< 1157069945 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157072315 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uggh. Trees annoy me. < 1157072333 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are they so oftenly taught to CS students when they're incredibly cumbersome to manage? < 1157072347 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although if you want an INTERCAL-esque language, trees are the way to go ;). < 1157072362 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they're an incredibly useful data structure with really cool properties? < 1157072377 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. < 1157072378 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND a classic example of recursive algorithms < 1157072402 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a binary tree might be pretty useful here < 1157072405 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if you want to search for something in a data structure recursively, trees are useful, but other than that..... < 1157072415 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as being awkward < 1157072463 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifying an edge requires specifying two nodes at the same time < 1157072879 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: did you see my spec for that lego-based language I mentioned before? < 1157072928 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1157072934 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : It's unique. < 1157072936 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : That means that Razor-X isn't likely to complain. < 1157072970 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/OGEL < 1157073294 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I get time later today I want to program a CRC32 checksum generator in Scheme as something kinda-useful. < 1157073311 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does a generator do if the file you're creating a checksum of is less than 4 bytes? Pad the file to 4 bytes, or truncate the key? < 1157073345 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think pad, off the top of my head < 1157074250 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.2/0000000000]" < 1157074622 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Nope. < 1157074624 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OGEL, eh? < 1157074632 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1157074649 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reversal thing is a complete coincidence, of course! < 1157074675 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was my router being idiotic, by the way. < 1157074752 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No need to be afraid, my uptime is alright. < 1157074841 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmm. Slide rules are cool. < 1157075435 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Outta here." < 1157075693 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What reversal thing? < 1157075841 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/31621.aspx MY BRAIN!!! < 1157077875 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h236.225.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157078862 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :HypersillySgeo < 1157079250 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: 頭以上何だかしらァァァァ!!! < 1157079608 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My thoughts exactly. < 1157079624 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't read the link though :D. < 1157083047 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey... someone convert this to brainfuck. < 1157083059 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or (sqrt((18 * 1/5)/(1))/1))/1 < 1157083080 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^2 < 1157083134 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or ( sqrt( (18 * 1/5)/1)/1) )/1 )^2 for clarity < 1157083185 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know sqrt off the top of my head :-P < 1157083402 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, Omit the square root and the exponent then :D < 1157083416 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. < 1157083424 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1157083427 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon < 1157083429 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl < 1157083436 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen lol < 1157083439 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/bash: /opt/sablevm/bin/sablevm: No such file or directory < 1157083444 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1157083444 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1157083446 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's, uh. < 1157083447 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1157083457 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now try < 1157083460 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would prefer to do that in RPN. < 1157083467 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAHAHAHAHAHAH - FreeCiv was NOT meant to run on 800x600 XD < 1157083471 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen lol < 1157083491 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :51 +++++++++++[>+++>++++++++++>><<<<-]>-..>--.+++.---. [191] < 1157083518 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18 1 5/*1/1/2v1/2^ < 1157083999 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Cake is magical < 1157084029 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :138 ++++++++++++[>++++++>+++>++++++++>+++++++++<<<<-]>-----.>>+.>-.<++++.<----.>++++.++++++++++.<.>------.------------.++++++.++.------.--.>+. [696] < 1157084277 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen fuck < 1157084291 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :61 +++++++++++++[>++++++++>+++++++++>><<<<-]>--.>.<---.++++++++. [64] < 1157084416 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen It's better on localhost. < 1157084441 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :186 +++++++++++++[>++++++>+++>+++++++++>++++++++<<<<-]>-----.>>-.<.>-.<-------.<+++++++++++++++++++++++++.+++.>>+..>---.<--.<.>---.-.<.<+++++++.>>+.>--.--.<<<.----.>>.++++.+.<++++++++++++++. [368] < 1157084488 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because I cut it off. < 1157084497 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It never stops otherwise :P < 1157084502 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1157084535 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :199 +++++++++++++[>+++++++++>++++++>+++++++++>+++<<<<-]>>-----.>-.<+++++++++++++++++++.>>.<-.>-------.<<++++++.+++.<-..>.>-.>.<---.-.>.<<+++++++.>+.------------.--.<.----.+++++++.++++.+.>>++++++++++++++. [678] < 1157084542 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wee? < 1157084554 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++++++++[>+++++++++>++++++>+++++++++>+++<<<<-]>>-----.>-.<+++++++++++++++++++.>>.<-.>-------.<<++++++.+++.<-..>.>-.>.<---.-.>.<<+++++++.>+.------------.--.<.----.+++++++.++++.+.>>++++++++++++++. < 1157084557 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It\'s better on localhost. < 1157084562 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . < 1157084580 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feel stupid, < 1157084662 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++++++[>+++++>+++>++++++++>+++++++<<<<-]>+++.>>++++.<---.>-.<-------.>>.+++.<+..>.<--.<.>---.-.<.>>+++++++.<+.------------.--.>.<+++++++.>+++.++++.+.<<++++++++++++++. < 1157084665 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's better on localhost. < 1157084769 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1157084780 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watch as it produces something ridiculously complex. < 1157084795 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :60 +++++++++++++[>+++++>+++++>><<<<-]>...........>.....<....... [499] < 1157084795 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not ridiculously, but still complex, yeah. < 1157086924 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is officially a madman :P < 1157086932 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION attempts to compile supertux for m68k, to run on his LC580 < 1157087224 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shoot, segfault 8-X < 1157087231 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1157087235 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing less debuggable on this planet. < 1157087244 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It popped up a window though! < 1157087250 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's at least somewhere! < 1157087261 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it assumed that I'd compiled in JPEG support :P < 1157087277 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And told SDL_image to open a .jpg without actually verifying that it worked. < 1157087293 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I pray for this case because it's trivial to fix ;) ) < 1157087532 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1157087723 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooooh, ancient gdb :P < 1157087729 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gdb 4.18 XD < 1157087882 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This proc, btw, is 32MHz :P < 1157088658 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come ooooooooooooooooon supertux! You can DO it! < 1157088665 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :32MHz is NOT too slow! < 1157088684 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slower than my *calculator*. < 1157088690 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah < 1157088706 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I wouldn't be particularly surprised if your calculator had the same type of proc (m68k) < 1157088721 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that mine is a 66mhz ARM9. . . < 1157088731 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG IT SORT OF STARTED RUNNING < 1157088737 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Then it segfaulted) < 1157088769 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs his HP 49g+ a bit < 1157088965 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something tells me I'm not going to be playing supertux any time soon :-P < 1157088973 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any suggestions for a game to try to port? < 1157088980 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has to be more than nethack :P < 1157089042 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you running on? < 1157089083 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Macintosh LC 580 (m68k/32MHz) + Debian 2.2 (Potato) + custom-built libs < 1157089097 0 :HypersillySgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Sgeo < 1157089164 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1157089172 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tetris? < 1157089588 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@252.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157092350 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-22-187.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157092921 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"temci lo nu gunka" < 1157092987 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Cursing makes me sound cool. < 1157093015 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :210 +++++++++++[>+++>++++++++++>++++++>+++++++++++<<<<-]>>>+.>----.---.+.<++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.<.>--.<<-.>-.>------.<--.>++++.>.<<<.>++.>.<<.>>>.<<++.>>++.-------.<-.<<.>>-.<..---.<++++++++++++++. [619] < 1157093028 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++++++[>+++>++++++++++>++++++>+++++++++++<<<<-]>>>+.>----.---.+.<++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.<.>--.<<-.>-.>------.<--.>++++.>.<<<.>++.>.<<.>>>.<<++.>>++.-------.<-.<<.>>-.<..---.<++++++++++++++. < 1157093031 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cursing makes me sound cool. < 1157093038 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1157093065 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should use some of my summer-learned statistics to run some lay statistical analyses on bf_txtgen. < 1157093308 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night all < 1157093362 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1157093466 0 :thematrixeatsyou!n=thematri@222-152-161-15.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1157095937 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"food" < 1157096321 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1157096798 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-" < 1157097599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1157097600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1157100106 0 :wooby!n=alan@ny-lancastercadent4g1-3a-236.buf.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157100458 0 :nooga!n=nooga@81.210.40.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1157100473 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;- < 1157101226 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1157103603 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1157108633 0 :deltab!n=deltab@82-46-154-93.cable.ubr02.smal.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1157113848 0 :dbremner!n=dbremner@c-24-16-73-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157116646 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157117573 0 :Arrogant_!i=Scott@227.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157118117 0 :GreyKnight!n=wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157118700 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1157118753 0 :Arrogant_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Arrogant < 1157119414 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1157119503 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157119896 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1157120552 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157120735 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just typo'd /attach as /chanserv. Kill me. < 1157120779 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stabs < 1157120899 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dies < 1157121099 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mr. Stabby, laa-la la-la-laa. < 1157121154 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stabs fizzie too < 1157122295 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[INFO] Connecting to irc://127.0.0.1/ (irc://127.0.0.1/), attempt 1, next attempt in 15 seconds... < 1157122305 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ERROR] Connection to irc://127.0.0.1/ (irc://127.0.0.1/) refused. < 1157122312 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ERROR] Connection to irc://127.0.0.1/ (irc://127.0.0.1/) closed. < 1157122317 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-o < 1157122319 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The connection was refused, then closed? < 1157122376 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe just an artifact of the points in the code those messages are generated at < 1157122414 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe my computer thinks it has a firewall. < 1157122620 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might well be a client that "opens" a "connection" (some sort of internal data structure), gets a "connection refused" network reply (and prints the first ERROR), then destroys the internal connection object thing (second ERROR). < 1157122663 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I meant < 1157122668 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only more clearly explained :-) < 1157122678 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if I don't have the ircd running, it just says "refused". If it is running, I get both "refused" and "closed". < 1157122697 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O < 1157122791 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's stranger. < 1157122900 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I _guess_ in theory it could print "connection refused" even when the _ircd_ sends a "not welcome" reply, but that'd be very silly. < 1157123168 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not welcome? < 1157123191 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt the ircd said I'm not welcome. It's my ircd, after all. < 1157123217 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe your computer hates you, and this is its revenge :-) < 1157123259 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and trying to telnet to 127.0.0.1 on port 6667 says "connect failed". < 1157123809 0 :deltab!n=deltab@82-46-154-93.cable.ubr02.smal.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1157125698 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope_ < 1157125724 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: read a ?punishment? < 1157125727 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1157125752 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: was that a question or a suggestion? < 1157125764 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering where the iron chain came from < 1157125773 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, question :-3 < 1157125777 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157125791 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, it was a wand of nick. < 1157125792 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1157127196 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157127212 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Us, two weeks ago: "The default version of vim is changing to 7.0 in two weeks." < 1157127231 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Us, one week ago: "The default version of vim is changing to 7.0 in one week." < 1157127234 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Us, one day ago: "The default version of vim is changing to 7.0 tomorrow." < 1157127247 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Us, today? < 1157127251 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Them, today: "zomg my vimrc broke u sux" < 1157127452 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kill. < 1157127463 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION kills pikhq < 1157127466 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? < 1157128067 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-e33fe155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1157129721 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/157414 < 1157129786 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see it uses many braces in weird places. < 1157129795 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stabs GregorR-W with a { < 1157129815 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all in fairly reasonable places. < 1157129823 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though }); has sort of become Plof's motto :P < 1157129890 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like a wonky emoticon. < 1157129896 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having fun? < 1157129964 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157129965 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an emoticon who is sad because his fake moustache has fallen down to his chin < 1157129997 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And possibly whatever knocked it off has poked him in one eye < 1157130029 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so where do the braces go? < 1157130049 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{foobar} seems to mean... well, maybe it contains blocks and operators and such. < 1157130077 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: It's a functional language. {foobar} defines an anonymous function which returns the value in the variable "foobar" < 1157130097 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157130108 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So foobar is a variable and {foobar} is its value, or what? < 1157130122 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, {foobar} is a function which returns its value. < 1157130330 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if is a function, not a keyword. < 1157130344 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You call if with the parameters of the condition and the function you'd like called if the condition is true. < 1157130983 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157134373 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope went from "mildly interested" to "not even slightly interested" in no time flat :P < 1157134390 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, sure I'm interested. < 1157134400 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just didn't really have anything to say. < 1157134444 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a fairly noteworthy event :-) < 1157134915 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :char[][char[]] < 1157135181 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An associative array of strings? < 1157135216 0 :char[][char[]]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1157135544 0 :jix!n=jix@L6051.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157135723 0 :char[][char[]]!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pound_define < 1157135735 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-23-29.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157135817 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1157135979 0 :pound_define!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pound_ifndef_GRE < 1157135990 0 :pound_ifndef_GRE!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ifndef_GREGOR_H < 1157136090 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this, scrolling nicks? < 1157136102 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm annoying people on #d with C++-themed nicks. < 1157136120 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :using_namespace_ < 1157136272 0 :using_namespace_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :include_gc_gccpp < 1157136354 0 :include_gc_gccpp!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR-W < 1157136400 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1157136501 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1157136516 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd rather I did more? :P < 1157136522 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooooo < 1157136819 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"temci lo nu citka" < 1157137187 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GreyWorker < 1157137316 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157137452 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157137470 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox is zomgstable < 1157137544 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use irssi for IRC. Don't need to care. ;) < 1157137588 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should start using telnet for IRC ^^ < 1157137615 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd just need something to autpong and I'd have the perfect IRC client. < 1157137697 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude, write an IRC bot from scratch or something. < 1157137702 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then use it as a client. < 1157137711 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: I have. But I don't use it as a client :P < 1157137717 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1157137729 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modify it such that it can be used as a client? < 1157137733 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1157139529 0 :GreyWorker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an IRC client, but I haven't quite finished it :-\ < 1157139619 0 :GreyWorker!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GreyKnight < 1157139897 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :laziness ftw < 1157139956 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Procrastination ftw. < 1157139970 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What we need is a competition. < 1157139979 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoever can write the best IRC bot in 30 seconds wins. < 1157139980 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To see who can procrastinate the most? < 1157140008 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: I started writing rawirc, but got lazy when it came to select()'ing between stdin and the connected FD :P < 1157140017 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time's up. What a shame, nobody entered. < 1157140033 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were all doing my procrastination idea instead < 1157140038 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So everyone's a winner! < 1157140044 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1157140069 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-61-128.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157140951 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What *not* to do with your IRC scripts: http://qdb.us/64488 < 1157140992 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Hey. . . For the Esolangs contest, could I do a BF program to compress BF programs? :p < 1157141039 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contest? < 1157141044 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh; topic. < 1157141061 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard to spot things in that monstrosity of a topic :-3 < 1157141103 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "This may use any compression algorithm, so long as it works." < 1157141117 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question is whether that works. < 1157141126 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that if it can't compress arbitrary data, it's probably not legit. < 1157141287 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: It'd be designed to pretty much do lossless RLE of Brainfuck code. . . Which means that it could work on arbitrary data (although it wouldn't do any compression). < 1157141304 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I'd say that's legit. < 1157141315 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Schweet. < 1157141317 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And would probably get bonus points for clever. < 1157141323 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1157141337 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the points don't matter. < 1157141354 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First, I should probably write example C programs for this format. ;) < 1157141427 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: if it *can* compress anything, itym < 1157141463 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, never mind < 1157141467 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :deltab: If it can't compress arbitrary data, then it is NOT legit ;) < 1157141485 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll s/compress/accept/ though. < 1157141493 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't notice the context < 1157141502 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the contest context < 1157141554 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The convex contest context. < 1157141617 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compress this: ^ZVS5+gwH?p%?-kw0.$g5X_q9h DNCJ;_e*/,00i/521>{mk+79FM.6iQXY~p-:B, Bf/2M%G?\i*!XfTe$zPR1S9(<^_\1H4 b&qa1RBNO-c6>]p N[?Z,<(D"BhYTG35 {HOmep\t9VqZ&{#V6/0 !|&%{>Ao"@Ul>rxF^;m|S.}WiVew^)jLF[*Tgg < 1157141640 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :convent convex contest context < 1157141640 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are all ASCII ... < 1157141675 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: no, some of them are Unicode :-P < 1157141710 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could easily be compressed into this format. < 1157141737 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, that input would end up being a little bit larger after compression. < 1157141752 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or be identical, size-wise. < 1157141779 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can't spot the Unicode ones < 1157141788 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just sees them as question marks < 1157141790 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: wtf, is that a gzip quine?! >_O < 1157141806 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: of course. < 1157141823 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Run it through gzip until you get the original. < 1157141832 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: I was so confused. < 1157141833 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put it in a file. < 1157141836 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANd compressed it. < 1157141842 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And went "WTF ... this didn't compress ..." < 1157141846 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And got something different? < 1157141866 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the same. < 1157141872 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, looked the same. < 1157141876 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't actually verify < 1157141891 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that that's a gzip quine. < 1157141898 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, hahah, I f'd up. < 1157141906 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My editor gzip's automagically as it turns out. < 1157141908 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION writes that down. < 1157141965 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BZh91AY&SYƍA < 1157141969 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*snaps* :P < 1157142031 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try base-64 encoding this: Vm0wd2QyUXlVWGxWV0d4V1YwZDRWMVl3Wkc5Vk1XeHlWbTVrVm1KR2NIbFdWM1JMVlVaV1ZVMUVhejA9 < 1157142088 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The actual fixpoint is infinitely long, of course; that's just the first part of it < 1157142119 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can generate arbitrarily long prefixes of the fixpoint by applying the encode operation repeatedly < 1157142222 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK foks: Should plof's new be recursive? < 1157142238 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :folks rather 8-X < 1157142249 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :new? < 1157142260 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :== instantiate an object < 1157142271 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, duplicate an object really (it's prototype-oriented) < 1157142288 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is leaning towards "yes" < 1157142299 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you mean "recursive"? If that object has subobjects, duplicate them vs maintain the reference? < 1157142300 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recursive? < 1157142329 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Yeah. < 1157142334 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are situations where you might use either... I'd have some way to select which one you want. < 1157142372 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe new/deepnew? < 1157142399 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, with a prototype-based language, the recursive/deep new is actually more intuitive. < 1157142410 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1157142424 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe new/shallownew or new/dup (but dup doesn't exactly imply shallow...) < 1157142452 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(BTW, prototype-based = rather than having a class, you just have objects, and to instantiate them you duplicate your "prototype" object) < 1157142462 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe abbreviate to "snew"? < 1157142475 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like subintuitive abbreviations >_> < 1157142479 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1157142484 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do better, then! < 1157142591 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*brain asplode* < 1157142614 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snew = "string new? shallow new? stupid new?", shallownew = long, dup = doesn't imply shallow X_X < 1157142622 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I may go with dup. < 1157142650 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"new1"? < 1157142670 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or new could take a depth as parameter... < 1157142679 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only 1 and infinity would be useful in all likelihood. < 1157142681 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :new(n) ? < 1157142694 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1157142749 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :other values might be handy if some insane person tries to mix deep/shallow copies < 1157142937 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got a very straightforward C decompression algorithm. . . < 1157142975 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1157143078 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you specify multiple levels of infinity, or would that be too insane? < 1157143165 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1157144436 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great. < 1157144447 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My compression program is broken. < 1157144484 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1157144499 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1157144636 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, pikhq's compression program is broken! < 1157144638 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? < 1157144721 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm only working in C right now. x_x < 1157144846 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's celebrate < 1157144876 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION celebrates < 1157144927 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd think that getting something to just RLE + - > < wouldn't be so damned hard. < 1157145110 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screw it; I'm taking RLE code from somewhere else. < 1157145117 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-O < 1157145121 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thief! < 1157145190 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION disqualifies pikhq from all competitions in the world < 1157145195 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You fail! < 1157145199 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1157147571 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#eval 3 < 1157147589 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1157147648 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-/ < 1157147683 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :curious < 1157147690 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1157147692 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1157147706 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1157147837 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed it without going to someone else's code. < 1157147838 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoo. < 1157148139 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOOOOOOOM < 1157148164 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ducks < 1157148176 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You dodged the shrapnel. Bravo! < 1157148201 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't here < 1157148343 0 :jix!n=jix@L6051.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157148457 0 :PySCo!n=Turk@85.107.89.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1157148703 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/157955 >: ) < 1157148720 0 :PySCo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1157148911 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: Now, in my Brainfuck decompressor, I'm trying to make the code very, very compressable by itself. . . Think that's a good idea? < 1157148945 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no comment on the positivity or negativity of that scheme. < 1157148955 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay. < 1157148960 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just keep on coding, then. < 1157149092 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found the problem < 1157149093 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval 3 < 1157149095 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> 3 < 1157149249 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (+ 1 1) < 1157149250 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> 2 < 1157149255 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (+ 1 1 1 1 1) < 1157149256 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> 5 < 1157149258 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :little null problem hidden away in the parsing code < 1157149267 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (system "rm -rf /") < 1157149267 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157149269 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#! Error: (1145) 'SYSTEM' IS NOT A FUNCTION OR A MACRO < 1157149292 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have that one insult the user... people are always doing it < 1157149493 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval 3 2 1 < 1157149494 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> 3 < 1157149496 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> 2 < 1157149497 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> 1 < 1157149502 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Orgle. < 1157149518 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (def foo 3) foo < 1157149519 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157149521 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157149522 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#! Error: (1145) 'DEF' IS NOT A FUNCTION OR A MACRO < 1157149524 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Orgle yourself < 1157149531 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (define foo 3) foo < 1157149532 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157149533 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157149535 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#! Error: (1145) 'DEFINE' IS NOT A FUNCTION OR A MACRO < 1157149536 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh. < 1157149536 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (setq foo 3) foo < 1157149538 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> 3 < 1157149540 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> 3 < 1157149541 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1157149543 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1157149551 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it could be better documented. < 1157149578 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157149618 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (defun system (x) (list nice try)) (system "rm 0rf /") < 1157149618 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> "SYSTEM" < 1157149620 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> '(NIL NIL) < 1157149626 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fails < 1157149641 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (defun system (x) '(nice try)) (system "rm -rf /") < 1157149642 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> "SYSTEM" < 1157149644 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> '(NICE TRY) < 1157149650 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1157149659 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see: < 1157149671 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (defun system (x) (list 'nice 'try)) (system "rm 0rf /") < 1157149672 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> "SYSTEM" < 1157149674 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> '(NICE TRY) < 1157149681 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like so? < 1157149733 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that. < 1157149756 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (system "rm -rf /") < 1157149756 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> :QUITTRYINGTOHAXORME < 1157149766 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmh. < 1157149791 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just changed it to :QUIT-TRYING-TO-HAXOR-ME while you were typing that < 1157149798 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (system "ls") < 1157149799 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> :QUIT-TRYING-TO-HAXOR-ME < 1157149826 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1157149855 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (system ) < 1157149856 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157149858 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#! Error: (1076) LAMBDA REQUIRED 1 ARGUMENTS, GOT 0 < 1157149864 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (system system) < 1157149865 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> :QUIT-TRYING-TO-HAXOR-ME < 1157149895 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda-lists are currently pretty restrictive; you have to specify exactly as many arguments as it expects < 1157149925 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (defun quine () '(quine)) (quine) < 1157149926 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> "QUINE" < 1157149927 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> '(QUINE) < 1157149932 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1157149965 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (lambda (quine) 'lol-quine) < 1157149966 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> # < 1157149969 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is close :-) < 1157149988 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval Here comes a quine < 1157149996 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, wait... < 1157150006 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150008 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150010 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150011 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150015 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1157150020 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval #> NIL < 1157150032 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1157150041 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't like that :-) < 1157150041 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Know of any good BF debuggers? < 1157150053 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pah, debuggers. < 1157150056 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval Let's get this bot flooded off the network; I'm sure FreeNode won't like seeing this many messages coming in a brief span. If it does, sorry < 1157150059 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150061 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> 'S < 1157150062 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150064 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150065 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150067 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150071 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whee. < 1157150076 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1157150080 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150082 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150085 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150087 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1157150088 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150090 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> 'M < 1157150092 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150093 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150095 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150097 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> T < 1157150098 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150100 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150101 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150103 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150104 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#! Error: (227) EXPECTED symbol < 1157150106 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD GRIEF < 1157150115 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did uncover a bug, though; it should've stopped at the ; < 1157150120 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psheesh. < 1157150135 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval Flooded; I'm < 1157150164 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :offline for adding flood-protect :-P < 1157150175 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn :P < 1157150231 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150233 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157150235 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> 'M < 1157150394 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now moar flood-protected < 1157150427 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#help < 1157150427 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#help : Tells you what a command does. < 1157150433 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#help help < 1157150434 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#help : Tells you what a command does. < 1157150440 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#help do < 1157150440 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do : can be: 'echo' - repeats the arguments; 'eval' - evaluates the arguments as gkd-lisp < 1157150451 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#help reload < 1157150452 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#reload: I don't know what that command is... < 1157150455 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#help say < 1157150455 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#say: I don't know what that command is... < 1157150463 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#help whydontyouhaveacommandlistmofo < 1157150463 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#whydontyouhaveacommandlistmofo: I don't know what that command is... < 1157150469 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try "#commands" < 1157150509 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1157150524 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mofo? < 1157150548 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#commands < 1157150548 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#help #do #eval #echo #ftoc #ctof #ping #chat #quit #pray #kickme #google #senet #status < 1157150550 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do echo !@#_)!3x'wqA{swA !@#_)!3x'wqA{swA and < (it's meant to do it for Brainfuck code; RLEing anything else doesn't make much sense). . . < 1157152963 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems right to me. < 1157152977 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the C code I'm having issues with. < 1157152978 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: the BF? < 1157152987 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the Brainfuck code I'm having issues with. . . < 1157153058 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see no BF :P < 1157153070 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/158016 < 1157153128 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What interpreter? < 1157153134 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure it's 8-bit? < 1157153136 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try checking the BF, see what I can manage < 1157153139 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :egobfi8 < 1157153145 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably 8-bit :p < 1157153171 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>- temp3=0 < 1157153174 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ That doesn't seem right .. < 1157153181 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When did you ever set temp3 to anything but 0? < 1157153190 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, wait... < 1157153195 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>-------------------------------------------[ < 1157153199 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ That'll check for !=, not == < 1157153200 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>>>+<<<< temp3=1 < 1157153210 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1157153212 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there'tis. < 1157153218 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would cause my main issues with it, then. < 1157153239 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need to do not on that, then. x_x < 1157153323 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1157153399 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of these links include debugging capability: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/BF#Implementations < 1157153404 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or claim to, anyway) < 1157153414 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only debugging EgoBF supports is # < 1157153419 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably true of most of them. < 1157153490 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://koti.mbnet.fi/villes/php/bf.php < 1157153507 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one's even implemented in PHP, so no downloads required \o/ < 1157153529 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I fixed one bug there. < 1157153629 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Yeah, you just get to hammer their server :P < 1157153641 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's their own lookout! < 1157153646 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts in -[.] < 1157153671 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to figure out why it isn't doing any output at all. < 1157153682 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /mbnet/v/villes/php/bf.php on line 8 < 1157153684 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1157153747 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GreyPaladin < 1157153831 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've got a clue as to why there is a bug. < 1157153847 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that all of my conditions in the loop fail. < 1157153850 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL of them. < 1157153854 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1157153858 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gj < 1157154278 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/158043 More help? < 1157154333 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<[-]> is unnecessary, you already know it's 0 < 1157154351 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he's just being paranoid :-) < 1157154354 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[>-<-] < this isn't correct < 1157154365 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, never mind. < 1157154367 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see how you did it. < 1157154389 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[>-<-][ < this, however, is not correct. < 1157154392 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, god. I see where my bug is now. < 1157154394 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You meant to step back to the right, I believ. < 1157154396 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*believe < 1157154447 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'm curious about why my last condition (if(temp3!=0)) doesn't work, with those loops not being called. < 1157154557 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're slowly moving left. < 1157154615 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put a few #'s in before your >-----...s < 1157154620 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make sure you're where you expect to be. < 1157154667 0 :pikhq_!n=pikhq@67-21-19-37.clspco.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157154690 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1157154695 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq < 1157154759 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, care to help me by figuring out how the code is moving slowly left? < 1157154764 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION really doesn't see it < 1157154770 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<[>-<-][ < 1157154776 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wanted <[>-<-]>[ < 1157154784 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not comparing on the cell you thought you were. < 1157154785 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've fixed that. < 1157154797 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in the pastebin, though. < 1157154803 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh :P < 1157154810 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you /are/ moving left? < 1157154824 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said I was. < 1157154831 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I was wondering where. < 1157154834 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not running it :P < 1157154839 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would've been if you didn't have that > there. < 1157154863 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, to figure out why my if(temp3!=0) bit isn't working. . . < 1157154870 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably just the wrong cell being tested. < 1157154898 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to figure out wtf happened to GregorR and EgoBot >_O < 1157155003 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My home sys is down, dobleve te efe. < 1157155075 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. < 1157155082 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nearly everyone in the competition seems to be using Brainf**k or Befunge :-| < 1157155090 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION curses some more at this code < 1157155153 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One Unlambda, three INTERCALs, and one "Befunge or TheSquare" (which is based on Befunge) < 1157155158 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1157155185 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don' look'a me. < 1157155258 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When the revolution comes, committee members will be shot by Lament." < 1157155279 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whence the "magic contestants"? < 1157155385 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you explain to me how the debug output from egobfi is formatted? < 1157155443 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Paste a line and I'll remember < 1157155463 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0:43|0|0|*43|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0| < 1157155493 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number before the : is the offset being displayed (in this case, the offset is 0, so that 43 is at the 0th cell) < 1157155496 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The * is your pointer < 1157155518 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you're at the third cell, which contains 43 < 1157155528 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157155564 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I've got the memory running away from me. < 1157155617 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I can't figure out where. < 1157155850 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The copy of the code I'm looking at has a "temp1=0; temp1=opcode;" between the 2nd and 3rd cases; is that significant? < 1157155861 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no such between the 1st and 2nd, or 3rd and 4th < 1157156109 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed that. . . < 1157156132 0 :vf0i1vq2SR!n=vf0i1vq2@h-68-166-178-180.dnvtco56.dynamic.covad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157156150 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I've got is a horrendous misalignment of the pointer. < 1157156158 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Welcome to Brainfuck :P < 1157156193 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The loop for + doesn't misalign the pointer. < 1157156201 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other loops move it way off. < 1157156226 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see any difference between them, though. < 1157156254 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=root@unaffiliated/bsmntbombdood JOIN :#esoteric < 1157156256 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latest paste? < 1157156257 0 :vf0i1vq2SR!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1157156306 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a sec. < 1157156343 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/158083 < 1157156426 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha < 1157156438 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you're in a loop, it doesn't land you on the same cell as you started in. < 1157156445 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157156460 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For your plus loop, it looks like you started at temp1 and ended at i < 1157156466 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to get back to temp1 < 1157156469 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and blank it) < 1157156491 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise you could be at either location when you get past that ] < 1157156730 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Oh. < 1157156829 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that doesn't explain why the other loops don't run. < 1157156954 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, aside from them really screwing up the pointer location, that is. < 1157157215 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SGot it. < 1157157218 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157157235 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I got one of the bugs. . . < 1157157250 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still have a general right shift. :'( < 1157157332 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed that, too. < 1157157334 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1157157353 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :working? < 1157157379 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1157157394 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything works. < 1157157398 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYTHING. :) < 1157157436 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o\ < 1157157438 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/o/ < 1157157439 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1157157454 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/o\ < 1157157463 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now, we have a compressor for Brainfuck code. < 1157157499 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ ^o^ (o( /o\ <- the YMCA thing, see? < 1157157518 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION makes the compression program also strip input code's comments < 1157157615 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If one counts stripping comments, it brings down uncompress to 342 characters from 1631. < 1157157622 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1157157627 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :win < 1157157688 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION compresses LostKng.b with his compression program. . . < 1157157746 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jebus. Is it running? < 1157157771 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1157157797 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. No, it's not compressing. It's waiting for input. x_x < 1157157836 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It brought LostKng.b down to 288 kilobytes. < 1157157846 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what? < 1157157866 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.1 megabytes. < 1157157887 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1157158127 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If one compresses without stripping comments, it's 100% lossless. :) < 1157158223 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, shit. < 1157158234 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My comment stripping version is broken. < 1157158242 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well. That's easy enough to fix. < 1157158526 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the comment stripping is *still* broken. . . < 1157158549 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oh, well. That's easy enough to fix. < 1157158572 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. < 1157158596 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite so easy? :-3 < 1157158663 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not seeing the difference between the stripped version and the unstripped version, aside from the lack of comments. . . < 1157158681 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except, of course, that the stripped version doesn't work. < 1157158728 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And when I run them through egobfi-wib, there *is* no difference. < 1157158728 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you loses < 1157158729 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. < 1157158739 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :egobfi-wib? < 1157158743 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm blaming egobfi8. < 1157158745 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1157158755 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... wtf? I didn't make an egobfi-wib >_O < 1157158769 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's wib compiled using egobfc. < 1157158773 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1157158787 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's egobfi :P < 1157158832 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's called egobfi. < 1157158834 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea why. < 1157158845 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err. < 1157158847 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1157158851 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called egobfi-wib. . . < 1157158852 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the PROBLEM is egobfi. < 1157158864 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm really going to blame egobfi. < 1157158867 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1157158872 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's soooooo not EgoBF. < 1157158876 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBF is implicitly flawless. < 1157158922 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But EXplicitly borken :-) < 1157158942 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Om gesh de bork bork? < 1157158943 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1157158954 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/158164 < 1157158961 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/158166 < 1157158968 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, um gesh dee bork bork. < 1157158971 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unstripped and stripped. < 1157159009 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Oh. I see the issue. < 1157159017 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's me misusing input redirection. x_x < 1157159029 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the stripping works perfectly. < 1157159039 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it wasn't EgoBF. < 1157159043 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBF is implicitly flawless. < 1157159058 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now you've got the working decompression code. < 1157159058 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, why egobfi8 instead of egobfc2m? :-P < 1157159087 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :egobfc2m segfaults. < 1157159094 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. What platform? < 1157159098 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMD64. < 1157159102 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that's why. < 1157159107 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't ported it there yet. < 1157159110 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wanna help me? ^^ < 1157159128 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not right now. < 1157159133 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell Haskell Haskell? < 1157159136 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python Python Python? < 1157159143 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curry Curry Curry! < 1157159145 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plof Plof Plof. < 1157159148 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1157159154 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl Tcl Tcl... < 1157159171 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OGEL OGEL OGEL < 1157159177 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could probably rewrite this to handle EOF=-1, so I can use it with awib. . . < 1157159187 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl. < 1157159195 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyPaladin: no, not OGEL. < 1157159200 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not Tcl either. < 1157159295 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay. With compression working and comments being stripped, we've got 356 kilobytes for Lost Kingdom. < 1157159344 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157159365 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*W *W *W. < 1157159367 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C C C. < 1157159407 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ ++ ++ < 1157159409 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell Python Curry Lisp Tcl 1L C, see? < 1157159423 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/1L/++/, if you want to do that. < 1157159425 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. . . < 1157159435 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :J++ J++ J++ < 1157159442 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your thoughts on my compression algorithm? < 1157159443 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Tcl/J++/? < 1157159452 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: is it RLE? < 1157159458 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1157159462 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :J++: best language evar < 1157159472 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sucks. :-P < 1157159490 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's designed for compressing Brainfuck code. < 1157159491 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :harder than a hurricane-powered vacuum cleaner < 1157159499 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF is J++? < 1157159501 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It RLEs only Brainfuck opcodes. < 1157159508 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J_plus_plus < 1157159516 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: Warning: it is vile < 1157159528 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :J# is no better < 1157159541 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is probably the first contestant that's finished. :p < 1157159550 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The one major difference was that Visual J++ applications could only run on Microsoft's Virtual Machine." < 1157159552 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1157159566 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd finish PietHack and enter it if registration wasn't over :-( < 1157159588 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is anyone *doing* a game? < 1157159607 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if anyone is doing anything besides me. . . < 1157159613 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it :P < 1157159663 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Later, I might rewrite the compressor into BF as well. . . < 1157159666 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not right now. < 1157159682 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, PietHack would wipe the floor with all of you :-) < 1157159776 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=? < 1157159799 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Hack-like game written (drawn?) in Piet < 1157159854 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION now has a tarball made. . . < 1157159936 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nickv111.is-a-geek.com:8080/~pikhq/brainfuckCompress.tar.gz < 1157159968 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1157160228 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: That better use autoconf! :P < 1157160246 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: Each C program is a single file. < 1157160258 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't even have fuckin' header. < 1157160260 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1157160261 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I wasn't being sarcastic. < 1157160264 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR WAIT < 1157160266 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE I WAS < 1157160268 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1157160288 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : God I hate you, GregorR. < 1157160293 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care about using autoconf when it's a single call to GCC to compile it. < 1157160308 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't use autoconf for Glass :P < 1157160337 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I might want to make a makefile for it. . . < 1157160381 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157160410 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/0000000000]" < 1157160914 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[.,],[>>>>+<<<<[->>+>+<<<]>>[-<<+>>]>-------------------------------------------<[-]>[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-]>[<<,[>>>[-]<<<->[-]+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.<]>>[-]]<<<[->>+>+<<<]>>[-<<+>>]>---------------------------------------------<[-]>[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-]>[<<,[>>>[-]<<<->[-]+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.<]>>[-]]<<<[->>+>+<<<]>>[-<<+>>]>------------------------------------------------------------<[-]>[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-] < 1157162626 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11fa5b3.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157163369 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Hey. < 1157163388 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the first one to have an entry for the contest, I believe. < 1157163395 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Heh. < 1157163403 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting :). < 1157163412 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which category did you enter? < 1157163421 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nickv111.is-a-geek.com:8080/~pikhq/brainfuckCompress.tar.gz < 1157163426 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compression. < 1157163430 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157163881 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's designed to compress Brainfuck, actually. < 1157163935 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, it does the job fairly well. . . < 1157163989 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LostKng.bfz is 356 kilobytes. ;) < 1157164066 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :416 kilobytes if you don't use the comment stripping version. < 1157164127 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Email it to me for ``official'' credit''. < 1157164143 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay. . . < 1157164155 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though I've already given you a link to the tarball. . . < 1157164175 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your email address, anyways? < 1157164224 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check the discussions page for the contest. < 1157164252 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157164264 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I just realized just why I should stick to Firefox for only Japanese reading. < 1157164279 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, a fellow Gmail user? < 1157164301 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got onto GMail as one of the first members. < 1157164312 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1157164337 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote an article about comparing GMail accounts to the Dutch Tulip Craze to Slashdot, but I guess I wrote a paper heretical to the Slashdot Church. < 1157164340 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got on maybe a few months after they started it. . . < 1157164371 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently, I'm using Google's GMail on your domain beta. ;) < 1157164405 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm known to appear crazed because I have a healthy suspicion against Google :P. < 1157164459 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AP Physics class is so boring and slow right now. Gah, I hope this ``quick pace'' suddenly comes. < 1157164474 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sent. < 1157164475 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean in AP Chemistry, I was definitely gasping for breath to get a hold on the material, but this is just stupid. < 1157164496 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have so much time during class I'm doing all the vector practice problems (when I feel like doing them) via a slide rule. < 1157164504 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes for good slide rule practice. < 1157164520 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more likely to use my graphing calculator. . . < 1157164529 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slide rule = fun < 1157164533 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1157164533 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only because a real RPN calculator just kicks ass. ;) < 1157164541 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, RPN calculator = fun < 1157164570 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Physics teacher got a whole bunch, and I asked if I could borrow one that came with a 70's manual complete with browning and aging. < 1157164579 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My calculus teacher is actually having us use HP calculators. \o/ < 1157164583 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn. Nice. < 1157164609 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did take me a good bit of time to learn how to use it (a good 2.5 hours) but after that I found it pretty easy. Faster than a calculator for trigonometry, IMO. < 1157164658 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Just so you know, I might just rewrite the compression program in BF, as well. < 1157164675 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not in BF? < 1157164696 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the decompression program is in BF. < 1157164702 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see. < 1157164713 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Compression program. (entry must include decompressor and compressor, one of which may be written in a conventional language)." < 1157164716 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1157164734 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm about to start work on Compressed English now. < 1157164745 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . .?!? < 1157164773 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a project whose goal is to create a human-readable highly-compressed form of English. < 1157164780 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157164784 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :While retaining informational properties. < 1157164813 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is curious as to your opinion on his little program. . . < 1157164832 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. I might not be able to judge this weekend :P. < 1157164835 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Newspeak? :-) < 1157164847 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyPaladin: It *will* retain the original grammar. < 1157164862 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike shorthand systems, this is character-equivalent. < 1157164883 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am curious to see how this turns out < 1157164888 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've decided to abbreviate math formulae using pseudo-lambda-style notation. < 1157164915 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way you don't need to mess with annoying rules of precedence. < 1157164917 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Killed by lilo (id uncertain) < 1157164935 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=root@unaffiliated/bsmntbombdood JOIN :#esoteric < 1157164935 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it removes much of the whitespace and syntactical needs of typical formula notation. < 1157164961 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gut idee < 1157164972 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :polish notations ftw < 1157164977 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1157164994 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do y'all think? Should I compress common digraphs into monographs? < 1157165001 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1157165006 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without a doubt. < 1157165012 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmkay. < 1157165016 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even just doing ch/sh/th would be a great saving < 1157165016 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION did it in his psuedo-shorthand thingy. . . < 1157165023 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More than that. < 1157165033 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ch/sh/th/kn/ps is what I'm considering so far. < 1157165038 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ph ? < 1157165048 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That too, I guess. < 1157165052 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ended up just doing diactrics for ch/sh/th/ph/gh. . . < 1157165058 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works rather well. < 1157165075 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes use eth and thorn for th < 1157165078 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was also debating on whether creating a universal ``subject'' character which is accented whether to signify ``I, you, he, she, it, they'' etc...... < 1157165084 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also helps that my psuedo-shorthand is, for the most part, and abjad. . . < 1157165104 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/and/an/ < 1157165108 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Diactrics are already used to compress vowels. < 1157165120 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't write vowels in mine. ;) < 1157165132 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: ah, like in Semitic languages? < 1157165134 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But remember, this is character-equivalent. < 1157165141 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyPaladin: I'm not too familiar with those. < 1157165141 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1157165155 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine never had that goal. < 1157165155 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a test, I *need* to be able to spell X-obscure-explorer's name correctly. < 1157165169 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine was just to cure my boredom, really. < 1157165178 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Hebrew and Arabic are the most common. Hebrew, at least, used to not have any vowels in its written form, but they eventually added them < 1157165201 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Diacritics were presumably chosen because they're easy to add to existing documents without having to rewrite the whole thing < 1157165213 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, actually, I *do* have vowels in mine. It's just mostly used as an abjad, because it's easy to write. . . < 1157165238 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157165243 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_-' < 1157165267 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11fa5b3.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157165281 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're doing the "subject" character, I'd suggest representing having a couple of orthogonal (in meaning, not orientation) diacritics < 1157165300 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg, one for gender, one for quantity, whatever < 1157165302 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is being limited to Latin-1 diacritics. < 1157165323 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I want this to be easily converted to TeX. < 1157165346 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are the ones on the top half of U+0300 ? < 1157165357 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so. < 1157165366 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they may even be in ASCII, I'm not sure. < 1157165386 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in ASCII < 1157165394 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't have any accented characters < 1157165417 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extended ASCII doesen't? < 1157165446 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There're some common precomposed accented characters on page U+0000, yeah < 1157165468 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you talking about precomposed characters, or using the unicode combining chars? < 1157165475 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precomposed. < 1157165479 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1157165490 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what's on U+0300 then :-3 < 1157165493 0 :dbremner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X - compressed English sounds like Robert A Heinlein's Soeedtalk. < 1157165594 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thorn and eth are both on U+0000 (lowercase: FE, F0; uppercase: DE, D0) < 1157165634 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could just pick one for TH to save yourself the hassle of distinguishing between the two cases < 1157166294 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: I just checked, and Latin-1 definitely only covers the first page... are you sure you can't use the Latin-Extended pages as well? You'd get a heckuva lot more possibilities that way < 1157166355 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought newer LaTeX versions could do Unicode. . . < 1157166363 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyPaladin: I could..... < 1157166374 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to get too outlandish here either. < 1157166383 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, all of it. < 1157166432 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, even if you just did a pick-and-choose out of the extended ones, you'd be more likely to get a big set of diacritics for, eg, your "subject" idea < 1157166458 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking to nix the subject idea. < 1157166459 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1157166475 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame < 1157166477 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked it < 1157166503 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll see after this draft. < 1157166625 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. Translation is horribly slow. < 1157166681 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latin-extended-B has the "esh" character for "sh"... I think if you don't do this, I will :-) < 1157166690 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esh? < 1157166697 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I see the character? < 1157166741 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hang on, I screenshot: < 1157166773 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No paste? < 1157166789 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know if it'd be visible on your end < 1157166803 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://greyfire.org/picture_library/latin-extended-b.png < 1157166834 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uppercase: Ʃ Lowercase: ƪ < 1157166838 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That work? < 1157166875 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a unicode font, and yet I can't see the paste.... < 1157166877 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Odd. < 1157166900 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're on row 11, columns 10/11, respectively of that screenshot < 1157166908 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you see *anything*? < 1157166927 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boxes, yeah. Which makes me assume it's my font's fault. < 1157166977 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The think that looks like an odd `k' ? < 1157166978 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The uppercase is basically just like an uppercase sigma, and the lowercase like a back-to-front integral sign with the top hook closed into a circle < 1157167006 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, below the k-likes; just to the right of the reversed-S pair < 1157167018 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :h. < 1157167019 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Ah. < 1157167049 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is probably way to proud of his somewhat simple code. . . < 1157167052 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how can you use that as diacritics? < 1157167099 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I forgot you wanted to do those digraphs as diacritics :-) < 1157167114 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I was just talking about letters that represent those sounds < 1157167138 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess with TeX you can pull off anything, of course < 1157167163 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of borrowing first from the Greek alphabet. < 1157167177 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've already borrowed lowercase theta and uppercase gamma. < 1157167203 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what for? < 1157167233 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and eta too. < 1157167239 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :th, ph, and nt. < 1157167258 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could take Greek chi for CH, then? < 1157167267 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe..... < 1157167324 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chi and eta both need to be clearly distinguished from similar latin characters, I assume you've already dealt with that < 1157167353 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far there should be no conflicts. < 1157167368 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now it's coming out by hand a lot faster than on TeX :P. < 1157167374 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eta/n was one that always cropped up in my maths classes < 1157167392 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1157167404 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find if you give the eta a slightly hooked tail, it helps < 1157167428 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I make the curve start very high and make the right tail extend lower. < 1157167480 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, obviously this was in very fast-handwritten text, so the tails sometimes "shrank" as the author went along... still, worth thinking about if you plan to write some sort of guide < 1157167492 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmm.... maybe..... < 1157167533 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any scans or TeX done so far? I'd like to see what it looks like. < 1157167535 0 :EgoBot!n=EgoBot@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157167547 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157167548 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm handwriting something out right now. < 1157167715 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, now Greek has confined me too much :P. < 1157167725 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1157167831 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's time to start using Japanese :D. < 1157167848 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that's probably a bad idea because of TeX. < 1157167896 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it can do Unicode, they've already merged about a bajillion kanji into unicode, as well as all the katakana and hiragana < 1157167950 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kana does not show up in mine in UTF-8 input. < 1157167984 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ぺ" <-- ? < 1157167997 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my TeX, I meant. < 1157168006 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1157168068 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about latin-extended stuff like esh? < 1157168083 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's plenty of other stuff in L-e you could use too, if that works < 1157168110 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to find a nice table. < 1157168133 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/latin_extended_a.html < 1157168136 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/latin_extended_b.html < 1157168141 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/latin_extended_additional.html < 1157168144 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try those < 1157168180 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're font-dependent, although I guess you'll maybe be wanting to restrict yourself to what your system can represent anyway :-) < 1157168249 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But all three pages have links to the unicode.org PDFs anyway, so you can still see what they look like if there're trubls or difikultis < 1157168350 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmm... Latin-1 isn't showing up in my TeX either. < 1157168362 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm going to have to use the ASCII alternatives. < 1157168379 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means I have to stay in symbols-letter :(. < 1157168382 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even Latin-1?! < 1157168385 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch. < 1157168387 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or symbols-a4) < 1157168592 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you only have ye olde 7-bit ASCII nothing to play with? < 1157168756 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I can use Greek and all using stuff like \`{a} or \theta. < 1157168871 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that actually range over, though? Just Latin-1 accented and basic Greek without diacritics? < 1157168885 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you do \thorn or \eth at all? < 1157168899 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try that. < 1157168912 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1157168925 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I can't do it, others can't either. < 1157168929 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try \varsigma and \varrho to see if you have the extra greek stuff? < 1157168946 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, extra Greek stuff is there. < 1157169014 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, this file might be useful reading: http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/info/plain.csname.txt < 1157169039 0 :dbremner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X - if you want a terser math syntax, look at APL. < 1157169050 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dbremner: How does APL work? < 1157169069 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing really looks quite.... crazy now...... < 1157169076 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But compact. < 1157169087 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says that each of the variants for epsilon, phi, pi, rho, sigma, and theta could be in there. < 1157169125 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be using a cedilla for odd things, tacked onto odd letters/characters. < 1157169125 0 :dbremner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X - consider it as like Matlab except each function is a single character. < 1157169143 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dbremner: Hmmm.... < 1157169153 0 :dbremner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X - like Lisp, it was developed as a nifty formal notation and then someone happened to implement it. < 1157169184 0 :dbremner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X - here's a code example. http://catpad.net/michael/apl/index.html < 1157169199 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone who says that Perl is executable line noise has clearly never seen APL :-) < 1157169236 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehehehe. < 1157169293 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite as vile as TECO macros... that is to programming languages as horror movies are to cinema in general < 1157169479 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL <--> Unicode: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APL_function_symbols < 1157169610 0 :dbremner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X - J and K are newer variants that use ASCII. < 1157169639 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh...... < 1157169650 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then maybe it *isn't* that useful :P. < 1157169667 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1157169675 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL I meant. < 1157169683 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How so? < 1157169699 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, what was the antecedent of your "then"? < 1157169722 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agh. < 1157169740 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then maybe APL *isn't* that useful in Compressed English. < 1157169753 0 :dbremner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyPaladin - evaluation is R to L, no operator precedence. < 1157169755 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My LaTeX won't allow accents on Greek letters -_-''. < 1157169774 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are only a few accented forms used in greek < 1157169787 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you see a - with a cedilla existing anywhere? < 1157169794 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It exists in the TeX world though :P. < 1157169802 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try a diaresis (umlaut) over iota, does that work? < 1157169810 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why his RawIRC client isn't working >_> < 1157169842 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid piece of TeX. < 1157169857 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *need* to be able to accent my Greek letters. < 1157169910 0 :dbremner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X - are you familiar with Ogden's Basic English? < 1157169958 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1157169968 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compressed English is not for regularity. < 1157170418 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dilemna. Dilemna :(. < 1157170597 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the dilemMa? < 1157170711 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to accent the Greek characters, or remake the entire system :P. < 1157170721 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1157170764 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you can do it with Unicode's combining characters (which just scribes the combiner over another character) but besides that you're probably in trouble :-/ < 1157170863 0 :dbremner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X - there's always the ugly way of representing accents in ASCII - /e, \e, etc. < 1157170864 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to have to set down that code before I kill it. . . < 1157170877 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dbremner: That's all I'm doing. < 1157170896 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\`{\theta} produces an error. < 1157171021 0 :GreyPaladin!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GreyIHATEYOU < 1157171125 0 :GreyIHATEYOU!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a remake is in order :-\ < 1157171146 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmm..... < 1157171153 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a convenient way to keep in vowels then. < 1157171217 0 :GreyIHATEYOU!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're using the vowels for your special symbols, via the diacritics? < 1157171223 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1157171230 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not just special symbols but *all* symbols. < 1157171239 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!n=GregorR@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157171249 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1157171253 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It actually makes the handwriting come out very rapid and predictable. < 1157171261 0 :GreyIHATEYOU!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what have you got so far? < 1157171264 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This client rocks. ihope should get a copy of it. < 1157171285 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what is RawIRC like, anyways? < 1157171295 0 :GreyIHATEYOU!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GreyKnight < 1157171304 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's about a quarter of a step above telnet. < 1157171329 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Dude, it's telnet, you must be kidding me. < 1157171344 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is intrigued < 1157171364 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is sending random CTCPs just to be annoying :-) < 1157171377 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I'll bbiab :) < 1157171386 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157171701 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION enquires if direct character-code inserts like \char"A3 function < 1157171718 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\char"A3 ? < 1157171721 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that do? < 1157171733 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should insert character 0xA3 (pound sign) < 1157171754 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!n=GregorR@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157171766 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\char163 should do it in decimal < 1157171769 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^ < 1157171781 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just got another idea, bbiab again. < 1157171785 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157171797 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My TeX doesen't support it. < 1157171805 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1157171809 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Having fun? < 1157171847 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot ^^ < 1157171860 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good, because I'm not. < 1157171877 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cheers up pikhq by doing a little dance < 1157171883 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to rewrite compress.c into Brainfuck. < 1157171900 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to do more on that tomorrow, because. . . Ooow. < 1157171903 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmm. Maybe we can use Metafont to create the accented Greek letters. < 1157172004 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that broke it severely :P < 1157172074 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!n=GregorR@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157172078 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Metafont looks like a royal pain :P. < 1157172080 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome back. < 1157172090 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157172095 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still a bit broken ... < 1157172095 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: see if there's something for you on http://tex.loria.fr/english/fontes.html < 1157172100 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to want to play with RawIRC some time. . . < 1157172140 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now I think it's good. < 1157172142 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the Greek ones don't do it, try looking at the mathematical ones; maths needs lots of weird diacritical combinations on all sorts of characters < 1157172146 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^P = type PRIVMSG for me :) < 1157172154 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That I can do. < 1157172156 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!n=GregorR@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157172163 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yee haw :) < 1157172174 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One more shortcut and this'll be the best IRC client ever :P < 1157172179 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ride 'em, cowboy < 1157172182 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, and auto-ponging. < 1157172230 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But don't you need to be in math mode? < 1157172234 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wanna respond to that? :p < 1157172241 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I don't want CTCP. < 1157172251 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah, I have to go for a walk with my mom. < 1157172256 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-RawIRC: But surely you saw the CTCP VERSION message. :p < 1157172260 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is actually quite nice. I'll have to send this to people. < 1157172263 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1157172276 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives you another CTCP flogging < 1157172280 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1157172293 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CTCP ACTION, baby. :p < 1157172383 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is actually fairly intrigued by that. . . < 1157172389 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Care to send me a copy? < 1157172397 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In just a sec. < 1157172402 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need PING+PONG < 1157172403 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I'll release. < 1157172441 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: decent METAFONT tutorial: http://metafont.tutorial.free.fr/downloads/mftut.pdf < 1157172692 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"BRB" < 1157173102 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!n=GregorR@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157173106 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay :) < 1157173126 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it would be cheating to make it autoremember the last channel you said anything on and have a macro for that... < 1157173265 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, less automatedly ,you could have a "focus" command to select a default channel < 1157173272 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ ,/, / < 1157173362 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shoot, I don't think PING is working >_< < 1157173383 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess not :-) < 1157173397 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see why. < 1157173403 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"BBIAB (again)" < 1157173422 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe make it have multiple server support? < 1157173438 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a chane :P < 1157173441 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chance < 1157173446 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still /mostly/ telnet. < 1157173451 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be glad to write it in. < 1157173456 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be glad to reject it :P < 1157173461 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what screen is for. < 1157173465 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!n=GregorR@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157173478 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, forgot to make the channel thing correspond to a macro :P < 1157173481 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1157173523 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157173625 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes Razor-X and asks if he can see any pretty examples yet :'( < 1157173680 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!n=GregorR@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157173690 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night all. I won't be back until past 8PM my time my tomorrow < 1157173696 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grrf :( < 1157173742 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1157173757 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... now I have no idea why it isn't working >_> < 1157173779 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna do some offline tests. < 1157173782 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157173797 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I got a PING reply from you before you left. . . < 1157173808 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Wrong client. x_x < 1157173834 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's rejoin-spam you're worried about, you can blatter away at #greyknightissuperior; it's my private channel, so there's no-one to bother, really. < 1157174035 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, just takes a while to get online :P < 1157174102 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION really, really, *really* wants to see that. . . < 1157174425 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1157174444 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that DCC wouldn't be that hard to implement with this. < 1157174461 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just have the human user open up a Telnet session to the appropriate port. :p < 1157174604 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/158472 < 1157174616 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!n=GregorR@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157174619 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1157174641 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The macro ^P is PRIVMSG, the macro ^O expands to the latest channel you typed (#esoteric in my case) < 1157174646 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's quite nice :P < 1157174659 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case you didn't realize, you need to know how to use raw IRC commands :P < 1157174679 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what about actions? < 1157174684 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-o < 1157174685 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting a lot of compile errors. . . < 1157174689 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a CTCP message. < 1157174703 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, but is there a macro for it? < 1157174703 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ctcp #esoteric ACTION foo < 1157174707 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my client, that is. < 1157174714 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: No ACTIONS < 1157174718 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsk tsk < 1157174726 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shakes his head sadly. < 1157174729 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Do you have libevent? What OS? < 1157174775 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude, you clearly copied that wrong. < 1157174791 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Click "raw mode" on the pastebin. < 1157174800 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit. < 1157174801 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did. < 1157174807 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1157174835 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, I need to install libevent. < 1157174839 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: Ping? < 1157174848 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I presume you're running a proper OS? < 1157174850 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits on Gentoo < 1157174865 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming Gentoo is proper. :p < 1157174871 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proper = not Windows < 1157174874 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ebuild R ] dev-libs/libevent-1.1a 0 kB < 1157174875 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's got a sane C compiler, it's proper :-P < 1157174877 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. < 1157174878 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have particularly heavy requirements :P < 1157174891 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? Broken ebuild? < 1157174919 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc rawirc.c -levent < 1157174931 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, don't paste huge things to the channel :P < 1157174941 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pasted it in a private message. < 1157174953 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to ask < 1157174954 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh ... hahah, hard to tell the difference in Raw IRC XD < 1157174979 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does this work? < 1157174985 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does. < 1157174994 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah, you can do actions :P ... just not very easily :P < 1157175002 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you do me a favor and tell me how to even get connected with my new binary? < 1157175015 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./a.out irc.freenode.net 6667 < 1157175020 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back-z. < 1157175026 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :USER rawirc localhost localhost :Your Name < 1157175030 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NICK YourNick < 1157175039 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'lo Razor < 1157175051 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should write a Scheme version! < 1157175057 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of RawIRC, I mean. < 1157175064 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor: Yeah, since it's soooooo complicated :P < 1157175070 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly :). < 1157175075 0 :pikhq-me!n=pikhq@67-21-19-37.clspco.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157175076 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-RawIRC: (re ACTION) doing the ^A by hand? < 1157175089 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Yup :P < 1157175094 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whee fun! < 1157175095 0 :pikhq-me!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq-RawIRC < 1157175117 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1157175124 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :P < 1157175130 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nifty, no? < 1157175133 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cause < 1157175138 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1157175154 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to prefix your messages with a ':' < 1157175166 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise we can't see the whole thing. < 1157175174 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like telnet with macros. < 1157175178 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. That would explain a lot. < 1157175184 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1157175191 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Prety much :P < 1157175195 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've never written an IRC bot, pikhq-RawIRC? < 1157175211 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1157175222 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame shame. < 1157175223 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How PATHETIC ;) < 1157175235 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, to try and figure out how to accent my greek letters. < 1157175248 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wheeee. . . < 1157175255 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whát? < 1157175269 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that ``What?'' for me? < 1157175282 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, hence the accent. < 1157175292 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. I didn't see the accent :P. < 1157175297 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1157175304 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. I'm sadly thinking of a lot of features to make this nicer. < 1157175322 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you make it too nice, it's no longer a raw IRC client :P < 1157175323 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Gregor shall kill me for it. < 1157175340 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to find away to get TeX to add grave, acute, and circumflex, and those-circle-thingy accents to Greek letters. < 1157175343 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION summons rodgebot < 1157175343 0 :rodgebot!n=rodge@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157175345 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a lot of clever macros, really. < 1157175351 0 :rodgebot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION joins the IRC fun < 1157175358 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq-RawIRC: Such as? < 1157175359 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs quickly < 1157175376 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq-RawIRC: BTW, like the coloring? No curses :) < 1157175388 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed I do like the coloring. :) < 1157175393 0 :rodgebot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157175406 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes it actually usable as an IRC client :P < 1157175410 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably just a macro for ACTION. . . < 1157175413 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, rodgebot doesn't seem to pass /quit messages... I should do something about that. < 1157175419 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And. . . Hmm. < 1157175448 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[D[D[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C < 1157175453 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1157175456 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having fun? < 1157175457 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay not checking for character codes :P < 1157175464 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[A[D[B[C < 1157175464 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cause I am. < 1157175492 0 :GregorR-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ifndef_GREGOR_H < 1157175497 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I get the same stuff from both irssi and RawIRC. . . < 1157175527 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jebus. I can see myself using this as my main IRC client as soon as I get familiar with raw IRC commands. < 1157175542 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have to type out PRIVMSG? < 1157175551 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it tab-complete that < 1157175571 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: To do an action: ^AACTION does something ^A < 1157175571 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsk... tab-completion < 1157175575 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-p < 1157175585 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ivan`: ^P = "PRIVMSG " < 1157175597 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit too necessary to require a type every time ;) < 1157175598 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try one of those GUI clients < 1157175601 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear they don't blow < 1157175610 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GUI client? < 1157175611 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shudders. < 1157175613 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does something < 1157175613 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ivan`: This is surprisingly good for being raw IRC :P < 1157175624 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I failed. < 1157175626 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq-RawIRC: Still no go. < 1157175634 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION laughs at pikhq < 1157175640 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION there? < 1157175640 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ACTION thing is incredibly lame < 1157175644 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clients should just parse /me < 1157175650 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1157175650 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ivan`: Agreed. < 1157175668 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't get it < 1157175669 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq-RawIRC: You need a ^A both before and after the line < 1157175673 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Maybe tab completion on nicknames could be mildly useful. < 1157175688 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION There, now? < 1157175697 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq-RawIRC: win < 1157175700 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq-RawIRC: That worked ^^ < 1157175706 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1157175709 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I'll stick to ERC. < 1157175718 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Pff, client-using pansy. < 1157175720 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To each her own. < 1157175730 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be quiet, macro-using pansy ;). < 1157175733 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I think I'll join Gregor in that accusation. < 1157175746 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still highly raw IRC. < 1157175747 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Macros for things YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO TYPE < 1157175760 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eXtreme IRC < 1157175766 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're still a pansy, says I. < 1157175780 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real non-pansies don't use ASCII, oh no. < 1157175806 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use telnet irc.freenode.net 6667 < 1157175820 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1157175822 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nc irc.freenode.net 6667 for the win. < 1157175828 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh one time I could actually auth fast enough with telnet < 1157175831 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad I'm not 11 anymore < 1157175834 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ivan`: Razor-X: netcat is hard to use on IRC because it needs \r < 1157175836 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1157175841 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, that was just to Razor-X :P < 1157175841 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can auth fast enough on telnet.... < 1157175853 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifndef_GREGOR_H: I didn't need it last time. < 1157175854 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :real men write the packets straight onto the line < 1157175855 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I look up the spec after I connect < 1157175866 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not that har. . . Oh. < 1157175897 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. This actually kicks ass.  < 1157175918 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION larts pikhq-RawIRC and his random control characters < 1157175920 0 :NonPansy!n=Blah@user-11fa5b3.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157175932 0 :NonPansy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yeah, bub. < 1157175933 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everybody use Raw IRC! :P < 1157175939 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1157175945 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoo. < 1157175952 0 :NonPansy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need no stinkin' \r. < 1157175972 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually going to start using this as my main IRC client. < 1157175981 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me just set some things up here real quick. < 1157175982 0 :pikhq-RawIRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1157175991 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1157175995 0 :NonPansy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RawIRC: You'll get RSI that much faster. < 1157176019 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NonPansy: It's only two strokes more typing than normal. < 1157176036 0 :NonPansy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly < 1157176053 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RSI is not a countdown timer :P < 1157176062 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR IS IT < 1157176082 0 :NonPansy!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157176117 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@67-21-19-37.clspco.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157176139 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wheee. < 1157176146 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1157176151 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in raw IRC, bitches. < 1157176160 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157176180 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whooo < 1157176193 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1157176205 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go pikhq X-P < 1157176236 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@67-21-19-37.clspco.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157176244 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong damned key. < 1157176245 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whooo again < 1157176255 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^C ? < 1157176289 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah, yeah, ^C and ^D != good ideas ;) < 1157176297 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-x C-c instead of C-a C-c < 1157176375 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION explodes. < 1157176393 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to have one major issue. < 1157176396 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1157176410 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The macro doesn't work for & channels. < 1157176410 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typing more than the width? < 1157176418 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's a "major" issue -_- < 1157176421 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try hitting ^S for bonus fun! < 1157176453 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which < 1157176480 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :& != major issue. Typing over the line == major issue. < 1157176534 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157176724 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Testing a fix ... < 1157176726 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"BRB" < 1157176796 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157176815 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome back, you. < 1157176837 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a remarkable simple IRC client. ;) < 1157176887 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And oddly enough, I love it. < 1157176914 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1157176937 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaw. < 1157176951 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"VERSION xchat"? Come on, now. < 1157176970 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GAH. < 1157176972 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :laaaazyyyy < 1157176983 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :METAFONT looks like a pain^(infinity). < 1157176987 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hacking ad RawIRC right now. < 1157176999 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on now, someone send me a CTCP VERSION. :p < 1157177003 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: I didn't think it was THAT bad < 1157177023 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is using this as his main IRC client ATM. < 1157177028 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Look at the algebra near the middle. < 1157177069 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sent you 3, pikhq. < 1157177082 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: page? < 1157177105 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. I lost the page number :(. < 1157177116 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah. I just want to accent Greek letters! -_-''. < 1157177128 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh great hand-written reply pikhq. < 1157177144 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now send me two more of those to mitigate out the other VERSION requests. < 1157177150 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see anything scary < 1157177164 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you write the fonts! :P. < 1157177173 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, I've studied tensor algebra, so it's doubtful the world of vectors holds any fears for me :-) < 1157177189 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not as scary as much as it's annoying. < 1157177203 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems pikhq's client is lagging quite a bit. < 1157177220 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's human parsing. Sorry. < 1157177228 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1157177542 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1157177599 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Success, thy name is MARY. < 1157177601 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah. < 1157177614 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My pinky is starting to hurt from all this control usage. < 1157177615 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\acute{\theta} == ub3r pwnge. < 1157177628 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using it more than I would in Emacs, for God's sake. < 1157177632 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :works? < 1157177632 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1157177640 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RawIRC: You'll get RSI that much faster. < 1157177644 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Seems ta. < 1157177648 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LMAO < 1157177653 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o\ < 1157177655 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/o/ < 1157177657 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1157177683 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1157177699 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: now, examples! < 1157177700 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what would make this IRC client really nice? < 1157177708 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: I know. < 1157177711 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cracks the whip < 1157177713 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make one modification. < 1157177723 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mind-computer interface, so I wouldn't have to type at all. ;) < 1157177731 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait a second. < 1157177742 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A keyboard is a mind-computer interface :P < 1157177753 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's not a direct one. < 1157177780 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfect. < 1157177788 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using n-cedilla for ``nt'', I want to change that and instead use the cedilla for repetition. < 1157177795 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This code would be really good for making a bot, though. . . < 1157177831 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1157177882 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: what about ñ? (n-tilde) < 1157177889 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ is already a used accent. < 1157177897 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll use a umulat. < 1157177911 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is convinced that Gregor only wrote RawIRC to be raw so he could claim to have written a full IRC client without needing to actually parse the protocol. . . . < 1157177914 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n-umlaut? < 1157177923 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. N-umulat. < 1157177924 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I have a .cc IRC core that's easy to attach to. < 1157177931 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explicitly for bots. < 1157177945 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. It's late. I'm not working on anything serious right now. < 1157177965 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now. I'll take one final vote: What do you think on the anonymous subject? < 1157177994 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that too weird for something striving to be syntactically equivalent? < 1157178002 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think it kinda wins < 1157178042 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For ease-of-use, I'd recommend the multi-diacritic approach I mentioned earlier, if TeX pulls that off successfully < 1157178071 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judging from your n-umlaut anecdote, I gather it's composing its own characters, so it should be able to < 1157178093 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, n-diaresis, I guess < 1157178096 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using multi-diacritics now, is the problem. < 1157178123 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example theta-acute-cedilla is ``thee''. < 1157178139 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If something is accented and has a cedilla, the vowel is repeated, if not the consonant is repeated. < 1157178140 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TH-E-repeat ? < 1157178175 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmm.... wait... can I implement a cedilla with Greek letters? < 1157178188 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So "spell" is S,P-acute,L-cedilla ? < 1157178209 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's composing on the cedilla, you should be able to put it on anything < 1157178262 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's right GreyKnight. < 1157178265 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird. < 1157178269 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that ``sp'' is a digraph. < 1157178273 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How goes "spelling", then? < 1157178276 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which has been reduced to Epsilon. < 1157178319 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Epsilon-acute l-cedilla underscore-tilde omega. < 1157178334 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_ being the universal character for vowels. < 1157178362 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC Hebrew has a character for that purpose as well < 1157178447 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wheeeeee! < 1157178459 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a letter "eng" for NG, incidentally < 1157178476 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This IRC client is too much fun. . . < 1157178485 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah. Cedilla refuses to cooperate with Greek letters -_-''. < 1157178498 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: but it resembles eta quite a bit < 1157178510 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: as in not working, or looks wrong? < 1157178515 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not working. < 1157178517 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, the new version actually echoes what you type. The old version didn't, and that was actually a bug (the server echoes what you type) < 1157178526 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, lines also work properly. < 1157178551 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoo. < 1157178560 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First I verify :P < 1157178584 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=GregorR@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157178591 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: if all the greek chars represent two-consanant sequences, I doubt there'll be much call for repeating them < 1157178603 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a very long line, which is being used to test the line-limiting features which have recently been added. It appears to work. < 1157178616 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1157178645 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifndef_GREGOR_H: I am very happy for you. This is another long line, which isn't being used for anything in particular, but just for farts and giggles. < 1157178664 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. You think it'd be possible to semi-automate the logon sequence? < 1157178665 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/raw/158549 < 1157178678 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That I'd agree to, pikhq. < 1157178712 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because \acute is a special ``math mode accent''. < 1157178712 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1157178712 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How 'bout a dot on top? That'll be the repetition character instead. < 1157178712 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, underscore can't accented either :(. < 1157178732 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: But the vowels can repeat, like in ``spelling''. < 1157178734 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Trying new RawIRC version." < 1157178744 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hyphen then. That is the new universal vowel character. < 1157178750 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, duh; silly me < 1157178778 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :overdot works on everything OK? < 1157178792 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@67-21-19-37.clspco.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157178796 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whooo. < 1157178876 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wheee. This, too, is a very, very long line, which I am using for the sole purpose of testing the kick-assness of RawIRC. Hmmm. . . I still need some filler; i've got a very large terminal.[D[C[3~[3~ < 1157178909 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[D[C[3~[3~ ftl < 1157178910 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Add this into a neighborhood LaTeX file: < 1157178912 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\dot{\acute{\epsilon}}{}\dot{l}\~{-}\omega{}|\~{-}s|\`{f}n < 1157178927 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how the sentence ``Spelling is fun!'' looks, without punctuation or capitalization yet. < 1157178929 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm adding auto-login support. < 1157178946 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1157178978 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to go to bed in a bit. It's late. . . < 1157178984 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Errr.... < 1157179009 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\acute{\epsilon}{}\dot{l}\~{-}\omega{}|\~{-}s|\`{f}n < 1157179034 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, auto-login. BRB. < 1157179036 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1157179101 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=RawIRC@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157179113 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1157179115 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a + should be used for explicit capitalization, but only used when capitalization is non-obvious. < 1157179165 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the . represents ``generic'' punctuation. The natural form is the full stop, circumflex-fullstop == exclamation, umulat-fullstop == question-mark. < 1157179167 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1157179179 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/raw/158551 < 1157179181 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wheee. . . < 1157179206 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll ask you for the latest version tomorrow morning; I anticipate you working on it a lot by then. :p < 1157179476 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :έl̇-̃ω -̃ f̀n.̂ < 1157179520 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can read that....yeaaaaaaaaah < 1157179523 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: I could make something that produces utf-8 encodings of the thing < 1157179523 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's it. < 1157179533 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This client needs timestamps :P < 1157179536 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Nifty :). < 1157179543 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm translating a sample paragraph now. < 1157179576 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :epsilon-acute,l-overdot,hyphen-tilde,omega; hyphen-tilde,s; f-grave,n; dot-circumflex < 1157179585 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn right it does. < 1157179588 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually forgot the 's' in my UTF-8 sample :-( < 1157179601 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :έl̇-̃ω -̃s f̀n.̂ < 1157179610 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that'd make it less Raw. < 1157179620 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1157179662 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could probably make the time-stamps look like they're part of the sent IRC command, though. . . < 1157179677 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHEATER < 1157179677 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's correct GreyKnight. < 1157179682 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how it looks compressed. < 1157179687 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1157179696 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll make a decoder too :-) < 1157179743 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An example of + in action? < 1157179761 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what about the maths idea you mentioned earlier? Any progress there? < 1157179786 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ow, my eyes. . . < 1157179801 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not yet GreyKnight. < 1157179849 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does + prefix the letter it capitalizes? < 1157179907 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"A little bit more colorization ..." < 1157179909 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1157179913 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only if it's not obvious. < 1157179933 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :& represents and, % represents of, ~ represents not. < 1157179946 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=RawIRC@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157179954 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ! should represent but. < 1157179959 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about "the"? < 1157179963 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157179979 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far it's just theta-grave. < 1157179988 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Errr... < 1157179990 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Theta-acute. < 1157179996 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=RawIRC@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157180026 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfect :) < 1157180030 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aeiou = ?,acute,tilde,?,grave < 1157180075 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = circumflex, o = circle-thingy. < 1157180083 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ring" < 1157180086 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1157180120 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, this looks just fine IMHO < 1157180129 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can read it quite nicely. < 1157180136 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It now highlights the name as well as the message. < 1157180154 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :th = theta, ph = Gamma, ng = omega, sp = epsilon, ch = mu, nd = \th, nt = n-umulat. < 1157180163 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you do a "permille" sign? (looks like a % with an extra circle on the bottom) < 1157180174 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll see. < 1157180200 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\permille isn't recognized. < 1157180227 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to think of an escaping for %, if it's being used as a significant symbol < 1157180242 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "%%" would do, since "of of" won't appear in english text :-) < 1157180242 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1157180255 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, nevermind, heh. < 1157180264 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of should be @ then. < 1157180298 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or.... < 1157180310 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hesitating to use *, because that's difficult to handwrite. < 1157180348 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, Razor-X, GreyKnight, I haven't been following your convo at all :P ... the brief? ^^ < 1157180363 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about '='? That's unlikely to crop up outside of an equation, which you said you were going to handle specially in any case < 1157180378 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifndef_GREGOR_H: I'm trying to make Compressed English, it's a form of English that's highly compressed but human readable for situations for when compressed text is neccessary. < 1157180392 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmm. I was thinking of = too. < 1157180393 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm a helper! < 1157180406 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, = is pretty good. And @ should represent ``at''. < 1157180421 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is pretty much what it does anyway :^) < 1157180465 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah. Must go and pick up pizza :(. < 1157180472 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll finish this translation when I come back. < 1157180484 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, you have to pick up pizza, how tragic :P < 1157180488 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait: < 1157180491 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmm? < 1157180494 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nd = \th" ? < 1157180500 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\th in LaTeX, yeah. < 1157180528 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which looks like...? < 1157180559 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw man... I'm gonna have to open *eX again to find out :'( < 1157180563 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dramatic sigh* < 1157180569 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah. I guess it doesen't work. < 1157180578 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though the manual *says* so. < 1157180581 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I must go. < 1157180616 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll find you an alternative < 1157180666 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will recommend \Delta when he gets back < 1157180904 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION also recommends \plusminus as the opposite of the + operator (lowercases letters you'd expect to be uppercase) < 1157182528 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@112.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157182771 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157182775 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good ideas. < 1157183365 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naturally < 1157183369 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were mine :-) < 1157183999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1157184000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1157184240 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's my ideas that are implicitly good. < 1157184245 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, RawIRC? Come on! < 1157184300 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awful, as always ;). < 1157184681 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised just how intuitive this system is. < 1157184815 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to pull out some more Greek characters.... < 1157184966 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to encode what? < 1157185461 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added two new digraphs, wh = \sigma, st = \pi. < 1157185505 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just finished the first translation (on paper) of Compressed English. < 1157185899 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could read most of it without trouble. < 1157185909 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is nice. < 1157185947 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to write some LaTeX macros and hopefully easy the pain of all the accents and Greek letters :P. < 1157186031 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :th,ph,ng,sp,ch = theta, Gamma, omega, epsilon, mu < 1157186040 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nd,nt,wh,pi = Delta, n-diaresis, sigma, pi < 1157186067 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@&=~! = at/and/for/not/but < 1157186094 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-+± = floating vowel/capitalize next/decapitalize next < 1157186121 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't forget nt = \eta. < 1157186125 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1157186144 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I have that as n-diaresis < 1157186206 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and circumflex-fullstop == exclamation, umulat-fullstop == question-mark, and ring-fullstop == comma. < 1157186250 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tentative: diaresis-fullstop == colon, tilde-fullstop == semicolon. < 1157186809 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : th = theta, ph = Gamma, ng = omega, sp = epsilon, ch = mu, nd = \th, **nt = n-umulat.** < 1157186819 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, nt is eta now? < 1157186887 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nd = \Delta < 1157186907 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.... hmmm...... < 1157186916 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that was a paste of your earlier one < 1157186926 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you suggest, Eta, or n-umulat? < 1157186976 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : The RNG says: eta < 1157186985 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bots: is there any problem they *can't* solve? < 1157186997 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1157187012 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used Eta, but if it confuses with n, I'd use n-umulat. < 1157187089 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say stick with Eta. < 1157187095 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1157187117 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I was about to mention that Rodney is notorious for making bad decisions :-3 < 1157187187 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P. < 1157187638 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your tentative diaresis-fullstop (for ':') kinda conflicts with umlaut-fullstop (for '?') < 1157187642 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157187654 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since there's little typographical difference < 1157187697 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, I think unicode only has one combiner do do < 1157187705 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* to do both of them < 1157187723 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, h8 enter keys) < 1157187740 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157187798 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157187830 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm laboriously typing this up :P. < 1157187908 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do macrons? (overbar) < 1157188012 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1157188021 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you get LaTeX to ignore errors... hmmmm..... < 1157188098 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157188323 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Updating RawIRC" < 1157188369 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=RawIRC@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157188369 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157188570 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=RawIRC@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157188605 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157188653 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=RawIRC@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157188666 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muahahahahahah >:) < 1157188945 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: I say use macron for '?' and diaresis for ':' < 1157188977 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I'm gonna use my LC580 ^^" < 1157189264 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=RawIRC@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157189275 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muahahahah 8-D < 1157189286 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am now chatting from my incredible Macintosh LC580 :P < 1157189293 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately this blue is very difficult to read :( < 1157189396 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157189517 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=RawIRC@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157189517 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157189534 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=RawIRC@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157189534 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157189571 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=RawIRC@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157189650 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is much better. More readable on this ancient screen. < 1157189658 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Mac now has a purpose :P < 1157189747 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157189752 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot about one thing ... < 1157189756 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Mac is a bit ... loud. < 1157189760 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1157189767 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157189775 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not condusive to sleeping. < 1157189863 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=RawIRC@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157189881 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back on my main box. < 1157190036 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done :). < 1157190050 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adding the English now. < 1157190334 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://anysize.org/~sukoshi/compressedtest.pdf < 1157190931 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? < 1157191017 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, was afk dealing with screaming child < 1157191019 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1157191076 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157191217 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I missing something in the encoding of "stand"? < 1157191266 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like "p̂iΔ" (p-circ,i,Delta) < 1157191416 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I expected "st-circ,Delta" < 1157191555 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I notice you've stripped the em-dash between "characteristic" and "they", and that "they" has been encoded as "thetay" :-o < 1157191661 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this pair of close vertical lines after the parentheses an encoding of ", but" ? < 1157191789 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k, I'm done criticizing now :-3 < 1157191799 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, it looks good! < 1157191873 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes Razor-X < 1157191997 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION deathpokes Razor-X < 1157192133 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya. < 1157192208 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of those errors are sleepy transliteration errors. < 1157192220 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The paper one is ``correct''. < 1157192226 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How difficult was it to read? < 1157192283 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you get used to it, easy enough < 1157192306 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I just noticed the "not" hasn't shown up either :-P < 1157192359 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1157192383 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to create some LaTeX macros to ease this out. < 1157192398 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or in general some LaTeX fonts, if I'm up to it. < 1157192404 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :were the em-dash stripping and || --> ", but" errors or actual things? < 1157192421 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sorry. < 1157192448 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--> == Greater ``emphasis'', used with titles of passages, important headings, can be used to abbreviate outlines, etc. < 1157192471 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The effect lasts 'till the end of the ``macrosentence'', delimited by || (here delimiting paragraphs). < 1157192586 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the odd || after the parenthetical remark? < 1157192606 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a ", but" missing there, so I figured it might be deliberate < 1157192659 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I typed the TeX wrong. < 1157192668 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1157192689 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second | is actually a !. < 1157192699 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's your missing ``but''. < 1157192757 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-e33fe155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1157192785 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the "," had been typoed out of existence altogether :o) < 1157192819 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I will plot a utf-8 en/decoder < 1157192887 0 :jix!n=jix@L63b9.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157192904 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you spot this part amongst Gregor's joinspam? Razor-X: I say use macron for '?' and diaresis for ':' < 1157193988 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for values of "you" equal to "Razor-X" < 1157194547 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157194856 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X is ignoring me ;-; < 1157196316 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1157196404 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-23-247.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157196852 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifndef_GREGOR_H: pong-ping < 1157197065 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1157200530 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-61-69.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157200978 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h51.245.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157201024 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :notCakeProphet < 1157201545 0 :wooby!n=alan@ny-lancastercadent4g1-3a-236.buf.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157201628 0 :notCakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CakeProphet < 1157202779 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Be right back after this short break:" < 1157203190 0 :GreyKnight!n=wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157203637 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157205815 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1157207153 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rages on Razor-X < 1157207232 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands GreyKnight a fizzy potion < 1157207281 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION breaks the fizzy potion over Razor-X's head < 1157207590 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands GreyKnight another fizzy potion < 1157207611 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smashes that one on Razor-X's noggin also < 1157207800 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands GreyKnight yet another fizzy potion < 1157207842 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does the needful with Razor-X's cranium and some potion-smashing < 1157207962 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands GreyKnight two fizzy potions < 1157207985 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doubleshots Razor-X on both temples simultaneously! < 1157208010 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands GregyKnight three fizzy potions < 1157208080 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wields one in his left hand, one in his right hand, and holds the other between his teeth. < 1157208105 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION executes Wild Crazy Lotus Fury on Razor-X! < 1157208756 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /me hands GreyKnight five fizzy potions < 1157208764 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, you get the idea. < 1157208782 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands GreyKnight five fizzy potions < 1157208801 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tosses one at ihope_ for bad typing < 1157208824 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION attempts to catch it, but fails < 1157208858 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pours out the contents of the potion, and hmms as the bottle disappears < 1157208916 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION readies the other four... < 1157208943 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUPER DEATH NINJA PIRATE ZOMBIE ROBOT HYPER MEGA HEART MARSHMALLOW POWAHHH < 1157208975 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION brushes up Razor-X's remains. < 1157209015 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands GreyKnight eight fizzy potions < 1157209041 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION begins juggling them < 1157209095 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands GreyKnight five more fizzy potions < 1157209113 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION integrates them into the juggle < 1157209135 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION starts catching them as they come down and tossing them at Razor-X! Crash! Crash! Crash! Crash! Crash! Crash! Crash! Crash! Crash! Crash! Crash! Crash! Crash! < 1157209183 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands GreyKnight a cookie sheet with 21 fizzy potions on it < 1157209433 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks bemusedly at the "cookie sheet" < 1157209631 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes it to see if it will attack him < 1157209702 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION searches... < 1157209704 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1: http://www.fantes.com/cookie_sheets.htm < 1157209706 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/c-bkwspci.jsp < 1157209708 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3: http://www.epinions.com/hmgd-Cooking-Bakeware-All-7398552-Cookie___Baking_Sheets < 1157209709 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4: http://www.taunton.com/finecooking/pages/c00186.asp < 1157209711 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...plus about 10 more results for ""cookie sheet"". < 1157209720 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1157209730 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feeds the cookie sheet to his pet Xorn. < 1157209793 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION loads the potions into a potion launcher < 1157209811 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION aims at Razor-X < 1157209827 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pew pew pew pew pew pew pew* < 1157210013 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pushes a table carrying thirty four fizzy potions in GreyKnight's direction < 1157210063 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION picks up Razor-X's corpse and hurls it upwards with all his strength. It disappears into the clouds... < 1157210119 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Macron? < 1157210138 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomigosh he came back to life < 1157210146 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :macron == overbar < 1157210179 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the x-width one if you have more than one) < 1157210215 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She. I slept. < 1157210220 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1157210256 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see the harm in that. < 1157210257 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He/She/It/They < 1157210461 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It! It! It! < 1157210701 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to do t3h morning vocabulary. < 1157210805 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION adds twenty-one potions to the table < 1157210821 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I don't mean potions of booze. < 1157211843 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION throws a potion at GreyKnight < 1157211854 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it misses! < 1157211866 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wheels the table of potions out of #esoteric < 1157211980 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Show's over < 1157212087 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pours some potion mix into the Pacific Ocean < 1157212102 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, now the Pacific consists entirely of fizzy potion. < 1157212402 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1157212432 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: http://greyfire.org/file-repository/comprenglish.txt < 1157212466 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :acknowledge! < 1157212645 0 :smokecfh!n=user@53549344.cable.casema.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1157212832 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spanish! < 1157212990 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157213011 0 :Sph1nx!n=sphinx@89-178-9-102.broadband.corbina.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1157213124 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1157213140 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h51.245.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157213163 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: d'you think I should go a head and implement the en/decoders? < 1157213169 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'mma think yes. < 1157213179 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1157213190 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the aforementioned link < 1157213210 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you saw the whole discussion, right? < 1157213229 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... I don't think so. < 1157213305 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-\ < 1157213327 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a compressed form of english designed to be human-read/writeable < 1157213398 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly buggy test: http://anysize.org/~sukoshi/compressedtest.pdf < 1157213798 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: New version out? < 1157213959 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157214077 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compressed form of English... lemme see here. < 1157214163 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: what language should I write in? Any thoughts? < 1157214176 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked the RNG, but it said boring old C :'( < 1157214181 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ = th, ! = on, @ = er, # = in, $ = he, % = re. < 1157214213 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~at makes c@ta# ~ngs short@. < 1157214238 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X's diacriticizes the vowels and encodes common consonantal digraphs < 1157214255 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, double consonants are encoded < 1157214271 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some common words like "and", etc < 1157214304 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ = at, & = ti, * = the, ( = nt, ) = ed, _ = en, + = te, ` = es, - = or, = = to. < 1157214482 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 bottl` of be@ ! * wall... < 1157214616 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 b̊ṫĺs -̊f b́-́r -̊n θ́ ŵl̇... < 1157214624 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(UTF-8) < 1157214685 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's slightly shorter than mine, length-in-my-proportional-font-wise. < 1157214725 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1157214766 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The symbols seem to be chosen for similarity too, so it's easy to read/write < 1157214774 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ = st, } = an, | = co, [ = ha, ] = me, \ = as, : = al, " = it, < = se, > = ea, ? = ve, , = is, . = nd, / = le. < 1157214796 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think adding MORE symbols to remember is the answer here :-P < 1157214904 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!seen simonrc < 1157214906 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1157214911 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gj EgoBot < 1157215026 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 bott/s of be@ ! * w:l < 1157215683 0 :jix!n=jix@L63b9.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157216193 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9-cedilla b-ring t-cedilla l-acute s | hyphen-ring f | b-acute-cedilla r| hyphen-ring n | theta-acute | w-circumflex l-cedilla|. < 1157216281 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21 characters versus 30 characters. < 1157216535 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screw it; I'm getting sick of RawIRC. < 1157216547 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1157216547 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"RawIRC" < 1157216613 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@67-21-19-37.clspco.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157216643 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Thank you, sir, for making me see IRC in a whole new light. < 1157216654 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RawIRC Experiment: Failure. < 1157216668 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't believe you've never attempted a Netcat session in IRC before. < 1157216707 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RawIRC does kick ass, I must admit. I just want to back to the much more comfortable realms of irssi. < 1157216872 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RawIRC? < 1157216945 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's something Gregor's been working on. < 1157216946 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It kicks ass in a ``I-like-to-do-things-the-obtusely-difficult-way'' way (like Esoteric programming languages!) :P. < 1157216966 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: And that's exactly why it kicks ass. ;) < 1157216978 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it have a website? < 1157216990 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not yet. < 1157216999 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of writing a Scheme port with some changes. < 1157216999 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a webpage? < 1157217007 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just as a proof-of-concept. < 1157217487 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157219147 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157219153 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1157219170 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rawr. < 1157219185 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo < 1157219191 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's it going? < 1157219210 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rawr? < 1157219226 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Rawr. < 1157219334 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's figure out a way to move this channel across servers and set redirects that send people across servers. < 1157219381 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could use inter-server-bots < 1157219395 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could. < 1157219398 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sit on all instances of the channel on all the servers, and echo stuff back and forth < 1157219411 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: why do you want to move servers? < 1157219414 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What we really need to do is somehow attach Freenode to EFNet. < 1157219434 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do we do anything on here? < 1157219438 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I didn't say that. I said find a way to do it :-P < 1157219445 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just thought ere might be a reason :) < 1157219451 0 :Sph1nx!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" !" < 1157219470 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So who's going to hack into one of the Freenode servers and attach it? < 1157219499 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a long time ago I wrote a cross-server bot in pirch script :) < 1157219595 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say, I gotta remember to use PCON at the next possible opportunity. < 1157219667 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: if you're serious about this whole channel joining thing, I have a shell that I can run bots on < 1157219678 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm assuming there is software that is good for this < 1157219713 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, it'd just be cool :-) < 1157219727 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make sure the bots flood-protect themselves, otherwise somebody flooding themselves off on one server will kill the bots on the other ones :-o < 1157219745 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, still.. what software? :) < 1157219828 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before servers cracked down on bots I had a cool idea to have it join again for each person in the channel.. then it would almost be like they were there < 1157219833 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ORK. < 1157219847 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yerk < 1157219853 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :freakish idea < 1157219855 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ORSK < 1157219868 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes not ;) < 1157219876 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, as soon as I bother writing the mailman and phone class. . . < 1157219888 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like irc.servercentral.net allows bots. < 1157219995 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might as well ask here too :) I'm looking for a free cross-platform game (family-friendly). Something fun for a LAN party. Any ideas? < 1157220035 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BZflag? < 1157220091 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that's been suggested :) thanks < 1157220094 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC? < 1157220096 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :downloading it now actually < 1157220097 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1157220101 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: hah < 1157220107 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC \o/ < 1157220124 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRPG < 1157220160 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a multiplayer Hunt The Wumpus < 1157220182 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hunt the Wumpi? < 1157220190 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a single player htw in linguine :) < 1157220216 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wumpuses" < 1157220220 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly ihope :-P < 1157220223 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most people would enjoy some kind of flashy graphics and sound ;) < 1157220232 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could even have some players being wumpuses! < 1157220348 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah.. from the IRC bot wikpedia page: The original IRC bot was GM, written by IRC server operator Greg Lindahl, whose IRC nickname was Wumpus. GM played a game of Hunt the Wumpus with users who communicated with it over IRC. < 1157220357 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? < 1157220363 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a SIGN < 1157220366 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must do it < 1157220375 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a sign of extreme nerddom < 1157220394 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wallops calamari with a +1/+1 sword of nerdery < 1157220397 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't say I'm not tempted.. but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't go over well ;) < 1157222266 0 :vf0i1vq2SR!n=vf0i1vq2@h-68-166-178-180.dnvtco56.dynamic.covad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157222282 0 :vf0i1vq2SR!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1157223200 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nice to be writing LISP in an editor that understands it :-) < 1157223475 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, it's nice to use Emacs. < 1157223503 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing it in vi is doable, but not as easy :-) < 1157223757 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157225400 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish nCurses was written into the GNU/MIT Scheme standard :(. < 1157225407 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has X Windows support, but not nCurses. < 1157225413 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phaw. < 1157225692 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/X windows/X/ < 1157225738 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and s/nCurses/Ncurses/ :) < 1157225803 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine :P. < 1157225808 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/X/XXX Winblows/ ;-) < 1157225828 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has Win32 GUI API support too. < 1157225846 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c/vi/xedit/* * < 1157225847 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Win32/Bwahaha/ < 1157225918 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/.*/legally/ < 1157225939 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s//legally/g < 1157225956 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what ihope's pattern is trying to prove < 1157225966 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'm not mistaken, that'll result in legallyllegallyelegallyglegallyalegallyllegallyllegallyylegally. < 1157225988 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something equally bizzare < 1157226180 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so.. software for this bot, or has interest approached 0? < 1157226430 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interest is approaching 0. Some quantity can't have approached some other quantity, as far as I know. < 1157226432 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1157226468 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1157226506 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bzflag is taking a while to compile < 1157226537 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bzflag is awsome < 1157226544 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you use the --compile-in-less-than-an-imperial-century option? < 1157226555 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, I forgot :( < 1157226560 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1157226565 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1157226630 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers adding "imperial century" to his copy of units(1) < 1157226756 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imperial century? < 1157226884 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, a metric century is 100 years (10*10), and an imperial one is 289 years (17*17) < 1157226888 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers getting off his ass and doing something < 1157226899 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes about as much sense as any *real* imperial unit :-) < 1157226978 0 :smokecfh!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157226992 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that means that an imperial decade is 1/254.5 of an imperial century? :p < 1157227017 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an imperial decade is 17 years < 1157227038 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes too much sense to just square the amount of decades. < 1157227053 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1157227055 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so < 1157227079 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be 14 years for a decade and 17 decades in a century < 1157227098 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for 238 years per imperial century < 1157227116 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The imperial decade shall be defined in terms of seconds. pi^(10^1000) seconds. :p < 1157227142 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no no < 1157227147 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be ridiculous :-) < 1157227177 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at all the round numbers in that formula! < 1157227229 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those parentheses are unnecessary. pi^10^1000 would do. < 1157227243 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (expt 10 1000) < 1157227245 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> 0 < 1157227250 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, doesn't throw error on overflw < 1157227253 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* overflow < 1157227256 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has overflows? < 1157227279 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it currently just translates to host integers < 1157227293 0 :esobridge!n=bridge@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157227293 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157227301 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1157227306 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll implement proper arbitrary-precision arithmetic when I put in non-integral numbers :-3 < 1157227316 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :esobridge < 1157227326 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make sure to do them as Church numerals. < 1157227354 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1157227371 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: what is that do eval thing? < 1157227378 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be sure to make a reader macro for doing church < 1157227387 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :calamari < 1157227394 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: GK-Deformed-Lisp < 1157227406 0 :esobridge!n=bridge@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157227408 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so-called because it's horribly mutated and deformed :-3 < 1157227428 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: written in? < 1157227429 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--> calamari (~calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net) has joined #esoteric < 1157227434 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<calamari> hi < 1157227438 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP, of all things :-) < 1157227442 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1157227443 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, calamari < 1157227447 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you hear us? < 1157227454 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<calamari> yes < 1157227457 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1157227472 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1157227473 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait just a... while. < 1157227487 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't leave. < 1157227493 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--> ihope (~ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #esoteric < 1157227497 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ihope> BOO! < 1157227502 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aah! < 1157227516 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ihope> We can hear you >:-) < 1157227524 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, it seems to work :) < 1157227532 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esobridge: help < 1157227536 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h51.245.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157227538 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1157227538 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries a private message < 1157227552 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ihope> Hmm. < 1157227552 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1157227554 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: /msg esobridge help < 1157227556 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is the other channel? < 1157227559 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--> jix (~jix@L63b9.l.strato-dslnet.de) has joined #esoteric < 1157227565 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah found it ^^ < 1157227572 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<calamari> hi jix < 1157227585 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is kind of annoying < 1157227592 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: help is borken :'( < 1157227593 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<jix> does it spam? < 1157227594 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<jix> does it spam? < 1157227595 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<jix> does it spam? < 1157227596 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<jix> does it spam? < 1157227597 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<jix> does it spam? < 1157227598 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<jix> does it spam? < 1157227598 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1157227599 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<jix> does it spam? < 1157227600 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<jix> does it spam? < 1157227601 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<jix> does it spam? < 1157227605 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not good :) < 1157227609 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157227614 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ihope> It seems laggy. < 1157227621 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam reduction measures needed! < 1157227623 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ihope> I'd estimate a second or two. < 1157227623 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only in efnet => freenode < 1157227625 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, working help. < 1157227629 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other way arround it's fast < 1157227632 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, because I am downloading a bunch of Ubuntu updates < 1157227646 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bzzt. < 1157227652 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still about a second. < 1157227653 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- jix (~jix@L63b9.l.strato-dslnet.de) has left #esoteric < 1157227661 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h51.245.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157227670 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ihope> Oh, it doesn't do part messages. < 1157227681 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--> GreyKnigh (~wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) has joined #esoteric < 1157227684 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ihope> And /me is wonky :-) < 1157227695 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION GreyKnigh <3 esobridge < 1157227718 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION calamari wonders < 1157227726 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay that's weird :P < 1157227733 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- ihope is now known as thinks < 1157227746 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks GregorR should jump off a cliff < 1157227748 0 :Kurt!n=rerunvan@evvlinlwt-nas-07-s61.cinergycom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157227749 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see the part message < 1157227763 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<GreyKnigh> ihope wins < 1157227767 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- thinks is now known as ihope < 1157227779 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : <-- jix (~jix@L63b9.l.strato-dslnet.de) has left #esoteric < 1157227783 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No part message. < 1157227798 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the part reason < 1157227803 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- GreyKnigh (~wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) has left #esoteric < 1157227816 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried a reason, didn't work :'( < 1157227823 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixor it < 1157227825 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ihope> ...Yeah, that. < 1157227834 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<calamari> it is gpl, you fixor it ;) < 1157227839 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wai < 1157227856 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ihope> It's your client or the server or something that doesn't support part messages. < 1157227858 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am writing an en/decoder for Razor-X's latest < 1157227884 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did my part reason show up normally in the channel? < 1157227901 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<calamari> nope < 1157227910 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My client definitely does them, so I guess it's efnet < 1157227912 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<calamari> but jix's did < 1157227917 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-o < 1157227921 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-| < 1157227927 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-? < 1157227942 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ihope> Maybe the server you're on doesn't support it. < 1157227943 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--> GreyKnigh (~wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) has joined #esoteric < 1157227954 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1157227955 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, is there any point to fixing the bridge.. seems kinda annoying < 1157227956 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- ihope (~ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has left #esoteric < 1157227973 0 :GreyKnight!n=wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157227977 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixing it? < 1157227992 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :part messages, spamming < 1157228033 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those esobridge is very annoying < 1157228039 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1157228049 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be okay if it duplicated nicks < 1157228055 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--> monik (99@200.123.187.149) has joined #esoteric < 1157228060 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why span a channel over several networks? < 1157228065 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for fun! < 1157228080 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did that with another channel a time ago... it was just annoying < 1157228082 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it should specify the network when referencing channels like that. < 1157228112 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--> monik (99@200.123.187.149) has joined efnet/#esoteric < 1157228115 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bridge a network to itself! < 1157228123 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ spam laser! < 1157228140 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, use two bridgebots! < 1157228148 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and you might as well reference the nicks by server instead of the channels. < 1157228148 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can do multiple bridges < 1157228169 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two bridgebots, both doing the same pair of networks. < 1157228183 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we can do undernet too < 1157228188 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not filtering each other's messages < 1157228205 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, of course not. < 1157228212 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where'd be the fun in that? < 1157228220 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spam. < 1157228231 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spam, spam, spam, spam. < 1157228317 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- GreyKnigh has quit (Quit: I don't need to be on BOTH channels...) < 1157228330 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it catches /quit messages, anyway :-3 < 1157228338 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157228343 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GASP! < 1157228343 0 :esobridge!n=bridge@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157228347 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157228352 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1157228353 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1157228356 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not every day you get to see your own quit! < 1157228357 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was adding undernet < 1157228358 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good job. < 1157228378 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just put a bot in the other networks telling people to go to freenode < 1157228381 0 :esobridge!n=bridge@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157228383 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157228420 0 :esobridge!n=bridge@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157228424 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157228455 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :having a seg fault problem < 1157228462 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to see what this guy did wrong :P < 1157228541 0 :esobridge!n=bridge@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157228572 0 :esobridge!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157228578 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1157228584 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x080515b0 *** < 1157228585 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aborted < 1157228592 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how nice < 1157228596 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo, double-free < 1157228630 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bt ftw? < 1157228635 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's free of doubles. < 1157228638 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways.. done with this? < 1157228641 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's written in C, is it? < 1157228644 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1157228653 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scrap it and write it in a memory-safe language :-P < 1157228657 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python < 1157228662 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisp \o/ < 1157228676 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: I'll leave that project in your capable hands < 1157228679 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, heck, do it in an esoteric language! < 1157228707 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OGEL can be extended to perform network operations < 1157228711 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: yeah, wish I could get PESOIX to work < 1157228762 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what if I replaced some of the stdio calls with LD_PRELOAD < 1157228767 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might work < 1157228849 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF is esobridge :P ... where was the channel it bridged to? < 1157228859 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :efnet/#esoteric < 1157228868 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's quite pointless. < 1157228874 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fun < 1157228880 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, importantly, esoteric < 1157228913 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157228944 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: a crappily written gpl bridge program I found off google < 1157228968 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, CakeProphet's connection has been going up and down faster than a stack pointer in a tight loop < 1157228981 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h51.245.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157228986 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1157228994 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bahahahaha < 1157228997 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was brilliant. < 1157229000 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've taken over efnet/#esoteric! < 1157229006 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :onoz < 1157229014 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1157229018 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157229020 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: good job, that must have been tough < 1157229024 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: You were using telnet for your IRC client for a while, right? < 1157229051 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esp since no one was in the channel < 1157229061 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifndef_GREGOR_H: something like that, yeah. < 1157229074 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: http://www.codu.org/rawirc.c < 1157229096 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's telnet + auto-ping-ponging + colorization for IRC protocol. < 1157229114 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, + ^P expands to PRIVMSG and ^O expands to the last channel you typed. < 1157229116 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ about two macros < 1157229124 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, those :-) < 1157229140 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: http://www.codu.org/rawirc.png < 1157229185 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohh, cool :-) < 1157229210 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- Using it right now >:) < 1157229256 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And your nick's intruding on the space the messages are supposed to go in on my client. < 1157229261 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION chops off the _H < 1157229276 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bahahaha < 1157229291 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this nick is clever and original ... if you use C[++] :P < 1157229309 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O RLY < 1157229323 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifndef_GREGOR_H: you should join #ifndef..... < 1157229359 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: Doesn't exist :P < 1157229378 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does... i would get ops if it didn't right? < 1157229391 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or rather, it's registered but unused. < 1157229397 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1157229422 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Contact: parasite-, last seen: 3 years 4 weeks 4 days (7h 54m 40s) ago < 1157229446 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember from ##brainfuck that that last seen is NOT the last time they were on the network. < 1157229472 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::NickServ!NickServ@services. NOTICE ifndef_GREGOR_H : Last Seen: 42 weeks 3 days (9h 13m 19s) ago < 1157229600 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm is there a lisp interpreter written in bash? < 1157229648 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) If there is, that's horrific. 2) Probably. < 1157229675 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a forth interpreter written in bash < 1157229680 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why not a lisp oneß < 1157229699 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there isn't, there should be :-) < 1157229784 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ß, eh? < 1157229798 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ßuperb < 1157229812 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: well shift+ ß == ? on de keyboards < 1157229816 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ß iß not an English letter. < 1157229826 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ißn't it? < 1157229833 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I don't think it iß. < 1157229841 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ßhame. < 1157229855 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ß ißn't needed if you talk in all capital letterß. < 1157229868 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU JUST SAY SS INSTEAD. < 1157229876 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SSUPERB < 1157229909 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's DASS, not DAß, unless you need to distinguish between dass and daß. < 1157229915 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know why it's called sz and the html code is ß because it really is a ss ligature < 1157229927 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: well its dass lowercase < 1157229943 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: it used to be daß but it is dass now... (don't confuse it with das) < 1157229949 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait were you german? < 1157229957 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you weren't right? < 1157229958 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1157229968 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not German at all... well, maybe slightly. < 1157229974 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm that was someone other with i*!*@* < 1157229981 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION calls ihope_ a kraut < 1157229999 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION almost does a /whois i*!*@* < 1157230014 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1157230029 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... no, that wasn't it. < 1157230046 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmh/ < 1157230096 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(12:37:59) <>: So < 1157230096 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(12:38:00) <>: about < 1157230096 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(12:38:02) <>: life < 1157230096 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(12:38:08) CD Gregor R: ? < 1157230096 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(12:38:20) CD Gregor R: The game of? < 1157230096 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(12:38:38) <>: Dude, I'm the gamer. I'm supposed to make that joke. < 1157230098 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(12:39:03) CD Gregor R: The game of life is not a game. < 1157230100 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(12:39:39) CD Gregor R: It's a Turing Complete cellular automaton simulation. < 1157230104 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(12:39:52) <>: Stop using big words. < 1157230141 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sets mode +pretentiosgit GregorR < 1157230183 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1157230186 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* pretentious < 1157230199 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't slept in over 24 hours, I have an excuse. < 1157230207 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't matter if you spell it right so long as you're not pretentious, right? ;) < 1157230224 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm King of Spelling ;-; < 1157230247 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg ur speling sux < 1157230403 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION throws ifndef_GREGOR_H a cockatrice corpse. "Catch!" < 1157230831 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yum./ < 1157230888 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not tasty eats < 1157230895 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should, like, try and get his uncompression program work for EOF=-1. . . < 1157230907 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifndef_GREGOR_H touches the cockatrice corpse. ifndef_GREGOR_H turns to stone! < 1157230914 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should also do something more useful. :p < 1157230982 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pssh < 1157230995 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"useful" is relative :-3 < 1157231018 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe prove that EgoBFI is broken in some way? :p < 1157231063 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make an OGEL interpreter \o/ < 1157231096 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe make a BF to DF compiler. < 1157231147 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realizes that his IRC bot will actually run now < 1157231159 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it'll terminate immediately. < 1157231180 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to steal some IRC parser code. < 1157231195 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it connects to Freenode, creates a variable, forks off the IRC reader loop, and quits. < 1157231208 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor actually has some. < 1157231232 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in Scheme. < 1157231237 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parser code is always annoying. < 1157231299 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[.,],[>>>>+<<<<[->>+>+<<<]>>[-<<+>>]>-------------------------------------------<[-]>[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-]>[<<,[>>>[-]<<<->[-]+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.<]>>[-]]<<<[->>+>+<<<]>>[-<<+>>]>---------------------------------------------<[-]>[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-]>[<<,[>>>[-]<<<->[-]+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.<]>>[-]]<<<[->>+>+<<<]>>[-<<+>>]>------------------------------------------------------------<[-]>[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-] < 1157231305 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-o < 1157231306 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1157231307 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, I just wrote another easy part of my code. < 1157231318 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bot still compiles, and it still doesn't do anything. < 1157231441 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another easy part, and it no longer compiles. < 1157231455 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You seem quite good at writing IRC bots, ihope_. < 1157231482 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What makes you say that? < 1157231492 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dry sarcasm. < 1157231509 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :witty commentary ftw < 1157231576 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray Ibiblio for archiving everything semi-useful on the internet! < 1157231656 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parsing IRC = trivial < 1157231668 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trivial? Yes. Boring? Totally. < 1157231681 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do something for the Esolangs contest. < 1157231710 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm organizing it. < 1157231715 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, all my function parameters up to now have been implicit... < 1157231717 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do some coding for it. < 1157231720 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although in 9 minutes I'll be doing my homework. < 1157231722 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just for the hell of it, you know. < 1157231740 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I get time I want to try out my hand at a synthetic trig function. < 1157231761 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: CORDIC? < 1157231768 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CORDIC? < 1157231796 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The CORDIC algorithm for trigonometric functions... check it out, you'll like < 1157231808 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats the crap out of power series < 1157231831 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, never mind. < 1157231857 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, now the IRC bot compiles again. < 1157231867 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh :P. < 1157231881 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would've done the power series, but... remember, don't give the contestants answers. < 1157231885 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, it's more of an overly simple IRC client. < 1157231891 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops :-P < 1157231914 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, CORDIC is completely useless! Pay no attention; I am trying to confuse < 1157231927 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does wacky things with buffering < 1157231982 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This IRC bot is somewhat less sophisticated than GregorR's IRC client. < 1157232009 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1157232020 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits for it to arrive < 1157232032 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION breaks out the welcome mat. < 1157232042 0 :EagleBot!n=EagleBot@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157232046 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1157232049 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I change from GNU Scheme to GNU Guile? < 1157232055 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EagleBot?. . . < 1157232058 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1157232065 0 :EagleBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oogity. < 1157232070 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But GNU Guile is interpreted :(. < 1157232071 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pulls a feather off EagleBot < 1157232090 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf [.,],[>>>>+<<<<[->>+>+<<<]>>[-<<+>>]>-------------------------------------------<[-]>[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-]>[<<,[>>>[-]<<<->[-]+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.<]>>[-]]<<<[->>+>+<<<]>>[-<<+>>]>---------------------------------------------<[-]>[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-]>[<<,[>>>[-]<<<->[-]+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.<]>>[-]]<<<[->>+>+<<<]>>[-<<+>>]>------------------------------------------------------------<[-]>[<+>[-]]+<[> < 1157232096 0 :EagleBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps GreyKnight < 1157232101 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps < 1157232105 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 pikhq: ps < 1157232115 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Why did it die? < 1157232122 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor. . . < 1157232129 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, the bot doesn't respond to PINGs or anything. < 1157232133 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you're a bad programmer! < 1157232141 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's essentially just a TCP client with some automated stuff added. < 1157232149 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it works on EgoBFI. . . < 1157232160 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that what every IRC client is, ihope_ ? < 1157232162 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't respond to anything. < 1157232170 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, that's the targeted interpreter. . . < 1157232172 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps d < 1157232174 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 EgoBot: daemon cat reload < 1157232177 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 EgoBot: daemon EgoBot reload < 1157232179 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 pikhq: ps < 1157232181 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: they add more automated stuff than this bot does :-) < 1157232184 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!EgoBot sucks < 1157232186 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks < 1157232189 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!EgoBot sucks < 1157232192 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sucks < 1157232193 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!EgoBot really sucks < 1157232194 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION really sucks < 1157232199 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: Heh. < 1157232207 0 :EagleBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157232210 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf [.,],[>>>>+<<<<[->>+>+<<<]>>[-<<+>>]>-------------------------------------------<[-]>[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-]>[<<,[>>>[-]<<<->[-]+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.<]>>[-]]<<<[->>+>+<<<]>>[-<<+>>]>---------------------------------------------<[-]>[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-]>[<<,[>>>[-]<<<->[-]+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.<]>>[-]]<<<[->>+>+<<<]>>[-<<+>>]>------------------------------------------------------------<[-]>[<+>[-]]+<[> < 1157232211 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!EgoBot is a scoundrel. < 1157232215 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a scoundrel. < 1157232227 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!i 3 [.,],[>+[-+]>[-+]>+<+,[>[-<-<>[-]<[-+]>[-+]>-<+,[>[-<-<>[-]<[-+]>[-+]><<+,[>[-<-.<>[-]<[-+]>[-+]>><+,[>[-<-<>[-]>.>-[-<] < 1157232241 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. Wrong input. < 1157232244 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!eof 3 < 1157232263 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps < 1157232266 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 pikhq: ps < 1157232283 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION kills Gregor and his anti-Brainfuck stuff < 1157232349 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf http://pastebin.ca/raw/159206 < 1157232359 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!i 3 ++ < 1157232361 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0:43|0|0|*43|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0| < 1157232366 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, this thing has an odd bug that is echoing every message I type into it. < 1157232372 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . < 1157232393 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!eof 3 < 1157232394 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++0:86|0|0|*43|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0| < 1157232402 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's trivial to fix, of course. < 1157232749 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. This guy is even worse than mine. Naming a local binding creat-loop. < 1157232760 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because it *is* a local binding. < 1157232789 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/guy/guy\'s code/ < 1157232797 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hmms < 1157232953 0 :Kurt!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RerunVanPelt < 1157232972 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hmms further < 1157233398 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guile is pretty ugly about some things. < 1157233534 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks a lot like an unholy marriage between C and Scheme in some places.... < 1157233558 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hellish spawn" is another choice phrase < 1157233779 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah. Now MzScheme is tempting me. < 1157233789 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But homework is calling me with a much stronger voice. < 1157233792 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlambda \o/ < 1157233795 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the decision must defer! < 1157233816 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: 'Till then, think up any changes you thought needed to be made to Compressed English. < 1157233818 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I don't know this "Homework" language; is it on the wikiw? < 1157233821 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wiki < 1157233835 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a very very old programming language. < 1157233843 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'mma work on en/decoder, I'll see what throws up from that < 1157233872 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can get the vowel contractions to expand/contract out fine, it shouldn't be any work after that. < 1157233898 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of making something similar in LaTeX code itself. < 1157233968 0 :EagleBot!n=EagleBot@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157233968 0 :EagleBot!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Google < 1157233988 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't take that name. < 1157233991 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They'll sue ya'. < 1157234009 0 :Google!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157234012 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Giggle" < 1157234040 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: Using RawIRC yet? :P < 1157234048 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nope. < 1157234066 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and I forgot that EagleBot automatically joined #esoteric. < 1157234094 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"params str | all isWhite str = []" <- MY BOT IS RACEIST!!!!!!!!11 < 1157234103 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-o < 1157234129 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your bot should seriously just run through RawIRC. < 1157234143 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one of those homemade bots. < 1157234154 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No bot base or anything. < 1157234158 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifndef_GREGOR_H: You know, I still haven't gotten networking support for ORK done. . . < 1157234813 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h51.245.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157235385 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Small fix to RawIRC" < 1157235457 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=RawIRC@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157235784 0 :EagleBot!n=EagleBot@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157235784 0 :EagleBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157235792 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How'd that happen? < 1157235844 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea. < 1157236094 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, no bot should run through RawIRC, RawIRC does syntax highlighting :P < 1157236186 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could at least use its code as a base for bot construction :-3 < 1157236200 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you could fix that. < 1157236315 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"One more fix to RawIRC...I'm tired of my console being F***'d up when I quit :P" < 1157236401 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here comes EagleBot! < 1157236427 0 :EagleBot!n=EagleBot@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157236444 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully this guy'll PONG. < 1157236453 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=RawIRC@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157236470 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1157236480 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1157236501 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you joined, there were two spaces between the JOIN and the :#esoteric. < 1157236535 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figure it's a minor bug. < 1157236542 0 :EagleBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oogity < 1157236549 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the echo bug seems fixed. < 1157236610 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: know of any free multiplayer dogfighting games? earth, space, whatever < 1157236624 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from that bug which couldn't get any more minor, I think this guy's bug-free. < 1157236625 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would I know about that...? < 1157236635 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: flightgear < 1157236642 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :figured you were into flight games :) < 1157236659 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually have enough fun just flying WITHOUT shooting anything :P < 1157236709 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try flightgear again now that I have virtual memory :) < 1157236723 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was the joystick that was the kicker for me. < 1157236765 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay its loading < 1157236803 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flightgear is multiplayer 8-D < 1157236814 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but need some action < 1157236856 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to work with my joystick < 1157236876 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1157236878 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1157236888 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This bot isn't printing the pings and the pongs. < 1157236898 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, it doesn't like the plane being upside down.. annoying sound < 1157236906 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah < 1157236923 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to calibrate the joystick somehow < 1157236946 0 :EagleBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Foo" < 1157236953 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the sound of your impending doom :-3 < 1157236960 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Foo" is? < 1157236979 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : wow, it doesn't like the plane being upside down.. annoying sound < 1157237047 0 :EagleBot!n=EagleBot@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157237069 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now this guy'll display the ping-pong games it plays. < 1157237077 0 :bsmntbombdood_!i=root@gateway/tor/x-7ffc8f2cbd77f943 JOIN :#esoteric < 1157237100 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: not that kind of ping and pong/ < 1157237105 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1157237125 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157237139 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm deeply saddened that nobody's using RawIRC but me :P < 1157237139 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good job, bsmntbombdood. < 1157237160 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said not to use it for IRC bots. < 1157237164 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1157237176 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because it's a plain ol' client :P < 1157237187 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could add hooks to plug in external IRC bots, but, erm, no. < 1157237209 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just bundle in a lua interpreter :-3 < 1157237219 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that fits the theme :P < 1157237227 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Completely! < 1157237228 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1157237229 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just merge it with EagleBot < 1157237899 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one axis of my joystick doesn't seem to be working < 1157238875 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hmms < 1157238945 0 :EagleBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Recompiling" < 1157238994 0 :EagleBot!n=EagleBot@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157239255 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now the bot doesn't look like it PONGs right before PINGing :-) < 1157239288 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, right before getting PINGed. < 1157239310 0 :EagleBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1157239325 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I should add a config file thing. < 1157239512 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157239876 0 :EagleBot!n=EagleBot@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157240111 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can now change what EagleBot does on startup without recompiling. < 1157240129 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, more just reloading than compiling. < 1157241765 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157241786 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1157241796 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157241799 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it work? < 1157241832 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, hehe < 1157241873 0 :calamari_!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157241963 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1157241980 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only works without +n mode tho < 1157242011 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can have the bot stay out of the channel, change nicks, then msg the channel < 1157242038 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'd need another bot to report joins and quits < 1157242096 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can always give it a comprehensive list of all the interesting people, then have it WHOIS those. < 1157242134 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1157242157 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you don't need to look at joins and quits on the channel. < 1157242191 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I'd need two bots anyways < 1157242202 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one would need to be there to listen to the channel < 1157242241 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I still don't understand what you meant :) < 1157242274 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NAMES #esoteric . Try it. < 1157242290 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1157242295 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, what about it? < 1157242322 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, I misunderstood what your bot is doing :P < 1157242324 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait.. I think I understand fizzie now < 1157242337 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would probably get my bot banned or something hehe < 1157242370 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RawIRC = awesome. Anybody who uses a traditional IRC client is a pansy. < 1157242397 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION zomgs < 1157242497 0 :pikhqRaw!n=pikhq@67-21-19-37.clspco.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157242501 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foo! < 1157242521 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I respond to no CTCP :P < 1157242539 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION high-fives pikhqRaw < 1157242542 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't figure out the syntax? :P < 1157242555 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: It's easy enough, I just don't acare :P < 1157242560 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*care < 1157242573 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhqRaw: I have another release I haven't uploaded yet. One sec. < 1157242603 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The server doesn't allow me to give a CTCP reply. x_x < 1157242610 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is RawIRC a program you wrote? was assuming you meant telnet < 1157242635 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's an advanced Telnet client. :p < 1157242641 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: It's telnet + auto-ping-pong + some macros for things like PRIVMSG < 1157242644 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ colors < 1157242649 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codu.org/rawirc.c < 1157242663 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1157242672 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157242677 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1157242781 0 :pikhqRaw!n=pikhq@67-21-19-37.clspco.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157242795 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what's new in this version? < 1157242827 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhqRaw: Just some minor fixes. Diff against stuff in http://www.codu.org/rawirc.old/ stuff if you'd like. < 1157242846 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last version I used was revision 2. . . < 1157242925 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah < 1157242933 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a problem.................................................................................................................................................. < 1157243012 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :calamari90123456 < 1157243026 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So. . . New stuff==? < 1157243069 0 :calamari90123456!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW < 1157243079 0 :RerunVanPelt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1157243147 0 :WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :calamari < 1157243159 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: -_-' < 1157243236 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember it all off the top of my head :P < 1157243259 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can auto-join/auto-identify... < 1157243268 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The added coloring is the most obvious bit. < 1157243280 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Auto-join/auto-identify? How? < 1157243281 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there were some fixes to the display that I just found out broke something else weeeeeeeeeeeeeeh. < 1157243287 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Run it with no arguments for help. < 1157243348 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do you have to type the channel nam,e in front of everything you say ? < 1157243367 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: There's a macro for it. < 1157243369 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^O < 1157243369 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-p C-o < 1157243373 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ^P is PRIVMSG < 1157243379 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, like pikhqRaw said. < 1157243397 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how is this raw? < 1157243429 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because what you input is, in effect, the IRC protocol. < 1157243448 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I input too.. after all < 1157243457 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1157243467 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You input "PRIVMSG #esoteric:"? < 1157243468 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, otherwise we couldn't communicate over irc < 1157243472 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1157243488 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's what you input here. < 1157243491 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a program that does it for me, I just don't need to push control-o < 1157243498 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1157243503 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called xchat < 1157243514 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This has no IRC parsing. < 1157243521 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's human-parsed. < 1157243558 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<=K < 1157243568 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see a raw log if I want to < 1157243770 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know full well that that's not the same. < 1157243777 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codu.org/rawirc.png < 1157243841 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Testing one more change..." < 1157243999 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=RawIRC@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157243999 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157244030 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=RawIRC@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157244030 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157244037 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry 'bout that. < 1157244050 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kept starting it up against FreeNode instead of localhost >_< < 1157244116 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157244275 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=RawIRC@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157244282 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much better. < 1157244301 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION it's much easier to CTCP now. < 1157244316 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION didn't actually think about the fact that that would come out as a CTCP :P < 1157244341 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(All I did was make it replace unprintable characters with something visible) < 1157245130 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps next you could make it so I don't need to hit C-a a to do CTCP? < 1157245162 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVER! < 1157245165 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1157245554 0 :EagleBot!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1157245582 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EagleBot makes a fine IRC client. < 1157245604 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as good as RawIRC. < 1157245618 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost as good as RawIRC. < 1157245723 0 :ihope__!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157245772 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahem. < 1157245782 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was NOT because EagleBot makes a terrible IRC client. < 1157245785 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1157245787 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1157245788 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1157245816 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zomgrolf < 1157245823 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't PONG, did it. < 1157245826 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It diedidied. < 1157245831 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it PONGed. < 1157245832 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, I assume, that EagleBot is a terrible IRC client. < 1157245835 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Automagically. < 1157245856 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EagleBot is much better than both PuTTYtel and Windoze telnet by far. < 1157245925 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope_ < 1157245970 0 :ihope!n=EagleBot@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157245987 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that my username is EagleBot. < 1157246101 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION adds multiple-servers-but-not-at-once stuff to EagleBot < 1157246153 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that French for, "I'm now running EagleBot under an OS that supports multiple concurrent processes!" < 1157246174 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...No. < 1157246201 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's French for "I'm about to make it so that the server to connect to is not hard-coded". < 1157246217 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bahahaha < 1157246234 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION appluads < 1157246252 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a matter of parsing the config file... < 1157246262 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, we really need to have a bot in an Esolang. < 1157246315 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, lemme do a bit of arcane tweakery. < 1157246393 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact. . . < 1157246400 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in the mood for some Glassery. < 1157246498 0 :pikhqRaw!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :""Sorry, I need this terminal for something else."" < 1157246531 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I need this terminal for something else, too. < 1157246543 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to mention that I'll have to recompile the bot anyway. < 1157246556 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"EagleBot: almost as good as RawIRC!" < 1157247167 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1157247444 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, dear lord. He actually made an IRC bot with Glass. < 1157247880 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1157247976 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not. < 1157248423 0 :pikhqNC!n=pikhq@67-21-19-37.clspco.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157248432 0 :pikhqNC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wheee! < 1157248454 0 :pikhqNC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. You know, RawIRC is much better than netcat. < 1157248463 0 :pikhqNC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157248471 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes I do know that :P < 1157248483 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heheh. < 1157248660 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, in comparison with Brainfuck, Glass is just luxurious. < 1157248760 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nowhere near the level of esotericism it needs to be to be truly esoteric. < 1157248773 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To the degree that it was part of my inspiration to make Plof, a non-esoteric language. < 1157248860 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to look at Plof a bit. . . < 1157248875 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's far from fully implemented :P < 1157248880 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codu.org/plof/ < 1157249151 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157251197 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION updates the topic of ##quantum < 1157252340 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was gonna ask you what happened to Plof when you decided to make RawIRC. < 1157252389 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing, I just had a temporary distraction. < 1157252435 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds to me like you ran out of Plof-steam. < 1157252488 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've never actually paid attention to my programming projects, have you :-P < 1157252506 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sinusoidal. < 1157252527 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157252550 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually need to upload my latest plof2js < 1157252591 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, I wonder whether I should join the league of Guile Schemers or try out MzScheme.... < 1157252601 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That decision will affect many things. < 1157252692 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, my latest code is totally borken ^^ < 1157252821 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After looking at the not-anymore-existing MzScheme Ncurses library, my choice is made -- Guile. < 1157253234 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, there's a bug in plof2js' parser... < 1157253377 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157254139 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I go bed now." < 1157254681 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157254809 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h51.245.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157254965 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1157255115 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h51.245.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157256287 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: how is your c->bf compiler? < 1157256617 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I think he last touched months ago. < 1157256636 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Have you taken a look at Compressed English? < 1157256641 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Nope. < 1157256648 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You should. < 1157256666 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Have you taken a look at my entry? < 1157256675 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No :P. < 1157256688 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: You should. < 1157256713 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1157256822 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not looking at Compressed English until you look at my entry. < 1157257557 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye all < 1157257566 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1157260764 0 :vf0i1vq2SR!n=vf0i1vq2@h-68-166-178-180.dnvtco56.dynamic.covad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157260986 0 :bsmntbombdood_!n=gavin@unaffiliated/bsmntbombdood JOIN :#esoteric < 1157261003 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1157261026 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1157261810 0 :vf0i1vq2SR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1157261916 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157264773 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@212.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157267615 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-21-183.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157270399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1157270400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1157270957 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1157272346 0 :dbremner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Quitting!" < 1157273146 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-20-94.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157276072 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1157279227 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157282336 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157285897 0 :jix!n=jix@L6313.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157291132 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-20-47.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157291515 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-231.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1157292290 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Marty! Marty! Marty! You gotta come back with me. Where? I need fuel. Where? Back to the future! Doc, you better back up; we don't have enough road to get up to 88. Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads. What is the power of love? Yeah... < 1157292381 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"If you're reading this, it's probably xchat's fault." < 1157292616 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-e33fe155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1157292706 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great Scott! < 1157294051 0 :Noxn!n=10313F13@50.Red-83-59-250.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157294298 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1157295289 0 :Noxn!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157295654 0 :CXI!n=Sanity@dialup-145.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1157298019 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"back soon" < 1157298249 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-137-191.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157299629 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157305500 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-1d3fe155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1157306224 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to encode two bits in one character: ;,:.:,.,;:;:.,.,:;..:;,;.:;:,,.; < 1157306231 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Useful, eh? < 1157306257 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely it'd be simpler to just encode 8 bits in one character? < 1157306822 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, 6.56985561 bits in one character. < 1157306844 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, make that 6.56985560 bits. < 1157306863 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157307999 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-1d3fe155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1157308644 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets bored. . . < 1157308654 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll go and write compress.bfc. . . < 1157309367 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157309891 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay. Now, with that, I've got a clear algorithm for creating compress.b. . . < 1157312281 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is thinking of a very, very simple macro package for Brainfuck. . . < 1157312319 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something sufficiently low-level that, in essence, the macros would be effective comments for the Brainfuck code. . . < 1157312335 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just random thoughts. < 1157313738 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfmacro copy {from to temp} {temp[-]to[-]from[to+temp+from-]temp[from+temp-]} < 1157313747 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An example of my random thoughts. < 1157313769 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1157313780 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a bad form of notation < 1157313914 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the consensus is pretty unanimous that remapping relative addressing to variables is the best trivial polymorphism of BF that makes it a more powerful language. < 1157313944 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, each variable is assigned, by the programmer, an address. . . < 1157313951 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ variable address < 1157313981 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes things much simpler. < 1157314025 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :macro copy {from to temp} {temp=0;to=0;while from {add to 1;add temp 1;subtract from 1};while temp {add y 1;subtract temp 1}} -- the same macro, using the macro language's builtins instead of psuedo-Brainfuck. . . < 1157314107 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I get bored enough, I might actually implement this. . . < 1157314128 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And do some formal specs. < 1157314168 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone else care to chime in? < 1157314302 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congratulations, you've made the C preprocessor ;) < 1157314312 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You'd be shocked what the C preprocessor can do for BF) < 1157314337 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I'm actually not surprised that it's a lot like the C preprocessor. . . < 1157314382 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering that my thoughts involved thinking "Hmm. How could we do this [the C preprocessor] for Brainfuck?", it's almost inevitable. :p < 1157314466 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a real jackass X-D < 1157314476 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme see if I can find my old BF with Macros stuff. < 1157314539 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1157314709 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Here, have some assorted garbage, some of which may be helpful: http://www.codu.org/mbf/ < 1157314721 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider that all to be under the MIT license where ambiguous. < 1157314856 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should mention, MBF isn't really very adjustable to addresses, all the macros assume you set things up at the proper address. < 1157314871 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be possible to adjust it with location macros, though. < 1157314887 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define GOTO_3 >>> < 1157314892 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define COMEFROM_3 <<< < 1157314894 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etc. < 1157314938 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably just strip it for ideas, instead of code, then. < 1157315244 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157315579 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifndef_GREGOR_H: Okay, my system would be *like* that, except that it'd be a *little* more flexible, since one can call each macro with variables to operate on, instead of needing to have the operands to each in the right location. < 1157317338 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know how to configure a "web site is down for maintenance" page in apache? < 1157317352 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. all http requests return the same page < 1157317940 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to #apache  < 1157318003 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brilliant ;) < 1157318179 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it worked :) < 1157318185 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That MBF thing is a lot of klduges. < 1157318188 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jebus. < 1157318439 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's pretty bad 8-D < 1157318803 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mother brainf***er? < 1157319223 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157319367 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay. I've got a simple spec for my ideas done. < 1157319379 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spec spec spec spec spec spec spec... wait, what? < 1157319392 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, I should *probably* write an implementation. . . < 1157319425 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just show off my work. :p < 1157319463 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/160055 < 1157319901 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay. Who here wishes to comments? < 1157319906 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. < 1157320552 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMMENT, OR THE BABY GETS IT!!! < 1157320562 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION holds up a baby and a loaded pistol < 1157320746 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't Put The Baby down. < 1157320811 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1157320926 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is still holding the baby < 1157320928 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION kills the bad guy (pikhq), saves the baby, gets the girl and rides into the sunset < 1157321009 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, though. Could someone at *least* say I'm an idiot or something? < 1157321026 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/160055 Read. Speak. < 1157321035 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I shall haunt the baby till it dies. < 1157321098 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1157321128 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO NOT PUT THE BABY WITH pikhq!!! < 1157321184 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That stunk of tab complete. < 1157321195 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1157321376 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads < 1157321389 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally. < 1157321404 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may read, but do not comment. < 1157321434 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY?!? < 1157321451 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks... well. < 1157321460 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like C, possible. < 1157321467 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/le/ly/ < 1157321481 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, but I like this channel specifically because people are willing to tell me if/when I'm an idiot. . . < 1157321508 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are not currently an idiot. < 1157321509 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You never read Compressed English :(. < 1157321532 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you never commented about it anyhow. < 1157321535 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: You never read my entry. < 1157321542 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant that for ihope_. < 1157321548 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157321600 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, I need to figure out how to compile it. . . < 1157321645 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, I must finish my vocabulary for t3h day. < 1157321768 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1157321808 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that it would be possible to implement this inside of a slave interpreter in Tcl. . . < 1157321820 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omgslavery < 1157321863 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm sooo... < 1157321872 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mud client is... turing complete.. < 1157321885 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bravo. < 1157322027 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Internets are Turing-complete. < 1157323480 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1157324057 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1157324057 0 :clog_!n=nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1157324076 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs ideas for implementing his macro language < 1157324118 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, of course, someone sufficiently bored to do it for me. :p < 1157324181 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might, if it's not too difficult to parse it. < 1157324236 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's essentially Polish notation. < 1157324279 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll look into it later tonight. < 1157324285 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay. < 1157324306 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I have to run my vocabulary down, then finish up some more homework, then I'll be free to do whatever I feel. < 1157324317 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regular expressions in GNU Scheme are annoying. < 1157324358 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regexps == love. < 1157324564 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1157324565 0 :clog_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :clog < 1157325794 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits for Razor-X to finish. . . < 1157326273 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157326822 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: You've got one convenient thing for this: I've already described, in much detail, the compilation of one example. . . ;) < 1157327301 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Don't hold your breath, later for me means another 5 hours at most. < 1157327312 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An example -- that's good. < 1157327525 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long could it take you to do vocab and homework, anyways? < 1157327574 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, tomorrow is labor day. . . Do you *need* to get your homework done? < 1157327996 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Labor Day? < 1157328003 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tomorrow? < 1157328012 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Common noun?) < 1157328042 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Tomorrow. < 1157328060 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zomg I have tomorrow off of work whoot < 1157328064 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I feel oddly motivated this year, and 4 AP classes puts a lot of work. < 1157328122 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, all I really have is US history homework left (2 large worksheets), but I also want to get started on some of next week's math homework and I might start on some of next week's Physics homework, depending on my mood. < 1157328160 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And vocab is typically a 3 hour affair per day, heh. < 1157328236 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: VERSION RESPONSE: I'm still using RawIRC < 1157328263 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't you do a real response thing, then? < 1157328318 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember what the version response format is ^^ < 1157328331 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knows that it's some kind of CTCP, but that's it. < 1157328353 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOTICE ihope :^AVERSION RawIRC^A < 1157328397 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see, PRIVMSG for request, NOTICE for response. < 1157328399 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird. < 1157328588 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifndef_GREGOR_H: The IRC spec states that a PRIVMSG isn't to be used for automated replies; that's the job of NOTICE. < 1157328595 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CTCP follows that spec. < 1157328750 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION makes out with his macro language < 1157328763 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: That's hot. < 1157328773 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm. Technophilia. < 1157328797 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, since I made it, it's also incest. :p < 1157328807 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technophilic incest. Whee. < 1157328890 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it seems I was wrong or something. < 1157328917 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ifndef_GREGOR_H] [\0x01]VERSION RawIRC[\0x01] < 1157328933 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Did you send that to the channel? < 1157328944 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sent one to the channel just to see what clients would do ;) < 1157328954 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course... < 1157328954 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:06 CTCP VERSION reply from ifndef_GREGOR_H in channel #esoteric: RawIRC < 1157328958 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I got. < 1157328989 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRIVMSG looks better. < 1157329018 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this ChatZilla theme thing, it's red and bold rather than plain black. < 1157329039 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's [] around the nick instead of <>. < 1157329048 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than that, it's all the same. < 1157329219 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks quite similar to a PRIVMSG in ERC. < 1157329227 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ihope_- Eh, why doesn't everybody use NOTICE instead of PRIVMSG? PRIVMSG looks better. < 1157329242 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION writes a standard macros better < 1157329249 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLARGH. < 1157329256 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brain isn't working. < 1157329257 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll read your spec now, and then go to homework pikhq. < 1157329269 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is writing a standard set of macros for the language < 1157329271 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: :D < 1157329395 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... Incomprehensible spec pikhq :D. < 1157329402 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you comparing the spec to? < 1157329415 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For these sorts of things I prefer a straight-up BNF or ABNF. < 1157329438 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BNF? ABNF? < 1157329452 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Backus-Naur Format. Augmented Backus-Naur Format. < 1157329476 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know it, sorry. < 1157329482 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..... o_O?! < 1157329489 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've *never* seen a BNF?! < 1157329505 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're quite readable for human beings and somewhat easy to parse, which is why I love them, but wow. < 1157329565 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zomg < 1157329592 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most RFCs use either BNF or ABNF. < 1157329662 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume you'd like me to actually write one for you? < 1157329682 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1157329739 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Brainfuck_algorithms I'm going to rewrite some of these into this macro language first. < 1157329772 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think you're reinventing the wheel too, IIRC. < 1157329781 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take a look at BFA. Although that's a bit different. < 1157329805 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link? < 1157329863 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah. I can't believe I haven't bookmarked this... time to do some creative google searching. < 1157329903 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's been done. < 1157329903 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to call BNF "Boring Nasty Format" from now on. < 1157329908 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And quite thoroughly, IIRC. < 1157329927 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/IIRC/it seems/ < 1157329933 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.sange.fi/brainfuck/utils/bfcomp-0.09/ < 1157329941 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that? < 1157329959 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I took some inspiration from that, actually. < 1157329968 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the logistic difference here? < 1157329970 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems significantly more advanced than pikhq is aiming for. < 1157329980 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it just a reimplementation of BFA? < 1157329983 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is much lower level. < 1157330005 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in between the BFC and BFA of the bfcomp language. . . < 1157330029 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157330057 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My main issues with that was that it was a bit inefficient, because it was too high-level to allow the programmer to have much control over the resulting Brainfuck code. < 1157330090 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think "C preprocessor on steroids" < 1157330100 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll think about writing a Scheme (this format)->BF compiler. < 1157330102 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(IMHO this could all be done with the C preprocessor, but anyway :P ) < 1157330102 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, yeah. That's what it is. < 1157330125 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifndef_GREGOR_H: Yeah, but the C preprocessor implementation, which you've done, is fugly. < 1157330133 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-D < 1157330149 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is nice and clean, IMO. < 1157330163 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has to see some functioning code before he can judge. < 1157330171 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157330177 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1157330181 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was ^C you f***ing idiot >_< < 1157330182 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bug? < 1157330186 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;). < 1157330190 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PEBKAC < 1157330198 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like RawIRC is quite the intuitive client. < 1157330211 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only ctrl chars used are P, O, and A. < 1157330213 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it keep a persistent line below the telnet traffic? < 1157330215 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I decided to type C. < 1157330225 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=RawIRC@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157330225 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Among other things, that compiler has the idea of scope. Mine has just a global scope. . . < 1157330229 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Yeah. < 1157330229 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifndef_GREGOR_H: Bravo. < 1157330244 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1157330245 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you use Ncurses or simple terminal control characters? < 1157330258 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simple terminal control. Nowhere near advanced enough to need *curses ;) < 1157330283 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also UNIX-only. Maybe even GNU/Linux-only. :P < 1157330287 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know more about *curses than about terminal control characters :P. < 1157330397 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I get bored enough, I'll implement the macro language in itself. :p < 1157330460 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_-'' < 1157330476 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm debating on whether to port ERC to Scheme or not. < 1157330493 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pff, ERC is for pansies. Port RawIRC to Scheme. < 1157330498 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's first. < 1157330507 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'll add ``features'' to it. < 1157330519 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not features if they destroy the spirit of it :P < 1157330527 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why they're ``features''. < 1157330535 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not features. < 1157330537 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah < 1157330558 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll add scripting support to RawIRC. < 1157330562 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, I won't be adding much. A Scheme shell, and maybe a macro or two, and an RC file for you to define your own macros. < 1157330576 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's about all. < 1157330576 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, you could pass in a number of scripts, and it would fork them off and feed the raw IRC traffic into them as well :P < 1157330596 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If God wanted Man to use `` and '', He wouldn't have invented " :-P < 1157330610 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF ENGLISH IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR JESUS, IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR TEXAS < 1157330616 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God can go and worship Donald Knuth. < 1157330634 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF TEX IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR JESUS etc < 1157330634 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifndef_GREGOR_H: so English isn't good enough for Texas? < 1157330638 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, you could use Scheme's power to turn RawIRC into a *real* IRC client, but heaven forbid what drives you to use RawIRC in the first place then. < 1157330646 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: Apparently :P < 1157330844 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learn Shavian. Bubs. < 1157331414 0 :GreyKnight!n=wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157331419 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yarr. < 1157331477 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahoy. < 1157331496 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chatzilla? Pff! Real men use RawIRC. < 1157331500 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1157331556 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real men write bits directly onto the ethernet cable with their penis. < 1157331767 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1157331771 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop trying it! < 1157331775 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<_< < 1157331799 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can... do that? < 1157331829 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifndef_GREGOR_H has gone very quiet < 1157331839 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he tried it and... electrocuted himself < 1157331882 0 :ihope__!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157332102 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1157332105 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: consider yourself poked < 1157332385 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay. . . < 1157332402 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, this thing, as it stands right now, makes very efficient use of the Brainfuck memory. . . < 1157332453 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think I can call this current EagleBot... what? Version 2? < 1157332463 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157332488 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Version 1 sucked, version 2 isn't as nice either, and I'll write version 3 tomorrow. < 1157332562 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, if I could just implement it, I'd have something here. < 1157332616 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Memo the spec to me and I'll take a look at it... < 1157332638 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tomorrow, I mean. < 1157332657 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When do we get EagleBot XQ? < 1157332661 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes two people that have said basically the same thing. x_x < 1157332678 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1157332681 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who was the other one? < 1157332686 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X < 1157332693 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you memo it to her? < 1157332705 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, in IRC. < 1157332730 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, memo it to me, or else I'll memo it to myself! < 1157332743 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/160055 < 1157332744 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION holds his finger over the "enter" key as if it were a suicide threat < 1157332771 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION memos the URL to himself < 1157332793 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :onoz < 1157332809 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shut up, or I'll memo it to you too! < 1157332844 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs around with his arms in the air < 1157332873 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smiles < 1157332879 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION memos it to EgoBot < 1157332960 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screw it. I'll write bits and pieces of it myself. < 1157333017 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1157333030 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noo! Don't leave! < 1157333032 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait... < 1157333156 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone yanked him away by the iron chain < 1157333234 0 :ihope_!n=EagleBot@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157333248 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EagleBot v2 makes a half-decent alternative. < 1157333253 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION talks to ihope_ < 1157333270 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits for an answer < 1157333293 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives up and goes to bed < 1157335186 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has almost finished one stage of this compiler < 1157336582 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoo. < 1157336588 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got a stage of the compiler done. < 1157336749 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiler of what? < 1157336761 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My macro language. . . < 1157336774 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linky linky < 1157336778 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although this is the stage *after* macros have been expanded, so. . . < 1157336785 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/160055 < 1157336929 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I approve. < 1157337084 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just need to expand the macros, and I'll be *done*. < 1157337647 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahoy there me hearties and pokers. < 1157337667 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't wanna do it!!! < 1157337671 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cries like a baby < 1157337736 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: How's been your experience with Compressed English? < 1157337809 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any more digraphs you think we should add? Changes? I need to formalize some table syntax and then I have to look into the math syntax. < 1157337828 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was also thinking of introducing trigraphs, but I need a more convenient system of characters that's supported by TeX. < 1157337845 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had one useful idea: < 1157337859 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmm? < 1157337866 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The word INTERCAL currently compresses pretty poorly < 1157337873 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance < 1157337891 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be condensed to 5 characters. < 1157337904 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the +s to denote the capitals. < 1157337918 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that need to be explicit? < 1157337924 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest a +[...] syntax for multiple capitalizations < 1157337948 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see the use in that. I agree. < 1157337958 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not for this example (at least when translated by a human), but there are probably situations where there'd be confusion < 1157337981 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of adding the polygraph ``ough''. < 1157337988 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :similarly for ±[...] < 1157337998 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Yeah. < 1157338015 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have most of a UTF-8 encoder written < 1157338020 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice :). < 1157338029 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to code a LaTeX converter. < 1157338059 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was also thinking of adding in ``ow'' as a digraph. Any other suggestions? Any characters you'd consider usable? (Preferrably from the LaTeX symbols list.) < 1157338066 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used my suggestion of dot-diaresis => colon, dot-macron => question mark < 1157338092 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll add that into my standard then. < 1157338098 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I don't think you ever actually endorsed that :-P < 1157338108 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Fine ;). < 1157338196 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurred to me that we could reduce a/an to a single form, but there are actually some odd situations with it ("a hotel" vs "an hotel", depending). Thoughts? < 1157338275 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that it should be used. < 1157338298 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well.... < 1157338315 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can add a character to be `a', and accented it becomes ``an''. < 1157338461 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This may get confusing but, you know how a dot up top repeats the vowel after the consonant if a vowel is on top of a consonant? < 1157338472 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest adding an underdot to repeat the consonant instead of the vowel. < 1157338485 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yurk < 1157338491 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too messy? < 1157338530 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was assuming vowels never received repeats and that "consonant-vowelsign-overdot" meant "consonant consonant vowel" < 1157338554 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it meant consonant vowel vowel. < 1157338567 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you had a double vowel you'd use the floating-vowel symbol < 1157338569 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pants < 1157338575 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pants? < 1157338586 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an expression of irritation < 1157338586 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how would you add the double vowel symbol to an accent? < 1157338623 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, for instance, "feel" becomes "f-acute, hypen-acute, l" < 1157338646 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas "butter" becomes "b-grave,t-acute-overdot,r" < 1157338845 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't type b-grave :-P < 1157338887 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not use an underdot or an ``arc'' to distinguish between repeating vowels and consonants? < 1157338942 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the top is getting pretty cluttered, so underdot sounds best < 1157338991 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so underdot repeats the consonant, then? < 1157338994 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1157339036 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*updates* < 1157339060 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll add in vowel repeats later, that'll require a larger change < 1157339088 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. Fine. < 1157339287 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, how to deal with the situation where the letters of a digraph have different cases? For instance, my encoder currently converts both "Church" and "CHurch" to "μrμ", but this destroys information about the original < 1157339322 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, "μ̀rμ" < 1157339387 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm.... that's a thought I didn't think of. < 1157339431 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which only gets worse with trigraphs and beyond :-o < 1157339443 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I was thinking of a general form of capitalization. < 1157339447 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about multiple capitalization operators? < 1157339473 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"++μ" = "CH", "+±μ" => "Ch", etc < 1157339518 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, some of those can be dropped if you know what the "expected" case is, but you get the idea < 1157339519 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking for an n-graph, you can specify general capitalization like \+\+\\+ ... \ containing n amount of \, where a + denotes a capitalized letter. < 1157339554 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather, n+2 amount of \'s. < 1157339568 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you have the preceding and terminating \ here to denote the general capitalization form. < 1157339583 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very compressed, though :-( < 1157339586 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you want to drop the preceding one for conciseness..... < 1157339596 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, how often do you need general capitalization forms? :P. < 1157339611 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully not often < 1157339625 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless we want to define a repetition operator which works on language constructs and letters. < 1157339640 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than the in-place cedilla. < 1157339677 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that'd interrupt the flow in handwritten texts < 1157339688 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you'd chucked the cedilla? < 1157339754 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What performs the in-place repetitions then? < 1157339778 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :overdot and underdot (vowel and consonant, respectively) < 1157339797 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh... yes true. < 1157339887 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agh. < 1157339895 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One bit of my compiler that *is* broken. < 1157339910 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The part about variable expansion, specifically. < 1157339929 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmm... I think I need to at the very least add in a digraph for -sh. < 1157339970 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to take one more look at the Greek alphabet..... < 1157339982 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I already recommended that :-P < 1157340019 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :varsigma? < 1157340019 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, heh. < 1157340049 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I guess it's potentially confusable with 's' in handwritten text < 1157340051 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't that look too much like `s' though? < 1157340052 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1157340087 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lowercase xi? ('ξ') < 1157340117 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it confusable with Epsilon? < 1157340143 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the way I write it :-P < 1157340150 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1157340164 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the top hook and the tail should be pretty prominent < 1157340175 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about lowercase xi? < 1157340200 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh..... < 1157340200 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that... what we were just talking about? < 1157340209 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant lowercase. < 1157340215 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UH. < 1157340218 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant uppercase. < 1157340222 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AGH. < 1157340224 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ξ < 1157340229 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeh. < 1157340229 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also: HURR) < 1157340262 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? < 1157340266 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really confusable with anything < 1157340275 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should work < 1157340298 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing it will be an unusual experience for non-Greek non-mathematicians, though :-) < 1157340318 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm neither :P. < 1157340329 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look, if a high schooler can come up with it, others can write in it. < 1157340335 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1157340344 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try writing it; it's a strange experience for an English-speaker < 1157340349 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have. < 1157340356 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trust me, it's easier to write it than TeX it. < 1157340359 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1157340364 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't really have the same "flow" as Latin letters < 1157340364 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A LOT easier. < 1157340369 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1157340383 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it lends itself to handwriting pretty well. < 1157340404 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Least my handwriting. < 1157340463 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1157340471 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You haven't tried handwriting it yet? < 1157340551 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much < 1157340569 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have a life, you know :-P < 1157340573 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1157340585 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to work pretty well, even though it was initially a smattering of ``Oooh! TeX has this symbol!''. < 1157340687 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll have this encoder have an option to use the precomposed character if one is available; composition characters are great for general-purpose stuff, but they tend to be put together badly on proportional fonts, at least in most software < 1157340710 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even monospaced fonts suffer if you try to put too many in one cell < 1157341212 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember, umulat-fullstop now represents `,' . < 1157341292 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :last I heard you were using ring for that and umlaut (==diaresis) for colon :-\ < 1157341316 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmmmm...... < 1157341326 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, an umulaut is a diaresis? < 1157341334 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may be getting the two confused then. < 1157341347 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one is the double-dot up top? < 1157341364 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically they're different, but the difference is only in the distance between the dots, so they're generally identical < 1157341376 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157341387 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they both consist of a horizontal pair of dots above the letter < 1157341388 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then what was the downward-curve thing? < 1157341417 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaresis < 1157341436 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a downward-pointing arc? < 1157341442 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1157341451 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a breve < 1157341454 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah! < 1157341455 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we are! < 1157341540 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A comma stays ring-fullstop then. < 1157341546 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least when it's on top; I don't know if an "underbreve" is used anywhere or if it has a special name) < 1157341697 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you have down as -nt? Hyphen-ring? < 1157341888 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? I have hyphen as the "floating vowel" character < 1157341899 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Errr... < 1157341901 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hyphen-n my bad. < 1157341902 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have lowercase eta for NT < 1157341910 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Blah. Yeah. < 1157341924 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a stupid mistake on me not erasing old things. < 1157341946 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were thinking about n-tilde for NT at one point, I think < 1157341954 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. But eta is fine. < 1157341955 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need source control :-3 < 1157341960 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing it now :P. < 1157346544 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-67-117-30-249.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157347062 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157347081 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1157350786 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1157351602 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :rms < 1157351613 0 :rms!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq < 1157351651 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1157351660 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It made sense in #gnu. < 1157351680 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1157353122 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll bet. < 1157353128 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why he isn't in #gnu < 1157353295 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's Not Unix? < 1157353368 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION starts wishing he had a Thinkpad laptop. . . < 1157353401 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those things are built to look like you could beat the fuck out of someone for their stupidity with one, and then demonstrate to them the smart way to do it. . . :p < 1157353505 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My work-laptop is a Thinkpad. < 1157353520 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "T43" on it. < 1157353543 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION <3 T22 < 1157353546 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only fancy thing about it is the fingerprint reader thing. < 1157353559 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trackpoints ftw < 1157353565 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ratpoison FTW. < 1157353597 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not for the rats it isn't :-P < 1157353617 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Ratpoison]] Wheee. < 1157355031 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"BRB" < 1157355170 0 :GreyKnight!n=wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157356799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1157356800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1157361291 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION requests suggestions for a good language to teach small children < 1157362788 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1157362788 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1157363180 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-67-117-30-249.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157363306 0 :GreyKnight!n=wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157363556 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming language? < 1157363648 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whee netsplit < 1157363655 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah < 1157363709 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm.... Scheme! ..... < 1157363741 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I learned the fundamentals of programming through ``RPG Maker 95'', heh. < 1157363789 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ORLy < 1157363800 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(@lilo) < 1157363803 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then some QBASIC, and I 'unno, it clicked somewhere. < 1157363817 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I will start with a lisp < 1157363825 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great :D. < 1157363841 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I just wonder if Lisps are a bit too.... mathematical I guess.... < 1157363847 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly one with some graphics capabilities < 1157363866 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of the abstractions are intuitive if you've taken Algebra I, but until then, yeah. < 1157363908 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thomas will have me teaching him < 1157363914 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he will get it easily :-3 < 1157363917 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1157363933 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematics and small children are my two specialties < 1157363946 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've wondered what happens if someone starts with a Lisp as a first language. < 1157363971 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For imperative programmers, the switch from imperative to functional is mind-wracking, I wonder how it is from functional to imperative. < 1157364101 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's Logo, for all your turtle graphics needs. < 1157364132 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall that the language was somehow funny, too. < 1157364179 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. I learned Logo at (my old rich private) school as the first language, but I was always interested in computers beyond that. < 1157364216 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't really remember specifics of the language, though. Last time I used it probably at the age of 10 or so. < 1157364224 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logo is really Lisp in disguise :-) < 1157364234 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One day I and a group of friends walked in the lab and 3 sixth-graders had left their programs up. We sneakily copied them to our floppies, stole our floppies when the teacher wasn't looking and took it home to analyze. < 1157364247 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logo_programming_language < 1157364284 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got the most interesting one, a concentric ring of circles in an odd shape. I learned all sorts of stuff reading the source. < 1157364348 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Logo programming language is a functional programming language. It is an easier to read adaptation and dialect of the Lisp programming language; some have called it Lisp without the parentheses. < 1157364355 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(<-WP) < 1157364375 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1157364391 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember much though. But yeah, there were no imperative qualities IIRC. < 1157364441 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically they swapped the parentheses for brackets :-3 < 1157364511 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The basic style of doing it ("fw X, lt Z, fw Y, ...") is rather imperative-y. < 1157364564 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in a progn-y sort of way :-3 < 1157364575 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats monads :-) < 1157364582 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shudders. < 1157364598 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads make the babies cry :(. < 1157364601 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember having any understanding of higher-order functions or anything, back then in the Logo days. < 1157364680 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you were probably more concerned with drawing pretty pictures :-P < 1157364854 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly GW-BASIC (which, I think, was my first language) wasn't any better either in that regard, but I didn't really "get" Prolog. (Which was the other language for which there was an interpreter installed.) < 1157364947 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I really get Prolog now either. My Scheme interpreter in Prolog is mostly abusing Prolog to work like any old imperative programming language. < 1157365262 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't looked into Prolog at all. < 1157365281 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an existing Lisp that'd serve this purpose well, or should I throw something together? < 1157365291 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Higher-order functions are deceptively easy once understood, mysteries until then :P. < 1157365309 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not pick up some Scheme and X graphics stuff GreyKnight? < 1157365334 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIT/GNU Scheme comes with an (very basic) implementation of X. < 1157365356 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLT Scheme has a GUI thing. < 1157365368 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I personally didn't much like it, but it does. < 1157365372 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is Guile? It seems messy. < 1157365392 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it has the most activity of all the Schemes :(. < 1157365462 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also xdraw for graphics; it's what our Scheme course used for project-work, which means that every student's project had a completely different-looking (usually: ugley) GUI. http://users.tkk.fi/~rsaikkon/software/xdraw.html < 1157365472 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I picked up MIT/GNU Scheme only beacuse.... it *is* the official GNU distribution. < 1157365476 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He'll probably be wanting to bring stuff onto his mum's windows computer... that outta be fun :-( < 1157365525 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLT should be relatively windows-friendly. And it has that IDE, of sorts. < 1157365536 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could probably code something for the Windows API too, I know MIT/GNU Scheme cooperates fine on it. < 1157365561 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X; That's not something to teach to small children. They'll be scarred for life! < 1157365581 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant that GreyKnight does the WinAPI coding :P. < 1157365592 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! Well, that's better. < 1157365617 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, once a project decides that it needs to involve WinAPI, I usually come up with a million other things I'd rather be doing < 1157365627 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like sticking rusty forks in my eyes < 1157365638 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish there was some review site of all the Schemes. < 1157365651 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trust me, X code is no fun either. < 1157365666 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION grumbles < 1157365697 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should do a web-based solution and just draw with gd :-3 < 1157365729 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1157365732 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think there are GD-like libraries for on-screen drawing. < 1157365736 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That xdraw is one. < 1157365758 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could actually pull this off, I think... < 1157365780 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you use Guile, someone's probably written some library to some closs-platform GUI toolkit. < 1157365792 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I mean, Guile seemed messy in some places to me. < 1157365802 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GUI toolkits are no fun; drawing lines 'n squares 'n colorful blobs is. < 1157365827 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll make gkd-lisp into something less... ugly... and fold it into a nice web thingy < 1157365828 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the implementation list at http://community.schemewiki.org/?scheme-faq-standards#implementations but it has no details, so going through it is quite a chore. < 1157365912 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I can tell, PLT Scheme, MIT/GNU Scheme, and Guile are the top 3, with Scheme48 as some forgotten-child runners-up candidate. < 1157365979 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scheme48 is what some people on #scheme use. < 1157366142 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your experience with the Schemes? < 1157366261 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've been quite partial to mzscheme-the-interpreter, but much dislike the other PLT Scheme things (the web server and the DrScheme environment); Scheme48 looked interesting, but haven't used it much; and Chicken seems to be a nice Scheme compiler with quite a lot of extensionds (called "eggs" there) for things like OpenGL. < 1157366379 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does MzScheme have many libraries? < 1157366600 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite a lot, yes. And it's relatively painless to write them; wrote one for the PostgreSQL C library. < 1157366829 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NCurses already there? < 1157366908 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr, Ncurses! < 1157366957 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ncurses! < 1157366958 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine! < 1157367261 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chicken is nice except for a few little gripes, for one it doesen't support i/o-ports. < 1157367480 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there was a curses lib. < 1157367566 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't see it right now, though. < 1157367820 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1157368255 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a ncurses.egg for Chicken. :p < 1157368270 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, heh. < 1157368294 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Chicken the most out of them all, except for its very sparse reference manual. Still, MIT/GNU Scheme offers some great features. < 1157375343 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157379053 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@179.