< 1187914235 0 :turtletime!n=mattlins@vrnawihed51-pool2-a186.vrnawi.tds.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1187914655 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1187914682 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1187914711 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone use EsoAPI or PESOIX? < 1187915084 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone use BFComp? < 1187915086 0 :importantshock!n=importan@cpe-76-189-230-110.neo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1187915089 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi importantshock < 1187915150 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1187915166 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :howdy < 1187915170 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going on? < 1187915176 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much < 1187915178 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is playing with BFC and PESOIX
< 1187915180 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WRU? < 1187915199 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it still called BFC? < 1187915225 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :western reserve? < 1187915230 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a private high school now. < 1187915256 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THat's not what I meant < 1187915266 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.clifford.at/bfcpu/bfcomp.html < 1187915275 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1187915302 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote my first interpreter for an esoteric language today! < 1187915336 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations importantshock < 1187915346 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm totally thrilled with myself < 1187915350 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187915377 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which? < 1187915472 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HQ9+ < 1187915478 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i did it in Haskell! < 1187915483 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i am still learning < 1187915494 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and getting an accumulator to work properly was a Herculean task < 1187915503 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1187915511 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, don't laugh < 1187915513 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i are not smart < 1187915529 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes, Haskell FTW < 1187915551 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might find that monad transformers help greatly < 1187915555 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i agree, incrementing the accumulator is certainly harder in haskell than it ought to be for the purpose of implementing HQ9+ < 1187915603 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a mind-bender wrapping my head around monads < 1187915621 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you can just make a "lazy" implementation, that simply wouldn't increment the accumulator at all - that's in the spirit of haskell :) < 1187915650 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: That was my first implementation :P < 1187915671 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you get monads you are above most programmers < 1187915676 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or use IORefs, or use a StateT on top of IO < 1187915728 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went out and bought a book on Haskell today < 1187915731 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you using Parsec to parse it? :) < 1187915737 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: yes, Parsec is awesome < 1187915745 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there equivalents in other languages? < 1187915754 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now my goal is to understand monads < 1187915774 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably understand monads if you think parsec is awesome :) < 1187915818 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :believe me, i don't understand monads. i do understand how much better Parsec is than using regular expressions, though. < 1187915825 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cue tired, but relevant, jwz quote. < 1187915870 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how come you're not in #haskell? < 1187915874 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1. If the PESOIX aware esotool has declared that it supports memory < 1187915874 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cells, the current cell will be set to NUL." ick, that makes writing this thing harder < 1187916009 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR that Python has a library that is trivially equivalent to Parsec. Also C++. < 1187916019 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+" < 1187916034 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although Python ++ circucular definition == pain < 1187916106 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the python one called? < 1187916112 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1187916119 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the name arouns somewhere... < 1187916286 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pyparser, I think < 1187916367 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pyparsing, i think < 1187916370 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/ < 1187916422 0 :cosmic_string!i=cosmic_s@c-68-84-9-160.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1187916735 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: PESOIX needs to be cleaned up. . . Near as I can tell, it requires much more access to interpreter state than I/O. < 1187916758 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, an *interpreter* would be nice. < 1187916785 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hates the alteration of memory
< 1187916887 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION proposes that the results of a PESOIX command shall be given on stdin. . .
< 1187916929 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shall we call this room the International PESOIX 2 convention? :p < 1187917093 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.clifford.at/bfcpu/bfcomp.html needs more publicity < 1187917111 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is writing a PESOIX library for BFC
< 1187917124 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeeze. . . < 1187917146 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a remarkably inefficient macro language. < 1187917164 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1187917166 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PFUCK's BFC rendition was nearly a megabyte. < 1187917175 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PFUCK? < 1187917185 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Brainfuck->C compiler, now in PEBBLE. < 1187917233 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PEBBLE? < 1187917250 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*groan* < 1187917261 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Practicle Esoteric Brainfuck-Based Language, Eh? < 1187917266 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/pebble.php < 1187917274 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only been working on it for, what, a year? < 1187917282 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and obsessively talking about it) < 1187917296 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: wow....just wow. < 1187917305 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION kneels before pikhq
< 1187917308 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1187917490 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if BFC code could easily be converted into PEBBLE
< 1187917734 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it could be done the other way around.. PEBBLE is more expressive/powerful >.> < 1187917741 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/is/seems to be/ < 1187917876 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, the hard part would involve BFC's local variables. . . < 1187917909 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PEBBLE, BTW, is to BFC as C is to C#. ;) < 1187917943 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't aware of any "right" or "left" commands in BFC..
< 1187917955 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'>'; < 1187917963 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant by a variable number < 1187917991 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do those commands only accept constants? < 1187918138 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"right" and "left" only accept constants. . . < 1187918176 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while condition {right 1} nets you a variable amount, just like '[>]'; does in BFC/BF polyglot. < 1187918185 0 :turtletime!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1187918268 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it safe to say that [in PESOIX] 00h 00h will always be regular output 00h? < 1187918276 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like in EsoAPI? < 1187918284 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Meh." < 1187918289 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are dialects allwoed to change that? < 1187918355 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea. < 1187918624 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wrt Select Dialect] "A return code indicating sucess or failure will be placed on the input < 1187918624 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :channel, your application should read this value and respond < 1187918624 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :appropriately." < 1187918627 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY < 1187918679 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Return code 0 - PESOIX-SetDialect was successful < 1187918679 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Return code 1 - PESOIX-SetDialect failed < 1187918692 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, should I have the macro return those directly? < 1187918707 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't even up to that yet though
< 1187918961 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oO < 1187919017 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PESOIX specs for a PESOIX tool indicating that it does not support memory writes conflicts with non-PESOIX interpreters that might return 0 on first read.. e.g. EOF=0 and no input or something < 1187919089 0 :Figs!n=Figs@ip72-220-174-159.sd.sd.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1187919147 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, wrote pesoix_init() and p_out() < 1187919606 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00h 00h should be reserved in all dialects, IMO < 1187920502 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jonripley.com/easel/api.txt some of those don't NEED PESOIX < 1187920528 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will include a supplimentary BFC file to provide non-PESOIX versions of some of that stuff
< 1187920622 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION would like you to just write some PESOIX versions of PEBBLE macros. :p
< 1187920654 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACRONYM of the ACRONYMING ACRONYM < 1187920656 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be back laterish < 1187920731 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AOTAA: "AOTAA of the AOTTA AOTTA" < 1187922949 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1187922972 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, hm? < 1187923063 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :baxk! < 1187923073 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*back < 1187923078 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb Figs < 1187923086 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks :D < 1187923095 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should also write a Python implementation of PESOIX while he's at it
< 1187923104 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PESOIX? < 1187923259 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/PESOIX < 1187923269 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jonripley.com/easel/ < 1187923323 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.badongo.com/file/4139332 < 1187923328 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :new song ;) < 1187923341 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feedback always appreciated :) < 1187923968 0 :turtletime!n=mattlins@vrnawihed51-pool2-a186.vrnawi.tds.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1187924282 0 :turtletime!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1187924738 0 :cosmic_string!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1187924761 0 :turtletime!n=mattlins@vrnawihed51-pool2-a186.vrnawi.tds.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1187924828 0 :turtletime!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1187925290 0 :turtletime!n=mattlins@vrnawihed51-pool2-a186.vrnawi.tds.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1187925607 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1187925612 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a funny story on xkcd < 1187925614 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When I was a lot younger, say about five or so, we went on vacation in Germany (we did a trip a few countries in western Europe), that is my mom and dad, my older brother, myself and my younger brother, who was about three. < 1187925614 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1187925614 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We go to a restaurant and everyone orders and then the waiter brings drinks or something (don't remember exactly what). So my dad says "Thank you", my mom says "thank you", my older brother does and me as well. However, my younger brother says "fuck you"." < 1187925618 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the forums) < 1187925657 0 :turtletime!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1187925702 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would a Python non-memory-altering PESOIX interpreter be appreciated? < 1187925765 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that it'd be the first one ever, yes. < 1187925777 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first PESOIX interpreter ever? < 1187925783 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do believe so. < 1187925787 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yayayay! < 1187925798 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION 's code will probably be filled with WTFs though :/
< 1187925818 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is a WTF..
< 1187925902 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't you ever seen anything I've written? I'm gonna give DailyWTF a run for its money one of these days... < 1187926276 0 :turtletime!n=mattlins@vrnawihed51-pool2-a186.vrnawi.tds.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1187926997 0 :Chuck_!n=echuck@60.254.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1187928281 0 :turtletime!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1187929117 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION unilaterally decides his PESOIX interpreter will have a semantic deviation from the current PESOIX spec
< 1187929132 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thread is epic < 1187929135 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :156 pages < 1187929148 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's natural. < 1187929162 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The current PESOIX spec is difficult to impossible. < 1187929170 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1187929181 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION simply wants 00h 00h to print NUL regardless of dialect
< 1187929187 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that ... appropriate for an esolang? < 1187929260 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I don't have the sort of skill necessary for the PESOIX interpreter to ask the user upon each dangerous PESOIX operation :/ < 1187929296 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION might have them enablable from switch, and have it ALWAYS write to stderr
< 1187930280 0 :Chuck_!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1187931555 0 :rechercher!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i train megahal? < 1187931562 0 :rechercher!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :his man page is not so manly < 1187931606 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you talk to him < 1187931608 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it. < 1187931614 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give it testosterone injections < 1187931614 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or use the training file < 1187931631 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should autotrain if the file is detected < 1187931641 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise just talk to him and he'll learn from you.' < 1187932402 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arg < 1187932404 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1187932426 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I use Python's select.select, that would mean PESOIX couldn't run on Windows < 1187932434 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PESOIX would need POSIX >.> < 1187933277 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next version of PESOIX should be called PESOX >.> < 1187933291 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.physorg.com/news107109720.html < 1187933517 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I think I'm not going to implement PESOIX < 1187933521 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PESOX, here I come < 1187933525 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not now < 1187933528 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to sleep < 1187933537 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do what you will. < 1187933541 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do no harm. < 1187933542 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1187933547 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go forth. < 1187933556 0 :rechercher!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooo, i got it < 1187933565 0 :rechercher!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rename a huge txt file megahal.trn < 1187933598 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually just talk to it for a few hours < 1187933601 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more fun that way < 1187933711 0 :rechercher!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm, especially if you do megahal | espeak < 1187933729 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :espeak? < 1187933801 0 :rechercher!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :text to speech for stdin < 1187933878 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably should disable type writter mode then... < 1187933905 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1187933917 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION HATES HATES HATES the idea of PESOIX writing to memory
< 1187933942 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'writing to memory'? < 1187933959 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I don't want to name something PESOX unless it's substantially different, but my ideas aren't PESOIX < 1187933979 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs, PESOIX can sometime write directly to a cell-based esolangs' cells < 1187933983 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. Brainfuck < 1187933990 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hates that idea
< 1187933995 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1187934018 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means that fewer esolangs will work with PESOIX < 1187934027 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to PESOIX's full capacity, I mean < 1187934057 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do it then? < 1187934062 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also means that to add those features, I'd need to integrate PESOIX with the esolang's interpreter < 1187934076 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't you need to anyway? < 1187934083 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1187934087 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1187934092 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can make a wrapper around an interpreter < 1187934096 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Treat it like a blackbox < 1187934108 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With me modifying stdin and sdtout < 1187934114 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1187934116 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that's how PESOIX communicates.. < 1187934118 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1187934127 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it isn't modifying memory < 1187934134 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then don't modify memory? < 1187934146 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus what he's saying. < 1187934163 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I miss the problem. < 1187934169 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ed < 1187934182 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some things in the PESOIX spec that say "modify memory, or don't include this".. I want to include it, but via stdin/stdout < 1187934212 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then do something else? < 1187934224 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PESGEOX < 1187934230 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1187934245 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was thinking PESOX, but that should really be for something really new, IMO
< 1187934253 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it PNP and really confuse people < 1187934263 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PNP's Not PESOIX... < 1187934269 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1187934297 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or better, call it PNP-PESOIX < 1187934309 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PNP's Not PESOIX - PESOIX < 1187934334 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PESOX is funny too *defending name* < 1187934343 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IX -> X < 1187934349 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 -> 10 < 1187934358 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives Sgeo a pair of socks
< 1187934362 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it PSOX < 1187934410 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1187934427 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I the only one who gets *really* embaressed by accidently unplugging the headphones? < 1187934438 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even when what comes out is perfectly legit? < 1187934440 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187934563 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why PSOX? < 1187934635 0 :Eidolos!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: hehe, me too < 1187934675 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semantic difference between PESOIX and PESOX: 00h 00h in PESOX is always print NUL < 1187934691 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PESOIX is the same, because both existant dialects do that, but there's a semantic difference < 1187934874 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just be sure to document your changes. < 1187934999 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will do < 1187935004 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PESOX will have versioning < 1187935025 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only have a vague idea now, and it's time to go to sleep < 1187935028 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'night all < 1187935198 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1187935735 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bye" < 1187935779 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Eidolos, have you seen jamendo.com? < 1187935862 0 :Eidolos!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1187935877 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take a look < 1187935886 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :free legal music by independant artists :D] < 1187935898 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of it is even good < 1187935903 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :legal is over rated < 1187935939 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, well, if you're a soon-to-be-college student in the US like me... < 1187935940 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's not legal, they can put you in jail for 5 months, along with forcing you to use windows for the 5 months after that < 1187935943 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^.^ < 1187935963 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already use windows... :S < 1187935988 0 :Eidolos!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor guy < 1187936022 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eeeeew. < 1187936041 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1187936049 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: As far as I'm concerned, that's cruel and unusual punishment. < 1187936050 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION drips windex on you
< 1187936078 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :his internet connection is monitored, that's pretty cruel too < 1187936085 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1187936105 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably set up a script to just show goatse to the log for those 5 months. < 1187936146 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/PESOIX <<< if this is the PESOIX spec, you people are seriously skilled at reading between then lines < 1187936192 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187936194 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oklokok < 1187936230 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mentions the word "piano" and tries to see if psychology has any merits...
< 1187936247 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DD < 1187936250 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187936259 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i played guitar a bit the other day < 1187936277 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.badongo.com/file/4139332 < 1187936294 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: goatse may be considered obscene (illegal) in the US < 1187936343 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok, take a look at my link :D < 1187936351 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you get hit with parole violation and transporting obscenity < 1187936358 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: The definition for obscenity is fairly loose. < 1187936369 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1187936381 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jonripley.com/easel/api.txt <<< oh, this is actually pretty cool < 1187936385 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering a guy got put away for 10 years for selling lightbulbs... < 1187936388 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: i'm getting there < 1187936393 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And given that the goatse pic comes from an actual sold collection of porn pictures, it seems likely to me that it would not fit that definition. < 1187936436 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: in that case, it applies to prurient interest < 1187936468 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be considered to depict excretory or sexual functions in an offensive way < 1187936480 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: And given that the goatse pic comes from an actual sold collection of porn pictures, it seems likely to me that it would not fit that definition. <- then wouldn't you be violating copyright law by illegally downloading porn? < 1187936492 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck; you would. < 1187936493 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it could be said to lack serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value < 1187936500 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence, it could be said to be obscene < 1187936519 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same applies to some of what passes for 'art' today. < 1187936520 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at first I though you just said "fuck you" :P < 1187936569 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: It has uh, historical value... uh, to the development of the internet... uh, yeah... really! :P < 1187936603 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i'm going to go to sleep and dream of anal stretching and how its depictions relate to obscenity laws < 1187936618 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahah < 1187936629 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.answers.com/topic/p-emoticon-shouting?cat=technology <<< i'm pretty sure that's wrong, or at least an obsolete definition < 1187936634 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad we could help to further *stretch* your imagination... < 1187936644 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*open* your mind... < 1187936648 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a bumper sticker that says "i fap to goatse" < 1187936658 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1187936664 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::S < 1187936678 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where di you get your name bsmntbombdood? < 1187936679 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with maybe a E03 < 1187936685 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people would yawn from all the old when they saw that < 1187936694 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :----> bed < 1187936695 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bull shit mountain bomb dude"? < 1187936733 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did I totally misinterpret your name? :S < 1187936737 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bed, eh? < 1187936742 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well tell me later then ^.^ < 1187936759 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok, I just mistyped your name as "kolokoko" < 1187936782 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187936787 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you listen? < 1187936804 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just scramble a few o's, k's and l's and you get pretty near. < 1187936810 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm getting to it! < 1187936834 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lokoloko! < 1187936859 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklolo < 1187936891 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sees he's getting to oklokok~!
< 1187936902 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :successful attack of the secret ninja man! < 1187936952 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1187936962 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1187936974 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i opened your song link twice, but it's not open. < 1187936980 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1187936981 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1187936984 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give it a third time? :) < 1187936987 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.badongo.com/file/4139332 < 1187937163 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now listening < 1187937173 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1187937251 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blargh... can't hear a thing < 1187937257 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll redl the file.. < 1187937266 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1187937292 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won < 1187937299 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'t play it < 1187937302 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.| < 1187937318 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn up your volume? < 1187937321 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: basement < 1187937329 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just listening to another mid :P < 1187937330 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1187937342 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :headphones :D < 1187937352 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... i'm pretty sure i have volume < 1187937353 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you hear it at alll? < 1187937360 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :headphone hole not work < 1187937365 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1187937377 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can no-at all hear. < 1187937385 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1187937387 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.< < 1187937390 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno then < 1187937397 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :works fine here, obviously :P < 1187937441 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1187937442 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1187937455 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imported it into guitar pro, and i got a score. < 1187937459 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now listening. < 1187937461 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1187937468 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHUT < 1187937476 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see the notes, but it won't play xD < 1187937483 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1187937488 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe wtf? :P < 1187937534 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* :P < 1187937545 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess no one shall ever hear my song then < 1187937588 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay... made it into a gp4 song and reopened, i can hear it now! < 1187937591 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now listening! < 1187937597 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY < 1187937677 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :relisten < 1187937759 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty nice < 1187937808 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks ;) < 1187937814 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any suggestions? < 1187937839 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was afraid it'd turn out overly trivial at first, because of the basic chord pattern, but it quickly evolved and proved me wrong < 1187937842 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1187938222 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't say i do, the long chords are a bit ...i lose the word here < 1187938258 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :long chords? < 1187938286 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see anything wrong with stopping a quick run in a long note, but it somewhat kills the "go" :P < 1187938299 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really seem to have forgotten all my vocabulary. < 1187938324 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :long chords < 1187938351 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean... a chord you play for the whole bar < 1187938384 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they work well when you do the prefixing ghost note... eh, i mean, the ti-dii xD < 1187938396 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1187938415 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time position? < 1187938416 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is very hard to explain without being able to sing what i mean. < 1187938432 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just give me time positions :D < 1187938450 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could, if i wasn't playing from guitar pro < 1187938460 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bar numbers? < 1187938468 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note names? < 1187938508 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see what you mean though < 1187938511 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... i'll have to retract that statement, there's nothing wrong with doing that, really < 1187938531 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I over-do it a bit though for a 1:12 song < 1187938556 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1187938581 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i'd do, is i'd make left play short low melodies when the chord stops < 1187938595 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1187938601 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on a second < 1187938640 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay, i'd make it slash a few very low octaves in a rapid manner, but you do something less theatrical, merecommends :P < 1187938704 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do the leftie melody, you get the stop, but the melody continues anyhow < 1187938707 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.badongo.com/file/4140970 < 1187938743 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :similar to the later parts of this? < 1187938765 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was nothing wrong with that as it was, though, i just feel obligated to give a suggestion when asked. < 1187938767 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'll listen < 1187938781 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you're right though < 1187938786 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my piece doesn't flow too well < 1187938802 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like 'move move move stop.... move move move stop...." < 1187938828 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a problem caused by my use of 4-bar patterns < 1187938841 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1187938856 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bar 20 is where it doesn't sound that good, i think all the other long bars work < 1187938898 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 36 might need some spicing up, since at that point you're kinda *going for the big final* < 1187938938 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the beginning it doesn't have to be that flowsome, since you're just introducing the theme < 1187938965 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you think of bar 8? < 1187938974 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think you do the stops pretty well when the melody starts < 1187938978 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1187938999 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works < 1187939046 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fine stopping like that before starting a new theme < 1187939060 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "ghost" thing you meant was bar 16 maybe? < 1187939062 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus, left hand makes it obvious there's a stop ahead < 1187939076 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of the... *oklokok sings what he means* < 1187939079 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1187939083 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187939123 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... just play leftie in the beginning and you'll know what i mean < 1187939126 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a lot I could still do with this, actually < 1187939131 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since you pointed it out < 1187939148 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last rise into the chord makes it work, but i'll see about bar 16 < 1187939172 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 would be blunt if you didn't continue right away < 1187939195 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think that somehow also justifies bar 16 being long < 1187939223 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, the quick not before 16 is exactly something you might do when doing a long chord < 1187939250 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 16 might need a left-hand melody there or something, it might be a *bit* too long < 1187939280 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the issue is basically with the rhythm of the "cadences" (not sure if that term is meant to apply outside of chords, but meh, I'll use it) < 1187939310 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17-28 is your main problem area iyam < 1187939340 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like the rhythm of the non-stop areas in that? < 1187939381 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, good old afterbeat < 1187939385 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whaddyacallit < 1187939388 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187939419 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically the first part repeated with the notes that fuck up the harmony removed < 1187939425 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it sounded kind of cool < 1187939449 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I also shifted it down < 1187939510 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see what you mean by that, though i didn't know you'd generated the melody that wayt < 1187939512 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*way < 1187939516 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1187939522 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, it sounds pretty cool < 1187939524 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1187939560 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i recall you having some more complex rhythms in a song sometime... don't remember where exactly < 1187939583 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I play with rhythm occasionally < 1187939588 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shifted cde -> abc < 1187939593 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1187939670 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of making myself a game that generates melodies and you have to note up the melody < 1187939698 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe :P < 1187939705 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could sell it to music majors < 1187939715 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to do that stuff to get their degree < 1187939730 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be fun to make different melody generators, plus that'd be a much more natural way for me to improve my ear than making scores for existing songs < 1187939747 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187939767 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some notes I can tell < 1187939770 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most I have no idea < 1187939776 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but G is one of them... < 1187939781 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when played on the midi pian < 1187939783 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*piano < 1187939788 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1187939795 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can find G, it's trivial finding the rest < 1187939801 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can usually always tell the G above the treble cleff < 1187939823 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually no < 1187939825 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't the piano < 1187939829 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was the vibraphone... :P < 1187939868 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, i have the occasional skill of knowing what tone a key on my piano will produce, but that's it < 1187939879 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the program wouldn't ask you for absolute noting < 1187939896 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess it could on harder levels or smth. < 1187939915 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's basically what it is < 1187939924 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got used to particular notes my program makes < 1187939936 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't apply it to other instruments very well < 1187939990 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I could be relatively decent at playing things I've heard in the key of A minor < 1187939999 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a bit of practice < 1187940110 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you play metal, i can usually memorize a piece on a few hearings and play it straight away < 1187940143 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pop music is just as easy, but classic has too many details for that < 1187940148 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1187940295 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(metal can have a lot of details too, i'm talking about the majority of cases where only the guitar solo is complex :)) < 1187940302 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187940496 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't play guitar pro? < 1187940522 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1187940535 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you play guitar pro? < 1187940551 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guitar Pro < 1187940557 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :play guitar pro? The program? < 1187940561 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't own it. < 1187940569 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can't play guitar :P < 1187940588 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant the program < 1187940603 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd've given you a few songs, if you'd had that < 1187940633 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to write a music editing program < 1187941210 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, lament, you once recommended me to read "in search for lost time" or however it's called in english < 1187941240 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a russian book, so i made the assumption you have something to do with the language or the country. < 1187941288 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if that's the only reason i had a feeling you know russian before you told me... guess my brain digs 'em up sooner or later, if there were other quotes. < 1187942399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1187942400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1187947640 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1187947813 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host180-86-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1187953582 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1187953595 0 :Tritonio!n=Tritonio@150.140.228.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1187953908 0 :lizendir!n=lorien@host-90-188-131-205.pppoe.omsknet.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1187954818 0 :lizendir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1187957818 0 :turtletime!n=mattlins@64.73.32.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1187958072 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1187964302 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1187965654 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I'm quitting... Bye all" < 1187967074 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1187971760 0 :Tritonio_!n=Tritonio@150.140.227.234 JOIN :#esoteric < 1187971773 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1187971882 0 :Tritonio_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1187971894 0 :Tritonio!n=Tritonio@150.140.227.234 JOIN :#esoteric < 1187973301 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-53-118.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1187976852 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1187977091 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1187977285 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=poiuyqwe@bas2-toronto47-1242398635.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1187977439 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/BF_machine < 1187977450 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks that maybe that could become part of PESOX
< 1187977751 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats PESOX? < 1187977786 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My idea of a sort of improved PESOIX < 1187977891 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1187978017 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything that uses PESOIX out there? < 1187978032 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because PESOX will be generally incompatible :/ < 1187978336 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anything use EsoAPI? < 1187978465 0 :keyn!n=keyn@78.32.132.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1187978473 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi keyn < 1187978481 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes pikhq
< 1187978727 0 :keyn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Sgeo < 1187979063 0 :rechercher!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1187980450 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1187980709 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.125.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1187981259 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re pikhq < 1187982429 0 :oklokok!n=oko@a84-230-179-2.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1187982644 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi oklokok < 1187983193 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-99-227.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1187983370 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi sebbu < 1187983373 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sebbu2, < 1187984276 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Supper" < 1187984322 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1187984743 0 :lhadie!n=asdf@adsl-68-125-110-97.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1187984749 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi lhadie < 1187984756 0 :lhadie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um.. hi.. < 1187984803 0 :gnomon!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1187985524 0 :turtletime!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1187986289 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to stay focused on PESOX
< 1187987479 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1187988111 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1187988123 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes output NUL be 0x00 0x00 0x00 instead of 0x00
< 1187988125 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1187988129 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of 0x00 0x00 < 1187988359 0 :keyn!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"kaerimashou" < 1187988373 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm n/m < 1187988394 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x00 0x00-0x03 will be reserved by PESOX :/ < 1187988605 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually only 0x00 0x00-0x02 < 1187988713 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, afaict, exit with 0 will be 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x03 0x00 < 1187988745 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x00 0x02 0x00 < 1187988751 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x00 0x03 0x00 < 1187988762 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host180-86-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1187988771 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x00 0x02 0x00 - switch to domain 0 < 1187988776 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x00 0x03 0x00 - exit(0) < 1187988782 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi RedDak < 1187988818 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oegs ih! < 1187988952 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make that: 0x00 0x01 0x00 - switch to domain 0 < 1187988961 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x00 0x02 0x00 -exit(0) < 1187989215 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to try to write a PESOX bf program
< 1187989294 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.+++++++.-------.,[-]..,[-].+.-..++.--. < 1187989370 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x00 0x07 [init] 0x00 [majorver] 0x00 0x00 [minorver] 0x00 0x01 0x00 [domainswitch to 0x00] 0x00 0x02 0x00 [exit0] < 1187989517 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think that PEBBLE already has a library to handle PESOIX < 1187989559 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oO hm? < 1187989611 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1187989617 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where? < 1187989760 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hopes not, because so far PESOX is completely incompatible with EsoAPI and PESOIX
< 1187989913 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realizes that domain0 won't work.. *changes PESOX-System domain to 0x01*
< 1187989937 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I don't even have that in the spec < 1187989941 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*changes it mentally* < 1187990418 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I can use domain0 < 1187991474 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1187991519 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi oerjan < 1187991572 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Sgeo < 1187991672 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION keeps working on PESOX
< 1187991790 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please note that PESOX, as described here, is in no way whatsoever backwards compatible with either PESOIX or EsoAPI 1.0.. if there is enough demand, I might eventually try to figure out how to fix that.." < 1187991941 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought there was a versioning thingy... < 1187991957 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Within PESOX versions < 1187991987 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ROT-26 bitches < 1187992953 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: please do not choose a name that looks like a misprint for the name of an existing product in the same field. < 1187992959 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PESOX vs PEOSIX < 1187992964 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1187992968 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PESOX vs PESOIX < 1187992978 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was intentional < 1187993012 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1187993015 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would PSOX be ok? < 1187993028 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was suggested by someone else < 1187993033 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION already forgot who
< 1187993099 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It IS largely inspired by PESOIX though.. < 1187993156 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about psocks? < 1187993169 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, wait, that sounds like a sockets library < 1187993191 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So PSOX is out? < 1187993201 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1187993205 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it is good < 1187993226 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although something with a really contorted actronym would be good too < 1187993243 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone suggested PNP for PNP is Not PESOIX < 1187993258 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then PNP-PESOIX < 1187993327 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PP? < 1187993334 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pseudo-PESOIX < 1187993365 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what's your IRL name? < 1187993379 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to avoid giving that out
< 1187993425 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :POSGEX? < 1187993465 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: it's Osama bin Laden, just don't tell anyone < 1187993530 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the famous one or a diferent one? < 1187993556 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a different one? < 1187993569 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1187994037 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSOX so far: http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/esoteric/psox.txt < 1187994137 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes SimonRC and oerjan
< 1187994166 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: don't give anyone your name on the internet < 1187994169 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see, nobody has your name < 1187994173 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your name is completely unique < 1187994175 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there is a secret website < 1187994182 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where internet stalkers can find your address, picture, and phone number < 1187994186 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just through your unique name < 1187994196 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actally that last bit is effectively true < 1187994214 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if you haven't posted your address, picture and phone number on the internet < 1187994229 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well - you can get address+phone number if you've registered an unprotected domain < 1187994249 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any comments on PSOX? < 1187994283 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard that people can get your address even if you have never posted it on the Internet. < 1187994307 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's via a system called "Earth". < 1187994307 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: umm how < 1187994309 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1187994317 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1187994334 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every address of anyone (AFAIK) is present on the Earth < 1187994431 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks that "references" is a fun word to type on a qwerty keyboard
< 1187994491 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :references < 1187994495 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :references < 1187994496 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :references < 1187994499 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :references < 1187994500 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :references < 1187994505 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :references < 1187994507 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :references < 1187994509 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :references < 1187994511 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's fun about it? < 1187994528 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No comments on PSOX? < 1187994741 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first 7 letters < 1187994758 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe just the first 6 < 1187994769 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just want to type refereferefereferefer... < 1187994777 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you don't < 1187994780 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :refereferefere < 1187994781 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1187994782 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't < 1187994783 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1187994795 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, never mind < 1187994834 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSOX, people! PSOX! < 1187994964 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1187995079 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many bytes are each $foo_VER < 1187995125 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1187995189 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the specs will include a way to specify, at any point, an arbitrary size number < 1187995272 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do such things UTF-style or BER-style < 1187995319 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the former is obvious, the latter means that "0xxx xxxx" == end-of-number, "1xxx xxxx" == number continues < 1187995329 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :understand? < 1187995364 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand the latter, but what's UTF? < 1187995395 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*UTF-style < 1187995400 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STFW < 1187995414 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does unicode have to do with arbitrary-size numbers? < 1187995448 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1187995493 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF is a way of encoding quite wide numbers so that the small ones fit in one byte, but there is still a way to encode the large ones < 1187995530 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8 maps 21-bit codepoints onto (strings of) 8-bit bytes < 1187995932 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1187996368 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode is only 21-bits? < 1187996377 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it UTF-32 instead of UTF-24 then? < 1187996389 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alignment issues < 1187996405 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :existing 32-bit character sets? < 1187996633 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any comments on the rest of the spec? < 1187997037 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems good so far < 1187997050 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the default namespace mappings? < 1187997061 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously you need 0 = system < 1187997148 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1187997673 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1187997683 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, considering I haven't defined other domains yet.. < 1187997692 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There definately will be a File I/O < 1187997697 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Date/Time < 1187997714 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will probably start off with the functionality of Project Easel
< 1187997738 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Returns number of parameters passed to program on the < 1187997738 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : command line." Maybe that should go into 0? < 1187997874 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1187997988 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure that you can fetch date and time together atomically < 1187998337 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would that work? < 1187998362 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n/m < 1187998390 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oO Project Easel doesn't have that, yet PSOX will =P < 1187998394 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to stop the day-change falling in-between < 1187998400 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/Arsonade/ZorkTfrontcopy.jpg < 1187999051 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1187999084 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if he should really hold onto the idea of some domains (even domains) being premapped