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18:57:52 -!- anonfunc has joined. 19:14:29 RodgerTheGreat: hi 19:14:51 * SimonRC re-promotes: http://intihuatani.usc.edu/cloud/flowing/ 19:15:00 It's fun and addictive. 19:19:00 -!- tgwizard has quit (Remote closed the connection). 19:23:23 -!- anonfunc has quit. 19:27:12 -!- anonfunc has joined. 19:27:25 -!- anonfunc has quit (Remote closed the connection). 20:11:11 -!- Asztal has changed nick to god__. 20:18:46 -!- god__ has changed nick to Asztal. 20:58:48 ooooh 20:59:05 an HP49G has a forth-like language built in 20:59:31 * xor begins to doubt his choice on a TI-89 21:00:37 -!- Sgeo has joined. 21:00:49 :/ 21:05:02 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 21:05:54 whowas lilo 21:05:58 * CakeProphet ahems. 21:06:00 hehe 21:06:42 -!- Sgeo has quit ("Ex-Chat"). 21:08:01 -!- Sgeo has joined. 21:12:15 grr I want an hp59g 21:14:45 * RodgerTheGreat strokes his HP11C lovingly. 21:17:50 Is that one of the ones with a 4 deep stack? 21:19:21 -!- cmeme has quit (Remote closed the connection). 21:20:00 -!- cmeme has joined. 21:46:10 xor: Yeah, if I had the choice, I would've used an HP in the beginning. 21:46:44 But my math teacher last year demanded HPs, and this year our math teacher does most of the examples on the TI (not that I couldn't read the manual push-comes-to-shove this year). 21:47:22 Errr. 21:47:26 s/HPs/TIs/ 21:47:40 -!- pikhq has joined. 21:49:15 xor: http://www.quartus.net/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/ColorForth 21:49:22 That's some real potential fun. 21:49:26 * pikhq lives again! 21:52:00 Forth is pretty esoteric 21:52:29 No, merely aging. 21:53:45 http://www.colorforth.com/ide.html 21:53:55 pikhq has the right of it. 21:54:00 Compare Malbolge and Forth. 21:54:09 I'd safely say Malbolge is ``pretty esoteric''. 21:55:55 compare ORK and forth, for that matter :) 21:56:13 Well, hmmm.... 21:56:19 Forth does, in some instances, sound like English. 21:56:56 : bf-ptr-inc ( bfptr -- bfptr ) dup bf-tape-size @ = if bf-tape-grow 1+ else 1+ then ; 21:57:02 That's one of my most English words. 21:58:01 Although if you expand all the words to their English ``pronunciations'', it is pretty much English. 21:59:08 colorForth looks awesome. 21:59:14 English. . . With a stack. 21:59:14 Think about that control. 21:59:24 pikhq: More logical than English already is ;) 21:59:51 I've recently been doing some improvements on BFM. . . 21:59:57 * xor loves his ti-89 22:00:01 The new BFM "Hello, World" program: 22:00:09 string foo "Hello, world!\n" 1 22:00:18 outs fooend 22:00:23 ;) 22:00:48 I've put Quartus Forth on my Palm, and it's fun :) 22:00:54 I should write a BF interpreter. 22:01:08 ... Or just use the one I already wrote .... 22:01:24 pikhq: Oooh. Strings, huh? 22:03:01 Razor-X: Yeah. 22:03:19 here like no one uses HPs... 22:03:20 C-style strings, in essence. . . Cheap, simple, and effective. 22:03:25 jix: I use one. 22:03:27 only casio and TIs 22:03:37 TI only in my school, pretty much. 22:03:42 i meant here in the germany schools 22:03:48 (that i know of) 22:03:58 It's very school-dependant. 22:03:58 My HS calc teacher hates TIs. . . 22:04:03 In California, it's almost all TIs. 22:04:11 (Probably because we're close to Texas.) 22:04:19 So, he's got a bunch of HPs that he loans out every year. 22:04:19 Razor-X: here it's very teacher dependet 22:04:36 i think ti's are pretty nice 22:04:36 The rest of the district uses TIs. . . 22:04:46 I'm glad that my teacher likes RPN. :) 22:04:57 you can do that on some TIs too 22:05:09 I hate school 22:05:11 i sometimes use rpn to enter thingst that i would mess up when i'd use a lot of ( and ) 22:05:13 I think I'll spend a portion of my saved up lunch money to trade in my TI for an HP when I graduate. 22:05:15 http://www.paxm.org/symbulator/download/rpn.html 22:05:17 jix: Yeah, but it's native for HPs. 22:05:30 Razor-X: I think I might get one 22:05:33 TI-89 is pretty nice, though. 22:05:35 pikhq: but for the most things i enter i prefer the normal notation 22:05:39 TI-83 isn't. 22:05:49 I can't use a ti-83 22:05:52 pikhq: and i get all features of the CAS from within the rpn thing so it's like native 22:05:57 xor: yeah that's the thing i use 22:05:58 They are just too terrible 22:06:14 My dad complained to the principal for having to buy me a graphing calculator. 22:06:17 jix: What is? 22:06:23 xor: that rpn thing 22:06:33 He argued that he used a slide rule until his 3rd year of college where he failed a class and bought his first calculator to compete. 22:06:38 oh nice 22:06:48 jix: Does it work good? 22:06:48 So, a TI-83 was the best I was going to get out of him. 22:06:54 xor: it does 22:07:02 Before that, I used a TI-22X (more-than-a-decade discontinued) 22:07:03 . 22:07:15 Was my dad's first calculator out of college. 22:07:17 Razor-X: I recommend the slide rule. 22:07:28 pikhq: I've become pretty quick with it, actually. 22:07:45 when i'm not allowed to use the ti-98 (like programmable and or graphic disallowed) i use a ti-30-eco-rs or something 22:08:02 slide rulesrock 22:08:09 I love my slide rule 22:08:10 I still have the TI-22X. I really loved that calculator. 22:08:10 i like it... very simple but does what i want 22:08:11 jix: I've been using RPN for a few years (yay, dc!). . . The fact that my graphing calculator now does RPN makes me very, very happy. 22:08:19 * pikhq needs to get a slide rule sometime 22:08:22 I did my first SAT I with it, and it was a fine calculator. 22:08:23 pikhq: What calc? 22:08:42 xor: HP-49G+ 22:08:53 pikhq: do you like it? 22:08:53 (Although back when I took the SAT I, it wasn't designed like a marathon test.) 22:09:09 *first took 22:09:12 xor: Except for a buggy keypad, it's rather nice. 22:09:27 (the current model, the HP-50G, has that issue fixed) 22:09:40 this one http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/TI-30_eco_RS.jpg << the batteries are like never going to be empty 22:10:38 and as soon as there is enough light to be able to recognize the digits on the display it's enough for it to get enough power throught the solar thing 22:10:51 Oh. We have one of those too. 22:11:27 xor: Did you check out colorForth? 22:11:52 -!- Sgeo has quit (Remote closed the connection). 22:12:16 * pikhq goes to fix his _string and @ procs to not need a location argument 22:13:29 -!- Sgeo has joined. 22:17:10 -!- jix has quit ("Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht"). 22:25:20 Razor-X: I am now 22:26:20 ha ha 22:26:27 ? 22:27:14 Don't see the point 22:27:27 It's Forth on the metal! 22:27:34 How can you not appreciate that?! 22:29:16 on the metal? 22:29:34 Pseudonym for total control. 22:29:42 hmm 22:30:19 Imagine turning 486 machines into embedded systems for cheap. 22:30:44 rather use a more refined os 22:31:03 I wouldn't call this an OS even, per-say. 22:32:02 * pikhq has made Brainfuck nicer still with BFM. 22:32:40 With 3 lines, one can have "Hello, World!" with BFM. :) 22:32:50 * pikhq is going to clean some stuff and make the new tarball 22:33:42 colorForth is just enough ASM to simulate a flat memory model for a Forth interpreter/kernel. 22:34:01 Which is why there's code for the floppy driver and the hard-disk driver and all. 22:35:18 A microkernel I guess the term would be. 22:36:22 And I'll bet someone can write a QWERTY driver for the Dvorak uninitiated. 22:37:07 Sorry; that's 4 lines. 22:37:23 Need to source both ^outs.bfm and ^stdcons.bfm 22:38:30 With BF with strings, it's >"Hello, World!"[<]>[.>] 22:39:36 source ^stdcons.bfm 22:39:41 source ^outs.bfm 22:39:53 string hello! "Hello, World!\n" 22:39:57 outs hello!end 22:40:02 I win 22:40:30 But I've got a full macro system. 22:40:35 And *it works*. ;) 22:41:17 (it could easily compile to BF with strings: >"Hello, World!\n"[<]>[>.]) 22:42:36 I know 22:42:40 :P 22:45:06 'Sides; my solution works anywhere where there are 8-bit wrapping cells (could work *anywhere* if I bother allowing for conditional compilation based upon cell size and wrapping/non). 22:47:01 It be easy to write a strings bf -> bf compiler 22:49:04 'Bout as easy as it was for me to add the string command to BFM. 22:55:11 grr I can't get this rpn proggy to work in tiemu 23:05:54 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)). 23:07:31 -!- Sgeo has joined. 23:54:31 well 23:54:43 http://www.paxm.org/symbulator/download/rpn.html screwed my calculator