< 1182211224 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, do you mean stupid or really dumb? < 1182211238 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference < 1182211310 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really dumb people don't know they are stupid, and nothing you do can make them understand it < 1182211326 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my theory anyway < 1182211343 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just stupid people know they are stupid? < 1182211476 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, people who know they're stupid are smart. < 1182211499 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can still know you're stupid and be stupid < 1182211521 0 :erider!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1182213627 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't seem to get fedex to send me boxes < 1182213699 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they want some sort of account number < 1182213855 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blargh they need a credit card < 1182215627 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl everyone < 1182215634 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1182220042 0 :ihope__!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1182220047 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1182220070 0 :EagleBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1182220111 0 :EagleBot!n=EagleBot@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1182221091 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1182221908 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1182223728 0 :guisf!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1182226028 0 :Bigcheese!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1182227062 0 :pikhq_!n=pikhq@208-180-8-45-static-hsb.provalue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1182227063 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1182227081 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq < 1182227292 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we need to get rid of the sun < 1182227512 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we need to get rid of the Big Blue Room. < 1182227516 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just 100% broken. < 1182227531 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the air conditioning is shot, so's the heater, and the roof leaks. < 1182227541 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1182227584 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely < 1182227626 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the lighting's fucked up, and the decerator ought to be shot. . . < 1182227643 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole "stars" theme is just too. . . Spacey. < 1182227658 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1182227678 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i like the "stars" theme. Especially the moving parts. < 1182227694 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a decerator? < 1182227717 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1182227727 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A word that I don't know how to spell, for some odd reason. < 1182227742 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION kicks himself; I spell perfectly, usually, and it's my own bloody language.
< 1182227803 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a decerator would be someone who removes horns, i guess < 1182227820 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of rhinoceroses, perhaps < 1182227836 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nasty business. < 1182227848 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why he ought to be shot. :p < 1182227879 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway _our_ lighting is working perfectly, though i guess it'll break down around autumn as usual. < 1182227978 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ours seems to turn off every 12 hours. < 1182227983 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or so) < 1182228057 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bloody Norwegian) < 1182228200 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1182228244 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of curiosity, are you north of the Arctic Circle? < 1182228248 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1182228252 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1182228262 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, then, it *should* break down at least once a day there. < 1182228263 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1182228289 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the sun goes into hiding, but it doesn't turn _that_ dark < 1182228388 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when it's not cloudy (although it usually is) < 1182228612 0 :c|p`!n=wil@c-68-36-94-174.hsd1.nj.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1182228676 0 :c|p!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1182228703 0 :c|p`!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :c|p < 1182228868 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Odd. < 1182228887 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lighting here is always on the blink. . . < 1182228901 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although we do get this nice little emergency light. . . < 1182228917 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which seems to shut off once a month, and is useless when the humidity goes up. < 1182228920 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1182229666 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1182229691 0 :EagleBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1182230738 0 :c|p!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1182230963 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any real-time 4d games? < 1182230978 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how do you calculate spins in ping pong for example? < 1182230989 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dagobah.biz/flash/CurveBall.swf -> 4d < 1182230993 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1182231052 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sound & color for 4th dimension < 1182231096 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to know when exactly you ought to have the ball inside you if there's just color < 1182231111 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sound allows for a great way to do that < 1182231123 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of the bee-effect < 1182231146 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like hZ440+hZ443 = chaos < 1182231242 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea how a spin works physically... i actually learned a ball can _really_ change it's curve when i first played ping pong with a friend a bit over a year ago < 1182231275 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before that i though it was a perception error or smth :) < 1182231354 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had to make a class in java for storing pictures in a test i had yesterday < 1182231391 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my only comment was /** Reimplementing ArrayList using ArrayList */ < 1182231397 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except perhaps in finnish < 1182231408 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't remember < 1182231444 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LMAO < 1182231458 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also wrote that. < 1182231464 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, but i should'be < 1182231465 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ve < 1182231520 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coffees -> < 1182231713 0 :boily!n=boily@bas2-quebec14-1088703754.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1182231736 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i gave her a golden shower < 1182231834 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1182231942 0 :boily!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just joined and first thing i see: `ant then i gave her a golden shower' < 1182231949 0 :boily!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :disgusting < 1182231999 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, you're good at this game < 1182232030 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just admit it, you were reading the logs and waiting for the perfect moment < 1182232036 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i guess i'm supposed to say something that might *not* be perverted in another context < 1182232050 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1182232051 0 :boily!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry oerjan, i did not read the logs, truly < 1182232062 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure there's a context for everything. < 1182232067 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually you couldn't have < 1182232074 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clogz < 1182232083 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that was the first disgusting thing oklopol said < 1182232098 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually i'm pretty clean < 1182232104 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: spins? :) < 1182232118 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spins are disgusting? < 1182232132 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=ieatyou@222-154-140-175.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1182232156 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but in a good way < 1182232164 0 :boily!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a little bit confused concerning what you are discussing < 1182232167 0 :boily!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spins? < 1182232171 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1182232181 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : are there any real-time 4d games? < 1182232182 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : and how do you calculate spins in ping pong for example? < 1182232182 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://dagobah.biz/flash/CurveBall.swf -> 4d < 1182232188 0 :boily!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1oh < 1182232192 0 :boily!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*oh < 1182232210 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were not discussing this < 1182232219 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we should be discussing it < 1182232293 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... guess i'll schmoogle or something < 1182232333 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah indeed < 1182232339 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid angular momentums < 1182232377 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't find anything about spins since spins have so many other physical schwimpies < 1182232442 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do i always run out of coffee < 1182232493 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the little gnomes are stealing it < 1182232493 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need two joysticks, one just isn't enough < 1182232510 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could just have two mice and use them, but i'm not sure that'd feel right < 1182232516 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you always have just one mouse < 1182232522 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_always_ < 1182232547 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have three, if they are blind < 1182232566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, 2 joysticks/mice allow 5 dimensions for ping pong < 1182232583 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you don't need one of the ... axes < 1182232596 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :axizors < 1182232699 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not sure if i want to do 5d before my first 3d game :) < 1182233111 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1182233118 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#physics saved my life < 1182233194 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, if not for gravity we might all be floating dead in space now... < 1182233270 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, exactly what i meant! < 1182233284 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, also, the channel < 1182234184 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1182234329 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1182236508 0 :boily!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night too" < 1182239999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1182240000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1182247897 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-76-27-232-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1182250264 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :[[Nobody_cares]] < 1182250303 0 :[[Nobody_cares]]!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :N0body < 1182252653 0 :N0body!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna sleep now, gnight everyone < 1182252703 0 :N0body!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"sheep don'" < 1182260901 0 :ihope__!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1182260905 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1182261999 0 :jix_!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-033-057.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1182262048 0 :EagleBot!n=EagleBot@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1182262708 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act" < 1182262724 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's make an esolang based on acronyms nobody would have guessed. < 1182262752 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured "USA" would have stood for "United States of America", not "Uniting and Strengthening America". < 1182267398 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-085-016-236-040.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1182267749 0 :c|p!n=wil@unaffiliated/cp/x-000001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1182267800 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1182267882 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1182268061 0 :ville_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1182269989 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1182270136 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stares at his description of the billiard ball model
< 1182270158 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION scraps it and loads MCell to play with it
< 1182270339 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you made a new CA? < 1182270914 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you say that ALPACA is an example of a useful esolang? < 1182271114 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Very much so. < 1182271137 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not *highly* useful, but it *is* useful for certain purposes. < 1182271154 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(specifically, emulating cellular automata) < 1182271169 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it is, as you might imagine, trivial to prove Turing complete. < 1182271190 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can simulate Life. Life is Turing complete. QED. < 1182271396 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although a CA more directly based on a TM would be easier than Life to understand the proof for. < 1182271440 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-66-73.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1182271440 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not truie. < 1182271452 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand one of the proofs by simulation. < 1182271465 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. . . "Understand". < 1182271581 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i have this little "ALPA" idea: what would a language look like for which ALPACA was simply a library extension for CAs? < 1182271583 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn my internet connection is slow today < 1182271611 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1182271624 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesa. < 1182271715 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like most expressions in ALPACA are chains of method calls, simply concatenated. < 1182271764 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so let a b be an abbrevation for the function \x -> x a b < 1182271800 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Haskell notation) < 1182271994 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an object, when used as a function, simply applies its first argument back on the object itself. < 1182272080 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you never (at least in the subset ALPACA uses) give the object in a chain explicitly. < 1182272119 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are also operators like and/or. < 1182272219 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and top-level declarations can take arguments that are either single expressions, or comma-separated lists. The ALPACA-specific declarations could probably be macros. < 1182272272 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when the argument is a single expression it needs parentheses if it is more than one token) < 1182272337 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's about it so far. < 1182272362 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-101-61.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1182273499 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1182273642 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw, what is it with people using C-like syntax for unrelated languages? < 1182273648 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bug("1", "Hello, World!"); < 1182273649 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scuttle("1"); < 1182273653 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugly! < 1182273869 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not so specifically C - i think that goes back to Algol. < 1182273897 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, doesn't matter < 1182273928 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would make sense if Bug and Scuttle were functions < 1182273957 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they really aren't < 1182273978 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the things in quotation marks aren't really strings either < 1182274009 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's just parroting the syntax without understanding the reasons behind it < 1182274045 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there is nothing wrong with doing a syntax that _looks_ vanilla but is actually deeply disturbed. < 1182274065 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1182274068 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly < 1182274081 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not the case here, either < 1182274153 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only motivation for the syntax i can think of is making the code seem confusingly C-like < 1182274173 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then everything would at least be in lowercase :) < 1182274233 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i think in this case it's just somebody without much a clue creating a language < 1182274244 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the spec: "Semicolons must be used instead of newlines to terminate commands. Therefore, strings cannot contain semicolons." < 1182274273 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it reminds me much more of Pascal. < 1182274310 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then the Algol syntax was as much default previously as C is now. < 1182274335 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, _that_ is deeply disturbed. < 1182274361 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, in another context it would be a clever joke :) < 1182274362 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the poor guy's never heard of lexical analysis. < 1182274468 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably doesn't know how to make a proper recursive parser. < 1182274524 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that we want to chase away beginners, of course. < 1182274589 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and kill them? < 1182274629 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, we don't? < 1182274650 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed not. well, only if there is a food shortage. < 1182274668 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be arranged! < 1182274971 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can eat me first < 1182275031 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least he does have a php interpreter for both his languages < 1182275192 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hypertext Preproccessor? < 1182275237 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1182275250 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same. < 1182275336 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION declares bsmntbombdood the official #esoteric emergency ration.
< 1182275508 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if i should go to this girl's birthday party < 1182275528 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will i still have all of my body parts on the 24th? < 1182275562 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you need all of your body parts to go to a birthday party? < 1182275620 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't be much of a party without all of them < 1182275704 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just leave most of them at home and show up as a head in a jar. < 1182275728 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may severly limit my mobility < 1182275799 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, it would be a great conversation starter < 1182275837 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(speaking of which, wouldn't it be great to show up as a head in a jar to a high school reunion. Some grew up to be doctors, some grew up to be lawyers, I grew up to be a head in a jar) < 1182275843 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION plays the new Gerrymandering game.
< 1182275890 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does RSVP mean you have to call if you go or call if you can't go? < 1182275912 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1182275913 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means you have to reply. < 1182275927 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Répondez s'il vous plait" IIRC < 1182275934 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please respond" < 1182276160 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly people, giving me all these crazy responsibilities < 1182276172 0 :crathman!n=chatzill@69.15.198.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1182276172 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like replying to invitations? < 1182276176 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's horrible. < 1182276180 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't reply < 1182276184 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't come < 1182276191 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll get the point and never invite you again! < 1182276228 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1182276249 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :always with the great ideas < 1182276256 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be my social coach < 1182276472 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1182276484 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what exactly is the "Usability Unknown" category < 1182276520 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means we don't know how powerful they are < 1182276532 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's Power Unknown. < 1182276565 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original rationale behind "usability" was that some non-TC languages seem to be more "useful for computation" than others < 1182276646 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1182276666 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, i marked HEX as a finite-state automaton; do i remove the usability unknown category? < 1182276671 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn that is one heavily gerymandered district < 1182276676 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems about as useful as Smetana < 1182276691 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(all memory locations need to be explicitly created) < 1182276720 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finite cell size? < 1182276729 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good point < 1182276761 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, good point, he doesn't specify < 1182276875 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reference implementation has finite cell size < 1182277003 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't they always. you have to abstract away a _little_ from implementation. < 1182277021 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's 2002, and programming languages have almost caught up with 1958" < 1182277022 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, they don't always :) < 1182277065 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a rhetorical question. < 1182277097 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the oddest part is that in the version 1 of the specification the syntax was basic-like < 1182277124 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BREED "foo" "bar" "*" < 1182277146 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then he changed that to Breed("foo", "*", "bar"); < 1182277211 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he even changed the comment marker from ; to # < 1182279604 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-65-164.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1182279649 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=Rodger@wads-5-232-125.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1182279722 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello. What's been happening in #Esoteric today? < 1182279750 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the black plague < 1182279762 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1182279773 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION covers his mouth with a handkerchief
< 1182280313 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brains... brains... < 1182280881 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1182281520 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.alterati.com/blog/?p=615#more-615 < 1182281769 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Supper" < 1182283821 0 :crathman!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]" < 1182286468 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1182287674 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ducks!" < 1182287768 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1182289280 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :The international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment - map: http://www.frappr.com/esolang - forum: http://esolangs.org/forum/ - EgoBot: !help - wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/ - logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ or http://meme.b9.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric - Pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/ - Here be cannibals. (Eat bsmntbombdood first.) < 1182289309 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION attempts to come up with a nice... picture/diagram thingy of the Feynman gate
< 1182289324 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1182289327 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1182290106 0 :c|p!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1182291214 0 :c|p!n=wil@unaffiliated/cp/x-000001 JOIN :#esoteric < 1182291642 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~raw join #lispcafe < 1182292419 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.raw("PRIVMSG #lispcafe :Like this?") < 1182293759 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.raw("JOIN #lispcafe") < 1182293773 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1182293776 0 :bsmnt_bot!i=gavin@abacus.kwzs.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1182293822 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.raw("JOIN #lispcafe") < 1182293871 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.register_raw(r"\S+ PRIVMSG (%s) :%sexec (.*)" % ("#lispcafe", self.COMMAND_CHAR), self.do_exec) < 1182296159 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION curses NFS
< 1182296281 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write your own < 1182296354 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NFS? < 1182296380 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something from scratch? < 1182296405 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or NTFS? < 1182296416 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "Not for Steve", which doesn't make sense? < 1182296431 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Not for Simon", which makes a tiny bit more sense? < 1182296562 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :National Fanatics Society < 1182296637 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :network filesystem < 1182296689 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: don't come here with your obvious lies. < 1182296727 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSWF? < 1182296729 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1182296731 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSFW? < 1182296851 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Networked Filesystem < 1182296868 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it thinks that certain files are in use when they aren't < 1182296892 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't move them either < 1182296920 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can move the folder they're in, and I can use the evil smiley to emty them, but I can't delete the actual files < 1182296959 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: can't you move the actual files? < 1182297008 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1182297054 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic. move every other file into another directory, then rename the directories. < 1182297066 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah did that < 1182297080 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how do I get rid of the actual file < 1182297112 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they're empty then they can just stay until reboot, can't they? < 1182297146 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hands SimonRC a broom and a carpet.
< 1182297166 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have rebooted many times < 1182297191 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they still can't be deleted < 1182297210 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if the file server has been rebooted though < 1182297244 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would imagine that would be more important. < 1182297317 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dear ITS, please reboot Hudson. Love Simon" < 1182297389 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking a < 1182297412 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brother discovered he could unplug the phone line in his room and disconnect my internets < 1182297414 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1182297423 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and? < 1182297434 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is disconnecting my internets < 1182297457 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this being a very little brother, i take? < 1182297472 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's 11 < 1182297524 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, i forget, have you moved or are you going to? < 1182297536 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to move < 1182297542 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my parents are dragging it out < 1182297568 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the problem should hopefully solve itself. < 1182297597 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should point out i am an only child, so my expertise is minimal.