< 1200096014 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, for a moment there it was like being at the guillotine, and lighting the rope that holds the blade up on fire, waiting to see if it burns thru. < 1200096015 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe not that drastic. < 1200096696 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato: didn't realize the modulo place is zero after it's nulled. < 1200096699 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1200096771 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh shouldn't tell where i am in a book in irc, it's kinda disappointing to see how slow i am :) < 1200096798 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've read 47 pages in 5 hours < 1200097006 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200097545 0 :Jontte!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1200097633 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=saru@219-89-40-70.dialup.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1200097656 0 :timotiis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1200098840 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1200099706 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1200099748 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :((p1 p2) d) seems to equal (p1 (p2 d)), where application means permutation by a list of indices < 1200099758 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*indexes < 1200099805 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems a bit redundant to reinvent permutations fully just because i'm too lazy to search for them on the web :DD < 1200099817 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whhhell, continuing -> < 1200103868 0 :ihope!n=chatzill@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1200103995 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ello ello ello. < 1200104038 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AYEE < 1200104080 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ello to you to. < 1200104091 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For definitions of "to" that make sense here. < 1200104132 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was too busy trying to find a pun about "h", but that kinda killed it. < 1200104140 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"here" that is < 1200104155 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a pun really... what's the more generic thing... < 1200104159 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke i guess < 1200104523 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :half the time i ask something on #scheme, an #esotericer answers ;=) < 1200105822 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-91-80.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200106444 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200106702 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1200106702 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200106712 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1200106790 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::i < 1200106890 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1200106895 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I shall make another language like dupdog < 1200106904 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like... with more uses. < 1200106960 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wrong answer, the correct one was of course ":z") < 1200106971 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but go for it < 1200107029 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...no clue how that could happen though < 1200111675 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1200113743 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=Rodger@71.238.189.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200113748 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's everyone doing? < 1200114375 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay it's RodgerTheGreat! \o/ < 1200114380 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1200114386 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up, greasemonkey? < 1200114389 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :missed me? < 1200114452 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1200114453 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda < 1200114474 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bot will need some testing soon - i'm coding in this game... < 1200114490 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_%28game%29 < 1200114522 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, dude- you should try a game I've been playing with! I just put together a working demo: http://rodger.nonlogic.org/games/CRPG/ < 1200114558 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, my java VM isn't working. < 1200114561 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1200114577 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D:> < 1200114582 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what way? < 1200115382 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't load, i think i installed it wrong. < 1200115445 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::S < 1200115459 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried reinstalling? < 1200115473 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, i had to manually copy the files < 1200115486 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i could try and get it to work... < 1200115497 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's really strange- didn't sun's site have a self-extractor? < 1200115519 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I highly encourage you to play with it for a bit- CRPG won't disappoint! < 1200115539 0 :veritos!i=veritos@c-67-183-145-13.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1200115552 0 :veritos!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone output this line for me? < 1200115578 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's got a self-extractor but no automatic *browser install* < 1200115631 0 :veritos!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1200115640 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: NO IRP PERMITTED. < 1200115641 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :veritos: Can someone output this line for me? < 1200115654 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PERMISSION ERROR. DO NOT DO AGAIN. < 1200115655 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops, didn't make it a quine < 1200115657 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CEASE AND DESIST. < 1200115664 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so sad < 1200115675 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MURDER IS RECOMMENDED. < 1200115678 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1200115729 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in all honestly, joining the channel ENTIRELY to try out IRP is what we IRP interpreters refer to as a "dick move" < 1200115774 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION protests IRP
< 1200115789 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Can someone please protest IRP?] < 1200115810 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRP ERROR: FATAL HYPOCRISY. < 1200115831 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1200116156 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[>+<-[>+<-[>--<->]]<] => [->+<[->+<[->--<]]<] of course.... it's normal to wake up and realize a bf program you saw earlier was not as short as possible? < 1200116163 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1200116197 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't go back to sleep without fixing it, and now i have to read the logs < 1200116199 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :glah < 1200116206 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :life is so hard < 1200116238 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had way too many dreams/nightmares of coding < 1200116336 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've determined that if i do anything for about 6 hours straight before I go to sleep, I dream about that activity. This has happened with starcraft, tetris, chess, drawing comics, various TV shows and movies and coding. < 1200116354 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, but this was quite interesting, i actually didn't give any thought to that program (although i did write the original version), and i was just falling asleep when i realized there's a redundant ">" < 1200116355 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1200116359 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now there's a typo. < 1200116379 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[->+<[->+<[->--]]<] < 1200116386 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was supposed to remove that too < 1200116397 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would prolly have come back again soon ;) < 1200116428 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :starcraft: awesome, tetris: awesome < 1200116533 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i now realize i lay on my bed for about 1.5 hours :D < 1200116540 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :starcraft was indeed awesome. One of my dreams about Quake 2 was pretty fun as well. The tetris one was exhausting. < 1200116562 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wonder i fixed that bf prog. < 1200118584 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya folks < 1200118592 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1200120568 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1200120717 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1200120843 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1200121829 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1200121997 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200123008 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1200124799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1200124800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1200126883 0 :Jontte!n=joonas@dsl-hkibras1-ff0ac300-216.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1200127598 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1200127603 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200127968 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Hi Im a qit msg virus. Pls rplce ur old qit msg wit tis 1 & hlp me tk ovr th wrld of IRC. Man who run behind car get exhauste < 1200130759 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-44-63.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200131738 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200133545 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1200134275 0 :Slereah!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-54-196.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200135123 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1200135471 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1200137878 0 :slereah_!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-54-196.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200138918 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@195-5-95-34.usul.arrakis.es JOIN :#esoteric < 1200139051 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm experiencing a database problem with the wiki, could someone please check if it's just me? http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Kayak < 1200139148 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not just you. < 1200139370 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, slereah_ < 1200139642 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Slereah < 1200139912 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-085-016-234-211.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1200142002 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, the article is not lost: http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Kayak&oldid=7834 < 1200144288 0 :Jontte!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Konversation terminated!" < 1200145001 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1200146901 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1200147070 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing wrong with the Kayak page now that i can see < 1200147092 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :these database problems happen now and then. usually reloading fixes them. < 1200148334 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=Rodger@71.238.189.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200148340 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey everyone < 1200148362 0 :faxlore!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1200148453 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'afternoon < 1200148873 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1200149278 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1200149592 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had another one of those videogame dreams last night. I was playing a game I *knew* was a sequel to gears of war, but it was exactly like Outpost 2 (an RTS) except in a jungle setting. I did this really tough "escort 150 people" mission, and then when I came back to my base it was largely destroyed by an earthquake or something. Then I realized I never had any ConVecs or Earthworkers, and I didn't have a vehicle factory so I was completely screw < 1200149642 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(convecs are truck-like things used to build structures in Outpost 2) < 1200149757 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was still better than dreaming about tetris for 8 hours. < 1200149914 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still really confused about the gears of war part, because I've never even played that game. :S < 1200151053 0 :ihope!n=chatzill@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1200151810 0 :jix__!n=jix@dyndsl-080-228-182-020.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1200151812 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1200156634 0 :Sgeo!n=Anonymou@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1200158119 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: you dreamt about tetris fo r8 housr? < 1200158128 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they become physically disabled they move to work that is not affected by < 1200158128 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such disabilities. At the extreme, those who are completely paralysed can work < 1200158131 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely using cybernetics. However, many such injuries can be repaired with < 1200158134 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :their medical technology or will just heal. < 1200158137 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1200158138 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong button < 1200158140 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1200158158 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copid from elsewhere < 1200158227 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1200158263 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno if I dreamt for 8 hours, but I slept for 8 hours and woke up tired as hell. It seemed to go on forever < 1200158287 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they say it's physically impossible to dream for that long < 1200158306 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, generally REM sleep occurs for periods of 30 minutes < 1200158309 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i've had dreams where i remember incidents from a whole week just from one night's sleep.- < 1200158312 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psychologically, maybe, but not physically < 1200158336 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, i prolly just make the details up when trying to remember them. < 1200158353 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... i doubt psychologically is the right term either < 1200158356 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my point was that it *felt* like 8 hours, although it's exceedingly unlikely that's how long it actually lasted < 1200158376 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, just being anal because it's more tight. < 1200158414 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION get temporarily confused from the appearance of "anal" and "tight" in the same sentance
< 1200158425 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tpye crappy
< 1200158435 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that was intentional < 1200158456 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i never! :O < 1200158478 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that saying doesn't work in writing. < 1200158498 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which saying? < 1200158579 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the anal thing or "Well, I *never*!" < 1200158632 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :letter. < 1200158634 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*latter < 1200158670 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it does work < 1200158674 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just never seen it. < 1200158680 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, it works alright with appropriate punctuation to convey emphasis and cadence < 1200158712 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1200158808 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing leaves out a great deal of the information conveyed in speech, so it's necessary to add those things back in for some phrases to make sense. It's a little like the reason emoticons are useful. < 1200158981 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. i prefer the way lojban does this though < 1200159005 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, integrate stuff like that into the language itself < 1200159014 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only word of Lojban I currently remember (other than "lojban") is .ii. < 1200159069 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't remember that < 1200159085 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i've studied the lang much < 1200159114 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, english has adapted to all kinds of syntactic patches and markup pretty well < 1200159132 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English is an always will be the native tongue of the internet < 1200159135 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and < 1200159153 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, I could've tried to play that off as an accent... < 1200159281 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :english might be the native tongue of the internet out of backwards compatibility, but i won't agree it's a good language still. < 1200159341 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(LALNA, people, LALNA) < 1200159368 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually, that might not work as well as in the case of oklotalk and graphica, since i geuss i haven't mentioned it much.) < 1200159383 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(anyway, it's awesome, awesome i tells ya) < 1200159446 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LALNA? < 1200159481 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a conlang of mine < 1200159493 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a work-in-progress of course, like i'd ever finish anything. < 1200159497 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, people really should be careful when saying "will always be". < 1200159503 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1200159533 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's always the idiot who'll say "YOU CAN'T KNOW THAT" ;-) < 1200159554 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/idiot/big meanie < 1200159593 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: granted < 1200159627 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the future, maybe we'll all speak our own languages and our computers will translate for us. < 1200159629 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I meant is "will be for a very long time and the forseeable future" < 1200159636 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods
< 1200159651 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we'll all speak a language that our computers can actually understand. :-P < 1200159665 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200159672 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my view of the future is we're all going to die soon and robots take over the world, so hard to have a serious debate on the subject. < 1200159688 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm actually being serious here :) < 1200159688 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we should overload the word "always" to mean something more along those lines, because that's generally what people mean when they use it. < 1200159722 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could do what lalna does and just add the module to the lalna wiki < 1200159726 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on if you mean "soon" in a cultural, evolutionary or geological sense < 1200159744 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could allocate the module rtgia and add that term < 1200159759 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who know you could then learn the module rtgia. < 1200159772 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh, i love lalna <3 < 1200159789 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: 15-100 years < 1200159863 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 years, I can see a remote possibility. 15 years, not a fucking chance. I will bet my CS degree that strong AI will not exist in any practical sense within 15 years. < 1200159907 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope you're right, and i hope i'll feel the same way after really starting to research ai. < 1200159924 0 :slereah_!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-54-196.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200159967 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some experience, and it's one of my areas of interest. I'm not saying I'm not going to try to help strong AI become a reality, but it'd be a tremendous leap from what we can do now. < 1200160038 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not only that, i also have my own theory why seed ai doesn't work as a concept < 1200160054 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, when i think about it, it seems ridiculous, but it's my underlying view, and that's hard to change :D < 1200160073 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's seed AI? < 1200160106 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea that an ai that owns humans at thinking could start reproducing better and better versions of itself < 1200160128 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't it work? < 1200160129 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exponentially growing in intelligence < 1200160139 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll write an article tonight, you can read it. < 1200160144 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1200160159 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have much thoughts, and they're not that great, so i'll not use them up here, i need articles you see :) < 1200160192 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs
< 1200160290 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, here's my logic: Humans have extreme difficulty replicating human intelligence, and I think we can agree that a single human is not capable of this at all. Therefore, if humans create an AI with human intelligence, even IF it has some augmented capabilities (perfect memory, really fast at math, multitasking, etc assuming these are even possible within the AI design we come up with), it won't magically be able to build better AIs < 1200160349 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's essentially the idea. < 1200160353 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we'll find that many of the properties that make computers better at what humans are naturally good at will turn out to be a tradeoff sacrificing the things that computers are normally better at < 1200160493 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, a point about what it means to reproduce a human brain in functionality < 1200160522 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's widely believed (TM) that humans were capable of everything they can do today already tens of thousands of years ago < 1200160529 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i base this on a movie.) < 1200160551 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200160551 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, even if a computer would be able to do what a human does, humans might exceed it's capabilities soon. < 1200160612 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, my father would think there was a bear in my room if i showed him a photoshopped picture about it, a friend of mine would laugh at the picture and point out the parts of the picture where the pictures don't match < 1200160636 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad example, perhaps, but i do believe some capabilities like this are actually lacked by previous generations. < 1200160760 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1200160800 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, i do believe in a lot of weird things. < 1200160888 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nothing wrong with strange beliefs as long as you have an open mind an you aren't dogmatic about said beliefs < 1200160947 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could firmly believe that cats shit candy if you pet them enough, but if I refused to alter my beliefs after being confronted with evidence to the contrary I'd be stupid AND crazy. < 1200161095 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a side-note on that, people should be taught math better, people seem to have no capability of changing the environment of logic, that is, you cannot say "let's assume for a while that ..." without being interrupted in case you haven't yet proved what you are assuming is true < 1200161136 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while in fact you were never going to, and actually using that as an argument why said thing is in fact *not* true < 1200161181 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's the lack of first-class truth environments in english < 1200161193 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lalna's "aiq", anyone? < 1200161238 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... that's not first class, it's a special environment statement, but it's something, anyway. < 1200161257 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :teaching formal logic is a bit more fundamental than something to be lumped in with mathematics, especially at the age people should be learning these things < 1200161271 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, true. < 1200161283 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just meant logical thought in general. < 1200161291 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess that shouldn't be called math in this case < 1200161305 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally, I'd like to see core curriculum becoming Math, Logic, and Grammar, rather than the "three R's" < 1200161317 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :three r's? < 1200161323 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard that though < 1200161343 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading, Writing and Arithmetic. < 1200161358 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the three R's come from a cute perversion of the english language. < 1200161376 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rhythm medic < 1200161401 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :History is something that's easy to learn on your own if you're literate. Math is harder to learn on your own. Therefore, Math is more important in public schools. < 1200161489 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, i wrote an angry essay on this for school once, the principal wanted to have a talk with me about my *ideas* < 1200161493 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never had it though. < 1200161493 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if people can reason and debate properly within a logical framework, there's no problem with people learning things like History on their own, because they can identify a reputable source and discard poor reasoning. < 1200161497 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess she for got it < 1200161538 0 :faxlore!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not make the core curriculum, Untyped, Simply typed and Dependantly typed lambda calculuys < 1200161550 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1200161550 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Public school should cover fundamental skills and teach people what they need to teach themselves. Universities should then allow people to learn specialized knowledge from experts. < 1200161579 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxlore: that's a bit more pedantic and detailed than is necessary for most applications. < 1200161588 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I wouldn't be against including it... < 1200161626 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my opinion formal logic should be taught before teaching a child how to read. < 1200161631 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a lot more useful. < 1200161677 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no reason those can't be done at the same time < 1200161679 0 :faxlore!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I take this opportunity to ask for any suggestions of books/texts on Logic? < 1200161709 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :teach them what logical fallacies are as you're teaching them how to spell their names and tie their shoes < 1200161714 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, true, but i think logic (and even mathematical notation for it) might be easier to learn than reading in general < 1200161727 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a child might actually pick up logic fundamentally pretty fast. < 1200161731 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd wind up with a generation of clear thinkers and do the world unmeasurable benefit < 1200161761 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :being able to read and write makes it easier to express concepts to the children, though < 1200161791 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :symbolic notation is much clearer than expressing ideas conversationally, but conversation methods are a good way to *start* < 1200161811 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh, i need a child < 1200161813 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chicks here? :) < 1200161840 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I'm aware of. I haven't seen Sukoshi around lately. < 1200161866 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no offense, but I think she'd be out of your league anyway. < 1200161868 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, she seems like a nice catch < 1200161873 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think? :D < 1200161877 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine too < 1200161880 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what sense, though? < 1200161906 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now there's a question < 1200161913 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbiab < 1200161915 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1200161928 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm actually pretty good at getting chicks irl < 1200161945 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they like my weirdness until they get to know me and realize i'm actually that weird. < 1200162028 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but by that time, i have my kid! mwahahaha) < 1200162032 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or not.) < 1200162210 0 :Jontte!n=joonas@dsl-hkibras1-ff0ac300-216.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1200162605 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How evil of you. < 1200162723 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200162723 0 :slereah__!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-54-196.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200162736 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION listen to Ayumi Hamasaki - A BEST 2 (BLACK) [2007.02.28] - 12 - HANABI ~episode II~.mp3 [320kbps]
< 1200162760 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: please add a question mark < 1200162783 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How evil of you? < 1200163032 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite. < 1200163195 0 :slereah_!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-54-196.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1200163298 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200163748 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was the correct answer "please add a question mark?"? < 1200163793 0 :timotiis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1200163838 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: no, there was no correct answer, but good guess :) < 1200163852 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1200163863 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, boo! Maybe. < 1200164964 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1200164966 0 :RodgerTheGreat_!n=Rodger@71.238.189.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1200165455 0 :Possum!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"enabling unicode" < 1200165902 0 :RodgerTheGreat_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheGreat < 1200166107 0 :jix__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1200166520 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1200167199 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: back on the topic of education, I think it'd be excellent if we took steps to identify the learning styles of children at a very young age (auditory, visual, kinesthetic, etc) and then sorted the kids into classes that catered to their best mode of learning. I think it would lead to more efficient teaching, and fewer people frustrated with school because of mismatches < 1200167306 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, I'm an auditory learner- I can soak up information very easily by listening to someone explain it. As a result, lecture-heavy classes are generally easy for me as long as I remain attentive, and I know I need to take more notes in other classes, like mathematics where much of the content is visual rather than verbal. < 1200168931 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't believe in learning styles < 1200168957 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither really < 1200168986 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i'm really just bad at learning using my senses < 1200169087 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's all about tendencies- everyone has a couple strong points that can serve them well if they identify them and learn to make use of them < 1200169211 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me it's more about concentration < 1200169233 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm generally half-asleep all the time < 1200169390 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :being a proficient computer user involves culturing a very specific kind of ADD. < 1200169415 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It involves doing what, now? < 1200169432 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :our user interfaces tend to make people task switch a lot < 1200169473 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you ever find yourself switching to an email client for a few seconds to check your mail right in the middle of reading a webpage, or similar? < 1200169501 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and being a good programmer pretty much requires a person to hyper-focus on a task for long periods of time. < 1200169545 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1200169666 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that it takes a lot of practice to embrace multitasking during some activities, and then "switch it off" to concentrate on a single task < 1200169708 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ditto < 1200169820 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It lends me to believe that user interface design could benefit from this knowledge by catering to these two classes of activities. < 1200169902 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDEs that are fullscreened with a minimum of visual elements to distract one from coding, with just a clock and a little tab for controlling background music playlists perhaps < 1200169968 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general trying to make application suites that streamline an entire workflow into a single app and provide everything you want without having to switch programs or return to the desktop < 1200170015 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be like the exact opposite of the Unix philosophy of having many small tools that each do a specific thing < 1200170077 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is, there's a very fine line between doing everything a user needs and being bloated < 1200170425 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the solution i've been thinking is to get a separate computer with nothing but coding facilities. < 1200170935 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1200172434 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: shouldn't you consider the unix environment to be a single IDE? < 1200172440 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: see also colorForth < 1200175198 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1200175430 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1200179638 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1200179706 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, took me about 10 minutes to write a function to generically run a genetic algo in python < 1200179712 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just did the same in scheme < 1200179715 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :took 8 hours :D < 1200180645 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are less experienced with scheme? < 1200180654 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just started. < 1200180658 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1200180665 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what algo? < 1200180677 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you supply a mutation function and a pool of data < 1200180685 0 :faxlore!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I see both programs? < 1200180689 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, go ahead, but probably over my head < 1200180697 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a scoring function < 1200180714 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it then scores every object in the pool < 1200180718 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :removes the ones that suck < 1200180734 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mutates the good objects with each other to get the pool full < 1200180740 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...repeat. < 1200180787 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, to be fully honest, the actual function to do that did not take 8 hours, more like 3 < 1200180795 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway... < 1200180797 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxlore: i guess.. < 1200180803 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can see them? < 1200180804 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are not exactly the same < 1200180812 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, pastebin < 1200180818 0 :faxlore!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh they arent.. ? < 1200180830 0 :faxlore!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes it less of a good comparison < 1200180837 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the python one has a scripting language (currently utterly useless one) that does the scoring of an entry < 1200180841 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, now: rewrite in bash < 1200180856 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the scheme one does permutation < 1200180882 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can upload the functions to do the evolution ofc, those are almost the same i think < 1200180893 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, yes pleae < 1200180894 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: never done anything programmingish in bash < 1200180895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please* < 1200180898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, aww < 1200181164 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... the scheme one is a bit hard to get out of context copypastewise, since the functions are all at random locations :D < 1200181461 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just paste the whole thing... < 1200181538 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.vjn.fi/pb/p116661161.txt < 1200181605 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love it how whitespaceless scheme forms those weird cloud thingies < 1200181621 0 :faxlore!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1200181629 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the part after make-pool is my favorite < 1200181724 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my original idea was to solve my rubik's cube, but i'm having a hard time getting my schemes right < 1200181762 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in python, i'd most likely have a solution already... < 1200181768 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants to do python
< 1200181789 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmer's nymphomania < 1200182012 0 :timotiis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving"