00:03:46 -!- sebbu2 has quit ("@+"). 00:15:32 -!- CakeProphet__ has joined. 00:17:44 -!- CakeProphet__ has quit (Client Quit). 00:17:59 -!- CakeProphet__ has joined. 00:18:40 -!- CakeProphet__ has changed nick to CakeProphet. 00:32:52 -!- CakeProphet_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 01:05:02 I fully intend, next year, to laugh at the undergrad CS students who don't know shit about coding. 01:05:13 Moreover, I plan to do it in Brainfuck. 01:07:09 Perhaps assisted with my friendly compiler. :) 01:09:53 -!- Sgeo has joined. 01:24:55 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 01:25:17 -!- CakeProphet__ has joined. 01:25:19 -!- CakeProphet__ has changed nick to CakeProphet. 01:41:33 -!- SEO_DUDE has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 01:46:36 pikhq: it's impolite to laugh at people just because they don't know something they're not even supposed to know. 01:47:27 lament: I refuse to be polite, then. 01:48:04 ok, i'll laugh at you because you don't know Russian, then. 01:48:16 really, how can anybody be that stupid? :) 01:48:56 It'd only be silly if I went in as a Russian major. 01:49:04 And then claimed to be a god at Russian. 01:49:18 (like the people I intend to laugh at claim to be a god at coding) 01:49:33 the CS program assumes no knowledge of programming 01:50:04 And I assume that the mathematics program assumes no knowledge of math? 01:50:04 much unlike the math program 01:50:17 lament: it should 01:50:23 bsmntbombdood: why? 01:51:02 Inevitably, the ones who will stick around in such a program *already know a bit about programming*. 01:51:08 pikhq: that's not true. 01:51:26 lots of people learn programming while in the CS program. 01:52:36 pikhq: be aware of the fact that virtually all introductory (read: required) CS courses specify a language for the completion of all assignments. 01:53:03 in a math program, you're expected to know the language of math, ie algebra 01:53:06 pikhq: in my university, there was an exam you could take to skip the first few courses. 01:53:10 so the same should be true in a cs program 01:53:18 bsmntbombdood: ...why? 01:53:30 pikhq: so people who already knew programming could take the exam, and others would take those courses. 01:53:33 Particularly when it is plausible for someone to know programming by age 8. . . 01:53:45 if you get into an AI course or something and still want to use PEBBLE, be my guest. However, CS 1001 or whatever-the-hell-it's-called introductory programming is going to use either C++ or Java, period. 01:54:01 RodgerTheGreat: C++ at the college I want to go to. 01:54:06 Fortuitously, I *know* C++. 01:54:18 Age 8? Pah. :-P 01:54:21 And I'd love to do one assignment in PEBBLE, for no good reason. :p 01:54:31 bsmntbombdood: note that the analogy is doubly broken because the CS program *also* expects you to know math, just like the math program. 01:54:33 RodgerTheGreat: that's stupid 01:54:47 java and c++ don't have anything to offer to CS 01:54:47 bsmntbombdood: in fact, both programs expect you to know what you're taught in HS. 01:54:56 Not that I know when I learned Pascal. That was a while ago. 01:55:01 bsmntbombdood: which involves a lot of math and no (mandatory) CS. 01:55:10 bsmntbombdood: 1) try being a fucking grader, 2) those intro courses are *largely* about teaching sane coding style, formatting and commenting practice 01:55:12 lament: if you can't learn anything on your own, you're stupid 01:55:26 RodgerTheGreat: ...then they aren't CS 01:55:32 bsmntbombdood: there's a difference between "can" and "should" 01:55:34 Imagine you going in as an English major, and enter not knowing English. . . 01:55:57 pikhq: with languages *other* than English, that's exactly how it works. 01:56:06 You could enter not knowing any Spanish, and then become a Spanish major. 01:56:14 lament: I assume this is a school somewhere where English is spoken natively. 01:56:18 right. 01:56:20 bsmntbombdood: why is it valuable to have CS majors without practical coding experience? Theory is far less useful if nobody knows how to apply it in a useful fashion. 