< 1165795200 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1165795235 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~cfs/472_html/Intro/TinkertoyComputer/TinkerToy.html < 1165795342 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, A.K. Dewdney. < 1165795452 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would have been impressive for 1889 < 1165795539 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if people in the 1800's had the capacity for mass-producing construction toys to a high-tolerance, Babbage would've been able to build his difference *and* analytical engines out of ye olde legos. < 1165795565 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that dash in "high tolerance" was superfluous. < 1165797973 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that whitespace in "hightolerance" was superfluous. < 1165798214 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC for those that like to be different" < 1165799187 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Allwhitespaceissuperfluous. < 1165799205 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IcanevenwriteaWhitespaceprogramwithoutusingwhitespace. < 1165799218 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IcanalsospeakGermanwithoutusingwhitespace.:-) < 1165799237 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ndwhlwrdscssngthmttr,lt'sgtrdfthvwlst < 1165799292 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hby,nwyrbrdrngnthdgfnnsnscl. < 1165799317 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mind giving a translation?) < 1165799400 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nd whl w e dscssng th mttr, lt's gt rd f th vwls t < 1165799407 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*r < 1165799435 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ys,gdd. < 1165799471 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LTSRMVPNCTTNNDCPTLZTNT < 1165799489 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Let's remove punctuation and capitalization, too!) < 1165799533 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what is dgf? < 1165799587 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NCRSNTRP < 1165799599 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RMVNFRMTN < 1165799676 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now for something completely different: "Hi, All I've studied English sinse Summer . It's Really difficult I would like like to meet boys and practisice My English with them." < 1165799698 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that that's not in the recent changes page of the wiki. < 1165799740 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who wouldn't like to meet boys. < 1165799781 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPMSPMSPMSPMSPMSPMSPMSPMSPMSPMSPMSPM < 1165799841 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LLNTRNT < 1165799862 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rllcnnnndrstndths < 1165799882 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cntp < 1165799991 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DNTNDRSTNDNTHNGYRSYING < 1165800197 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"TMTGTBD" < 1165800910 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WLLNDRSTNDYPRFCTL < 1165800973 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YSDTHTTHSTTFCHRNLGNCSSTTDSFTHSLPNGPLC < 1165800999 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMGWTFBBQ < 1165801016 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omgvowel. < 1165801864 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaeei < 1165801993 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aeudtns < 1165802434 0 :ShadowHntr!i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr JOIN :#esoteric < 1165806779 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1165813470 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1165813485 0 :Arrogant!i=Paragon@224.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1165816136 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1165819261 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1165822966 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :OMGZOMGROFL < 1165823020 0 :OMGZOMGROFL!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1165823999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1165824000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1165824932 0 :ShadowHntr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1165827427 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1165845391 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1165847427 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-923fe155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1165848750 0 :jix_!n=jix@L60b8.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1165850825 0 :wooby_!n=alan@cpe-66-67-60-51.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1165850831 0 :wooby_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1165854132 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@192.102.209.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1165859467 0 :DRMacIver!n=david@unaffiliated/drmaciver JOIN :#esoteric < 1165859730 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if oerjan realises that various ancient civilisations actually wrote entirely in consonants with not spacing or capitalisation.
< 1165860232 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Egyptian, for example. < 1165860237 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I have no idea what the context is :) < 1165860261 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:04 < ihope> LTSRMVPNCTTNNDCPTLZTNT < 1165860261 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:04 < ihope> (Let's remove punctuation and capitalization, too!) < 1165860261 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:05 < oerjan> but what is dgf? < 1165860261 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:06 < oerjan> NCRSNTRP < 1165860261 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:06 < oerjan> RMVNFRMTN < 1165860279 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just can't read what oe wrote. < 1165860299 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's a toughie XD < 1165860309 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably possible to be used to it. < 1165860329 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you have a less vowel-centric language than English < 1165860334 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1165860382 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pack, park, peck, peek, perk, pick, pike, pock, poke, pork, puck, puke. < 1165860401 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, if they were words: pake and pirk, too. < 1165860420 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and peark < 1165860436 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all those are PK in just consonants. < 1165860444 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worse yet, pik and pike :) < 1165860480 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :High-five for the subtle R-is-a-vowel reference, btw. < 1165860533 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITYM R-is-part-of-the-vowel. < 1165860597 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on your accent. < 1165860606 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In an English accent, R modifies the vowel. < 1165860609 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then of course there's: a, are, air, ear, err, our, or, owe. < 1165860611 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In an American accent, R is the vowel. < 1165860631 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence stuff like "fRmR" < 1165860661 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1165860694 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there's "Merkin", which means either "American" or a pubic wig. < 1165860697 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1165860723 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders why pubic wigs exist XD
< 1165860832 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For porn movies aparently. < 1165861651 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question: What do you get if you plot IP space allocations on the Hilbert curve? Answer: http://xkcd.com/c195.html < 1165861655 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it. < 1165861752 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah < 1165861754 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's great < 1165862197 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lols at MIT.
