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Some of the more interesting languages get really hairy and overly complex 19:57:49 I'm also a big fan of dupdog and /// for essentially that reason 19:58:49 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 19:59:23 neither of which, however, are at all likely to be TC. <:/ 20:17:53 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 20:32:13 -!- ihope__ has joined. 20:40:24 -!- oerjan has joined. 20:45:03 -!- jix__ has changed nick to jix. 20:46:24 what, you mean Beethoven's Fifth isn't just as well-known? 20:46:25 -!- c|p has joined. 20:47:15 -!- ihope has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 21:17:10 -!- ehird` has quit ("Pong timeout"). 21:22:15 " Why is LOLCODE so popular all of a sudden?" -- LOLCODE is popular because it hit Digg and Reddit on the same day. Whitespace (I know the creator of that) did hit the front page of Slashdot, but that was back in 2003, which is the early 19th centuary in Internet Years, and it didn't hook onto an existing craze. 21:23:02 i think whitespace might have been on /. more than once 21:24:11 it was first on AFD 2003 21:25:39 amazingly, LOLcode doesn;t seem to have been mentionned on slashdot! 21:28:40 o: 21:29:53 my eyes are singing 21:30:37 hmph, our bot was banned on #tietovisa (finnish trivia channel), apparently it owned too mcuh 21:33:54 "singing"? 21:34:56 okay, if you don't understand something i say, it's a joke, or it means absolutely nothing 21:35:09 this was the latter 21:35:12 i think 21:35:32 you know how you sometimes just feel like saying stuff 21:35:38 and wonder what the fuck you meant 21:35:39 hmph 21:35:48 are you smoking something? 21:35:58 no no, but i _am_ coding java 21:36:02 i guess that counts 21:36:04 ouch 21:36:33 i have to convert a file containing a hashmap to a file where the contents are in ascii form 21:37:00 pretty tough! 21:39:56 i think it's very clever this task requires about 4 object wraps, layers make me feel safe 21:40:33 "about 4"==3, but that didn't sound that much so i filibustered it up 21:41:45 well okay, 2, but its still needless! 21:43:20 interesting discussion at the haskell-cafe, apparently "Haskell" is from the hebrew for intellect. 21:44:26 i can just believe that :) 21:45:11 I thought "Haskell" was named after Haskell B. Curry/ 21:45:12 ? 21:45:21 sure it is 21:45:46 and the name seems to come from hebrew 21:46:13 ok 21:46:14 but it is an appropriate coincidence 22:01:11 -!- jix has quit ("CommandQ"). 22:05:49 okay, i can't do this, unchecked conversion in code i've pasted from sun's pages. 22:06:02 because of generics 22:06:22 apparently i cannot convert an Object into a HashMap 22:06:31 very feasible 22:06:43 java is pretty great 22:06:56 hm... 22:07:19 http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=707244&tstart=30 22:07:22 what about (HashMap<...>)(HashMap)(whatever) 22:07:24 this is my problem 22:07:31 except i can't get either to work 22:07:38 not the abstract, not the typed. 22:07:55 i mean, conversion 22:08:13 hmm 22:08:24 i'm pretty sure i hear coffee calling me 22:08:25 -> 22:11:18 oh my god i'm pro, it compiled all along, it was just a warning. 22:11:31 why check when you can debug for hours? 22:12:13 heh 22:12:15 that page you linked has something about @SuppressWarnings("unchecked") 22:12:19 why does that make you a "pro"? 22:12:43 it makes me pro in a sarcastic way 22:13:01 ah, ok 22:13:08 that totally didn;t come across 22:13:18 maybe :) 22:13:23 i'm feeling a bit goofy 22:14:21 vacation? 22:14:31 perhaps 22:16:49 it's funny, i always thought i was the weirder of me and my gf, and she's going to be an out-patient after summer :P 22:16:53 life's funny like that 22:17:04 whoops, two funnies 22:17:09 i guess that's a bit too funny 22:17:56 funny you should say that 22:19:11 i think she's weirder, for choosing a weird boyfriend like that 22:21:38 yeah, oklopol, you should be wary of people who are _that_ weird. might be dangerous :) 22:23:05 with insincere apologies to Groucho Marx 22:24:55 i wish i had time to learn these 7995 random questions and their answers 22:27:30 oklopol: an out-patient of where? 22:28:20 i guess it's kinda like a mad house 22:28:27 just sounds pretty harsh 22:28:29 * oerjan tried to google that and came up with "The Frequency of Use of the Interrogative Formula est-ce que" 22:31:09 not really out-patient... in-patient \o/ 22:31:31 if that's the right term 22:32:23 perhaps completely isolated 22:32:25 dunno yet 22:33:01 hmm, i wonder why i have to tell everything on the channel that happens to be open when it pops to mind 22:33:27 gotta write my artixxels -> 22:37:08 hey, if anybody wants to try a little IRC-based mud prototype I'm working on, just type "/msg PocketUniverse @join" 22:37:36 is that a universe in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me? 22:38:23 lol 22:39:35 can you do anything elsez? 22:39:57 not much yet, but it'll eventually become a Hunt-The-Wumpus game 22:40:10 that's not a mud! 22:40:42 ok, it's a massively multiplayer online wumpus hunt. MMOWH. 22:41:38 hunting the wumpus is very closed-ended. 22:41:49 not necessarily 22:42:09 and it's far from straightforward if other people can "accidentally" kill you with magic arrows 22:43:20 oh that will be fun 22:43:32 indeed 23:01:35 -!- pikhq has joined. 23:05:18 BTW people, room 13 is broken 23:05:24 in a bizarre way 23:05:29 heheh 23:09:19 how? 23:09:36 a typo when I entered the map data 23:09:57 it ends up being several one-way tunnels 23:10:00 i can't decipher the map, 20 and 13 can't ba put next to each other imo :\ 23:10:06 *be 23:10:51 okay, actually trivial to prove that impossible 23:11:59 oklopol: it;s mangled 23:12:10 RodgerTheGreat mixed up 13 and 15 23:12:21 notice the missing backward passages in some places 23:12:56 15 should be next to 16, 6, and 14 23:13:05 13 should be next to 14, 12, and 20 23:13:12 then the numbering is simple 23:13:32 okay... i wish i could've seen that from listing the passages. 23:13:39 ah 23:13:50 indeed, missing backwards passages 23:14:02 then it's izzzzzi 23:15:24 yep. *just* complicated that most people want a map to keep their bearings, not so complicated you constantly get lost 23:15:34 *just complicated enough 23:17:07 oklopol: I figured it out 23:17:18 the map? 23:17:22 yeah 23:17:33 in your head? 23:17:37 or paper? 23:17:37 on paper 23:17:46 -!- c|p has quit ("Leaving"). 23:17:50 HTW is traditionally on a dodecahedron 23:17:51 okay, i'm pretty sure i could do that if i had paper 23:18:17 I suspected that it was labeld siprally, and following you around for a bit showed that it was, except for the glitch 23:18:19 with a text editor it kinda sux 23:18:33 ah, ok 23:19:06 er, with 20 rooms shouldn't it be an icosahedron? 23:19:08 supral? 23:19:40 hmm, has someone done a 3 (or more) D minesweeper? 23:19:46 that might be kinda awesome 23:19:52 the dodecahedron and the icosahedron are duals 23:19:59 i know 23:20:10 and you could have like a character to bounce around with 23:20:28 i just thought it made more sense if rooms were surfaces 23:20:31 it could break a block and walk on any wall 23:20:54 and sing any song 23:21:05 and dial any phone 23:21:12 oklopol: STOP SMOKING THAT 23:21:15 and not just their own phone 23:21:20 other peoples phones 23:21:30 phones that everybody else gave up on 23:21:37 rooms are vertices in my view 23:21:39 but we knew better becvause we were a team 23:21:43 *because 23:22:02 that last bit was from family guy 23:22:10 i'm a bit ashamed about that :< 23:23:19 i wish i had something to smoke 23:26:01 -!- crathman has quit ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]"). 23:26:56 "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." 23:27:32 -!- sebbu2 has quit ("@+"). 23:27:39 hihi oerjan is watching cartoons 23:28:10 okay, i'm officially doing nothing now 23:28:21 wish i had any self-control 23:28:40 okay, so there was this guy that had this hat 23:28:55 not gregor 23:29:03 his name started with an f 23:29:13 and he was a fun guy 23:29:27 once i totally sang a song to him 23:29:29 i am _not_ watching cartoons. 23:29:30 he liked it 23:29:34 oh :| 23:30:20 maybe you are, on some level 23:30:24 like, second 23:30:31 oklopol: you remind me of Delirium in Sandman 23:30:39 who? 23:31:41 actually 23:31:46 hrm 23:31:47 that name kinda explains it 23:31:51 well, trap laying works 23:31:59 kinda like a cookie explains the cat 23:32:04 she speaks like that 23:32:24 well, my hair is long and my scent is sweet 23:32:35 (Sandman's youngest sister and the personification of madness) 23:33:20 but are your eyes different colors? 23:33:24 hmm, no :\ 23:33:33 but no one really knows the colot 23:33:34 Är 23:33:35 *r 23:34:39 hmm... perhaps i _could_ do some programming 23:34:58 i need more screens, irc and fg take both