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00:51:10 <Sgeo> pikhq, how did you become an Agoran scamster?
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02:14:43 <Sgeo> Hi SchrodingersCat
02:14:48 <SchrodingersCat> hi
02:15:11 <Sgeo> There is at least one other person awake in #ircnomic
02:15:32 <Slereah_> Just call me, and I will raise an army of sockpuppets!
02:15:42 <Slereah_> But ehird seems to no like
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03:06:17 <pikhq> Sgeo: By scamming cleverly.
03:06:27 <Sgeo> What was your scam?
03:06:32 <pikhq> (actually, *am* I H. Scamster?)
03:06:54 <pikhq> I discovered that the recordkeeper for an asset may create any number of an asset.
03:07:02 <pikhq> And thereby won.
03:07:53 <Sgeo> What asset were you recordkeeper of?
03:08:02 <pikhq> Points.
03:08:21 <Sgeo> So you abused the trust of the people..
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03:08:22 <pikhq> I believe I had 6 months' service in that role before going idle.
03:08:22 <Sgeo> >.>
03:08:26 <pikhq> No, I didn't.
03:08:41 <pikhq> I discovered that bug in the rules long after becoming scorekeeper.
03:08:52 <pikhq> And it was generally considered a decent, reasonable scam.
03:09:38 * Sgeo was reading the SLR just before, and didn't really care about that feature
03:10:50 * pikhq will be coming off hold soon after graduation. . .
03:10:53 <pikhq> Just not enough time ATM.
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07:06:54 <Sgeo> G'night all
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07:24:57 <oklofok> heh, for a while now i've had the problem that firefox, when opening webpages, always opens the login page the wireless connection i'm using has... once again, IE was the solution! it's such a perfect browser <3
07:25:09 <oklofok> i don't get why i even bother using FF
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08:33:20 <oklofok> ah, the joys of word, untuplify? no, no, you must mean NULLIFY
08:33:22 <oklofok> :D
08:33:48 <oklofok> yes, i typoed nullify into untuplify, well done, word.
08:34:19 <oklofok> if someone knows why the fuck that might happen, do enlighten me
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08:47:14 <olsner> you've obviously double-typed u, swapped the n and u, then typoed l into pl and somewhere in the middle of it your cat pressed t
08:47:35 <olsner> *ll into pl
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09:10:28 * immibis notices that apparently 10 megabytes * 3 teaspoons/second * the answer to life, the universe and everything * 4 years/metre = 78 392 973.4 newtons
09:11:54 <immibis> and that 100 degrees C * 94 metres per metre is 35 076.1 degrees Kelvin
09:21:41 <immibis> and that 4 cups/teaspoon = 129
09:21:44 <immibis> *192
09:25:03 <immibis> and that 10K * 5F = 50m^-2kg^-1s^4A^2K. Now how did amperes get in there...!!!
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15:45:42 <ehird> oklopol: oko
15:49:39 <oklopol> hi
15:49:48 <oklopol> i'm busy today!
15:52:09 <ehird> exciting
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16:06:26 <oklopol> ehird: yes!
16:06:39 <ehird> oklopol: do you further understand the zen of oko?
16:11:52 <oklopol> almost, almost
16:12:05 <ehird> oklopol: { < > }
16:12:11 <ehird> that is one of the purest oko that exist.
16:16:29 <oklopol> i agree it is very pure.
16:18:51 <ehird> oklopol: `
16:18:54 <ehird> that is in fact bad oko
16:19:06 <ehird> as you will realise that the mini-symmetry of ` is not self-balancing
16:19:09 <ehird> and `' is crooked
16:19:16 <ehird> ergo, ` should only be used in special cases
16:19:19 <ehird> as a controlled box of bad-oko
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20:41:45 <ehird> ais523: as you wish
20:41:49 <ehird> now comment on my lisp interp skeleton ;)
20:42:25 <ais523> your garbage collector does nothing
20:42:41 <ais523> at least, to the program, it seems fine for debugging
20:43:15 <ehird> ais523: before you told me that, i thought it was a real, completed gc
20:43:18 <ehird> thanks for letting me know.
20:43:41 <ehird> actually, my heap thing is wrong
20:43:44 <ehird> i need to start at the current scope
20:43:51 <ehird> beh, i should do this in python. :PPP
20:43:55 <ehird> but i already have like 3 lisps in python
20:43:57 <ehird> and so does oklopol
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20:47:01 <oklopol> i thought i had two
20:47:05 <oklopol> well
20:47:11 <oklopol> i do have *like* three.
20:50:04 <ehird> oklopol: :))
20:50:13 <ehird> oklopol: but yours don't have a manual GC
20:50:19 <ehird> you should make a new one, which has a custom GC
20:50:22 <ehird> and all the stuff
20:50:30 <ehird> so that it can be your Final Scheme In Python
20:52:55 <oklopol> did you finish the one with a manual gc?
20:53:21 <ehird> oklopol: yeah
20:53:40 <ehird> oklopol: it was just a simple mark/sweep
20:56:27 <oklopol> i know, and i knew you finished the *gc*
21:02:13 <ehird> oklopol: meh :P
21:08:40 <oklopol> you didn't? perhaps i've confused all finishations and antifinishances
21:12:16 <ehird> i did finish it
21:14:44 <oklopol> then i have confused nothing!!
21:16:19 <oklopol> it's funny, i start university in 5 months, and i already have like a sixth of my studies done
21:16:25 <oklopol> 5? more like 3
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21:50:04 <Judofyr> ehird: Have you found the routing-stuff? :P
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22:03:22 <ehird> Judofyr: Can't. Wiped.
22:03:35 <Judofyr> crap :P
22:03:50 <Judofyr> you don't have the private pastie-url in your history either?
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22:08:55 <ihope> When I'm at school, I ponder how interesting a certain thing inspired by Thue and neural nets would be. Then I get home and do something completely unrelated.
22:09:13 <ihope> And much more boring, too.
22:09:44 <oklopol> same thing. i get tons of idea when i'm off the comp, and when i return, i open south park
22:09:55 <oklopol> and watch the old episodes over and over in a deep coma
22:10:15 <oklopol> sometimes make a random incomprehensible contribution on a random channel
22:10:25 <ais523> o
22:10:38 <oklopol> o
22:11:06 <ehird> k
22:11:40 <ehird> i'll be back in, oh, i dunno, 30 mins?
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22:14:24 <ihope> We need a herd of eager programmers with no ideas.
22:14:40 <ais523> ihope: what for?
22:15:09 <ihope> So you can tell them what type of thing would be interesting rather than having to do it yourself.
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22:22:26 <bsmntbombdood> me me me
22:22:33 <oklopol> you !!! :)
22:23:30 <bsmntbombdood> oklopol: university is for fail
22:24:10 <oklopol> well tuition might be, but being a professor or something sounds tempting
22:24:51 <oklopol> also i usually get quite nice ideas during lectures, and getting ideas is *way* better than sex
22:25:11 <bsmntbombdood> damn finns and their sexin
22:25:35 <bsmntbombdood> american nerdy kids need love too!
22:25:46 <oklopol> :)
22:25:52 <oklopol> so when were you coming to finland?
22:26:05 <oklopol> *double-wink*
22:26:12 <lament> i think i'll take sex over getting ideas any day
22:26:54 <bsmntbombdood> oklopol: now that i don't have school i could go right now
22:27:06 <oklopol> sometimes you get both, for instance oklotalk's pattern matching was partly designed in bed
22:27:15 <oklopol> i mean, the current one
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22:28:31 <oklopol> bsmntbombdood: i can only fix you an ugly chick atm, and as for those homoerotic fantacies about me you have, i'm sorta seeing this chick
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22:29:04 <bsmntbombdood> lawl
22:29:17 <oklopol> anyway, how is it hard to get sex?
22:29:31 <oklopol> i usually just tell girls they're hot and they spread their legs :|
22:29:38 <oklopol> you should try that
22:29:57 <lament> that's some low-quality sex
22:30:03 <lament> so you should compare it to low-quality ideas
22:30:14 <lament> those aren't hard to get either!
22:30:14 <oklopol> :P
22:30:26 <oklopol> oh you!
22:30:53 <oklopol> bsmntbombdood: so you quit it all?
22:31:00 <oklopol> how's the brewery going?
22:31:00 <bsmntbombdood> yep
22:31:14 <bsmntbombdood> slowly
22:31:32 <oklopol> any ideas for the future?
22:31:37 <oklopol> chillin'?
22:31:45 <oklopol> that was my second option after uni
22:32:50 <bsmntbombdood> not really
22:34:24 <oklopol> what then? feed me with your tasty ideas for the future
22:35:03 <bsmntbombdood> i mean, i don't have any plans
22:35:14 <oklopol> ah
22:35:26 <bsmntbombdood> i might go be a hobo for a while
22:35:37 <oklopol> wow
22:35:43 <oklopol> that would be so awesome
22:35:50 <oklopol> can i be your hobo buddy?
22:36:11 <bsmntbombdood> definitely
22:36:18 <oklopol> the problem is, i can't really mix programming and living on the street
22:36:23 <oklopol> cuz you need electricity
22:36:41 <bsmntbombdood> laptop
22:37:32 <ihope> An XO-1 laptop.
22:37:52 <bsmntbombdood> no, those are fail
22:38:10 <lament> XO are fail?
22:38:14 <bsmntbombdood> yeah
22:38:17 <lament> you're fail.
22:38:26 <lament> clearly you're not suited for hobo life.
22:40:56 <bsmntbombdood> xo were hardly designed with me in mind
22:41:24 <Sgeo> c'mon people, let's go to #ircnomic
22:41:37 <oklopol> your mother wasn't designed with you in mind.
22:41:51 <ehird> <lament> i think i'll take sex over getting ideas any day    <-- maybe you could design an esolang that got you sex
22:42:02 <ehird> i mean, everyone knows girls love esoteric programming languages, right?
22:43:08 <oklopol> many do, until they realize you're not talking about them for sex talk, but actually trying to teach.
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22:43:30 <Sgeo> lol oklopol
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22:43:47 <ehird> oklopol: i'll , you, then . -- and , again until there is no more!
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22:44:07 <ehird> i would convert some other, more interesting BF program ... but i'm lazy
22:45:26 <bsmntbombdood> time for work
22:45:39 <oklopol> now why would you comma me, then period double-hyphen me like that?
22:46:05 <ehird> oklopol: -- was an emdash, fool
22:46:12 <ehird> ,[.,] is obviously the program
22:49:21 <oklopol> basically, you're gonna cat me up?
22:49:51 <oklopol> that's a pretty serious threat
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22:59:11 <ehird> oklopol: it was meant to be more of an innuendo
23:00:37 <lament> pussycat
23:01:06 <oklopol> basically you'll eat me until i'm finished or smth?
23:01:37 <oklopol> i'm not sure i have the proper machinery for that
23:02:04 <oklopol> hmmhmm
23:14:48 <oklopol> sleep
23:14:49 <oklopol> or
23:14:50 <oklopol> ef
23:15:11 <oklopol> or perhaps read trivial web programming stuff?
23:15:20 <oklopol> !
23:15:24 <EgoBot> Huh?
23:15:31 <oklopol> !help
23:15:35 <EgoBot> help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon
23:15:37 <EgoBot> 1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl
23:15:40 <oklopol> any of these languages capable of randomization?
23:16:31 <ehird> <oklopol> ef
23:16:31 <ehird> <oklopol> or perhaps read trivial web programming stuff?
23:16:33 <ehird> blend these
23:16:36 <ehird> ef on the web!
23:16:39 <ehird> fixed-points of pages!
23:17:02 <oklopol> hmm... well
23:17:33 <oklopol> something like substituting php with the output of the program might take the fixed point of substitutions
23:17:43 <oklopol> in case the script creates another script etc.
23:18:09 <ehird> oklopol: php, bah
23:18:10 <oklopol> but, that's all fixed-point like i can come up with without further ponderification
23:18:13 <ehird> just use ef to output html.
23:19:05 <oklopol> hohoo
23:19:06 <oklopol> eval
23:19:08 <oklopol> takes
23:19:08 <oklopol> the
23:19:09 <oklopol> fixed
23:19:10 <oklopol> point
23:19:11 <oklopol> :)
23:19:24 <oklopol> that is a fun thought :P
23:19:46 <oklopol> "takes an Ef expression and executes it infinite times on given input"
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23:25:20 <oklopol> what this means is, of course, that having ef scripts in the file that are executed to get the html content will automatically realize if you produce a page that has further scripts
23:25:32 <oklopol> not that it makes a difference, really
23:25:39 <oklopol> but it's fairly fun
23:27:01 <ehird> oklopol: write an ef->javascript compiler
23:27:05 <ehird> then you can have it client-side too!
23:27:07 <ehird> Efjax!
23:28:52 <oklopol> effin' javascript and xml
23:29:28 <ehird> oklopol: x means EXTREME in efjax
23:29:33 <ehird> it communicates with ef code
23:29:39 <ehird> in an oklotalk wrapper
23:29:43 <oklopol> ah!
23:29:44 <oklopol> :)
23:30:01 <oklopol> Ef is for Extremely Fucking cool
23:30:09 <oklopol> hmm... ef is for Extremely Fucking cool
23:30:31 <ehird> i considered an acronym for ESO once (ais523 will like this):
23:30:36 <ehird> ESO(0) = Esoteric Standards Organization
23:30:41 <ehird> ESO(N) = ESO(N-1) Standards Organization
23:30:46 <ehird> it's a recursive acronym with a base case!
23:30:54 <ais523> ehird: yes, I do like that
23:31:07 <ehird> and they are the same lengtj!
23:31:09 <ehird> *length
23:31:10 <ehird> joy!
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23:32:50 <Slereah_> NOM NOM NOM
23:34:01 <ihope> Since I don't want to programmatific'y my Thue neural idea, I guess I'll stick it on the wiki under the horrible portmanteau "Thueural".
23:34:13 <ehird> oh lawd, is 'dat sum sleeping spills?
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