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00:40:48 <Sgeo> AFK
00:41:05 <bsmntbombdood> MAN LOVE RULES OK
00:42:15 <oerjan> TIME FLIES LIKE AN ARROW
00:42:28 <oerjan> FRUIT FLIES LIKE A BANANA
00:42:39 <bsmntbombdood> HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT
00:45:28 <oerjan> FOR A HILLARIOUS PRESIDENT
00:45:31 <Sgeo> back
00:46:05 <bsmntbombdood> COUNTRY WESTERN IS RUBBISH
00:46:18 <bsmntbombdood> http://youtube.com/watch?v=G6MJVzXbqRU
00:46:44 <oerjan> WESTERN COUNTRIES ARE BULLISH
00:48:25 <bsmntbombdood> MAN LOVE RULES OK
00:48:36 <SimonRC> THE OLD MAN THE BOATS
00:48:49 <bsmntbombdood> CAPITAL LETTERS ON MY HAT
00:48:59 <SimonRC> _Top Gear_ are great
00:49:06 <SimonRC> *is
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00:49:20 <bsmntbombdood> never heard of it
00:49:27 * SimonRC explains...
00:49:35 <bsmntbombdood> except for that clip
00:50:05 <SimonRC> For you Americans out there, _Top Gear_ is a sitcom about 3 guys whose job is to review and rate cars...
00:50:42 <SimonRC> there are genuine car reviews in the show, but much of it is about the stuff they get up to by claiming expenses off their employer.
01:02:20 <SimonRC> Ok, so I lied.
01:02:46 <SimonRC> It is actually supposed to be a car-reviewing show, and only incidentally a sitcom.
01:03:26 <oerjan> now that is what YOU think
01:14:18 * SimonRC suddenly wonders why people have pets. Yer stereotypical objective being would see it as a waste of effort for no appaent gain.
01:14:32 <SimonRC> Humans know different though...
01:14:36 <bsmntbombdood> companionship?
01:15:16 <oerjan> your stereotypical objective being would exterminate humans and replace them by more efficient robots
01:16:02 <SimonRC> bsmntbombdood: yeah, but don't other humans give that?
01:16:09 <bsmntbombdood> no
01:16:13 <bsmntbombdood> pets never bitch at you
01:16:15 <SimonRC> oerjan: I was looking for a more sensible answer.
01:16:29 <oerjan> have i ever been known to be sensible?
01:16:35 <SimonRC> sigh
01:17:23 <oerjan> there is probably less effort with a pet than with humans
01:17:39 <bsmntbombdood> yeah
01:17:48 <bsmntbombdood> food and a place to sleep and a pet is happy
01:18:07 <SimonRC> hmm, yeah
01:19:17 <bsmntbombdood> to live with a human, it has to like you
01:20:36 <SimonRC> Same for animals I would have thought.
01:21:10 <SimonRC> Ah, but there are plenty of species that are more friendly than humans.
01:21:16 <SimonRC> individually, at least.
01:21:53 <bsmntbombdood> yeah
01:22:08 <oerjan> animals are less complicated
01:22:18 <bsmntbombdood> a dog is going to like you even if no chick will give you a chance
01:22:31 <bsmntbombdood> unless your a total fuckhead
01:22:57 <SimonRC> yeah, ok
01:25:23 <SimonRC> The question came up because I was wondering why something of superhuman intelligence would keep humans as pets.
01:26:28 <oerjan> you writing an sf story?
01:28:06 <SimonRC> not exactly
01:28:14 <SimonRC> ...
01:28:42 <oerjan> hm... would a superintelligent being be able to make humans enjoy being its pets?
01:28:56 <SimonRC> depends on the definition of "pet"
01:29:00 <SimonRC> and on the humans
01:29:17 <oerjan> i suppose so, since humans worship gods
01:30:04 <oerjan> for that matter, maybe we already are pets
01:30:16 <SimonRC> ... If you look after them, give them the correct environment (including other humans of course) and work that they enjoy, they will be perfectly happy.
01:30:36 <SimonRC> plus insome ways you will understand them better than any humans can
01:30:59 <SimonRC> http://fof.durge.org/~sc/Kigdatsi/
01:31:04 <oerjan> perhaps there is an unending chain of pet-owner relationships
01:31:07 <SimonRC> nah
01:31:33 <SimonRC> I have been inconsistant over the years, but the above is a collection of things I have written.
01:32:28 <SimonRC> the messages to and from "Fonori" under "written_cwi" are the most important recent conversation, though they are about a specific scenario.
01:32:33 <oerjan> i suppose the possibility of that would depend on whether there is an unending progression of possible levels of intelligence
01:32:39 <SimonRC> yes
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17:37:02 * SimonRC is going to meet Kevin Warwick.
17:50:07 <lament> kewho.
17:51:18 <SimonRC> RTFW
17:53:51 <lament> tfwhat
17:57:06 <SimonRC> Wikipedia
17:57:14 <lament> oh pf.
18:00:10 <lament> i'm not reading that!
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18:08:34 <sebbu> hi everybody
18:08:48 <oerjan> hi
18:09:25 <lament> hy
18:15:44 <RodgerTheGreat> hi
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