< 1203467218 0 :mu!n=chatzill@p5499DB4B.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1203467301 0 :mu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1203467384 0 :sumisu!n=chatzill@p5499DB4B.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1203467685 0 :Sgeo!n=Anonymou@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1203467732 0 :timotiis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1203468250 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1203468354 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi all < 1203468354 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi all < 1203468355 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi all < 1203468356 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j/k < 1203468394 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1203470357 0 :BMeph!n=chatzill@adsl-76-212-202-40.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1203470601 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1203470611 0 :sumisu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1203475687 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"K-Lined by peer" < 1203478465 0 :immibis!n=immibis@125-236-142-139.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1203478591 0 :immibis_!n=immibis@125-236-142-139.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1203478629 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1203478643 0 :immibis_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :immibis < 1203478691 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think someone's playing age of empires 2 on the gateway computer again ..... < 1203478823 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First was better. < 1203478825 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More lasers. < 1203478864 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :öäo.- < 1203478904 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone wanna write me a fictional debate. < 1203478940 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :been up all night trying to do my "spoken english" assignments... i've managed to write about 20 lines now. < 1203478968 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the debate's topic? < 1203478981 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b)Conscientious objectors are cowards < 1203478981 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c)Fewer women than men have won the Nobel prize because women are less intelligent than men < 1203478981 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d)Academic education is highly overrated < 1203478993 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the missing a) is not due to me. < 1203479009 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are "conscientious objectors"? < 1203479015 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cowards. < 1203479020 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1203479021 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*zing* < 1203479029 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're people objecting the war. < 1203479040 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that so. < 1203479050 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what war? < 1203479059 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the* war? < 1203479070 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A war in general. < 1203479081 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1203479089 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways, asd < 1203479093 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :f < 1203479095 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanna write it :) < 1203479108 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just one is needed! < 1203479114 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't go to science university for nothing. < 1203479139 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be able to develop an imposed idea on any length. < 1203479165 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can show you one of my earlier essays, it's *not* about quality. < 1203479176 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are all gathered here to take a glance at the past three years we spent as a class. It was a journey of hard work, learning and self-discipline, but it was also about togetherness. There are some great stories, and even greater accomplishments, but I'll spare you from them. The end of high-school is the beginning of a new era for everyone, people get jobs and whatnot. Some go to university. Some just wither away in the absense of company and < 1203479176 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :challenge. Dunno. < 1203479207 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matter at all what grade i get for this shit, it's just i cannot get . < 1203479213 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*anything* written. < 1203479227 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Program something to write it for you. < 1203479265 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought of that. unfortunately i'd really like to get on the project i thought i'd be doing today < 1203479276 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... would like to get this done quickly < 1203479302 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i can write some nonsense < 1203479308 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i hate high school < 1203479334 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sound judgement. < 1203479377 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose people are sick of my in-channel PSOX demo? < 1203479432 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're convinced enough. < 1203479445 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can probably do something else. < 1203479468 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I need to change some stuff with servers < 1203479483 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When accepting a server socket connection, give the option of blocking v. non-blocking < 1203479630 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think I'll work on it tomorrow < 1203479645 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches as the "tomorrows" built up < 1203479780 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: make an irc client with brainfuck using PSOX < 1203479794 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, I'm not that advanced with BF < 1203479830 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do gui with psox < 1203479838 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, not yet < 1203479865 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird previously said that e'd do a GUI domain, but then decided to make a competing spec, "SOXP" < 1203479897 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think ehird cares enough to finish either of those < 1203479919 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might make an irc client in brainfuck, might be fun < 1203479945 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't be that hard to make a telnet client, and after that it's basically just pingponging < 1203479963 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1203479968 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :making the telnet client shouldn't really be < 1203479974 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*anything* if the api is good. < 1203480397 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.pastebin.ca/910729 yes, i'm a literary genius. < 1203480457 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you graded by the quantity of text? < 1203480536 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I'm very confused < 1203480566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: how's that? :D < 1203480583 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah_: i think i'm graded by the overall quality < 1203480594 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tough luck. < 1203480601 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1203480656 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg there's a typo < 1203480694 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man am I glad to be out of high school. < 1203480698 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :point -> points < 1203480707 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1203480712 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a few more months. < 1203480751 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few more months until I have a job, and then a school where I have a hope of learning. . . < 1203480761 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't really have anything else left but this one course :) < 1203480800 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got 6 courses. < 1203480808 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, 7, if you count my UCCS course. < 1203480817 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 of the above courses are for college credit. < 1203480828 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also one course religion, though, but i'm doing that even less seriously. < 1203480830 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And are the only classes I feel like I'm learning anything in. < 1203480832 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UCCS? < 1203480841 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :University of Colorado - Colorado Springs. < 1203480846 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1203480855 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have 3 courses in the uni here < 1203480859 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you have a required religion course? < 1203480912 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: there's a non-religion option for it, but it's basically the same stuff, just have to go to another building for classes < 1203480912 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That disgusts me. . . < 1203480912 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i took religion. < 1203480912 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1203480920 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no *a* required religion course < 1203480924 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*three* < 1203480934 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*not < 1203480938 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, as a religious person, am offended by the prospect of requiring a religion course. < 1203480950 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's something *highly* personal. < 1203480970 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it frightening that MTU's comparative religion class is taught by a youth pastor. < 1203480980 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Religion is by definition a society thing. < 1203480980 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's next: a class on how to be an (anarchist|democrat|republican)? < 1203480982 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...who has been known to give extra credit for attending his sermons... < 1203480986 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's not about ones own beliefs, i'm openly atheist, and that's no obstactle. < 1203480991 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*obstacle < 1203481051 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1203481115 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaand sent < 1203481151 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully that's enough to pass high school. < 1203481184 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're full of hope. < 1203481294 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably say I lean towards atheism, if it weren't for the fact that I'm a pastor myself... < 1203481328 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1203481399 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we pronounce it a little differently, though < 1203481955 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... anyone here founded a religion? < 1203481961 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty cheap in finland < 1203482007 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it tax-deductible? < 1203482012 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could pretend to make one. < 1203482025 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, praying when they come to check on us and all. < 1203482038 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And playing ping pong or whatever the rest of the time. < 1203482043 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1203482065 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, we thought we'd start one with a few friends, but there's a chance you might get into media that way. < 1203482073 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is never good < 1203482089 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just perform a miracle. < 1203482106 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An interpreter written in Malbolge or raising the dead. < 1203482120 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, because the media is *never* interested in miracles. < 1203482136 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those sound about equivalent... < 1203482151 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least you'd be srs business! < 1203482201 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :The official church of Esoism. < 1203482219 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1203482243 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What will be the esoteric doctrine of the Church? < 1203482243 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the old topic right btw, i didn't store it anywhere :-) < 1203482266 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old topic was : < 1203482266 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment | map: http://www.frappr.com/esolang | forum: http://esolangs.org/forum/ | EgoBot: !help | wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/ | logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ or http://ircbrowse.com/channel/esoteric | Pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/ < 1203482307 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoists believe in esoteric programming. < 1203482316 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more common a religion than you might think < 1203482334 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what language is the universe written? < 1203482345 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are souls stacks? Tapes? < 1203482402 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are desperately playing it is not Malbolge < 1203482407 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*praying < 1203482418 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAD, BAD fingers < 1203482448 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it even computable :o < 1203482457 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm probably not < 1203482505 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's written in TwoDucks. the quantum behavior is just a side effect of the incessant time travel < 1203482667 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to write a Malbolge IRC client? < 1203482736 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm no prophet of Esoism. < 1203482887 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I plan to award anyone who can pull *that* off the patent title Prophet of Esome. < 1203482897 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if I have to create a whole new nomic to do it! < 1203482915 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: BTW: I'm also the Herald now. < 1203482926 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm done getting offices. Any more, and I'll go insane. < 1203482987 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall discussing a biblically-inspired language called "INTHEBEGINNING" < 1203483146 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION points at ftp://ftp.nvg.ntnu.no/pub/frc/39 < 1203483166 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(FRC Programming Language round) < 1203483171 0 :habnabit!n=habnabit@cust-65-98-205-68.static.o1.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1203483182 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that the website hasn't been updated since 2000 :( < 1203483198 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's now hosted on Google Groups. < 1203483231 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION liked reading FRC archives 4+ years ago.. < 1203483254 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1203483512 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a FRC player < 1203483519 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1203483529 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Sgeo didn't. < 1203483552 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew oerjan was an FRC player < 1203483572 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ørjan < 1203483576 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ørjan < 1203483581 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :used to be < 1203483615 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likewise, he used to be an Agoran. < 1203483625 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Øøø < 1203483627 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1203483682 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Øøø == erm in norwegian, just about :) < 1203484110 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can just use øøø instead of erm? < 1203484162 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's a free country. < 1203484207 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may not want to draw it out quite that long. < 1203484232 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :öö... øø... err.. < 1203484235 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yy.. < 1203484252 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yy? you say that in finland? :) < 1203484259 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yy is lojban < 1203484261 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :öö is finnish < 1203484271 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y is what it is in norwegian, i think. < 1203484294 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1203484315 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks oklopol is not paying attention < 1203484344 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the finnish "y" == the norwegian "y" < 1203484357 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not, i am not, watching american dad and playing the guitar < 1203484361 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no < 1203484378 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well approximately i guess. not sure how the finnish y sounds < 1203484411 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(beyond being in the approximate right place) < 1203484426 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just know what the swedish one sounds like, and naturally i assume the norwegian one is the exact same ;) < 1203484430 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know german ü is not exactly like norwegian y < 1203484450 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well swedish is pretty close < 1203484484 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess there might be a subtle difference, but i don't know it. < 1203484541 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure either. < 1203484642 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean every swedish vowel is colored by the difference in general intonation from norwegian, i think. < 1203484698 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1203485638 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1203485715 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :øø < 1203485769 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, if used out of context it is also an expression of stupidity, drunkness or gibbering insanity. < 1203486367 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :øø < 1203486385 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it, exactly? Is there an online definition somewhere? < 1203486450 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1+1 < 1203486504 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1203486571 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: "er" and "øø" are pronounced the same. < 1203486594 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(almost the same, in case someone thinks that's important) < 1203486713 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1203486813 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if people always use the øö character for erring < 1203486842 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps somewhere in nigeria, people say "wobbity wobbity" when thinking what to say next. < 1203486872 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they speak english or something in nigeria, i really don't even know where that is exactly < 1203486877 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, -> < 1203487121 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1203487180 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I believe English is one of their official languages. < 1203488012 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1203488520 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing some planning sketches for another set of comics- lemme scan them and then you can tell me what you think... < 1203488530 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1203488729 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rodger.nonlogic.org/dump/images/1203488516-art1.png < 1203488732 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rodger.nonlogic.org/dump/images/1203488528-art2.png < 1203488936 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoughts? Is the dialogue too heavy-handed? Confusing? < 1203488962 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dialog is unreadable... < 1203489009 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, look at this awesomeness -> http://coilhouse.net/2007/12/22/the-beautiful-nightmares-of-zdzislaw-beksinski/ < 1203489049 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want prints < 1203489107 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was stabbed to death by his caretaker's son. < 1203489136 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what it says < 1203489429 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh holy shit < 1203489433 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :posters are $450 < 1203489447 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to the wonderful world of art < 1203489479 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where all prices are directly proportional to demand, yet still higher than seems reasonable < 1203489506 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.chetzar.com/oil_paintings/DOUBLEWHAMMY.html < 1203489520 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i was rich sometimes :( < 1203489582 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like a subpar knockoff < 1203489594 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of the intricate detail < 1203489683 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.beksinski.pl/masterlist.htm < 1203489689 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an "art print"? < 1203489750 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the medium < 1203489760 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, it's one of a limited series of copies of an original < 1203489773 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :runs range fro 20 to 500 in most cases < 1203489794 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are usually made/signed by the original artist < 1203489824 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the case of things like woodcuts (Escher, for example), the prints effectively *are* the originals. < 1203490052 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeeeeezz i would wallpaper my room with these < 1203490191 0 :uvanta!n=uvanta__@116.45.53.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1203490212 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, uvanta < 1203490227 0 :uvanta!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello! < 1203490349 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up? < 1203490458 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit < 1203490464 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want something for $20 < 1203490954 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can sell you a quality oko for just $15. < 1203490963 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not now, but after my nap < 1203490965 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1203491000 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and I can sell you an original rtg for any price you name! < 1203491016 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OW FUCK < 1203491021 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, goodnight folks < 1203491038 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should not have been fidgeting with a large binder clip right by my mouth... < 1203491047 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna have a fucking lip blood blister now < 1203494399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1203494400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1203495228 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1203495262 0 :olsner!n=salparot@cust.fiber-lan.vnet.lk.85.194.50.194.stunet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1203495292 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin_@75-166-180-115.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1203495328 0 :jix!i=jix@78.47.212.92 JOIN :#esoteric < 1203496193 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1203497982 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1203501628 0 :uvanta!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm being forced to learn PHP < 1203501659 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not that hard.. < 1203501769 0 :uvanta!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 2 days. :( < 1203501828 0 :uvanta!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a file layout, and i should make a PHP class to handle (encode/decode) it < 1203501841 0 :uvanta!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't used PHP at all < 1203503532 0 :AnMaster_!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1203503602 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1203503626 0 :AnMaster_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :AnMaster < 1203503892 0 :sumisu!n=chatzill@p5499FB8D.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1203505232 0 :sumisu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]" < 1203507114 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1203508183 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1203508366 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1203509220 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1203509370 0 :oklopol!n=ville@194.251.103.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1203513918 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host6-88-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1203514835 0 :olsner!n=salparot@cust.fiber-lan.vnet.lk.85.194.50.194.stunet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1203515985 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-15-242.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1203517017 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1203517431 0 :wildhalcyon!n=chatzill@12.191.193.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1203517616 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, Church of Esoism, huh? < 1203517641 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying desperately to figure out what language the creator(s) used to code the universe? < 1203517722 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1203517735 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think xkcd nailed it in that strip < 1203517767 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it was no esoteric language! < 1203517776 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a good strip < 1203517793 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisp will soon be obscure enough to be esoteric, just you wait < 1203517815 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah. < 1203517833 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, books have been written about it. < 1203517849 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its been used in legitimate research. PhDs have been earned. < 1203517854 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not likely to be forgotten quickly enough. < 1203517885 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet someone's written a PhD thesis that's in some way about brainfuck or some other esoteric language < 1203517953 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is probably the most borderline case when it comes to esoteric languages < 1203517991 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a number of esoteric languages have roots in serious academic subjects. < 1203518001 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But usually in computability, not programmation. < 1203518008 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck from P''. < 1203518017 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlambda from combinators. < 1203518157 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Malbolge from pure evil. Wait, that's not academics. That's earning tenure. < 1203518195 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*classical literature < 1203518214 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :touche < 1203518220 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dante would be proud < 1203518240 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until he presses the "compile" button. < 1203518266 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm presuming that he's watching someone else press the compile button in one of the seven circles. < 1203518303 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Slereah < 1203518317 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Look at that poor little fellow. He's trying to use NOPs to create predictable instructions. Good thing I've given him some faulty RAM. < 1203518388 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I've been away for quite some time. It looks like PSOX is the new primary discussion topic. < 1203518475 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo isn't giving up at least! < 1203518502 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, doesn't seem like it. < 1203518536 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its a good idea. I had come up with a similar design for my vaporware fungeoid system, but it wasn't multilingual like PSOX is. < 1203518711 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm still planning on coming out with my system at some point. < 1203527156 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1203527302 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many occurences of the :) < 1203531506 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird': I'd debate whether or not a logo counts as speech. < 1203531524 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm well happy with hate crimes < 1203531532 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wildhalcyon: Shush you < 1203531537 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could put text on the logo if you like < 1203531550 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're thinking of Active Whale < 1203531552 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is imperative < 1203531564 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could simply put text sans logo. < 1203531573 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that no other Image: namespace article seems to be a logo < 1203531615 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wildhalcyon: But the text would be there to cover up for the logo. Duh. < 1203531620 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, did I say that out aloud? < 1203531645 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. I can't hear you < 1203531666 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my speakers are off < 1203531677 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's got a banana in his ear < 1203531705 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1203531736 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Banana? Is that what you kids are calling it nowadays? < 1203531817 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at all, this is ancient: < 1203531830 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Te audire no possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure." < 1203531843 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*non < 1203531942 0 :cherez!n=cherez@r02snw275.desktop.umr.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1203532004 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1203532104 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy idea -- < 1203532108 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know the boehm gc? < 1203532117 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what if you built a version that exported malloc as GC_malloc, etc, < 1203532121 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then used LD_PRELOAD.. < 1203532125 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and used everyday apps with it < 1203532125 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1203532215 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is new? i barely thought i'd heard it could be used with unmodified programs (with a risk of space leaks if it misidentifies pointers) < 1203532231 0 :otesanek!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1203532257 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does your suggestion imply something more... < 1203532322 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, mostly it means you'd patch the code < 1203532328 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i mean, right after the kernel < 1203532334 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that everything, absolutely everything uses it < 1203532363 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1203532375 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably someone tried < 1203532397 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it _could_ break horribly if someone saves pointers in a different format for some reason < 1203532535 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: imagine a PL implementation with a gc < 1203532538 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!" < 1203532538 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say adding tag bits or similar. ghc does that < 1203532545 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah hm < 1203532548 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most schemes do that < 1203532556 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(least-sig bit = is-small-int?) < 1203532571 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but they have their own gc < 1203532572 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1203532592 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but they _might_ use ordinary malloc for initial allocation < 1203532853 0 :habnabit!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1203533282 0 :habnabit!n=habnabit@207.62.231.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1203533454 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1203535092 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there a couple folks in here willing to rate my project idea on a scale of 1 to 10? < 1203535111 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm willing. < 1203535121 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though my rating won't be fair, accurate, or based on experience. < 1203535144 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really looking for fair or accurate. Experience-based might be useful, but not necessary. < 1203535152 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wildhalcyon, want to see a PSOX demo? < 1203535197 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We want to see a PSOX logo! < 1203535201 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1203535207 0 :wildhalcyon!n=chatzill@12.191.193.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1203535215 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah < 1203535218 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re wildhalcyon < 1203535231 0 :BrainF!n=SgBrainf@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1203535231 0 :BrainF!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi all. This client is written in Brainfuck (albeit written with a generator), believe it or not. It uses PSOX. You can get information about PSOX at http://esolangs.org/wiki/PSOX . < 1203535231 0 :BrainF!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1203535249 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re what? < 1203535255 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re == rehi < 1203535281 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ho, hello < 1203535316 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello everyone < 1203535349 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1203535351 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry, I was in the channel before but not paying attention until now) < 1203535363 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent. More people to horrifically mutilate my idea until I'm a poor shadow of the man I used to be! < 1203535439 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, we're always glad to help < 1203535461 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hi < 1203535469 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wildhalcyon: what is your project idea? < 1203535526 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My project is a fungeoid which can be partitioned into a grid-based system of processors, either self-controlled or locally controlled, rather than controlled from a centralized source. < 1203535544 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does sound interesting, actually < 1203535558 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to prefer fungeoids to store data in the program near the IP < 1203535571 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're taking that to one possible logical conclusion < 1203535580 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although you should get the IP to store data nearby as well) < 1203535614 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, essentially the IP meta-data would reside in the control system, in a separate space. < 1203535658 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would use the fungeoid to develop two meta-projects: The first is an autonomous autoprogramming system that would write itself new code on the fly. < 1203535718 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second is a shared virtual codespace where users could rent/own/have a parcel of the codespace an interchange IPs/data/code with one another, and outputting to shared media - such as a chatroom or drawing board. < 1203535800 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw < 1203535804 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :continuation based websites are a 'done thing' < 1203535807 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see e.g. seaside.st < 1203535808 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1203535816 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any ideas for IP finding in be your funge? < 1203535828 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: INTERCAL doesn't have a logo AFAIK < 1203535838 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: two ideas < 1203535843 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1203535844 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but neither are very good < 1203535849 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wildhalcyon < 1203535851 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird' what do you mean IP finding? < 1203535859 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wildhalcyon: instruction pointer < 1203535868 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :be your funge is like fuk yor brane < 1203535869 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what the IP is, what do you mean by "finding" it? < 1203535870 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for befunge-93 < 1203535873 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird` is planning a language like FukYorBrane, but based on Begune < 1203535878 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Begunge? < 1203535880 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1203535881 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Begune/Befunge/ < 1203535882 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Begune? < 1203535886 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds awesome < 1203535895 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hit return rather than backspace < 1203535910 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Begune does sound quite good, yes < 1203535923 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants to see more stuff designed for PSOX < 1203535925 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately it isn't 3am so maybe that typo can't be used < 1203535994 0 :habnabit_!n=habnabit@207.62.231.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1203536057 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first idea was that you could put special characters in your own program, which could somehow sense the opponent's IP going past on the other side of the program < 1203536073 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when your own IP went past them, its action depended on whether the opponent's IP had since last time yours did < 1203536095 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, imagine the two programs being on the outside and inside of the same torus < 1203536112 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the special characters being a sort of barrier that could be pushed into or out of the torus < 1203536151 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could be interesting < 1203536157 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one contiguous block of characters (that is, where each character in the block is a 4-neighbour of at least one other block) would be pushed into or out of the torus as a group < 1203536186 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever the opponent's IP goes past a block that started on your side, it pushes it to your side (without changing the behaviour of the opponent's IP) < 1203536188 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see FukYorBrane offer some "special" rules in the A-Z character range. < 1203536219 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever yours reaches a block that started on your side, it pushes it to the opponent's side, and if it was on your side to start with the IP rebounds < 1203536256 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other idea was simply to specify an area and ask if the enemy's IP is within that area, so you can do things like bsearch for it < 1203536268 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first idea is more interesting IMO but I'm not sure how useful it would be < 1203536268 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hrm < 1203536272 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither really seems esoteric enough < 1203536275 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fukyourbrane's is good < 1203536282 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need a lot of searching logic, but it isn't trivial either < 1203536293 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first one seems pretty esoteric to me < 1203536319 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the boundaries on FukYorBrane? < 1203536319 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but impractical and hard < 1203536322 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wildhalcyon: none < 1203536326 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since it's 1d, it's easier < 1203536338 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, its 1D huh? Yeah, that's a tad easier I suppose. < 1203536343 0 :habnabit!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1203536393 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and FYB has a 'loop while my data pointer is different from the enemy's instruction pointer' instruction < 1203536410 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might be interesting if it was a 2xINF tape. < 1203536452 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1203536514 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, maybe not < 1203536710 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is dead tired < 1203536730 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: so sleep < 1203536733 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hrmm < 1203536774 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nginx contains some REALLY bad ideas.. < 1203536775 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wiki.codemongers.com/NginxHttpEmptyGifModule < 1203536788 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, on a scale of 1 to 10 how would you folks rate my project? < 1203536798 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wildhalcyon: 2i < 1203536800 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7.23066 < 1203536816 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(come on, this is #esoteric. what did you expect?) < 1203536841 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: I remember when there was a 1x1 transparent GIF used on Wikipedia for a while as part of the IE PngFix < 1203536845 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fine with imaginary and complex numbers, but after figuring the magnitude, it comes out to only.. 2 :-( < 1203536864 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I am pretty sure in nginx it's designed for the 1-pixel padding gifs < 1203536868 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something went wrong with it in the end, and they took it off that script; I'm not sure what exactly, nobody was sure at the time < 1203536868 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :used along with and .. < 1203536887 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, nginx is russian and designed for amazing performance on huge websites and all of the top russian websites have terrible html like that.. < 1203536906 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some people thought it was because the image was requested so often that the servers got confused < 1203536908 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wildhalcyon: Naww. It's slightly above two. Or below. < 1203536912 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, wait, below is -i. < 1203536921 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2i is somewhat above 0 < 1203536923 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not above 2 < 1203536928 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, good point < 1203536931 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a typically-axed Argand diagram < 1203536943 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2i has a magnitude of 2. < 1203536945 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could draw the axes diagonally and have 2i above 2 if you liked < 1203536949 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is also not between 1 and 10 < 1203536954 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: yes it is < 1203536960 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you pinch one and ten between your fingers < 1203536963 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the complex numbers are there < 1203536965 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vertically < 1203536969 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1203536969 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :above 0 < 1203536972 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you're right/ < 1203536987 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it were above 2, you'd only get it if your fingers had a width of at least 2 < 1203536995 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably 4 so they were symmetrical about the x-axis < 1203537010 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's okay, ehird` has sausage fingers. < 1203537020 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey :( < 1203537069 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had sausage fingers. Then I ate them. < 1203537099 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CANNIBAL < 1203537134 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, but I'm so tasty < 1203537139 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurry hurry hurry, buy my rice and curry, buy my rice and curry, so hurry hurry hurry. Hurry hurry hurry, buy my rice and curry, buy one for two, special price for you < 1203537163 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklofok < 1203537185 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurry hurry hurry, buy my rice and curry, buy my rice and curry, so hurry hurry hurry. Hurry hurry hurry, buy my rice and curry, buy one for two, special price for you < 1203537186 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1203537189 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtube.com/watch?v=dTiMV1Vv1Tw < 1203537206 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtube.com/watch?v=g09gOh2qwug < 1203537344 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, obviously that person knows which species on Earth is the smartest.. < 1203537365 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A ball of twine with mice ears? < 1203537386 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: look around you is brilliant < 1203537400 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned many things from it! < 1203537415 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the largest number is, in fact, around 4 billion < 1203537422 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1203537435 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, some suspects that larger numbers might exist. < 1203537446 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ping* 4,000,000,001? < 1203537454 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow I failed to connect "Look Around You" from that YT page with Look Around You.. < 1203537468 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1203537495 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the largest number is in fact 4294967295 < 1203537507 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4294967296 is in fact smaller < 1203537534 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: integer wrap around is fun < 1203537534 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worrying thing is that I have 2^32 memorised... < 1203537567 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Around 4 billions" is good enough < 1203537581 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My memory starts running short at 8096 < 1203537611 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I only have 2^13 bits of memory < 1203537635 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean either 4096 or 8192 < 1203537642 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b2/Slimmingpicture.jpg D'AAAAAAH! < 1203537652 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should stop making lame Look Around You references < 1203537654 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, my memory isn't even that good < 1203537654 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I only know up to 2^16 and 2^32 < 1203537692 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually use some little pseudo song I learned when I was little < 1203537694 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if 2^17 is 131072, then I know up to 2^17 and 2^32 < 1203537700 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I discovered that it was useful! < 1203537714 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was from memory too, but I'm not sure it's correct < 1203537714 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like "One and one, two, two and two, four, four and four, eight...3 < 1203537718 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1203537733 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how I do fucking binary < 1203537741 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know basically no powers of two < 1203537747 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even 2? < 1203537778 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most esolangers know 256 and 65536, or should do < 1203537814 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :59049 is also worth knowing, but that's a power of 3 < 1203537815 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maximum value of the main data type in TriINTERCAL and Malbolge) < 1203537815 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, useful when you're programming in Malbolge! < 1203537815 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not < 1203537815 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that 3^9? < 1203537815 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i know 256 and 65536 < 1203537815 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know 1. < 1203537824 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knows 1/2 < 1203537832 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know :(( < 1203537832 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know up to 2^13 counting on my fingers, and know of 65536 < 1203537847 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many fingers do you have? < 1203537852 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you count to 2^13? < 1203537868 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one question I once asked at a maths camp: what's the largest prime you can write in decimal from memory? < 1203537873 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First finger 2^1, second 2^2, etc < 1203537890 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the 'in decimal' prevents you memorising a formula but not its expansion as a number) < 1203537894 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me it's 65537 < 1203537911 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1203537916 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd agree with ais < 1203537937 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know 65537 was a prime, tbh, but that should be easy to remember < 1203537961 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, 65539 is also prime, but that's incidental < 1203537970 0 :habnabit_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say 65,536 is the largest power of two that's easy to remember. < 1203537972 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it end-of-file in fuckingbigASCII? < 1203537993 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wildhalcyon: thanks, I now have a new largest memorised prime number < 1203538001 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know any primes :( < 1203538003 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 7 i think < 1203538015 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think also. < 1203538016 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally i let a computer tell me what they are... i have not had much use for memorizing them < 1203538030 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ factor 7 < 1203538030 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7: 7 < 1203538034 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes, 7 is prime < 1203538112 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..Who'd need to hesistate in saying that 7 is prime? < 1203538122 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1203538166 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.accesscom.com/~darius/hacks/factor.c I use this for factoring stuff < 1203538170 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably factor(1) is far more efficient < 1203538206 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to find some LAY video to watch < 1203538210 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any recommendations? < 1203538217 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LAY? < 1203538223 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look Around You < 1203538230 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, why is factor in GNU coreutils < 1203538231 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since we were talking about it just before < 1203538234 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: all of them < 1203538243 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it strikes me as being a bit specific-purpose to be there < 1203538243 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend the first season. < 1203538244 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 'cause gnu utilities are clusterfucks of non-designedness? :p < 1203538250 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, yes yes < 1203538253 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: and the computer episode of the second < 1203538258 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. < 1203538265 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I lolled. < 1203538269 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the Sulpher one having some cool stuff < 1203538269 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"LOOK AROUND YOG" < 1203538274 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sulphur < 1203538282 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, factor.c is kind of crappy.. < 1203538286 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only handles unsigned longs < 1203538288 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0dyvoVV5Tk Look Around You - Sulphur < 1203538317 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally < 1203538320 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that darius guy is crazy < 1203538322 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.accesscom.com/~darius/hacks/ichbins.tar.gz < 1203538334 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a scheme->c self-hosting compiler written in around 6 pages of scheme < 1203538337 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of which is the c prelude < 1203538339 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and postlude < 1203538367 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1203538370 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more lispy than scheme < 1203538371 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y < 1203538574 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the magnet experiment, did the heating of the magnet ruin it, preventing it from attracting the iron, or something? < 1203538608 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it not real iron, or was the magnet weak anyway? < 1203538618 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it matter? < 1203538724 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION <3 Sulphagne < 1203538857 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be nice if it was read < 1203538857 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :real < 1203538914 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the HELVETICA EFFECT? < 1203538930 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1203538942 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY7XH2ulTEU < 1203538978 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Calcium, not really connected to Sulphagne < 1203539070 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"no apparent reason" < 1203539116 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Man has been using Iron since the Stone Age < 1203539118 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1203539153 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to bend a spoon with the power of his imagination < 1203539306 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Bumcivillian isn't to useful for going to sleep, if its effect diminishes quickly < 1203539433 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1203539479 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1203539656 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where do you live Sgeo? < 1203539663 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :USA < 1203539725 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it would be... between 9AM and 5AM? < 1203539765 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3:36P< < 1203539767 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PM < 1203539769 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now < 1203539773 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's what you mean < 1203539787 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. It seems I forgot how to do substraction. < 1203539787 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mathematical Anti Telharsic Harfatum Septomin" < 1203539797 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, who needs substraction when you have a computer! < 1203539814 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 all < 1203539851 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Or if you can fly, planning your trajectory for your journey to work" < 1203539880 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the journey < 1203539983 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The finale takes place in Nottingham on April the 4th of September < 1203540096 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants some Garry Gum < 1203540110 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Anti-Garry Gum < 1203540595 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1203540795 0 :oklopol!n=ville@194.251.103.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1203541074 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright folks, I'm out. < 1203541084 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye wildhalcyon < 1203541091 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye sgeo < 1203541092 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye. < 1203541102 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]" < 1203541901 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://membres.lycos.fr/bewulf/Divers/Dinosaurs.jpg < 1203541904 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dinosaurs. < 1203541924 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The perfect representation for transformation groups. < 1203541962 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Man has been using Iron since the Stone Age" // what's this from? < 1203541973 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, Look Around You < 1203541994 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could have googled < 1203542014 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUR MOM < 1203542090 0 :habnabit_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1203542114 0 :uvanta!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"sleep" < 1203542316 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdZHnDDjf6w < 1203542969 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, look around you! < 1203542991 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1203543000 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10: print LOOK AROUND YOU < 1203543006 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20: GOTO 10 < 1203543047 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second series is pretty great as well < 1203543121 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1203543130 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes me think, I never finished my Peano calculator < 1203543210 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"brown iron, or 'bumcivilian'" < 1203543311 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahah- the "face shackle", worn by petty criminals < 1203544034 0 :habnabit_!n=habnabit@adsl-99-146-94-22.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1203544042 0 :habnabit_!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1203544583 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1203545316 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"K-Lined by peer" < 1203545325 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-54426605.l6.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1203545376 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1203545381 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a Redivider implementation yet? < 1203545446 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. Government secret. < 1203546910 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. That µ thingy is bothersome for I/O. < 1203546997 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardly. < 1203546998 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode. < 1203547002 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :µnicode. < 1203547078 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not that bothersome < 1203547087 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But since I'm pretty horrible at coding, it is. < 1203547137 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will agree with that < 1203547148 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: just < 1203547148 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever you'd say "" < 1203547148 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say u"" < 1203547150 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, ask in #python on how to read files in unicode < 1203547152 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're done < 1203547165 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What that got to do with unicode? < 1203547176 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I say µ, I mean µ recursive functions < 1203547179 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Little man. < 1203547220 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's time for some pen and paper coding, I do believe. < 1203547227 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't code without paper. < 1203547229 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant outputting µ. < 1203547232 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: also < 1203547236 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lazy bird use monads for IO yet? < 1203547241 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will make all your troubles disappear < 1203547260 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I slacked quite a bit these past weeks < 1203547260 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still haven't read Haskell < 1203547286 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a hard time staying focused on something. < 1203547682 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's my pen, bitch < 1203547802 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. Wonder if I'll have to use monads too for µlambda < 1203548017 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1203548030 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn those functional languages! < 1203549473 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the µ function even computable in a general case? < 1203549505 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems strange to me. < 1203549601 0 :Tritonio_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1203549637 0 :Tritonio_!n=Tritonio@150.140.226.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1203549976 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Definition of the unbounded μ operator in terms of an abstract machine" < 1203549980 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you Wikipedia! < 1203550158 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1203550168 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@haje8.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1203550531 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the µ function? < 1203550550 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey -- who here is interested in Be Your Funge? < 1203550569 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be your funge for a dollar 99, wink wink < 1203550612 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :µ function : µyf(y, x1, x2, ...) = smallest value of y such that f(stuff) = 0 < 1203550617 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or 0 if no such value exists. < 1203550655 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: uncomputable < 1203550659 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1203550681 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I'm scratching my head. < 1203550696 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? its uncomputable, get over it < 1203550714 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's supposed to be part of the holy trinity of the recursive functions. < 1203550721 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first system to be Turing complete. < 1203550756 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading Kleene. < 1203550759 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explain me Kleene! < 1203550762 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1203550764 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you trying to tell me! < 1203550765 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is computable < 1203550768 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_operator < 1203550772 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :example #3 < 1203550781 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is written in kind-of-assembly language < 1203550781 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that should be easy < 1203550827 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It be hard readin'. < 1203550837 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm, that's pretty light readin' < 1203550838 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go slowlt < 1203550839 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, I suppose it is. < 1203550840 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*slowly < 1203550996 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The unbounded μ operator will continue this attempt-to-match process ad infinitum or until a match occurs." < 1203551002 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's my problem. < 1203551086 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ad infinitum" - sounds like the seed of turing completeness < 1203551118 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, as long as it doesn't need to check if y actually exists, I guess I'll be okay. < 1203551121 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: So it doesn't halt until it finds one; and loops forever if there is none. < 1203551298 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1203551298 0 :Tritonio__!n=Tritonio@150.140.226.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1203551313 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Lazy K dude was onto something with that referential transparency! < 1203551328 0 :Tritonio_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1203551714 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. Mister ehird`. < 1203551722 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird mister. < 1203551756 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I use sum Monads, will I be able to read each function lazily ? < 1203551802 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the current idea, it seems like a lot of bothers. < 1203551818 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I can't rely on the combinators nice one-argument-each < 1203551824 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: Monads allow you to do everything lazy. < 1203551841 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I'd better go back on Haskell < 1203551843 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the nature of the functions that run them create data dependencies < 1203551850 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that the evaluator is forced to evaluate the IO stuff in sequence < 1203551911 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll pretend to understand and go read the tutorial.