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00:00:35 <calamari> http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~cfs/472_html/Intro/TinkertoyComputer/TinkerToy.html
00:02:22 <RodgerTheGreat> ah, A.K. Dewdney.
00:04:12 <ivan`> that would have been impressive for 1889
00:05:39 <RodgerTheGreat> well, if people in the 1800's had the capacity for mass-producing construction toys to a high-tolerance, Babbage would've been able to build his difference *and* analytical engines out of ye olde legos.
00:06:05 <RodgerTheGreat> and that dash in "high tolerance" was superfluous.
00:46:13 <CakeProphet> that whitespace in "hightolerance" was superfluous.
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01:06:27 <ihope> Allwhitespaceissuperfluous.
01:06:45 <ihope> IcanevenwriteaWhitespaceprogramwithoutusingwhitespace.
01:06:58 <ihope> IcanalsospeakGermanwithoutusingwhitespace.:-)
01:07:17 <oerjan> Ndwhlwrdscssngthmttr,lt'sgtrdfthvwlst
01:08:12 <ihope> Hby,nwyrbrdrngnthdgfnnsnscl.
01:08:37 <ihope> (Mind giving a translation?)
01:10:00 <oerjan> Nd whl w e dscssng th mttr, lt's gt rd f th vwls t
01:10:07 <oerjan> *r
01:10:35 <ihope> Ys,gdd.
01:11:11 <ihope> LTSRMVPNCTTNNDCPTLZTNT
01:11:29 <ihope> (Let's remove punctuation and capitalization, too!)
01:12:13 <oerjan> but what is dgf?
01:13:07 <oerjan> NCRSNTRP
01:13:19 <oerjan> RMVNFRMTN
01:14:36 <ihope> And now for something completely different: "Hi, All I've studied English sinse Summer . It's Really difficult I would like like to meet boys and practisice My English with them."
01:14:58 <ihope> Not that that's not in the recent changes page of the wiki.
01:15:40 <lament> who wouldn't like to meet boys.
01:16:21 <oerjan> SPMSPMSPMSPMSPMSPMSPMSPMSPMSPMSPMSPM
01:17:21 <ihope> LLNTRNT
01:17:42 <ihope> Rllcnnnndrstndths
01:18:02 <ihope> Cntp
01:19:51 <oerjan> DNTNDRSTNDNTHNGYRSYING
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01:35:10 <ihope> WLLNDRSTNDYPRFCTL
01:36:13 <ihope> YSDTHTTHSTTFCHRNLGNCSSTTDSFTHSLPNGPLC
01:36:39 <bsmntbombdood> OMGWTFBBQ
01:36:56 <ihope> omgvowel.
01:51:04 <lament> aaaaeei
01:53:13 <bsmntbombdood> aeudtns
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17:55:30 * SimonRC wonders if oerjan realises that various ancient civilisations actually wrote entirely in consonants with not spacing or capitalisation.
18:03:52 <GregorR-L> Egyptian, for example.
18:03:57 <GregorR-L> But I have no idea what the context is :)
18:04:21 <SimonRC> 01:04 < ihope> LTSRMVPNCTTNNDCPTLZTNT
18:04:21 <SimonRC> 01:04 < ihope> (Let's remove punctuation and capitalization, too!)
18:04:21 <SimonRC> 01:05 < oerjan> but what is dgf?
18:04:21 <SimonRC> 01:06 < oerjan> NCRSNTRP
18:04:21 <SimonRC> 01:06 < oerjan> RMVNFRMTN
18:04:39 <SimonRC> I just can't read what oe wrote.
18:04:59 <GregorR-L> Yeah, that's a toughie XD
18:05:09 <GregorR-L> It's probably possible to be used to it.
18:05:29 <SimonRC> and if you have a less vowel-centric language than English
18:05:34 <GregorR-L> True
18:06:22 <SimonRC> Pack, park, peck, peek, perk, pick, pike, pock, poke, pork, puck, puke.
18:06:41 <SimonRC> And, if they were words: pake and pirk, too.
18:07:00 <SimonRC> and peark
18:07:16 <SimonRC> all those are PK in just consonants.
18:07:24 <GregorR-L> Worse yet, pik and pike :)
18:08:00 <GregorR-L> High-five for the subtle R-is-a-vowel reference, btw.
18:08:53 <SimonRC> ITYM R-is-part-of-the-vowel.
18:09:57 <GregorR-L> Depends on your accent.
18:10:06 <GregorR-L> In an English accent, R modifies the vowel.
18:10:09 <SimonRC> Then of course there's: a, are, air, ear, err, our, or, owe.
18:10:11 <GregorR-L> In an American accent, R is the vowel.
18:10:31 <SimonRC> hence stuff like "fRmR"
18:11:01 <GregorR-L> Yup
18:11:34 <SimonRC> And then there's "Merkin", which means either "American" or a pubic wig.
18:11:37 <SimonRC> seriously
18:12:03 * GregorR-L wonders why pubic wigs exist XD
18:13:52 <SimonRC> For porn movies aparently.
18:27:31 <SimonRC> Question: What do you get if you plot IP space allocations on the Hilbert curve?  Answer:   http://xkcd.com/c195.html
18:27:35 <SimonRC> I like it.
18:29:12 <GregorR-L> Hah
18:29:14 <GregorR-L> That's great
18:36:37 * SimonRC lols at MIT.
18:36:38 <SimonRC> Apparently each dorm gets a class-B network.
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23:12:40 <GregorR-L> calamari: I believe you asked some ridiculous amount of time ago (days), whether c2bf made assumptions about cell size.
23:12:50 <GregorR-L> It maps all data types to one cell (I know, awesome).
23:13:02 <calamari> yeah, so what assumptions does it make
23:13:15 <lindi-> what does c2bf do?
23:13:21 <GregorR-L> lindi-: Compiles C to BF
23:13:31 <lindi-> ANSI C89 ?
23:13:42 <GregorR-L> calamari: Generally you'd want to run it on at least a 16-bit interp.
23:14:08 <GregorR-L> lindi-: A ridiculously tiny subset :P
23:14:11 <calamari> so sizeof(int) is undefined ?
23:14:19 <GregorR-L> It's 1 ^^
23:14:31 <calamari> lol
23:14:33 <GregorR-L> But 1 in this case isn't necessarily 1 byte :P
23:14:34 <calamari> I gotcha
23:14:42 <calamari> but it could be
23:15:32 <calamari> does it assume wrapping cells ?
23:16:04 * GregorR-L thinks for a moment.
23:16:58 <ihope> Eh, I suddenly remembered I made a new version of that QBF interpreter.
23:17:08 <calamari> or an alternate way of asking that.. does signed int work?
23:17:57 <ihope> And that means I get to bug GregorR-L until he uploads it to the archive thingy and updates EgoBot with it!
23:18:03 <GregorR-L> Yeah, it does.
23:18:09 <GregorR-L> ihope: Do you see EgoBot in here?
23:18:33 <ihope> Does EgoBot need to be here for you to update him with it?
23:19:00 <GregorR-L> Technically no :P
23:19:08 <ihope> I see.
23:19:30 <ihope> Can you upload it to the archive, at least?
23:19:45 <GregorR-L> I think my access disappeared somewhere ^^
23:19:52 <GregorR-L> Or somewhen I should say.
23:19:58 <calamari> GregorR: so .. int x = 4; x = x - 7;  what happens? :)
23:20:14 * calamari guesses it uses wrapping 
23:20:19 <GregorR-L> calamari: It does indeed wrap around.
23:20:20 <ihope> Oh.
23:20:36 <GregorR-L> calamari: It uses wrapping if you use wrapping in the C code. I think that's the most correct thing I can say.
23:21:11 <ihope> I, um... well, where else can I send it?
23:21:27 <calamari> that makes sense.. thanks :)
23:21:40 <GregorR-L> ihope: Send it to me, I'll add it and /give/ you the .tar.bz2 ;)
23:21:56 <ihope> Do whatnow?
23:23:27 <GregorR-L> Send me whatever it is you want added to EgoBot, I'll send you a .tar.bz2 of the latest EgoBot.
23:25:29 <ihope> I guess that'll work.
23:25:41 <ihope> Maybe partially sort of.
23:27:45 * ihope runs a tar -cz and hopes that's the right way to do it
23:28:39 <GregorR-L> You'll want an f there.
23:28:48 <GregorR-L> Or it'll actually try to write it to a tape ^^
23:29:47 <bsmntbombdood> That defualt has always made me mad
23:30:24 <ihope> tar: -f: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
23:30:36 <ihope> That's on tar -cz qubit.py qbf.py -f ./qbf.tgz
23:32:45 <GregorR-L> tar -zcf qbf.tar.gz <files>
23:37:55 <ihope> What's wrong with .tgz? :-P
23:40:32 <GregorR-L> *shrugs*
23:40:35 <GregorR-L> Just a matter of preference.
23:42:15 * GregorR-L is doubtful that that will work.
23:42:18 * GregorR-L suggests email.
23:43:12 <ihope> Won't it?
23:43:24 <GregorR-L> Doesn't seem to be.
23:44:47 <ihope> Well, it certainly didn't work.
23:45:02 <ihope> You have an email address, then?
23:45:23 <ihope> Is it n=GregorR-@192.102.209.4, as my client claims? :-P
23:45:27 <GregorR-L> lol