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I will give you an absurd amount of points (number of your choosing) if you join #ircnomic and say 'FOR evil'. 01:19:37 i think you must have misunderstood my comment. i did not say i considered #ircnomic points to have high value :/ 01:20:14 oerjan: oh I know 01:20:17 I'm just trying to bribe you 01:28:08 oerjan: plzzz 01:28:11 oerjan: 3 minutes to go 01:28:12 :<< 01:28:18 oerjan: This is even an interesting scam 01:29:06 oerjan: pleeeez 01:31:07 -!- Sgeo has joined. 01:38:41 -!- Slereah- has joined. 01:38:42 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 01:49:03 -!- Corun has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep"). 02:31:29 << 02:31:30 What is "Legend of Z.e.l.d.a."? 02:31:30 What is "NES"? 02:31:30 Edit: not kidding... 02:31:30 >> 02:31:32 -- reddit comment 02:39:07 -!- atsampso1 has joined. 02:40:03 -!- atsampson has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 03:20:49 Bye for today :-) 03:22:09 -!- ehird has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 03:23:03 -!- oerjan has quit ("Good night"). 04:42:31 -!- revcompgeek has joined. 04:46:50 -!- revcompgeek has quit (Client Quit). 05:20:49 -!- Judofyr has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 06:31:28 -!- oklofyug has joined. 06:42:20 -!- Judofyr has joined. 06:58:36 G'night all 06:59:17 -!- Sgeo has quit ("Ex-Chat"). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:02:24 -!- jix has joined. 08:20:38 -!- Iskr has joined. 08:32:00 -!- Corun has joined. 08:32:12 http://www.codu.org/imgs/win3plusplus.png // CONSIDER YOUR MINDS BLOWN 08:34:08 -!- Corun has quit (Client Quit). 10:17:16 -!- sebbu has joined. 10:17:38 -!- Phenax has quit (SendQ exceeded). 11:33:58 -!- atsampso1 has changed nick to atsampson. 11:55:15 -!- Corun has joined. 12:07:56 Pop quiz! "Thy" is olde english for "your"... How does one say "I"? Particularly "I am fine" or "I'm OK" 12:25:19 -!- timotiis has joined. 12:36:51 -!- Judofyr has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 12:37:16 -!- Judofyr has joined. 12:45:42 -!- Corun has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep"). 14:21:49 -!- jix has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 14:40:03 -!- Judofyr has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 14:40:20 -!- Judofyr has joined. 15:22:35 -!- sekhmet has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 15:43:18 GregorR: you made a new window manager? 15:45:04 Spiffy. 15:46:01 Corun needs to beware: "Thy" is the second person plural possesive. . . And that's Early Modern English, not Old English. 15:46:31 ('thy', in the typical romanisation of Old English, would be pronounced something like "thth") 15:49:45 wikipedia is of the opinion that thy is singular 15:49:56 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou#Declension 15:50:07 My brain is of the opinion that I got "thy" and "you" screwed up. 15:50:15 :-) 15:50:49 It's also of the opinion that. . . WHOHOO! HIGH SCHOOL IS OVER!!! 15:59:10 MINE TOO!!!! 15:59:20 -!- oklofyug has changed nick to oklopol. 15:59:41 although i don't really see it as that great, i keep thinking how much of a waste it was 16:16:26 -!- nopolie has joined. 16:19:26 -!- nopolie has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 16:26:01 -!- ehird has joined. 16:32:20 -!- sekhmet has joined. 16:51:46 -!- oklopol has quit (Connection reset by peer). 16:52:20 -!- oklopol has joined. 16:57:49 -!- oklopol has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 17:02:27 -!- oklofok has joined. 17:09:37 -!- BMeph has joined. 17:12:27 -!- ais523 has joined. 17:18:14 -!- ais523 has quit ("I need to reboot"). 17:21:34 -!- ais523 has joined. 17:44:17 -!- lifthrasiir has quit (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 17:44:17 -!- cmeme has quit (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 17:45:14 -!- lifthrasiir has joined. 17:45:14 -!- cmeme has joined. 17:47:03 -!- cmeme has quit ("Client terminated by server"). 17:47:04 -!- cmeme has joined. 17:57:16 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 17:59:12 -!- cmeme has quit (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 17:59:12 -!- lifthrasiir has quit (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 17:59:29 -!- ais523 has joined. 18:01:33 -!- cmeme has joined. 18:01:33 -!- lifthrasiir has joined. 18:01:40 -!- cmeme has quit ("Client terminated by server"). 18:01:40 -!- cmeme has joined. 18:06:39 -!- cmeme has quit. 18:06:49 -!- cmeme has joined. 18:29:09 -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 18:29:15 -!- ais523 has joined. 18:31:44 -!- ais523_ has joined. 18:32:06 -!- ais523 has quit (Nick collision from services.). 18:32:10 -!- ais523_ has changed nick to ais523. 18:37:22 -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 18:37:23 -!- ais523_ has joined. 18:37:48 -!- ais523_ has changed nick to ais523. 18:52:01 -!- timotiis_ has joined. 19:00:32 -!- Sgeo has joined. 19:06:13 -!- timotiis has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 19:24:59 -!- cherez has quit ("Leaving."). 20:46:28 -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 20:47:04 -!- ais523 has joined. 20:47:12 hey guys- who's seen this? 20:47:25 ais523: wanna help me take a crack at this puzzle? http://www.pixabug.com/aliens/fnalcodeletter_sanesize.jpg 20:47:30 RodgerTheGreat: that's out of context 20:47:37 apparently this was faxed to fermilab 20:47:47 it's probably a hoax 20:48:01 looks creepy 20:48:13 that doesn't mean it isn't fun to try to decode it 20:48:23 maybe it has no decode 20:48:51 ais523: maybe it does 20:48:58 my initial thoughts: ternary block, hex/symbol correlation, what appears to be interpretable as "SFC" and then a binary block 20:49:34 I figured that if anybody could solve it, it'd be the crowd here in #Esoteric 20:49:42 RodgerTheGreat: it does look creepy though 20:51:36 here's a textual version to play with: http://www.nonlogic.org/dump/text/1210967467.html 20:51:55 ehird: any thoughts? 20:52:55 RodgerTheGreat: it's still creepy 20:52:55 ;) 20:53:08 The symbols are interesting- I can identify an "i", a phi symbol, a subtraction sign and something that resembles a greater-than sign 20:53:21 that is so nothing to do with aliens 20:53:26 can you guys assign meaning to any of the other symbols? 20:53:41 they wouldn't be using our symbols for those things, and if they were, they would have said something more intelligible 20:53:42 ais523: I think it's much more likely to be some fermilab recruiting ploy. :) 20:54:01 to my way of thinking, it's just a fun puzzle 20:54:13 ais523: it's not alien related 20:54:17 not least because aliens wouldn't fax. 20:54:24 but is _is_ mildly creepy, imo 20:54:40 maybe it's a trailhead for an ARG! :D 20:55:03 RodgerTheGreat: Fermiargggggggg 20:55:20 RodgerTheGreat: where'dj00 find this? 20:55:29 /. 20:55:52 * ais523 came across the Slashdot homepage with /two/ articles with no comments on 20:55:57 which means it'll be solved in a few hours if it's possible, which is why we should try before the fun is spilled 20:56:00 and was disappointed that there were no comments to read 20:56:05 that's probably the wrong reaction... 20:58:50 :( 20:59:17 ais523: why are you being such a spoilsport today? You're usually all over puzzles and the like 20:59:51 -!- ais523_ has joined. 20:59:54 -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 21:00:03 RodgerTheGreat: I think he thinks we believe it means anything 21:00:07 as opposed to merely be ing interesting 21:00:15 I'm firmly in the latter camp 21:00:39 *being 21:00:39 even if it ends up being "DRINK MORE OVALTINE" it can be loads of fun 21:01:06 maybe the hex is a decryption key of some kind? 21:01:35 even if it ends up being "DRINK MORE OVALTINE" it can be loads of fun 21:01:40 ... 21:01:42 there are no words 21:01:43 YOU WIN 21:01:57 ? 21:02:10 RodgerTheGreat: that was brilliant 21:02:19 oh, ok 21:04:33 so, I guess we aren't all going to spend the evening feverishly working on this? 21:08:40 RodgerTheGreat: maybe 21:10:06 -!- ais523 has joined. 21:10:16 ais523: connection issues? 21:10:42 yes 21:10:49 the wireless here is dodgy 21:11:01 and how did ais523_ end up here? 21:11:25 * RodgerTheGreat shrugs 21:11:27 I've never been reverse-ghosted before, and I don't remember having been logged on as ais523_ today for more than a few minutes at a time 21:11:32 -!- ais523_ has quit (Nick collision from services.). 21:11:37 * ais523_ (n=ais523@ar02-fap02.bham.ac.uk) has joined #esoteric 21:11:37 * ais523 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:11:37 RodgerTheGreat: I think he thinks we believe it means anything 21:33:38 -!- oerjan has joined. 21:45:02 -!- Corun has joined. 21:46:04 RodgerTheGreat: Not a new window manager, that's Windows. 21:46:13 hunh 21:46:38 http://www.codu.org/imgs/win3plusplus.png (for those who missed it before) 21:46:49 does this imply you somehow recompiled a 16-bit version of firefox, or did you transplant explorer onto a newer OS? 21:47:04 Neither. 21:47:16 potatochop? 21:47:26 Look at the title bar to progman :P 21:47:37 GregorR: Slow website is slow. 21:47:50 ehird: Not slow for me *shrugs*\ 21:48:31 GregorR: Wow. 21:48:39 GregorR: you ... ported Progman? 21:48:52 Nope. 21:48:58 hey, there was a progman port in Windows 95. Not sure if anyone ever used it, though 21:49:01 HA HA HA. Mind blowing. 21:49:07 ais523: Not '95. 21:49:13 Which is to say, that's not '95. 21:49:18 yes, I know 21:49:20 Nor did I transplant progman :P 21:49:28 in any case, it would appear you made windows more hideous than usual. good show. 21:49:32 the djbash implies that that's a DJGPP version of bash, so it's running as protected-mode DOS 21:49:43 is the firefox window some sort of VPN? 21:49:46 Nope. 21:49:50 Running natively. 21:49:50 everything there makes sense but the firefox window 21:49:57 GregorR: well, that progman is definately running under nt 21:49:58 oh wait 21:50:00 and you didn't set Firefox as your desktop background? 21:50:00 GregorR: it's windows nt 21:50:02 isn't it 21:50:04 DING 21:50:13 NT 3 - the NT everybody forgot :P 21:50:22 Also the first Windows that supported Win32, and so will run Firefox. 21:50:30 Very cool. 21:50:44 I said earlier that I thought you took the 3.1 explorer and grafted it onto another windows version. I saw someone do a similar trick on windows 98SE 21:51:15 RodgerTheGreat: But there's no grafting involved - NT 3 /shipped/ with progman ala 3.11. 21:51:32 GregorR: Windows 3.1 could run Win32 via Win32s. ;) 21:51:35 when was the name 'explorer.exe' first used? Win95? 21:51:35 hunh. wtf indeed 21:51:44 oh, I remember Win32s 21:51:46 I never used it 21:51:50 but I have manuals for it somewhere 21:51:51 pikhq: The 's' is for 'subset', which means it won't run most anything at all :P 21:51:59 RodgerTheGreat: progman.exe, IIRC, was dropped circa Windows XP. 21:51:59 I prefer to call my explorer "Finder". :) 21:52:08 I think NT 4 predates '95 by a bit, I may be wrong. 21:52:11 GregorR: It runs Firefox 1.x 21:52:19 And the name "explorer" is used in NT 4. 21:52:26 pikhq: DOUBLE-U TEE EF? Really? 21:53:00 Also, explorer.exe was first used in an optional addon to NT 3. 21:53:21 This optional addon provided you the Win95-style UI instead of the Program Manager. 21:53:21 Oh yeah, newshell :) 21:54:12 Ah, the "Shell Technology Preview". 21:54:23 Windows NT 3.51, to be exact. 21:54:45 Also, Windows 95 came out before Windows NT 4. 21:54:48 (yay, Wikipedia) 21:55:16 Pfffft, looking things up :P 21:55:18 did anybody ever use DOSSHELL? Damn, I loved that app 21:56:56 I vaguely remember its existence :P 21:57:09 RodgerTheGreat: I read a manual for that too 21:57:30 ais523: You read manuals for software you don't use. 21:57:40 Dosshell is actually a lot like mc 21:57:59 http://www.compu-seite.de/bilder/dos62/dosshell1.gif 21:58:29 it's a wonderful interface when all you have is a keyboard 21:59:07 RodgerTheGreat: ... so is bash ;) 21:59:17 ... So is the Midnight Commander. 21:59:22 well, COMMAND.COM is no bash, dude 21:59:30 Yeah, command.com sucks much face. 21:59:32 And, yeah, Command.com sucks ass. 21:59:45 NT 3's command interpreter is a bit better, but still doesn't have tab completion. 21:59:50 (It has history at least) 22:00:15 IIRC, the command.com in FreeDOS is quite a bit better. 22:00:40 so wait 22:00:44 command.com sucks face AND as 22:00:45 s 22:00:52 It sucks everything. 22:02:24 Its only marketable skill is to suck. 22:02:35 But yeah, FreeDOS command.com is awesome. 22:02:44 (By comparison) 22:02:58 however, there are some bugs in cmd.exe that Windows command.com doesn't have 22:03:14 * GregorR can't parse that sentence. 22:05:31 however, (there are (some ((bugs in cmd.exe) that ((Windows command.com) doesn't have)))) 22:06:01 would solve all this notation polish. 22:06:19 ehird: now, I can't parse /that/ alleged-sentence... 22:06:20 for few minutes let's talk like this. 22:06:29 ais523: "polish notation would solve all this" 22:06:36 ais523: predicate, followed by arguments 22:06:45 polish notation fails with variable arity... 22:07:15 ais523: it's not like english isn't ambigious already 22:07:30 so let's just do this (ha! works that) 22:07:47 how today you? 22:08:28 interesting puzzle 's RodgerTheGreat. 22:08:51 ehird: you should just write in Latin, most simple sentences have the same meaning when you anagram them 22:08:57 at the word level, that is 22:09:02 not does take this into account prepositions 22:09:02 Perligata has the same property 22:10:15 GregorR: so what 22:14:06 -!- Judofyr has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 22:14:37 -!- Judofyr has joined. 22:15:27 ais523: Variable arity Polish notation is fairly simple. Every variable arity function has, as its first argument, its number of arguments. :p 22:15:43 pikhq: it should be the last argument instead, that would be confusing 22:15:57 * ais523 tries to figure out whether that would be ambiguous 22:16:07 ais523: of course it would be ambiguous 22:16:19 + 1 2 3 22:16:30 that's unambiguous because it ends with the 3 22:16:49 no, it's actually (+ 1 2) 3 22:16:51 of course it's ambiguous if you don't know where the expression ends, but if you do, I'm not as sure 22:16:52 it puts two numbers on the stack 22:17:07 oh hm 22:17:10 lament: I was assuming that the stack ends up empty 22:17:13 i bet it's still ambiguous 22:17:26 yes, that's what I would think too, but I can't think of an example 22:17:57 hmm... do the numbers-of-arguments have to be constants? 22:20:09 hm... 22:23:20 [22:22] [CTCP] Sending CTCP-PING request to ais523. 22:23:20 [22:23] [CTCP] Received CTCP-PING request from ais523, sending answer. 22:23:20 [22:23] [CTCP] Received CTCP-PING reply from ais523: 32 seconds. 22:23:29 I can well imagine that I somehow missed something in that 22:23:30 did I? 22:23:54 not unless you missed my "hm..." 22:24:02 no, I got the hm... 22:27:18 -!- BMeph has quit ("Time for me to go home"). 22:35:59 oh wait of course. + + 1 2 3 + 1 2 3 3 can parse in two ways 22:36:14 oh, of coures 22:36:17 s/es/se/ 22:37:21 um actually that's a bit inconsistent 22:37:30 does the count include itself 22:37:57 if so, + + 1 2 3 + 1 2 3 4 22:38:21 if not, + + 0 1 2 + 0 1 2 3 22:38:25 in what way? 22:38:25 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 22:38:40 -!- ais523 has joined. 22:38:46 is the count included in the arguments counted 22:39:02 presumably 22:39:07 that's what a literal reading would say 22:39:23 it doesn't make a difference if it isn't, because the numbers could just be all reduced by 1 23:15:08 -!- jix has joined. 23:16:36 -!- jix has quit (Client Quit). 23:36:08 -!- ais523_ has joined. 23:36:44 -!- ais523 has quit (Nick collision from services.). 23:36:47 -!- ais523_ has changed nick to ais523. 23:39:09 -!- ais523 has quit (Client Quit). 23:41:49 Bacq. 23:43:32 Bach? 23:44:04 hmm... do the numbers-of-arguments have to be constants? 23:44:10 variable argc prefix = wow 23:44:15 can you get TCness that way? 23:44:16 application: 23:44:19 func^argc(...) 23:44:21 err 23:44:24 func^argc ... 23:44:27 but argc can be an arbitary expr 23:44:28 wait 23:44:29 make that 23:44:30 func argc ... 23:44:37 I'm sure youi can get TCness from that.