< 1200873736 0 :faxathisia!n=more@137.195.250.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200874379 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1200874381 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200874410 0 :Groniel!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PumPum Peidei < 1200875645 0 :chs_dude!n=chs@adsl-71-142-94-13.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1200875693 0 :chs_dude!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please say "Hello, World!" < 1200875700 0 :chs_dude!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1200876316 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that some kind of PL? < 1200876500 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :internet relay programming? < 1200876972 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200877000 0 :Groniel!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1200877584 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200878677 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Raws < 1200878753 0 :Raws!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Corun < 1200879169 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1200886375 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1200886376 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200886385 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200887385 0 :xipietotec!n=jackfros@70-0-80-204.area1.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1200887461 0 :xipietotec!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone reverse my phrase output? < 1200887479 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1200887583 0 :slereah_!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-69-230.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200887821 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200888020 0 :slereah__!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-69-230.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200889072 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1200889698 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200889730 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=saru@219-88-194-41.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1200889868 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200892456 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200892525 0 :cherez!n=cherez@r02snw275.desktop.umr.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1200895664 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1200898423 0 :xipietotec!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200899917 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1200899921 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200900191 0 :tejeez!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200900949 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200901113 0 :slereah_!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-69-230.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200901607 0 :oklopol!n=ville@194.251.103.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200901698 0 :Slereah!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-246.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200902029 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200902399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1200902400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1200902439 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200903965 0 :tejeez!n=tejeez@dsl-lhtgw2-fea7dc00-42.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1200907512 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Hi Im a qit msg virus. Pls rplce ur old qit msg wit tis 1 & hlp me tk ovr th wrld of IRC. and dlte ur files. thx." < 1200913900 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rendell-attic.org/gol/turing_js_r.gif < 1200913901 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1200916487 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1200917103 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@cpc1-stkn2-0-0-cust786.midd.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1200917177 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1200917381 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1200918452 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918454 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918456 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918456 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918456 0 :ttm_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918458 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918459 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918463 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918463 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918463 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918464 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918464 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918466 0 :Overand!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918466 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918466 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918467 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918467 0 :johnl!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918467 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200918553 0 :johnl!i=johnl@johnl.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1200918602 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1200920145 0 :faxathisia!n=more@137.195.250.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200920145 0 :ttm_!n=daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1200920183 0 :SimonRC!n=sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1200920183 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=Rodger@wads-5-233-27.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1200920184 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@cpc1-stkn2-0-0-cust786.midd.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1200920184 0 :oklopol!n=ville@194.251.103.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200920184 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@75-166-178-76.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1200920184 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-22-4-68.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1200920184 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1200920184 0 :Overand!i=overand@pdpc/supporter/active/Overand JOIN :#esoteric < 1200920199 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@haje8.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200920199 0 :Slereah!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-246.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200920199 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1200920211 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200920211 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@wilug/madlug/sekhmet JOIN :#esoteric < 1200920233 0 :graue!i=graue@ip68-100-130-1.dc.dc.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921779 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921779 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921779 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921781 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921782 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921782 0 :Overand!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921783 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921784 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921784 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921786 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921786 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921788 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921789 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921790 0 :ttm_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921790 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921792 0 :graue!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921822 0 :graue!i=graue@ip68-100-130-1.dc.dc.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921822 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@wilug/madlug/sekhmet JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921822 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921822 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921822 0 :Slereah!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-246.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921822 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@haje8.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921822 0 :Overand!i=overand@pdpc/supporter/active/Overand JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921822 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921822 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-22-4-68.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921822 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@75-166-178-76.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921822 0 :oklopol!n=ville@194.251.103.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921822 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@cpc1-stkn2-0-0-cust786.midd.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921822 0 :ttm_!n=daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921822 0 :faxathisia!n=more@137.195.250.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921883 0 :SimonRC!n=sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921883 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=Rodger@wads-5-233-27.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921896 0 :ttm_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921896 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921898 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921899 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921901 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921902 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921902 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921902 0 :Overand!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921903 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921903 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1200921908 0 :faxathisia!n=more@137.195.250.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921908 0 :ttm_!n=daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921925 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921925 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@wilug/madlug/sekhmet JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921945 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@cpc1-stkn2-0-0-cust786.midd.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921945 0 :oklopol!n=ville@194.251.103.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921945 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@75-166-178-76.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921945 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-22-4-68.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921945 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1200921945 0 :Overand!i=overand@pdpc/supporter/active/Overand JOIN :#esoteric < 1200922381 0 :ais523!n=ais523@st01-fap02.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1200922780 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"If there are any aliens, time travellers or espers here, come join me!" < 1200923571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found this, rather interesting: gopher://blubb.ch/11/software/fbf < 1200923580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :functional brainfuck < 1200923636 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :physics which states that it is < 1200923636 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :physically impossible to detect a particle without affecting it in < 1200923636 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some way. < 1200923638 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wow, people still uses gopher: ?) < 1200923648 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woops < 1200923651 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal, yes? < 1200923655 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copypasta by mistakes it seems < 1200923869 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I'm glad that gopher: is still alive < 1200923918 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that looks like a procedural language, not a functional one < 1200925333 0 :mtve!i=mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1200925671 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Redirecting snail mail" < 1200926666 0 :Tritonio_!n=Tritonio@150.140.225.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200927100 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200927137 0 :Slereah!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-246.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200927884 0 :adu!n=andrew@66-240-11-2.isp.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1200928392 0 :Tritonio__!n=Tritonio@150.140.229.77 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200928449 0 :Tritonio_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200928697 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh. Could somebody explain how to access a gopher file via telnet? I got as far as connecting on port 70. < 1200928792 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I think I figured this out... < 1200929039 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and here's a pastebin of the FBF source, if anyone is curious and doesn't have a gopher client < 1200929041 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nonlogic.org/dump/text/1200928851.html < 1200929307 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox seems to be able to handle gopher: just fine < 1200929340 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in retrospect, it probably would've been easier to open the page on my linux machine < 1200930054 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone with Firefox can do Gopher. ;) < 1200930098 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use firefox on my mac, for obvious reasons < 1200930118 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as I said, it would've been easier just to use my linux box < 1200930125 0 :ehird`!n=ehird`@user-514fb24f.l2.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1200930204 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Firefox on the Mac is crap. < 1200930592 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1200930593 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :highly < 1200930607 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and safari is awesome enough anyway, at least with saft etc < 1200930612 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't tried safari 3 though < 1200930615 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the brushed metal :P < 1200930621 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :safari 3 is nifty < 1200930630 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty transparent upgrade, though < 1200930663 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I wouldn't have it any other way < 1200930669 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a Linux fan. < 1200930674 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I'm waiting on KDE 4.1. < 1200930697 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Konversation terminated!" < 1200930702 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Granted, I could *use* KDE 4.0 (had it installed a couple of days ago), but it's still a fairly rough release. < 1200930712 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm a mac user, so I'm going to continue to endure incredibly half-assed ports of linux software whenever I don't feel like spending money. < 1200930732 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KDE is going to make the ports less half-assed. < 1200930746 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently, all KDE programs run as native Cocoa apps. < 1200930769 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(will be officially supported with KDE 4.1) < 1200930772 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "native" GTK port seems like it has more promise, but it isn't anywhere close to being usable. < 1200930870 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to find screenshots
< 1200930896 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't think simply having native GUI toolkits is going to solve the main problems, though- so many of the reasons linux ports suck are because they don't follow interface conventions properly (meaning Apple HIG) < 1200930938 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The user interface features, behaviors, and appearances deliver a well-organized and cohesive user experience available to all applications developed for Mac OS X." < 1200930949 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the reason they don't officially support KDE on Mac OS X yet. < 1200930955 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: the best kind of app is a Qt app developed on OS X < 1200930975 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be one of the best-designed apps on linux and windows, and fit right into os x < 1200930976 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1200930981 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best kind of app is an app with the frontend rewritten from scratch for OSX. < 1200930987 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I tried to compile KDE3 with Qt-mac before < 1200930992 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get Amarok < 1200930996 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, VLC. < 1200930999 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too many patches though < 1200931006 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the OSX port of VLC is absolutely fantastic < 1200931010 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else got it working though < 1200931041 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't believe it when I saw VLC running on windows- it's actually missing many features from the OSX version < 1200931067 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can understand complaining about GTK ports. . . < 1200931078 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frankly, GTK is not designed with cross-platform operation in mind. < 1200931082 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inkscape causes me pain every time I use it. < 1200931121 0 :ehird`_!n=ehird`@user-514fb24f.l2.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1200931137 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should you want to *try* the KDE ports, you can hit http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/KDE_on_Mac_OS_X . < 1200931148 0 :ehird`_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehm < 1200931158 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Torrent the .dmg if you care. < 1200931160 0 :ehird`_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the last thing you heard from me < 1200931168 0 :ehird`_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird < 1200931171 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"someone else got it working though" < 1200931172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see above < 1200931179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good that's the last thing i said < 1200931202 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but honestly, I don't think anyone has any business "porting" an app to OSX without reading through this: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/OSXHIGuidelines/XHIGIntro/chapter_1_section_1.html < 1200931241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: you can get off your os x high horse < 1200931252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the apps work, don't they? the system as a whole is more elegant and usable than others, no? < 1200931264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so use the non-OSXy port until a more OSXy one is made. < 1200931546 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1200931566 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200931687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello ais523 < 1200931695 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello ehird < 1200931702 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I am on my own computer now < 1200931706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thank gawd < 1200931709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1200931713 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and kill your ghost, it's screwing up my tab-complete < 1200931717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1200931717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1200931723 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1200931742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i had an idea for an underload compiler but it would be kinda slow < 1200931749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1200931750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNLAMBDA < 1200931760 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you could always compile via Underload < 1200931766 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on a semi-unrelated note, it would appear that NBC is now Apple's bitch: < 1200931768 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :""'We've said all along that we admire Apple, that we want to be in business with Apple.' He then unexpectedly adds, 'We're great fans of Steve Jobs.' No telling what has caused the turnabout. Perhaps the writers strike gave both parties time to reflect on their mounting lost revenue."" < 1200931773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but: < 1200931777 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out how to compile everything except c. < 1200931783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: a way to make d work < 1200931788 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one of those already < 1200931789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1200931794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :every argument to EVERYTHING is a thunk < 1200931806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. you pass a goto ID, just like the underload compiler.. < 1200931807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so: < 1200931808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ab < 1200931809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is: < 1200931813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...compiled stuff for a... < 1200931819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CALLIFY(thunky_thunk); < 1200931821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thunky_thunk: < 1200931825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...compiled stuff for b... < 1200931837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, d works just by wrapping that thunk in a structure < 1200931843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ofc it could be slow. < 1200931852 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also obviously you need to manage your own call stack, for c < 1200931857 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's basically how the Underload version works < 1200931863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :itslow though. < 1200931867 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I wrote completely and then deleted by mistake < 1200931876 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but could rewrite without too much trouble < 1200931890 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of writing s as s, it's written as ((^s)) < 1200931905 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ab is ((^b))(^a))^^ < 1200931921 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and `a`bc is (((^c))((^b))^^)((^a))^^ < 1200931934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly, it will just be very inefficient < 1200931934 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d is the only combinator that doesn't start with ^ to evaluate its argument < 1200931944 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it can be optimised by quite a lot < 1200931949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, if we compiled to haskell this would be trivial :) < 1200931958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wouldn't have to do anything but: < 1200931965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d x = x < 1200931967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1200931985 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forcing eager evaluation would be the problem there < 1200931997 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then not-forcing again when d was used < 1200932062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hm yes unlambda is eager < 1200932063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1200932072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should concentrate on the underload compiler. for now. < 1200932077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you have rev. 18? < 1200932154 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1200932180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you grok haskell? :-) < 1200932192 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can understand it, with some thought < 1200932196 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not fast at reading it < 1200932205 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I understand the basics behind the way it works < 1200932212 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :including monads and the basics of the type system < 1200932223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you write it, though? < 1200932228 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not easily < 1200932237 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I don't know most of the built in operators and libraries < 1200932327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1200932334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well let me analyze my scheme program < 1200932366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'll use an awful lot of pattern matching, quite a bit of string concatentation, and maybe a state monad < 1200932367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1200932380 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pattern matching I'm used to < 1200932383 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in most languages < 1200932563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hm, maybe haskell isn't the best < 1200932569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this would be ugly in an imperative language < 1200932574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially with optimization < 1200932638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Obviously it should be written in underload < 1200932731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: :P < 1200932802 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe in GolfScript? < 1200932807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1200932810 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's sort of a wimpmode for Underload < 1200932991 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: parsing underload is funny < 1200932998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of having to retain strings of everything < 1200932998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1200933325 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to change the output rules for the next version < 1200933330 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they interfere too much with optimisers < 1200933339 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1200933341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's fun.. < 1200933351 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's hard to optimise a string when you don't know if it might have to be output literally < 1200933369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway, the optimization will be easy: we never remove ()s or anything like that, and we only change the [UL] not the String < 1200933414 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, in your case < 1200933428 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of my optimising interpreter entered into Anarchy Golf < 1200933442 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which does optimise inside strings, luckily not affecting the output of the problem < 1200933549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?Minimal+scheme+interpreter < 1200933549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1200933557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are all cheats, obviously < 1200933564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd ghave to be < 1200933565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my example is wrong < 1200933686 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they automatically correct mismatched parens < 1200933724 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few of the Underload ones look genuine, though < 1200933766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can't correct mismatched parens < 1200933770 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the form is like this: < 1200933777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(let ((a b) ...) < 1200933798 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1200933851 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is there no special variable in Perl that's 1 by default, read-write, and safely changeable? < 1200933867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's not that esoteric < 1200933887 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in GolfScript I could just assign to 1 as long as I didn't use it later in the program < 1200934078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: parsing underload is hsdfhsdkjhsdfjksdf < 1200934179 0 :slereah_!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-246.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200934215 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200934497 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Moving to a different Internet connection; will be back soon" < 1200934760 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1200934842 0 :slereah_!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-246.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200935154 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200935178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb ais523 < 1200935192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm starting to wonder if haskell is the best language for this :P < 1200935204 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not usually at all clear what the best language is < 1200935213 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and different people use different languages by default < 1200935270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1200935289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what would your preferred language be for impl the compiler? < 1200935307 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to use Perl by default < 1200935314 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure whether it would be a good choice here < 1200935326 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd most likely end up writing the whole thing as one massive regexp... < 1200935338 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, Perl5.10 has recursive regexps, which is great < 1200935352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that does not bode well for optimization < 1200935358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, we have to do () unrolling < 1200935387 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1200935406 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C parsers do that sort of thing naturally, but on the other hand they tend to be large and unwieldy to start with < 1200935442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i am NOT doing c < 1200935443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1200935461 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe one solution in any language would be to repeatedly extract inner ()s to the end of the list, replacing them with a number < 1200935469 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so (a(b(c)d(e)f)) < 1200935485 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would change to (a(b<1>d(e)f))>1(c) < 1200935487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm ofc aware how to do it < 1200935493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just elegance. < 1200935503 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that solution would be easy with regexen < 1200935542 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr... why doesn't Perl allow @_--? < 1200935542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for the optimization < 1200935546 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has an obvious meaning < 1200935547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i don't think perl is a good idea < 1200935553 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of optimisations are you talking about? < 1200935616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :things that make the generated c code less dumb < 1200935616 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :regexen? :D is that the official plural? < 1200935628 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've used that, but most say regexes < 1200935633 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Underload optimisations I did were a case of partially parsing the program, executing all operations but : and S, and even inside quoted strings < 1200935633 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also some micro-optimisations like :~ to : and deleting ~~ < 1200935634 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on who you ask < 1200935649 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me, regexes sounds too much like the plural of regexe < 1200935656 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm happy with regexps, though < 1200935853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1200935856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to have crazy zsh-fu: < 1200935857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :precmd() { print -Pn "\e]0;%n@%m:%~\a" } < 1200935857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :export PS1=$(print "%{\e[33m%}")"[%n:%~] %#"$(print "%{\e[0m%}")" " < 1200935895 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION normally uses bash
< 1200935905 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although zsh looks interesting as well < 1200935923 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's mostly just ANSI escapes, though, isn't it, rather than anything shell-specific? < 1200935932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :partly < 1200935939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of: < 1200935941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :%X < 1200935944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is zsh specific < 1200935956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ESPECIALLY the crazy stuff i do with $(...) in there < 1200935987 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$(...) is also accepted by bash < 1200935992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: here's what happens when i run that export PS1= line in bash < 1200935993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: print: command not found < 1200935993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: print: command not found < 1200935993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[%n:%~] %# < 1200935994 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might do something different, though, for all I know < 1200935998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no colours < 1200936003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: its use there is zsh-specific < 1200936015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, the fisrt line gives me a line like: < 1200936020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird@hostname:dir < 1200936026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i get ~/... for home dirs < 1200936030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in dir. < 1200936035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so pretty trivial < 1200936037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it works robustly < 1200936043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the second gives me a prompt like this: < 1200936043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ehird:~] % < 1200936047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coloured yellow < 1200936201 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me rewrite the Underload optimiser < 1200936206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: in what? < 1200936217 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll write it in Perl, the same as the version I deleted by mistake < 1200936226 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more to have something to work from than to make it part of the project < 1200936228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. perl. < 1200936228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1200936232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1200936236 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was nothing but s/// commands anyway < 1200936243 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else would you expect me to write it in? < 1200936250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOMETHING GOOD < 1200936251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1200936265 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Python? < 1200936272 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has much the same regex syntax < 1200936287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1200936311 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1200936344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1200936367 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the optimising-inside-strings thing was too much of a problem anyway < 1200936375 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is that you map (...)! to nothing < 1200936386 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and (..a..)(..b..)~ to (..b..)(..a..) < 1200936394 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on for all the commands except : and S < 1200936407 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that optimised generated code to quite an extent < 1200936416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :generated code isn't the focus < 1200936417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :methinks < 1200936432 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, run-length encoding helps a lot with Church numerals < 1200936454 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've written too many programs along the lines of (::::::::::::::::****************)((a)S)~^^ < 1200936481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a completely unrelated note I need to get a decent irc client < 1200936517 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe one that responds to ctcp version requests? < 1200936522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does. < 1200936532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't identified. < 1200936537 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's Linkinus < 1200936538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't bad < 1200936544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the ui is kinda grating on me < 1200936587 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using Konversation at the moment, purely because it was the only one that came with Ubuntu that I could figure out how to use < 1200936620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :konversation is really nice < 1200936625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if it works on os x nowadays < 1200936677 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do KDE apps work on OSX in general? < 1200936679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1200936685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because KDE does not like qt-mac, much < 1200936686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is possible < 1200936691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not fun.. you have to patch it to hell < 1200936699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got bored when i tried. < 1200936717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me find the page of someone who manaed < 1200936742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.khaitu.com/projects.php?item=23 < 1200936746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its not native looking < 1200936783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1200936784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a patch < 1200936785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.khaitu.com/public/kdelibs.patch < 1200936845 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YO ppl, wuzzup < 1200936886 0 :ais523_!n=ais523@st01-fap02.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1200936898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello oklopol < 1200936911 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloes < 1200936927 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1200936931 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523 < 1200937024 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry about that, my wireless connection dropped and my IRC client got confused < 1200937093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: really i ought to just write my own < 1200937094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1200937138 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice to have a nice portable one written in sh, dd, and netcat < 1200937147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1200937152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fuck netcat < 1200937155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need NETDD < 1200937161 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that even exist? < 1200937166 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or make logical sense? < 1200937172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but it REALLY FUCKING SHOULD < 1200937179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, the best idea ever < 1200937185 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is nothing more for humans to accomplish < 1200937385 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so! < 1200937392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language should the compiler be written in :P < 1200937394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language should the compiler be written in :P < 1200937404 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not at all an easy question < 1200937413 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as our programming styles are so different < 1200937418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1200937419 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is true < 1200937422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh stupid linkinus < 1200937424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop being stupid < 1200937424 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we'd better pick an esolang that neither of us are comfortable with < 1200937425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb. < 1200937429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1200937445 0 :ehird!n=ehird`@user-514fb24f.l2.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1200937486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1200937495 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :test successful < 1200937624 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200937633 0 :slereah_!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-246.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200937697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah_ keeps dying < 1200937810 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is working on a Codegolf program
< 1200937889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :codegolf.com? < 1200937894 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it < 1200937897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :codegolf.com = :(, it's not as fun as anarchy golf < 1200937902 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not nearly as good as the regulars < 1200937906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :far too serious < 1200937911 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1200937915 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to find a balance < 1200937926 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anarchy golf is too prone to cheats and errors in the questions < 1200937941 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but codegolf is too slow-moving and you never get to see the winning entries < 1200938162 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :slereah__ < 1200938259 0 :jix!i=jix@78.47.212.92 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200938370 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing I like about codegolf is that you can see your own previous entries < 1200938370 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host54-85-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1200938512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anarchy golf's cheats explicitly mark themselves < 1200938513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so its OK < 1200938551 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1200938560 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there should be separate leaderboards for cheats and noncheats < 1200938591 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I just had a great idea for a golfing challenge < 1200938604 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it couldn't be entered into Anarchy Golf < 1200938620 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a program that given three sets of inputs and outputs, generate a program that maps those inputs to those outputs < 1200938641 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :preferably with some rule to ensure that the /output/ is small as well as the original program... < 1200938949 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1200938954 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200939576 0 :ehird_!n=ehird`@user-514fb24f.l2.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1200939619 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i miss < 1200939621 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um that's trivial < 1200939637 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a=>x,b=>y,c=>z -> s/a/x/, s/b/y/, s/c/z/ < 1200939644 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1200939662 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1200939662 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why you'd have to try to minimise the size of the output program < 1200939678 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe by ruling that the output has to be smaller than the total size of all the input < 1200939691 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Slereah < 1200939872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200940342 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone alive? < 1200940345 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1200940443 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1200940478 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so what language would you use for the compiler that isn't perl? :P (i ought to write a program to pedantically refine my questions) < 1200940497 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most languages would likely work < 1200940509 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thinking of one in particular is hard < 1200940532 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might even be possible to do it in a language like sed < 1200940572 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh really? < 1200940572 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1200940628 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@nat-1.elb.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1200940630 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey! < 1200940639 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is any GBA/NDS programmer here right now? < 1200940650 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :willing to do a thing, of course < 1200940725 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand the acronym < 1200940757 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure but its not convenient < 1200940785 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only because sed doesn't do arithmetic < 1200940906 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1200940921 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: because this is so relevant to esoteric programming < 1200940951 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Game Boy Advance / Nintendo DS < 1200940959 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never programmed for them < 1200940963 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I have played them < 1200940971 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it's possible to program them legally < 1200940979 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I wouldn't do it illegally < 1200941227 0 :Tritonio__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1200941234 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamn linkinus < 1200941236 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :being stupid < 1200941255 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1200941432 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: as far as I know, it's quite legal to do so using something like the CycloDS with devkitpro :) < 1200941449 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for that advice < 1200941503 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a DS with various stuff for running homebrew. never got 'round to really doing the homebrew stuff < 1200941544 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i love my 'GBA Movie player' hacked for the purposes of taking a flash card and providing it in a form readable by the MAX Media Player.. the GBA movie player having hacked-upfrlashed < 1200941550 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hacked-up firmware < 1200941554 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1200941560 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a very 'clean' solution.. < 1200942145 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one nice golfing trick I discovered: < 1200942162 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you need to initialise a variable to a high number as a loop counter, and don't care which one, use $$ < 1200942172 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. current process's PID) < 1200942177 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's generally well over 1000 < 1200942282 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some programs used that for the counter prog. < 1200942286 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the run 1: 1 < 1200942287 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :run 2: 2 < 1200942289 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :run 3: 3 one < 1200942295 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shortest was this iirc: < 1200942301 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :print$$%7; < 1200942372 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :print 1+$$%3; # a robust solution < 1200942380 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cycles 1,2,3,1,2,3,... < 1200942496 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was used as randomisation, though, rather than just initialising a loop counter < 1200942659 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not randomization < 1200942663 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :code golf will do: < 1200942667 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :run program first < 1200942667 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :second < 1200942668 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :third < 1200942671 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, it's sequential < 1200942678 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :barring really weird things happenin < 1200942679 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1200942686 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so: print$$%7; < 1200943008 0 :Deewiant!n=mniemenm@iruel.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1200943059 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So! < 1200943070 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what? < 1200943082 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you aren't going to ask me what language you want to write the compiler in again, are you? < 1200943132 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know i know! < 1200943135 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait < 1200943136 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't < 1200943751 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: haha < 1200943752 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea < 1200944782 0 :ehird-!n=ehird`@user-514fb24f.l2.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1200945113 0 :ehird-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :55+2=4 < 1200945124 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what context? < 1200945209 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION guesses at modulo 53 arirthmetic
< 1200945248 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"55" = "5 + 5" = "10", 10_2 = 2_10, 2 + 2 = 4? < 1200945432 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=saru@219-88-194-41.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1200945440 0 :ehird-!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird < 1200945667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oklo/msgping < 1200945669 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1200946467 0 :slereah__!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-246.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200946637 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200947340 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200947496 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oklopol < 1200947513 0 :slereah__!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-246.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200947765 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1200947820 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200947835 0 :slereah__!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-246.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200948098 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bye everyone!" < 1200948136 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200948849 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1200948859 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :busy guy. < 1200948861 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1200948877 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200948903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you appeared again < 1200948904 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1200948907 0 :slereah__!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-246.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200948947 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1200948952 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200949182 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200949203 0 :slereah__!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-246.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200949438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is dead? < 1200949474 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200949509 0 :slereah__!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-246.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200949513 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1200950157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ping < 1200950164 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200950216 0 :slereah__!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-246.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200950907 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...olp! < 1200950926 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm never physically gone, just thinking. < 1200950955 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't stop thinking! remember descartes < 1200950998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sign with a D on it saying 'I think therefore I am' < 1200951002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now: go forth, and laugh < 1200951006 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200951016 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;))))))))))))))))))) < 1200951021 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :descartes ouned ass < 1200952032 0 :recon!n=recon@unaffiliated/recon JOIN :#esoteric < 1200952039 0 :recon!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1200952173 0 :Slereah!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-1-22.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200952508 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200953352 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200953606 0 :oklopol!n=ville@194.251.103.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200954000 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1200955188 0 :timotiis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1200955212 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1200955629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 < 1200955702 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2+3 < 1200955854 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{},{{}},{{},{{}}},{{},{{}},{{},{{}}}},{{},{{}},{{},{{}}},{{},{{}},{{},{{}}}}}} < 1200955967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 < 1200956268 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no thanks < 1200956290 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sold! < 1200956429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ most confusing conversation ever ^^ < 1200956456 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope I didn't just sold you my sister or something. < 1200957100 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200957279 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200958716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :behold: #web < 1200958718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:37:34] ehird: COBOL is a bad idea? You have an objective reason for that as well? < 1200958728 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second-best place for esoteric programmers, apart from #esoteric < 1200958841 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall even COBOL is objective these days. < 1200958914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe