< 1194307854 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1194309059 0 :Tritonio!n=Tritonio@150.140.227.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1194309347 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.125.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1194309564 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1194309618 0 :tokigun!n=tokigun@haje8.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1194309772 0 :Guilt!n=Karthik@allegro/user/Guilt JOIN :#esoteric < 1194309787 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi. i uploaded a newer compiler here: http://guilt.bafsoft.net/downloads/wip/Brainfuck/ < 1194309819 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it converts to x86 asm. right now does jump optimizations.. will eventually work out balanced loop optimization once i have an intermediete representation < 1194309841 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1194309850 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would like feedback and bug reports, if any. < 1194309982 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Lo. < 1194310005 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet-n-lo < 1194310073 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lo! :) < 1194310153 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ello. < 1194310206 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hello" < 1194310212 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"'ello" < 1194310214 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"'lo" < 1194310223 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"'o" (OK, maybe not) < 1194310237 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe :) < 1194310308 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"'" < 1194310354 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses "'" as a greeting from now on. < 1194310399 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O'bsmntbombdood -> Oh, hello bsmntbombdood! < 1194310403 0 :Slereah!n=Slereah@ANantes-252-1-102-188.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1194310420 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't know he was irish... < 1194310499 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like John Van Von O'McFitzsonovichstein < 1194310707 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a first name that means "my son"? :P < 1194310737 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1194310738 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mison < 1194310749 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stabs bsmntbombdood in the facehole. < 1194310763 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't make fun of my facial deformity :( < 1194310897 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're pretty good at photoshopping it away, then < 1194310898 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not making fun of it ... just stabbing it. < 1194310925 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any easy to understand books on automata? < 1194310926 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1194310937 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=poiuyqwe@bas2-toronto47-1242399137.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1194310949 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without too much math in it? like a quintuplet of sorts? :) < 1194310978 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it's like asking for food without calories.. but a low-cal diet would be great! :) < 1194310989 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: stabbing exacerbates my azerbaijan < 1194311069 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mijo" means "my son"! It's just not a name. < 1194311075 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know, at least. < 1194311080 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be a name < 1194311084 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1194311104 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guilt: automata, you say? Like cellular automata and Turing machines and Minsky machines and Langton's ant? < 1194311116 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. that stuff. < 1194311141 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But math IS that stuff! :-) < 1194311168 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh :| is there a good math tutorial at least? :) < 1194311182 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lost interest in math after 1st year of univ. < 1194311183 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"is there a good math tutorial" :P < 1194311187 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's been years since < 1194311197 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. i fear math now. totally. < 1194311200 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, there are lots of things that can follow "math is". < 1194311220 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, what are you after? A list of automata? < 1194311222 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if MCC over at GoodMath did automata < 1194311256 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :understanding that stuff. < 1194311276 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I suspect he has. < 1194311279 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any certain automaton you don't understand? < 1194311318 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guilt: What a shame. < 1194311323 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: turing machines, for starters. < 1194311334 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is in high school, and loves math. < 1194311335 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, a shame :( < 1194311337 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, calculus. < 1194311341 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am _sure_ MCC did turing machines < 1194311347 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, i loved calculus in school < 1194311374 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they taught something on differential equations and those generating long polynomials < 1194311387 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guilt: maybe an animation of a Turing machine would help? < 1194311388 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and holes and stuff in complex numbers, and all that high school math went deep into the drain < 1194311393 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: sure. < 1194311430 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I just have to find one, I guess. < 1194311435 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually, i hope to learn enough math to follow TAOCP. a lifetime goal. lol < 1194311437 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't been there in a while, but there were always people saying things like "i tried to learn this before, but i never understood it before you explained it" < 1194311451 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1194311454 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. understanding is the key to these things. < 1194311469 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holes in functions & complex numbers are difficult? < 1194311488 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so much easier just to be a genius, eh pikhq? < 1194311492 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a whole lot of things behind that now which i don't remember. < 1194311507 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Of course it is. < 1194311508 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, being a genius is nice. You should try it sometime. :-P < 1194311518 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. and if you're a genius, that's great. i admit i'm not one. but i intend to eventually become not so dumb. < 1194311519 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1194311525 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as a genius, I'm well aware of that. :p) < 1194311531 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, to go kill myself over my upcoming crypto assignment argh Gregor hate argh argh < 1194311539 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/assignment/midterm/ < 1194311554 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think of crypto as a blackbox. something goes in and something else comes out. :) that has it's advantages < 1194311565 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could figure out the math somewhat in RSA and DH though. < 1194311567 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Yes it does. I used to live in that happy universe *sobs* < 1194311573 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe :) < 1194311584 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should this channel be #math? :) < 1194311592 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, #math should. < 1194311603 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#math has people like TRWBW. Not that that's a bad thing? < 1194311615 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's trwbw? < 1194311629 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : uman: you asked a question, i gave you valid information, either thank me or just shut up. anyways, go with god < 1194311679 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I should make a Turing machine animation. < 1194311688 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRWBW is my new hero :P < 1194311689 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not hard to make a bad one! :-P < 1194311702 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graphviz is your friend! < 1194311719 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION <3 graphviz < 1194311727 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of those programs that is way more helpful than it ought to be :P < 1194311730 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2007/02/basics_the_turing_machine_with_1.php#more < 1194311742 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that looks useful. < 1194311954 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note in my browser at least that has a formatting error so the actual article is below all the menus) < 1194312055 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one more question: why haskell? :) < 1194312064 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's oerjan. < 1194312071 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is learning it fundamental to researching stuff like this? < 1194312071 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wouldn't *be* Oerjan without Haskell. :p < 1194312078 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh. < 1194312090 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. MCC did some Haskell there? < 1194312107 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1194312145 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect Haskell is for the more mathematically inclined. :p < 1194312157 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he also started a haskell tutorial < 1194312158 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1194312203 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that MCC used haskell is probably not my fault though < 1194312220 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we discovered it independently, afaik < 1194312223 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still blame you. < 1194312231 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. . . Do you *know* MCC? < 1194312243 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but i followed the blog for a while < 1194312246 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1194312277 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O wierd. < 1194312278 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the probably was an understatement < 1194312291 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i realize what a mathematical world this is. < 1194312317 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i started reading it because of his weekly esolang, not is haskell < 1194312327 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*his < 1194312347 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact someone here pointed me to it < 1194312357 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is haskell an esolang? < 1194312365 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks decent to me. like lisp or somethin < 1194312371 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually not considered as such :) < 1194312392 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is quite different from most programming languages < 1194312430 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1194312468 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh you know what would be awesome < 1194312482 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a forum like slashdot, except all posting done by mail < 1194312493 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cough* < 1194312495 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usenet. < 1194312520 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, postal mail < 1194312538 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1194312549 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usenet over post. < 1194312577 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either no one would participate, or only people who really had something decent to say would participate < 1194312602 0 :ihope_!n=ns@tapthru/resident/ihope JOIN :#esoteric < 1194312697 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh. zip in python looks like borrowed from haskell < 1194312698 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1194312709 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid languages.. all similiar looking < 1194312714 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comprehensions too < 1194312727 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm O_O < 1194312738 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to get mad one day.. looking at x numbers of languages < 1194312739 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1194312767 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although both zip and comprehensions are probably older than both < 1194312776 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1194312783 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, comprehensions really come from math < 1194312791 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg. haskell has a posix api with networking? < 1194312797 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As do functions. Your point? < 1194312800 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope nobody's doing SOA with it. < 1194312816 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure. the number of libraries have really started to take off lately < 1194312860 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god brainfuck doesn't say something about tcp or file streams < 1194312870 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) although it could act as a http client with nc. heh < 1194312875 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would if we worked on PSOX. < 1194312884 0 :k1w2u3!n=k1w2u3@unaffiliated/K1W2U3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1194312887 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a PSOX? < 1194312906 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's happs, for building web services with haskell < 1194312921 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSOX is a suggested API via I/O to allow esoteric languages access to things like files, TCP streams, etc. < 1194312966 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1194312973 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lool < 1194312974 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1194313011 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, we are insane; thank you for noticing) < 1194313085 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to find that quote again < 1194313092 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can PSOX work with a normal brainfuck interp? < 1194313100 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as of now, any existing implementations? < 1194313139 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/esoteric/psox-new-cat.b ? < 1194313149 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be an *example* of PSOX. < 1194313158 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo has no implementation finished. < 1194313161 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We're all mad here. I am mad. You're mad." "How do you know that I am mad?" asked Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." < 1194313163 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, indeed, a finished spec. < 1194313177 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. through the looking glass? < 1194313180 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the first one? < 1194313222 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think alice in wonderland, but not sure < 1194313383 0 :Guilt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1194313732 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1194314043 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2007/11/musical_goofiness_with_a_mathy.php < 1194315342 0 :k1w2u3!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1194315975 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1194315977 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That - is - AWESOME < 1194316421 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1194317339 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooo who wants to start a mail-in internet forum? < 1194317680 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like slashdot, with news articles to start discussion (less time-sensitive and longer lived than slashdot's though), with a postal adress to send comments to, where someone does very light moderation (removing spam and the "AI()(#J KDKSD"s), scans, threadifies, and posts the mail < 1194317758 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me of a very old-fangled concept which i'm sure you young whipper-snappers haven't heard about, called a magazine. < 1194317786 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1194317794 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :magazines don't post enough mails for decent discussion, and monthly is waaay too long < 1194317815 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and expensive to actually print a magazine < 1194317886 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be interested in another ancient concept called a newspaper, then < 1194317911 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same space and expense considerations < 1194317914 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but touche :P < 1194322246 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1194322566 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@adsl-71-150-253-223.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1194322631 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1194322909 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1194323496 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@adsl-71-150-253-223.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1194323859 0 :zuzu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1194323952 0 :Slereah-!n=Slereah@ANantes-252-1-102-188.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1194324022 0 :zuzu!i=zuzu@melanarchy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1194324107 0 :zuzu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1194324699 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1194324864 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.125.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1194324870 0 :zuzu!i=zuzu@melanarchy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1194324942 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@wilug/madlug/sekhmet JOIN :#esoteric < 1194324946 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Killed by ballard.freenode.net (Nick collision) < 1194324946 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1194324946 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@adsl-71-150-253-223.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1194325903 0 :Slereah_!n=Slereah@ANantes-252-1-102-188.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1194326317 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1194326692 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1194327076 0 :Slereah!n=Slereah@ANantes-252-1-102-188.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1194327099 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1194327218 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1194329146 0 :immibis!n=immibis@125-236-168-123.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1194329230 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1194332508 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/ < 1194334933 0 :oklopol!i=oko@194.251.101.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1194334970 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1194334974 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mouse is broken. < 1194334988 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :last night... was playing with my magnets as usual... dropped one on the computer, perhaps a sensitive area or something, screen went black < 1194335002 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tried plugging it in < 1194335017 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the weird thing is, i could just recover that from a button on my comp that switches screen on/off < 1194335029 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the mouse ain't working < 1194335032 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1194335046 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it plugged in < 1194335057 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i *could* try taking the battery off and letting it be fully dead for a while < 1194335071 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea if that's what you meant < 1194335094 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a laptop? < 1194335098 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1194335118 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a button above the touchpad < 1194335119 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's the touchpad that's not working < 1194335126 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a light near it? < 1194335126 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should've cleared that up < 1194335128 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is the light on? < 1194335129 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha no < 1194335133 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1194335134 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then push the button < 1194335139 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, there isn't one < 1194335145 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1194335154 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a 2.5-year-old laptop, even i'm not that stupid ;) < 1194335178 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1194335193 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, NoNameScript < 1194335202 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notices that oklopol replied to a /notice by writing in a channel < 1194335223 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, conclusion: i see notices on the channel i'm currently in < 1194335226 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh; the RFC frowns on that! < 1194335234 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does? < 1194335236 0 :SEO_DUDE!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1194335251 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The difference between NOTICE and PRIVMSG is that automatic replies must never be sent in response to a NOTICE message." < 1194335269 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/chapter4.html#c4_4_2 and so on. < 1194335270 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i think automatic is an important word there < 1194335280 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that looked pretty automatic to me! < 1194335324 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ban!!! < 1194335324 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:46] --> oklopol - NoNameScript? < 1194335329 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the NOTICE < 1194335337 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after i version'ed him < 1194335347 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and he automatically replied to it without thinking about it (much). < 1194335360 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1194335371 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg lecture in 12 minutes 6 km away -> < 1194335374 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might get stuck into a loop that way! You'd write replies and replies until your fingers fell off! < 1194335516 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/notice immibis Oh Hi < 1194335657 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=saru@122-57-230-205.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1194335673 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/notice immibis Oh Hi < 1194335827 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis said Oh Hi. Take that, RFC 1459! < 1194335859 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone notice me (:P) with the word Hi somewhere in the text < 1194335864 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis said Hi. Take that, RFC 1459! < 1194335868 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs to be a capital H < 1194335949 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament said Thou Art Hideous, Wretch!. Take that, RFC 1459! < 1194335999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1194336000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1194336096 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1194336250 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually RFC 2812 makes the statement even stronger, with ALL CAPS: "The difference between NOTICE and PRIVMSG is that automatic replies MUST NEVER be sent in response to a NOTICE message." < 1194336283 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fixed < 1194336287 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis said Hi. Take that, RFC's 1459 and 2812! < 1194336325 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very good. < 1194336442 0 :SEO_DUDE!i=Deee@gateway/tor/x-8527ca4dcc7937c0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1194336555 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Hi Im a qit msg virus. Pls rplce ur old qit msg wit tis 1 & hlp me tk ovr th wrld of IRC. Life without danger is a waste of o < 1194336898 0 :SEO_DUDE!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1194338251 0 :SEO_DUDE!i=Deee@gateway/tor/x-7a9eb226379fd6cd JOIN :#esoteric < 1194338339 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Every time you screw up AWOS, GreaseMonkey kills a kitten." < 1194339251 0 :Slereah_!n=Slereah@ANantes-252-1-62-119.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1194340100 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1194345725 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1194346976 0 :Tritonio!n=Tritonio@150.140.227.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1194349872 0 :Sgeo!n=Anonymou@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1194350162 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes people to #psox < 1194350169 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SVN repository! < 1194350565 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1194351737 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-544158a3.l5.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1194351945 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1194352986 0 :SEO_DUDE!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1194353520 0 :Sgeo_!n=Anonymou@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1194354274 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1194355239 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://trac2.assembla.com/psox/browser/trunk/ex/example_domain.py < 1194355866 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1194355905 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-544158a3.l5.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1194355962 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-048-141.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1194355975 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i actually managed to design a whole new esoteric language concept today! < 1194356004 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, like 1% change of that happening < 1194356004 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool oklopol < 1194356011 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can always hope. < 1194356032 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's based on constantly improving guesses < 1194356043 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1194356046 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :functions always return instantly, but keep on trying to produce a better output < 1194356052 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like a neural net < 1194356053 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1194356061 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll implement it show me a spec :P < 1194356076 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll try myself first :D < 1194356082 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :butbubutbubtubutbut < 1194356084 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to do it :( < 1194356087 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1194356093 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll do it in python! :9 < 1194356112 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the semantics i have now, it's unbelievable complicated; and it's not unambiguous yet. < 1194356128 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason i have to do everything in an original way when designing a language < 1194356166 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't wanna do it in python... too easy :< < 1194356175 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll write an interp in C < 1194356180 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that hardcore enough for you? < 1194356187 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1194356190 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be all in main(), be uncommented, and use at least one hex digit < 1194356202 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like most C esolang interpreters < 1194356206 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will that satisfy you? < 1194356219 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as i said, i'll first finish the language, then try making it myself, then you can do it. :D < 1194356248 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds nice, but also remember to avoid recursion < 1194356258 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and do some inline asm < 1194356260 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't I recurse into main? < 1194356264 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's non-standard and kooky! :D < 1194356280 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes, but you shouldn't be dependent on that, just do it for the heck of it < 1194356288 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1194356297 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i do it for my parsing < 1194356303 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :recurse a few times, then while-loop everything < 1194356328 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, i'm really not gonna make you a spec, half the fun in designing languages is implementing them :D < 1194356349 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can implement it but give me a spec so i can too < 1194356349 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1194356353 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, implement yours in oklotalk! < 1194356462 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, i would need to make oklotalk first ;) < 1194356496 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, one of my greatest problems is i want to use a non garbage collected language, but i don't feel like making good containers in C < 1194356509 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D and disable gc? < 1194356511 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't know many other non gc languages < 1194356518 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D is pretty easy to learn < 1194356518 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that has actually crossed my mind < 1194356520 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively < 1194356525 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :disable python's gc like so: < 1194356528 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i haven't installed D yet, soooo much work xD < 1194356534 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever you create an object, push it to a global list < 1194356538 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's "malloc" < 1194356542 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you want to free something < 1194356546 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :delete it from the list < 1194356553 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :manual gc :D < 1194356590 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i'd just put ints in the list, it'd be a quite accurate translation < 1194357788 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1194357824 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1194357856 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-544158a3.l5.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1194358901 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1194358929 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-544158a3.l5.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1194358952 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1194359330 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-544158a3.l5.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1194359440 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host126-92-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1194359845 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1194359866 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-544158a3.l5.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1194359913 0 :k1w2u3!n=k1w2u3@unaffiliated/K1W2U3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1194361151 0 :k1w2u3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1194361447 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Sgeo < 1194361669 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION points out that there is now an active #psox channel < 1194366195 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1194366560 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1194366570 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-085-016-239-150.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1194366933 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-38-66.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1194370894 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.vjn.fi/pb/p264151235.txt <<< code sample ! < 1194370898 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta go -> < 1194371371 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1194371371 0 :helios24!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1194371372 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1194371372 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1194371373 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1194371404 0 :EgoBot!n=EgoBot@c-76-27-232-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1194371404 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=Rodger@wads-5-232-170.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1194371404 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-544158a3.l5.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1194371404 0 :helios24!i=helios@tomakin.niobe.hellzilla.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1194371404 0 :fizzie!n=fis@2001:14b8:113:2:21b:11ff:fe52:dc03 JOIN :#esoteric < 1194373298 0 :SEO_DUDE!i=Deee@gateway/tor/x-b11418975de21f43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1194373365 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1194373374 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slumps over from tiredness < 1194373561 0 :bsmntbom1dood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION punches Sgeo in the tired < 1194373748 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll hurt in the morning < 1194373882 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1194374865 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, #psox ? < 1194374890 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh stop plugging it Sgeo < 1194374890 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1194375742 0 :SEO_DUDE!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1194376162 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-105-203.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1194376534 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi sebbu < 1194376535 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sebbu2, < 1194377302 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1194378198 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1194378304 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host126-92-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1194385711 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1194385737 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-544158a3.l5.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1194386767 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1194388013 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1194388105 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 < 1194389473 0 :SEO_DUDE!i=Deee@gateway/tor/x-62f0e143663e5737 JOIN :#esoteric < 1194389737 0 :Nucleo!n=Connecti@mskresolve-a.mskcc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1194390078 0 :Nucleo!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Nucleo_ < 1194390084 0 :Nucleo_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Alleria_ < 1194390374 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1194392690 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+" < 1194393306 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Testing factorial program in brainfuck. < 1194393323 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dbc: cool < 1194393337 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :decimal output? < 1194393355 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1194393383 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf random.b | bf byte2dec.b | bf factorial.b | bf numwarp.b = oh wow < 1194393384 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1194393410 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keymaker beat me to it, in fact he made one quite a while ago. But I still didn't take it off my to-do list, and I was bored today. < 1194393424 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reversible Thue would be interesting. < 1194393425 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. No, this one doesn't take input. That would actually be easier, thinking about it. < 1194393453 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just guesses what number you want? :-) < 1194393454 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if not easier, at least maybe shorter. < 1194393459 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it computes all of them. < 1194393467 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can compute infinite numbers in finite time? < 1194393468 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impressive < 1194393475 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or more strictly, it computes any given one. < 1194393476 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1194393482 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in finite time. < 1194393484 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell taken to the logical extreme i guess < 1194393485 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1194393492 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION computes all of them < 1194393493 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done! < 1194393499 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: what's the last factorial? < 1194393505 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: what's the last integer? < 1194393524 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: the .. um .. factorial-root of the last value your program outputted < 1194393524 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1194393540 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Negation of "it computes all factorials" is "there is a factorial it doesn't compute", right? < 1194393546 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is wrong. < 1194393549 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it kind of ran faster and faster and then stopped suddenly. < 1194393562 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: Running on an infinity machine? < 1194393565 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each factorial took half as long to compute as the last one. < 1194393567 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be the clockspeed halfing. < 1194393591 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I remember. The last factorial is 0.