< 1165449606 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1165449641 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1165449678 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are all wrong. < 1165449691 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :orly? how so? < 1165449706 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament could have that on a T-Shirt. < 1165449789 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hopes lament is typing a long and enlightening sentance. < 1165449801 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION too < 1165449821 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hopes that lament is typing a long rant that will make this conversation keep spiraling into the tubes. < 1165449858 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1165449859 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well - I need an idea for a project for the programming teacher < 1165449956 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A roguelike! < 1165449978 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1165449982 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can last as a project from a few days to a lifetime. < 1165450405 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: a virtual girlfriend < 1165450416 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1165450554 0 :DarthLappy!n=darthshr@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine JOIN :#esoteric < 1165450789 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WRU? < 1165450933 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WRU? < 1165451594 0 :DarthLappy!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1165452664 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm... < 1165452696 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Changing the entire foundation of your fairly-developed-but-not-quite-complete system structure is absolutely lovely < 1165452894 0 :Keymaker!n=nobody@xdsl-237-87.nebulazone.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1165453364 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ##-# < 1165453365 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 > +< 2 < 1165453365 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1165453365 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : - < 1165453365 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1165453365 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ## < 1165453370 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ftw < 1165454131 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is away: afk pie < 1165454150 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pie made from the sweet sweet AFK berries. < 1165454432 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1165454649 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1165454730 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is back (gone 00:09:58) < 1165455582 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1165458764 0 :JadussD!n=not@adsl-68-75-60-236.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1165459857 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1165459865 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JadussD: who are you? < 1165459871 0 :JadussD!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a wanderer i guess < 1165459895 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know what this place was before coming here? < 1165459915 0 :JadussD!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a way, i had an idea. < 1165459926 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did you find out about it? < 1165459934 0 :JadussD!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guessed that it existed. < 1165459939 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1165459945 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't we all. < 1165459963 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I think I read about it on an esolanging webpage < 1165459986 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I know a few of the inhabitants here from other channels < 1165459997 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't :( < 1165460031 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have a look around the wiki, there're loads of esolangs on there, not all implemented. < 1165460037 0 :JadussD!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have encountered brainfuck before... < 1165460041 0 :JadussD!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is new to me though < 1165460063 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the first esolang I found out about too < 1165460091 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NewScientist ran a small column on esolangs many years back, and I Googled#. < 1165460104 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC I was in secondary school. < 1165460518 0 :JadussD!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had no idea there were so many programming languages, cool. does anyone know of one designed for relating words, ie, one designed for words grouped into categories like "synonym", "antonym", a two word replacement for a single word, etc? < 1165461356 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1165461927 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1165463596 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1165463635 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11faadf.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1165463644 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-71-193-149-252.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1165464143 0 :JadussD!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1165467889 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtg food < 1165467911 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Connection error 130 (Monkey too greasy)" < 1165468928 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1165469168 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1165469351 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1165475655 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1165476129 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" Like VS.net's GUI? Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-" < 1165478399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1165478400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1165479699 0 :ShadowHntr!i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr JOIN :#esoteric < 1165484082 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-923fe155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1165486472 0 :ShadowHntr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"End of line." < 1165488651 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1165502964 0 :jix!n=jix@L621c.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1165508337 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1165508402 0 :Arrogant!i=Paragon@26.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1165508941 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1165509623 0 :fizzie2!n=fizban@sesefras.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1165510910 0 :fizzie2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1165511097 0 :fizzie2!n=fizban@sesefras.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1165512716 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys, check this out: http://archives.nesc.ac.uk/gcproposal-5/0080.html < 1165512775 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bookofparagon.com/Mathematics/PerspexMachineIII.pdf < 1165513972 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-923fe155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1165517923 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1165518468 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-82.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1165520032 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Ah, just some guy who seems to have invented a nice way to extend the reals to handle 0/0. < 1165520174 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard the story in the another channel, and concluded the guy was pretty boring so make (or invent) that useless symbol. < 1165520345 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, i wonder last time i tell something here :S < 1165520372 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's apparently got a mildly useful system out of it. < 1165520419 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there is a great quote in his paper (from memory): "The popularity of IEEE floating-point shows that the Reals are not fit for purpose." < 1165520473 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh. I heard about this story just a few hours ago in another channel. < 1165520507 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what *is* nullity / nullity? < 1165521275 0 :wooby!n=alan@ny-lancastercadent4g1-3a-236.buf.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1165521287 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1165521365 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: 0/0 it appears < 1165521396 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A CS grad I know says that this system looks useful for his work (program correctness, among other things). < 1165521735 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1165521746 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't read the actual paper, just someone else's gloss-over. < 1165521758 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's too intense I won't until my flu abates, either. < 1165521869 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PerspexMachineIII.pdf is the actual paper? link seems broken. < 1165523327 0 :oklopol!i=okokokok@194.251.102.88 JOIN :#esoteric < 1165523369 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1165524263 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some sort of little-DSP-vocabulary-knowledge version of the Vorbis (or MP3) standard out there? < 1165525691 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In trying to cut down the possible algorithms for sorting 5 items with just 7 comparisons, I think I am gradually creating a proof that such an algorithm cannot exist. < 1165525709 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun < 1165525727 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to find one is summative coursework. < 1165525739 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bubble sort ftw < 1165525973 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The constraints so far are guiding my algorith-creation precisely. < 1165526014 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now all I have to do is keep following the constrains and prove new ones until I get either an answer or a complete set of dead-ends. < 1165526066 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone interested in Hisashi Iizawa's Malbolge paper? < 1165526120 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a plan to translate the paper to english, although i'm not fluent in japanese (only have basic understanding) < 1165526123 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a load of shit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/berkshire/content/articles/2006/12/06/divide_zero_feature.shtml < 1165526173 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A compsci grad says it looks useful for proably-correct programs, as it makes division total. < 1165526662 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1165528536 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's the paper? I'll give the translation a go. < 1165528565 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Malbolge one, obviously. < 1165528580 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X, http://www.sakabe.i.is.nagoya-u.ac.jp/~nishida/DB/pdf/iizawa05ss2005-22.pdf here. < 1165528628 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you understand japanese? < 1165528645 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. I can. < 1165528652 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... And Xpdf renders that into garbage. < 1165528668 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I need to get the Japanese fonts for it. < 1165528723 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you can translate the paper better than i can ;) < 1165528773 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, my Japanese is alright. Enough for teen novels with difficulty. < 1165528816 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use pdf2text or similar? < 1165528823 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe... hmmm... < 1165528852 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. It's an xpdf thing, after all. < 1165528866 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh. And the Japanese language pack on the Foolabs site seems unavailable. < 1165528888 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm learning japanese, but not so good for the paper ;) what i can do is to figure out the meaning from machanical translation. < 1165528936 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(japanese to korean translation is very excellent, and i know common mistakes by the translation.) < 1165529121 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you'll probably be pretty good at it, because my closest (mental) bridge is to Bengali. < 1165529130 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Korean *is* a CJK language so.... < 1165529212 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sobo.ruree.net/tmp/malbolge.txt this is my current translation (incomplete). < 1165529294 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: Couldn't find a font for 'Ryumin-Light-H' < 1165529294 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: Couldn't find a font for 'GothicBBB-Medium-H' < 1165529297 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guh. < 1165529304 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meant for scratch buffer, sorry. < 1165529304 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1165529342 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about this? < 1165529342 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://72.14.253.104/search?hl=ko&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.sakabe.i.is.nagoya-u.ac.jp%2F~nishida%2FDB%2Fpdf%2Fiizawa05ss2005-22.pdf&btnG=%EA%B2%80%EC%83%89&lr= < 1165529375 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google cache is enough for seeing pdfs without figures. < 1165529408 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. Google beats xpdf. < 1165529649 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1165530376 0 :ShadowHntr!i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr JOIN :#esoteric < 1165530431 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is going to be tough. I'll start in a bit on it with force. < 1165530441 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'll need an undisturbed atmosphere. < 1165531160 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, I found that the sorting problem I was trying to do to be just about possible. < 1165531186 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really did find the solution by trying to prove that none existed. < 1165531361 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=thematri@222-152-167-254.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1165531776 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h183.229.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1165532503 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tokigun: I'm very interested in that paper < 1165532533 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: So, how do you do it? < 1165532543 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgimeno, so do i. < 1165532622 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iizawa didn't mention actual construction of 99 bottles of beer program, but anyway it seems to be useful for programming in malbolge. < 1165532729 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already took advantage of a Google translation to find that the basis of Iizawa's method was 'data modules', but I'm interested in the details < 1165532735 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: I'll post is in a moe < 1165532737 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mo < 1165532775 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i didn't fully understand the idea too < 1165532860 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you seen my translation above? data module is discussed in chapter 4, and it is fully translated. take a look at it please ;) < 1165532866 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just saved your txt (Mozilla does not wrap text) < 1165532903 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrap text can be get by showing source... maybe < 1165532933 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this the guy's graduate paper? < 1165532943 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once translated, can i post the translation to wiki? < 1165532976 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X, seems not. i guess Iizawa is a professor and Sakabe et al. are grad students. < 1165532980 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tokigun: not even that way, I'm reading it with a different editor... and I guess the text is not free < 1165533001 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok then, because he refers to a compound word that translates as ``Senior Research''. < 1165533028 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, cannot be in public domain... i see. < 1165533061 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the aim of the paper is Malbolge in usage for programming protection. < 1165533066 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X, you mean a sentence shortly after sample malbolge program? < 1165533070 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tokigun: Yeah. < 1165533086 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After his "Hello World!" program. < 1165533141 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it should be translated "previous works" or something else, because it refers (for example) making cat program in malbolge and so on. < 1165533195 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Andrew Cooke and Lou Scheffer... < 1165533254 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I would've translated it as "In this senior research paper, I have found that Malbolge can produce some of the most feasibly difficult programs ever. Programming in Malbolge is not a widely known art" at least, that first paragraph. < 1165533307 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The paragraph directly below his hello world program. < 1165533330 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe correct. < 1165533374 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Translation is hard :/ < 1165533383 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'd confused if senior research means Iizawa's or other people's... nevermind.) < 1165533595 0 :ShadowHntr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1165533779 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a kinetic command? < 1165533795 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X, dynamic command? < 1165533799 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about that. < 1165533800 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the purpose that Iizawa uses as excuse (obfuscation) I like MiniSCule best... the inner loop does not look like an interpreter and noone would say the data manipulation is actually a program < 1165533818 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there something about inputting programs on the same line in Malbolge? < 1165533864 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The third bullet point in his list of difficulties I would translate as "It is difficult to write dynamic [Trans: Lit: kinetic] commands on the same line" < 1165533899 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've translated that to... < 1165533899 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Each instruction forces to rewrite the program, so it's hard to repeat same sequence of instructions. < 1165533909 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it refers to encryption < 1165533929 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :each instruction suffers a translation after being executed < 1165533937 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I will wait until the submission deadline before putting it online I think. < 1165533976 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, the Japanese says "dynamic write". < 1165533982 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had know idea what that meant. < 1165533984 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1165533988 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/know/no/ < 1165533995 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dynamically rewritten? < 1165534018 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses the normal verb for "to write". < 1165534077 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah. I'm taking a break :P < 1165534085 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One page of this, and it's intense. < 1165534090 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1165534118 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't feel too bad. If I was an average Japanese student of my age, assuming American educational equivalence, it would be difficult to read also. < 1165534144 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm feeling writing in english is harder than reading japanese... *phew* < 1165534152 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1165534169 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the title is a great example between the differences between English and Japanese. < 1165534213 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obfuscated Programming Language Malbolge in Program Organization Method, literally. < 1165534504 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found interesting fact in the paper... read last sentence in chapter 8 (conclusion). < 1165534787 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.3 looks really promising < 1165535125 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric