< 1175644964 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1175645054 0 :happy_song!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kolmogorov complexity result. < 1175645063 0 :happy_song!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't find the optimal compression. < 1175645079 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't need to be optimal < 1175645145 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"8 repitions of 'a'" and "8 repitions of 'b'", while not any smaller than the original strings, still help to compare them < 1175645322 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it requires human interpretation. < 1175645433 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it doesn't < 1175645451 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a computer just dumbly comparing programs would not be able to tell why that was essentially better than ["aaaaaaaa","bbbbbbbb"]!!0 and ["aaaaaaaa","bbbbbbbb"]!!1 < 1175645481 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compression algorithms... < 1175645500 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8b1f 0008 de47 4612 0300 4c4b 0084 002e 66b6 add7 0009 0000 < 1175645512 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8b1f 0008 de52 4612 0300 4a4b 0082 002e 0d07 d1d7 0009 0000 < 1175645521 0 :crathman!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1175645533 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first is 8 a's gziped, the second is 8 b's gziped < 1175645619 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather lousy compression :) < 1175645653 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's so short < 1175645738 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that method will not show similarity of strings, anyhow, unless you are very lucky with how the strings and gzip interact. < 1175645824 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you might do is to compare the compressed lengths of the two strings concatenated and each of them. < 1175645849 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might at least give some information < 1175645854 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use a custom compression algorithm that is designed for this purpose < 1175645891 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"aaaaaaaabbbbbbbb" gziped is 8b1f 0008 e00d 4612 0300 4c4b 8084 2824 02e0 1100 a19d 11b8 0000 0000 < 1175645926 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1175645954 0 :happy_song!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if one of my strings is digits of pi, and the other is digits of 4-pi? < 1175645983 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however gzip doesn't help with things that have no characters in common, does it? < 1175646005 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy_song: it can't consider _all_ similarities < 1175646013 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i dunno < 1175646114 0 :happy_song!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: precisely < 1175646181 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the similarity of A and B could be the length of a program to convert A into B < 1175646183 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a la sed < 1175646213 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a la Levenstein distance < 1175646396 0 :atrapado!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"multiverse?" < 1175646453 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"aaaaaaaa" -> "bbbbbbbb" = s/a/b/g < 1175646551 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reduces to kolmogorov complexity in the case A="" < 1175646572 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1175647758 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-60-51.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1175649991 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+" < 1175650045 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1175651508 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think levenshtein distance of compressed strings is a good similarity metric < 1175651697 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using gzip, < 1175651705 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dist("a"*8, "a"*8) => 0 < 1175651715 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dist("apple", "appel") => 4 < 1175651728 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dist("apple", "bannana") => 10 < 1175651741 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dist("a"*8, "b"*8) => 4 < 1175651803 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dist("a"*100, "b"*100) => 6 < 1175651884 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dist("abcde", "edcba") => 5 < 1175652012 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using bzip2 the results are ... different < 1175652504 0 :Pikhq!n=Pikhq@c-75-70-225-157.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175654961 0 :jix__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1175655893 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION almost has an IME set up. . . < 1175655908 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just need to figure out how to get KDE to start with some environment variables exported. < 1175655910 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sukoshi? < 1175655942 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Found it. < 1175656027 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1175656299 0 :Pikhq!n=pikhq@c-75-70-225-157.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175656322 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :やった! < 1175656352 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARRRRRRRRR, TEH NOT ENGLISH < 1175656359 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[You don't have #plof on autojoin :( :P] < 1175656590 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :少しがいるか? < 1175656602 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARRRRRRRRR, TEH NOT ENGLISH < 1175656613 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's for the other Japanese speaker in here. < 1175658844 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, maybe min(levenshtein(a, b), levenshtein(compress(a), compress(b))) < 1175659044 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :polyglots with C and any language with #-style comments is so easy :) < 1175659087 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because levenshtein(compress.compress()"the quick brown fox jumped over the fence"), compress.compress("the quic brown fox jumped over the fence")) => 6 < 1175659098 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where levenshtein(...) => 1 < 1175659713 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ちょっとね。 < 1175659731 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....I want to write an operating system as a polyglot of a bunch of languages. < 1175659743 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... I say that. < 1175659745 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... < 1175659752 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably go crazy < 1175659755 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before taht happend. < 1175659812 0 :ShadowHntr!i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr JOIN :#esoteric < 1175659909 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :removing headers and shit from the gzipping should help < 1175659957 0 :happy_song!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :lament < 1175659980 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most polyglots play around with comments to achieve polyglotness. < 1175660027 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You almost have to. < 1175660031 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C works well with bash-comments... you can make macros tha won't break the languages that treat it as comments. < 1175660033 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1175660057 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ones that don't take advantage of comments take advantage of the intersection of language syntax :-P < 1175660087 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh... like... Python floor division and...... C comments???? < 1175660093 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION attempts to think of a use. < 1175660116 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. < 1175660120 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's still comment-based < 1175660128 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably aren't going to find any between C and Python ... < 1175660133 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about things like C++ and Java. < 1175660135 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :function calls are nice and common. < 1175660163 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah Python and C are tough... especially because of the differences in blocks. < 1175660169 0 :maverickbna!i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr JOIN :#esoteric < 1175660186 0 :ShadowHntr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1175660200 0 :maverickbna!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ShadowHntr < 1175660245 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175660249 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl and PHP are easy. < 1175660704 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is write-only, PHP is domain-specific (no matter what strange people want to do with it) < 1175660851 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :removing the checksum helped < 1175660858 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python is good < 1175660923 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :helped A LOT < 1175660952 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ...likes Perl. :( < 1175660974 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bloody Perl. < 1175660978 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Godawful language. < 1175661001 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They miserably failed to draw "the line." < 1175661051 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pikhq: I'm here sort of. < 1175661119 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION draws the line _________________________________________ < 1175661366 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, CakeProphet, I think i've satisfactorily implemented an algorithm to compare strings < 1175661377 0 :ShadowHntr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1175661382 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :happy_song < 1175661513 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and here she is: http://pastebin.ca/423400 < 1175661671 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note, that's the distance between strings, not a ratio of similarity < 1175662094 0 :Pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1175662524 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm < 1175662531 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it intended for < 1175664364 0 :ShadowHntr!i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr JOIN :#esoteric < 1175664980 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: finding how similar two strings are < 1175665165 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gives a value in the range [0..] < 1175665178 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 = the same string < 1175665576 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1175666273 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmnt, no I mean... do you want to find typos... or do you want "pure" difference in characters? < 1175666287 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1175666366 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll recognize typos, sure, but i wanted to create an algorithm that recognizes strings like "aaaaaaaaa" and "bbbbbbbbb" as similar < 1175666367 0 :FSi!n=fsi2nd@212.193.74.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1175666395 0 :FSi!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Arrgh < 1175666420 0 :Arrgh!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :FSi < 1175666474 0 :FSi!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Hardley < 1175666663 0 :Hardley!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1175666810 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :data compression is interesting < 1175666830 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh < 1175666852 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for typos... addings a transposition operation does wonders. < 1175667001 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :transposition in compressed data won't mean much < 1175667286 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1175667309 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :data compression is the art of finding similarities < 1175667580 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how effective "macro-like" compression would be. < 1175667582 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like... < 1175667609 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say you split data up and then check each of their similarities. < 1175667664 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could find parts that are similar to a large number of these chunks... and abstract that as a "macro"... which can take arguments corresponding to the differences. < 1175667681 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just backreferences < 1175667697 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lz77 < 1175667712 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm? < 1175667715 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like... < 1175667800 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x5=Hello,\0! < 1175667858 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could compress anything that had that pattern into a macro like x(World) x(Goats) etc < 1175667911 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for redundency that isn't always linear. < 1175668065 0 :ShadowHntr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1175668648 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could just make the decompressor an interpreter for a turing complete language... < 1175668827 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=Greasemo@222-154-178-240.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1175669911 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1175669917 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see a step by step view of bzip2 compressing something < 1175671602 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CCC^ < 1175671715 0 :CCC^!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GreaseMonkey < 1175671902 0 :nooga!i=nooga@xdsl-6552.lubin.dialog.net.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1175671911 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: not universe < 1175671923 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only a scene with bounds < 1175671958 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, that's so many conversations ago O_O < 1175671981 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :photons would disappear when they are absorber or they leave the boundaries or hit the virtual photographic film < 1175671988 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :absorbed* < 1175672012 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe I mentioned something about an "arbitrary bounds" < 1175672036 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1175672104 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_tracing < 1175672106 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check that out < 1175672114 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was done in java < 1175672132 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would code in C with inline asm < 1175672246 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cpjava.net/raytraces/DRUN.GIF < 1175672254 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :results r stunning < 1175672437 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the best part of fun will be collecting computers for distributed rendering < 1175672925 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g2g bye < 1175672965 0 :happy_song!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i woludn't exactly call that picture stunning. < 1175673182 0 :happy_song!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amusing, maybe. < 1175673599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1175673600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1175673664 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eww, java < 1175673925 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk, food < 1175674886 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1175676965 0 :nazgjunk!n=htitan@wikipedia/Nazgjunk JOIN :#esoteric < 1175678106 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-35-203.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1175679576 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-47-137.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1175680279 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1175680282 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1175682943 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna go sleep, gnight < 1175683022 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"one day to go, then school's out" < 1175687221 0 :happy_song!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1175687277 0 :happy_song!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175689239 0 :jix__!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-050-097.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1175690892 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13# I don't feel like dancing # < 1175690921 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry about the pink text, but that guy has the most irritating falsetto voice ever. < 1175692231 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION indicates that this might be of some interest to people here: http://jededag.blogspot.com/ < 1175692245 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know more than a little about the story behind it < 1175694488 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaa < 1175696835 0 :helios_!i=helios@peach.n1.helzilla.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1175696841 0 :helios_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1175699307 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a q q < 1175699837 0 :crathman!n=chatzill@69.15.198.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1175699892 0 :crathman!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1175700003 0 :crathman!n=chatzill@69.15.198.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1175700069 0 :crathman!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1175705072 0 :happy_song!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1175710122 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1175713169 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm... < 1175713179 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a server... so I can host a Subversion repository. < 1175713379 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or.. maybe find a free host... do such things exist? < 1175714142 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1175714851 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1175715162 0 :atrapado!i=opened@54.Red-81-47-7.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175715776 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1175715878 0 :ShadowHntr!i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr JOIN :#esoteric < 1175715915 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1175716351 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1175717785 0 :nooga!i=nooga@xdsl-6552.lubin.dialog.net.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1175719256 0 :LookA!n=gareth@S0106000393e6a931.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175719274 0 :LookA!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Howdy < 1175719301 0 :fax!n=lol@amcant.demon.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1175719313 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1175719323 0 :LookA!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does exist. < 1175719351 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1175719358 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are tunes logging this < 1175719381 0 :LookA!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1175719405 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people wake up in the morning and read #esoteric logs instead of the newspaper. < 1175719418 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1175719601 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION points out that he reads #esoteric logs _and_ the newspaper. < 1175719667 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although truth be told, i usually read #esoteric logs first. < 1175721033 0 :LookA!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot: !help < 1175721076 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ! must be first on line < 1175721231 0 :LookA!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, thanks. < 1175721770 0 :LookA!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1175722187 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-56-188.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1175722517 0 :jix__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1175722539 0 :jix__!n=jix@dyndsl-080-228-190-144.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1175723285 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1175724063 0 :dub_!i=opened@71.Red-81-47-13.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175724989 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175725229 0 :atrapado!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1175725239 0 :dub_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :atrapado < 1175725325 0 :Ryacko!n=chatzill@pool-71-106-9-229.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1175725481 0 :Ryacko!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please say "Hello, World!" < 1175725504 0 :Ryacko!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1175725788 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dooo < 1175725807 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hi bsmntbombdood < 1175725859 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are welcome to join #lispcafe as is everyone else here :D < 1175725883 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#lispcafe? < 1175725920 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: yet another lisp channel, but there is good discussion a lot of the time < 1175726716 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had an idea for an esolang recently < 1175726738 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1175726740 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be an emo-person based programming language called "Theirspace" < 1175726756 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the emo people (enodes) are arranged in a graph < 1175726795 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can exchange messages via comments, and internally store opinions of other enodes (an endex, or emo-index). < 1175726813 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :endices are naturally the product of what other people say about a specific person < 1175726845 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so comments can include phrases with specific meanings like "you suck" or "this person sucks" that influence endices. < 1175726866 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the opposite of sucking would be being "totally HxC" < 1175726868 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1175726898 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders the effect of the message "NN always lies about other people" < 1175726931 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and enodes can also store rules imparted via comments from enodes they respect, like "don't listen to " or "tell people who write poetry to kill themselves" < 1175726960 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, gonad < 1175726971 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two data types, testicles and ovaries < 1175726973 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1175726993 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rules can also be obeyed or ignored based on the cliques enodes belong to < 1175727061 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you guys think? Does it show promise? < 1175727138 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like it requires AI < 1175727144 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be interesting if you could acutally execute myspace.com < 1175727191 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what do you mean? The enodes would just be looking for and generating sequences of canned phrases < 1175727203 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would only be designed to *resemble* online conversations. < 1175727227 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1175727314 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, I guess you could use Markov chains or something to make it more spontaneous < 1175727327 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you could feed in actual emo-speak and the like. < 1175727353 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :computation through genetics! < 1175727353 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and generate a garbled mishmash of words resembling random emo-speak < 1175727363 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1175727853 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1175727868 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-60-51.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1175729881 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like.. < 1175729891 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anything better than Windows command prompt out there? < 1175729903 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh huh < 1175729906 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and if you say bash I will FUCKING KILL YOU < 1175729907 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash < 1175729916 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant... for Windows < 1175729939 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf would you use windows? < 1175729963 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...because I can't get my network adapter to work for Linux. < 1175729976 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and because I don't think Linux is too much better than Windows. < 1175729982 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's too extremes. < 1175729985 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two < 1175730022 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then don't use linux < 1175730025 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use bsd < 1175730032 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1175730080 0 :atrapado!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet, try cygwin , a unix environment for windows < 1175730086 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got it. < 1175730093 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of clumsy < 1175730098 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to use. < 1175730120 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mom is kinda clumsy < 1175730122 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to use < 1175730131 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cygwin is fun! < 1175730920 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric