< 1195517429 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195517727 0 :Tritonio_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195517930 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmm < 1195517944 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"... was almost the victim of an assassination attempt by ..." < 1195517954 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you be /almost/ a victim of an assassination /attempt/? < 1195518513 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm 7?!? < 1195518534 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(granted, I *was* when I acquired the name) < 1195518775 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did you come up with pikhq? < 1195519426 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+" < 1195519872 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to create a website called "Pikachu's Headquarters", or "pikhq" for short. < 1195519944 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-8 < 1195519959 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq.respect -= infinity; < 1195520071 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: At the age of 7. < 1195520090 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before anything but the Pokemon game was released in the US. < 1195520095 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before the game was even popular. < 1195520098 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may bite me. < 1195521007 0 :Tritonio_!n=Tritonio@150.140.225.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195523143 0 :SEO_DUDE!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195523214 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where can I find an interpreter or compiler for Unlambda on windows? < 1195525714 0 :SEO_DUDE!i=Deee@gateway/tor/x-020a567907b77179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195526463 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikachu's headquarters LOL < 1195526471 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: don't use windows < 1195526499 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you've graduated to magic < 1195526576 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last time I tried to install Linux, I had bad surprises. < 1195526582 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not very computer savvy. < 1195526612 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could use the on-CD version, but it's a whole lot of trouble. < 1195526843 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh interesting: http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=365703&cid=21415869 < 1195528343 0 :immibis!n=immibis@125-236-168-115.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1195528371 0 :Tritonio_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195528662 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1195528664 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see seccomp < 1195528723 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been signed up to two online sites, by someone else, WITHOUT HIS PERMISSION. < 1195528785 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg < 1195528787 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stfu < 1195528866 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seccomp keeps your proccess from using ANY syscall but exit,read,write,sigreturn < 1195528947 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's secure enough to run arbitrary code >_< < 1195530092 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Hi Im a qit msg virus. Pls rplce ur old qit msg wit tis 1 & hlp me tk ovr th wrld of IRC. Now if you will excuse me, I have a < 1195530657 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=saru@219-89-43-212.dialup.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1195530793 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nogm < 1195531537 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195531571 0 :SEO_DUDE!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195532179 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195532918 0 :SEO_DUDE!i=Deee@gateway/tor/x-2e0c079e5c8e38de JOIN :#esoteric < 1195542359 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1195542896 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=saru@219-89-43-212.dialup.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1195543804 0 :immibis!n=immibis@125-236-168-115.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1195544310 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codu.org/plof/plof3.html (RFC on just the internal stack language) < 1195545599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1195545600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1195545626 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Hi Im a qit msg virus. Pls rplce ur old qit msg wit tis 1 & hlp me tk ovr th wrld of IRC. IceChat - Keeping PC's cool since 2 < 1195546512 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Pam... Which way you going, left or right? < 1195546519 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right! < 1195546524 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's too bad... < 1195546530 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1195546537 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it was a fifty fifty shot on wheter you'd be going left or right. You see we're both going left. You could have just as easily been going left, too. And if that was the case... It would have been a while before you started getting scared. But since you're going the other way, I'm afraid you're gonna have to start getting scared... immediately! < 1195548579 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Every time you screw up AWOS, GreaseMonkey kills a kitten." < 1195561424 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-041-244.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1195562721 0 :Tritonio_!n=Tritonio@150.140.225.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195563424 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1195564149 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't ```sii`.ai print a double a? < 1195564814 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, got it. No `.a.a < 1195564833 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or did I? < 1195564834 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rargh. < 1195564928 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :``.ai`.ai works, why not ```sii`.ai? < 1195568659 0 :ehird`_!n=ehird@user-514d22af.l1.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1195568706 0 :ehird`_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird` < 1195568729 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i notice the logs linked has changed < 1195568734 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ircbrowse not 1337 enough? :P < 1195568811 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1195568936 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@nat-1.elb.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1195568938 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1195568942 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1195568964 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-514d22af.l1.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1195569347 0 :ehird1!n=test@user-514d22af.l1.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1195570080 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1195570418 0 :dbc!n=daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1195571360 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1195572357 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-74-162.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1195573366 0 :ehird1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1195573647 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-514d22af.l1.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1195575018 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195575025 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195575631 0 :Sgeo!n=Anonymou@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1195576623 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqoddleberg < 1195577192 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195577197 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195577276 0 :asie_dead!n=asiekier@nat-1.elb.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1195577303 0 :asie_dead!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for an easy to implement esoteric language that's not brainfuck, not deadfish, and has under 7 commands. < 1195577329 0 :asie_dead!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :asiekierka < 1195577331 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1195577341 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1195577347 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@nat-1.elb.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1195577354 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, i'm back < 1195577356 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so waiting for answer < 1195577359 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka of course being the only person in #esoteric who couldn't just make their own in 2 minutes < 1195577364 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you're waiting for an answer < 1195577365 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1195577371 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :next time i'll be less than 60 seconds < 1195577394 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can make my own esoteric language. < 1195577399 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it'll never get popular < 1195577400 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1195577413 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :under 7 commands, and the commands must have NO parameters. < 1195577439 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the commands! < 1195577443 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any. < 1195577445 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANY. < 1195577452 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will eventually modify it a bit < 1195577453 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1195577493 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a little difficulty to see what's the language! < 1195577504 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not guessing. < 1195577506 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But < 1195577509 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINDING < 1195577516 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you find a good language, you get a prize! < 1195577544 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tried Deadfish in "ZZT", a real old GCS, i replaced square with multiply by 2, but the multiply command is (not so) slightly buggy. < 1195577545 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does it < 1195577559 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but after i multiply 64 by 2, it dosen't do every second command. < 1195577582 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip24-255-58-134.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1195577605 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: 'get popular'? < 1195577608 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell do you care < 1195577622 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1195577627 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I care about my esoteric language being used more than by 1 person (me). < 1195577643 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if it'll be okay, who'll use it? < 1195577649 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There will be better alternatives. < 1195577659 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck (implemented in exact same GCS. 2 TIMES) < 1195577667 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Piet < 1195577668 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etc < 1195577668 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etc < 1195577670 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make it awful. < 1195577681 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1195577681 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will attract people! < 1195577683 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will put increment, but not decrement. < 1195577689 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1195577697 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will put output, but not input. < 1195577708 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will put start of a loop, but not an end < 1195577726 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, make it TC, also! < 1195577735 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TC? < 1195577737 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teh Crap? < 1195577744 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that people can try to make stuff with it! < 1195577747 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing Complete. < 1195577756 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1195577768 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A thing dosen't need turing-compleetness to do it < 1195577779 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1195577781 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A thing dosen't need turing-compl33tness to do it < 1195577794 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, what will it be able to do! < 1195577798 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or like, "That thing dosen't need turing-compl33tness to do it, right?" < 1195577803 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poke fun at the programmer. < 1195578366 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, Slereah: < 1195578367 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it is often a self-imposed constraint, there is no burden on an esoteric programming language designer to make their language Turing-complete. For instance, it seems reasonable that most esolangers would rather see a language which is interesting but not Turing-complete, over a language which is Turing-complete but uninteresting. < 1195578373 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? < 1195578422 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not: < 1195578422 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it is often a self-imposed constraint, there is no burden on an esoteric programming language designer to make their language Turing-complete. For instance, it seems reasonable that most esolangers would rather see a language which is interesting but not Turing-complete, over a language which is Turing-complete but uninteresting. < 1195578432 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I know! < 1195578597 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What commands/possibilities should be there to make a language Turing-complete? < 1195578615 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, with up to 7 commands and NO params for commands possible, it'll be a turing tarpit < 1195578658 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard to say. You just need to be able to recreate any other TC language. < 1195578674 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some pretty strange ways for that. < 1195578725 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean? < 1195578736 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange ways? < 1195578748 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is there any other possibility than recreating another language? < 1195578779 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TC just mean that it is equivalent to a Turing machine. < 1195578791 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is, you should be able to recreate one with the language. < 1195578802 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will just make a language then. < 1195578854 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have 58 bits to use. < 1195578854 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< - move west < 1195578854 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) - move east and flip < 1195578864 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Output is there already (not a command) < 1195578879 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shown < 1195578881 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now tell me < 1195578888 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do ya think? < 1195578920 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything outputs as the head moves? < 1195578927 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Won't that be a little messy? < 1195578933 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bits are shown < 1195578934 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on-screen < 1195578950 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have 58 bits to use. < 1195578950 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< - move west < 1195578950 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) - move east and flip < 1195578950 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ - if the bit is 0, skip the next command < 1195578952 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1195578952 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1195578978 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do ya think? < 1195578994 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1195579035 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the moving loop back? < 1195579050 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... moving loop back? < 1195579074 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I'm not very good with technical term < 1195579083 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now that I think of it, my question doesn't make sense. < 1195579086 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, does the tape wrap around? < 1195579090 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1195579102 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have 58 bits to use. < 1195579102 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< - move west < 1195579102 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) - move east and flip < 1195579102 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ - if the bit is 0, skip the next command. < 1195579102 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} - move to the previous command < 1195579105 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1195579110 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have 58 bits to use. < 1195579110 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< - move west < 1195579110 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) - move east and flip < 1195579111 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ - if the bit is 0, skip the next command. < 1195579113 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} - move 2 commands back < 1195579115 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here goes < 1195579125 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gawd, is asiekierka at it again < 1195579132 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now wait < 1195579136 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait* < 1195579137 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll fix it < 1195579170 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1195579182 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1195579183 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1195579185 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully < 1195579185 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have 58 bits to use. < 1195579185 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< - move west < 1195579185 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) - move east and flip < 1195579185 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ - if the bit is 0, skip the next command. < 1195579187 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} - move to the matching [ if the bit is 1. < 1195579189 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n - nop < 1195579191 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 command < 1195579193 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1195579200 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here we go! < 1195579205 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: brainfuck is not a turing tarpit < 1195579214 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it is, just a very bloated one < 1195579233 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.16.82.135 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195579238 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has 6+io < 1195579239 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO the best turing tarpit is either a Minsky machine with two registers of some sort or Bitwise Cyclic Tag < 1195579246 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<)[n)} < 1195579252 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iota brings far too many semantics in with it to really be minimal < 1195579252 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it will flip the 1st bit < 1195579273 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195579273 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your definition of a Turing tarpit. < 1195579276 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then move and NOT. < 1195579276 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1195579293 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine? < 1195579309 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: subjective < 1195579309 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`. < 1195579313 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1195579319 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about my crappy language? < 1195579329 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: semantics must be minimal, so must the syntax < 1195579336 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well the same thing can be achieved with < 1195579336 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iota has minimal syntax but a lot of semantics < 1195579337 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<[n)} < 1195579345 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 commands < 1195579351 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to see if I can make the very first Turing program with it. < 1195579351 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What now? < 1195579358 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1195579365 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nops are optional < 1195579367 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka's language is not TC based on intuition < 1195579368 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : } - move to the previous command <<< this woudl totally own xD < 1195579372 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may not be right < 1195579375 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is just 01010101... < 1195579382 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1195579384 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with your new } definition < 1195579391 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its most likely turing complete < 1195579398 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really it's very similar to brainfuck.. < 1195579402 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY new } definition? or oklopol's? < 1195579405 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well i know it is < 1195579421 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was designed to be as easy to implement (in ZZT, an old GCS) as possible < 1195579442 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1195579446 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION intuits < 1195579477 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is gcs anyway < 1195579478 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm dumb < 1195579483 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Game Creation System < 1195579490 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzt -> zzt.belsambar.net < 1195579496 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check it < 1195579501 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are 2 BF interpreters < 1195579502 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, i guess you haven't learned C yet < 1195579503 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you have bitchanger with do...while instead of while < 1195579509 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not suprised. < 1195579523 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZZT is so limited, i srsly like it. < 1195579525 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is perhaps bitter from his previous experience with asiekierka  < 1195579528 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I LIKE LIMITS. < 1195579549 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone thought of that some time ago < 1195579549 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't remember who < 1195579560 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka likes command bondage. < 1195579565 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1195579566 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that zzt < 1195579575 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still < 1195579578 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: what was that experience? < 1195579580 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty lame < 1195579587 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyhow, it is most likely tc. < 1195579610 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case i got the semantics right < 1195579614 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: he was annoying, repeated stuff a lot, had a bot which basically flooded the channel, and kept whining about how he was only 10 years old as an excuse for all this < 1195579632 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cool :P < 1195579632 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember that < 1195579636 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i see log? < 1195579646 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i could search myself < 1195579650 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beh, i dunno when it was < 1195579651 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that long ago < 1195579657 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a month or two max < 1195579660 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt THIS is turing-complete: < 1195579660 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have 58 bits to use, they are by default 01010101010101... < 1195579660 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z - swap the bit and the bit near it. < 1195579660 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ - if the bit is 0, skip the next command. < 1195579678 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, it was like, three or four months < 1195579679 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry. < 1195579705 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :near it :P < 1195579715 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not tc < 1195579724 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what it lacks? < 1195579730 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :define 'near' < 1195579733 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1195579739 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you made the array infinitely extensible < 1195579742 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its trivially non-TC by your definition even ignoring commands < 1195579744 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since, 58 max bits < 1195579753 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1195579753 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the limit of ZZT < 1195579754 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not mine < 1195579756 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got ya? < 1195579758 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What else? < 1195579765 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the halting problem cannot be solved for a turing complete language, it can for yours. < 1195579776 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*be < 1195579806 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yours will always halt because the code is finite, and after every step, one command is lost. < 1195579815 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(= you can't loop) < 1195579825 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have 58 bits to use, they are by default 01010101010101... < 1195579825 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z - swap the bit and the bit near it. < 1195579825 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ - if the bit is 0, skip the next command. If the bit is 1, jump to the previous command. < 1195579829 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I toyed around MORE. < 1195579830 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a crazy way of proving non-TCness/TCness < 1195579839 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now i can loop... sorta. < 1195579841 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The halting problem is impossible to solve in this language! Therefore, it is TC." < 1195579842 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1195579848 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: not TC < 1195579851 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: an infinite-loop instruction won't help ya ;) < 1195579855 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What it lacks AGAIN? < 1195579868 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1195579881 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: i never said it works that way too < 1195579883 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not does it. < 1195579884 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1195579884 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1195579889 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nor < 1195579907 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: it lascks skill < 1195579915 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just add some of that, and you've got a decent language < 1195579917 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1195579922 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have 58 bits to use, they are by default 01010101010101... The tape wraps around. < 1195579922 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z - swap the bit and the bit near it, then move the pointer east. < 1195579922 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ - if the bit is 0, skip the next command and move the pointer west. If the bit is 1, jump to the previous command. < 1195579928 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lacks < 1195579931 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1195579937 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`, please, help me! < 1195579947 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: are you going to pee your pants if i don't??? < 1195579949 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH NO DISASTER < 1195579951 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH < 1195579953 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELP < 1195579980 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's invoke the ghost of Alan Turing. < 1195579980 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: you need to be able to jump backward *any* amount of commands < 1195579993 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make 3 1's < 1195579996 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 3 [[['s. < 1195579999 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1195580000 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1195580003 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1195580012 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to say anything but lol here :\ < 1195580034 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have 58 bits to use, they are by default 01010101010101... The tape wraps around. < 1195580034 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z - swap the bit and the bit near it, then move the pointer east. < 1195580034 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ - if the bit is 0, skip the next command and move the pointer west. If the bit is 1, jump 1 instruction after the nearest [, or 1 instruction after if there's none. < 1195580044 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you can any. < 1195580046 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess. < 1195580064 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :methinks asiekierka should learn about how languages work before trying to write one < 1195580082 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S an esoteric language < 1195580083 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot? < 1195580176 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1195580183 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot you can make esolangs < 1195580187 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without knowing about languages! < 1195580190 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly amazing < 1195580193 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1195580206 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was meant to be weird AND minimal. < 1195580225 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang != lang < 1195580233 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esojokelange != esolang != lang < 1195580241 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my esolang != esojokelang != esolang != lang < 1195580245 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :discuss. < 1195580249 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1195580251 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they technically all are a subset of languages. < 1195580257 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1195580267 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who tested mine against Turing-compleetness? < 1195580278 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My keyboard doesn't have a belong sign, butt. < 1195580282 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1195580289 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Belong? < 1195580299 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The stylised epsilon. < 1195580306 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1195580310 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's the test? < 1195580330 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: you guessed wrong, anyhow, i agree with ehird` here < 1195580333 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(asiekierka does not realise not everyone is interested in every single thing he does every second of their day) < 1195580360 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am < 1195580364 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: you really 10? < 1195580367 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1195580371 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nearly 11, in fact < 1195580372 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from poland < 1195580380 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. Poland. < 1195580402 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're really interesed in every esolang i do every minute of you're day, #asie_esolangs < 1195580413 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be the OFFICIAL BETA-TEST PAGE BEFORE PUBLISHING HERE < 1195580430 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, maybe later :P < 1195580436 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, join #asie_esolangs if you're interesed in every esolang i do every minute of your day. < 1195580447 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm very limited by time, going in a hour or so < 1195580456 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish i was 10 and knew what esolangs are... < 1195580470 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1195580511 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't knew how to program until I was 19. < 1195580525 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolangs were a long way off! < 1195580540 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, another one older than me < 1195580553 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How old are you? < 1195580768 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka is 10 < 1195580788 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm 18 < 1195580793 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'kay. < 1195580802 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's the median < 1195580806 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever it's called < 1195580872 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :median is correct, how lucky < 1195580887 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, the value with the largest population? < 1195581028 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1195581028 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the least intuitive one of them all. < 1195581357 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1195581563 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna do some pointless math now, cya -> < 1195581604 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1195581622 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka is now having a seizuer < 1195581627 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*seizure < 1195581652 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1195581662 0 :jix!n=jix@host-091-096-148-139.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1195582285 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I'm quitting... Bye all" < 1195583242 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I announce PSL as an esoteric language, then will you give me comments on it? :P < 1195583253 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will check it out. < 1195583275 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codu.org/plof/plof3.html (It's not an esolang, but I want it to be a usable stacklanguage before I build a real language on it) < 1195583704 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1195583877 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, pass judgment unto my bytecode! < 1195583977 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BYTECODE, THOU WILT PERISH IN THE SEA THAT BURNETH WITH FIRE AND SULPHUR < 1195583983 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracias. < 1195583992 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But more specifically, http://www.codu.org/plof/plof3.html < 1195584013 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's partially modeled on Glass (weeeh stack-based object-oriented languages) < 1195584060 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I SEE. IN THAT CASE, REPLACE SULPHUR BY SILICON. < 1195584094 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VERY GOOD, SIR. < 1195584096 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be appropriate for programs in any case < 1195584104 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burning in fire and silicon? < 1195584109 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I know you can write code in it :P < 1195584134 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I want comments like: "You ought to have an operation to make easier" or "shouldn't be done with ?" < 1195584216 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find it somewhat amusing that you think i am competent on such matters. or sad, perhaps. < 1195584224 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1195584250 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I need jix's opinion, since PSL should be reminiscent of Glass. < 1195584420 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: the burning in fire and ... bit is a bit redundant, i guess, it's translated from norwegian. (it was weird there too) < 1195584454 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it is a poetic licence. < 1195585382 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Where can I find an interpreter or compiler for Unlambda on windows? < 1195585400 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found one. Sort of. < 1195585405 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just download an interpreter or compiler for one of the languages it's been implemented in < 1195585424 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I asked because the C version I found didn't compile. < 1195585440 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I got Hug for Haskell and the Unlambda for Haskell. < 1195585447 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the c-refcnt one is most portable < 1195585458 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel less manly with the Hug program in my computer, but it works. < 1195585468 0 :Tritonio_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1195585469 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, there are several unlambdas in haskell (one is mine) < 1195585488 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it isn't very practical. I must not make one typo, or the program crashes or launch! < 1195585493 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use ghc and compile it properly < 1195585497 0 :Tritonio_!n=Tritonio@150.140.228.182 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195585498 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc? < 1195585508 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the glasgow haskell compiler < 1195585535 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to get it IIRC. < 1195585561 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mainly downloaded the first Haskell that had a .exe instead of them .gz extensions. < 1195585569 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels like torturing norns < 1195585582 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. Creatures. < 1195585587 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a while! < 1195585683 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is making something that will torture to death any norns that come in from the warp < 1195585695 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR! < 1195585698 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minimize your instruction set. < 1195585727 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need most of that crap if you add some memory and some read/store instructions < 1195585733 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. "array" can be implemented in it trivially < 1195585752 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also make push0-push8 a "grab" thing, which takes the number off the top of the stack < 1195587029 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/screenshots/plne_fun_1.png < 1195587071 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Creature is this? < 1195587106 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They made any after the 3? < 1195587113 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or am I just of short memory. < 1195587130 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Docking Station < 1195587136 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's free < 1195587146 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you have Creatures 3, you can dock it to DS < 1195587151 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ``.ai`.ai works, why not ```sii`.ai? < 1195587162 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://creatures.wikia.com/wiki/Docking_Station < 1195587178 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked another chan for that. Apparently the .x isn't evaluated at the end or something! < 1195587181 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because unlambda is strictly evaluated, `.ai is evaluated only once < 1195587192 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the result being i < 1195587208 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is passed to the result of ``sii < 1195587275 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much for the mockingbird. < 1195587293 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however ``sii works fine in other situations < 1195587313 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes. But how does the repeat printing works then? < 1195587328 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one? < 1195587348 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if ANSI Common Lisp counts as an esolang < 1195587349 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. < 1195587383 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, repeating printing something without just writing it a lot. < 1195587403 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry, I just don't know many technical terms. < 1195587450 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinitely or a fixed number of times? church numerals are nice for the latter < 1195587492 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How will Church numeral works any differently than in the SII case? < 1195587510 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :````sii.ai should work, btw < 1195587544 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll lambda that, see if I can understand better! < 1195587586 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or alternatively, ``.ai for a church numeral < 1195587613 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1195587633 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if Common Lisp >IS< esoteric then it's probably the most widely deployed and praised esolang < 1195587674 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. So I have (.a.a)I instead of (.aI)(.aI) < 1195587678 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1195587684 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaargh < 1195587717 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the application of .a that prints the a < 1195587722 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll just have to read the full unlambda page. < 1195587733 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matter what you apply it to < 1195587745 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.a = i, except for the printing < 1195587753 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, thoughts on DS? < 1195587767 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i notice the logs linked has changed < 1195587775 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but if I just write `.a.a, there's only one a. < 1195587781 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DS? < 1195587790 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: Docking Station, i would imagine < 1195587791 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i changed it when ircbrowse was dead for several days < 1195587793 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as he last linked to it < 1195587796 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah :) < 1195587800 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1195587810 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's been a while since I played Creature 3. < 1195587810 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could change it back now if we want < 1195587819 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't really like that much the spaceship concept. < 1195587819 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get DS! < 1195587839 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that's worse as far as a spaceship concept I guess < 1195587852 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the um.. world is in space < 1195587861 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Capillata I think < 1195587867 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it already was in the 3! < 1195587876 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly the 2 as well, I don't remember. < 1195587886 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just that the 1 wasn't. < 1195587898 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But with DS, your norns can travel to other players' worlds.. < 1195587905 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they can come to your world < 1195587908 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it is rather slow at the time, so i don't think so < 1195587937 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm working on a device that will torture and kill norns that come to my world, so beware lol < 1195587937 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, it didn't load at all < 1195587970 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With that mud cannon thing? < 1195588013 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, no, although that is a possibility I guess < 1195588016 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone rate the evilness of this idea from 1-10: < 1195588022 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compiling Brainfuck code to JVM bytecode. < 1195588030 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh yes I am writing a program to do that!) < 1195588042 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1195588055 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pff, just 3? < 1195588055 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making my own agent, and it will effectively slap incoming norns repeatedly, and make sure they DIE < 1195588066 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make them feel PAIN! < 1195588068 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is easy to compile < 1195588073 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, but to the fucking JVM < 1195588074 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1195588079 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so i hear, never tried :D < 1195588082 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will also send a message to whoever sent me the norn < 1195588087 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if your norns come near it? < 1195588095 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I could never do that when playing Creatures. I always felt sorry for the poor thing after about 3 slaps :P < 1195588098 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing to do with proximity < 1195588108 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will do it to all incoming norns < 1195588116 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will be invisible too < 1195588122 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although you can hear the shouts < 1195588122 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if your norns leave and come back? :O < 1195588125 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I might have had less of a problem with it if they didn't keep trying to tell me to stop in the process < 1195588141 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then my norns die, I care for them LESS than innocent norns from the warp < 1195588150 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1195588159 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if your innocent Grendels die? < 1195588175 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's going to attack any incoming creatures < 1195588177 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: can you get that bf adventure game to run on the web? :) < 1195588192 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case, i'll raise you to a 7 < 1195588196 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is evil < 1195588196 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1195588200 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I probably can. < 1195588218 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Instead of compiling to input/output statements, use some kind of textbox with awt < 1195588220 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hatching norns to be slaughtered in this manner < 1195588232 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm working on the messaging thing < 1195588238 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But it'll be slooow. As I'm not planning on optimizations for now. < 1195588250 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo : Once your system is complete, send invitations. < 1195588258 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just like the JVM, really. I don't care for the Java language in any way, but I like Swing and the VM < 1195588259 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :invitations? < 1195588267 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For other norns to come! < 1195588277 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The warp doesn't quite work like that < 1195588287 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you mean messaging random people.. < 1195588300 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, random people for random killings. < 1195588376 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1195588384 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a kind-of-hard-to-compiler (at least, harder than BF) language? < 1195588391 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, are you getting DS? < 1195588394 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I could try compiling Befunge->JVM :D < 1195588468 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not right now. < 1195588475 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tomorrow mehby. < 1195588509 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Actually, how DO the befunge compilers do it? < 1195588521 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a while I know that it was thought to be impossible. < 1195588961 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, never looked at them < 1195588977 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please rate the evilness of this idea from 1 to 10: < 1195589002 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combine all esoteric languages into one and write an interpreter in BASIC and don't release the source code and make it extremely slow. < 1195589012 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume they sort of compile the initial state, with some way to check if a cell has changed < 1195589034 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since most befunge programs probably are not that self-modifying < 1195589037 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1195589039 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..... < 1195589041 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :''' < 1195589045 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :' < 1195589051 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray! asiekierka is being an annoying idiot again! < 1195589055 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1195589058 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just asked < 1195589063 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1195589064 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then spammed the channel < 1195589064 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pleased < 1195589077 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also asked a stupid question with no use in having an answer < 1195589078 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then made some dots because i'm waiting for answer < 1195589085 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, how do you plan on combining all esoteric languages? < 1195589093 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you plan on FINDING them, even? < 1195589098 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... esolangs wiki < 1195589109 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As though everything's on that wiki.. < 1195589109 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's like a few hundred of them. < 1195589111 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? I'll just put every crappier function of all languages < 1195589113 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ignore him. he's an idiot. < 1195589114 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rate evilness <<< amount of work < 1195589120 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1195589121 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10? < 1195589122 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or -1? < 1195589131 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amount of work: 10 < 1195589135 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: You made tons of dots TWO MINUTES after you asked it! WE DO NOT SIT HERE WAITING FOR YOU TO ASK A QUESTION SO WE CAN IMMEDIATELY ANSWER IT. < 1195589141 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semantic meaningless: 100 < 1195589174 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would it mean to combine all esolangs? < 1195589185 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: asiekierka doesn't know himself, he's just trying to get attention... < 1195589191 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put every crappiest function from ALL languages < 1195589196 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make it work good. < 1195589216 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1195589216 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1195589217 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am < 1195589217 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1195589219 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: the most interesting esoteric languages are not defined solely by their functions, but by how they fit together < 1195589219 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kidding < 1195589253 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION works on his norn torturing and murdering machine < 1195589261 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1195589262 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^more attention getting by me.. < 1195589262 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1195589262 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :m < 1195589263 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just < 1195589263 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why it's so hard to make an esoteric language? < 1195589265 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typig < 1195589266 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on < 1195589267 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple < 1195589267 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lines < 1195589268 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to < 1195589269 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise, it would be easy to make a language full of useless function! < 1195589270 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :annoy < 1195589272 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people < 1195589274 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think Sgeo is the evil one here. < 1195589274 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like asiekierka! < 1195589284 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1195589285 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1195589286 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like for instance, a function which makes the super mario theme on the PC speaker. < 1195589291 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any tutorial < 1195589296 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on making... esoteric... lang..uages? < 1195589307 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1195589308 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be < 1195589312 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: STEP 1. Learn to actually use languages and how they work. STEP 2. You don't need this step! < 1195589323 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Esoteric language" is a vague term. < 1195589325 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STEP 3. Step 2 is false. < 1195589336 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, you just come up with an idea for a programing language that no sane person would want to use.. < 1195589337 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STEP 4 : There is no step 5. < 1195589350 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 5: Step 4 is true. < 1195589354 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 6: There is Step 5. < 1195589358 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION promises to write a book on esoteric languages some day in case no one does it first < 1195589362 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PIME TARADOX < 1195589377 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: you did that crap with the rules last time you spammed up this place < 1195589397 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... xD < 1195589401 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: there was a collective effort to make an esoteric language some months ago by everyone submitting different parts, the resulting mess was so horrible we didn't even _try_ to fit it together < 1195589406 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not funny, it's really annoying < 1195589410 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, we gave up? < 1195589414 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1195589434 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it _may_ be we just lost interest as usual :D < 1195589450 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\_/"\_/ < 1195589469 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it still was a horrible mess that no one knew how to fit together < 1195589473 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\_/"\_/ I CAN MAKE USELESS SYMBOLS TOO < 1195589475 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\_/"\_/\_/"\_/\_/"\_/\_/"\_/\_/"\_/\_/"\_/\_/"\_/ < 1195589477 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is trying to make an esolang. < 1195589485 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is the main interest loser he.. I'm bored. I think I'll do something completely different now. < 1195589487 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But with what I know of regular languages, it's hard < 1195589498 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fitting _all_ esolangs together would obviously be worse. < 1195589499 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: don't be so mean on asiekierka :\ < 1195589507 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's all get along! < 1195589512 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: he was deeply annoying and stupid last time he's in here < 1195589516 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far he does not seem to be improving < 1195589525 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, at least no one submitted something that implies it would be a 2D language < 1195589525 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :T_T < 1195589563 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks he'll be evil and implement the BF tape as local variables in java < 1195589570 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: i recommend you remind yourself of immibis before talking about annoying ;) < 1195589578 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis? < 1195589585 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1195589586 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BYE < 1195589586 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1195589592 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: immibis, i've seen the name in here but do not recall them ever talking < 1195589593 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if he's here... < 1195589598 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye asiekierka, and you only need to say it once < 1195589599 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: saying it once works too < 1195589601 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1195589605 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with only one casing... < 1195589630 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: whut :\ he used to spam this channel 24/7 < 1195589635 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to continue working on the autospammer < 1195589637 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: show example < 1195589638 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1195589642 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO not an autospammer < 1195589643 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1195589648 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :immibis < 1195589650 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: we already have one it's called asiekierka < 1195589650 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hand-activated spammer? < 1195589651 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1195589653 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL TESTING MY BOT A BIT < 1195589657 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*THIS IS TEST** < 1195589657 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1195589658 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*THIS IS TEST** < 1195589658 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*THIS IS TEST** < 1195589659 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*THIS IS TEST** < 1195589664 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis made toBoGe < 1195589667 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't he? < 1195589669 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Ooklopol < 1195589669 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, is it working? < 1195589671 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, no, a misstatement on my part < 1195589677 0 :Ooklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1195589682 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is in the topic, so i guess he isn't hated here or anything < 1195589688 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I test my bots in here a lot too < 1195589689 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1195589700 0 :Ooklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopol < 1195589722 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing wrong with immibis, but he's definately the floodiest guy ever. < 1195589834 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can be floody if I.. no I can't.. < 1195589957 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Das vill be repression due to die trauma at die anal stage < 1195589959 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the great thing about immibis was he was able to spam multiple channels semi-manually (no 100% bot loops) while not seeming to realize it at all < 1195589977 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :semi-manually? < 1195589984 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i explained in the parens < 1195590005 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but what did he say that caused it? < 1195590014 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ightly tired < 1195590030 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe rest self sgeo < 1195590035 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes Slereah  < 1195590096 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yah? < 1195590164 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: caused it? ehh < 1195590176 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : maybe rest self sgeo < 1195590182 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look familiar? < 1195590199 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why, he had floditis immaturitis, of course < 1195590205 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. There's the very same like 5 lines above. < 1195590215 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I have kind of a déjà vu feeling. < 1195590227 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant, wrt Creatures3 < 1195590267 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrt? < 1195590277 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrt = with relation to < 1195590318 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, my last game was at least one year ago. < 1195590326 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I do recall them having bad grammar. < 1195590690 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, the ` function in unlambda is an annoying character. < 1195590751 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1195590752 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's great < 1195590814 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the interpreter I have crashes if I type something wrong, and he only accepts `+space to display `. < 1195590825 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for some reason, I can't copypasta. < 1195590917 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannot paste into hugs running programs, yeah < 1195590923 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's annoyed me too < 1195590941 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd think a program called hug would be more user friendly. < 1195590945 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by crashing? < 1195590971 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's a program error, and I have to restart everything. < 1195590975 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unknown operator" < 1195591015 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, sounds like mine < 1195591026 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw it can take file input < 1195591069 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is an interpreter of the Unlambda language, written in - the pure, lazy, functional language Haskell. - - Copyright (C) 2001 by Ørjan Johansen " < 1195591078 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it is! < 1195591115 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does the file input works? < 1195591123 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try :main filename < 1195591190 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Filename, a filepath? < 1195591199 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1195591216 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks on Esolang < 1195591228 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you're the one writing the unlambda in INTERCAL too? < 1195591234 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1195591238 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And making me scream of the madness of you people! < 1195591244 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1195591264 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functional esolangs seem like the orphans of the esolangs. < 1195591268 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how he could make his BF->JVM compiler more evil < 1195591286 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird` : Make a function that plays a sinister tune. < 1195591291 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1195591292 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no :P < 1195591326 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is evil. < 1195591352 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is going to move a norn into space < 1195591357 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without air, presumably < 1195591372 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes, the old decompression chamber near the engine. < 1195591379 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Shpof* < 1195591468 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite like that < 1195591473 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She's at the title screen now < 1195591482 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A note about evaluation order: when Unlambda is evaluating an expression `FG, it evaluates F first, and then G" < 1195591485 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just realised that he doesn't know how to execute some bytecode in java < 1195591487 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just create it. < 1195591489 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that why my SII didn't worked? < 1195591496 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or `i.a for that matter. < 1195591531 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well partly < 1195591555 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although in the `i.a case it's more that printing only happens when .a is applied _to_ something < 1195591561 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/screenshots/title_screen_norn.png < 1195591576 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1195591583 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :java should have a java.lang.runByteCode or something :P < 1195591585 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :application happens after _both_ parts have been evaluated, btw < 1195591587 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any particular reason why? < 1195591609 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a creepy norn. < 1195591615 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strictness is easy to implement... < 1195591646 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did `targ norn mvsf 0 0` < 1195591655 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now Lazy K, is that just lazy SKI? i'm too lazy to wiki right now < 1195591670 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lazy K is just SKI, yes. < 1195591672 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, which norn's creepy? The real norn, or the purple one that's part of the title screen? < 1195591674 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lazy K is not! < 1195591677 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lazy K has many syntaxes < 1195591678 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's crazy < 1195591683 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(damn, forgot to make a pun) < 1195591683 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it can also work with *i < 1195591690 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :abd 01 from Jot. < 1195591698 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And unlambda notation < 1195591716 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1195591716 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1195591719 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1195591729 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i *should* check it out then,. < 1195591732 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.,.,.,.,;:;:; < 1195591764 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the unlambda functions except d (delay) only do things when applied to something < 1195591787 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, that's not quite right < 1195591792 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even d < 1195591821 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/screenshots/title_screen_w_map.png < 1195591825 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :primitive functions, i should say < 1195591845 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :expressions may of course apply their parts during evaluation < 1195592549 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the most complex esolang is. < 1195592577 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magenta perhaps? < 1195592629 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define "complex". < 1195593719 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well for a different "complex", i guess quantum brainfuck could also qualify :) < 1195593944 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1195594225 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1195594901 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"to recover corrupted irc logs" < 1195594975 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@haje8.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1195595519 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is not a message < 1195595729 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is not an incredible predictable answer < 1195595734 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ly < 1195596048 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host135-82-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1195596259 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1195596311 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-514d22af.l1.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1195596395 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMPORTANT STATEMENT < 1195596554 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OBSCURE COUNTEREXAMPLE < 1195596614 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR < 1195596637 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PARTIAL FIX < 1195596964 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WORKSFORME < 1195596986 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT SAFE FOR WORK < 1195597009 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WONTFIX < 1195597038 0 :SEO_DUDE!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195597163 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I'm quitting... Bye all" < 1195597686 0 :SEO_DUDE!i=Deee@gateway/tor/x-69762515504249e7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195597967 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :random, esoteric and computer-related (although not programming-language-related) idea: is there a language-sensitive diff? you could get patches that don't die horribly with two different formattings (code-style that is) of the same source, etc. < 1195598012 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff? < 1195598086 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it rings a bell < 1195598227 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some google hits < 1195598326 0 :Overand!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195598326 0 :Eulogy!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195598439 0 :Overand!i=overand@dissociative.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1195598439 0 :Eulogy!n=daeken@208.74.170.245 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195598635 0 :Eulogy_!n=daeken@208.74.170.245 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195598653 0 :Eulogy!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1195598691 0 :Overand_!i=overand@dissociative.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1195598694 0 :Overand!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Broken pipe < 1195598706 0 :Overand_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Overand < 1195598828 0 :Sgeo_!n=Anonymou@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599013 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 = 5 < 1195599018 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you know, diff(1) < 1195599565 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599565 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599565 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599565 0 :Overand!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599565 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599566 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599566 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599566 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599566 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599566 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599566 0 :zuzu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599566 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599566 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599566 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599566 0 :helios24_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599566 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599568 0 :Jontte!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599569 0 :Eulogy_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599569 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599569 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599569 0 :SEO_DUDE!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599569 0 :johnk_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599570 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599570 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599672 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :Sgeo_!n=Anonymou@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :Overand!i=overand@dissociative.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :Eulogy_!n=daeken@208.74.170.245 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :SEO_DUDE!i=Deee@gateway/tor/x-69762515504249e7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip24-255-58-134.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :dbc!n=daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :Slereah!n=Slereah@ANantes-252-1-24-58.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :helios24_!i=helios@tomakin.hellzilla.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :SimonRC!n=sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :johnk_!n=johnk@halcyon.southwestern.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :fizzie!n=fis@2001:14b8:113:2:21b:11ff:fe52:dc03 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :Jontte!n=joonas@88.195.10.216 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@wilug/madlug/sekhmet JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@75-166-190-182.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :oklopol!n=ville@194.251.103.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.125.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-76-27-232-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :zuzu!i=zuzu@melanarchy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599672 0 :mtve!i=mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599684 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@haje8.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599684 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1195599690 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :splitty weather today < 1195599708 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh i think it's supposed to snow today < 1195599840 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :kubrick.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1195599843 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the snow here has rained away again, for now < 1195599977 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-120.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1195600029 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hates it when irssi misses that a bunch of rejoins are from netsplits < 1195600348 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hms? < 1195600853 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-514d22af.l1.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1195600911 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAIT. WHAT DID I MISS. THIS IS IMPORTANT. < 1195600975 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* oerjan hates it when irssi misses that a bunch of rejoins are from netsplits < 1195600980 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_> oerjan, hms? < 1195601006 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a bit more < 1195601017 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(define a bit) < 1195601027 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(set! bit (or 0 1)) < 1195601033 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 lines < 1195601052 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about the weather, on net and off < 1195601090 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1195601103 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: irssi tries to summarize netsplits and netjoins, but sometimes it fails entirely and dumps a page of noise < 1195601154 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a problem on this channel, but annoying on #haskell which has ~400 users < 1195601249 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once there was a netsplit in #ubuntu and about 400 people disappeared < 1195601292 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1195601292 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, there should be some kind of standard (probably not official :P) defining an api for graphics interfaces < 1195601297 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the api, not the actual display of them < 1195601312 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so e.g. someone could write one that wraps around a toolkit, or various toolkits < 1195601314 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even X-specific < 1195601320 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a cloud dream I know :-) < 1195601367 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if it's called html DOM < 1195602012 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hah < 1195602021 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :html is hardly ideal for writing a desktop app < 1195602031 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter what the "2.0" proponents would like to have you believe < 1195602042 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on another note, i am going to generate a brainfuck "hello world" using natural selection. < 1195602045 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? i have no idea. < 1195602239 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hms < 1195602278 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hms what < 1195602452 0 :KrimZon!n=blah@81-179-77-141.dsl.pipex.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1195602471 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf >[+.->->]+>[.>[+]>][>.+>]-->>>->>>>+>.++>>>+> < 1195602481 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my program started off with that < 1195602482 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1195602484 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps < 1195602487 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 ehird`: ps < 1195602490 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1195602494 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must output something < 1195602499 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess its a non-printable character < 1195602500 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not too bad. < 1195603143 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[>>.>>>]>>-..>.-[].>-[-]>[[>>+[+>>[].++[.>->.[.>..>>[>[-+.[.>>]-[.].+[+-+[..>.[]->[-.-.].[]->.].>+]>]]>++]]+>[+.>>+++>--+-+>]>>+[[[].>].->-[-.>+-]>>>]>>>>][>][-]>-+>..+->>>[]+>>].]>>>[]+.>>>->->+.->[+.[.[>.+]+->-.]>>]->[+>->-[>[++]>..>.+[>.+.+.][[-->>-.]][>+[>.-]>>.>>-]][>+[+>.-+>+[+[>[[->[.>-]]]]]]]] < 1195603149 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im pretty sure that doesn't print hello world < 1195603149 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P