< 1187049605 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blargh, this is pretty tedious stuff manually :PP < 1187049646 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd really like to debug the program sofar before adding direction reversing... < 1187049652 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that he's here anymore < 1187049773 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloopp < 1187050039 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love asm <3 < 1187050061 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when writing mnemoniclessly < 1187052325 0 :Figs!n=Figs@ip72-220-174-159.sd.sd.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1187052463 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>++++++.------------. < 1187052473 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +[+] < 1187052488 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I get the wrong command? < 1187052489 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187052518 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg is not here < 1187052523 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1187052526 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::S < 1187052531 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf ++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>++++++.------------. < 1187052531 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j^ < 1187052532 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot is buggy. < 1187052552 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, more accurately, EgoBot still manages to take 100% of my CPU when you jerks force it to. < 1187052563 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf +++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>++++++.------------. < 1187052563 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :th < 1187052563 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry :( < 1187052576 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: so 1) renice it 2) limit its cpu usage? < 1187052587 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3) detect infinite loops < 1187052593 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: I've done both of those. < 1187052601 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't limited its absolute usage. < 1187052616 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I'm doing now :P < 1187052620 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: proc limits < 1187052628 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf +++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>++++++.------------.---.+++++++++. < 1187052628 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1187052630 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...renice? < 1187052636 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Got all those, it just still allows infinite loops. < 1187052652 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whuz "renice"? < 1187052663 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :put a .001 second sleep between every instruction < 1187052672 0 :EgoBot!n=EgoBot@c-76-27-232-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1187052682 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: What bsmntbombdood just said is not renice. < 1187052687 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: I didn't write the interpreters. < 1187052696 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: However, I am doing that :P < 1187052699 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :run them in a vm < 1187052706 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: But with eight running, they still collectively fuck up my system X-P < 1187052709 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf +++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>++++++.------------.---.+++++++++.>++++[>++++<-]>[<++>-]<.<. < 1187052710 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then n < 1187052718 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: then what is it? < 1187052734 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: Oh, go get a real OS and look it up yourself :P < 1187052759 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: man renice < 1187052771 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: because you should limit collective usage, duh :) < 1187052784 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was an english word i don't know < 1187052791 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Clearly - but I haven't found a good way to do that when I'm just system()'ing. < 1187052799 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf ++++++++++[>+++++++++<-]>+.---------. < 1187052800 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[R < 1187052814 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but indeed, unix prolly has stuff like that < 1187052815 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[well, not system()'ing, but fork+execing, same idea] < 1187052816 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf ++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>+.---------. < 1187052817 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e\ < 1187052819 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::S < 1187052829 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't count < 1187052841 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +[>+] < 1187052847 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :realloc: Cannot allocate memory < 1187052848 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no ololobot pm? < 1187052851 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf +++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>+.---------. < 1187052852 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of < 1187052863 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +[++] < 1187052879 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: i don't know either :) < 1187052909 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf +++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>+.---------.>++++[>++++++++<-]>.<---.++++++++++++. < 1187052909 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of } < 1187052915 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a real os and that's easy to do < 1187052918 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gave it maximum two minutes CPU time, but I'm also limiting it to 33% CPU, so I guess it has six minutes time :P < 1187052940 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: Name one. And no, it's not even close to possible in Windows. < 1187052944 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf +++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>+.---------.>++++[>++++++++<-]>.<---.<++++++++++++. < 1187052945 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of }r < 1187052957 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my opinion is there isn't one < 1187052962 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh X-D < 1187052980 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why he uses Windows, because it's obviously as close to the real one as can be ;D < 1187052984 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codu.org/slox.php < my current solution < 1187052990 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf +++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>+.---------.>++++[>++++++++<-]>. < 1187052991 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of < 1187052999 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>+.---------.>++++[>++++++++<-]>.<. < 1187053003 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf +++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>+.---------.>++++[>++++++++<-]>.<. < 1187053003 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of < 1187053009 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use both unix and windows, unix is better but my laptop feels nice on my lap. < 1187053031 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION 's laptop runs GNU/Linux *shrugs* < 1187053060 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So can our EgoBot crashing ability break slox, GregorR ? < 1187053074 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf +++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>.>++++++++[>++++<-]>.<<. < 1187053075 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n n < 1187053084 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: what are you doing? < 1187053093 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to figure out how to write "of course" < 1187053095 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sukoshi: No - but it runs one slox per process, so three processes = 100% CPU < 1187053101 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I sux0r :P < 1187053116 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Ah. < 1187053146 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: can't you just store the pids and renice when it opens new processes? < 1187053176 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: niceness doesn't actually limit CPU usage, it just changes priority. < 1187053188 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you change cpu usage then? < 1187053188 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write your own scheduler! < 1187053195 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: I use slox :P < 1187053195 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*limit < 1187053200 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want my room not to be so hot from my P4 :P < 1187053206 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll be uplooking then. < 1187053229 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That BF should be close to dying now. < 1187053231 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Then get something other than a P4, dummy! :p < 1187053244 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Good thing I have giant piles of money lying around. < 1187053248 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think GregorR wants his room to be hot because of himself. < 1187053249 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's slox? < 1187053252 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, it died 8-D < 1187053258 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: http://www.codu.org/slox.php < 1187053260 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf +++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>+.[>+>+<<-]>>---------.>++++++++[>++++<-]>.<<---. < 1187053261 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of c < 1187053268 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ain't it though? < 1187053294 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf +++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>+.[>+>+<<-]>>---------.>++++++++[>++++<-]>.<<---.<.++++++.---.+.--------------. < 1187053294 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1187053297 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1187053309 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: why doesn't what i said apply then? < 1187053326 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that can change cpu usage via pid < 1187053377 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: Oh, I see what you're saying. Adjust such that everything is at .3/ < 1187053381 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's a good point. < 1187053401 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1187053414 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't be too hard < 1187053417 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though might be. < 1187053452 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, what a waste of my time < 1187053460 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even post it as a comment < 1187053471 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 hours till school < 1187053473 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :] is disallowed < 1187053478 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey oklokok < 1187053482 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Figs < 1187053482 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you ever play my song...? < 1187053486 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1187053487 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1187053501 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was on camp... and i've been idling for a week now :\ < 1187053504 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... no :< < 1187053507 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1187053513 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1187053516 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you ever going to? < 1187053519 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did you give up? < 1187053552 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i printed the score, it shouldn't be that hard, it's just a bit tedious reading from the screenm < 1187053555 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sceen < 1187053556 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*screen < 1187053560 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1187053598 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can play most parts though, i just don't remember all of it without the score < 1187053637 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the one quite mean part in the middle that i might need to work a bit < 1187053642 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1187053656 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is evil? :P < 1187053665 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen eviler :) < 1187053673 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pieces, not people though! < 1187053681 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187053683 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the most evil < 1187053693 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :horray! < 1187053694 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cid-c86a72bd35ce57db.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Transfer/5.mid < 1187053703 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the song, it's all the cigarettes you're smoking in my head < 1187053714 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... :P < 1187053715 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're like the mafioso from hell < 1187053722 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad I don't smoke < 1187053724 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or drink < 1187053727 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do know that < 1187053737 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rots in the corner for a while < 1187053763 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :new piece I just wrote today < 1187053771 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it still needs work < 1187053774 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187053798 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you compose that? < 1187053801 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1187053809 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot more impressive < 1187053813 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you ;) < 1187053833 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you play that one? < 1187053836 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :parts of it < 1187053843 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the entire song is playable though < 1187053866 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds easier to play than the other one < 1187053872 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it is < 1187053914 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's loosely based on Sonata form < 1187053953 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C major - C minor - G major < 1187053959 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the three sections < 1187053961 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yeah < 1187053979 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second theme should remind you a bit of Mozart's Sonata No. 16 in C < 1187053991 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know very little names. < 1187053993 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that's where I got the idea to write a sonata-ish song < 1187054001 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what 16 is < 1187054002 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kunstderfuge.com/-/midi.asp?file=mozart/piano_sonata_545_1_(c)oguri.mid < 1187054005 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's that one < 1187054049 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that change to minor was the thing i was most impressed by, it's a bit less impressive now that i know you did it knowingly :) < 1187054072 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1187054075 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1187054077 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1187054090 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be more impressive that I did it knowingly < 1187054097 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't do much ...non-polyphonic music on piano nowadays < 1187054109 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to arrange this one < 1187054123 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't seem to be quite sonata like any more when I do < 1187054160 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not imo, i think it's pretty impressive if you'd copy a trick like that from classical music without noticing it. < 1187054206 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kunstderfuge.com/-/midi.asp?file=mozart/piano_sonata_545_1_(c)oguri.mid <<< doesn't work < 1187054212 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, the url < 1187054359 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copy and paste < 1187054396 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1187054607 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cid-c86a72bd35ce57db.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Transfer/Sonata3tmp.mid < 1187054628 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see what I mean < 1187054721 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1187054875 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is the melody though? < 1187054921 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice and zelda :) < 1187054925 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187054940 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you like the additional relative minor extention to the theme? < 1187054952 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the backround is pretty zelda, that is) < 1187054956 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0:19-end < 1187055069 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1187055073 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the long version < 1187055075 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1187055307 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn i gotta go sleep some. < 1187055337 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: did you write those MIDIs? < 1187055407 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes rodger < 1187055417 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely fantastic work < 1187055417 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: Go sleep then :D < 1187055423 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you :) < 1187055441 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm truly impressed- the sonata is beautiful < 1187055454 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're talking about mine, right, and not the Mozart one? < 1187055466 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is just checking < 1187055489 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the ones on Windows Live are mine) < 1187055495 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1187055500 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks :) < 1187055529 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to sleep is hard. < 1187055530 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever considered composing music for games? < 1187055537 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1187055575 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't quite got a game together yet to do the music for < 1187055589 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have some ideas once I do < 1187055684 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in the process of building a series of libraries and game engines to help speed up game development with Java- a couple demos of what I'm working on are here http://rodger.nonlogic.org/games/CRPG/ and here http://rodger.nonlogic.org/games/steamlock/ < 1187055703 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you be interested in teaming up? < 1187055725 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be fun < 1187055735 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must warn you though I have a tendancy to get side tracked :P < 1187055742 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, same here < 1187055758 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got like a dozen projects :P < 1187055766 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, more like half a dozen < 1187055771 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not *that* bad (yet) < 1187055772 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I figure music, like art, is something that can be slowly made a little at a time as a game is developed < 1187055789 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1187055801 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you're just sitting around trying to build an engine... :P < 1187055807 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you could stir yourself to make a track every few weeks, I could furnish games around them < 1187055823 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have over 100 projects unfinished easily :< < 1187055841 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm probably getting close to 1000 < 1187055851 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my "projects" folder tells me I have about 18 in the works < 1187055854 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you count every time I start a song and don't finish it < 1187055867 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :44.1khz 16 bit PCM < 1187055888 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you count in *all* the stuff i have not finished, then i might be close to 1000 as well... < 1187055894 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just meant programming projects < 1187055905 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably actually finish a game except that I'm terrible at pixel art < 1187055921 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pixel art is one of my specialties. :D < 1187055926 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect :) < 1187055940 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually working on some projects that will be very useful for a game engine later < 1187055944 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C++ though < 1187055960 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, even if we can't share code, we can still share ideas and assets < 1187055968 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1187055993 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now, I'm building a reusable scripting engine that's easy to splice into an existing game engine < 1187056006 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of what I'm doing, except not... :P < 1187056032 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote basically a runtime defined class a couple days ago < 1187056033 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're interested in poking around at what I've completed, take a look at this: http://rodger.nonlogic.org/games/CogEngine/CogEngineA01.zip < 1187056062 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm working on a dynamic table class right now < 1187056079 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a basic parser done, but it needs a lot of work to really be useable < 1187056088 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm basically implementing a modified version of FORTH with a system for extending the language with class-specific functions < 1187056100 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1187056124 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far, I'm more or less set, aside from flow control < 1187056128 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way my code actually seems, it's like I'm building a scripting language inside C++ :P < 1187056131 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1187056145 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're implementing forth in java? < 1187056149 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're truly insane < 1187056152 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187056161 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not crazier? < 1187056162 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1) a minimal subset < 1187056175 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#2) less of FORTH's odd low-level stuff < 1187056189 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more like a language *inspired* by FORTH < 1187056196 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... why not just embed a real language? < 1187056206 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a real language < 1187056209 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there's foo-in-jvm for some useful values of foo < 1187056220 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but you have to write it instead of concentrating on the game < 1187056241 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :developing the library is what I'm all about < 1187056254 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody can glue together a bunch of chunks of the Java API and call it good < 1187056265 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working to make things elegant < 1187056288 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this certainly isn't the only thing I'm working on < 1187056292 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :While I tend to agree with you, it's also a big reason why most people never finish things... :) < 1187056307 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, "reinventing the wheel" is. < 1187056308 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if(-1 < 0) exit(0); // Can you tell me the scenarios where this *won't* exit? < 1187056321 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :language? < 1187056322 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: except when it's for fun < 1187056323 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C < 1187056345 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: no, when it's for fun it's still a reason why people never finish things. < 1187056360 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) when the code is completely skipped by, example, another block around it < 1187056416 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll let you know if I can think of a #2) < 1187056438 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, fine. < 1187056460 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's: if(mem_offset < 0) ERROR("Went left of the array.\n"); < 1187056477 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my printfs tell me that mem_offset == -1. < 1187056487 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rafb.net/paste < 1187056499 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see what you got :D < 1187056506 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/bfi.c < 1187056522 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works too < 1187056567 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's your error? < 1187056571 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not working bit? < 1187056575 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the "<" block. < 1187056666 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd look at it if the mime type was set correctly! :) < 1187056681 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(firefox doesn't want to display it) < 1187056687 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :type error < 1187056696 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mem_offset is an unsigned value < 1187056700 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1187056700 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it? < 1187056704 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duh. < 1187056715 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's reason #2, I guess < 1187056718 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels stupid. < 1187056745 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't feel too stupid, that one got me too for a few minutes. < 1187056757 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to see what the other bug is. < 1187056766 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other bug? < 1187056772 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program I was testing it on, in egobfi8, doesn't go left in the array. < 1187056778 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, doesn't go that far left. < 1187056809 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you go too far left, then effectively, you end up at 0xFFFFFFFF I think, assuming 32 bit < 1187056818 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(03:53:07) (pikhq) So it's: if(mem_offset < 0) ERROR("Went left of the array.\n"); < 1187056818 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(03:53:24) (pikhq) And my printfs tell me that mem_offset == -1. < 1187056829 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, i figured it out without seeing the code :) < 1187056847 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: Yeah, that's how I found out that that was even an issue. . . < 1187056860 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Believe it or not, realloc blows up on something insane like that. < 1187056864 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187056890 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok, you're supposed to be sleeping :P < 1187056970 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just go C++ and use a deque? < 1187056984 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can go left as much as you want < 1187056988 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1187056991 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed i am :\ < 1187057002 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you sure this isn't my dream? < 1187057005 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep chatting, eh, oklokok? :P < 1187057008 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done it before < 1187057014 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dream chats... < 1187057019 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did just own you all by seeing through that error like a glass window < 1187057021 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure this isn't your dream though < 1187057029 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a dream to me < 1187057032 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rarely own < 1187057042 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i often irc in my dreams < 1187057043 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1187057044 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re-read what you just said < 1187057052 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it still says the same thing < 1187057054 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're awake < 1187057064 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that trick doesn't work for me, i've tried it in my sleep < 1187057064 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one way to test if you're asleep < 1187057070 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, then pull your finger < 1187057077 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and believe it will stretch < 1187057082 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WILL it to stretch < 1187057095 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not stretching, huh? :P < 1187057098 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope :P < 1187057102 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're awake. < 1187057104 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so am I. < 1187057124 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. . . < 1187057129 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187057141 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, you can be asleep pikhq. But neither of us. < 1187057158 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat, are you interested in doing graphics for a platformer, by chance? < 1187057171 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that what's in memory does not at all match the actual file. < 1187057188 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get to 2053 in the "to_interp" string. . . < 1187057195 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Printf says that's a ]. < 1187057196 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1187057207 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My file says that it's a *completely* different character. < 1187057209 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: I'd be happy to help out with whatever you need < 1187057217 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what type of platformer are we talking? < 1187057226 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :explorer/adventure < 1187057234 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like fun < 1187057249 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a few ideas for it, but not the full thing yet < 1187057328 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you see anything else that's wrong in my bfi.c < 1187057328 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1187057340 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preferably before I stab gcc. < 1187057436 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing comes to mind < 1187057442 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't mean it's right though :P < 1187057465 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, it's 100% *guaranteed* to be wrong. ;) < 1187057521 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you've got me wanting to write a BF interpreter < 1187057525 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT < 1187057537 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall not give in just yet < 1187057544 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will wait till I finish my new parser < 1187057547 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and do that as a test < 1187060173 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-085-016-239-044.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1187060798 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1187062477 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1187065608 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night, everyone < 1187065624 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1187065680 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=Rodger@wads-5-232-125.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1187065716 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1187065739 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheZZzz < 1187066353 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`night < 1187066957 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1187072536 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf is easy < 1187072567 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trivial, even. < 1187072577 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in conclusion, I hate C) < 1187072582 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love C < 1187072608 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf +++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>+.[>+>+<<-]>>---------.>++++++++[>++++<-]>.<<---.<.++++++.---.+.--------------. < 1187072609 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1187072620 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When a language makes you wonder "Why the hell is my *Brainfuck* interpreter not working", I tend to hate it. < 1187072641 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to write a bf in bf < 1187072655 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck with that < 1187072682 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a C compiler in BF! < 1187072690 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pointless < 1187072709 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and then... run it with C? < 1187072712 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meta! < 1187072716 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs away < 1187072749 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :movie time < 1187072796 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate the fucking dead pixel on my monitor :( < 1187072829 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1187072846 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's red :( < 1187073064 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stab it < 1187073168 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1187073192 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. < 1187073192 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World! < 1187073233 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1187073245 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf ,[.,]<<>> bf ,[.,] <<>> bf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. < 1187073306 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 < 1187073418 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you write a BF program to convert a byte to a printable representation? < 1187073548 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take a look at my atoi macro. < 1187074325 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_BASIC < 1187074722 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit < 1187074728 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using google as a spell checker < 1187074798 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it suggests "indiscriminant" instead of "indiscriminate"? < 1187074799 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf! < 1187074813 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indiscriminant isn't a word O.o < 1187074815 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? < 1187074824 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, discriminant is < 1187074851 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it clearly _could_ be a word < 1187074873 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Webster gives me nothing < 1187074914 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and discriminant only seems to be a word if you're talking about math < 1187074922 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I can't find any other uses) < 1187074931 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, that's where i know it from < 1187074935 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=saru@222-154-153-179.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1187074959 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives up < 1187074984 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google gives 82000 hits for indiscriminant vs. 4160000 for indiscriminate < 1187075054 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codu.org/blog/?comment=20070814014954 [now with photo evidence] < 1187075077 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indiscriminant is a < 1187075078 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspelling < 1187075084 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for the break. < 1187075104 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My enter key finger got anxious, I guess... < 1187075149 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chances are obviously 1 in a million, which means it will happen 9 times out of 10 < 1187075214 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello GregorR < 1187075302 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :P < 1187075322 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which hat are you wearing today? < 1187075327 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tricorn. < 1187075331 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As recorded on choosemyhat.com ;P < 1187075336 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the green one? < 1187075347 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm already there < 1187075355 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wasn't sure what time zone you were in < 1187075364 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, tomorrow :P < 1187075365 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my memory slips < 1187075380 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, unless it changes by 1AM when the votes are locked in, the Tyrolean. < 1187075383 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is the green one) < 1187075388 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1187075393 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, please vote :P < 1187075411 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vote red hat < 1187075417 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know the name < 1187075421 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have two red hats :P < 1187075441 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fedora, I think < 1187075446 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually meant "please vote for those days that have no votes" :P < 1187075447 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :judging by the image name < 1187075451 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1187075452 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohyeah, the Red Fedora < 1187075486 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has voted GreenFez for wednesday < 1187075572 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vote Grey Fedora for monday the 20th! < 1187075574 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187075648 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you do if there's a tie? < 1187075745 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See the FAQ < 1187075816 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah :P < 1187075834 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I didn't make a good vote then < 1187075846 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sees note on red fedora* < 1187076289 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1187076302 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye bye SCO < 1187076302 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070813-investors-bailing-on-sco-stock-scox-plummets.html < 1187077741 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> bf ,[.,] <<< Hello, World! < 1187077742 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World! < 1187077747 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you need the spaces < 1187077759 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that'd be even more dangerous if not. < 1187077786 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heading off for a little while < 1187078399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1187078400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1187078927 0 :Figs_!n=Figs@ip72-220-174-159.sd.sd.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1187078934 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1187079331 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :headed off for 7 seconds there, huh? < 1187079349 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good you warned, i might've gotten worried ;) < 1187079380 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, he joined first, then left < 1187079393 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for whatever reason < 1187079402 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i know that! < 1187079409 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...your mother! < 1187079431 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(10:15:47) (+Tietovisa) Pelaajalla oklopol on nyt 6444 pistettä ja hän on sijalla 9th/1009, edellään Juk_Juk pisteillä 7064. < 1187079439 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, perfect time to go to school -> < 1187081416 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1187081460 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: zomg typo < 1187081471 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codu.org/eso/2l/README < 1187081490 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"way to long figuring that out." < 1187086759 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.18.81.72 JOIN :#esoteric < 1187089261 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"night all" < 1187090014 0 :Figs_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1187090278 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1187091934 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn people who don't register their nicks < 1187092730 0 :Ciaran_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1187092768 0 :Ciaran_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to say that I haven't registered mine, then I realised I'm on FreeNode, so I actually have. (for some reason I initially thought this was another IRC network) < 1187093560 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poiuy_qwert isn't registered < 1187093562 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can't send a memo < 1187093588 0 :Ciaran_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who owns clog? I tried to register for ircbrowse yesterday but I haven't had an email yet. < 1187093640 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1187093667 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i'm sure their email pipes are just, you know ... < 1187093676 0 :Ciaran_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tubes. Not pipes. < 1187093676 0 :Ciaran_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1187093978 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1187096650 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1187097096 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1187100319 0 :ehird`!n=test@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1187101620 0 :RodgerTheZZzz!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheGreat < 1187102910 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-085-016-234-120.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1187103126 0 :ihope_!n=ns@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1187105582 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: & < 1187105598 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :& < 1187106045 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1187106114 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1187106495 0 :Tritonio!n=Tritonio@150.140.226.12 JOIN :#esoteric < 1187106606 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-91-145.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1187107513 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've semi-completed a little scripting language I began yesterday < 1187107530 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme pastebin a fibonacci sequence program I wrote for it... < 1187107556 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nonlogic.org/dump/text/1187103562.html < 1187107562 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you guys think? < 1187107898 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks < 1187107907 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you perhaps base it on forth :p < 1187108167 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, somewhat < 1187108203 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have absolutely no idea how that works < 1187108259 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pff, wimpmode Glass. < 1187108288 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does glass have inheritance? < 1187108291 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember < 1187108488 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: what does pushdown do? < 1187108513 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it pushes the value on the top of the stack to the bottom of the stack < 1187108689 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to pull it back to the top? < 1187108822 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably popup < 1187108823 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or pushup < 1187108853 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1187108862 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that sounds useful < 1187108888 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And to push it down only a certain number of spots? < 1187108918 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: how is 4d pong going < 1187109074 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: erm... still working on that one, too... < 1187110207 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1187110393 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2? < 1187112181 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1187112472 0 :Svenstaro!n=sh@c181181.adsl.hansenet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1187112476 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ello. < 1187113576 0 :cherez!n=cherez@r01snw275.desktop.umr.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1187116097 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1187116983 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anybody know a working neural net library? < 1187119025 0 :Sukoshi`!n=Sukoshi@user-11fa5rp.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1187119991 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1187122850 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1187124622 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1187124675 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, it sure is ages since i've been on this imac < 1187124680 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot how... silent... it is < 1187124686 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. heh heh. < 1187124688 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. < 1187124708 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly.. i wonder where my personal 24/7 helicopter launch went.. < 1187124738 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and who laminated all this screen text.. < 1187124987 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've yet to understand back propagation neural networks < 1187124999 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've yet to understand THE ESSENCE OF COOKIES < 1187125001 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err. yes < 1187125072 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've yet to understand why this neural net library JUST DOESNT FRICKING WORK :( < 1187125076 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, what's this? A C COMPILER THAT ACTUALLY WORKS? < 1187125081 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing. < 1187125164 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, what's this? my actual full music library? amazing. < 1187125170 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did i use the pc :/ < 1187125339 0 :Svenstaro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1187125379 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: I would recommend using an auxiliary stack rather than moving things to the bottom of the stack < 1187125414 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not horribly expensive if I keep track of start and end sentinels on my stack < 1187125422 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a linked-list, so... < 1187125619 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek, wibble < 1187125630 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks that could be a little slow < 1187126506 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is no silver bullet, but there are plenty of blancmange ones." < 1187126508 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1187126555 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a PLATINUM BULLET! < 1187126567 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just requires solving the halting problem.. < 1187126581 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just because a good language choice will not make a problem magically easier doesn't mean that a bad language choice can't make it magically harder.) < 1187126630 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwimlang makes problems easier. < 1187126643 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1187126652 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it handle requirements gathering < 1187126661 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want it to. < 1187126676 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does what you mean. < 1187126678 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is dwimlang < 1187126686 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DWIM-lang :P < 1187126696 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes what is it < 1187126707 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do-What-I-Mean-language < 1187126716 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With code such as "Do my laundry" and "Tell me if this program halts" < 1187126739 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's like superturing instant IRP < 1187126770 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but more so < 1187126795 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't even have to be capable of fully articulating the problem. < 1187126807 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1187126807 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's capable of inferring and Doing What You Mean. < 1187126810 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this work < 1187126816 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1187126819 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"run the best program ever" < 1187126825 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Absolutely. < 1187126829 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWESOME < 1187126831 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"make world peace" < 1187126836 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1187126842 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"make... me a sandwhich" < 1187126844 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :find the purpose of the unives < 1187126851 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1187126857 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 47> < 1187126858 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1187126864 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that is a the Answer to the Question < 1187126867 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember exactly. < 1187126868 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want the purpose < 1187126873 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right... < 1187126874 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-0 < 1187126893 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember, the question is probably "what is six times seven?" < 1187126926 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1187126935 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1187126937 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :six times nine < 1187126938 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1187126965 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0/0 < 1187126975 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1/OVER NINE THOUSAND < 1187126977 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. that was lame < 1187127988 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: If you think that 6*9 is the right Question then you didn't read the book properly. < 1187128029 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ford specifically speculates that the arrival of the Golgafrinchams has slightly upset the Earth Program. < 1187128046 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, now for a better question: < 1187128061 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i skip the first two days of classes at university so i can go to mexico? < 1187128070 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did the readout of the final result occur? < 1187128110 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is strongly hinted that the Answer was emmitted in a certain way, soon after the Earth was replaced. < 1187128136 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any guesses? < 1187128286 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAICT, it was Fenchurch. < 1187128325 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She mentions to Arthur a sudden revelation while sitting in a café. < 1187128334 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1187128342 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fenchurch was the one who "got" the answer < 1187128346 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the prologue. < 1187128360 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and she mentions it to Arthur < 1187128364 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1187128367 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the upsetting the earth program stuff doesn't hold... Arthur isn't part of Earth... < 1187128375 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, yes he is < 1187128378 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just about < 1187128390 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No... He's a descendant of the aliens who crashed there < 1187128393 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget the name < 1187128410 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Golgafrinchans < 1187128425 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just trips off the tounge < 1187128428 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. Keyboard. < 1187128430 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that only caused the program to produce slightly the wrong answer < 1187128443 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the rest of the Earth was as it is supposed to be < 1187128465 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, Arthur is from a time a few minutes before the Answer was due to b produced < 1187128480 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, Question < 1187128483 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, author could not have the question in his brain. < 1187128489 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only the organic parts of Earth have it. < 1187128495 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, only the organic parts recieve the computation < 1187128497 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1187128502 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1187128502 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's none left that are sentient; obviously < 1187128512 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The golablahs killed them off by cutting down forests < 1187128529 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... well; maybe I'm interpreting the book differently than you < 1187128573 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed that the Earth as a whole is doing the computing, and living is the method by which many of the parts communicate < 1187128619 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that the whole "and living organisms form part of the computation process" bit meant that Earth spawned living organisms which were part of it < 1187128622 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you replace one part (ape-descendants) with another one almost the same (Golgafrinchams), you still get roughly the right answer < 1187128628 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not "oh we just send a radio signal to anyone in range" < 1187128654 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes < 1187128664 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"living is the method by which many of the parts communicate" < 1187128677 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense? < 1187128682 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't how i read it personally < 1187128684 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ok < 1187128713 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bastard upped and died so we can't ask him < 1187128746 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah; fuck that < 1187128763 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You want to know answers? Haha! Try that... when I'm DEAD!@ < 1187128765 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what use is that, really < 1187128813 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last one is even better. That fecking bird drives the whole plot forward by following an instruction he isn't given until the end of the book. < 1187128823 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And we don;t even see him being given it! < 1187128830 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I honestly can't remember the last book. < 1187128849 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only remember the ending < 1187128871 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably, Jeltz said near the end, "Destroy the Earth, and make sure it stays destroyed." < 1187128904 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually the last book made little sense to me < 1187128917 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understood about 50% of it < 1187128918 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes a couple of readings < 1187128927 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest of the books were fine < 1187128941 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the last was like 10 2001spaceoddysseys < 1187128952 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is the problem with the Bird. It responds to things before we find out what they are. And it does so in very subtle ways. < 1187128987 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry, it is ages since i read the series for the last time < 1187128989 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the bird. < 1187129015 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything it does is designed to get all the relevent people onto the Earth(s) and make sure that every Earth gets destroyed somehow. < 1187129026 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, the Guide mark II < 1187129036 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1187129067 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one we see is destroyed by the race of aliens who forgot who they were < 1187129099 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite possibly the asteroid strike that caused that was engineered by the Bird, because... < 1187129137 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what? < 1187129147 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll continue understanding the previous books < 1187129151 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of this makes much sense :p < 1187129151 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only did it cuase them to get lost and become motivated to blow up the Earth, but their absense from a certain war is what causes Trillian to go off an report on that war. (IIRC) < 1187129210 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trillian mentions the missing ship when she is arguing with Random < 1187129985 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :_D6Gregor1RFeZi < 1187130117 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO HOT < 1187130588 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1187130825 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm going to make an evaporative cooler < 1187131011 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.register_raw(r"^:(\S+)!\S+ PRIVMSG #esoteric :(.*)", lambda x, y: bot.raw("PRIVMSG #esoteric :%s says %s" % (y.group(1), y.group(2)))) < 1187131020 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, bored < 1187131021 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood says also, bored < 1187131347 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1187131347 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament says ... < 1187131508 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaa < 1187131509 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird` says aaa < 1187131523 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmnt_bot says ehird` says aaa < 1187131524 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird` says bsmnt_bot says ehird` says aaa < 1187131530 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmnt_bot says ehird` says bsmnt_bot says ehird` says aaa < 1187131530 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird` says bsmnt_bot says ehird` says bsmnt_bot says ehird` says aaa < 1187131586 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec bot.raw("PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will stop flooding.") < 1187131587 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament says ~exec bot.raw("PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will stop flooding.") < 1187131587 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will stop flooding. < 1187131643 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec bot._raw, bot.raw = bot.raw, (lambda x:0) < 1187131644 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament says ~exec bot._raw, bot.raw = bot.raw, (lambda x:0) < 1187131672 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that will do anything < 1187131680 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1187131687 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it did < 1187131697 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so quiet all of a sudden :) < 1187131718 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good think you didn't have it return 1 < 1187131806 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.raw = lambda x: 1 < 1187131811 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of this < 1187131819 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, this is truly tragic < 1187131821 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1187131830 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.raw = lambda x: True < 1187131832 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1187131834 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gar < 1187131859 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tragic < 1187131916 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :garlic. < 1187131949 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec print >>sys.stdout, "HELLO WORLD" < 1187131959 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1187131960 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1187131965 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't stdout $channel? < 1187131977 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it uses self.raw < 1187131981 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1187131990 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.raw = lambda x: self.raw(x) < 1187131992 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1187131999 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good plan < 1187132004 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1187132012 0 :bsmnt_bot!i=gavin@abacus.kwzs.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1187132022 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will python allow that? < 1187132025 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1187132029 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :allow what? < 1187132045 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :self.raw = lamba x: self.raw(x) < 1187132051 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1187132053 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it will raise an exception, right? < 1187132053 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, why not? < 1187132054 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python can recurse :p < 1187132060 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1187132060 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1187132067 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will eventually crap and run out of stack space < 1187132071 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it will. < 1187132082 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you use stackless python < 1187132084 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python can recurse but it will raise a RecursionError (?) < 1187132091 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get a RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded < 1187132093 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maximmum recursion depth exceeded < 1187132094 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or have a weird tail-call optimization-implementing interp < 1187132097 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after 1000 recursions < 1187132100 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000? < 1187132102 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think more < 1187132116 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a parameter in sys < 1187132148 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, sys.getrecursionlimit() < 1187132148 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tail-call optimization isn't at all weird; the python compiler is just really stupid < 1187132156 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sys.setrecursionlimit < 1187132158 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird for a python interp < 1187132166 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/compiler < 1187132166 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.raw = self._raw < 1187132167 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AttributeError: IRCbot instance has no attribute '_raw' < 1187132168 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it weird? < 1187132183 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because no python interp does it < 1187132184 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(sys.getrecursionlimit()) < 1187132185 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1000 < 1187132191 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.setrecursionlimit(0) < 1187132192 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ValueError: recursion limit must be positive < 1187132198 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.setrecursionlimit(0.1) < 1187132198 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ValueError: recursion limit must be positive < 1187132201 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.setrecursionlimit(1) < 1187132205 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.1 hahaha < 1187132205 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1187132207 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwahahahahahahahaha! < 1187132207 0 :bsmnt_bot!i=gavin@abacus.kwzs.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1187132229 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sp3tt: yeah, it dies just beginning recursion < 1187132234 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursion limit of 1 is broken on lambda: f(x) < 1187132238 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fractional iteration =) < 1187132249 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fractional calculus ftw < 1187132251 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: you can't call ANYTHING from anything else? < 1187132252 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1187132256 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWESOME < 1187132258 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it died < 1187132264 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a programming language like that < 1187132272 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll call it "even more retarded than BASIC" < 1187132276 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you... already have it? < 1187132282 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...well.true < 1187132364 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of languages don't have procedures < 1187132369 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck, befunge < 1187132372 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1187132374 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has procedures < 1187132380 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't call a procedure inside a procedures < 1187132395 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so procedures basically execute in a retarded version of the code < 1187132425 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you set the recursion too high you get a segfault < 1187132432 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.setrecursionlimit(10000000) < 1187132435 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: some extensions to brainfuck are like that < 1187132444 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec (lambda x: x(x))(lambda x: x(x)) < 1187132445 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: also, C macros < 1187132445 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1187132447 0 :bsmnt_bot!i=gavin@abacus.kwzs.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1187132453 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.setrecursionlimit(i) < 1187132453 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NameError: name 'i' is not defined < 1187132459 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you get i in python < 1187132464 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault < 1187132472 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it has to be an integer < 1187132474 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: don't be stupid, it wants an integer < 1187132476 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah whatever < 1187132477 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1187132481 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still want to pass it i < 1187132495 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll just get another ValueError < 1187132517 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(0, 1j) is i < 1187132526 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec (0, 1j) < 1187132534 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.raw((0, 1j)) < 1187132535 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TypeError: can only concatenate tuple (not "str") to tuple < 1187132542 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.raw(str((0, 1j))) < 1187132544 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :paprika < 1187132545 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1187132546 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :three )s! < 1187132550 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmnt_bot: 1j is i < 1187132558 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmnt_bot doesn't care < 1187132561 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec 1j < 1187132561 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :paprika < 1187132566 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec 1j < 1187132566 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean bsmntbombdood: 1j is i < 1187132579 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :paprika < 1187132579 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh import cmath; 1jj < 1187132581 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: seriously, why don't you do all this in a python interpreter < 1187132595 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: not as fun as killing stuff in a bot < 1187132604 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not killing anything, you're just flooding < 1187132611 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flooding? no i'm not < 1187132638 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're trying to guess the syntax of python stuff as opposed to looking it up < 1187132686 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'm just playing with the bot < 1187132686 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1187132984 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1187132985 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1187133145 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmnt_bot is tired < 1187133153 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should rewrite him in scheme < 1187133168 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about javascript < 1187133173 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like javascript; it's a good language < 1187133177 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about no fucking way < 1187133183 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just overshadowed by the evil browser implementations :( < 1187133189 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, it has first class functions. < 1187133192 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a decent object system. < 1187133307 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rewrite bsmnt_bot in smetana < 1187133318 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :smetana? < 1187133319 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good choice because there's no output < 1187133331 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a bad choice for a primarily IO based bot < 1187133336 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like something that grows if you don't take enough showers < 1187133343 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: esolang < 1187133365 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: it will minimize the flooding :) < 1187133408 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1187133521 0 :_D6Gregor1RFeZi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!glass {M[m(_o)O!"EgoBot iz bettar!"(_o).?]} < 1187133539 0 :_D6Gregor1RFeZi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, there goes that theory X-D < 1187133563 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blahbot is better than them all < 1187133565 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i have not the code on this imac... < 1187133567 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should rewrite < 1187133569 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, why are you a D function now? < 1187133570 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with my irc lib < 1187133575 0 :_D6Gregor1RFeZi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohwait, borkled code X_X < 1187133583 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LMAO < 1187133584 0 :_D6Gregor1RFeZi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!glass {M[m(_o)O!"EgoBot iz bettar!"(_o)o.?]} < 1187133587 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot iz bettar! < 1187133597 0 :_D6Gregor1RFeZi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Somebody on #d mangled me :( < 1187133603 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1187133604 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+" < 1187133605 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1187133728 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.registerraw(r"^:(\S+)!\S+ PRIVMSG #esoteric:(.*)", lambda x, y: bot.raw("PRIVMSG #esoteric :%s" % (y.group(2))) < 1187133729 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing < 1187133741 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, my evil won't hit everyone. < 1187133742 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1187133743 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1187133807 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, devnonsense code < 1187133835 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sets it up < 1187133867 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at_exit do < 1187133867 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : class Fake; def channel; "#devnonsense"; end; def content; "@save"; end; end < 1187133867 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : seed_nonsense(nil, Fake.new) < 1187133868 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :end < 1187133871 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that code is >so< a hack < 1187134161 0 :rbirc!n=rbirc@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1187134162 0 :rbirc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1187134309 0 :devnonsense!n=rbirc@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1187134352 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#devnonsense for his output < 1187134355 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's as deranged as ever. < 1187134401 0 :devnonsense!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1187134505 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wipes his memory; starts over < 1187134519 0 :devnonsense!n=rbirc@user-514f618c.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1187134537 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:34] devnonsense: it I I it I the it I < 1187134537 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:34] devnonsense: the it it I I I < 1187134538 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:34] devnonsense: the I oh it the oh < 1187134539 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great first words. < 1187134569 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"reuters drycleaning it off legal ridicule" < 1187134580 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1187134895 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what're you seeding it from? < 1187134907 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give the bot a whois < 1187134924 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1187134933 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he occasionally made >very< deep comments < 1187134939 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally comments disparaging to other people < 1187134943 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wikipedia seed is a *very* good source. < 1187134949 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is. < 1187134953 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's where it was born. < 1187134963 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was talking coherently every now and then in less than half an hour < 1187134973 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cute. < 1187134978 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Markov chains? < 1187134980 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1187134998 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like "random punctuation, or word?@ < 1187135002 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it chooses a random word < 1187135003 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeat < 1187135014 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's literally just picking words at random? < 1187135017 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bweheheheh. < 1187135023 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And occasionally adding punctuation. yeah < 1187135042 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the" < 1187135046 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite insightful. < 1187135049 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck, i pasted a few of its generated text lines in #wikipedia once < 1187135054 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody noticed it was a machine < 1187135059 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my internet connection is hopeless < 1187135059 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1187135060 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sucks < 1187135080 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got repeat hopeless system born recovery lines bsmntbombdood international washington to < 1187135083 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's more a result of average IRC english than your bot's quality. < 1187135088 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes like made < 1187135115 0 :_D6Gregor1RFeZi!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1187135129 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#wikipedia has better english than most places < 1187135132 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1187135156 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is do im half < 1187135174 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what is do im half\nmarkov" < 1187135189 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im half markov :p < 1187135197 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less like im incorrect please shoot theres < 1187135197 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:45] devnonsense: laughed experiementing im just punctuation with < 1187135200 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suprisingly lucid < 1187135202 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1187135203 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it actually achieving sentience? < 1187135207 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1187135213 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"experiementing im just punctuation with" < 1187135218 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: #devnonsense < 1187135227 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc from various channels, regurgiatated randomly < 1187135237 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :markov!!!!!!!1 < 1187135242 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Markov. < 1187135255 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not deep coherently not gentoo bots < 1187135256 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1187135256 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I think it's wanting to be Markov now. < 1187135262 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is he more coherent than gentoo bots?! < 1187135267 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yey thatll repeat" < 1187135275 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@sucks with recovery although cute" < 1187135299 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bots playing tue" < 1187135304 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"youre pikhq shrugging want ok there hour heck" < 1187135305 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet, at the same time, it's spewing out some nonsense. < 1187135313 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tomaw repeat regurgiatated generated" < 1187135323 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg, he called markov hopeless < 1187135376 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"again password required what $54 chanserv < 1187135381 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's moving on to *better* AI systems! < 1187135387 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :His demands don't stop!!! < 1187135391 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit. < 1187135396 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm... < 1187135409 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eventually he's going to want to run on Deep Blue. < 1187135415 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: Open the pod bay doors, HAL. < 1187135415 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:49] devnonsense: u average going you need my an < 1187135446 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :devnonsense: off < 1187135446 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:49] devnonsense: open again now < 1187135451 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, HAL. :p < 1187135481 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"once markov one id 2 like average word" < 1187135608 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"its moving access stupid experiments actually j4cbo speaker219" < 1187135611 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he knows he is a stupid experiemtn < 1187135664 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA_effect < 1187135739 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well duh < 1187135757 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have please password ehird aesclepius recovery it < 1187135772 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Realise that I anthropomorphise *every* program, not just AIs. ;) < 1187135798 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what "Programming languages are usually designed to prevent unintended ELIZA effects by restricting keywords and carefully avoiding potential misinterpretations" means < 1187135799 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ancient garbled sweet mercy octopus soup < 1187135840 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably means most PLs don't try to be too close to English syntax < 1187135873 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: oh come on tar, don't be like this, you always put me in sticky situations < 1187135884 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that might cause people to think it actually understands what they say < 1187135891 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for went hi carefully nonsense all someone hostname bots around xchat comments effects < 1187135964 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall (from Lambda the Ultimate?) that some attempted exceptions (Applescript?) lead to problems in this way < 1187135982 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :applescript is god-awful