< 1165862198 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently each dorm gets a class-B network. < 1165862510 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes.
< 1165863394 0 :DRMacIver!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1165863394 0 :meatmanek!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1165863394 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1165863436 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1165863495 0 :DRMacIver!n=david@c213-100-27-14.swipnet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1165863589 0 :meatmanek!n=meatmane@cpe-65-29-79-179.indy.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1165866047 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1165866275 0 :jix_!n=jix@L60b8.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1165867679 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1165868557 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1165869666 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1165869801 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1165870766 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h110.227.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1165873786 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1165873970 0 :ShadowHntr!i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr JOIN :#esoteric < 1165877655 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1165878760 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I believe you asked some ridiculous amount of time ago (days), whether c2bf made assumptions about cell size. < 1165878770 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It maps all data types to one cell (I know, awesome). < 1165878782 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, so what assumptions does it make < 1165878795 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does c2bf do? < 1165878801 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: Compiles C to BF < 1165878811 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANSI C89 ? < 1165878822 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Generally you'd want to run it on at least a 16-bit interp. < 1165878848 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: A ridiculously tiny subset :P < 1165878851 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so sizeof(int) is undefined ? < 1165878859 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 1 ^^ < 1165878871 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1165878873 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But 1 in this case isn't necessarily 1 byte :P < 1165878874 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gotcha < 1165878882 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it could be < 1165878932 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it assume wrapping cells ? < 1165878964 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks for a moment.
< 1165879018 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, I suddenly remembered I made a new version of that QBF interpreter. < 1165879028 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or an alternate way of asking that.. does signed int work? < 1165879077 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that means I get to bug GregorR-L until he uploads it to the archive thingy and updates EgoBot with it! < 1165879083 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it does. < 1165879089 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: Do you see EgoBot in here? < 1165879113 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does EgoBot need to be here for you to update him with it? < 1165879140 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically no :P < 1165879148 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1165879170 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you upload it to the archive, at least? < 1165879185 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my access disappeared somewhere ^^ < 1165879192 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or somewhen I should say. < 1165879198 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: so .. int x = 4; x = x - 7; what happens? :) < 1165879214 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION guesses it uses wrapping
< 1165879219 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: It does indeed wrap around. < 1165879220 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1165879236 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: It uses wrapping if you use wrapping in the C code. I think that's the most correct thing I can say. < 1165879271 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, um... well, where else can I send it? < 1165879287 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense.. thanks :) < 1165879300 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: Send it to me, I'll add it and /give/ you the .tar.bz2 ;) < 1165879316 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do whatnow? < 1165879407 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send me whatever it is you want added to EgoBot, I'll send you a .tar.bz2 of the latest EgoBot. < 1165879529 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that'll work. < 1165879541 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe partially sort of. < 1165879665 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs a tar -cz and hopes that's the right way to do it
< 1165879719 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll want an f there. < 1165879728 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it'll actually try to write it to a tape ^^ < 1165879787 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That defualt has always made me mad < 1165879824 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar: -f: Cannot stat: No such file or directory < 1165879836 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's on tar -cz qubit.py qbf.py -f ./qbf.tgz < 1165879965 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar -zcf qbf.tar.gz < 1165880275 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with .tgz? :-P < 1165880432 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrugs* < 1165880435 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a matter of preference. < 1165880535 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is doubtful that that will work.
< 1165880538 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suggests email.
< 1165880592 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Won't it? < 1165880604 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem to be. < 1165880687 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it certainly didn't work. < 1165880702 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have an email address, then? < 1165880723 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it n=GregorR-@192.102.209.4, as my client claims? :-P < 1165880727 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol