< 1165104005 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1165104015 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :making disparate namespaces unnecessary < 1165104025 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's a performance hit. < 1165104054 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that the compiler takes under a second on the largest known BFM program, that's a moot point. < 1165104088 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_not_ optimizing would be trading cheap compiler performance for expensive programmer performance < 1165104094 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I like listening to Bran Cohen, who tells me to make sure that no part of your application is dependant on ``sane input defaults''. < 1165104112 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, IMO, it's more in the BF philosophy, but that's just me. < 1165104150 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would mean always using clean macros which cleared before and after use, as today < 1165104178 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One last thing to mention: the optimizing pass removes loops that won't ever run. < 1165104217 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, very easy with cleared cell handling < 1165104228 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works right. . . < 1165104268 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *was* going to do it when I first had cleared cell handling, but because it wasn't working well at all, I opted not to. < 1165105952 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to bed
< 1165106577 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"loops that won't ever run"? < 1165106631 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the loop variable happens to be zero < 1165106696 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless cleaning those up is occuring during runtime or something, how do you determine whether or not it will be zero at that point? < 1165106698 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather: can be statically determined to be zero at this point of the program < 1165106716 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the point of the cleared cell stack < 1165106753 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1165106763 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: We can determine that some cells, at some points, are guaranteed to be 0. . . < 1165106773 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At other points, the codeer can tell the compiler the same thing. < 1165109192 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1165109641 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1165115471 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1165117356 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate this stuff < 1165117359 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kidsprogramminglanguage.com/ < 1165117494 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1165120652 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks harder than python < 1165120673 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teaching kids to program is broken by defualt < 1165120681 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1165120687 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should take the initiative? < 1165120715 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1165120726 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not everyone is destined to be a coder, but starting early is a huge advantage. < 1165120736 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was easier when everything was monochrome and only ran BASIC and asm < 1165120761 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :today kids fulfill their computer torture quota fixing windows < 1165120785 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks just wrong. < 1165120851 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All one should do is give a kid the opportunity to become a programmer. . . Not. . . That. Eeeew. < 1165120871 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1165120878 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think BASIC remains a *great* way to introduce kids to programming. QBASIC is freeware now, I think... < 1165120891 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1165120896 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python > QBASIC < 1165120901 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't braindamage any more innocent kids < 1165120908 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I first coded on QBASIC < 1165120909 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python, IMO, is a decent language for introducing programming. < 1165120929 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basic's decent, but a kid who gets serious can't move on further. < 1165120938 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We certainly don't need to engineer special languages for kids < 1165120947 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell that to the coders who made the qbasic flight sim < 1165120967 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad it couldn't double buffer < 1165120993 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QBASIC is powerful for most things a kid could code on their own. DarkBASIC is a bit slow, but I think it's a pretty fantastic language. < 1165120996 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ivan`: That's comparable to a chess program in Brainfuck. . . Just because it can be done doesn't mean it *should*. < 1165121037 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: I'd be much more skillful if I had started with a 'serious' language in the first place, I feel. . . < 1165121053 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember longing for arrays when I coded in qbasic < 1165121063 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even though I didn't know what an array was back then) < 1165121079 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember longing for *functions* when I did Apple Basic (although I didn't know what it was then). < 1165121084 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember trying to do some parallel port communication without any debugging < 1165121096 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I barely could understand GOSUB < 1165121101 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never figured out GOSUB < 1165121111 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just calling a subroutine < 1165121118 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was no "GOSUB". < 1165121124 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOTO was it. < 1165121129 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was like "why would someone want to do this?" < 1165121137 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's gosub in qbasic < 1165121170 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BASIC taught me to build constructs by myself- I *invented* stacks and other data structures to build games. I designed my own GUI library because Basic didn't have any facilities for it apart from graphics primitives. If I had started with a language like Python, all I would have learned was how to use existing versions of these things. < 1165121190 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So teach kids asm or c < 1165121203 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/teach/introduce to/ < 1165121270 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember learning VB5. I hold that that forever crippled any ability to make GUIs by hand < 1165121286 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :owch < 1165121316 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember being forced to learn VB6 so that my *dad* could pass the damned class. < 1165121337 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've since rm -rf'd it) < 1165121351 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never really liked VB, mainly because the GUI portions always seemed to get in my way when I wanted to get actual work done. I'd have preferred trusty DarkBASIC any day. < 1165121380 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hated it with a passion, even then. < 1165121404 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you probably never understood it. < 1165121427 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's what *caused* me to hate it with a passion. . . < 1165121465 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't my first programming language. . . < 1165121875 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite aspect of BASIC was that you could "escape" from the language- you could start loading and calling assembly or using pointers if you wanted to. It became as powerful a language as you wanted it to be. < 1165121961 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could (in theory) do psuedo-machine code. . . < 1165121981 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Large amounts of POKEs could do it. :p < 1165122019 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never used another interpreted language that gave you so much power over the machine. < 1165122075 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*echm* C interpreter. < 1165122424 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python + embedded C < 1165122427 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`$=`;$_=\%!;($_)=/(.)/;$==++$|;($.,$/,$,,$\,$",$;,$^,$#,$~,$*,$:,@%)=( < 1165122427 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$!=~/(.)(.).(.)(.)(.)(.)..(.)(.)(.)..(.)......(.)/,$"),$=++;$.++;$.++; < 1165122427 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$_++;$_++;($_,$\,$,)=($~.$"."$;$/$%[$?]$_$\$,$:$%[$?]",$"&$~,$#,);$,++ < 1165122428 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;$,++;$^|=$";`$_$\$,$/$:$;$~$*$%[$?]$.$~$*${#}$%[$?]$;$\$"$^$~$*.>&$=` < 1165122441 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And people say Perl isn't an esoteric programming language. < 1165122453 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the worst case example < 1165122510 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Forth < 1165122525 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: wtf is that < 1165122552 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ivan`: How do you embed C in python? < 1165122561 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't call FORTH a good language for beginners, bsmntbombdood < 1165122562 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: It outputs "Just another Perl hacker". < 1165122577 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Why not? < 1165122683 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood, http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:LcJmrOj-b1sJ:old.scipy.org/documentation/weave+python+weave&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1 < 1165122713 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :part of http://www.scipy.org/ < 1165122728 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1165122740 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it do it? < 1165122750 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno. < 1165122799 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weave.inline() compiles and executes < 1165122812 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :their idiotic webpage is broken < 1165122812 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:8tUB6cC5RsUJ:old.scipy.org/documentation/weave/weaveusersguide.html+python+weave&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2 < 1165122840 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you're asking about the perl monstrosity < 1165122870 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I was asking about the python+c < 1165123003 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries weave
< 1165123080 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and it doesn't work < 1165123090 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1165123113 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of trying DarWine this morning, < 1165123129 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it couldn't even run the copy of notepad.exe it came with. < 1165123853 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1165123929 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b190/MissMaryMack/pics/Cool_Shit/Kitties/KittyHate.jpg < 1165123940 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION laughs heartily
< 1165125902 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'night everyone. < 1165126472 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1165126604 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1165126882 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1165127029 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1165131832 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1165132799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1165132800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1165134049 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Leading Edge IRC" < 1165135426 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1165140683 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-87-103.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1165148157 0 :Eidolos!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1165151592 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ik zen der is mee weg" < 1165154392 0 :jix!n=jix@L62e6.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1165155178 0 :jix_!n=jix@L630f.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1165156198 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1165161862 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1165162447 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1165164797 0 :CakeProphet_!n=CakeProp@h42.241.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1165164799 0 :CakeProphet_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CakeProphet < 1165165498 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines RodgerTheGreat as Santa Claus.
< 1165165579 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1165165635 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, I mean "Ho Ho Ho" < 1165165643 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes! There you go! < 1165166148 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* i used to think of myself as a linux fan. but now that i'm accidentally using windows and IE i am starting to get so annoyed at certain anti-IE webpages that i want to stay with IE just out of stubborness. < 1165166171 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shudders.
< 1165166182 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was never anti-IE, but that's no reason to stick with an anathema. < 1165166298 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah! My intuitive asymptotic ordering on a set of asymptotically strictly-increasing functions is not transitive! < 1165166334 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah indeed < 1165166338 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha. Order it better. < 1165166347 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although why it needs to be transitive is anyone's guess. < 1165166367 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, otherwise it is not an ordering. < 1165166379 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doh. < 1165166389 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know? I feel sorta bad when someone in #scheme says they've been wrangling with a homework problem for 5 hours and I can think up a solution in a few minutes. < 1165166406 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, maybe the guy is just very stupid, but whatever. < 1165166454 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel the same when I go to a lecture and it turns out to be a 1-hour explanation of the obvious. < 1165166462 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you know, half of everybody is more stupid than average :) < 1165166471 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this guy's in a college CS class. < 1165166479 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean.... that's what the real scary part is to me. < 1165166505 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my formally assessed questions consists of ordering 25 functions by their asymptotic behaviour. :-( < 1165166510 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it would be easy < 1165166572 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now that I'm seeing, the differences between CL and Scheme are very very pedagogic in certain places. < 1165166583 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know several people in CS that honestly have no business programming < 1165166591 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if the functions are arbitrary it is probably impossible to do nicely. < 1165166656 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if they are all o(...) each other in some direction then that should give you an ordering. < 1165166687 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are all strictly-increasing after some point < 1165166697 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that won't help. < 1165166725 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could still be dipping above and below each other indefinitely. < 1165166730 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAICT, they in fact have an ordering < 1165166812 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course if they eventually don't cross each other then you can use the eventual order < 1165166869 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the problem with CS is that the average starting salary for that field is extremely high, so some people choose the major for the money. Hopefully, those people will switch majors after the first year or two. < 1165167061 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll tell you, it's pretty frustrating trying to help someone whose only coding experience is a one-semester class in VB code in Java. Some people just don't get it, and probably never will. < 1165167118 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-923fe155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1165167325 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1165167620 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is suprised that a certain function turns out to be constant
< 1165169949 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming classes just make stupid people who can't code think that they can < 1165170051 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, true. < 1165170087 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes more than a class to learn to be a programmer. If you aren't devoting a fair amount of your free time to coding, you'll never be good at it. < 1165170107 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1165170339 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/coding/anything < 1165170607 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should do some of those coding contests < 1165170678 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done a few < 1165170737 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good one? < 1165173499 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1165175099 0 :Eidolos!n=Sartak@c-66-30-121-142.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1165175883 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1165177049 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@24.55.113.24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1165179191 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-110-120.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1165180351 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1165181572 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes for pizza.
< 1165181615 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun < 1165181653 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION yells at bitlbee
< 1165181716 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:30 [localhost] -!- *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x080d3f18 *** < 1165181721 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bastard. < 1165181864 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha. Garbage collection bug. < 1165182040 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun, garbage collection < 1165182076 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone here heard of jMemorize? < 1165182133 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The magic words are "identify password" < 1165182149 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :identify password < 1165182158 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That kills bitlbee. < 1165182164 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, really? < 1165182178 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme try it. < 1165182213 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it does that for me. . . < 1165182225 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/password/your_password_here/, BTW. < 1165182235 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1165182262 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1165182337 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha, bitlbee < 1165182355 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, does anyone here use rcirc and want to compare it to erc? < 1165182370 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha, erc < 1165182395 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you use? < 1165182406 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You either use irssi or XChat if you are on *Nix. I assure you. < 1165182472 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1165182484 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, xchat < 1165182497 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and irssi sometimes < 1165183061 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/ErcChess < 1165183280 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1165183764 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1165185445 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1165188492 0 :dibic0!n=sanil@dhcp-228-62.eastdorm.uic.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1165188567 0 :dibic0!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1165190269 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric