< 1161216001 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ is HORRIBLE when it comes to unneccessary programmer overhead. OOP becomes so abstract it becomes a theory of its own to work with. < 1161216134 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess my real complaint about the CS world is why it's attempting to create a dogma and raise a bunch of new coders that swear by one-and-only-one style, taking out the entire fun part of programming. < 1161216228 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agreed. < 1161216242 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're pushing OOP as the one paradigm to rule them all. < 1161216245 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's ridiculous. < 1161216250 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly. < 1161216261 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm apalled that they teach OOP *theory* at a high school level. < 1161216284 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's so wrong to teach OO - it's useful. < 1161216293 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just not /the one/. < 1161216295 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a class devoted *only* to theory. < 1161216307 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's the only upper-level CS class the local rich private school has. < 1161216322 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's functional programming? Where's algorithms? Where's bit fields? Where's parsing/grammars? Where's logical style? < 1161216363 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They use Smalltalk, by the way. < 1161216394 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1161216402 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prepare for tomorrow with the language of yesterday :P < 1161216407 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1161216420 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1161216438 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, systems programming and algorithm programming is dying. So much so that I hypothesize that the OSS world will have a lack of new blood into systems programming because it's becoming so deprecated. < 1161216534 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: what good is functional programming? I've only really done procedural/OO < 1161216553 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I prefer the style, personally. It suits my idioms well. < 1161216581 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functional and procedural are my most comfortable places. I like OOP, but after a while it just starts hampering my coding style. < 1161216587 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, which types of programs is it suited for? < 1161216594 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Algorithms. < 1161216623 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you be more specific? < 1161216632 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... < 1161216639 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AI < 1161216646 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not just AI. < 1161216652 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm being specific, Razor-X. < 1161216656 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1161216657 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not complete. < 1161216671 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AI is one field in particular that functional programming shines in. < 1161216676 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's great with symbolic processing, parsing, mathematical simulation.... < 1161216703 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what you mean particularly by "mathematical simulation", but to the others I'll agree. < 1161216704 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first two are pretty much the same, huh? :P < 1161216722 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Simulate an ANN. It's just a bunch of formulas, right? < 1161216727 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tokenizing and parsing? Related :P < 1161216731 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AH, OK. < 1161216754 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, anything that has its theory solidly in mathematics and therefore its algorithms in mathematical formula will be more easily implementable by a functional language. < 1161216779 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely. < 1161216784 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotcha < 1161216788 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1161216819 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lisp specifically is very good with OOP in terms of ``high-fallutin'-OOP'', believe it or not. Check out Lisp's CLOS (Common Lisp Object System) and Scheme's Tiny CLOS. < 1161216828 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imperative languages are more tied to a sequence of operations, whereas function programming is more tied to the formulas and algorithms involved in the generation of solutions. < 1161216852 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codu.org/plof/ muahahaha :P < 1161216864 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1161216962 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My main problem with C is that I think pointers are shoddily implemented. I think they could make the abstraction cleaner, IMO. < 1161216995 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that I'd agree without some particulars. < 1161217002 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But definitely, I haven't found much to beat C at a low level. < 1161217085 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Are* there any other low-level languages save C? < 1161217092 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Other than ASM, duh.) < 1161217096 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :B? < 1161217103 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BASIC and POKE statements. < 1161217110 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. PL/1, Pascal ... < 1161217112 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm excluding B, FORTRAN, and ALGOL. < 1161217122 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And other languages from that era. < 1161217124 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1161217131 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C has dominated the area for obvious reasons. < 1161217133 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Hmmm. Pascal is low level? < 1161217150 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: True. < 1161217163 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, one could argue that Forth is even *more* low level than C :P. < 1161217166 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on your definition of low-level I guess ^^ < 1161217186 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Do you play directly with the memory, allocate memory, etc? < 1161217206 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the time. In Pascal? Idonno. < 1161217214 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1161217232 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you don't do that in C, either, you call a function 'malloc' which is usually defined by a combination of ASM and kernel garbage. < 1161217243 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that being able to load and execute arbitrary machinecode (or something that *becomes* machinecode) means you're officially low-level. < 1161217261 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, alright then. 'malloc'-level. < 1161217282 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even ASM using the Linux kernel is pretty high level compared to using only the BIOS. < 1161217295 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :POSIX-compatible kernels in general, I believe. < 1161217309 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely. < 1161217593 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One more C complaint: I don't know *what* K&R were smoking when they said that C was platform independant, but it's NOT. < 1161217690 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is exceptionally platform-independent, so long as we restrict ourselves to 8-bit imperative platforms. < 1161217721 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-bit and multiples thereof < 1161217758 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: by your definition then basica/gwbasic call statement makes it low level? :) < 1161217771 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly. < 1161217785 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basic is a high level language < 1161217787 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :POKE+CALL() = unlimited power < 1161217798 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1161217824 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads back.. oh you aid that already
< 1161217826 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :said < 1161217839 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way I see it, when you use those statements effectively, you have something pretty much as powerful as C, and a hell of a lot more fun to code in. < 1161217854 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you code in BASIC like *I* do, it's an esolang. :D < 1161217854 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :up to a point < 1161217858 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not always, again. < 1161217872 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was having a great time coding my 5200 basic compiler in quickbasic extended < 1161217877 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to each their own. < 1161217884 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least until I hit the 64k code page size limit < 1161217892 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm creating packets. I don't think anything but C, or seemingly Pascal, will be effective here. < 1161217917 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the project effectively ended < 1161217919 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm a big lover of modern distillations of BASIC. < 1161217947 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I split it off into two modules (or whatever they were called).. but then the code because a huge mess < 1161217977 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it was already.. .. so it became MORE of a mess ;) < 1161217977 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :modern distillations of BASIC meaning DarkBASIC, SmallBASIC, and the like? < 1161217989 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QuickBASIC is modern enough too. < 1161217992 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :visualbasic ftw < 1161217996 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1161218005 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ that was a joke ;) < 1161218010 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I hope so :D < 1161218012 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION convulses at the sound of the v-word
< 1161218034 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BitTorrent cheats :( < 1161218041 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It writes to file. It cheats. < 1161218086 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1161218094 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see.. I'd never fit in there.. I have win2003 installed in the other partition.. with vb, vc++ etc < 1161218129 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QBASIC was where I started a long time ago. It was definitely a lot of fun. < 1161218150 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Macintosh QBASIC was my first programming language. :) < 1161218152 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I started one of my friends on qbasic.. he is now a programmer for the university of arizona < 1161218157 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not that old :D < 1161218159 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol! < 1161218163 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mac qbasic was so bad < 1161218165 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QBASIC was dying when I started using it. < 1161218175 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started on gwbasic < 1161218193 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came into programming when C++ was ``all the rage''. < 1161218193 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course I should have graduated 6 years ago so I'm extra old < 1161218202 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like ``all the hallucination''. < 1161218231 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: are you still a die hard c++ fan, or do you like d better now? < 1161218248 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c rules them all < 1161218250 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I programmed in isolation for about 3 years before my family got internet access- by that time, I'd graduated to DarkBASIC and the pc version of QB, and honed my skills. < 1161218259 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf rules them all < 1161218271 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i should have added a ^^ i guess < 1161218276 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ought'ta try out Pascal. < 1161218283 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since you can compile a special form of BASIC *into* BF, BASIC rules all! < 1161218294 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've written a whole bunch of C code here already, so it'll be pointless to rewrite this in C. < 1161218295 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can compile BF into BASIC! < 1161218304 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I prefer C. < 1161218304 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh NAGH we get infinite recursion < 1161218306 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1161218308 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I prefer D. < 1161218309 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Machine code rules EVERYTHING. < 1161218317 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: But I still like C++, more than anybody on #d ;) < 1161218319 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYTHING compiles to machine code. < 1161218328 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAH! < 1161218333 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: VHDL doesn't < 1161218338 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VHDL compiles into machines ^^ < 1161218341 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: But VHDL simulators do. < 1161218345 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bf cpu.. bf is machine code! < 1161218358 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a spec for a BF CPU too. < 1161218360 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: but you don't use them for real things < 1161218369 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you use them for development < 1161218375 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you produce REAL HARDWARE < 1161218377 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: You do use them if you're in high school and can't afford an FPGA. < 1161218409 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: arn't some of the better simulators more expensive than cheap fpgas? < 1161218419 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: Yeah. < 1161218426 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the small fpga i used to use was like $100 < 1161218440 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And your school uses coffee cups from McDonalds donated in the 70's as calorimeters, so the school's obviously out. < 1161218450 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm and wait what's high school? < 1161218454 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would that be in germany? < 1161218472 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's not that much comparison... the schooling before college. < 1161218481 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what is college ^^? < 1161218485 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :University. < 1161218488 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1161218507 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a bit like oberstufe < 1161218508 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in Germany, you specialize into Practical and Theoretical, which does not happen in the USA. < 1161218522 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: we do what? < 1161218526 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you? < 1161218537 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: would be kind of new to me < 1161218538 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you pick your alley of study before entering university? < 1161218561 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least, your general area. < 1161218563 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: in grade 11 to 13 you pick so called leistungskurse... that are your two main subjects < 1161218569 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can study whatever you want < 1161218574 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you get the allgemeine hochschulreife < 1161218577 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: Yes, that doesen't happen here at all. < 1161218587 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does in some places. < 1161218594 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not so formal, but informally. < 1161218597 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can do something in grade 11-13 but something different at university < 1161218611 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. Because you do end up taking advanced classes, generally, in the subjects you're interested in. < 1161218633 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, if you're like me, you try and take advanced classes in everything and start a failing juggling attempt. < 1161218663 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1161218674 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm wait is grade the right word? < 1161218681 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it is. < 1161218689 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: in which grade are you? < 1161218698 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :11. 12 is the last high school year here. < 1161218710 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is in 11 too
< 1161218714 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the first year in the oberstufe < 1161218772 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm "Advanced Placement" is something like the leistungskurse (sais wikipedia) < 1161218773 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: there is light at the end of the tunnel. College is freaking awesome. < 1161218838 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thought was the one thing that kept me going in high-school, and it's true! < 1161218877 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oberstufe in germany is great < 1161218909 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1161218924 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Heh. So I've heard. < 1161218931 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only imagine that your public schools don't suck ass in germany. < 1161218943 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: have you thought about where you want to go? < 1161218946 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. I go to the local income depressed school. < 1161218970 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: MIT is obviously the goal, but I have serious doubts unless I can unveil some great program of my own and present it on the application and hope for recognition. < 1161219014 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe this will be worth something. < 1161219031 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did anyone respond to me? < 1161219043 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't check this chan until just now < 1161219046 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be honest, I didn't really want to go to a school as huge as MIT- MTU is awesome, and I don't need a car to get from class to class. < 1161219048 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can't easily scroll up < 1161219066 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Well, I love the books the MIT folks make. < 1161219080 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But looking at the SICP lectures... they seem slightly less than engaging. < 1161219084 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a number of smaller universities that may not be as famous as MIT, but are nearly as prestigious. < 1161219088 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1161219092 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to go to the local university... < 1161219124 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any comments on http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/esoteric/brainscrambler_noloop.py.txt ? < 1161219154 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes < 1161219161 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1161219176 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1161219192 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1161219213 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh btw i almost forgot to spread my cool new blog into this channel... there might be something about esolangs there in the future: http://method-missing.org/ < 1161219217 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The comment is.. < 1161219228 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't mean comments /in/ the code < 1161219232 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you have to figure that out yourself :P < 1161219264 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i have no idea what that code does and thus no comment about it.... ) < 1161219355 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's almost an implementation of http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Brainscrambler < 1161219359 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't do loops yet < 1161219431 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh. I just got an idea for a unique EsoLang. < 1161219447 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: tell tell tell! < 1161219453 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I fork a child process to do something intensive and then blop its product onto stdout, and you have more than one fork, can they write to stdout out of order? < 1161219572 0 :bd_!n=bdonlan@donlanbj3.umeres.maine.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1161219573 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make short program segments of an arbitrarily limited size (say, 256 bytes) containing instruction. call these "Tokens" or something. At runtime, randomly select a specific number (say 10 or however many are in "the bag", whichever is more) are chosen and executed in order. When all the tokens are executed, they're put back in "the bag", shuffled, and new tokens are chosen. < 1161219591 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only way to make sure your code does what you want is careful buffering and conditionals. < 1161219622 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND, you can affect the probabilities of specific tokens by creating copies of existing ones or inserting new ones into the bag. < 1161219628 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoughts? < 1161219628 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi bd_ < 1161219636 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. < 1161219654 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I do think. < 1161219662 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1161219683 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1161219708 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n/m < 1161219719 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although this might be the perfect place to ask about something.. < 1161219730 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you want to ask? < 1161219737 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This week is "Spirit Week" in my school. < 1161219741 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you see my question above, by the way? < 1161219751 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tomorrow is "Would you still be my friend if I wore this all day" < 1161219769 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uggh. School spirit :P < 1161219772 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I wanted to try some sort of "Would you still be my friend if I did not participate" thing < 1161219780 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1161219791 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I should just go in regular clothes and explain it to everyone < 1161219801 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is your school particularly spirited? < 1161219815 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of all the activities on the calendar, I loathed "Spirit week" with the most passion. < 1161219825 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if I should have some sort of sigh with "I forgot to bring the really cool idea I had for today" < 1161219835 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what it is, but it sounds awful < 1161219842 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ours is about 50% diehard Spirit lovers, and 50% I-don't-give-a-care. < 1161219847 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I told a lot of people "I have a great idea, but it's a secret" < 1161219861 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So: Sign or no sign, and if sign, what should be the phrasing? < 1161219919 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1161219954 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a hint: At the first pep assembly my senior year, several students garnered themselves detentions by throwing a vibrator (with the battery compartment conveniently glued shut) at the freshman class. This wasn't considered very unusual. < 1161219958 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hated my school. < 1161220037 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anyone has any ideas relating to what I said, that person or persons should state what the idea(s) is/are. < 1161220069 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only thing I hated more than being at those assemblies as a freshman was being associated with the asswipes doing it when I was a senior. < 1161220100 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161220162 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome back, calamari. < 1161220181 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re calamari < 1161220184 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1161220189 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my son closed the window < 1161220213 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he likes to "type" .. and I guess he accidentally pressed the right key combo < 1161220222 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1161220262 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Clearly nobody cares or nobody happened to be around and we're all too lazy to read the log. < 1161220789 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1161223166 0 :ihope!n=foo@71.205.100.59 JOIN :#esoteric < 1161223269 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h141.244.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161223296 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a CakeProphet! < 1161223327 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yuop < 1161223781 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does the ultimate CakeProphet userpage vandalism thing
< 1161223827 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1161224071 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, there are worse vandalism thingies. < 1161224079 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Just Made The Entire Page Look Like This. < 1161224247 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I'll simply remove all the text. < 1161224312 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, maybe < 1161224381 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I'll just remove all the spacing. < 1161224423 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!" < 1161224460 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Setting the word spacing to -4 pixels seems to do it nicely. < 1161224732 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. Now your userpage looks all nice and sparkly. < 1161224751 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1161224780 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not sparkly. < 1161224820 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But nice. < 1161225361 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not nice either. < 1161225525 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's suddenly time for bed. < 1161225818 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1161225818 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1161225818 0 :ghostless!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1161225818 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1161225821 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1161225821 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 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irc.freenode.net < 1161225831 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1161226118 0 :fizzie!n=fizban@sesefras.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@67-21-19-37.clspco.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :ghostless!i=cd46c6dd@neon.trighost.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@cpc1-stkn2-0-0-cust919.midd.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :sp3tt!n=sp3tt@80-162.cust.umeaenergi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h141.244.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :ihope!n=foo@71.205.100.59 JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :bd_!n=bdonlan@donlanbj3.umeres.maine.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :tokigun!n=tokigun@sparcs45.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-146-92.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@about/copyleft/user/bsmntbombdood JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :_milo!n=milo@85.91.150.207 JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :Eidolos!n=Sartak@c-24-61-30-218.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :paparent!n=paparent@111-80-252-216-dsl.enter-net.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :dbc!n=dbc@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11faaoj.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@c220-237-14-15.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :Anders!i=anders@unaffiliated/anders1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :EgoBot!n=EgoBot@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :deltab!n=deltab@82-46-154-93.cable.ubr02.smal.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :mtve!i=mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226118 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@24.21.138.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1161226774 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1161227845 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1161228819 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Penor < 1161228839 0 :Penor!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :UncleSam < 1161228846 0 :UncleSam!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CakeProphet < 1161228859 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ahems.
< 1161230325 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161230384 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Hey. < 1161230480 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1161230555 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is in the process of making basm.b more sane
< 1161230631 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How close do packets have to be before their places can be shuffled in a queue? < 1161230649 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damned if I know. < 1161230650 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that network architecture dependant? < 1161230660 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably arch dependant. < 1161230665 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1161230672 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Furrowed forehead. < 1161232031 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1161232890 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kidsquid.com/files/bf/99bobdsp.b.bz2 < 1161232920 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :run with egobfi8, redirect to > /dev/dsp .. enjoy ;) < 1161232972 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm timing it to see how long it takes.. it's still playing so I don't have an answer yet < 1161233155 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm terrified of what that may be ... < 1161233190 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: be terrified, but give in :) < 1161233202 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me it actually SAYS "ninety ... nine ... bottles of beer on the wall, ... ninety ... nine ... bottles of beeeer, take one down and pass it around, ... ninety ... eight ... bottles of beer on the wall!" < 1161233208 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's every bit as bad as you might be expecting :P < 1161233274 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MY GOD THAT RULES < 1161233297 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you use to generate the voice? < 1161233310 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ibm's text to speech webpage < 1161233318 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha-HAH < 1161233347 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm at 24 < 1161233365 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works in a 16-bit envi, but in a 32-bit envi there's what I suspect to be a REALLY long pause between lines. < 1161233382 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's using bfbasic so who knows < 1161233437 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Post it to 99-bottles-of-beer.net :P < 1161233443 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who cares if it's 740K! < 1161233509 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 < 1161233510 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1161233517 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1161233526 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1161233534 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1161233544 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no more :( < 1161233554 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :real 14m43.778s < 1161233566 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it didn't start going: "two ... hundred ... fifty ... five ... bottles of beer on the wall" < 1161233572 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1161233613 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing I'll probably be the only one to listen to that all the way thru < 1161233622 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost soytenly :P < 1161233642 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does handle the 1 and 0 cases correctly < 1161233666 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to convert it to an mp3 but clearly didn't set the input params properly for lame :P < 1161233700 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh so you could fast forward < 1161233718 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah ;) < 1161233736 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the stats on /dev/pcm? < 1161233739 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could hack the bf program < 1161233741 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Default) < 1161233747 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/pcm ? < 1161233754 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /dev/dsp rather X_X < 1161233762 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8000 unsigned 8 bit < 1161233800 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should sing the numbers and record them for me ;) < 1161233801 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mono? < 1161233806 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me? Hah < 1161233807 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it will sound more jolly < 1161233879 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah mono < 1161233917 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame - -s 8 --unsigned --bitwidth=8 -m m < 1161233922 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still not quite right X_X < 1161234009 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is what I used for the encoding < 1161234012 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mplayer filename.mp3 -ao pcm:nowaveheader:file=audio.dsp -srate 8000 -af-adv force=1 -af channels=1 -format u8 < 1161234082 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrugs* < 1161234283 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just output to a file on the hd. shouldn't be that big < 1161234367 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go.. 7 mb < 1161234404 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :took 5a seconds to dump < 1161234406 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :51 < 1161234486 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No silly, 5A == 90, not 51. < 1161234493 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1161234544 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if mplayer can play raw audio you can encode using it < 1161234571 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rawaudio < 1161234943 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161234966 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: if you'd been playing it you would have been done by now ;) < 1161234982 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you would have gone insane and jumped off a bridge.. who knows < 1161235024 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but I'm writing an anthro paper :p < 1161235177 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1161235183 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write about the culture of stupid drinking songs < 1161235283 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the hell kind of class paper is that open-ended? < 1161235487 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor: sox -r 8000 -u -b -c 1 song.raw song.wav < 1161235499 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that gets you to a wav .. then you can use lame from there < 1161235782 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be around 14mb at 128k < 1161235880 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they need a 136k bitrate so its 1mb per minute < 1161235961 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1161235963 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1161235983 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1161236243 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1161237258 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1161237675 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are clearing the cells anyways, isn't ignoring a 0x00 just to use [.[-]] instead of .? < 1161237690 0 :Arrogant!i=Paragon@152.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161237797 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The outside [] will make it depend on non-zero as input ... < 1161237828 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1161237830 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's exactly my point < 1161237830 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get it now. < 1161237831 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1161237870 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw this is for pikhq about his basm problem from the log < 1161244799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1161244800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1161245550 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1161246765 0 :sekhmet_!n=pez@ppp-70-226-146-92.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161246798 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1161250238 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"If you're reading this, it's probably xchat's fault." < 1161251322 0 :_Ann_!n=anovikov@89.207.216.240 JOIN :#esoteric < 1161251341 0 :_Ann_!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1161255013 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1161258596 0 :jix!n=jix@L625b.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1161258935 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1161259426 0 :_milo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Konversation terminated!" < 1161260196 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1161260218 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@58.77.172.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1161260656 0 :jwest-!n=jwest@unaffiliated/jwest/x-422957 JOIN :#esoteric < 1161260730 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heyhi < 1161263869 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1161264275 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION remains at 18 of 158 cells to set in the basm memory. . .
< 1161265586 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h54.238.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161266515 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1161266527 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h54.238.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161267494 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION contemplates adding AOP to INTERCAL...
< 1161267592 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE DIVERT NEXTING (1001) AT (44)+(820)-(830) < 1161267679 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would push the original call site, then the location of the incerpted call onto the return stack, so the RESUME #1 would continue with the thing that was intercepted and RESUME #2 would abort the thing that was intercepted < 1161267736 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This would make it easier to have multiple DIVERTs for one statement. < 1161267765 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIVERT COMING FROM (440) AT * < 1161267785 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIVERT DIVERSIONS AT (200)-(850) < 1161267790 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwahahaha! < 1161267849 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIVERT would be like a conditional COME FROM, crossed with a NEXT. < 1161268725 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :SevenInchBread < 1161269064 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CakeProphet < 1161269984 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@cpc1-stkn2-0-0-cust919.midd.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1161271075 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1161271452 0 :sekhmet_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sekhmet < 1161273718 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1161273773 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h54.238.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161273862 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-103fe155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1161273972 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1161274032 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h54.238.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161275059 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@167.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1161277493 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161277937 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1161278895 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-103fe155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1161279054 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GrandmotherChaos < 1161281333 0 :GrandmotherChaos!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :SevenInchBread < 1161281606 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@host-202-28.pubnet.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1161282690 0 :SevenInchBread!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GrandmotherChaos < 1161282994 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1161283011 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1161283073 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1161283494 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1161283502 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? < 1161283548 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION curses at basm.b
< 1161283940 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bom.b? < 1161283945 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, basm.b. < 1161284212 0 :GrandmotherChaos!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CakeProphet < 1161284282 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting the strings done efficiently: Pure. Craziness. < 1161284317 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting the strings done efficiently: Pure. Uncut. Cocaine. < 1161284342 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1161285034 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: did you try out the 99bob song? < 1161285113 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :38 out of 158 characters now. . . < 1161285113 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting fat :( pants barely fit < 1161285114 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: No. < 1161285198 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should have it repeat at the end < 1161285335 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately, once I get the first @#$% string done, everything remaining is really simple. . . < 1161286039 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1161288673 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1161289602 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1161289945 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has been hacking the URL of a site, and got these (url.ie addresses in order to hide the joke): http://url.ie/290 http://url.ie/291 http://url.ie/292
< 1161290229 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...are you still setting up the strings in memory? < 1161290348 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1161291096 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, SimonRC. < 1161291103 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty funny. :) < 1161295021 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1161295021 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@about/copyleft/user/bsmntbombdood JOIN :#esoteric < 1161297634 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION likes the B compiler error codes.
< 1161297635 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the full set is: $) () */ [] >c >e >i >s ex lv rd sx un xx < 1161297637 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1161298094 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dbc: I'm taking large amounts of breaks for sanity's sake. < 1161298110 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for my wrist's sake, too. . . < 1161298199 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just take the plunge and go completely insane. < 1161298224 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ever redo BFM, I'll do it in very, very compact sexps. < 1161298236 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd save me a lot of issues that I've had. . . < 1161298534 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@host-202-32.pubnet.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1161300676 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1161302063 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders why calamari didn't do some complex looping for his 99bob BF Audio. . .