish prison < 1213235829 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame on you. < 1213235835 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Airplane, REALLY good movie < 1213235842 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome movie. < 1213235845 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so cool < 1213235851 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so cool an one movies < 1213235861 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should watch airplane again < 1213235864 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i havent seen it in ages < 1213235889 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why watch airplane when you can just wiggle your toes and watch them? < 1213235900 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, oklopol is so cute < 1213235901 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: intriguing < 1213235908 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol is high < 1213235911 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :::glomps oklopol:: you're so cute < 1213235914 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1213235925 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my toes are quite cute, i have to admit. < 1213235934 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i demand pictures of oklofeet < 1213235940 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as proof. < 1213235945 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and masturbation material. < 1213235946 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i hear you're a bottom, shouldn't you be more into the rugged manly type? < 1213235956 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: noted < 1213235959 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a bottom, but no. < 1213235973 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol : augur's taste in men is dorks, from what I can see < 1213235973 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just cause i like cock in my ass doesnt mean i like the rugged manly type < 1213236089 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i'm being a bit black-and-white < 1213236124 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you, a half-nigger? < 1213236145 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1213236149 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no a zebra < 1213236169 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh i'm a fucking polyhedron < 1213236171 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd do a zebra. such a big hard cock... mmm < 1213236193 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: are you saying i'm a dork, or is it just for the guys he actually gets? < 1213236195 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is turning into #isharia < 1213236206 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, he showed me his dream boy < 1213236211 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He looks like a total dork < 1213236212 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: he's saying that since i find you hot, you must be a dork < 1213236224 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a dork? < 1213236243 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a whale penis. < 1213236248 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm totally out of the loop on #esoteric. everyone seems to come from one or two irc channels and I only know about one of them :p < 1213236256 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from wikipedia: "USA slang for a quirky, silly and/or stupid, socially inept person, or one who is out of touch with contemporary trends" < 1213236268 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i just know #eso ppl on freenode. < 1213236282 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :came here for this channel, i mainly just idle on my other chans < 1213236287 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've followed me to like four other rooks, oklopol, dont lie < 1213236294 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well, it seems half of everyone here is from Sine < 1213236294 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're in #proglangdesign RIGHT THIS MINUTE < 1213236296 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and #parsers < 1213236303 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other half is from some place called #isharia < 1213236307 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the third half is random crap < 1213236309 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, well ok, i guess #proglangdesign would be just as interesting given more content < 1213236322 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, #proglangdesign is slow :( < 1213236334 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: sgeo is from there, and has recruited ppl there < 1213236341 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah I know < 1213236341 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, SimonRC doesn't talk anymore < 1213236344 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been on sine a few times < 1213236344 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but meh < 1213236347 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and SimonRC does so talk. < 1213236348 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, i wanna create a parser for a language with movement. :O < 1213236354 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC < 1213236359 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say stuff < 1213236359 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is here from #isharia too, I seem to recall him mentioning it at one point < 1213236363 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*he < 1213236366 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes he is < 1213236386 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're like the three musketeers, except we're not four < 1213236392 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC has been active < 1213236396 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my time < 1213236413 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC was active like a few days ago. < 1213236430 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, i've prolly been active actively for the longest now < 1213236434 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I had no idea about Sine until I saw a screenshot with it on sgeo's website which I was poking around < 1213236440 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then someone told me the address a bit later < 1213236441 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1213236466 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1213236477 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess ihope and ais523 are active < 1213236480 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and older than me < 1213236497 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :older in #eso-activity < 1213236499 0 :Dewi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, the people who wrote that wikipedia article on dorks are real dorks < 1213236507 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's do the hokey pokey < 1213236512 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because IHOPE IS 15 AND OWNS ALL YOU YOU IN MATH. < 1213236519 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 14. < 1213236522 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1213236525 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'M 12 AND I OWN YOU ALL IN BEING ANNOYING. < 1213236527 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: 15 < 1213236533 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assumed < 1213236537 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*all of you < 1213236557 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho : Don't make me use my trolling gear < 1213236563 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: you always use it. < 1213236568 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But moar < 1213236574 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that even possible < 1213236598 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1213236616 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1213236618 0 :Slereah7!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-16-254.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1213236620 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol depresses me. :\ < 1213236626 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1213236626 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I depresses me. < 1213236629 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: how so? < 1213236632 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cheer me up < 1213236636 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1213236643 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you'd be a great boyfriend. :P < 1213236648 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolly :) < 1213236655 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'd be so great together! < 1213236659 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate your girlfriend :( < 1213236666 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could code together all night and have sex on the side... < 1213236668 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhh < 1213236678 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1213236684 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ the beginning of a long lasting relationship ^^ < 1213236688 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i'm being a bit mean... or sexy? < 1213236695 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both! < 1213236698 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklosexy. < 1213236845 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So tusho, what do you want to be when you grow up < 1213236846 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A fireman? < 1213236849 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An astronaut? < 1213236857 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: A PEDOPHILE! < 1213236870 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't, the market is full. < 1213236890 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1213236895 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All my hopes and dreams. < 1213236896 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shattered. < 1213236909 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to Bush America < 1213236921 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm in england. < 1213236923 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: do what i did, take pictures of yourself now, so you can jack off to them when you're an incest-loving old gay pedophile < 1213236939 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hey now that's a clever idea! < 1213236943 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed! < 1213236958 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEE ARE BEE < 1213236961 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1213236969 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Film yourself eating some feces, just in case you grow up to be into pedoscat < 1213236985 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :self pedoscat? < 1213236989 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I'll have perfected my photoshoop skills by then < 1213237038 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess in case you turn out to be a pedocoprophiliac you might wanna put some feces in the freezer or smth. < 1213237065 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a delicious frozen treat < 1213237077 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Slereah < 1213237093 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, #esoteric-sex might be more feasible nowadays < 1213237098 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :used to be just me and bsmnt < 1213237135 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1213237138 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't that just be < 1213237140 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric-blah < 1213237149 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is, uh, the offtopic counterpart to #esoteric < 1213237151 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't that just be #esoteric < 1213237153 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tho mostly only used for bawtz. < 1213237175 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: well sure, except some might not enjoy the filth < 1213237177 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1213237185 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder who these some are. < 1213237189 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably none < 1213237205 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ais523 doesn't really like it < 1213237210 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why he leaves quite often < 1213237211 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1213237227 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and prolly oerjie too, but he's a full-time idler anyways nowadays < 1213237291 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: has he actually said that? < 1213237306 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, in #ESO or somewhere < 1213237308 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just left when someone has been naughty? < 1213237312 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, he's said it < 1213237364 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIVE FREE OR DON'T < 1213237375 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1213237421 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess all irc channels have the same issue < 1213237437 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially with augur! < 1213237437 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except on bigger ones there is the occasional "stop, that's disgusting" < 1213237442 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is ignored < 1213237453 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it IS a bit of a problem here < 1213237455 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's amusing < 1213237460 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, you know, we could talk about esolangs sometime. < 1213237463 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh :) < 1213237464 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and actually keep on topic. < 1213237519 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you know priority symbols from before 1202, I could work them somewhere in Arithmetica! < 1213237536 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming without parenthesis or PN is a pain in the ass. < 1213237537 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arithmetica? < 1213237545 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have naming? < 1213237547 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Slereah/Arithmetica < 1213237551 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a way to scope < 1213237557 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naming? < 1213237579 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what? < 1213237620 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = 5 + 6 < 1213237625 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b = a * 3 < 1213237632 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for (5 + 6) * 3 < 1213237664 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe. < 1213237670 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that seems like troubles. < 1213237687 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, looking for mathematics from the third century is too, in a way < 1213237702 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematics is eternal! < 1213237704 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk watching CS61C < 1213237709 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hf < 1213237732 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: so it's basically a way to denote equations and shit? < 1213237733 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematics from the olden day was horrible to read < 1213237749 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol : Well, that's mostly what Arithmetica was < 1213237765 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah: what if mathematics today is horrible to read compared to math from 4000 AD? < 1213237766 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1213237769 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first book to have mathematical notation, but it was mostly created for equations. < 1213237789 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool equations < 1213237792 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from Diophantus, the guy that gave his name to diophantine equations < 1213237798 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1213237815 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i derived the way to solve those recently < 1213237835 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't solve generally diophantine equations < 1213237839 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gödel proved that! < 1213237848 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err then i'm thinking of something else < 1213237863 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's diop.? < 1213237889 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's just polynoms. < 1213237903 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOM NOM < 1213237915 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In mathematics, a Diophantine equation is an indeterminate polynomial equation that allows the variables to be integers only." < 1213237941 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1213237949 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was just the simple form that had the name < 1213237964 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In 1970, a novel result in mathematical logic known as Matiyasevich's theorem settled the problem negatively: in general Diophantine problems are unsolvable." < 1213237965 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X + AY = C < 1213237968 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1970? :o < 1213237980 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1213237984 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they could've been solvable for integers < 1213237987 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's my Gödel book < 1213237987 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if not for reals < 1213238011 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's not X-jection integer -> real < 1213238047 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it doesn't matter a lot < 1213238056 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no constructive set of reals. < 1213238087 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Diophantine equivalents of undecidable proposition" < 1213238098 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm justt saying the lack of that jection (supply correct term pls) means it's not a trivial result < 1213238103 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From Gödel < 1213238105 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*just < 1213238200 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Thus there exists a statement about the solutions of a diophantine equation which is not decidable in our formal system." < 1213238212 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. Maybe the dude showed it was impossible in general < 1213238225 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the diff? < 1213238229 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, it would be true for all formal system < 1213238252 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not all mathematical problems have to be solved by formal systems < 1213238697 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213238732 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo! :( < 1213238735 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :miss oklopol < 1213238740 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213238743 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1213239213 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder < 1213239225 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes see that esolangs are used for educational purposes < 1213239230 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But are there any examples? < 1213239388 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: not really. < 1213239443 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213239472 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213240087 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye for today :) < 1213240101 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1213242040 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213242056 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213244594 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1213244666 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213244683 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213247055 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213247170 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213247460 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1213247478 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213247810 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213247902 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213248263 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1213248328 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213248850 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1213248983 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213249844 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213250720 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm|--0@219-88-194-36.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1213251131 0 :oklofok!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213253816 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1213256826 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :heinlein.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1213256827 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :heinlein.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1213256828 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :heinlein.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1213256828 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :heinlein.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1213256828 0 :Phenax!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :heinlein.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1213256828 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :heinlein.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1213256828 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :heinlein.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1213256831 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :heinlein.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1213256831 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :heinlein.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1213256832 0 :Polar!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :heinlein.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1213256832 0 :AAAAAAue4njxuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT 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:olsner!n=salparot@h-79-136-60-96.NA.cust.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1213256959 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1213256959 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1213256959 0 :fizzie!n=fis@sesefras.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213256959 0 :Deewiant!n=mniemenm@peridootti.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213256959 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-115-170.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1213256959 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1213256959 0 :Polar!i=polar@arunprasannan.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1213256959 0 :AAAAAAue4njxuz!n=Quendion@145.175.adsl.brightview.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1213256959 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@wilug/madlug/sekhmet JOIN :#esoteric < 1213256959 0 :Phenax!n=Phenax@67.15.72.46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1213256959 0 :Dewi!n=dewi@124-171-148-197.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1213256959 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@haje12.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1213256959 0 :SimonRC!n=sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1213256959 0 :dbc!n=daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1213256959 0 :mtve!i=mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1213257599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1213257600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1213259437 0 :Slereah7!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-56-47.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1213260384 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1213260708 0 :jix!n=jix@paed-gw.schule.bremen.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1213264038 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-54-75.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1213264093 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1213266047 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-54-75.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1213266390 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1213267191 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213267219 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1213267234 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213267532 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Saliendo" < 1213267693 0 :Slereah7!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-56-47.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1213269217 0 :DarkUranium!n=DarkUran@cpe-92-37-70-236.dynamic.amis.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1213269223 0 :DarkUranium!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1213269399 0 :Hiato1!n=Hiato@dsl-245-54-75.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1213270368 0 :revcompgeek!i=42ec44fd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b0cbbcba655a81ba JOIN :#esoteric < 1213270377 0 :revcompgeek!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1213270406 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1213270535 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213270797 0 :Slereah7!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-56-47.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1213274321 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host146-81-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1213275605 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-54-75.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1213276660 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1213278021 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1213279785 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1213279955 0 :pikhq!n=Pikhq@asst01.asunix.tufts.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1213280038 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213280367 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-080-228-178-129.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1213280416 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1213280470 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-051-027.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1213281454 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone alive [that can help with regexps]? < 1213281474 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1213281531 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, well essentially, if I want to pass only strings that don't contain two letters specified in an array, in immediate succession, what kind of logic must I use? < 1213281534 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially < 1213281549 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say the array is ['a','b','c'] < 1213281563 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want adbec to pass, but abd to fail etc < 1213281597 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only get as far as +{1,5}? < 1213281600 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not right < 1213281604 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PS: it's in python < 1213281730 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, oklopol, I'm a total newcomer to it in Python, so don't expect me to be much help ;) < 1213281750 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa < 1213281835 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :def check(l):return all(map(lambda(a,b):abs(ord(a)-ord(b))!=1,zip(l,l[1:]))) < 1213281881 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, you get the following: < 1213281882 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :temp1 = ['abc','abd','adb'] < 1213281882 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :temp2 = ['a','b'] < 1213281882 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for p in range(len(temp1)): if someOKLOPOLmagic: pop(temp1(p)) < 1213281882 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the condition being, you cannot have more than one of anything in tempt 2 together in anything in temp1 < 1213282073 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, the condition is way too complicated for a regexp < 1213282081 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, nevermind < 1213282087 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thanks anyway :) < 1213282104 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sets out to do it procedurally < 1213282141 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1213282156 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :temp1 is a list < 1213282159 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're calling it < 1213282163 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1213282165 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :temp1(p) < 1213282169 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bad < 1213282170 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what magid this is < 1213282171 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1213282172 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :temp1[p] < 1213282174 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see, i see < 1213282193 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, it's possible i misunderstood what you needed < 1213282211 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check tells you whether a string/list contains characters one apart from each other < 1213282213 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1213283891 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213285834 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.107.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1213285850 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213285866 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213285889 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :halo oklopol < 1213286234 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-77.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1213286280 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1213286302 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.107.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1213286360 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :halo < 1213286586 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :halo < 1213287863 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hal < 1213288057 0 :oklofok!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213288077 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213288111 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haz < 1213288171 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1213288312 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kool < 1213290037 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1213290082 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213290103 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213290681 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213290696 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213291176 0 :HanDongSeong!n=uvanta_@119.65.125.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1213291190 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1213291298 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213291315 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :LogZZZ: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric ~~~ IT'S QUALITYSS < 1213291392 0 :oklofok!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213291393 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213291666 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213291683 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213292912 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@AMarseille-151-1-9-24.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1213293136 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1213293927 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213294350 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1213294365 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213295149 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1213295189 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o lament < 1213295200 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol wut lament? < 1213295202 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-b *!*n=cmeme@*.b9.com < 1213295208 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1213295208 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1213295217 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which, this channel will be logged soon < 1213295226 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like. reliably. < 1213295227 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-o lament < 1213295234 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully it already is, no?.. by clog? < 1213295284 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: but not in a convenient interface < 1213295298 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's irseek for that :) < 1213295307 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: I've already expressed my objections to irseek. < 1213295313 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, mine will import all the logs clog did. < 1213295319 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := far more useful < 1213295358 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yarly < 1213295406 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: what on earth is the correct response to 'yarly' without 'orly' before it? < 1213295413 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'orly' or 'nowai' or 'YOU GOT IT WRONG DAMNIT' < 1213296037 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1213296885 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "I don't believe it!" < 1213296895 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which should be answered by "HABEEB IT!" < 1213297772 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf @ http://dagobah.biz/flash/the_worlds_hardest_game.swf < 1213297786 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incredibly easy :| < 1213297866 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bimonthly take-out-the-trash -> < 1213297891 0 :revcompgeek!i=42ec44fd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-14644ab846e73b25 JOIN :#esoteric < 1213297898 0 :revcompgeek!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1213298203 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol : Try "I want to be the guy" < 1213298309 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: yes. < 1213298542 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1213299199 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it the beta build i'm supposed to load? < 1213299208 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kayin.pyoko.org/iwbtg/downloads.php tell me what to click < 1213299262 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: IWTBG Beta Build Frame Skip < 1213299269 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if your machine is ANCIENT, Slomo (I use frame skip.) < 1213299281 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Then, put it on the desktop or something and run it. < 1213299285 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Controls: < 1213299288 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Left+Right = Move < 1213299291 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shift = Jump < 1213299293 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z = Shoot. < 1213299315 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then, kill yourself without playing it. < 1213299401 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm getting 4.5 kb/s, so may take a while before i can try that < 1213299415 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: then < 1213299419 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Click Here to Download Demo! < 1213299435 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it includes the first 3 bosses ... which take like weeks of determined practice to get to anyway < 1213299475 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1213299481 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never got past the first screen. < 1213299503 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Just jump up the top. < 1213299506 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the easiest route. < 1213299535 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried < 1213299541 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can't jump high enough < 1213299561 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Double jump, dude. < 1213299564 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Press shift twice. < 1213299572 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also tried < 1213299588 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: You have to move to the right to actually land on something... < 1213299589 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't, you know, get enough on the right to reach the floor < 1213299596 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1213299602 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Um. Just keep trying. It's easy. I got it first time. < 1213299605 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played enough Mario to know the drill! < 1213299605 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're just being too clever. < 1213299611 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just: < 1213299613 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hold down right < 1213299614 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Press jump < 1213299616 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Press jump again < 1213299660 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, got it < 1213299679 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I was killed by an apple :o < 1213299690 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: You have to run into them, then away before they fall. < 1213299694 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you have to jump over some of them. < 1213299698 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, they're giant cherries. < 1213299710 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try as soon as I get back up < 1213299717 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeez. < 1213299721 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even hard. < 1213299722 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any way. < 1213299735 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it are >:| < 1213299753 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Watch a video of it on youtube. < 1213299753 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1213299767 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Oh. < 1213299770 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know your problem. < 1213299777 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should press jump when you reach your peak. < 1213299780 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not straight after the first. < 1213299787 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1213299814 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fucking cherry. < 1213299819 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Yeah. < 1213299824 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are a bit infuriating. < 1213299837 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :judging by the youtube clip the first part is trivial < 1213299841 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1213299843 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you'd think < 1213299844 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no < 1213299846 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :till the first savepoint < 1213299851 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1213299856 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you move fast < 1213299858 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to get precision < 1213299866 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps. < 1213299872 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's loaded @ 12% < 1213299878 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err 17% < 1213299880 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still < 1213299888 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: stop watching the youtube video, it'll spoil all the suprises < 1213299888 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1213299965 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah shit < 1213299969 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost crossed it! < 1213299970 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: wut < 1213299972 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1213299973 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happens a lot < 1213299974 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT < 1213299976 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you memorize the first part < 1213299978 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quickly < 1213299983 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so its not that painful < 1213300005 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: the thing is that this game is actually fun < 1213300009 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in the 'whee this is fun' sense < 1213300019 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in the 'HAHAHAHA YES I GOT PAST THIS PART YOU FUCKING GAME I ROCK SO FUCKING MUCH' < 1213300022 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sense < 1213300039 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A big problem is the shift key < 1213300049 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: maybe you should try a gamepad < 1213300051 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I press it 5 times in a row, I get some windows thingamabob < 1213300053 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1213300055 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: that's easy < 1213300057 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :press settings < 1213300063 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 'configure' on the stickykeys thing < 1213300067 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and deselect 'Use keycombination' < 1213300069 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or w/e < 1213300071 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i watched just till the first part < 1213300073 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something similar to that < 1213300074 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it stops it < 1213300081 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanted to see what it looks like < 1213300091 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is still laughing about the 2:1 result < 1213300093 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck < 1213300098 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I jumped in a Cherry < 1213300103 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: hurr < 1213300121 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: < 1213300122 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1213300125 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope you're playing on Medium < 1213300130 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those wuss points are invaluable < 1213300138 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1213300142 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the bow-tie is funny < 1213300146 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you get to a save point, you've definitely achieved something? i mean, is it straightforward? < 1213300146 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not stupid enough to do hard on my first game < 1213300153 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: huh? < 1213300158 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1213300160 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: anyway, just a note < 1213300161 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you play it < 1213300164 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :set the difficulty to Medium < 1213300166 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to go the wrong way < 1213300167 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he means "Can I do something wrong" < 1213300171 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1213300171 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1213300176 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no, you can't go wrong < 1213300179 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are multiple paths < 1213300186 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, you beat one boss, then go back and do another < 1213300186 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1213300188 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1213300191 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's all one big map) < 1213300201 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: anyway, choose Medium - all the skills effect are the number of save points < 1213300203 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you really need them < 1213300210 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, Medium puts a pink bow-tie on your character for being a wuss.) < 1213300230 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll try medium if hard is hard < 1213300234 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it is < 1213300235 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trust me on this < 1213300239 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1213300241 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Medium is nigh-on impossible anyway < 1213300243 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won't trust you :) < 1213300257 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: dude, right after the cherries (REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING) is a bit that'll take you like 50 tries to get right < 1213300262 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't wanna have to do the cherries every time < 1213300269 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a wuss point right after the cherries though < 1213300273 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. only available on Medium < 1213300280 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read that some games unlock the easy mode if you die enough < 1213300286 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, the FAQ tells all new players to START ON MEDIUM DAMNIT < 1213300293 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they put you in a tutu or something for being such a pansy. < 1213300298 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah < 1213300303 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: okay, okay < 1213300306 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Well, look at the main character on medium. < 1213300312 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That pink thing isn't there on anythiing but medium. :P < 1213300326 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, this game is one of them, except it's always unlocked < 1213300328 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1213300329 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an "easy" < 1213300333 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: nope < 1213300335 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I cleared the falling cherries. < 1213300338 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Medium, Hard, Very Hard, Impossible < 1213300341 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah :D < 1213300343 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Impossible has no save points at all - so it literally is. < 1213300344 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, how to jump on the platform... < 1213300350 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i would've started on impossible < 1213300353 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha xD < 1213300365 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Medium will rape you from the inside anyway < 1213300366 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1213300366 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's always some nutso who actually do the "impossible" levels and such < 1213300379 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Not on this game. < 1213300383 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, uh, the game is very big. < 1213300387 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like that guy who managed to finish Postal 2 without killing anyone. < 1213300393 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it has loads of one-pixel=OOP I DIED < 1213300401 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho : Believe me, you'll always find a nut. < 1213300407 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if you're really good. You'll die like 100 times on Medium. < 1213300415 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :REALLY good. < 1213300432 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Shiet. You're right. < 1213300432 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kSqQ8Qjc9fs&feature=related < 1213300449 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the person doing thati s a retard. < 1213300475 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1213300477 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAH < 1213300480 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: What. < 1213300486 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE CHERRIES FALL BACKWARDS < 1213300492 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck you game < 1213300495 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: I thought you said you cleared that. < 1213300504 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, btw. To use a save/wuss point shoot it. < 1213300506 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll go green. < 1213300518 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1213300527 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant that I cleared the cherries that fall, you know < 1213300530 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The right way < 1213300535 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: oh < 1213300540 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's not hard the second time < 1213300541 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and.. < 1213300543 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just jump out of their way. < 1213300559 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how? :o < 1213300567 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first one, I have like a 1cm wide platform < 1213300583 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Start to jump on to the next platform, then immediately press right to get back. < 1213300621 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man < 1213300635 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I want to be the guy. < 1213300641 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: It's a bit hard getting used to it. < 1213300647 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Die a few more times and it should become second nature. :P < 1213300655 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there it goes < 1213300665 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Btw. < 1213300667 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the very last one. < 1213300674 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just have to double jump on to the last platform < 1213300676 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can shoot the savepoint from here. < 1213300678 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hold down left to do it. < 1213300683 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no. < 1213300685 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't. < 1213300694 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, the last one you just GTFO on to the next platform before it hits you. < 1213300736 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two cherries left! < 1213300760 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: the last one under the platform just falls downwards. < 1213300774 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second-last one (the one before the wuss point) you just have to jump and be fast enough < 1213300775 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1213300777 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodies. < 1213300802 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah shit < 1213300806 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fell back underground < 1213300810 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: that's ok < 1213300813 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cherries are still gone < 1213300822 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just run back < 1213300867 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This game could use a gravgun < 1213300874 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And an HEV suit. < 1213300881 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Quite. < 1213300896 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Savepoint! < 1213300904 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Wusspoint or save point? < 1213300911 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it both? < 1213300914 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Yes. < 1213300916 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But one is marked WUSS. < 1213300925 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, btw. When you get beyond the clouds, don't go <-- to the left. Go ^ up with the EVIL SPIKY FALLDOWN < 1213300971 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing the game over music isn't annoying. < 1213300981 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Was that sarcasm? < 1213300984 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you can turn off the moo-sic. < 1213300987 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1213301070 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1213301106 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah shit < 1213301116 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I jumped too far and landed on a spike :o < 1213301127 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Heh < 1213301130 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You gotta save point though. < 1213301173 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GAH THIS BIT IS IMPOSSIBLE> < 1213301173 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost! < 1213301225 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I get from the cloud that goes up to the leftmost cloud? < 1213301240 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Well that's the challengy bit. < 1213301245 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you need to get off it, right? < 1213301250 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, where are your exits from that cloud? < 1213301266 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, just brute force itt. < 1213301266 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, spikes on the left < 1213301268 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :itttt < 1213301271 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spikes on the right < 1213301273 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikes under < 1213301275 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Spikes on the RIGHT? < 1213301277 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spikes over < 1213301283 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're talking about the cloud that goes up. < 1213301286 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no spikes to the right of that. < 1213301290 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a way off the cloud. < 1213301299 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: And you can change your direction mid-fall. < 1213301300 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So: < 1213301305 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That "way off" is less than one centimeter. < 1213301306 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walk off the right edge of the cloud as it goes upwards. < 1213301311 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, immediately hold down left < 1213301316 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double jump half-way there. < 1213301318 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: No it's not. < 1213301319 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, my character is ten pixels wide < 1213301321 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do it as soon as you get onto it. < 1213301322 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still < 1213301356 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even got the time to get to the middle of it :o < 1213301387 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Lemme show you an mspaint. < 1213301513 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Just a sce. < 1213301544 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: K, here: < 1213301547 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xs128.xs.to/xs128/08244/sdfdsf890.png < 1213301554 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1213301558 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Red line = where to go when you land on planet Goupcloud. < 1213301586 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck. < 1213301594 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The jump key isn't always very responsive :( < 1213301599 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: No, actually... < 1213301601 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But < 1213301607 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't double jump when you go below your peak < 1213301608 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is < 1213301611 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_-^-_ < 1213301614 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHen you get to the second - < 1213301617 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't double jump any more < 1213301618 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1213301641 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The descending cloud actually *flex* when I'm over it! < 1213301646 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just wants me dead < 1213301649 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck you cloud. < 1213301658 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Flex? < 1213301659 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1213301669 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1213301680 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't actually descend because of gravity or anything. < 1213301687 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This cloud has a mind of its own < 1213301701 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: You mean the middle cloud? < 1213301709 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes as much sense as cherries falling upwards. < 1213301716 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're over it, but before you land, you can see it going down and up. < 1213301722 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1213301723 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1213301730 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. The environment is very hostile. < 1213301750 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh course, if a guy with a pink bow jumped on my back, I would send him to his death < 1213301794 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1213301797 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got further than ever there < 1213301801 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: I figure I shoudl warn you: < 1213301805 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know the final cloud? < 1213301809 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know the peice of land with the save point? < 1213301813 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the landing you have on to that. < 1213301815 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you land on to it. < 1213301821 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A huge spike thing comes down at you. < 1213301832 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you should do: Jump on to it from the cloud, then jump on to the other peice of land on the left immediately. < 1213301837 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once it's fallen down, jump onto it and go up. < 1213301841 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er < 1213301842 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After saving < 1213301885 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man. I just got past the next screen but a spike came down frmo a cloud on to me. < 1213301885 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitch. < 1213302154 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Which part are you up to? < 1213302158 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because oh man. The next bit sucks. < 1213302164 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm almost up to the first boss, too. < 1213302165 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mike Tyson! < 1213302173 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not playing right now < 1213302202 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: wot! < 1213302264 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading hilarious things. < 1213302269 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.home-school.com/Articles/ < 1213302300 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems they don't like computers much < 1213302316 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And from what I can see, that they never actually had to search for information < 1213302719 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, it is pretty hard getting anywhere as shift doesn't always do the second jump < 1213302724 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should it? < 1213302740 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol : USE MEDIUM MODE < 1213302759 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: thanks good answer < 1213302764 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: heh < 1213302767 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: anyway, read up < 1213302768 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1213302770 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_-^-_ < 1213302772 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a jump < 1213302775 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the point of the second - < 1213302777 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't double-jump < 1213302780 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to do it at the peak or earlier < 1213302784 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To word it in english: < 1213302790 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you start _falling_ after your jump, you can't double jump. < 1213302795 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1213302806 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can you jump if you just fall? < 1213302813 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes < 1213302816 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1213302818 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after you just fall you can do one more jump < 1213302822 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what part are you at? < 1213302838 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just started < 1213302865 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: which path are you going < 1213302868 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :upwards to the cherries? < 1213302869 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should. < 1213302873 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uppie < 1213302876 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1213303392 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213303426 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213303572 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host146-81-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1213303652 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Just as in real education there is a point at which mathematics or chemistry or a foreign language aren't "fun" any more if you actually want to master them." < 1213303657 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck you home schooling < 1213303660 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Science is fun. < 1213303677 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Science involves too much reality for my taste :/ < 1213303678 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Math is very, very fun. < 1213303678 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: I think you're trying to say 'fuck you home-school.com'. < 1213303698 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i were home schooled < 1213303707 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although I may have just not hit that point. Of course, if I hit that point, then it'd probably be in grad school. :p) < 1213303755 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Science isn't fun for them. < 1213303760 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because god said it < 1213303762 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pi = 3 < 1213303792 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, pi ~= 3. (though that is a poor estimate) < 1213303820 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: is there a trick to the room with the invisible blocks? < 1213303830 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: don't go that way < 1213303831 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go upwards < 1213303836 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1213303837 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1213303865 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know i possible, i did the second jump twice already, and the third is equal to that... but it'll take me a week. < 1213303924 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what game is this? < 1213303930 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1213303943 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I Wanna Be The Guy: The Movie: The Game < 1213303994 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine an old school platform game < 1213304001 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now imagine it full of fake difficulty. < 1213304008 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: And love. < 1213304069 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No time for love, tusho < 1213304084 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit < 1213304086 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit < 1213304091 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost was on the last cloud < 1213304091 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey :D < 1213304122 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1213304132 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: GOOGLE < 1213304135 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMNIT! < 1213304248 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: how far are you? < 1213304266 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: when you go up and get got by the spikes < 1213304269 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm at the bit after the spikes < 1213304279 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you're on a platform going left and right and have to avoid spikes by jumping over them < 1213304336 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Evolution Theory Adds No Information to Science" < 1213304347 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is what it all comes down to < 1213304390 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, evolution was recently observed in an E. Coli population in a lab. . . < 1213304414 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The E. Coli evolved the ability to metabolise citrate after a few thousand generations. < 1213304439 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Uh. Isn't it like standard biology class stuff to evolve some bacteria? < 1213304448 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the creationists deny _macro-scale_ evolution. < 1213304453 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not micro-scale. That would be even stupider. < 1213304454 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To that extent? < 1213304457 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1213304494 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.107.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1213304499 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They usually go something like "Well you don't see a dog born to a cat, do you!" < 1213304499 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoopsie. < 1213304503 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the ability to metabolise citrate is a fairly complex ability; that ability is actually used to differentiate between a few different bacteria species) < 1213304532 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol :D < 1213304538 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...me? :o < 1213304539 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because creationism is made for people who have no clue as to what science is. < 1213304543 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you! :o < 1213304544 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1213304545 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Well, a dog is still a dog!" < 1213304585 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah, i just realized. part of it is that people have a sort of built in platonism with regard to types < 1213304605 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so its hard for them to grasp that theres no such thing as A Dog in the first place < 1213304606 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This recently observed thing is like a dog, over many generations, evolving the ability to chew cud. < 1213304636 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT IT IS STILL A DOG :o < 1213304647 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They usually refer to the biblical "kind". < 1213304649 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many dogs chew cud? < 1213304654 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, they have no clue what a kind is. < 1213304656 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: This one. < 1213304657 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1213304671 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sure as hell ain't Canis lupus. < 1213304685 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is a wolf closer to a terrier than a fox. < 1213304689 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps Canis ungulatus? < 1213304711 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah: just because. < 1213304716 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A terrier is Canis lupus domesticus. A wolf is Canis lupus . < 1213304733 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :canis lupus better-than-fucking-dogs-icus < 1213304771 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but you know < 1213304777 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For creationists < 1213304781 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look is everything < 1213304781 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, off I go. < 1213304800 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tumtitum < 1213304882 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1213305062 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213305188 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit < 1213305193 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was on the last cloud < 1213305200 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But moved TOO FAR TO THE LEFT < 1213305202 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Yeah. < 1213305203 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sucks. < 1213305205 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a glitch. < 1213305206 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even know you could fall! < 1213305210 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MORALE: DON'T DO THAT < 1213305277 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: where are you now? < 1213305301 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I shut it down. But I'll start again < 1213305302 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit annoying to wait for 5 minutes for tyson and then die as i have no idea what do to < 1213305312 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: huh? < 1213305319 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shoot him < 1213305322 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1213305323 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1213305326 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SICP is so fucking awesome < 1213305328 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't show he's hurt? < 1213305333 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: he goes ow. < 1213305341 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch a vidyo. < 1213305344 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1213305353 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1213305415 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf where di my parallels winxp go < 1213305433 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i think i hurt him a few times < 1213305483 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah I'm not sure msyelf < 1213305639 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem with this game is, you don't have the time to make a mistake < 1213305649 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Killed (NickServ (Comando GHOST usato da DIO))" < 1213305859 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: you're still at the beginning? < 1213305862 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1213305867 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at i'm for longer :D < 1213305873 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for longer? < 1213305875 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1213305910 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i managed to walk past him! < 1213305915 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once < 1213305922 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What You Should Know About Computer Models Jason Makansi tells us how to tell if a computer projection is likely to be accurate or wildly wrong." < 1213305926 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man. < 1213305930 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is going to be lulz < 1213305944 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also "Going to College at Home Paula Mann shows how you can do it." < 1213306028 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, i know how to pass him now < 1213306034 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... i have no idea how to hurt him. < 1213306047 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you shoot him in the right place < 1213306049 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the right moment < 1213306078 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but what might that be < 1213306085 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MY GO < 1213306085 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D < 1213306087 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I FUCKED UP MY SAVE < 1213306092 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BY SAVING RIGHT WHERE THE LIGHTNING BOLT COMES DOWN < 1213306151 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hurt him!!! < 1213306158 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so cool < 1213306175 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1213306186 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well till mike tyson it was pretty easy < 1213306197 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is prolly easy too, just hard to figure out < 1213306303 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The chief advantage of enrolling in Edison's Guided Study courses or using these books/programs (doing it on the cheap) over your children attending the local community college is that parents can watch videos with their children and point out what is wrong." < 1213306313 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure parents are qualified for such courses. < 1213306355 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I think it's mostly "EVOLUTION IS WRONG" whenever it comes up < 1213306357 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially with this goddamned wait < 1213306366 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully only takes three hits :| < 1213306466 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ifuckinghatetheplatformyouhavetogoonbeforetheroombeforemiketyson < 1213306601 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oh my god < 1213306603 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stars kill you < 1213306604 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck < 1213306607 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is evil < 1213306608 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking game < 1213306623 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Want to rescue people? Forget Final Fantasy 7 - join Civil Air Patrol. Kids as young as 11 can join and participate in real search and rescue." < 1213306630 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's much more exciting. < 1213306635 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting a bit tired, hard is okay, but i hate it when i have no idea what to do < 1213306648 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Stuck on Doom and Quake? Maybe your teen needs to take a hunter safety course and learn what guns are really all about. " < 1213306658 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I hunt giant eyeballs and zombies? < 1213306664 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i know how to get the first hit, but he comes at me totally differently the second time < 1213306667 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck you home school < 1213306667 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Watch a video. < 1213306668 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infuriating < 1213306670 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll tell you how. < 1213306680 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: correction, fuck you home-school.com < 1213306732 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's harder to write < 1213306744 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Wtf. < 1213306747 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of the articles have nothing to do with home schooling < 1213306748 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i found that extremely simple :) < 1213306752 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fall down inthe room before mike tyson < 1213306753 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT MAKES NO SENSE < 1213306754 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just about evolution and global warming. < 1213306777 0 :Corun!n=Corun@cpc1-rdng15-0-0-cust168.winn.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1213306826 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK < 1213306833 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too far to the left again < 1213306835 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol :D < 1213306835 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1213306842 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to be the guy < 1213306845 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck you, guy < 1213306856 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: in the room before mike tyson < 1213306859 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you get on to the last bit < 1213306859 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're nothing but... AN EPIC FAIL GUY < 1213306859 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1213306859 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: < 1213306867 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I can get up to the box that goes down < 1213306869 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not past that < 1213306877 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: jump and shoot < 1213306883 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: shoot what < 1213306886 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :save < 1213306929 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1213306934 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ok < 1213306936 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now for mike tyson < 1213306938 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish me luck < 1213306942 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may have come up with the way to kill that bitch < 1213306944 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1213306946 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck < 1213307002 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wow < 1213307006 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how on earth do you do that < 1213307017 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :timing < 1213307025 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1213307033 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still not easy < 1213307037 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just may know how it's done. < 1213307064 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Died for the second time. < 1213307065 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213307065 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wtf. < 1213307094 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah... < 1213307095 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1213307098 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can give you hints, but try for a while first < 1213307100 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: what < 1213307109 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jls/third_edition/html/lexical.html#3.8 < 1213307111 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :para 6 < 1213307120 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the opportunities < 1213307125 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: which one < 1213307129 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Two identifiers are the same only if they are identical, that is, have the same Unicode character for each letter or digit." < 1213307130 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one? < 1213307134 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so that seems reasonable to me < 1213307135 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1213307138 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1213307151 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am thinking from a malicious PoV < 1213307156 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: how? < 1213307160 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pov? < 1213307168 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose you have a variable called é.... < 1213307201 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have another one that is the same but represented as an e and a combining acute mark... < 1213307222 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Java spec says they must be different variables < 1213307227 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1213307235 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unicode spec says they must look identical < 1213307262 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have seperate variables that are distinguished solely by something that you aren't supposed to be able to see < 1213307338 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COOL < 1213307361 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i got one hit on him < 1213307362 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1213307371 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for fun, you can name everything e, with various accents. < 1213307377 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the best bit... < 1213307377 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's as far as i get too :D < 1213307379 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1213307385 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I fell down a hole he made < 1213307386 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1213307393 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host146-81-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1213307395 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second time really is different, and i have no idea what to do. < 1213307399 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it < 1213307400 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looked the same to me < 1213307403 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your text editor or other text tools might mangle the one representation into the other. < 1213307413 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: so? < 1213307442 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, turning two variables into one often affects the running of a program... < 1213307448 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: And..? < 1213307471 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1213307497 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot to give people context beyond "making code hard to maintain" < 1213307499 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mindprod.com/jgloss/unmain.html < 1213307500 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1213307519 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's good for making obfuscated code < 1213307521 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not _malicious_ < 1213307535 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1213307546 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't make holes before the first hit < 1213307546 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, using my technique < 1213307547 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: firstly, the user would have to edit the source < 1213307551 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ping < 1213307562 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they would also have to use an editor that does that < 1213307563 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: pong < 1213307565 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: moves faster the second time < 1213307571 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: then, they'd have to compile it. < 1213307573 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and run it. < 1213307577 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without reading what it actually does. < 1213307586 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I found that someone was relying on that bit of the spec in production code I would suspect them of trying to sabotage the company < 1213307586 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, they'd have to not notice that you have two variable declarations for the same char. < 1213307591 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, they'd have to not notice that you have two variable declarations for the same char. < 1213307599 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1213307630 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can hide that < 1213307633 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wanna try a different route? < 1213307634 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with scoping < 1213307636 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two more < 1213307637 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose that the chance of a programmer's tools actually turning the one variable into the other are rather slim < 1213307645 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of them is going V down on the first screen < 1213307648 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other is: < 1213307651 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go down twice < 1213307654 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then, when the spike moves away < 1213307657 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jump up again and immediately drop < 1213307660 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spike will go through < 1213307666 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you jump up and walk through the wall < 1213307682 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes, if you are saying what I think you are < 1213307686 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That website makes me lol. < 1213307692 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1213307706 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@AMarseille-151-1-48-6.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1213307722 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Buy a copy of a baby naming book and you’ll never be at a loss for variable names. Fred is a wonderful name, and easy to type." < 1213307737 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you call your variables a, b, c, then it will be impossible to search for instances of them using a simple text editor." < 1213307738 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1213307743 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do that all the time. < 1213307760 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want people maintaining my code :o < 1213307771 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who does < 1213307823 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://membres.lycos.fr/bewulf/Russell/TTT3.4.c < 1213307828 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck you reader of my code < 1213307912 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In naming functions and variables, make heavy use of abstract words like it, everything, data, handle, stuff, do, routine, perform and the digits e.g. routineX48, PerformDataFunction, DoIt, HandleStuff and do_args_method." < 1213307914 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man < 1213307916 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: two hits, and i think i can get infinite hits now < 1213307927 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am so going to do that for my next interpreter < 1213307944 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Real men never define acronyms; they understand them genetically." < 1213307946 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1213307954 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: should I make an awesome game that's just as hard < 1213307957 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1213307959 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i should < 1213307983 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU HAVE TO CLICK A PIXEL-WIDE BUTTON IN THE NEXT SECOND < 1213307995 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: No. :_p < 1213307998 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:-P < 1213307998 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR YOU WILL DIE, AND YOUR SAVES WILL BE ERASED < 1213308015 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less incredibly great timing, more fast reacting < 1213308024 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes < 1213308036 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1213308037 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1213308038 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :things that hone into you < 1213308041 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, circle around you < 1213308047 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to jump around to confuse them < 1213308083 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the kind of thing where nothing is especially hard, but you have to keep moving all the time < 1213308093 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah, mine'll be like that < 1213308105 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the kind this one is, that you get rest all the time, but the single tasks are impossible < 1213308157 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIS523 IF YOU ARE LOGREADING < 1213308166 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_the_lucky_stiff <-- DELETING THIS PAGE IS A TOTALLY SHITTY IDEA. < 1213308174 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HE'S INCREDIBLY WELL KNOWN IN THE RUBY COMMUNITY (WHICH HAS LATELY GROWN HUGE). < 1213308182 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T BE STUPID AND STOP THEM. K. < 1213308184 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :END AIS523 NOTE < 1213308197 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Easy ways to get in touch with wikipedia administrators #1, that is) < 1213308204 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaanyway < 1213308212 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: mine will have music generated to how you're playing < 1213308213 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1213308330 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1213308347 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213308373 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what did you last hear < 1213308398 0 :Corun!n=Corun@cpc1-rdng15-0-0-cust168.winn.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1213308408 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :music generation + smiley < 1213308413 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that's the last thing then < 1213308414 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, game crashed :D < 1213308424 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just got the second hit < 1213308460 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1213308464 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i disco again? < 1213308473 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah < 1213308482 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: :D < 1213308482 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:06] oklopol left the chat room. (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) < 1213308482 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:06] oklopol joined the chat room. < 1213308519 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"chat room"? < 1213308524 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hungarian Notation is the tactical nuclear weapon of source code obfuscation techniques; use it! " < 1213308525 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1213308525 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant again again < 1213308534 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Colloquy is stupid. < 1213308547 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it handles SILC and some other protocols too, so maybe that's why. < 1213308552 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ah, then no < 1213308553 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1213308566 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my game will literally randomly generate a soundtrack based on how you're moving < 1213308567 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1213308606 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :third time, it's even faster < 1213308608 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun! < 1213308628 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If a maintenance programmer can’t quote entire Monty Python movies from memory, he or she has no business being a programmer." < 1213308659 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: PAY ATTENTION TO ME < 1213308659 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1213308684 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, playing :) < 1213308702 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :generating music is a great idea, and you should do it < 1213308708 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...now. < 1213308746 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: AND I WILL! < 1213308803 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: not much of an AI... < 1213308811 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still neat < 1213308815 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: ? < 1213308823 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :his program < 1213308831 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wot < 1213308846 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, not his program < 1213308855 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:57:03 < Slereah7> http://membres.lycos.fr/bewulf/Russell/TTT3.4.c < 1213308868 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it < 1213308879 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ascii codes for the messages are a bit gratuitous though < 1213308883 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: read it and find out < 1213308891 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: moar like: run it < 1213308900 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :function g() is a big hint < 1213308908 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wowzers < 1213308913 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: i don't think Slereah7 wrote that though < 1213308919 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't get it after reading g, read h < 1213308923 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: no < 1213308947 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, I just beat the computer. < 1213308947 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1213308954 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 5 9. < 1213308958 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC : The strings would give away the program! < 1213308968 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so he did write it < 1213308971 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I wrote it. < 1213308981 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a tic tac toe game < 1213308983 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: a tic-tac-toe AI is so simple you can just write it as a transition table < 1213308984 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1213308989 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and include it right there in the source < 1213308990 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a string < 1213308997 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1213309007 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"_____________O____" < 1213309013 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is empty board -> put in middle < 1213309038 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I could have done more obfuscated, I suppose < 1213309038 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay thue < 1213309051 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: hah, yeah, you could write a tic-tac-toe in thue pretty easily! < 1213309061 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like filling the arrays with any numbers, then do arithmetics on them or whatever < 1213309066 0 :oklofok!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213309074 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, note : there is a goto in there. < 1213309082 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People don't use enough goto in C. < 1213309089 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1213309098 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yyyeah. < 1213309103 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: getting back from the tyson room is harder than tyson. < 1213309110 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: lawl < 1213309112 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1213309113 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely "not enough" is the expression i was thinking of. < 1213309121 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: it's obfuscated code. < 1213309142 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Document the obvious < 1213309142 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :: Pepper the code with comments like /* add 1 to i */ however, never document wooly stuff like the overall purpose of the package or method. < 1213309144 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1213309167 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what c needs < 1213309169 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :intra-procedure gotos < 1213309177 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x(){A:goto B;}y(){B:goto A;} < 1213309183 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if they don't actually change the call stack < 1213309184 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome < 1213309185 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :observe < 1213309214 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the jump from the save point to the falling piece is next to impossible < 1213309214 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x(int i){return i+1;A:return i*2;}y(int j){int i=x(j);goto A;} < 1213309216 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1213309227 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is equiv. to: < 1213309241 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y(int i){return (i+1)*2} < 1213309290 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen beter than that in Forth... < 1213309313 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: but it's more fun if you have a regular c program that just goto's to some other procedure < 1213309317 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disparage In the Comments < 1213309318 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :: Discourage any attempt to use external maintenance contractors by peppering your code with insulting references to other leading software companies, especially anyone who might be contracted to do the work. < 1213309325 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen a legitimately-used jump from run-time into compile-time < 1213309358 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :: foo create ... begin ... does> ... again ... ; < 1213309379 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: i stopped, getting a bit late < 1213309387 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you prolly stopped ages ago < 1213309389 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it creates words that create words that ... and so on forever < 1213309774 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find a Forth or APL Guru < 1213309774 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In those worlds, the terser your code and the more bizarre the way it works, the more you are revered. < 1213309814 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I am currently doing stuff with colorForth < 1213309824 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that really really emphasizes simplicity < 1213309919 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In C, the effects of pre/post decrement code such as < 1213309919 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*++b ? (*++b + *(b-1)) : 0 < 1213309919 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are not defined by the language spec. Every compiler is free to evaluate in a different order. This makes them doubly deadly. < 1213309922 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1213309957 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually... < 1213309992 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose a compiler keeps track of what to increment and decrement by setting flags on its data about variables... < 1213310006 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a++ + a++ could plausibly just increment a once < 1213310017 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: in gcc, a++ + a++ DOES only increment once I think < 1213310035 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nifty < 1213310059 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, in old GCCs, any #pragma would cause the compiler to start nethack < 1213310065 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could easily believe an implementation that increments twice. < 1213310078 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Use the fuzziest, vaguest most general terminology you can come up with, especially for variable names. handle is a great example — a handle to what? processData is a great method name. Was there ever a method written that could not be so described? It cleverly hides any clue to what it does behind a cloud of ambiguity." < 1213310083 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: wrong < 1213310088 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it started towers of hanoi in emacs < 1213310096 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1213310113 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall it had some fallbacks too < 1213310124 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1213310125 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1213310144 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Leaving bugs in your programs gives the maintenance programmer who comes along later something interesting to do. A well done bug should leave absolutely no clue as to when it was introduced or where. The laziest way to accomplish this is simply never to test your code." < 1213310157 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This man was probably not loved much in his company. < 1213310191 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1213310199 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how would people know that the bugs were his? < 1213310208 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows! < 1213310312 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computer languages are gradually evolving to become more fool proof. Using state of the art languages is unmanly. Insist on using the oldest language you can get away with, octal machine language if you can (Like Hans und Frans, I am no girlie man; I am so virile I used to code by plugging gold tipped wires into a plugboard of IBM unit record equipment (punch cards), or by poking holes in paper tape with a hand punch), failing t < 1213310361 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sprinkle your code with bits of inline assembler just for fun. Almost no one understands assembler anymore. Even a few lines of it can stop a maintenance programmer cold." < 1213310366 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only I could program! < 1213310371 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have so much fun < 1213310404 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1213310411 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone can program < 1213310438 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but, you know < 1213310441 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Program well < 1213310454 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know most functions or whatever < 1213310477 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Be never vigilant of the next Y2K. If you ever spot something that could sneak up on a fixed deadline and destroy all life in the western hemisphere then do not openly discuss it until we are under the critical 4 year event window of panic and opportunity." < 1213310522 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: you don't know most functions? < 1213310527 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :manuals / make them yourself < 1213310543 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Rest assured that we all see the threat too. Sleep sound at night knowing that long after you’ve been forced into early retirement you will be begged to come back at a logarithmically increased hourly rate!" < 1213310545 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i program almost exclusively python, and i haven't read the standard functions lies < 1213310548 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*list < 1213310553 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't just mean that. < 1213310561 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to say this. < 1213310578 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beside computation/output/input, I don't know much. < 1213310599 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm terrible at file handling, and more complicated things, I do not know < 1213310620 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :file handling is done like the api tells you to < 1213310629 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called copy paste < 1213310657 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :api? < 1213310681 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed < 1213310958 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: well giyf, but application programming interface < 1213311024 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back. < 1213311107 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it reasonable to google "api"? < 1213311122 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it is apparently < 1213311129 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But googling TLA isn't always. < 1213311160 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You don’t need great skill to write unmaintainable code. Just leap in and start coding. Keep in mind that management still measures productivity in lines of code even if you have to delete most of it later." < 1213311164 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a relief < 1213311200 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Google 'python manual' < 1213311202 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read the section on files. < 1213311232 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read sum python manual < 1213311254 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But sometimes, I just have no idea what it is talking about. < 1213311270 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: Then read it again. < 1213311371 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213311434 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1213311493 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1213311645 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1213311648 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is another way of interpreting this essay, as a terrorist manual." < 1213311726 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are millions of ways to insidiously corrupt data and program source. America is a sitting duck for a patient terrorist with a small bank account and a copy of this essay." < 1213311729 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O noes! < 1213311892 0 :dak!n=dak@host55-85-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1213312000 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1213312309 0 :Corun!n=Corun@cpc1-rdng15-0-0-cust168.winn.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1213312423 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1213312975 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1213313376 0 :Corun!n=Corun@cpc1-rdng15-0-0-cust168.winn.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric