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00:14:30 <SimonRC> ehird: merely a glitch in the net
00:15:31 <Sgeo> SimonRC, do you care about PSOX? If anyone cares about PSOX, I'm considering a PSOX-ASCII for languages that don't do NULs well, and are somewhat decent at handling text
00:16:39 <ehird> heh, the same response always
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02:40:04 <Sgeo> Hi calamari and RodgerTheGreat
02:40:13 <Sgeo> either of you still interested in PSOX?
02:40:47 <RodgerTheGreat> I think it's an interesting concept, but to be perfectly honest I don't see myself using it anytime soon- I have a lot of other projects on hand
02:41:36 <Sgeo> I'm not working on it if there's no interest
02:41:44 <Sgeo> But I guess that counts as interest
02:42:18 <Sgeo> That's all I need really. Thanks
02:42:44 <RodgerTheGreat> My advice would be to create some kind of really neat proof-of-concept depending on it- if you made a befunge webserver or something people would be all over it
02:44:28 <pikhq> Sgeo: There's a difference between being interested and having the time to do anything with it.
02:44:38 <pikhq> I care about PSOX. I just don't have the time to do anything about it.
02:45:09 <RodgerTheGreat> not only would it be a cool and convincing way to make people want to make it a standard and play with it, but it would also stand on it's own as a neat accomplishment
02:45:21 <Sgeo> wget.b by pikhq already exists
02:45:36 <Sgeo> Although I guess a webserver would be cooler
02:46:07 <RodgerTheGreat> I'd imagine if PSOX had simple socket support a webserver would be pretty straightforward
02:46:30 <RodgerTheGreat> hell, I think you can make one by hooking up a BF interpeter's I/O to netcat
02:46:31 <Sgeo> It has socket support, but I don't know how simple it is
02:46:38 <pikhq> Really, a simple wobserver is trivial if you just assume inetd.
02:47:15 <Sgeo> Also, I want to add a PSOX-ASCII on top of what's there already
02:47:21 <pikhq> It's a super-daemon. Listens on ports, initiates the appropriate server when a connection comes in. . .
02:47:32 <pikhq> And does all the network setup for that server beforehand.
02:48:14 <RodgerTheGreat> after that, a webserver would pretty much just be something that barfs a string when it's pinged?
02:48:19 <Sgeo> Is inetd universal, or UNIX-like only
02:48:31 <pikhq> Sgeo: It's UNIX-like only.
02:48:41 <pikhq> Which is to say, everything-but-Windows-only. :p
02:48:42 <Sgeo> well, a filesystem accessing webserver would be better
02:48:48 <RodgerTheGreat> in that case, you could pick a really nasty language for the proof of concept, sgeo
02:48:49 <pikhq> GregorR: Oh. Cool.
02:48:55 <pikhq> But that is UNIX-like. :p
02:49:13 <pikhq> I don't think straight win32 offers it.
02:49:19 <pikhq> ... Unless you could build it with mingw?
02:49:27 <Sgeo> RodgerTheGreat, without PSOX-ASCII, the language has to support sending and receiving NULs
02:49:39 <Sgeo> With PSOX-ASCII, it has to be decent at handling strings
02:50:06 <pikhq> (OSX uses launchd instead, and most Linux distros use xinetd. . . Of course, they all do the same job, just in different, more fancy ways (OSX's launchd, IIRC, is also an init replacement))
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20:19:55 <ehird> Sometimes, people make me want to kill them!
20:19:58 <ehird> "Theses licenses are TOO weird, I prefer the 'normal' license.. 'The source is mine, is private and you must not mess with that'."
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20:39:35 <ehird> Unnamed-4AD202: hello slereah
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20:42:40 <Slereah> I am back from der Scientologie
20:43:46 <ehird> Slereah: I hope it was epic.
20:43:57 <Slereah> Well, in France, not that much.
20:44:11 <Slereah> The cops once again blocked us from protesting in front
20:44:12 <ehird> AnMaster: it was just a comment on a blog where someone had compared free software licenses
20:44:16 <Slereah> and attendance was less epic
20:44:29 <ehird> Slereah: Was there any Rick Astley?
20:45:54 <Slereah> It would be nice to find a way to stop the street blocage.
20:47:06 <ehird> AnMaster: anonymous scientology protests today..
20:47:28 <Slereah> Maybe I'll end up on TV and newspaper :o
20:47:48 <ehird> AnMaster: Anonymous as in the pseudo-entity
20:47:58 <ehird> I think AnMaster lives under a rock
20:48:11 <Slereah> Since I was the only guy with the good idea to order my Epic Fail Guy mask in february, I was quite filmed :o
20:48:12 <AnMaster> ehird, oh no, my secret is out
20:48:41 <AnMaster> Slereah, what is "epic fail guy mask"?
20:48:49 <ehird> AnMaster: Anonymous = *chan user.
20:48:57 <ehird> Anonymous = currently warring with CoS.
20:49:19 <AnMaster> there is some organization called "anonymous"?
20:49:29 <ehird> AnMaster: you know what a *chan is i presume
20:49:35 <Slereah> "Anonymous" is a collective name.
20:49:44 <ehird> and that on most of them, posts are forced to be marked as Anonymous, or at least convention dictates so.
20:49:50 <Slereah> One would say that he is Anonymous.
20:49:57 <Slereah> Not that he is a member of Anonymous.
20:49:58 <ehird> But it has sprawled into a pseudo-entity for wars such as the current one.
20:50:35 <Slereah> From 4chan, or possibly 2chan. I'm not sure when people started to referring to Anonymous as a real single person.
20:51:06 <ehird> Slereah: It's recent.
20:51:23 <ehird> It might have even originated from 7chan or similar
20:51:27 <ehird> Perhaps even as recent as the fox report.
20:51:46 <ehird> Also, do you realise we are having a discussion about chans using punctuation and spelling and capitalization?
20:52:35 <Slereah> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24718854@N04/2407669233/sizes/l/in/set-72157604504981741/
20:52:58 <Slereah> Giving some auditing, with a multimeter I got for 25 euros.
20:53:24 <Slereah> (I don't have the mask there, it's fucking hard to keep that thing on)
20:53:27 <ehird> BODY THETANS DETECTED
20:53:49 <Slereah> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24718854@N04/2408506072/sizes/l/in/set-72157604504981741/
20:53:57 <Slereah> Here I am, measuring the Thetaness of my brain
20:54:18 <ehird> Slereah: It needs soap
21:35:03 <Slereah> Because it accomplishes the same thing as an E-meter :o
21:35:23 <Slereah> Scientology's "religious technology"
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22:13:29 * pikhq would like to disband the Union.
22:14:01 <pikhq> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/11/AR2008041103655.html
22:14:15 <pikhq> Welcome, my fellow Americans, to the police state in toto.
22:17:37 <calamari> I did some country research.. some of the european countries rate better in press freedom, that type of thing... but they all seem to be welfare states
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23:13:36 <ehird> I hope this works now.
23:14:00 <ehird> Hm, wait, why is it just being *silent*?
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23:15:02 <ehird> Hmm, waitasecondary, why is that happening
23:15:33 * oerjan guesses that it is trying to send a message to Test...
23:15:39 <GregorR> PRIVMSG Hmm, :You said waitasecondary, why is that happening
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23:16:41 <ehird> As always, 'print' debugging will save the day.
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23:17:01 <ehird> Wait -- what the hell? It's being spammed somehow
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23:18:22 * oerjan wonders if ehird knows the actual format of irc messages :)
23:18:41 <ehird> It's just subtle indexing bugs..
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23:18:52 <ehird> ['PRIVMSG endeavour', 'Endeavour: You said: endeavour', 'endeavour']
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23:20:20 <ehird> that should be resolved
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23:21:44 * ehird tries to find out what is eating his resources
23:21:57 <ehird> something likes the disk
23:24:28 <ehird> ok, WTF is happening
23:25:16 <ehird> 'nobody' was running 'find'
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23:26:00 <ehird> okay, it should work *without* the lag now
23:26:05 <Endeavour> ehird: You said: okay, it should work *without* the lag now
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23:26:15 <ehird> :Endeavour!n=Endeavou@91.105.104.73 PRIVMSG endeavour :Endeavour: You said: Endeavour: You said: Endeavour: You said: Endeavour: You said: Endeavour: You said: Endeavour: You said: Endeavour: You said: freenode-connect: You said: VERSION
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23:27:35 <ehird> Now you must be awesome. No talking to yourself!
23:27:35 <Endeavour> ehird: You said: Now you must be awesome. No talking to yourself!
23:27:43 <ehird> Don't talk back to me.
23:27:43 <Endeavour> ehird: You said: Don't talk back to me.
23:27:51 <ehird> Grr! You little sh*t.
23:27:52 <Endeavour> ehird: You said: Grr! You little sh*t.
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