< 1211760674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: So < 1211760677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infd5iar < 1211760677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1211760700 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, now sleep < 1211760711 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@end < 1211760711 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ending current game. < 1211760723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: lies < 1211761048 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, who's this inf-anf-oh? < 1211761203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: A bawt. < 1211761205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@join < 1211761205 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird joined the game. < 1211761212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: @join-er-ate it. < 1211761234 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@join < 1211761234 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope joined the game. < 1211761239 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@start < 1211761239 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Number of players not an integer greater than one. < 1211761245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@start 2 < 1211761245 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Starting game with players: ehird and ihope. < 1211761251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: It's infinite-D tic tac toe < 1211761253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@move 1 2 3 4 5 < 1211761253 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird succesfully added a piece. < 1211761261 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oof. < 1211761262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: Basically, any finite length list of co-ords is cyclec. < 1211761264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cycled < 1211761268 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@move 1 2 3 4 < 1211761268 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope succesfully added a piece. < 1211761270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: And you have two speshul syntaxes: < 1211761273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : range < 1211761277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : range with c as step < 1211761278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one more < 1211761281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a b c] < 1211761285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'for each thing named a in b' < 1211761286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'do c' < 1211761287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1211761294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a <1 50> {5 a}] < 1211761297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: goes < 1211761305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{5 1 5 2 5 3 .. 5 50 5 1} < 1211761307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: etc < 1211761312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@move 1 2 3 4 6 < 1211761312 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird succesfully added a piece. < 1211761315 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. < 1211761320 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@mvoe 1 2 3 4 7 < 1211761325 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@movee 1 2 3 4 7 < 1211761328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: er, when I said tic tac toe < 1211761330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant five in a row < 1211761332 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@move 1 2 3 4 7 < 1211761332 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope succesfully added a piece. < 1211761343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@move 1 2 3 5 6 < 1211761343 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird succesfully added a piece. < 1211761351 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@move 1 < 1211761351 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope succesfully added a piece. < 1211761360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@move 1 2 3 3 6 < 1211761360 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird succesfully added a piece. < 1211761388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: yer turn < 1211761391 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@move [a <1 50> [b <1 50> {a b}]] < 1211761397 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope succesfully added a piece. < 1211761408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@move 1 2 3 1 6 < 1211761408 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird succesfully added a piece. < 1211761416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oshit < 1211761420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not actually doing 5 in a row here < 1211761420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i < 1211761427 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm, I have to go. < 1211761434 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea. :-P < 1211761440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: DUN GO < 1211761441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1211761467 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have homework. < 1211761497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine. < 1211761497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1211761498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@end < 1211761499 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ending current game. < 1211761502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: It's oklopol's btw. < 1211761515 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool. < 1211762514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so. < 1211762515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :butter. < 1211763104 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!n=chatzill@host86-148-60-193.range86-148.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1211763171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UnrelatedToQaz: BECOME QAZ < 1211763173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Qaz < 1211763175 0 :Qaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D'aww. < 1211763176 0 :Qaz!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird < 1211763211 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't the title be something like "(international hub) for (esoteric (programming languages))"? < 1211763216 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or have I missed something < 1211763218 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1211763220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UnrelatedToQaz: Probably. < 1211763221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fix it. < 1211763228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UnrelatedToQaz: Also, Qaz is used on one place: wikipedia < 1211763229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sux < 1211763229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1211763238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want that name. < 1211763238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha. < 1211763241 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Well, I wouldn't know. < 1211763245 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm totally unrelated. < 1211763256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UnrelatedToQaz: Are you the wikipedia qaz? < 1211763258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say yes. :P < 1211763267 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1211763269 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm totally unrelated. < 1211763276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UnrelatedToQaz: Apart from making a joke out of your nick. < 1211763282 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the wikipedia IslandHopper973. < 1211763291 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn...my secret identity... < 1211763293 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOO < 1211763319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :tozogt < 1211763329 0 :tozogt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UnrelatedToQaz: This magic nickname will help me get qaz! < 1211763335 0 :tozogt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ehird has already claimed too many nicks in #freenode) < 1211763403 0 :tozogt!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Qaz < 1211763430 0 :Qaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHAAHAHHAHA < 1211763431 0 :Qaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT IS MINE < 1211763438 0 :Qaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WOULD USE THIS EVERYWHERE IF A WIKIPEDIA-FAG HADN'T TAKEN IT < 1211763439 0 :Qaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1211763442 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weren't you Qaz before? < 1211763451 0 :Qaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UnrelatedToQaz: Yes, but it was registered. < 1211763468 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is enlightened < 1211763492 0 :Qaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, the wp guy is the _only_ guy using Qaz I can find < 1211763495 0 :Qaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, I kinda like WP. < 1211763499 0 :Qaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can't use this nick everywhere < 1211763508 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :(international hub) for (esoteric (programming languages)) ^D http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric ^D^D < 1211763514 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1211763521 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just gonna check if it's worked... < 1211763523 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1211763527 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!n=chatzill@host86-148-60-193.range86-148.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1211763536 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, it's good. < 1211763703 0 :Qaz!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :UnrelatedtoaxqzUnrelatedtoaxqzUnrelatedtoaxqzUnrelatedtoaxqz http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric < 1211763707 0 :Qaz!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird < 1211763878 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's axqz? < 1211763974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UnrelatedToQaz: dunno? < 1211764000 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you're the one who changed the topic to show that this thread is unrelated to e < 1211764009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UnrelatedToQaz: :) < 1211764029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric : http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric < 1211764055 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ... < 1211764153 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :UnrelatedToEhird http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric < 1211764169 0 :AnMaster_!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1211764209 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :-- This topic is certified UnrelatedToEhird -- Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric -- < 1211764219 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1211764222 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!n=chatzill@host86-148-60-193.range86-148.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1211764388 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That done... < 1211764401 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's getting late. < 1211764409 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1.13am, by my clock) < 1211764416 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I had better get to bed. < 1211764427 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using a warm fuzzy thing as a pillow of course < 1211764434 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lovely haskell) < 1211764449 0 :UnrelatedToQaz!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1211764817 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1211764871 0 :timotiis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1211765850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye for today :-) < 1211765870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1211766528 0 :Slereah!n=slerjeah@ANantes-252-1-61-189.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1211766551 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1211767250 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. The phrase "international hub for esoteric programming languages" is really just the word "hub" with "international" and "for esoteric programming languages" tacked on. In the phrase "for esoteric programming languages", you have the indicator thingy, "for", followed by "esoteric programming languages", which is "esoteric" and "programming" tacked onto "languages". < 1211767257 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION congratulates himself < 1211767301 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you were to reduce that phrase fully, you'd have "hub"; expand it a bit and you get "international hub for languages", then "international hub for programming languages", then "international hub for esoteric programming languages". < 1211767777 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1211767988 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(international ((esoteric (programming language)) hub)) is the whole description tree < 1211767999 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a b) is b, with a as a descriptor < 1211768019 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can always drop a, because (a b) is always, b, and a is just additional information. < 1211768048 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION congratulates himself < 1211768141 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HUB < 1211771033 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(international hub [for (esoteric (programming languages))]) < 1211771136 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe better: hub [for (languages programming esoteric)] international < 1211771268 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[This (is [a sentence])]. [You (like do ([this sentence] [of mine]))]? < 1211771373 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for is not important there < 1211771398 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is just another way to attach information to "international hub" < 1211771435 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case just "international esoteric programming language hub" is unambiguous enough < 1211771466 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it weren't, using that structure for a sentence with for is a bit too englishish to be a formalization < 1211771471 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the "for" still exists. < 1211771485 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not after formalization; I'm after description. Or something. < 1211771494 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :description? < 1211771503 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you were breaking it down < 1211771513 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for" doesn't carry meaning there < 1211771547 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well technically it does, but not important here) < 1211771569 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm breaking it down, kind of detailing all the grammatical constructs. "For" is part of a grammatical construct. < 1211771580 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure < 1211771582 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1211771606 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This (is [a sentence])]. [You (like do ([this sentence] [of mine]))] can you help me with the meanings of () and []? < 1211771715 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, () is just used for grouping things together into phrases. "Phrase1 phrase2" functions as phrase1 with phrase2 somehow modifying it. [Phrase1 phrase2] is some other construct that behaves as neither phrase1 nor phrase2; maybe phrase1 is always an "indicator word" like "for" and phrase2 is always something of meaning. < 1211772749 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Konversation terminated!" < 1211780942 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=arbels@219-89-41-219.dialup.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1211782610 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"zomg" < 1211782853 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@adsl-99-154-11-184.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1211783899 0 :Slereah!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-61-189.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1211783907 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello sirs < 1211783942 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you have any sort of idea as of why, with my reinstallation of windows and the NVIDIA pilot, I'm currently in 16 colors, without the possibility to go higher < 1211783967 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had more colors *before* installing the pilot, for some reason < 1211784085 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck. < 1211784090 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate reinstalling windows. < 1211784704 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1211787700 0 :Slereah_!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-61-189.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1211788799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1211788800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1211788882 0 :AnMaster_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :AnMaster < 1211788945 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, WHAT? was that highlight for? < 1211789537 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)" < 1211790913 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1211792849 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1211793296 0 :jix!n=jix@paed-gw.schule.bremen.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1211793376 0 :Iskr!n=i@host11-56-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1211794092 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1211794739 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1211798083 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Unisex." < 1211798161 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1211798168 0 :jix!n=jix@paed-gw.schule.bremen.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1211799107 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1211801832 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it was about playing inf-anf-oh < 1211801850 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, and what is that? < 1211801938 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the great thing about this channel is i can explain anything as many times as i like :D < 1211801967 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's < 1211801969 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@end < 1211801970 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ending current game. < 1211801973 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@join < 1211801973 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol joined the game. < 1211802019 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1211802108 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you gotta join, don't you? < 1211802236 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no time < 1211802265 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if anyone has given any thought to this at all, but as i've explained a few times, the row of 5 doesn't need to be actually adjacent pieces (so where for each element L of the distance vector L = 0 | L = -1 | L = 1), which constraint 2d5iar has < 1211802270 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was just wondering < 1211802277 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you add a piece < 1211802286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*blink* < 1211802289 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is automatically "next to" infinity pieces < 1211802300 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pieces? < 1211802303 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of what? < 1211802304 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm pretty sure the game is trivial. < 1211802310 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's 5-in-a-row < 1211802323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean scrabble or whatever it is called in English? < 1211802325 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is an infinite-dimensional space < 1211802344 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can add "pieces", meaning you can color one of these points to your color each turn < 1211802353 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1211802355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, tic-tac-toe or whatever that name is in English? < 1211802356 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that i think of it < 1211802380 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe Othello? < 1211802382 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think infinite dimensional 5iar might be analogous to 5iar played on the complex plane < 1211802402 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: tic-tac-toe, except infinite grid and 5 in a row instead of 3 < 1211802417 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can you overwrite other ppl? < 1211802420 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1211802432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok not like Othello then < 1211802438 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1211802445 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :othello has nothing to do with rows < 1211802459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? true, you convert in lines iirc < 1211802473 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the surrounding rules have to do with rows < 1211802473 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, anyway what about complex number plane what on earth has that got to do tic-tac-toe? < 1211802482 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the *goal* has nothing to do with rows < 1211802487 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well < 1211802497 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you usually play 5iar on < 1211802499 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so esoteric involving complex numbers with a very simple game like that, hehehe) < 1211802503 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the (Int, Int) plane < 1211802555 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aye, a Cartesian coordinate system < 1211802566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with whole numbers only < 1211802582 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a 5-in-a-row is a 5-tuple (a,b,c,d,e) of pieces of your color where for some (n!=(0,0) and for each i in n: i is one of (-1,0,1)), a+4n = b+3n = c+2n = d+n = e < 1211802609 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well n is a 2-tuple ofc < 1211802622 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean, in a row < 1211802625 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well 2d vector really, addition is mapped over axis ofc < 1211802626 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1211802634 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1211802639 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you mean, in a row"? < 1211802650 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you asking the reason for the formalization? < 1211802662 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, well no this *is* #esoteric < 1211802670 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the formalization is necessary < 1211802681 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because now it's trivial to explain how to play on the real plane < 1211802702 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can insert a piece *anywhere* on the plane < 1211802724 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean at 3.1415 too? < 1211802737 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x=pi y=2e < 1211802740 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes < 1211802749 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a 5-in-a-row is what it is in a normal 5iar, except n can be *any* 2-tuple < 1211802750 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my < 1211802755 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except (0,0) < 1211802762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, why not 0,0? < 1211802771 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (0,0) was allowed, you'd win on the first turn < 1211802782 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, anyway what about (inf,inf)? < 1211802783 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because (a,a,a,a,a) is a 5-in-a-row then < 1211802794 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inf is not a number < 1211802806 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I insert at (NaN,3) < 1211802809 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1211802810 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1211802820 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i did specify it's just *reals* < 1211802821 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1211802824 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1211802825 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i said it's anything < 1211802827 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but just reals. < 1211802842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, at exactly (pi,e) ;D < 1211802847 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in reality, you have to have some "explanation scheme" for the reals you can actually use < 1211802854 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you cannot explain all reals < 1211802860 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1211802883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway irrational numbers will be fun in this < 1211802890 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reals are innumerable < 1211802896 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1211802900 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you use floating point? < 1211802913 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bit too restrictive < 1211802921 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what do the program use? < 1211802933 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably some clever number type, dunno < 1211802948 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually... < 1211802963 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1*10^-5834^-4747583934 < 1211802964 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1211802969 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, even better < 1211802972 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at: < 1211802978 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A(G,G),A(G,G)) < 1211802981 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think playing 5iar on a 1-d real range is less restrictive than my current infinite dimensional one, even if you just have cyclic stuff. < 1211802994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A is Ackermann's function, G is Graham's number < 1211802995 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1211803013 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would insert there < 1211803056 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck making a program that can handle that < 1211803092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :float wouldn't work anyway, because you could always insert at smaller resolution than double or whatever can handle < 1211803127 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1211803138 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it has a way to calculate A and G, you can just store the calculation < 1211803154 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it doesn't, there's no way you insert that < 1211803411 0 :Slereah_!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-61-189.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1211803462 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1211803617 0 :jix!n=jix@paed-gw.schule.bremen.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1211803665 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, it would be a too huge number to write out in this universe < 1211803668 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1211803744 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wot? < 1211803757 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you talking about Unary? < 1211803873 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1211803874 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, err no? < 1211803878 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, < 1211803879 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (A(G,G),A(G,G)) < 1211803882 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : A is Ackermann's function, G is Graham's number < 1211803914 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, oklopol is planning(?) some kind of 5-in-a-row on the real number plane < 1211804121 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :G alone is too big to write already. < 1211804140 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5-in-a-row? < 1211804507 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, something like tic-tac-toe < 1211804544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with 5 instead < 1211804597 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1211804646 0 :inf-anf-oh!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1211804971 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1211804995 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't a Tic Tac Toe on the real plane be infinitely long? < 1211805020 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or extremely short, actually < 1211805041 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you can't exhaust the way to put 5, in a row < 1211805047 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the first player wins < 1211805939 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host242-92-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1211813081 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-039-056.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1211813514 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1211813555 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-039-056.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1211813597 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1211813896 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host242-92-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1211814460 0 :timotiis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1211816027 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it's like a five-in-a-row in infinite-dimensional space, isn't it? < 1211816088 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? < 1211816097 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The word "plane" would make you think not < 1211816159 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would sound like "Put a cross anywhere on a map" < 1211816183 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since you can't exhaust any row, it would be pretty easy to win. Or lose. < 1211816205 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if it's in a discrete infinite dimensional space, who knows. < 1211816234 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should also prolly be of finite extent, otherwise you fall into the same problem again < 1211816274 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you need to have a row uninterrupted by the other guy < 1211816275 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1211816573 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@88-107-118-97.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1211816782 0 :ais523!n=ais523@pw01-fap01.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1211816933 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.77.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1211817114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1211817193 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.77.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1211817198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1211817206 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ehird < 1211817254 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1211817266 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you like to make some cool money, ehird? < 1211817273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: Yes. < 1211817276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want help with php maila? < 1211817285 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have this daring mission. < 1211817292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh lord, have we got _another_ #esoteric meme?) < 1211817300 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where you will need to hack into a bakery, to get some cake. < 1211817313 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not everyday we get a good laugh like this! < 1211817316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: I am very experience with hack. < 1211817325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the specification? < 1211817340 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which bit of that is the new meme? < 1211817347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: all of it! < 1211817348 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_ and the delicious cake? < 1211817356 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1211817360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: mikemorg came in here asking for hackers to do 'buziness' < 1211817361 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Nigerian scammer < 1211817365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he was from nigeria, apparently < 1211817370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, he wanted me to hack a bank or something < 1211817377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and he kept asking for help with 'php maila' < 1211817384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably an anonymous mailing script written in php. < 1211817387 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to be racist, but it's hard with all those Nigerian conmen. < 1211817490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:33:47 Hmm, it's like a five-in-a-row in infinite-dimensional space, isn't it? < 1211817491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1211817537 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? < 1211817561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1211817590 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it on the real plane and all as advertised? < 1211817623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess so < 1211817669 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would this work? < 1211817722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cleverly < 1211817724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@end < 1211817728 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1211817730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not here < 1211817873 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip24-255-58-177.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1211817903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1211817905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Factor is interesting < 1211817913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esp. how well it does unicode < 1211819572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: #rootnomic? Can't /invite, I don't have ops. < 1211821470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TODAY, CHILDREN: How to make python code make no sense at al < 1211821473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, False = False, True < 1211821479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it works. < 1211821484 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1211821497 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some FORTRAN-quality obfuscation, right there < 1211821627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: in smalltalk you can do: < 1211821629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true become: false < 1211821633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and *every* true value becomes false < 1211821637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the true object literally morphs into false < 1211821642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Then, it promptly crashes. < 1211821653 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1211821655 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Killed (NickServ (Comando GHOST usato da DIO))" < 1211821678 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Intercal's "PLEASE ABSTAIN FROM ABSTAINING", but that's kindof a different idea < 1211821687 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: and reversible, too < 1211821736 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to do "(define #t #f)" in scheme? < 1211821739 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta try it now < 1211821746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: no < 1211821751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#t is a special reader form < 1211821756 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in INTERCAL, it's possible to write DO #2 <- #1 < 1211821756 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw, damnit < 1211821757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides it would be set! < 1211821761 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I just tried it < 1211821763 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it actually works < 1211821777 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (define #t #f) < 1211821778 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stdin::0: define: bad syntax at: #t in: (define #t #f) < 1211821779 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but C-INTERCAL requires a compiler switch to let you do that, it's in a sort of safe mode by default where you can't change constants < 1211821786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: what scheme do you use? < 1211821794 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mzscheme, currently < 1211821824 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Welcome to MzScheme v372 [3m], Copyright (c) 2004-2007 PLT Scheme Inc." < 1211821852 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1211821857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking maybe guile or somethign else horrid < 1211821900 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the DrScheme package- it has a great OSX version, and I have it installed on my linux machine, too < 1211822335 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION listens to ais523's radio interview < 1211822357 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't all that interesting, really, but it wasn't a disaster < 1211822367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: oooh what < 1211822369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1211822380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what I focused #esoteric for - anyone here like http://www.pixelcomic.net/? < 1211822388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very silly, it sounds like something i would write < 1211822393 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I didn't realise that link was still available < 1211822394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the uppercase starts to hurt your eyes after a while htough < 1211822395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*though < 1211822423 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_7170000/newsid_7179500?redirect=7179544.stm&news=1&nbram=1&bbwm=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1 < 1211822428 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about half-way through < 1211822436 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it was a gripping interview < 1211822437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1211822445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'so, you found the smallest turing machine in wolframs notation!' < 1211822448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'how EXCITING' < 1211822457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'how do you think this will effect every day life?' < 1211822462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'um...er....uh...' < 1211822467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*affect < 1211822482 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall that the proof was a bit contraversial. < 1211822506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: it was, but, by about 3 people. < 1211822525 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't like the required pre-processing < 1211822546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. but they're silly < 1211822549 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1211822555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, how on earth do you make the wolfram proof a radio interview? < 1211822559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just can't see it < 1211822561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[can't listen atm] < 1211822591 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: BTW, how constructive is your proof? < 1211822628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird` < 1211822629 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's about as constructive as they get; I'm not sure. < 1211822635 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird < 1211822647 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: very constructive < 1211822660 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only the construction is infinitely long < 1211822797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeek SimonRC < 1211822801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that for < 1211822807 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out the command finally < 1211822812 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hah < 1211822815 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remeber the hacker < 1211822815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: you do know we have public logs < 1211822818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see topic < 1211822836 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yeah, but I have logs with 1-second accuracy *and* logs of the privmsgs < 1211822846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: :-P < 1211822863 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :accept or deny as you wish < 1211822879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did < 1211822940 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1211823065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf SimonRC < 1211823065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1211823097 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, wrong button < 1211823146 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1211823164 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1211823367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fucking hell SimonRC. < 1211823502 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1211823511 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it seems to be auto-repeating < 1211823582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK YOU WITH A RAKE SIMONRC < 1211823583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< < 1211823597 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I think they should be gone now < 1211823602 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was a bad idea < 1211823648 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION guesses that dcc sends pop up a modal dialog for ehird. < 1211823680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, xchat < 1211823684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not modal < 1211823685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but annoying < 1211823699 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1211823713 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can only abort one send at a time < 1211823729 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that immediately causes the following one to be started < 1211823871 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, what happened? SimonRC dcc'd a lot of information to ehird and couldn't stop it? < 1211823924 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1211824078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASJHKJDFHAJLSDFHAKSDJFASDF < 1211824082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY MOUSE IS WORKING CRAP :\ < 1211824090 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is your caps lock, I see < 1211824092 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not your keyboard < 1211824261 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@AMarseille-151-1-34-103.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1211824396 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, mysterious person < 1211824531 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what order are the bytes of a 4-byte x86 word? < 1211824542 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lsB first, I think < 1211824550 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :big-, little-, or middle-endian? < 1211824554 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :little- < 1211824555 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, little < 1211824566 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason I was suspecting that they were middle- < 1211824569 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not completely certain, but I think that's right < 1211824584 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you look at them with a debugger, though, they often look middle-endian < 1211824584 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing some low-level stuff < 1211824593 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it tries to convert little-endian to big-endian for display < 1211824593 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great fun < 1211824599 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but does it at the 32-bit level < 1211824605 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/32/16/ < 1211824608 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1211826325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you use ubuntu, which is based on debian. so, is there an easy way to get ff3rc1? < 1211826328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wondering if you knew < 1211826339 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes, wait for them to package it < 1211826352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um, no. i'm on debian stable. You can see the problem here. < 1211826360 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ironically, at the time RC1 came out, the Ubuntu developers responsible were at a conference or something like that < 1211826373 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you'd have to grab a .deb and install it manually < 1211826375 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using dpkg < 1211826379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I can't find one :-P < 1211826385 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that, or recompile from source in /usr/local < 1211826403 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the reason you can't find one is because the responisble devs were at a conference < 1211826407 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no doubt they'll package it soon < 1211826444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I can't use an ubuntu deb. < 1211826448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on debina < 1211826449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*debian < 1211826690 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, not even an ubuntu source package? < 1211826704 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should recompile on debian just as easily as they do on ubuntu < 1211826843 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: BTW, what do you think of my latest Mad Scientist proposal? < 1211826853 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks really game-changing, but is actually a NOP < 1211826860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it shouldn't, because they have different deps. < 1211826886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and how is that a nop? < 1211826892 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hm, what? < 1211826899 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, a nomic < 1211826904 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's impossible to define a win condition unless the rule doing so has a power of at least 2 < 1211826908 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I said this in the wrong channel < 1211826913 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I was in #ircnomic < 1211826925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oooooooooh < 1211826928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get the monster rule to power 2!!! < 1211826931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get much winnies < 1211826976 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: forcible move of thread to #ircnomic < 1211827634 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1211827682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHAH: < 1211827682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We asked the oracle, “What would life be like without THE MONSTER?” ...and the oracle responded: “asdf” < 1211827743 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, what? < 1211827748 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: nothing < 1211829173 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1211829183 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-058-122.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1211830264 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-79-136-60-96.NA.cust.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1211830295 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.2meta.com/april-fools/1991/Unix-C-Hoax.html < 1211830339 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like as old as 1991! ...wait < 1211830518 0 :timotiis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1211830623 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1211831073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :(:NAME "#esoteric" :TYPE (INTERNATIONAL-HUB (PROGRAMMING-LANGUAGES ESOTERIC)) :LOGS "http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric") < 1211831865 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1211832897 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1211833829 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1211836073 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1211836079 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@AMarseille-151-1-34-103.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1211839461 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1211840051 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1211841448 0 :Corun_!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1211841456 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1211843185 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzzzzzzzzzzz < 1211843197 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1211843248 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what part of "zzzzzzzzzzz" don't you understand? < 1211843259 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fifth z < 1211843264 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means I'm going to bed. < 1211843268 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1211843270 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night < 1211843271 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm slightly dubious on the eigthth too < 1211843275 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night < 1211843565 0 :Iskr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1211843874 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: personally the 7th made me suspicious < 1211843906 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why, is it really a different Unicode character disguised as a z? < 1211844179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1211845570 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1211845971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: perlnomic is a turtle < 1211846141 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"(1) DO COME FROM ".2~.2"~#1 WHILE :1 <- "'?.1$.2'~'"':1/.1$.2'~#0"$#65535'"$"'"'&.1$.2'~'#0$#65535'"$#0'~#32767$#1""