01:57:04 anyway, faculties can't assume that you know anything beyond high school stuff. Otherwise, nobody would go to said faculties. 01:57:26 lament: Programming courses for a computer science program should honestly be considered remedial courses. . . 01:57:28 so all faculties assume english, and all faculties assume math, and none of them assume programming. 01:57:40 lament: i would 01:57:41 The subject "English" is a horrible spectrum ranging from literature to spelling. 01:57:51 pikhq: sure, just like basic spanish courses are "remedial" for a spanish major 01:57:57 The two are pretty much unrelated. 01:57:58 And try to get high schools to actually match that. 01:58:28 ihope: For a degree in English, literature is usually what is being referred to. ;) 01:58:30 pikhq: well, *given* the high schools, universities are pretty much doing the best they can. 01:59:20 Given the high schools, I'm surprised people can even wipe their ass after graduating from high school. 01:59:46 Is that supposed to be taught in schools at all? 01:59:47 there are a depressing number of people who choose a college major without doing anything in advance of showing up for the first class to prepare themselves 02:00:12 Asswiping 101 02:00:13 ihope: I dunno, I think they teach it in some of the elementary school special ed classes 02:00:26 * RodgerTheGreat is totally serious 02:01:24 i got taught to wipe my ass 02:01:44 by my parents, of course, not by a school 02:01:49 same 02:02:25 if parents are incapable of teaching their children to dress themselves, eat, and defecate properly, I don't think they deserve the title "parent" 02:02:29 so yeah, to summarize, the math program assumes as much math knowledge as the CS program assumes CS knowledge -- everything you learned in high school. 02:02:58 You'd think the people going to math are pretty smart. Yet the program doesn't even assume they know calculus. Because not everybody learns calculus in high schools. 02:03:14 lament: dependence on a broken system isn't smart 02:03:25 which says more about high-schools than universities, really 02:03:34 bsmntbombdood: you don't quite understand. 02:03:45 -!- gurami has joined. 02:03:50 bsmntbombdood: there's this thing called *the real world*, which is where both universities and high schools have to operate. 02:03:52 but you need to remember- there are two reasons you go to college: to learn, or to prove what you know 02:04:21 bsmntbombdood: In this "real world", the universities can't do anything about the high schools and have to do their best given the situation. 02:04:23 In my case, some of both. In some cases, more of the former 02:04:34 bsmntbombdood: which is what they do. 02:05:07 You can't raise the bar above HS requirements because then almost nobody would attend. 02:05:20 universities are for the advancement of academia, not for making money 02:05:47 in this case, universities are for teaching, and teaching is what they do. 02:05:55 The high schools need to be revamped signifigantly. . 02:05:56 forcing people to know stuff they didn't get taught in high school would keep the idiots out 02:06:19 Universities aren't out to make money? 02:06:21 bsmntbombdood: so where should they learn this stuff? By themselves? 02:06:28 lament: yes... 02:06:35 bsmntbombdood: so, if you can learn it all by yourself 02:06:39 why go to university at all? 02:06:45 ihope: In *name*, they're largely public institutions. 02:07:07 there's a fine balance to strike between punishing people for being lazy cockoffs in high-school and unfairly hurting the people that honestly did try yet went to crappy schools 02:07:45 lament: to interact with smart people 02:08:23 bsmntbombdood: that's not the stated goal of universities (in the context of getting an undergrad degree). Perhaps a society like MENSA would serve you better. 02:08:37 hahaha... mensa 02:08:57 lol 02:09:15 lament: wait... were you serious about the mensa thing? 02:09:21 and for accreditation 02:09:58 but accreditation really fucks shit up :( 02:10:28 Hmm, Mensa. I think my mom says it's mostly about "Look at me, I'm smart enough to be in Mensa!" 02:10:32 MENSA is remarkable, in that it seems to be more a society of people smart enough to join, but not smart enough to willingly *not* join. 02:10:45 RodgerTheGreat: he wants to interact with smart people, no? 02:11:39 well, he said smart people, but smart people isn't necessarily the same thing as pretentious assholes with high-IQs that are willing to pay membership dues to say so. 02:12:13 well, that's his problem :) 02:12:29 heh 02:12:51 RodgerTheGreat: Like I said: smart enough to join, not smart enough to *not* join. ;) 02:13:01 in all honesty, I think quite a few of us here could get into MENSA if we wanted and yet... none of us are currently... how unusual... 02:13:20 Indeed, I could. 02:13:26 pikhq: yeah, I was just making the point in a different way 02:13:33 pikhq: what's their cutoff? 02:13:36 "Here's an IQ test I took. . . 8 years ago." ;) 02:13:37 130. 02:13:48 RodgerTheGreat: 1 in 50 makes it in, iirc. 02:13:56 Tell me how to make a really great cappuccino please? 02:14:08 gurami: the key ingredient is great espresso 02:14:15 Assuming an IQ test with some other standard deviation, it is officially 2 standard deriviations. 02:14:17 lament: ah... dude, that would mean mensa "geniuses" are within one standard deviantion. WTF? 02:14:19 gurami: do you have a big, expensive espresso machine? 02:14:24 how is that "genius level"? 02:14:25 I do 02:14:27 gurami: 1 part really great esspresso, 1 part milk, 1 part microfoam? 02:14:52 gurami: the other key thing is knowing how to foam milk 02:14:58 hold on 02:15:09 That is difficult - I always end up with too little foam 02:15:21 gurami: http://www.coffeegeek.com/guides/frothingguide 02:15:26 excellent 02:15:39 reading something called the frothingguide will make this day complete 02:15:47 and in general, look at http://www.coffeegeek.com/guides 02:16:01 RodgerTheGreat: Presumably because 2 SDs is 0.5% of the population? 02:16:39 pikhq: oh, wait- crap- I did that wrong in my head 02:16:53 68, 95, 99 02:16:56 Still not all *that* impressive. 02:17:25 nothing against you, gurami, but is there any particular reason you decided this would be a good channel to ask about cappuccino? 02:17:41 Is nobody here capable of spelling "deviation"? :-P 02:17:44 * pikhq is at about the point where IQ tests are incapable of accurately discerning meaningful values. 02:17:51 Me too. 02:18:09 Meh, I figure a room full of esoteric programmers would be pretty knowledgeable about caffeine delivery methods :) 02:18:11 ihope: How the hell did I enter an "r" in my second usage of "deviation"? 02:18:27 gurami: Coffee, and lots of it. ;p 02:18:37 Mountain Dew is also damned good. 02:18:42 -!- ihope_ has joined. 02:18:44 if you like pee 02:19:13 -_-' 02:19:24 i wish i knew espresso :( 02:19:25 ihope: whoops, I cannot believe I made that typo. :S 02:19:39 I am normally capable of spelling "deviation" 02:20:13 "Your IQ is at least this high", they said... 02:20:17 :) I mean, i can understand an addiction to mountain dew. i just cant sympathize 02:20:46 heh 02:20:48 coffee is much preferable to pop 02:20:52 none of that sugar 02:21:11 Sometimes, I need something sugary. 02:21:32 I totally call all cola "Coke". Pop must be preceded by Snap and Crackle. 02:21:51 I call all operating systems "Windows". :p 02:22:10 Debian GNU/Windows. 02:22:14 gurami: mountain dew isn't cola 02:22:20 Wait, is that Cygwin? 02:23:07 Ok i call all soft drinks coke. 02:23:12 i think its a southern thing. 02:23:53 [http://popvssoda.com] 02:24:12 I'm a popist. 02:24:31 Except when I think the word "pop" sound silly, in which case... um... 02:24:53 (I seem to be becoming increasingly unable to put the "s" on the end of stuff.) 02:25:07 I do both "soda" and "pop". . . 02:25:43 (Why the singular/plural distinction, anyway? I don't like it.) 02:25:57 (Person can understand thing just fine without it, can't it?) 02:26:26 espresso machines/grinders are expensive 02:26:29 I generally use "soda" only for "fruit"-flavored drinks. 02:26:43 here's a question, is someone who believes in the Pope's mission a "Popist"? 02:27:01 Sure, why not? 02:27:16 Maybe I believe in both Pope and pop. 02:28:24 sorry i took the level of this conversation down a bunch 02:28:33 im kinda bored and delirious 02:28:41 pope pop! the new flavor sensation sweeping vatican city! "Holy christ on a stick it's good", says an anonymous dude. 02:29:49 The new brown pope pop: Poopy Pope Pop! 02:29:52 (sorry) 02:32:19 -!- gurami has left (?). 02:32:31 Easter-Flavored Pope Pop! 02:32:58 "Where is it? It can't have left the grave!" 02:32:58 :p 02:33:16 "It makes you feel like crawling out of hell and doing something with palm fronds!" 02:34:33 That'd be Good Friday Pope Pop, and that has cyanide. :p 02:38:17 -!- ihope has quit (Connection timed out). 02:43:40 -!- SEO_DUDE has joined. 03:31:40 -!- SEO_DUDE has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 04:00:33 -!- Herr_Rob has joined. 04:01:11 -!- Robdgreat has quit (Nick collision from services.). 04:01:15 -!- Herr_Rob has changed nick to Robdgreat. 04:22:49 -!- SEO_DUDE has joined. 04:28:18 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 05:05:13 GregorR: i made a fucking awesome hat 05:06:02 it's a tetrahedron 05:09:45 man, heavy shit in #Nonlogic 05:10:02 RodgerTheGreat, lies! 05:10:57 sometimes I wish we were a bit more like #Esoteric in the sense that we didn't have a big centralized set of servers providing all our stuff- #Esoteric's resources are distributed around to different people 05:11:15 we have a lot of friction going on because we have a community half and a company half. 05:11:22 RodgerTheGreat, where ios this? 05:11:53 just another channel, another IRC community 05:13:05 a little pearl of wisdom here: shit gets complicated when you let it. 05:14:26 so, what's up with you? 05:17:31 #esoteric doesn't provide shell servers... 05:17:40 that's true 05:35:38 -!- bsmntbom1dood has joined. 05:43:50 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit (Nick collision from services.). 05:43:55 -!- bsmntbom1dood has changed nick to bsmntbombdood. 05:52:19 -!- Sgeo has quit ("Ex-Chat"). 06:50:52 -!- jix has joined. 07:32:55 -!- immibis has joined. 07:42:54 !glass {M[mc<25>=(_a)A!(_o)O!/(c)c1(_a)s.?"12345 "(_o)o.?\]} 07:43:08 !glass {M[mc<25>=(_a)A!(_o)O!/(c)c<1>(_a)s.?"12345 "(_o)o.?\]} 07:43:12 !ps 07:43:14 3 immibis: glass 07:43:17 4 immibis: glass 07:43:18 5 immibis: ps 07:43:21 !kill 3 07:43:22 !kill 4 07:43:24 Process 4 killed. 07:43:26 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 123 07:43:28 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 123 07:45:31 !glass {M[mc<25>=(_a)A!(_o)O!/(c)cc*<1>(_a)s.?="12345 "(_o)o.?\]} 07:45:34 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 12345 07:46:57 !glass {M[mx<1>=(_o)O!(_i)I!/(x)(_i)l.?(_o)o.?\]} 07:47:06 !kill 3 07:47:08 Process 3 killed. 07:47:13 !daemon glasscat glass {M[mx<1>=(_o)O!(_i)I!/(x)(_i)l.?(_o)o.?\]} 07:47:18 !glasscat test 07:47:31 !glasscat hello? 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09:36:15 !raw join #toboge 09:39:25 -!- Guilt has joined. 09:40:05 "(RodgerTheGreat) in all honesty, I think quite a few of us here could get into MENSA if we wanted and yet... none of us are currently... how unusual..." how do you know? i almost went to the tests :P 09:46:07 i can't stand IQ tests, it's just about fast pattern matching 09:46:25 well, actually i can't stand them because of that for the simple reason that's what i'm particularly bad at ;) 09:47:25 uh, schools -> 09:51:06 -!- EgoBotsClone has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 09:51:21 -!- EgoBotsClone has joined. 09:51:43 !glass {M[m(_o)O!"Hello World!"(_o).?]} 09:51:57 come on.... 09:52:19 what? error while setting up environment for the application!!! 10:04:18 -!- SEO_DUDE has quit (Remote closed the connection). 10:10:16 !raw join #tobog 10:10:17 !raw join #toboge 10:10:21 !raw part #tobog 10:11:40 -!- immibis has quit ("Hi, I'm a quit message virus. 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Friends hel). 10:12:02 -!- EgoBotsClone has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 10:15:27 -!- Guilt has quit ("CGI:IRC at http://freenode.bafsoft.ath.cx:14464/ (EOF)"). 10:26:19 -!- Guilt has joined. 11:28:25 -!- Tritonio has joined. 13:15:28 -!- jix has joined. 13:30:50 -!- jix has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep"). 14:01:07 o 14:10:17 -!- SEO_DUDE has joined. 14:20:57 oklopol: well, I'm kinda on the other end of the spectrum there 14:22:08 I'm really, really good at the types of things on IQ tests (spatial thinking, pattern recognition, etc), and standardized tests in general, to the point that I have difficulty believing my results are anything but statistical anomalies 14:26:25 the main problem is that IQ tests tend to place a tremendous amount of weight on some fairly specialized types of skills 14:27:29 i guess i get good scores too, but i feel stupid doing them, since i just get the trivial ones in the short time you have... 14:28:03 i guess everyone just gets the trivial stuff.... 14:28:53 well, I'm familiar with testing and scoring procedure (another reason my scores should be taken with a grain of salt) and most modern tests weight the question 14:30:27 -!- Guilt has quit ("CGI:IRC at http://freenode.bafsoft.ath.cx:14464/ (EOF)"). 14:55:12 -!- jix has joined. 15:04:11 we should write an esoteric compression algorithm 15:05:14 output brainfuck that, when executed, outputs the input? 16:17:10 -!- sebbu has joined. 16:22:01 -!- bsmntbom1dood has joined. 16:33:19 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 17:04:39 -!- Tritonio has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 17:52:09 -!- jix has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)). 17:53:06 -!- jix has joined. 18:11:49 -!- oerjan has joined. 18:15:56 -!- Guilt has joined. 18:19:03 -!- ehird` has joined. 18:29:50 -!- Sgeo has joined. 18:38:07 my hat+goggles are TEH SHIT 18:38:25 pix 18:38:41 don't have any ;( 18:38:47 take! 18:38:47 i might take one when i get home 18:39:03 hat+goggles? bsmntbom1dood is designing mad scientist wear? 18:39:14 -!- bsmntbom1dood has changed nick to bsmntbombdood. 18:39:34 hmm, bf_txtgen may need some optimizing to actually compress... 18:39:41 of course 18:40:05 !bf_txtgen aaaaaaaaaaaa 18:40:35 oerjan: they're not mad scientist like 18:40:55 the hat is a tetrahedron made out of duck tape and cardboard 18:41:00 given that each character in a brainfuck program takes only 8 possible values, some sequences of which are redundant or impossible... 18:41:00 and the goggles too 18:41:15 tetrahedron sounds pretty mad to me :D 18:42:05 but proper madness of course requires something better than cardboard. tinfoil perhaps? 18:42:07 the goggles are sort of square-piramids with the tips and bases cut off 18:42:20 i thought about covering with tinfoil 18:42:35 oerjan: true, i'm not saying it doesn't compress anything 18:43:30 oklopol: basically you are immediately at at least a 3/8 handicap 18:44:00 however given that i've heard english text only has 1 bit per character information, there is still some wiggling room 18:44:08 well, you would only use 3 bits/instruction of course 18:45:32 1 bit per character? darn, my conciseness-based conlang only does 75% compression compared to english :| 18:45:57 that figure may have been anecdotal though 18:46:16 indeed, sounds a bit of a coinsidence 18:46:52 oklopol: In my crypto classes, I heard figures of at least 1.6 18:47:07 (we covered a little compression) 18:47:15 i'm sure it varies greatly 18:47:19 1.6 meaning? 18:47:29 bits per character 18:47:30 bits of entropy per char 18:47:35 yes 18:47:38 what bsmntbombdood said 18:48:20 eh... that was kinda obvious, sorry :D 18:48:27 have a look at the middle image here- http://folklore.org/projects/Macintosh/images/polaroids/polaroids.2.jpg 18:49:08 what you see there is the original prototype interface for the Apple Lisa, the final version of which became the macintosh GUI. 18:49:39 I like it 18:50:44 imagine what computers would be like today if softkey-driven keyboard based UIs had become dominant back in the day. 18:53:13 the window manager i use is completely key driven 18:53:42 that's not really the same thing, unless your "window manager" is mc 18:54:29 what's that? 18:54:38 midnight commander? 18:54:48 it's kinda like dosshell 18:55:03 i thought that was a file manager 18:56:11 Linux Mint 3.1 is out! 18:56:24 dosshell is a little more than a file manager 18:59:40 in case anyone happens to know how to get my own ip on ubuntu in python, i'd appreciate it 18:59:56 google only gives me getaddrinfo crap that only works on win 19:00:12 Ask in #python ? 19:00:18 great idea! :) 19:20:27 -!- SEO_DUDE has quit (Remote closed the connection). 19:34:56 -!- SEO_DUDE has joined. 19:38:45 ok oklopol i've got a pic 19:43:20 http://abacus.kwzs.be/~bsmntbombdood/hat_goggles.jpg 19:43:24 dunno why it's so grainy 19:44:32 i gotta get me one of those 19:46:07 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 19:47:13 * Sgeo can't wait to play with the new version of LM 19:47:36 * Sgeo is downloading it now 19:47:39 wait a minute, an actual, clear, part-of-face showing picture of bsmntbombdood? impossible :D 19:49:27 have you seen the latest, greatest conspiracy theory? 19:49:44 hm? 19:49:57 http://digg.com/videos/music/How_our_financial_system_really_works 19:50:47 alas, the only way yet found to get a load of monkies to work hard is debt like that. 19:51:23 oerjan: only part of face, so it's good 19:51:55 * SimonRC presses the ENHANCE button 19:52:17 but the hat and goggles are way cool, right? 19:52:24 i wore them to school today 19:54:06 oerjan: WAIT WHAT 19:54:10 that's against the laws of nature 19:54:14 call the nature police 19:56:21 * Sgeo keeps downloading LM 19:56:22 LM3.1 19:56:58 what is that? 20:00:16 * oklopol is dissappointed no one misinterpreted him to refer to bsmntbombdood with his remark 20:00:29 ? 20:00:57 "(oklopol) i gotta get me one of those" 20:02:00 i know, i'm in high demand 20:04:38 really wore that to school? 20:04:49 yeah 20:05:00 i used to be a cook too... nowadays i don't bother going to school anymore :< 20:05:14 "cook" 20:05:16 loonie 20:05:20 * oerjan thinks the top of bsmntbombdood's head must be _really_ ugly. 20:05:20 kook 20:05:37 -!- sebbu has quit (Connection timed out). 20:06:01 you've seen the top of my head before 20:06:03 i think 20:06:16 * SimonRC points out a picture he drew (explanation to follow at some point in the future): http://users.durge.org/~sc/Kigdatsi/pics/Kig_20070922.png 20:06:17 yeah http://abacus.kwzs.be/~bsmntbombdood/pic_3.jpg 20:06:19 * SimonRC goes to watch TV. 20:06:20 or maybe it's just that americans have really weird fashion sense 20:07:18 i don't get it 20:07:20 aha, i didn't know you were in the picture 20:08:07 -!- SEO_DUDE has quit (Remote closed the connection). 20:08:12 SimonRC: dragon sex? 20:08:20 hm, maybe it's that "666" on his forehead he doesn't want to show, it's covered in both... 20:09:02 it's not intentionally covered in #3 20:09:27 i don't think we've ever seen pics of you oerjan ... 20:10:42 busted! 20:11:05 i'm actually a lizard 20:12:01 kinky 20:12:20 i used to have a pass photo on my homepage but a friend said i looked like a Hitlerjugend so i took it away... i don't actually have any kind of digital camera 20:12:31 or scanner. 20:12:44 excuses, excuses 20:14:00 O.o xkcd jokes reuse! 20:14:07 still in the directory though - http://oerjan.nvg.org/face.gif~ but it's at least 10 years old 20:14:44 that's hitlerjugend like? 20:14:58 i can see the resemblence! .. no i can't 20:15:10 oerjan: that can't be you! 20:15:19 also, oerjan, i'm going to ignore that photo because my mental-image-o-tron does not percieve you as looking like that 20:15:21 have fun 20:15:24 it was a friend with a weird sense of humor :) 20:15:33 heh :D 20:15:45 because of the reason ehird` said 20:15:51 oerjan of FRC! 20:16:14 norwegians never pose for a pic without a massive cod in their hand! 20:16:19 Sgeo: what, you recognize the picture? O_O 20:16:23 hm? 20:16:38 No, it's just that you are of the Fantasy Rules Comittee 20:16:46 right? 20:16:55 used to be, yes. 20:17:34 * Sgeo used to love reading the archives 20:17:50 * Sgeo still does actually 20:17:54 germany is O.o 20:18:02 i just thought if you were on FRC, you might actually have seen that picture when it was on my homepage :D 20:18:03 you can't say "sieg heil"?!? 20:19:00 oklopol: i _hate_ fishing despite that both my grandfathers were fishermen and my father loves it 20:19:07 bsmntbombdood: you can't do shit in germany because of the whole nazi thing 20:19:23 yeah 20:19:24 more or less the same with skis, btw 20:19:31 fighting opression with opression! 20:19:49 oppression i think you mean 20:20:00 yes 20:20:56 oerjan: i'll just ignore that and continue to think of you as a long-haired fishing-loving satan-worshipper! 20:21:36 * oklopol listens to a lot of death metal 20:21:46 or what's it called 20:21:48 heh 20:21:59 i'm very bad with genres :) 20:22:04 norwegian death metal? 20:22:08 just to completely ruin everything, i must mention that i love ABBA :D 20:22:11 black i guess 20:22:20 :D 20:22:32 btw, death metal sucks 20:22:45 i'm not sure what death metal is. 20:22:47 but i love mayhem 20:22:55 so does black metal 20:22:57 and dimmu :P 20:23:03 what's wrong with it? 20:23:24 lol, dimmu 20:23:33 "death cult armageddon" 20:24:55 no one takes the lyrics seriously :P 20:25:14 it's just nice music 20:25:32 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dc/Gorgorothvid.jpg 20:25:40 omg they r k00l!!!!!!!! 20:26:32 Haikus are fun/but this is not/a haiku 20:27:23 verry cool :D 20:29:36 i agree that is one ridiculous outfit, but i don't understand people who wear anything but black t-shirts anyway 20:29:45 Haikus are fun/but this is not/a haiku/haikus have no more than 3 lines 20:30:35 lol there's a death metal band called necrophagia 20:30:45 that's fuuuny 20:31:06 :DD 20:31:12 gorgasm is one of my favorite 20:31:14 *s 20:31:33 cannibal corpse is a classic of course, but that's usually pretty dull melodically 20:34:26 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_Yngve_Ohlin 20:34:32 ^^ that guy is also funny 20:37:26 was your reason for death metal sucking the fact the people who make it are idiots? :P 20:37:39 or do you have something against the actual music? 20:37:47 i just don't like the music 20:38:17 you must not have heard gorgasm, it's absolute beauty 20:38:27 doom metal is much better 20:38:38 hmm... can you give me an example band :P 20:38:44 i have no idea what that is 20:38:49 candlemass, black sabbath 20:40:44 oh 20:41:15 i haven't heard much black sabbath 20:44:15 hehe, this is some groovy rock 'n' roll ;) 20:44:48 yeah, black sabbath is good 20:45:19 do not turn my sarcasm around! 20:45:40 huh? 20:46:15 you like rock 'n' roll? 20:46:27 yes 20:46:32 ah 20:46:36 i didn't think anyone would 20:47:46 * oerjan beats oklopol with a stick 20:48:30 :D 20:49:00 abba is better than sabbath 20:49:10 well, according to this one random song i heard. 20:49:10 lololol 20:49:22 abba is terrrrrible 20:49:38 * Sgeo wants to play some Fantasy Chess 20:50:13 the solo part is okay 20:50:50 abba, like most pop, occasionally has nice melodies, but uses too little of them per song 20:54:12 oklopol: you probably listened to bad sabbath 20:55:26 i may have, these ancient bands i've doomed to be bad for no apparent reason sometimes turn out to be pretty decent. 20:56:25 ancient bands are the only good ones 20:58:22 everything went downhill after Akhenaton's Sun Hymn, really 20:59:02 damn straight 20:59:20 music gets better all the time 21:00:21 even pop nowadays sometimes sounds like music from time to time 21:00:31 + occasionally 21:02:30 whooooaaa i'm seeing flying starts 21:02:33 *stars 21:02:40 crazy 21:06:38 it's probably just a side effect of having a tetrahedron on your head. watch out for weird time distortions. 21:06:54 heh 21:16:49 when i woke up 3 hours ago, i actually felt like i could do something for a change 21:17:00 i now realize i did not 21:18:48 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 21:33:49 -!- jix has quit ("CommandQ"). 22:09:06 -!- cherez has joined. 22:09:24 -!- cherez has left (?). 22:28:20 taste in music is subjective, surprise! 22:37:03 -!- oerjan has quit ("Good night"). 22:39:39 -!- Sgeo has joined.