< 1198800323 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1198800363 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1198800558 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-22-4-68.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198800583 0 :oklopol!n=ville@194.251.103.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198801041 0 :ihope!n=474bbd72@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-58bc61279eef3f5b JOIN :#esoteric < 1198801069 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Small world, I guess. I conclude that everyone here is interested in Nomic. < 1198801106 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wut? < 1198801152 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhat < 1198801191 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oerjan Johansen and pikhq, for two. < 1198801257 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, though i think they are the only ones < 1198801277 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you should not use oerjan's full name without using pikhq's < 1198801292 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for by doing so you revealed you don't know his name. < 1198801333 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, we now know your TERRIBLE SECRET < 1198801383 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Josiah "pikhq" Worcester, then? < 1198801410 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are other Oerjans; I don't think there's a significant number of pikhqs. < 1198801690 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, I clearly knew pikhq's real name all along. < 1198801763 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, sorry < 1198801771 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bows deep < 1198802045 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there's Kevan Davis, who is not part of this community as far as I know. < 1198803364 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's Douglas Hofstadter, who is a real person. < 1198804395 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1198804553 0 :Sgeo!n=Anonymou@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198804596 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I work on PSOX? < 1198804681 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yers < 1198804689 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the alternative? < 1198804738 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)" < 1198804783 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBGzHfdr90w // I built a trombute! < 1198804839 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah-, not working on PSOX because nobody cares about PSOX < 1198804858 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite the dilemma. < 1198804894 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if people showed interest in it, I'd work on it < 1198804901 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is anyone here interested? < 1198804904 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i'm interested in the result, yes < 1198804922 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: is that an invention of yours? < 1198804930 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too lazy to googlify, once again < 1198804951 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Yup. < 1198804958 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, details < 1198804963 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is it < 1198804963 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, anyone here who disliked the strange safety stuff: It's being redone. Safety stuff will be specified on the command line, e.g. "--safety nohttp,fullfileio" < 1198804977 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's better < 1198804977 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: It's a giant slide flute. < 1198804979 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good idea? < 1198805000 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of requesting permissions while the program runs, etc. etc. etc. < 1198805008 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There will still be a safety log, though < 1198805013 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :run-time requests are a stupid idea, imo < 1198805019 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: A giant slide flute made of PVC pipe, specifically :P < 1198805045 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too dark, can't see how it works :< < 1198805065 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, sorry, wasn't a good place to record a video :P < 1198805098 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hates the fact that requests for input are required < 1198805120 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also, in non-PSOX programs run on a PSOX interpreter, there may be a condition I call "Comma-Hang" < 1198805132 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The canonical BF CAT program suffers from it < 1198805165 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[>,.<] < 1198805192 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it doesn't send out anything indicating that it ISN'T a PSOX program, and the BF interpreter waits < 1198805199 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[,.] < 1198805199 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :While the PSOX interpreter waits.. < 1198805208 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah-, that stops on NUL < 1198805242 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: http://www.codu.org/pics/thumbnails.php?album=3 // this is better for seeing how it actually works. < 1198805251 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you type in NUL? < 1198805254 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt 000? < 1198805293 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know if you can type it in, but the problem's still there < 1198805330 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can live with that. < 1198805337 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: quite awesome :D < 1198805359 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gotta make one myself < 1198805415 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would happen if you glued a small whistle inside it? < 1198805426 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And blew in it while jerking around the tube! < 1198805470 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will anyone join #psox ? < 1198805479 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I'm making some instructions, I'll upload them in a while. < 1198805495 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah-: That would be just convert the slide flute into a slide whistle *shrugs* < 1198805557 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: parse error < 1198805576 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ...? < 1198805596 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"That would be just convert the slide flute into a slide whistle" i failed to parse this < 1198805617 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... i output an error < 1198805618 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR : Do it! < 1198805630 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can make the music of some Mexican movie! < 1198805655 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Whistles are just flutes with a fipple at the end. Go wikipedia "fipple" for more information :P < 1198805681 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse errors have nothing to do with semantics! < 1198805707 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i do not know what a fipple is. < 1198805728 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fipple < 1198805758 0 :boily!n=boily@bas2-quebec14-1128667582.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1198805774 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, anyway, i'm getting a bit paranoid here, was "That would be just convert the slide flute into a slide whistle" in fact correct english and i'm just failing badly? < 1198805813 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no English speaker. < 1198805824 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the be seems a little out of place. < 1198805898 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking "converting", and wanted to point it out just to be annoying, but GregorR either didn't reread his sentence or i'm indeed losing my mind < 1198805929 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not really matter. < 1198805941 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My sentence was correct as is. < 1198805946 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was afraid so < 1198805948 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*as it was :P < 1198805970 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1198805976 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now help me parse it, please :) < 1198806024 0 :boily!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1198806044 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah, okay, i'll just try to forget about it :) < 1198806140 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"That would be just convert the slide flute into a slide whistle" < 1198806143 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expand "that": < 1198806154 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Performing the action you've mentioned would be just convert the slide flute into a slide whistle" < 1198806158 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit more expansion: < 1198806175 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The effect of performing the action you've mentioned would be to convert the slide flute into a slide whistle" < 1198806180 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*unhelpful* < 1198806217 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i did understand it to begin with, just didn't realize you can make lambdas that way too in english < 1198806226 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again, i don't understand much at this hour < 1198806258 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try coding naked. < 1198806262 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is so liberating. < 1198806281 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm actually coding naked as we speak. < 1198806301 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it liberating? < 1198806307 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, when we speak, i'm not coding, but i code during the few seconds of silence between messages < 1198806322 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, when we speak, you are coding. < 1198806324 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In IRP. < 1198806346 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg, hope i don't get kb's < 1198806348 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*kb'd < 1198806372 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, banning oklopol = False < 1198806399 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this line make sense to people? < 1198806400 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./PSOX.py -s nonet ./bf myprog.b < 1198806450 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to continue the highly cerebral discussion, i'm more half-naked, i have my shirt on, but nothing else < 1198806459 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: somewhat < 1198806498 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am two halves. < 1198806502 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's surprisingly hot in here. < 1198806535 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to add m-functions in my Turing machine, but it's hard when you're not concentrated < 1198806630 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to concentrate to make it easier < 1198806664 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, only somewhat? < 1198806670 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-s" is safety < 1198806675 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifies safety options < 1198806691 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, then makes 90% sense < 1198806732 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What doesn't make sense? < 1198806767 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./bf < 1198806777 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the ./ < 1198806789 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm assuming that the bf interpreter is in the same directory < 1198806797 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pirate smiley. < 1198806812 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummmm < 1198806842 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./psox.py opens the psox server and runs the command given piping stdio to the server? < 1198806852 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1198806895 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i got to 99% then, that's as far as i go after 2am < 1198806935 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the last 1%? < 1198806956 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's reserved for times when i'm fully awake < 1198807014 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Congrats on creating a new instrument. < 1198807037 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, if you can play it well, I'll applaud you. :p < 1198807082 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least you can make out the song < 1198807096 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If someone can play the spoon, and someone else with a string, we can make a band! < 1198807104 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoons* < 1198807125 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The limited budget boys" or something. < 1198807311 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye for now < 1198807346 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye. < 1198807363 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My room, for the first time in several *years*, is clean. < 1198807407 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it only took a couple days of work. < 1198807411 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Straight. < 1198807412 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1198807435 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminds me. I should start studying tomorrow. < 1198807462 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should consider getting back up on his Japanese studies < 1198807480 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which reminds me: anyone seen Sukoshi around in the past, oh, 6 months? < 1198807490 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any programming language based on another alphabet? < 1198807510 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but I could trivially make Tcl take Japanese input. < 1198807511 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't we ever see programs in cyrillic or katakana! < 1198807547 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few simple things about it: first, everything is in Unicode. Second, the builtins are just ordinary functions. < 1198807553 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the old Nahuatl script, which is throughly impossible to use on a keyboard. < 1198807565 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it's a simple matter to rename the builtins. < 1198807588 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a slightly more difficult matter to write a wrapper around the builtins so all the arguments are Japanese. < 1198807651 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's some learning languages made in the local languages. < 1198807693 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :プロック フー {バー バーッズ} {書いて "もしもし、世界!"};フー < 1198807704 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That can be 100% valid Tcl. < 1198807713 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1198807713 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already, it's syntactically valid. ;) < 1198807757 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. Why am I having foo take arguments bar and baz if it just outputs "Hello, world!"? < 1198807803 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe foo is "print", bar is "Hello," and baz is "world!". < 1198807843 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :プロック フー {バー バーッズ} {書いて "${バー}、${バーッズ}!"};フー もしもし 世界 < 1198807852 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In English: < 1198807855 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My first bit: < 1198807867 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :proc foo {bar baz} {puts "Hello, world!"};foo < 1198807870 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My second: < 1198807879 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :proc foo {bar baz} {puts "$bar, $baz!" < 1198807881 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1198807883 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;foo < 1198807904 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hello" "world" < 1198807910 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extra newlines not withstanding. < 1198807920 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*harro worrd < 1198807942 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :馬鹿だろう。 < 1198808133 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah-: there's a finnish translation of vba for microsoft word! < 1198808157 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vba? < 1198808163 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :visual basic for applications < 1198808179 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The frenchest thing we've ever done here was some sort of French pseudocode during our first year! < 1198808191 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1198808247 0 :Slereah!n=Test4@82.126.22.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198808518 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2142109719&size=o < 1198808522 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that. < 1198809094 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. Is there a way to use the internal speaker with Python? < 1198809362 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1198809406 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1198809454 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Playing the Super Mario theme on a Turing machine or the Monkey Island one has some appeal to me. < 1198809614 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does your turing machine have an "audible" state? < 1198809668 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if I can find a way to use the internal speaker from Python, I can just print notes and play them with some function! < 1198809707 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have windows? < 1198809714 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I do. < 1198809715 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :import winsound < 1198809723 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :winsound.Beep(1000,1000) < 1198810115 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1198810185 0 :Slereah-!n=Test4@82.126.22.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198811144 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to build a trombute: http://www.codu.org/pvcinstruments/ (ping oklopol) < 1198811234 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1198811276 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol /pvcinstruments/ xD < 1198811304 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromzophone < 1198811308 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromxophone < 1198811317 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trute < 1198811324 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :troccolo < 1198811349 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You realize that it doesn't have to be a slide instrument just because it's made of PVC :P < 1198811363 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1198811367 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromlophone < 1198811371 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromolin < 1198811379 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trombiano < 1198811392 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I took the word "trom" from "trombone" genius X_X < 1198811393 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, troms, of course. < 1198811396 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pianophone. < 1198811406 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xylobone? < 1198811407 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1198811414 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xenophone < 1198811418 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make a perfectly good flute out of PVC *shrugs* < 1198811425 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I figured - why not a slide flute? < 1198811451 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed you did, but "trom" sounds fun < 1198811572 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1198811607 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is trombone + flute, right? < 1198811674 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assumed the other part is an instrument and the other is something pvc-related < 1198811757 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Is there any reason for you not gluing the joints together? < 1198811949 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duct tape is more pvc'y < 1198812027 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that PVC glue (epoxy?) is less ghetto, more air-tight, and more likely to stay together. < 1198813856 0 :ihope!n=474bba10@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-1700cb4bc5e120f2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198813869 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that was fast. < 1198813882 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose you're the Registrar. < 1198813891 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not. < 1198813899 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just have my mail client checking every minute. < 1198813912 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pity you're not in Agora. ;p < 1198813928 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might join it soon. < 1198813969 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not a Minister at all? How boring! < 1198813979 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more active in Agora. < 1198813994 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have two offices and three patent titles in Agora. < 1198814006 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are your patent titles? < 1198814022 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agoran Spy, Champion, and Minister Without Portfolio. < 1198814047 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A proposal being voted on ATM should award me the title of Scamster, as well. < 1198814051 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minister Without Portfolio? Interesting. < 1198814171 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read the ruleset sometime. Quite a good read, if you have an afternoon. < 1198814195 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1198814368 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Rule 101/7 (Power=3)" < 1198814373 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused already. < 1198814417 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The power of a rule determines what the rule takes precedence over (along with the rule text). < 1198814429 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A power 3 rule takes precedence over a power 2 rule, and a power 1 rule. < 1198814441 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :101/7. That just says that it's rule #101, revision 7. < 1198814449 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods < 1198814473 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not rule dictated or anything; just convention. < 1198814654 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just convention that a power 3 rule takes precedence over a power 2 rule? < 1198814679 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the formatting is just a convention. < 1198814696 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The precedence rules are quite solidly defined in Section "Rules". < 1198814724 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as is the definition of a rule) < 1198814800 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1198814829 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads the Full Logical Ruleset, and gets amused by some of the cases concerning the rule's interpretation. . . < 1198814895 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The game must operate according to rules that exist at the time, and not attempt to incorporate retroactive changes made in the future" CFJ 1848. . . < 1198815002 0 :oklopol_!n=ville@194.251.103.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198815014 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a term for when a judge of some sort makes a judgement in bad faith? < 1198815015 0 :oklopol_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, 3rd random reboot today xD < 1198815020 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bad-faith judgement? < 1198815121 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be a judgement soon to be appealed. < 1198815154 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And perhaps an "inappropriate judgement". An inappropriate judgement may be punished, should we opt to do so. < 1198815224 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call it a Mockingbird judgement in an emergency. < 1198815419 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to have a power of 4. >:-) < 1198815461 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't have a power of 4. You're not an instrument. < 1198815548 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'd settle for just being an instrument. < 1198815554 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For now, I'll settle for being a player :-P < 1198815863 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So players generally have power 0, meaning instruments have complete control over the players? < 1198815867 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, how scary. < 1198816133 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm, how come an emergency session results in all non-Senators going supine? < 1198816282 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is supine-ness meant in the sense of passiveness, with calling it a posture just being a pun? < 1198816497 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, even on PC speaker the Monkey Island 2 theme seems horribly complex! < 1198816552 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Players aren't instruments, so they don't have a power. < 1198816563 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The supine-ness means that they can't judge. < 1198816638 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Players aren't entities, then? Either an entity has power 0 or it's an instrument. < 1198816653 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1198816668 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Entities are things which are soley defined by the rules. < 1198816684 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you manage to sequence your DNA and stick it in the ruleset, you're not an entity. ;) < 1198816871 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. :-) < 1198817024 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like Agora has a Rulekeepor instead of a Rulekeeper? < 1198817343 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1198817346 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tradition. < 1198817349 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno why. < 1198817362 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have to ask Rulekeepor Zefram why. < 1198817603 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rule 869 says a player is an entity. I take it this means that a player is not the human behind that player. < 1198817611 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. < 1198817624 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1198817631 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complicated ruleset, one must admit. < 1198817636 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. :-) < 1198817669 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My favorite rule is rule 2029. < 1198817726 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it the only rule with power 4? < 1198817729 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1198817752 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The scam that put it in place changed the rules to *allow* for a power 4 rule. < 1198817838 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1198818695 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, normally, I keep all this email from colleges in my inbox. < 1198818715 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this one got sent to the spam box, and I feel like keeping it there. :-) < 1198818862 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1198818872 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need to bother with that junk anymore. < 1198818886 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why bother when you're already happy with the school you're signed up for? < 1198819036 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rockford High School doesn't have many graduate-level courses. :-P < 1198819322 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm? < 1198819362 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor does Mitchell High; the point is that I have college lined up already. . . < 1198819417 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods < 1198820968 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's Plof? < 1198821016 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plof is Gregor's own functional/imperative language. < 1198821016 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR's programming language, isn't it? < 1198821033 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1198821054 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm perhaps the only non-Gregor person involved in it. < 1198821175 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :URL? < 1198821242 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codu.org/plof/ < 1198821287 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1198821295 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how it could work with PSOX.. < 1198821310 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WARNING: [UserPermissions] are unconfigured! < 1198821310 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This node is currently empty. < 1198821325 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't need to. < 1198821337 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just need to finalise the C API. < 1198821359 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh darn < 1198821375 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would anyone appreciate PSOX? < 1198821555 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1198821562 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels useless < 1198821570 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would < 1198821584 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although other things in life are keeping me away from Esome. < 1198821624 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make yourself useful! Join a nomic! < 1198821626 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1198821741 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is PSOX useful at all? < 1198821750 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is PEBBLE? < 1198821780 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoteric languages in general do tend to be useless. < 1198821800 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would people in the esolang community consider PSOX to be a good thing? < 1198821807 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or will most people ignore it? < 1198821901 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't consider it very useful as esolangy things go, really. < 1198821932 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1198821997 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I do rather expect that I consider it less useful than the average esolanger would. < 1198822023 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, howso? < 1198822059 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I perceive things, PSOX has many unnecessary features. < 1198822135 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suchas? < 1198822148 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYTING < 1198822160 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ANYTING < 1198822171 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for $10 < 1198822379 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope? < 1198822384 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that I actually think about it, my perceptions may well be flawed. The only example I can think of is PSOX automatically asking for permission for the program to do stuff. < 1198822401 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, that's changing incidentally < 1198822430 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it's becoming more useful in my mind. :-) < 1198822436 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There will be an option on the command line, so you can specify e.g. "-s nohttp" and the HTTP domain will be disabled < 1198822560 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should go to sleep soon < 1198822580 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have gone to sleep hours ago. :-P < 1198822594 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should sleep sometime tomorrow. :p < 1198822613 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1198822621 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder when i should sleep < 1198822634 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next week. < 1198822639 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1198822648 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION CTCP TIME's pikhq  < 1198822653 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't stay up that long < 1198822663 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the same as bsmntbombdood. < 1198822673 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1198822679 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time zone. < 1198822704 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1198822734 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1198822739 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are time zone buddies! < 1198822805 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CGI:IRC (EOF)" < 1198822836 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :State buddies too, last I checked. < 1198822949 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also country buddies < 1198823082 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'night all < 1198823146 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1198825578 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1198828799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1198828800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1198836375 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I improved my trombute :P < 1198838180 0 :helios_24c3!n=helios@brln-d9bacc36.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198839480 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1198840085 0 :helios_24c3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1198845052 0 :jix!n=jix@1337.chaosnase.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1198845772 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.19.82.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198846215 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1198851461 0 :oklopol_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hel p < 1198851464 0 :oklopol_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1198851769 0 :helios_24c3!i=none@1337.chaosnase.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1198853637 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1198856275 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1198856332 0 :Sgeo!n=Anonymou@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198857595 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should work on PSOX.. someone motivate me please? < 1198857705 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get to work! < 1198858904 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Sophia < 1198858907 0 :Sophia!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Sgeo < 1198859214 0 :Slereah!n=Test4@82.126.22.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859753 0 :miiro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859754 0 :helios_24c3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859757 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859757 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859757 0 :tejeez!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859757 0 :Possum!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859758 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859758 0 :oklopol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859760 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859760 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859760 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859761 0 :johnl!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859761 0 :Overand!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859763 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859765 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859766 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859767 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859768 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859768 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859768 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859768 0 :weilawei!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859768 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859768 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1198859823 0 :Slereah!n=Test4@82.126.22.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :Sgeo!n=Anonymou@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :helios_24c3!i=none@1337.chaosnase.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :oklopol_!n=ville@194.251.103.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :Slereah-!n=Test4@82.126.22.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-22-4-68.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.124.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :SimonRC!n=sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :mtve!i=mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :weilawei!n=weilawei@pool-72-70-237-75.spfdma.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@75-166-162-55.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@wilug/madlug/sekhmet JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :tesseracter!n=tesserac@pool-72-70-237-75.spfdma.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :dbc!n=daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :Overand!i=overand@dissociative.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :johnl!i=johnl@johnl.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :tejeez!n=tejeez@dsl-lhtgw2-fea7dc00-42.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :Possum!n=possum@pool-71-180-26-32.tampfl.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@haje8.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859823 0 :miiro!i=miiro@hkibrasgw1-feaadd00-120.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1198859933 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION falls asleep, or somesuch < 1198860053 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1198860221 0 :oklopol_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: sophia? < 1198861203 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-52-147.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1198862155 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1198862395 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1198862399 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198862566 0 :Hiato!n=Administ@dsl-245-15-242.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1198862587 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello all :) < 1198863151 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I would like to get some feedback from you about my esolang http://www.full0.8tt.org < 1198863254 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Lo. < 1198863301 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I gather so far, that is a diabolically clever language. < 1198863311 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks :) < 1198863326 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you please offer the documentation in a non-Windows-specific format? < 1198863343 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there is the online version which is .txt < 1198863362 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I make an RTF or an open office type format? < 1198863387 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(PS: I use Linux myself, just thought though that .doc is easier for most) < 1198863401 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML. ;) < 1198863417 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that there isn't anyone here who *uses* Windows. :p < 1198863425 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D lol < 1198863434 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. Delphi for the interpreter? < 1198863439 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes < 1198863443 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suck at C++ < 1198863450 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sobs < 1198863453 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that should work in Freepascal < 1198863455 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry) < 1198863467 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be might happy if someone ported it ;) < 1198863475 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, your download links are wrong. < 1198863487 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? Which? < 1198863503 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of them. < 1198863511 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, yes sorry < 1198863514 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will fix now < 1198863515 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You prepended a \ before them for no good reason. < 1198863520 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yip < 1198863521 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1198863591 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sory < 1198863592 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed < 1198863594 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try now < 1198863600 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Refresh page) < 1198863675 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any good now? < 1198863799 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, well I have to go now, though I will be back later. Let me know < 1198863805 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1198863992 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sohpia = some Uncyclopedia thing < 1198864642 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1198864650 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198864699 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host220-91-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1198864891 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip24-255-58-134.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198864999 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1198865476 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"bbl" < 1198866027 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1198866115 0 :Sgeo!n=Anonymou@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198867348 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-52-147.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1198870011 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :delphi or C++? what a choice < 1198870493 0 :oklopol_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1198871980 0 :Hiato!n=Administ@dsl-245-15-242.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1198872082 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-5440bd6b.wfd77a.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1198872153 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, pikhq what did you make of it? < 1198872242 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've not read the full spec; been doing a bit of housework. < 1198872250 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, no prob < 1198872264 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shall start < 1198872278 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool :) < 1198872345 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1198872388 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks :) < 1198872435 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's one of the better esolangs I've seen recently. < 1198872453 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you for your kind words :D < 1198872493 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've been quite this surprised at a language design since I saw Glass. < 1198872546 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, really? < 1198872572 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1198872576 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1198872578 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to Esome. < 1198872589 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What spec? < 1198872590 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah :) < 1198872598 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Hi Hiato and ehird` < 1198872616 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, http://full0.8tt.org < 1198872625 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what was being discussed < 1198872722 0 :oklopol_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1198872736 0 :oklopol_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks he wants to see too... < 1198872746 0 :oklopol_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1198872755 0 :oklopol_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the link isn't all *that* far away. < 1198872798 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, (nudegs oklopol's mouse pointer to the link and clicks) < 1198872832 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[x][x][0][x][x][(x=x)([(x)(x)])][(x)(x)] < 1198872890 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what you're on about there... but that is how the code looks :) < 1198872891 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSOX would be useful for this language, I guess < 1198872903 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ermm... PSOX? < 1198872914 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that just executes all of the commands for no good reason, Hiato. ;) < 1198872926 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/PSOX < 1198872927 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, yip < 1198872936 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSOX is a layer that goes between stdin/stdout and an esolang that can only do stdin/stdout. It will provide things such as file manipulation and HTTP stuff to languages like Brainfuck. < 1198872952 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1198872998 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrmm.. well I sure can't implement it in delphi ;) But, I'll look around < 1198873025 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on implementing it in Python < 1198873025 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I notice that it is * your * project Sgeo (cough cough) < 1198873030 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes it is < 1198873042 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We in Esome commonly plug our own stuff. ;p < 1198873052 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool < 1198873437 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gawd PSOX again?! < 1198873443 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1198873450 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1198873461 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most useless unneeded vaporware there is < 1198873462 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonderful < 1198873621 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonderful Full0 or POSX? Cause if it's full0 , thanks :) < 1198873633 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't bsmntbombdood supposed to do the anti-PSOX stuff? < 1198873641 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1198873710 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1198873962 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip24-255-58-134.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198873968 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re calamari < 1198873979 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re :) < 1198874086 0 :oklopol_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re.match(calamari) < 1198874112 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari = "<=K" < 1198874166 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tetrapus? < 1198874197 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :P ascii art has its limitations < 1198874223 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say < 1198874316 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I'm quitting... Bye all" < 1198874492 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host220-91-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1198874758 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re RedDak < 1198874969 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1198874970 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198875019 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will there ever be anopther Esoteric Awards Competition? < 1198875023 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*another < 1198875048 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the two last ones never were judged... < 1198875056 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1198875090 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now the last competition was just about a year ago, i think < 1198875114 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pitty, from what I could see, they were interesting < 1198875335 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever happened to that Factory language? < 1198875553 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1198876017 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1198876026 0 :tesseracter!n=tesserac@pool-72-70-237-75.spfdma.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198876267 0 :faxathisia!n=more@amcant.demon.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1198876585 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would this work? http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2384/2144871414_67e1245e41_o.jpg < 1198877355 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1198877406 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host220-91-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1198877471 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re RedDak < 1198877868 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if this is totally esoteric or not < 1198877885 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I got my code into reasonable state.. < 1198877891 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rafb.net/p/7UXJEm47.txt < 1198878028 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads the Malbolge description. < 1198878033 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mind boggles. < 1198878034 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1198878036 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198878084 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone in here think that PSOX isn't vaporware? < 1198878086 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I just realised what I pasted makes no sense < 1198878100 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSOX isn't vaporware.. ? < 1198878106 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not finished I thought < 1198878114 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ditto < 1198878118 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does vaporware mean? < 1198878120 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`, said that it's vaporware < 1198878123 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in my paste, -i is read an invert the program) < 1198878135 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh gawd PSOX again?! < 1198878135 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Of course. < 1198878135 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* calamari has quit ("Leaving") < 1198878135 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : the most useless unneeded vaporware there is < 1198878135 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : wonderful < 1198878154 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: that looks nice < 1198878162 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very haskelly < 1198878168 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the interpreter written in < 1198878177 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell < 1198878193 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have lambdas < 1198878204 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Janus? doesn't < 1198878264 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got assignment, if_then_else_fi_, from_do_loop_until_, call_, uncall_ and skip < 1198878288 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can run any of them backwards < 1198878322 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip24-255-58-134.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198878346 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi calamari < 1198878352 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Sgeo < 1198878410 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a self interpreter I need to get that running :D < 1198878475 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a lambda! < 1198878575 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you run lambda backwards? < 1198878609 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.. it couldn't close over variables either.. < 1198878804 0 :oklopol_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, reversible language without a reversible name!? < 1198878807 0 :oklopol_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what travesty < 1198878812 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will hopefully work on PSOX soonish < 1198878816 0 :oklopol_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopol < 1198878817 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has some ideas.. < 1198878833 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION too < 1198878870 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1198879074 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1198879089 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip24-255-58-134.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198879115 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick poll: do you have ideas? < 1198879132 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, yip :) < 1198879178 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant, ideas wrt PSOX < 1198879291 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1198879330 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was in no way meant as an offence, it was quite random. < 1198879342 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as are most things that i do < 1198879364 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same here, no offense intended ;) < 1198879609 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants thoughts, comments, and ideas on PSOX, not apologies < 1198879680 0 :helios_24c3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1198879838 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's your project, we only wanna exploit it once it's ready < 1198879860 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is why you're not getting that much help. < 1198879868 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, unfortunatly < 1198879910 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know a good algorithm for drawing an arbitrary graph on the screen :\ < 1198879986 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrmm... no (unsurprisingly) < 1198880027 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably np'ish < 1198880032 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know a cure for laziness? I need to write a prog, but the everpresent foe is there < 1198880160 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come bsmnt always get's to be on top :\ < 1198880164 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :aglopol < 1198880167 0 :aglopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1198880174 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1198880190 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1198880231 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :algolpol < 1198880310 0 :aglopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was what inspired the nick in the two seconds i gave thought to it < 1198880329 0 :aglopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which may be why it's this crappy. < 1198880334 0 :aglopol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklofok < 1198880355 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you gotta shuffle nicks once in a while, life gets boring otherwise < 1198880417 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where I live there's a band called fokoffpolisikar (at least I think that's how it's spelled) < 1198880420 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1198880475 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that seemed to quiet everyone down...) < 1198880532 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck off, cops!½ < 1198880571 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the 1/2 for? < 1198880776 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you know, it's kinda like !!11 < 1198880794 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's just half of it < 1198880832 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, ok :) < 1198880985 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alrighty, well I'm off, its 12:28am here in GMT+2 land. If anyone stumbles across any problems, finds any bugs, needs some info, makes any programmes, or anything relating to Full 0 just contact me at hiato1@gmail.com . Cheers :) < 1198881045 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1198881067 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing about writing a meta-circular interpreter is that you keep using new features while implementing new features you kept using before. < 1198881080 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meta-circular (meta-circular interpreter) writing) < 1198881103 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1198881149 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :program the langauge until you notice that 90% of it can be implemented using the other 10% < 1198881237 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, basically people always end up making their interpreters in SK < 1198882118 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah to heck with it < 1198882129 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :best self-interp is for the Meta language < 1198882138 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Meta language's commands: < 1198882178 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :m - Interpret some Meta code from the file specified next on the command line (advance the command line pointer forward) < 1198882188 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the eigenratio is. :P < 1198882290 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :approaches 0 < 1198882300 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it constant? < 1198882344 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can calculate the limit, then yes < 1198882362 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang idea < 1198882371 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case, you can't, since it approaches zero, although i now realize it's 1 < 1198882383 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the lambda calculus, but instead of free lambdas, you use some base functions which return lambdas < 1198882531 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: hmm, what base functions do you think would be needed? < 1198882546 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by them? < 1198882570 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of lambda arg val < 1198882572 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. < 1198882573 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, no forming new lambdas, just a given set of lambdas you can use < 1198882576 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1198882577 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1198882578 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1198882579 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid irc client < 1198882601 0 :ihope!n=474bbd72@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-457128eb2c90c6ce JOIN :#esoteric < 1198882612 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try taht again < 1198882627 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: instead of (lambda arg. val) < 1198882644 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1198882649 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have: < 1198882685 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1198882702 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1198882710 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a few pre-defined functions which take some info and return a lambda < 1198882716 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you can compose to make full lambdas < 1198882788 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i see what you mean, although that is a bit vaguee < 1198882791 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eee < 1198882802 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: yeah i don't know what functions you'd need < 1198882823 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what you'd *need* < 1198882861 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know what would be interesting, and what would take advantage of the fact you can supply some parameters for the lambda constructor. < 1198882943 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would you need? < 1198882961 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and a note < 1198882972 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :these primitive-creators /must be implementable/ in 'pure' lambda calculus < 1198882978 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like < 1198882989 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1198882998 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a harsh limit... < 1198883006 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :define my-creator (lambda x. do stuff) < 1198883008 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zap-lambda < 1198883012 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...stuff... < 1198883019 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: quite, but its still feasable < 1198883029 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only i had more power than that of lambda calculus... < 1198883219 0 :helios_24c3!i=none@1337.chaosnase.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1198883290 0 :jix!i=none@1337.chaosnase.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1198883377 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :superturing < 1198883708 0 :Jalude!n=chatzill@67.130.14.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198883779 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok! < 1198883782 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklotalk spec plz :P < 1198883817 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://paste-it.net/5459/raw/ < 1198883823 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, seems to work! < 1198883838 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although writing chars is annoying. < 1198883856 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pseudo-bf? < 1198883859 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: you wish ;) < 1198883882 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: informal spec even? < 1198883889 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just something that tells me how to parse it and what everything does! < 1198883893 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have no documentation of any command < 1198883893 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1198883897 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or any list of them even < 1198883906 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird` : Nop. Just a Turing machine. < 1198883913 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do, but it's not public < 1198883913 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: write a bf interp in it < 1198883930 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird` : Well, I tried, but I have one problem. < 1198883936 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: can it be not-public-apart-from-ehird-who-desperately-wants-to-either-implement-it-or-improve-that-it-is-impossible-to-implement < 1198883938 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a somewhat public tutorial, but it's not complete, and neither is any spec of oklotalk. < 1198883960 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sys.stdin.read doesn't seem to work on a PC. < 1198883974 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'll be damned if I have to type "enter" after each BF instruction < 1198883976 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: i still wanna see :< < 1198883989 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: why can't you just use FILES < 1198883994 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :semantics of state lists aren't yet completely specified, for one < 1198884006 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not very file friendly. < 1198884009 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: oklotalk is lexically scoped? < 1198884017 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: code = open("filename").read() < 1198884018 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :partially < 1198884026 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: and i meant in the turing machine < 1198884029 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I do plan on doing a bit that loads a file to one of the tape. < 1198884034 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: i wanna spec/tutorial even if incomplete! :< < 1198884037 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was my goal, ehird`. < 1198884044 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some of it on paper. < 1198884072 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also first class pattern matching, which can be used for dynamic scoping < 1198884072 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1198884077 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I won't use the *+<> notation to write it in. < 1198884091 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't handle input or output. < 1198884151 0 :Jalude!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]" < 1198884170 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the semantics for that are so weird i don't even wanna know what you can do with the pattern lists :P < 1198884190 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's also no way for the program to stop, but well) < 1198884224 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, the current namespace is first-class, and you can actually carry a pattern around, and match it on the fly, possibly creating variables... < 1198884251 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not pretty, and i like it <3 < 1198884392 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: WANT INFO < 1198884404 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1198884438 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really don't want you implementing it, i'm going to do it for my high school graduation, in case i fail to finish it, you can do it. < 1198884456 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do it, it kinda takes the fun out of it. < 1198884481 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, for me, and from my point of view, that's important. < 1198885180 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i won't ever fully implement it < 1198885184 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if i do it'll be crappy < 1198885187 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i won't release it < 1198885187 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1198885195 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i am going to try and do it in C < 1198885223 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if you do it for your graduation i think you might end up in the mental institution you belong in for creating oklotalk < 1198885322 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: is it "oklotalk" or "Oklotalk" or "OkloTalk" < 1198885368 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: also, does it have continuations :P < 1198885566 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to make some hamfisted file input on the tape < 1198885696 0 :dbc!n=daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1198885702 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{->[];L->'({_<:L}\L)+:L+'({_>:L}\L)} oklofok: is this still a valid qsort in oklotalk? < 1198885730 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i've cut off a few length optimizations. < 1198885749 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, actually, nm < 1198885750 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, you'r ealive, now answer my other qs too :P < 1198885758 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, wait, soon < 1198885801 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, that was never valid :) < 1198885811 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{->[];L->'({_<:L}\L)+.L+'({_>:L}\L)} < 1198885814 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that one is. < 1198885827 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about {->$;'(._<\:_)+.:+'$._<\:_} < 1198885847 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklotalk is soooo fun to read... < 1198885851 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll try to check < 1198885908 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :errr wtf xD < 1198885912 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oklotalk also has an OS under it that's somewhat attached to the language) <--- this is a joke right < 1198885941 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. but it's definitely not going to be implemented in the next 10 years at least ;) < 1198885976 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :many languages have been created to be used as oses! ...at least they did it 30 years ago < 1198886007 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: it's not tied to it though, right? just your impl :P < 1198886011 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that latter one should be {->;'(._<\:_)+._+'$._>\:_} < 1198886024 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want my implementation to be between a script interpreter and a lisp system < 1198886026 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the os is tied to oklotalk, not the other way around < 1198886046 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS is easily grabbable but it provides a unified interface specific to itself < 1198886066 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, continuations? yes, oklotalk has those, and since namespaces and the call stack are first class, you could just implement them in oklotalk < 1198886111 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, the call stack is first class. no using the c stack then < 1198886115 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :continuations are done via the special recursion function "'"... although don't remember how that worked right now ;) < 1198886123 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should write stuff down... < 1198886132 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe :P < 1198886151 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is so dynamic there's no way to be efficient. < 1198886158 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least without use of the type system < 1198886164 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and runtime compiling... < 1198886213 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, sometimes i wonder how much features i've actually thought of, without even thinking how hard they are to implement... there seems to be a complex feature for everything... < 1198886223 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, the 5 types of lists < 1198886249 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, with the new runtime parsing, i think 2/5 are implementable with oklotalk itself < 1198886252 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even 4 < 1198886286 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless explicitly compiled, a function can be reparsed at runtime why not... < 1198886319 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, tomorrow i'll start writing the spec again... asdf < 1198886321 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will not be compiling or optimizing oklotalk < 1198886328 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just impossible :-) < 1198886333 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you can make a partial interpreter. < 1198886353 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :methinks oklotalk compilers if they ever exist will include big chunks of interpreter < 1198886366 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it'll take as long as Lisp took :-) < 1198886370 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lisp isn't even THAT dynamic! < 1198886384 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they must, since you can in theory just reparse anything at anytime...