00:04:28 "For some reason most people seem to be born without the part of the brain that understands pointers." 00:05:00 don't worry. 00:05:25 In a few million years, when evolutive pressure kills those people, a new era of programming will dawn. 00:07:03 i don't understand how people don't understand pointers 00:07:42 Sure, it's hard. . . At first. . . 00:07:55 Just do a bit of programming in C, and you figure it out rather quickly. 00:10:13 of co urse everyone here understands pointers and fiunds it impossible to believe that maybe others don't 00:10:16 this is #esoteric :-) 00:10:31 but it's true -- there really are people who can do everything but pointers, they just don't get them at all and never will 00:16:18 :-o 00:24:25 -!- puzzlet_ has joined. 00:30:22 -!- puzzlet__ has joined. 00:36:24 -!- puzzlet has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 00:44:36 -!- puzzlet_ has quit (Connection timed out). 00:46:54 Pointers, eh? 00:47:13 I understand pointers AND monads! Muahaha... 00:47:24 -!- ehird` has quit. 00:47:28 Monads, a 0 dimensional object? 00:47:39 Monads, the category theory thingy. 00:47:52 I don't know any category theory 00:47:57 Since monads are from category theory and I understand monads, I really should study category theory, eh? 00:48:29 Well, I understand the Holocaust, that doesn't mean I should do it! 00:50:01 Also, I'm suddenly grinning: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Arimaa/Overview 00:50:19 "Arimaa is a two-player board game invented by Omar Syed, a computer engineer trained in artificial intelligence. Syed was inspired by Garry Kasparov's defeat at the hands of the chess computer Deep Blue to design a new game which would be difficult for computers to play well, but would have rules simple enough for his four-year-old son Aamir to understand" 00:52:20 -!- sebbu has quit ("@+"). 00:52:30 -!- puzzlet__ has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:58:25 It seems to me that the shorter something is made, the easier it is for me to understand it. Maybe that's just because long things bore me. 01:00:44 -!- puzzlet has joined. 01:00:51 I'd love a description of category theory such as this: "An A is a set of Bs and Cs following certain axioms. A C has a D and an E, which are both Bs. The axioms: if you have two Cs x and y such that x's E is y's D, then there is a C z such that z's D is x's D and z's E is y's E; and for every B x, there is a C whose D and E are both x." 01:05:46 There, a few quick questions and a bit of prior knowledge and now I know category theory. 01:07:21 -!- RodgerTheGreat has joined. 01:07:27 are there any pathfinding algorithms like A* that take a heuristic that always over-estimates? 01:08:14 bsmntbombdood: I think that A* should work if the heuristic always overestimates by like a constant scale factor 01:08:23 (work meaning find the shortest path) 01:09:04 sure, because you can just divide by the factor... 01:09:20 without having to I mean 01:09:27 but I'm not certain 02:06:01 -!- calamari has joined. 03:29:52 -!- ihope_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 03:35:10 -!- immibis has joined. 04:08:54 -!- immibis has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 04:34:58 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 04:40:35 -!- oerjan has joined. 04:57:19 ihope: you could certainly define a _category_ like that, problem is that category theory theory consists of a _lot_ of definitions on top of that. however at least at the beginning most of them are similarly simple. 04:57:52 ihope, you are now being pwned by the Mathematician. 04:58:53 now now, when i say "at least at the beginning" that more or less means "as far as i go to". the parts of category theory other fields tend to use rarely go beyond the basics. 04:58:59 *got ot 04:59:01 *got to 04:59:51 the Mathematician should have been a Tarot card, although i like the Magician too... 05:00:12 I can do the Magician. 05:00:17 * pikhq plays Magic: The Gathering. ;) 05:00:20 "Tarot just got a _lot_ more sinister..." 05:00:27 :) 05:00:51 * pikhq plays Shatterstorm. 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09:05:22 >>> in-pr hello 09:05:22 hello 09:05:44 1l lol 09:07:18 >>> axo 09:07:29 -!- encoded|lap has left (?). 09:08:20 !axo oko 09:51:43 -!- Tritonio_ has joined. 10:04:50 -!- jix has joined. 10:06:27 -!- jix has quit (Nick collision from services.). 10:06:35 -!- jix has joined. 10:10:43 -!- Tritonio_ has quit (Remote closed the connection). 10:36:50 -!- sebbu has joined. 12:07:09 -!- ais523 has joined. 12:07:50 -!- mtve has quit ("Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.0.5"). 12:08:24 -!- mtve has joined. 12:54:55 -!- pikhq has joined. 13:22:45 -!- jix has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 13:31:29 -!- jix has joined. 13:36:39 -!- oerjan has joined. 13:51:52 -!- ais523 has quit. 14:39:04 -!- SEO_DUDE has quit (Excess Flood). 15:29:45 -!- clayrat has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 15:36:05 -!- puzzlet has quit (Remote closed the connection). 15:36:09 -!- puzzlet has joined. 15:36:39 -!- faxathisia has joined. 16:05:33 -!- ihope_ has joined. 16:09:28 -!- oerjan_ has joined. 16:14:14 -!- oerjan has quit (Nick collision from services.). 16:14:43 -!- oerjan_ has changed nick to oerjan. 16:53:03 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving"). 16:56:09 -!- ihope__ has joined. 16:56:47 -!- Slereah has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 16:58:21 -!- Slereah has joined. 16:59:10 -!- SEO_DUDE has joined. 17:03:25 -!- RedDak has joined. 17:09:10 -!- ais523 has joined. 17:11:36 -!- ihope___ has joined. 17:11:57 -!- ihope_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 17:12:06 -!- ihope___ has changed nick to ihope_. 17:19:43 -!- SEO_DUDE has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 17:24:38 -!- ihope__ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 17:57:18 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 18:28:11 -!- Sgeo has joined. 18:53:40 o 18:58:17 -!- Tritonio_ has joined. 18:59:50 :D 19:08:45 faxathisia: do you have a history of using another nick, or are you relatively new here? 19:09:01 * faxathisia is new 19:09:01 or option 3: something else 19:09:06 somethinhg else! 19:12:02 i may already have asked, but i don't remember; what's the biggest amount of regulars there have been here 19:12:19 in case someone here remembers 19:12:34 i know at least a few regulars have effectively stopped idling here 19:13:41 I don't think anybody's done a "regular count" :p 19:14:47 no official one prolly, but most people occasionally take a glance at the userlist 19:15:19 Userlist != list of regulars 19:15:27 so... has there like been a time when 100 ppl idled here regularly 19:15:35 Oh, IDLERS 19:15:40 Regulars to me = people who talk :P 19:15:55 idling was a more general word here 19:16:24 like a relaxed form of being somewhere 19:16:33 *lol* 19:18:31 i'll rephrase my question, has the average usercount been over 50 for over a week at some point of this channel's existance 19:22:21 can you run wireworld backwards? 19:22:48 faxathisia: No. 19:23:10 I mean list all predecessors for a state? 19:23:17 faxathisia: No. 19:23:23 why? 19:23:55 One example: KKKWWTHWKKK -> KKKWWWTHKKK -> KKKWWWWTKKK -> KKKWWWWWKKK 19:24:29 Or, to put it more simply, the next state of KKKWWWWWKKK is KKKWWWWWKKK, but the next state of KKKWWWWTKKK is also KKKWWWWWKKK 19:31:28 i am making some apple wine :D 19:33:17 you can definately list all the possible predecessors for a state, though 19:33:21 definitely 19:34:02 -!- RedDak has quit (Remote closed the connection). 19:36:17 -!- Tritonio_ has quit (Remote closed the connection). 19:44:21 oklopol: Sure, but that's hardly reversing it :P 19:50:10 no one said anything about reversing! 19:50:17 well, no one said the exact word. 19:50:45 what can you call listing all possible predecessors? 19:50:58 inverting or something 19:51:51 i can has fermentation! 19:53:15 bsmntbombdood: can has taste? 19:53:32 your apple wines that is' 19:55:50 ? 19:58:52 i hope this turns out good 19:59:45 can i taste your juices, is what i'm asking 20:00:11 ummmm 20:00:16 you want me to mail you some? 20:00:56 yes, please 20:01:58 how about you visit your local supermarket and get some 20:02:01 much faster 20:02:22 oh, or do you mean _my_ juices? 20:02:26 :P 20:04:47 EgoBot: help 20:04:52 ? 20:05:02 >> unlambda ```s``s``sii`ki`k.*``s``s`ks``s`k`s`ks``s``s`ks``s`k`s`kr``s`k`sikk`k``s`ksk 20:09:00 >>> ul ```s``s``sii`ki`k.*``s``s`ks``s`k`s`ks``s``s`ks``s`k`s`kr``s`k`sikk`k``s`ksk 20:09:09 >>> ski ```s``s``sii`ki`k.*``s``s`ks``s`k`s`ks``s``s`ks``s`k`s`kr``s`k`sikk`k``s`ksk 20:09:12 >>> sk ```s``s``sii`ki`k.*``s``s`ks``s`k`s`ks``s``s`ks``s`k`s`kr``s`k`sikk`k``s`ksk 20:09:16 >>> help 20:09:17 These are all the cmds currently in ololobot: 20:09:17 bf, bs, expr, help, numbda, pl, ul, dict, feed, sch, choose, rt, d, o, x, k, i, s, factors, in-pr, in-po, in-fi 20:09:30 >>> ul i 20:09:30 -> i 20:09:50 >>> ul `ii 20:09:50 -> i 20:09:57 >>> ul ```s``s``sii`ki`k.*``s``s`ks``s`k`s`ks``s``s`ks``s`k`s`kr``s`k`sikk`k``s`ksk 20:34:37 oh 20:34:40 r 20:34:44 it does not support that 20:35:02 >>> ul ```s``s``sii`ki`k.*``s``s`ks``s`k`s`ks``s``s`ks``s`k`s`k*r``s`k`sikk`k``s`ksk 20:35:07 >>> ul ```s``s``sii`ki`k.*``s``s`ks``s`k`s`ks``s``s`ks``s`k`s`k.r``s`k`sikk`k``s`ksk 20:40:22 Nums = "seven" withkey 7,"one" withkey 1,"three" withkey 3 20:40:22 sort Nums 20:40:22 out (Val foreach Nums) 20:47:56 it's bubbling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 21:25:29 >>> bf >++++++++++[<+++++++++++>-]<+.>++++[<---->-]<..>++++[<++++>-]<. 21:30:00 >:| 21:32:06 -!- ihope_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 21:37:10 hmm 21:37:19 >>> bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+. 21:37:27 ... 21:38:21 bsmntbombdood: what are you sorting? 21:38:31 sorting? 21:38:51 heh 21:40:00 i don't get it 21:42:48 o__o 21:42:48 A 21:43:05 heh 21:43:09 []:D 21:43:52 nice, a spontaneous 5 minute lag :) 21:43:58 got ping timeouted in quakenet 21:44:17 anyhow, bubbles 21:44:29 sort 21:44:51 i need to sleep a bit -> 21:48:24 the juice is bubbling 21:48:30 not bubble sort >_< 21:52:03 -!- jix has quit ("CommandQ"). 22:10:41 -!- ihope___ has joined. 22:10:47 -!- ihope___ has changed nick to ihope_. 22:11:58 http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2003/0729moore.html 22:16:15 -!- puzzlet has quit (Remote closed the connection). 22:16:20 -!- puzzlet has joined. 22:23:36 -!- puzzlet has quit (Remote closed the connection). 22:23:38 -!- puzzlet_ has joined. 22:42:31 -!- SEO_DUDE has joined. 22:44:12 -!- puzzlet_ has quit (Remote closed the connection). 22:44:13 -!- puzzlet has joined. 22:44:14 -!- puzzlet has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 22:49:14 -!- puzzlet has joined. 23:08:39 -!- SEO_DUDE has quit (Remote closed the connection). 23:10:12 -!- puzzlet has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 23:11:06 -!- puzzlet has joined. 23:23:05 -!- ihope_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 23:25:11 -!- Jontte has quit ("Konversation terminated!"). 23:39:24 -!- sebbu has quit ("@+"). 23:49:38 -!- pikhq has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).