< 1161734401 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My contribs are sort-of inspired by a language I'm working on < 1161734406 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, not SWAP) < 1161734509 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1161734509 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall call it. . Esoterica! < 1161734638 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINE //#<>+SWAP([{}]) < 1161734663 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1161734682 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does QUINE just cause the statement given to be WHINEd, or future statements too? < 1161735015 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do bit sinks interact with vars-are-stacks? < 1161739215 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h9.231.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161740627 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1161740730 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11faaoj.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1161740874 0 :twobitsprite!n=isaac@cpe-069-134-231-214.nc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1161740909 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey... I was just reading some guys rant about Table Oriented Programming, and I was wondering if anyone knows of such a language? (he didn't mention anything, I guess he was just dreaming out loud, or something) < 1161740924 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Table Oriented? < 1161740936 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's look at a Table of Opcodes? ;D < 1161740942 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sorry :P) < 1161740990 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1161741008 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.geocities.com/tablizer/top.htm < 1161741045 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Table oriented programming? < 1161741058 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If this has to do with MKBL-LN,, < 1161741059 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1161741084 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1161741087 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1161741098 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uggh. Why does Sourceforge use Flash ads? < 1161741179 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate flash ads... use flashblock < 1161741239 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Table Oriented seems to cater to a limited programming sector, but I can see it being useful. < 1161741261 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DB programming (or anything making heavy use of a large DB) is something I would never want to do -- ever. Personally. < 1161741265 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds interesting < 1161741330 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone else hate the term "AJAX"? < 1161741492 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots. < 1161741543 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry, random thought) < 1161741560 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah. This channel rarely is on topic. < 1161741654 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man.... I hate it when I get the urge to program, open up vi, and stare at it for hours... < 1161741676 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only do I not know what I want to program, I don't even know what language I want to write it in... < 1161741680 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because you use Vi. < 1161741767 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1161741784 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1161741801 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fires up nano hoping for inspiration :P < 1161741894 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a downgrade. < 1161741898 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Upgrade to Emacs. < 1161741922 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an Emacs? :P < 1161741936 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Editor MACroS. < 1161741960 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh... I thought it was Escape Meta Alt Control Shift... < 1161742017 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits to be kicked < 1161742121 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Escape isn't used in Emacs (unless you don't have a Meta key), Meta is used, Alt is bound to Meta by default, Control is used, and what editor doesn't use Shift? < 1161742133 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'd get: MCS or ACS, not EMACS. ;) < 1161742146 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're just splitting hairs < 1161742193 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the same token, Vi should be called "Esc :qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbn Esc". < 1161742217 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't see (perhaps for my own shotcomings, having only two hands and all) how anyone can think C-n and C-p are more efficient than the arrow keys -- which of course are much less efficient than hjkl < 1161742255 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-n and C-p don't require you to move your hands from the main row of the keyboard. < 1161742289 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, well, holding control for minutes at a time hurts my pinky... it's still a stretch < 1161742291 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And using hjkl requires you to hit Esc before you can edit. < 1161742310 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which requires moving your hand off the keyboard again. < 1161742319 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esc doesn't require you to move you hand from the home row either... its about as far as control < 1161742339 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl is to the left of a. < 1161742374 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I never bought into the idea that it's not emacs fault, but rather my keyboard manufacturer's fault < 1161742391 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also a GNU Screen and Ratpoison user. . . < 1161742403 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assure you; having the Ctrl key there is the nicest way to have things. < 1161742410 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I know I can remap the capslock key, but I can also remap it to esc < 1161742449 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you *really* want to do the Vi thing, Emacs contains a Vi implementation. < 1161742462 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever I'm in emacs I can never stop thinking "gee, I wish I could _toggle_ the ctrl key", and then remember that vi does that < 1161742474 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: then why should I use emacs to emulate vi? < 1161742517 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trust me, I'm not in a holy war... I gave emacs a thorough try... I used it exclusively for 1 month trying to get used to it, and it just didn't work out < 1161742578 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now that vim7 can match parens like emacs does, it lost the whole reason I even attempted to try emacs < 1161742770 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :twobitsprite: You can use the arrow keys in Emacs. < 1161742778 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. It's quite crazy. < 1161742783 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1161742786 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enough with that. < 1161742871 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: I know you can... that isn't the point... but I agree... enough :P < 1161742916 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously though... I'm actually curious... what's the big push to use emacs? < 1161742972 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :None. < 1161742982 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We all use our own editors. < 1161742988 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with gedit or kate or something? < 1161742992 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck, you can use Notepad, but I mean, whatever. < 1161742995 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: exactly < 1161743016 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :twobitsprite: You use free software, so you're not sinning against Emacs. ;) < 1161743017 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1161743032 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least, you're not sinning with your Vim usage) < 1161743046 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses Opera web browser < 1161743048 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ducks < 1161743051 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: right... but it seemed to me like you were saying that I _should_ use emacs < 1161743059 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Infidel! < 1161743073 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :twobitsprite: I just think Emacs is a much better editor. < 1161743077 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: do you really? is it that much better, I've never used it... < 1161743079 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We all have our tastes. < 1161743084 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: on what scale? < 1161743101 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the scale of "I like it, damn it". :p < 1161743105 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opera sometimes has issues resolving DNS < 1161743110 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that might just be me < 1161743113 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is a *very* subjective test) < 1161743116 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opera > Firefox + 10000000000 < 1161743117 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But bookmark handling is great < 1161743119 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO. < 1161743120 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ok.. I was just honestly curious if there were some objective reasons to use emacs over others < 1161743129 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like integrated email < 1161743146 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to like feeds < 1161743167 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fast Forward is nifty < 1161743174 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fast forward? < 1161743177 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(< Opera (- Firefox '(All that is good in the world))) < 1161743204 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRB < 1161743214 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best thing about Firefox: With Conkeror, it's got 100% Emacs bindings. :) < 1161743235 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1161743253 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And with Conkeror and an entry in your config file, it has Vi bindings instead. < 1161743266 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles < 1161743353 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1161743372 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a button next to the forward button < 1161743390 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Opera sees a link that seems to go to a "next" page, Fast Forward takes you there < 1161743396 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shift-X is also fast forward < 1161743415 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1161743427 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there is a firefox plugin for that :P < 1161743435 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It apparently can bring you across the images on a page < 1161743439 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just hit the number for the "next" link. < 1161743451 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(numbered links: :)) < 1161743454 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it remembers from the page that the image is on where the next image is < 1161743465 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, Opera doesn't require that for Fast Forward < 1161743477 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, yeah, yeah. . . < 1161743493 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, as Opera isn't free software, I must reject it. < 1161743538 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Purist fundie < 1161743547 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.< < 1161743561 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Willfully enslaved. < 1161743568 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.< < 1161743581 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm surprised you use firefox then... it has quite a bit of copyright embumberance < 1161743583 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"enslaved"? < 1161743588 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox eats memory shamelessly. < 1161743613 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: I haven't noticed that moreso than other browsers < 1161743614 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Firefox instance of 5 tabs now uses almost as much RAM as my Opera instance of 35 tabs. < 1161743625 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: hmm < 1161743627 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X, I've also noticed leakage < 1161743634 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe flash plugin thing? < 1161743639 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew < 1161743647 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely remember hearing rumors about it < 1161743706 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :twobitsprite: Care to tell me of the copyright encumberance? < 1161743719 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's some *trademark* encumberance, but not copyright encumberance) < 1161743737 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Try Firefox 2.0. ;) < 1161743753 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ahh, that's what I meant < 1161743755 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a 2.0? < 1161743764 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Came out a few hours ago. < 1161743769 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: yeah, just came out a couple days ago < 1161743772 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me they're getting back to their roots. < 1161743772 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh < 1161743773 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is going to upgrade to Ubuntu 6.10 this weekend < 1161743778 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought I saw something about it yesterday < 1161743782 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much lower memory usage. < 1161743785 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was the unofficial release? < 1161743797 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :twobitsprite: Some idiot linked to the FTP server as they were uploading binaries. < 1161743799 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably FF2 will be there < 1161743799 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Around 0.7, they completely changed focus away from a small and fast browser to Replacing Mozilla. < 1161743809 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.8, rather. < 1161743817 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION used firefox since 0.9 iirc < 1161743825 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION only recently switched to Opera < 1161743826 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION started on Phoenix < 1161743826 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was a faithful Phoenix user from 0.2. < 1161743830 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phoenix? < 1161743840 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: original name < 1161743843 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION still has a mild fondness for Ye Ol' Suite < 1161743843 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The predecessor to Firefox's predecessor, Firebird. < 1161743850 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :went from pheonix to firebird to firefox < 1161743873 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.9 was the version number I decided Firefox is not working out. < 1161743881 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been using Opera since around that time. < 1161743886 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :konqueror is alright < 1161743894 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ducks (?) < 1161744004 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats a coupld of crickets < 1161744266 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION used to use Konqueror < 1161744522 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION updates to FF2.0 < 1161744539 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the major things done in FF2 is a reduction in memory footprint, BTW. < 1161744545 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What version of GTK does FF2 compile against? < 1161744571 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTK2, I believe. < 1161744600 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you've got GNOME running, you've got the right libraries. :p < 1161744607 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't :) < 1161744612 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What version of GTK2.0 I mean. < 1161744661 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does "Damned if I know" count as an answer? < 1161744697 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems my *current* GTK version is GTK 2.8.20-r1 (soon to be updated to 2.20.6). < 1161744709 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1161744725 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One issue I've got; the version in Portage is 2RC3, not 2.0. . . < 1161744742 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well; the difference is in the name alone. ;) < 1161744846 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I just found a webpage with a flash applet which has higher system requirements that I cannot meat < 1161744877 0 :twobitsprite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sad when a _webpage_ will jitter and sputter on my computer < 1161744890 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTK 2.4 isn't that old. Gah. < 1161744891 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I've just got to wait on the heinous compile time (Gentoo, you know). < 1161744896 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bloddy developers you. < 1161744933 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahah. < 1161744948 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems that they list GTK 2.0 or better as a requirment. < 1161744959 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray. < 1161744959 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.4 counts as 2.0 or better. ;) < 1161744985 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They. . . Still support 2.2.14. < 1161744999 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Linux 2.2.14) < 1161745022 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.4 counts as 2.0 or later :) < 1161745390 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm... notepad < 1161745396 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get linux... or something... < 1161745400 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU/Linux. < 1161745405 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... and how do you make .tars in windows? I can't seem to do so. < 1161745408 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEMANTICS < 1161745410 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux ain't all that useful without the rest of the OS. < 1161745436 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux isn't useful without its liscence distribution? < 1161745443 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(|217|51z3 |\/|3. < 1161745454 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's not useful without the rest of the operating system. < 1161745477 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right... < 1161745482 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... back to the matter at hand. < 1161745485 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.tar in Windows < 1161745498 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have been given a challenge... show me how to format tarballs in Windows. < 1161745498 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7zip. < 1161745510 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1161745513 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wassat? < 1161745542 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A free software compression utility, with support for tarballs, among other formats. < 1161745690 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, Hmm... would I want 32.bit or X64 installation? < 1161745714 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Depends; do you have a 32 bit or 64 bit Windows installation? < 1161745725 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrugs < 1161745727 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got XP./ < 1161745731 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't remember the bittage. < 1161745740 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_-' < 1161746125 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, Wow.... tarballs are insanely small... < 1161746139 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: When compressed, yes. < 1161746151 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bzip2 is a really nice algorithm. . . < 1161746160 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7zip's implementation of Gzip is also rather nice. < 1161747926 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheAfk < 1161749235 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1161751593 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1161751733 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@about/copyleft/user/bsmntbombdood JOIN :#esoteric < 1161752126 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1161756774 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1161756826 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@about/copyleft/user/bsmntbombdood JOIN :#esoteric < 1161757052 0 :Arrogant!i=Paragon@244.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161758388 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161762500 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Name a useful, popular, developer friendly, and cheap embedded platform. < 1161762531 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portable please :P < 1161762908 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PIC < 1161762937 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make sure to get one that SDCC supports. < 1161762992 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, PIC isn't strictly a "platorm" ... it's just a chip :P < 1161762999 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You kinda have to roll-your-own platform ;) < 1161763029 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then, Gregor disappeared, leaving the conversation in a useless state. < 1161763030 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1161763044 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO! GregorR-L! COME BACK < 1161763199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1161763200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1161771426 0 :ihope__!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161771438 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1161771495 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How 'bout your suggestions, ihope ? < 1161771506 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1161772640 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Name a useful, popular, developer friendly, and cheap embedded platform. < 1161774682 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's anything like normal computing, you can only have 3 out of 4. < 1161774750 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :often only POPULAR < 1161775376 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1161777698 0 :jix!n=jix@L6214.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1161782378 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Busybox/Linux. ;) < 1161782622 0 :RodgerTheAfk!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheGreat < 1161782777 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: ooh- the PICAxe! < 1161782794 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps the Audurino. < 1161783468 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er... Arduino. < 1161783480 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://todbot.com/blog/2006/09/25/arduino-the-basic-stamp-killer/ < 1161783492 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can never remember how to spell the damn thing. < 1161794473 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@192.55.60.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1161794760 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1161795152 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"int main (char *argv[]) {" < 1161795155 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wibbles < 1161795241 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see there was some question about QUINE. < 1161795280 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i certainly intended it to refer to future statements; in fact i did not intend QUINE by itself to run at all. < 1161795311 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, i was obviously influenced by just having invented UNDO etc. < 1161798340 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how he could fix a bug in basm. . . < 1161798377 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you edit the source code for basm, then re-compile if necessary. < 1161798382 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XP < 1161798487 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_-' < 1161798514 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :recompilations are unnecessary < 1161798547 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it stands right now, it is broken when you have >>> runs longer than 255. < 1161798797 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.72-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.8.1b2/0000000000]" < 1161798827 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would like you to include the macros i am working on now, it should make the whole thing easier to read < 1161798841 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i can look at it afterwards < 1161798854 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soon as I see what macros you're working on, I'd be glad to. < 1161798866 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything to make bfm saner is a good thing, IMO. ;) < 1161798996 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay. . . < 1161799004 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It now handles large pointer movements correctly. < 1161799015 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, it's grown a bit because of that. < 1161799019 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you found the bug < 1161799065 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without the initial GPL header, it's 5419 characters. . . < 1161799078 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Still* the smallest Brainfuck compiler out there that I know of. ;) < 1161799138 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches someone type chinese. < 1161799154 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn that system is unsuitable for typing. < 1161799164 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd imagine so. < 1161799190 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd cause the inventor to turn in his grave. < 1161799255 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAICT, they type a latinish transliteration, which causes a box of chinese characters to popup, and they select the correct one using number keys. < 1161799365 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1161799801 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if that is so unsuitable, provided you can press the number immediately if you know it. < 1161799919 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be the best you can do given the chinese character system < 1161799980 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose do < 1161800037 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand i have heard the dictionaries are organized by numbers of strokes, they probably have a typing system based on that too < 1161800121 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he, that means chinese would have to be typed in a different manner dependent on whether you know the pronunciation or the symbol :) < 1161802441 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smallest brainfuck compiler written in brainfuck? < 1161802504 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. Damn thing is *still* broken. < 1161802535 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you think "<<<<" has 5 characters in it, that is. < 1161802877 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed it. . . :) < 1161802881 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dbf2c.b is 874 bytes long, but doesn't do optimization or linefeed translation... < 1161802906 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1161802914 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, that's a tiny compiler. < 1161802932 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is 5362 bytes long, but it does optimization and EOF=0. < 1161802956 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And could *easily* be modified to handle linefeed translation. < 1161802980 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been a long time since I changed it, so the code-reading part is old and clunky. I could probably save a little bit by grafting on the code-reading part from dbfi.b but I am still hoping to find something better and then use it for both programs. < 1161803074 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ever find time I'll see how I can do on an optimizing one. < 1161803130 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have this giant list of postponed brainfuck-related projects :) < 1161803207 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh uh, we've got competition ;) < 1161803214 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is afk, going to give blood < 1161803274 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hopes esolanging isn't transmissible this way. < 1161803383 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code-reading part on mine is just a wee bit inelegant. < 1161803551 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dbc: That's some nice work. < 1161804223 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: there is now a new version of http://home.nvg.org/~oerjan/stdcons.bfm, more than twice the size, including addcons* and subcons* macros < 1161804233 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a public domain notice < 1161804353 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using those macros should clean up basm.bfm a bit < 1161804431 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to keep both to have a shorter version with just cons* macros. < 1161804450 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, please include the public domain notice in the smaller one < 1161804498 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1161804886 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all in stdcons.bfm, BTW. < 1161804902 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1161804943 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that starts to worry me about the source command: am i right that it doesn't check whether a file has been sourced before? < 1161804997 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, the file move.bfm is going to be sourced several times in an ordinary program < 1161804997 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ba.b is now at 528. . . < 1161805017 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't check that; it just assumes that you're going to use it sanely. < 1161805033 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would of course be a bigger problem if this happened with stdcons. < 1161805036 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(macros being sourced again just redefine the macro) < 1161805047 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5286. . . < 1161805058 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would it? < 1161805076 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, just inefficient i guess < 1161805095 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it is a much larger file and so much more wasted work < 1161805116 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just assume Tcl handles this sanely. ;) < 1161805178 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it makes any attempt to fix the problem in general. < 1161805243 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl, I *think*, handles multiple sources sanely (source is used in Tcl packages). . . < 1161805270 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION leaves soon; new BFM tarball and Basm tarball will be up soon after I return home < 1161805320 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could just be it uses the same hack as C with #ifndef ALREADY_LOADED < 1161805757 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161805809 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: you now are acknowledged in stdcons.bfm < 1161805824 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1161805828 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that < 1161805887 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the part of the stdlib of pikhq's BFM that contains macros for constant values < 1161805899 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh, cool :) < 1161805992 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were generated from Brainfuck_constants, and i believe most of the brainfuck originals were your work < 1161806219 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1161806223 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, Tcl load lists as a bug that it can load a file multiple times < 1161806245 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :system-dependently < 1161807336 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@167.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1161807731 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1161814932 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great. . . < 1161814948 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LostKng now works in a very. . . Odd manner in basm. < 1161814978 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Your score has just gone up by 1 point] < 1161814986 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should *not* be output when you hit "q"! < 1161815019 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION curses loudly at the damned thing < 1161815272 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161815900 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1161815971 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even figure out what the bug is in basm now. < 1161816039 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scratch that; I've got a clue, and no idea how it occurs. < 1161816326 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1161816338 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what exactly does basm do? < 1161816347 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep confusing it with BFM < 1161816549 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are we not working on the factory language? < 1161816633 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It compiles Brainfuck to C, and is written in BFM. < 1161816696 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realises a way to refactor BASM significantly. . . < 1161816715 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basm < 1161816717 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. < 1161816816 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161816825 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't see it any more :/ < 1161816847 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why TF did Ubuntu just freeze??? < 1161816948 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: microsoft radiation < 1161816955 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1161816971 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did I miss since I asked "Why are we not working on the factory language" < 1161816993 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh n/m < 1161817058 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realises a way to make BFM nicer, though < 1161817274 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: sry i was very busy today and yesterday < 1161817283 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :had no time to work on it < 1161817302 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm quite shocked on how difficuilt it will be to implement that.... < 1161817546 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1161817585 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evil Sgeo! < 1161817589 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean that wasn't a design goal? < 1161817590 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Sgeo < 1161818166 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h26.228.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161818364 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: well i expected a difficuilt to implement langauge < 1161818373 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is ten times worse than my expections :| < 1161818388 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1161818559 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, is this my fault in any way? < 1161818589 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all submissions combined < 1161818607 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No innocent submissions? < 1161818620 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd think that pikhq's stuff is innocent >.< < 1161818654 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well combined with my threading they arn't easy to implement < 1161818713 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably we will all help with the implementation < 1161818722 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm not helping unless it's Python < 1161818745 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't know python < 1161818779 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dangit! I really wanted to help.. < 1161818793 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1161818799 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we need a spec first anyway... < 1161818829 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should write the spec on Wiki < 1161818838 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1161819149 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(> _ >)