00:02:52 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 00:03:09 -!- Slereah_ has joined. 00:32:27 Okay, I just went ahead and split my Magic cards 4 ways. . . And I still have 111 extra beyond that. 00:34:28 pikhq: Canada just got a whole lot fun. And there's no agora war 00:34:32 At least idle in #ircnomic 00:34:32 :3 00:34:36 No more drama! 00:35:18 * SimonRC worries that the humour might be too subtle for some people; especially on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/infinitesolutions 00:37:08 "you suck faggot nerd nerd nerd mother fucker" 00:37:10 first comment 00:37:40 so apparently, they suck a british dish and have sexual intercourse with the mothers of the math rock group "nerd nerd nerd" (I just made that one up) 00:37:58 heh 00:41:22 SimonRC: Brilliant. 00:41:54 I'd hope that the 'shooting targets off the Empire State Building' would be a dead giveaway. . . 00:42:19 Of course, I'd also hope that people would actually learn a damned thing in high school, so I may well just be ignorant. 00:44:07 I have been watching several of his videos They're all good 00:44:25 I almost tried the minesweeper one out 00:44:53 "It's called electrical tape because it conducts electricity" 00:45:00 Comedic gold. 00:46:51 Ow. 00:47:09 -!- kar8nga has joined. 00:47:35 -!- kar8nga has left (?). 00:49:06 SimonRC: Speaking of minesweeper and zork... 00:49:07 xyzzy 00:49:24 And I'm loving the 'advanced server' to simulate DST changeover. 00:49:53 But, yeah, the humor is a bit subtle for Youtubers. 00:49:56 * SimonRC wonders how the second Google TV video was done. 00:50:57 SimonRC: setting up a fake site 00:50:58 I gues 00:50:58 s 00:51:19 It must have taken a lot more effort than the previous ones 00:51:34 the menus that he used to select the tv show were spiffy 00:51:48 unless that is some re-skinned existing TV site 00:52:11 but injection of the extra "TV" link into the HTTP comms shouldn't be *too* difficult. 00:52:24 SimonRC: link plz 00:52:38 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MulSMSJV-U 00:52:52 SimonRC: Ooh, I have an idea. 00:53:00 A text adventure whose completion relies on xyzzy and plugh. 00:53:09 They are the most indepth commands in it, you can do; 00:53:10 xyzzy 00:53:13 Xyzzy the xyzzy 00:53:17 Xyzzy the xyzzy in the xyzzy 00:53:17 etc 00:53:22 it can be used in any context 00:53:25 and is defined elaborately for both 00:53:28 same applies to plugh 00:53:40 -!- timotiis has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 00:53:48 SimonRC: So, a lot of the moves are akin to 'Plugh the xyzzying plugh in the plughing xyzzy plugh' 00:54:23 heh 00:54:23 -!- Tritonio has joined. 00:55:03 how an esolang where you can say "do the thing to the thingy with the doohickey" 00:55:12 or rather, where you must 00:55:28 what 00:55:33 SimonRC: IF input languages are basically esolangs. 00:55:44 Actually, the final move to my xyzzyplugh game should be: 00:55:45 hmm, kinda 00:56:26 Talk to the plughing xyzzy about how to plugh the xyzzying plugh in the plughing xyzzy plugh while plughing the xyzzytical plughs of the xyzzyland plughmobile of plughxyzzys as the plughness plughs xyzzy up the plugh. 00:56:51 which should go in to a very in-depth analysis of how you talked to the plughing xyzzy about that 00:56:59 like 00:57:03 "Blah blah and you said about blah." 00:57:07 "Xyzzying plugh: etc etc" 00:57:10 for like 5 pages 00:57:18 and then that will end in a huge row 00:57:23 where the xyzzying plugh fights you 00:57:37 and you kill it by using the plughxyzzy of plughitical proportions in xyzzyland or whatever 00:57:44 that you made not long before 00:57:48 from almost all of the game objects 00:58:03 and then, when that happens, you find the xyzzy of plughlight in its remains 00:58:07 and crush it 00:58:11 which causes the world to evaporate 00:58:20 you're nuts 00:58:21 and you escape on a plughland parachute made of xyzzy 00:58:22 to another planet 00:58:24 THE END 00:58:35 SimonRC: but of course 01:00:07 SimonRC: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.xyzzy/topics the best usenet group ever 01:00:43 hey 01:00:48 it even has paedophilliac kooks! 01:00:49 http://groups.google.com/group/alt.xyzzy/browse_thread/thread/681784573d944d44# 01:02:03 Between 12 and 14? 01:02:07 Way too old. 01:02:12 And where's the shit and vomit? 01:02:19 Slereah_: Lmao 01:02:38 I SWEAR OFFICER, I DIDN'T KNOW SHE WAS ONLY 3! 01:02:45 http://membres.lycos.fr/bewulf/Divers3/1210089776017.jpg 01:04:29 Slereah_: Hah 01:05:45 I wonder, is there a language with a command to replace the symbol for the command? 01:05:58 Not for any useful reason, just for obfuscation. 01:05:59 Slereah_: Yes. 01:06:03 It's called MY MOTHER 01:06:16 I just got ICEBURNED 01:06:20 Tru 'dat. 01:06:20 D: 01:07:22 Slereah_: #ircnomic is all fun now. 01:07:24 It is called Canada. 01:08:26 I dunno, you're not very tolerant of Amiral Ackhbar. 01:08:42 Slereah_: I SO AM 01:08:54 Besides, our rules mean that your Admiral Ackbar votes only count as one. 01:08:57 Since you are, in fact, the same person. 01:09:22 Can you prove this? 01:10:51 Slereah_: Yes. With SCIENCE 01:11:16 Slereah_: In fact, I have a truly wonderful proof for this that this margin is too narrow to contain. 01:12:07 Nice try. I did the same thing for my homeworks, but it didn't fly! 01:12:33 I should do something like this just before I die. 01:12:49 If I could write a novel... 01:13:12 "The proof for this I have, and will develop it in an upcoming article" 01:13:13 I would write one full of bizarre metaphores and imagery that seems meaningful 01:13:16 Then bam, I die. 01:13:19 then ... 01:14:11 SimonRC: Then you'd be one of thousands of other authors! 01:14:13 Millions, in fact. 01:14:16 I would moan that no-one could see that the novel contained the meaning of life and the secret to universal happiness, despite it being all-but-spelled-out in the book 01:14:22 And I would probably love your book. I'm a pretentious fucker. 01:14:31 (Note: my pretentiousness is unrelating to my fucking.) 01:14:34 *unrelated 01:14:38 -!- Judofyr has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 01:15:13 -!- Judofyr has joined. 01:16:06 ISTR that Illuminatus does something like that, though rather then moaning there is a short note at the beginning 01:16:21 I forget what secret is supposed to be revealed. 01:16:31 fnord 01:16:47 The Illuminatus is pretty much plot vomit. 01:16:49 Slereah_: How did you send an empty message? 01:16:53 But it's a fun book. 01:16:59 ehird : l33t skillz. 01:17:05 Wow. 01:17:16 Can *I* have l33t skillz? 01:17:54 01:18:05 You can acquire them here : http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Computer_Science_3 01:18:05 * SimonRC fiddles... 01:18:21 Slereah_: The correct response is "No! You fool! Only l33ts may have ... l33t powers" 01:18:50 Then I follow it with "Halt! You fiend! You are not a l33t. I am a l33t. FurthermoraksldjASOIDHASIUDHAIUHKJSANKJASNDJKASDHAKJHKRRNRKNRKRKRR" 01:19:28 Slereah_: Do you not agree? 01:19:42 most people will see nothing on the following line: 01:19:57 ..? 01:19:57 fnord 01:20:13 some people will see nothing on this line instead: 01:20:24 fnord 01:20:40 Is there supposed to be more than just "fnord"? 01:20:40 I'M SHITTING IN YOUR CHIMNEY 01:20:44 or maybe the other way round 01:20:57 Sgeo: more than just " "? 01:20:58 Sgeo: both lines say fnord once 01:21:02 I saw "fnord" twice 01:21:07 SimonRC: They both say " " once? 01:21:11 Sgeo: what colours? 01:21:13 Sgeo: How can you see blank space twice?! 01:21:14 regular 01:21:18 odd 01:21:20 your 01:21:28 client doesn't do colour, eveidentally 01:21:32 freenode strips colours SimonRC 01:21:34 isn't +c color stripping? 01:21:36 it's a mode 01:21:38 that's enabled by default 01:21:45 not on this channel though 01:21:51 what's +c? 01:22:12 SimonRC: No, colour is stripped 01:22:14 i can assure you 01:22:15 I tried on a random channel and I could see my own colours 01:22:29 do you see this as red? 01:22:37 I thought that seeing your own text relied on the server echoing it back to the client 01:22:40 Sgeo: no 01:22:47 SimonRC, I see it as red. 01:22:57 toldya 01:22:57 I don't. 01:23:00 ok, so it doesn't work by server echo 01:23:00 this channel is +c 01:23:09 SimonRC: Colour stripping is on 01:23:39 SimonRC: Have you ever logged into IRC via Telnet? 01:23:47 ah, I was looking at my modes not #esoteric's modes 01:23:54 pikhq: no 01:25:16 I had a more-unusual-than unusual dream 01:25:24 SimonRC: I like dreams! 01:25:26 Tell 01:25:39 I was, um, somewhere, and I could ly 01:25:45 but only about a metre up 01:25:52 above that, I fell slowly 01:25:54 :-( 01:26:20 You could ly, could you? 01:26:27 um, fly 01:26:28 Anyway, flying a metre up would be fun 01:26:34 At one point I was floating down inside a really huge space 01:26:49 like, the inside of a cathedral tower or something 01:27:39 I considered using the space to do a bit of skydiving, but something told me not to, and sure enough I found that there were wires that held light up or something every so often on the way down 01:27:57 going up is tricky even when near the ground 01:28:37 SimonRC: 'something' = 'the part of your brain that just invented that' 01:28:37 BTW, the Matrix makes a lot more sense in its original form, where humans were being used for computing power, not electrical power 01:28:37 ;) 01:28:48 'original form'? 01:29:04 yeah, I watched some of the added stuff on the DVD 01:29:21 the bros talked about the early development of the idea 01:30:02 consider a MMORPG... 01:30:14 ah 01:30:27 you know its just a simulation, yet you can't break the rules by wanting to 01:30:53 however, if the simulation is internally generated, then it makes sense that you can brek the apparent rules 01:31:47 anyway, enough of that; bed-time 01:31:59 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 01:32:20 SimonRC: bye 01:32:21 :) 01:32:51 Slereah_: goddamn that Mike Sandy guy makes me want to kill people 01:39:45 pikhq: We need halp 01:39:48 FOR CANADA QUORUM 01:45:15 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 01:47:58 -!- GregorR has quit (Connection timed out). 01:48:23 -!- Tritonio has quit (Remote closed the connection). 01:51:32 -!- GregorR has joined. 02:21:56 -!- GregorR has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 02:27:00 -!- GregorR has joined. 02:57:54 -!- GregorR has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 03:04:10 Bye for today :) 03:04:45 -!- ehird has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 05:03:59 -!- olsner has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 05:46:42 -!- GreaseMonkey has joined. 06:07:02 -!- Sgeo has quit ("Ex-Chat"). 07:56:19 -!- Judofyr has quit. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:10:18 -!- ihope_ has joined. 08:21:15 -!- ihope has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 08:26:31 -!- GregorR has joined. 08:32:42 -!- GregorR has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 08:58:51 -!- GreaseMonkey has quit ("Unisex."). 09:00:45 -!- GreaseMonkey has joined. 09:01:15 -!- Iskr has joined. 09:19:32 -!- GreaseMonkey has quit ("i better turn ipv6 off."). 09:19:56 -!- GreaseMonkey has joined. 09:26:08 -!- timotiis has joined. 09:35:31 -!- GregorR has joined. 09:37:02 -!- Corun has joined. 10:05:06 there are 17 queriams in a flendra 10:05:17 -!- kar8nga has joined. 10:22:42 -!- ihope_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 10:31:42 -!- Tritonio has joined. 10:42:58 -!- GreaseMonkey has quit ("Unisex."). 11:05:13 -!- kar8nga has left (?). 11:20:42 -!- GregorR has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 12:09:38 . 12:10:03 oklofok: xpln! 12:11:31 NEVER 12:16:14 -!- kar8nga has joined. 12:17:59 -!- kar8nga has left (?). 12:41:24 -!- kar8nga has joined. 12:47:47 Deewiant, I got an idea for a new fingerprint: ESOL: B = Execute a 0gnirts as brainfuck, takes one tick, H = Execute a 0gnirts as HQ9++ 12:47:48 ;P 12:48:09 ... useful :-P 12:50:39 Deewiant, well, why not? 12:50:42 just a wild idea 12:51:40 I might not call it ESOL... BFHQ or something rather, it's only two langs after all 12:51:47 but whatever, go ahead :-P 12:52:10 Deewiant, cfunge implements BASE, CPLI, DIRF, FILE, FIXP, FPDP, FPSP, HRTI, INDV, JSTR, MODU, NULL, ORTH, PERL, PNTR, REFC, ROMA, SUBR, TIME, TOYS now btw 12:52:14 Deewiant, well I would add more ones 12:52:21 just two ones I thought of 12:52:24 whitespace maybe 12:52:25 and some more 13:11:32 just an idea anyway, will finish some other fingerprints before that 13:14:08 -!- kar8nga has quit ("Leaving."). 13:25:38 esol = lose. 13:25:46 (just a wild palindrome) 13:28:50 oklofok, palindrome is when it is same backwards and forwards isn't it? 13:29:05 why not 13:29:23 and by that i mean "yes". 13:29:36 well then it isn't a palindrome 13:29:47 as it is a word backwards but not the same string 13:29:58 well, ROMA = AMOR 13:30:06 AMOR was some greek god or something iirc? 13:30:12 Amor in that case 13:31:10 amor is the roman god of love 13:31:28 ah that fits well them 13:31:29 then* 13:31:32 (and it also means love in a couple of languages) 13:31:39 "esol = lose" is not a palindrome? 13:31:51 it seems there's something wrong with my perception again 13:31:58 i'll ask python 13:31:59 Deewiant, ROMA is after all about roman so ;P 13:32:41 oklofok, well no it isn't a palindrome, as a palindrom is like abcba, if reversed it is the same string 13:32:43 >>> def reverse(a): 13:32:45 ret="" 13:32:47 for i in a: 13:32:49 ret=i+ret 13:32:51 return ret 13:32:53 >>> "esol = lose"==reverse("esol = lose") 13:32:55 True 13:33:09 oklofok, lose is esol reversed 13:33:14 but it is not a palindrome 13:33:16 hmm 13:33:41 have i said either "lose" or "esol" is a palindrome? 13:33:44 "A palindrome is a word, phrase, number or other sequence of units that has the property of reading the same in either direction (the adjustment of punctuation and spaces between words is generally permitted)." 13:33:49 perhaps i'm not quoting well enough 13:33:53 oklofok, 13:33:54 esol = lose. 13:33:54 (just a wild palindrome) 13:33:57 err yes? 13:34:28 non alphanumberic characters aren't usually counted 13:34:37 so we are talking about the string esollose 13:34:37 and? 13:34:44 i'm fairly sure it's a palindrome 13:34:54 but if not, can you tell me what's wrong with it? 13:34:57 oklofok, you meant the whole string was a palindrome? 13:35:05 I see 13:35:09 :| 13:35:13 so i wasn't quoting well eonugh 13:35:14 enough 13:35:19 we should all be speaking lojban 13:35:37 anyway, i need to continue reading about databases, next: the wonders of sql 13:35:42 this is gonna be *sweet* 13:36:11 after implementing an sql query evaluator, sql is very, very hard to understand! :P 13:36:16 but, yeah, cya -> 13:38:09 oklofok, err it is hard to understand after you implemented it? 13:38:12 ??? 13:39:09 whooops! silly me 13:39:16 i forgot my irony tags! 13:39:24 after implementing an sql query evaluator, sql is very, very hard to understand! :P 13:39:41 oklofok, what XML Schema? 13:39:46 ;P 13:39:52 :D 13:39:53 AAaaAAaagrgrh! 13:40:00 SimonRC, what? 13:40:01 don't mention xml schema 13:40:05 SimonRC, DTD then? 13:40:21 is that better? 13:40:32 xml schema was invented by the sort of people that think factoryfactoryfactories are the solution to all software problems 13:40:49 SimonRC, well I prefer S-Expressions 13:40:53 so it would be 13:40:55 bbl food 13:40:57 sorry 13:41:14 you can't say "element foo containts an element bar and an element baz" 13:41:33 unless you have tourettes 13:41:37 then you can say anything 13:41:45 no, you have to say "element foo contains simple content which contains a sequence which contains an element foo and an elemnt baz" 13:41:51 gonna go read now, really -> 13:50:47 * SimonRC goes 13:51:24 well 13:51:55 (foo (bar) (baz)) 13:51:59 or 13:52:11 -!- olsner has joined. 13:52:13 13:52:28 I strongly prefer the S-Expressions version there 14:28:18 -!- kar8nga has joined. 14:33:41 -!- ehird has joined. 14:35:00 -!- ehird has changed nick to testais523test. 14:35:13 -!- testais523test has changed nick to ais523. 14:35:36 -!- ais523 has changed nick to ehird. 14:36:43 -!- ehird has changed nick to ais523test. 14:36:53 -!- ais523test has changed nick to ehird. 14:40:02 -!- ehird has changed nick to testais523test. 14:40:36 -!- testais523test has changed nick to ehird. 14:42:17 -!- ehird has quit ("Leaving"). 14:48:00 -!- ehird has joined. 15:28:39 -!- Slereah_ has joined. 16:22:56 -!- timotiis has quit (Remote closed the connection). 16:35:44 -!- timotiis has joined. 16:53:32 -!- kar8nga has quit ("Leaving."). 17:48:59 -!- Sgeo has joined. 18:02:21 -!- Slereah- has joined. 18:08:44 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 18:38:44 -!- calamari has joined. 19:15:41 -!- olsner has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 19:15:55 -!- olsner has joined. 19:34:47 -!- kar8nga has joined. 19:51:15 -!- oklofok has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 19:58:17 -!- Judofyr has joined. 20:06:00 -!- oerjan has joined. 20:10:56 -!- GregorR has joined. 20:23:33 -!- RodgerTheGreat has joined. 20:23:37 hey guys 20:24:12 Hai 20:24:18 hay 20:25:11 my vacation's over- back to the rat race. :/ 20:25:17 (umoq ap!sdn) 20:25:20 hi Slereah, oerjan 20:25:43 oerjan: y'know, there's a unicode alphabet to do that properly 20:25:59 /umop/umoq/s 20:27:13 unj ou s,+ey+ +nq 20:27:31 RodgerTheGreat : Do you race rats professionaly for a living? 20:27:52 not professionally, no 20:27:59 more like a hobby 20:27:59 actually, RodgerTheGreat is secretely a lab rat 20:28:13 second cousin twice removed of Brain 20:39:43 oh hi oerjan 20:40:16 Ho ih, najreo. 20:41:10 thanks for fixing my grammar 20:47:02 oerjan: I almost have that captcha done for haskellnomic 20:47:02 :-P 20:54:19 * bsmntbombdood pours more gin 20:54:43 -!- GregorR has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 20:55:36 -!- Slereah- has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 20:57:27 -!- Slereah- has joined. 21:38:31 oerjan: tada 21:41:28 todo? 21:44:36 -!- GregorR has joined. 21:45:02 oerjan: http://hpaste.org/7545 21:47:22 -!- Judofyr_ has joined. 21:51:28 brb in ... 20 mins? 21:53:22 check out this thing I ported: http://rodger.nonlogic.org/games/demos/Voxels/ 21:55:27 missing plugin? 21:55:30 RodgerTheGreat, ? 21:55:38 it's a Java Applet 21:55:43 RodgerTheGreat, can I get it in non-applet format 21:55:49 I got java but not plugin 21:55:58 RodgerTheGreat, as the java for amd64 is not the plugin part 21:56:08 you can run it locally in Appletviewer- that has a good chance of working 21:56:26 RodgerTheGreat, download url to it? 21:56:36 download the source file, and do "javac Grouf.java;appletviewer Grouf.java" 21:56:50 the source is linked to right on that page 21:56:57 it's just a single file 21:57:29 oh ok 21:57:36 43 FPS 21:57:38 and? 21:58:04 some rather low resolution balls on some ground 21:58:21 RodgerTheGreat, what is a voxel? 21:58:45 it's like a 3d pixel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voxel 21:59:17 RodgerTheGreat, and how comes it is 43 FPS all the time, normally it varies slightly 21:59:17 Heh. 21:59:57 well, that's an average FPS counter and the main loop does pretty much the exact same number of calculations each iteration 22:00:02 I wouldn't expect it to vary much 22:00:25 RodgerTheGreat, +/- 1-2 FPS when I run other stuff in bg after all 22:00:30 but no 22:00:34 your app stays the same 22:01:25 well, you can see how I calculate it- it probably does that because I average framerate for the entire length of time the program has been running, rather than the last several seconds 22:04:27 -!- Judofyr has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 22:04:38 -!- kar8nga has left (?). 22:06:33 also the way I calculate it truncates decimal points... 22:12:28 -!- Iskr has quit ("Leaving"). 22:28:18 -!- Corun has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep"). 23:38:23 -!- olsner has quit ("Leaving"). 23:53:20 I am back 23:54:33 wb