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157379489 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157379626 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@124.57.51.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1157380719 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157382363 0 :Arrogant!i=Scotty@178.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157384427 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157385751 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@215.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157387355 0 :jix__!n=jix@L6267.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157387363 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1157388290 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157388652 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157388680 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157388738 0 :marinus!n=marinus@cable-104-9.zeelandnet.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1157388754 0 :marinus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :SendQ exceeded < 1157388755 0 :marinus!n=marinus@cable-104-9.zeelandnet.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1157388995 0 :marinus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the esolang contest, should an unicode program also output the "begin " line, and if so what name should I use? < 1157390117 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that the "begin ... " segment ought to be required (it's not a lot of extra work in most cases) , and the filename can be arbitrary. < 1157390127 0 :marinus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, thanks < 1157390132 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no prob < 1157390556 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even in Brainfuck, it wouldn't be terribly hard. < 1157390559 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1157390590 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wishes he had sufficient motivation to work on his macro languag < 1157391202 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets the Motivator < 1157391955 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets the bleach to clean up after the Motivator < 1157392035 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lime and a roll of carpe < 1157392038 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* carpet < 1157392072 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION calls the media < 1157392085 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any use of the Motivator has to be caught on film. < 1157392106 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, any failed attempt to use the Motivator. < 1157392413 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-21-200.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157393436 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the moral of this story: Be careful what you wish for, *especially* in #Esoteric < 1157393448 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1157394940 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1157395673 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157400353 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION curses even more at his damned macro system < 1157401281 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION clumsily makes his way through POV-Ray < 1157401410 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :POV-Ray \o/ < 1157401523 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I give the thing some sort of ambient lighting or background color or something? < 1157401566 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb, one sec < 1157401634 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :harrumph < 1157401639 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, what was your question? < 1157401653 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I give this stuff some background color other than black? < 1157401729 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :background { rgb } < 1157401833 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1157401842 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard to see a black sphere on a black background. < 1157401864 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So give the objects colour :-P < 1157401921 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I do that? :-P < 1157401950 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sphere { , r pigment { rgb } } < 1157402135 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there's the #default directive to change the default from black: < 1157402160 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically what I'm saying here is: RTFM :-3 < 1157402165 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also some material editors for pov-ray. < 1157402214 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real Men code it by hand :-3 < 1157402221 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If one likes point-and-clicking gradients more than entering numeric RGB values. < 1157402236 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie, if one is a girly-boy < 1157402237 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real Men write code to generate their .pov files. :p < 1157402244 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In FORTRAN.) < 1157402264 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*BACKWARDS* < 1157402677 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uphill both ways! < 1157402799 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh... < 1157402838 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or they write INTERCAL code that compiles to backwards FORTRAN code. < 1157402895 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or they write Malbolge code. < 1157402904 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*barf* < 1157402962 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good think there aren't many real men out there. < 1157402970 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THey do all of this while eating Haggis! < 1157403014 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :real men don't eat haggis < 1157403030 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's for girly-boys who are trying to prove themselves to be real men < 1157403041 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1157403090 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do real men prove themselves to be real men? < 1157403095 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. those Haggis eaters even wear skirts. How girly is that? < 1157403147 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION h8s on kipple_ < 1157403156 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also wear a kilt, girly-boy < 1157403163 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: they don't need to < 1157403180 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1157403186 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everybody just knows that they're real? < 1157403194 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can look at him without your face spontaneously breaking, he's a girly-boy < 1157403199 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, a real man < 1157403205 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, like the GNU Emus. < 1157403213 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: The real men are willing to fight Chuck Norris. :p < 1157403216 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We know they exist, somewhere. < 1157403239 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://greyfire.org/picture_library/kilt3.jpg \o/ < 1157403240 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: so Chuck Norris is not a real man, or Chuck Norris is willing to fight himself? < 1157403246 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my, would you happen to be Scottish, GreyKnight? < 1157403253 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: Damn right, Chuck Norris is willing to fight himself. < 1157403262 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, he's one step above a real man, so. . . < 1157403270 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irish, but we originally (mists of time) come from Scotland < 1157403274 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooh. Chicken allows you to do low level Scheme. < 1157403287 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You must all be real men, except GregorR and maybe others, because I can't look at any of you.) < 1157403292 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is just as well, because the Irish regional tartans are crap :-( < 1157403293 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're a Scots-Irish?! < 1157403305 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: The only reason you can't look at us is distance. < 1157403314 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1157403318 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially the Antrim one (which is what I would get). It's pretty poor. < 1157403328 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you look at us, and your face doesn't break, then we're not real men. < 1157403341 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can trace his family back to England. . . < 1157403354 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can trace my family back to India. < 1157403357 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks back one generation. < 1157403372 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there is a picture (or a couple) of /me in the interweb, so I'm rather lookable in a technical sense. < 1157403396 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks back to pre-Revolutionary War America. . . < 1157403433 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, somewhere along the line one of my ancestors slept with a French guy, but whatever. < 1157403444 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hence my French last name.) < 1157403453 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My commiserations. < 1157403465 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. It's a horrible language. < 1157403475 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a very, very British last name. . . < 1157403480 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worcester. Wheee. . . < 1157403483 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canterburry? < 1157403489 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bury < 1157403501 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww. I love the British last names that end with -bury. < 1157403506 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They sound so.... British. < 1157403507 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1157403536 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My last name comes from a bloody city in England. 'Tis quite British to me. :p < 1157403617 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why British last names don't end with -sex :(. < 1157403619 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My last name is "Kallasjoki", which I guess is about as far as you can get from being British, without using a different script. < 1157403635 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can name a city with that, why not a person's last name? < 1157403792 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're counties, not towns :-P < 1157403804 0 :jix__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :J|x < 1157403820 0 :J|x!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :jix < 1157403856 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop making excuses for Middlesex. < 1157403859 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{middle,es,sus}sex from {middle,east,south} seaxe (Saxons) < 1157403897 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, Sexual would mean ``Regarding the Saxons'' ? < 1157403927 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Careful! That conclusion's slippery, don't jump on it! < 1157403930 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wessex too (west), but is there a Nossex? ;) < 1157403950 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Midd*le(se)*x < 1157403967 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wessex no longer exists :-P < 1157403973 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: But the scots originally came from Ireland. So if you're Irish but originally came from Scotland, then you're Irish but originally-originally came from Ireland :P < 1157403983 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about susessex? < 1157403990 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION head asplode < 1157404007 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :susessex is quite asplodey indeed. < 1157404032 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, looking at the archaic notation for vectors in physics, this way is more entertaining and just as obfuscating. < 1157404053 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :30 degrees Susessex! < 1157404158 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You think archaic vector notations are strange? Look at tensors. Your head will asplode. < 1157404765 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1157405008 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157405928 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to figure out a regexpy way of replacing "foo" with "$foo". < 1157405931 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody's in ##quantum. < 1157405937 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: s/foo/$foo/? < 1157405944 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a quantum question... < 1157405951 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: That doesn't work quite so well in Tcl regexps. < 1157405960 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1157405966 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1157405967 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/foo/\%foo/, then? < 1157405989 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm s/foo/\$foo/ < 1157406018 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :regsub {regexp to be matched} {string to do substitution in} {what to replace with} < 1157406102 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum question? < 1157406147 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1157406160 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Heisenberg has me. < 1157406163 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should just call sed. :p < 1157406296 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A just policy is one which you would accept without knowing which side of it you'd be on." < 1157406307 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taxes are unjust, then. < 1157406359 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to say that they aren't... < 1157406365 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tax money doesn't just disappear into the ether, though < 1157406380 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're supposed to be used to provide useful national services and whatnot < 1157406403 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disturbs me that I had to include "supposed to" on that < 1157407109 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1157407112 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon < 1157407114 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl < 1157407159 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen !quine < 1157407176 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :76 +++++++++++[>+++>++++++++++>><<<<-]>.>+++.++++.------------.+++++.---------. [402] < 1157407241 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmh, eh. < 1157407614 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157407740 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157408629 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157408664 0 :marinus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157409467 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1157410330 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1157410528 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I demand GregorR. < 1157410532 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is he?!?! < 1157410542 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1157410553 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you want him for? < 1157410660 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to know what RawIRC can (or more aptly, cannot) do. < 1157410679 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1157410692 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can port it. < 1157410751 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think RawIRC = TCP client + IRC syntax highlighting + display of undisplayable characters + entry of untypable characters. < 1157410786 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1157410830 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And remember that MemoServ + pastebin = email :-) < 1157410854 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that everyone can see your email. < 1157410873 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone can see Pastebin too. < 1157410896 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's why everyone can see your email. < 1157410901 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to stick it in a pastebin. < 1157410912 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly. < 1157411075 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got the macro system working. < 1157411103 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So email GregorR your question :-) < 1157411112 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION much abused Tcl to do so < 1157411156 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zomg < 1157411187 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU'RE HERE! < 1157411193 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION kisses Gr--wait, what? < 1157411199 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg again < 1157411224 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet + coloring + macros + auto-ping-pong + auto-jon/auto-identify < 1157411242 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not give you typability of untypable characters, that's provided by ^(whatever) already < 1157411252 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, plus it carries the line you're typing. < 1157411273 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can press control-C and it'll just type that character? < 1157411283 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, ^C will kill it :P < 1157411286 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^A will give you \1 though < 1157411295 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That means itstehsuckulose < 1157411423 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coloring?! < 1157411431 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heww yeah < 1157411432 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What hell?! < 1157411440 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codu.org/rawirc.png < 1157411450 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if some guy on IRC says ANSI terminal control codes? < 1157411462 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha :P. < 1157411466 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: Anything unprintable is converted to a . < 1157411484 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the dots color-coded or anything? < 1157411488 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1157411493 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course not. Pshhh. < 1157411529 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That means it sucks random things and you fail at life. < 1157411533 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1157411566 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it still do the annoying line echoing? < 1157411608 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am victorious! < 1157411614 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No you're not. < 1157411628 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR loses, but that doesn't mean you win. < 1157411704 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll bet he's furiously coding the feature to get rid of nonprintable characters right now. < 1157411721 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: No. < 1157411722 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's spam him with ASCII control characters! < 1157411724 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is victorious, because he has his macro system working < 1157412503 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157413205 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has combined the two-stage compiling thing into a single stage. :D < 1157413701 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"." < 1157413756 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"." isn't a quit message! < 1157413789 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... it's... < 1157413792 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...an alligator! < 1157414490 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a stingray zomg its gonna kill the crocodile hunter < 1157414534 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's going to cause bad humor all over the internets! OH NOEZ! < 1157414810 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Almost* got it working. < 1157414818 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got an issue with the regexps. < 1157414845 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which seem to hate me. < 1157414894 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use them well, and they will love you. Use them poorly and your skin will be LASHED OFF. < 1157414907 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aipe! < 1157414911 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is getting his skin *lashed off*. < 1157414922 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I won't use regexes at all, then. < 1157414924 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I very rarely get regexps wrong. Dunno why. < 1157414931 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got the regexp matching things I don't want in my macro engine. . . < 1157414986 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regexps is by far my favorite parsing method. < 1157414995 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In retrospect, the rough equivalent of s/$varname/\$$varname/ was probably a bad idea. < 1157415012 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially when you've got a variable named "y" in your macro called "copy". < 1157415208 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for that little bug in the macro parsing proc, this thing seems to be solid. . . < 1157416486 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :T3h fixed. < 1157416524 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it's more like s/ $varname / \$$varname / s/ $varname/n/ \$$varname/n/ < 1157416535 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kludgish? Yeah. Does it work? :) < 1157416700 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/\b$varname\b/ is what I'd use. < 1157416755 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it were sed's regexp syntax, then I'd do just that. < 1157416778 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, if I knew regexps, I'd do something less kludgish, so. . . < 1157416909 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157416942 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're matching end-of-line in the second one, it should probably be something like "s/ $varname$/ \$$varname/", since '$' is the zero-width "matches at end of line" thing. < 1157416946 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11fa5b3.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157416964 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION almost types NetHaskell < 1157416966 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course if you're not using regexps to do the matching, it doesn't much matter. :p < 1157416979 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHaskell: the best language for programming roguelikes. < 1157417007 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHaskell? < 1157417047 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack + Haskell = NetHaskell. < 1157417062 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone ported Nethack to Haskell? < 1157417069 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:31:08 i have more pedestrian aims, like writing nethack in haskell ;P < 1157417069 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. < 1157417074 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Says Google on the subject. < 1157417075 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1157417105 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(On #haskell in Freenode. Or is that ##?) < 1157417107 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders the fact that hitting tab puts "GregorR: " in his box thingy < 1157417123 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell, yeah. < 1157417136 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what he's doing in #steve-irwin and #stingray < 1157417154 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or am I not in either of those? < 1157418842 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finally has stuff working. . . < 1157418917 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, my standard macros package is broken. < 1157418924 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1157418942 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :T3h b0rb, t3h b0rk, t3h b0rk, b0rk b0rk! < 1157418965 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's tëh børk. < 1157418996 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I go ahead and make a simple spec to go with the simple compiler? < 1157419047 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION loves his very, very simple way of getting the code parsed. . . < 1157419076 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just set up a Tcl slave interpreter, remove it's builtin commands, and replace them with aliases that compile the macro language's commands. < 1157419083 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let Tcl parse for me. < 1157419086 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1157419140 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thubi might be really good for writing parsers. < 1157419357 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thubi Dead! < 1157419388 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. Chicken is fast. < 1157419463 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got a tarball. < 1157419515 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nickv111.is-a-geek.com:8080/~pikhq/bfm.tar.bz2 < 1157419761 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thoughts? Comments? "You're a fucking idiot"? < 1157421389 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is going to take a guess that nobody has looked yet < 1157421695 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're a fucking idiot. < 1157421702 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1157421705 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Care to explain? :p < 1157421713 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah. No comment yet. < 1157421730 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... I wonder what control characters GregorR used. < 1157421748 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is of the opinion that it kicks ass, but. . . < 1157421807 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If nothing else, it makes things nicer because one can operate on variables instead of locations in memory. < 1157422108 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someday, when I'm bored enough, I am going to create *and test* a standard BFM library. . . < 1157422181 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some sort of handy control character to find out the number of lines/columns in your terminal? < 1157422323 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll use Ncurses for portability. < 1157422523 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can move the cursor into the bottom right corner, then use Cursor Position Report to find out where it is < 1157422833 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a character to move it to the bottom right corner? < 1157423475 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a character, no, but there is a control sequence < 1157423508 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pulls out a copy of ECMA-48 < 1157423591 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CUP with suitably large values < 1157426297 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lubs BFM < 1157427143 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1157428729 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157429163 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Rawr. < 1157429190 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nickv111.is-a-geek.com:8080/~pikhq/bfm.tar.bz2 Shameless plugging. Wheee. < 1157430213 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@167.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157430337 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi pikhq < 1157430351 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that? < 1157432345 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if anyone tried to use multiple channels with RawIRC. < 1157432855 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use multiple channels with RawIRC. < 1157432877 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works fine, though it's not easy to follow :P < 1157434245 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1157434446 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Tis cool. Chicken has low-level constructs too. < 1157434462 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Although I can't really find a use for a pointer in Scheme, except in a BF interpreter. < 1157434866 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157434879 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@167.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157440674 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157443199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1157443200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1157444727 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you get a ``NOTICE AUTH :*** Found your hostname, welcome back'' from an IRC server, is everything after ``NOTICE '' considered the parameter? < 1157444814 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The parameters are separated by spaces, except that the last parameter may be prefixed by a ":", and then it runs to the end of line. < 1157444828 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in your example there are two parameters, "AUTH" and "*** Found ...". < 1157444835 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was correct then! < 1157444842 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woohoo ABNF skillz! < 1157444857 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1157449980 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157451184 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1157455937 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ifndef_GREGOR_H: pingities pingities < 1157458925 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference" < 1157459736 0 :_Ann_!n=anovikov@ir.lealta.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1157459791 0 :_Ann_!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1157460040 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157463931 0 :jix!n=jix@L61a1.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157466785 0 :sp3tt!n=sp3tt@80-162.cust.umeaenergi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157467362 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157468574 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1157468694 0 :Ramza!n=Ramza@dialup-1.205.220.203.acc01-fred-lau.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1157468727 0 :Ramza!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please welcome me to the channel. < 1157468769 0 :Ramza!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What processing time. < 1157468770 0 :Ramza!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157469648 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIGIMPT: Impatient User < 1157474483 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157474793 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps d < 1157474796 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 EgoBot: daemon cat reload < 1157474798 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 EgoBot: daemon EgoBot reload < 1157474800 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 GregorR-W: ps < 1157474801 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cat in the hat < 1157474804 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the hat < 1157474813 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!EgoBot will probably screw this up. < 1157474816 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will probably screw this up. < 1157474821 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not :) < 1157474959 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157475139 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1157475296 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, this beauuuuuuuuutiful stingray is usually totally harmless to humans. < 1157475304 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if provoked, its sting can be fatal! < 1157475309 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm going to poke it with a stick! < 1157475316 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY STINGRAY! HEEEEEEEEEY STI--AUGGGH < 1157475332 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[RIP Steve Irwin] < 1157475878 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157476606 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157476624 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, runlevel randomly and unpredictably dropping, woooh < 1157477107 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION continues making sweet love to BFM < 1157477143 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION continues very consciously averting his eyes. < 1157477192 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1157477846 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1157479347 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-23-68.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157481758 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1157482721 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cannot write checkpoint image < 1157482789 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1157482812 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1157482814 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My HD is full < 1157483287 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1157483628 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor$ rm -rf ~/pron < 1157483694 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that doesn't work, then I'll accuse you of being a prude. < 1157483834 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pff, that directory doesn't exist. < 1157483839 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a DVD burner, pikhq. < 1157483910 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157483914 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prude. < 1157483962 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if {![file exist ~/pron]} {set Gregor $prude} < 1157484486 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1157484746 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So wait, being able to spell == prude? :P < 1157484833 0 :smokecfh!n=user@53549344.cable.casema.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1157484918 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157485242 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'ello kipple_ < 1157485365 0 :ihope__!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157485373 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1157486306 0 :smokecfh!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157486601 0 :|666|!n=XDMCP@pD9E5B182.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157486697 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-61-29.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157486897 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157486976 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157487045 0 :|666|!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157487063 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157487754 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello gregor < 1157488353 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1157493753 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157493927 0 :jix!n=jix@L61a1.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157494177 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1157494211 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157494222 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :har rammen din konka? < 1157494224 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops wrong chat < 1157494232 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGGH, TEH NOT ENGLISH < 1157494288 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1157494371 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157496752 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h41.228.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157496830 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157496857 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood_ < 1157497205 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: Yes, spelling ability equates to prudeness. < 1157497784 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your female parent or guardian is obese to the degree that it is necessary for her to wear clothing as much as five sizes larger than the average for her height, age and gender categories! < 1157497789 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooooooooooooooooooooh, what now bizzich < 1157497817 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not true. < 1157497825 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My female *stepparent* is, however. < 1157497834 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parent OR GUARDIAN < 1157497858 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She's not my guardian, she's a person that I want to hit over the head with a fuckin' baseball bat. < 1157497866 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Legal term ;) < 1157497866 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lives with his biological mother. . . < 1157497876 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1157497971 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a stepparent is a parent's spouse who is not a parent? < 1157498011 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's normally what it means. . . < 1157498069 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1157498086 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generally it also implies that the marriage happened before the child was 18. < 1157498098 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1157498188 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if your parents are married, then your mother dies and your father gets married, then your father dies and your stepmother gets married? < 1157498219 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then she's still your stepmother, I believe. . . < 1157498242 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She is also just the same as your actual parent towards the law. < 1157498251 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about the person your stepmother married? < 1157498260 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is he your stepfather, or your stepstepfather, or what? < 1157498264 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stepfather, I *think*. < 1157498292 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION votes for a much less arbitrary way of stating family relationships < 1157498304 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a simple GED file? :p < 1157498336 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GED file? < 1157498344 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, we need notation. < 1157498360 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A GED file *is* notation. . . < 1157498370 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's quite nonvague. < 1157498382 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, it's sufficient for plotting a full family tree. < 1157498411 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sufficient for the fuckin' *Mormons* and their polygamy. I *think* it can handle such relatively simple relationship issue. :p < 1157498480 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :F means father, M means mother, S means last spouse, C means last child. < 1157498493 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PS is second-to-last spouse, PPS is third-to-last spouse, etc. < 1157498500 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likewise for PC, PPC, etc. < 1157498527 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've come up with a compressed form of GED, I believe. < 1157498534 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then E is "me" or something. < 1157498540 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hates that. < 1157498549 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without a P, it should be first. < 1157498559 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way you can have more children without rearranging the whole F'ing thing. < 1157498560 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm E, my dad is FE, his dad is FFE... < 1157498581 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. C means first child, but S is still last spouse? < 1157498590 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Change that, too. < 1157498598 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmh. < 1157498601 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, they're both first. < 1157498609 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I is a conditional. < 1157498613 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h41.228.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157498622 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . .?!? < 1157498625 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IC < 1157498627 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1157498635 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to make a Turing complete notation for family relations? < 1157498648 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ICE12 means "if I have a child, then 1, else 2". < 1157498665 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no, this notation won't support recursion. < 1157498692 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I123 means if 1 exists then 2 else 3. < 1157498694 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IFEE_. :p < 1157498716 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have a father, then me, else _? < 1157498726 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supposed to represent null. < 1157498736 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If I have a father, then me, else nothing." < 1157498877 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1157498879 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That < 1157498881 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'d work. < 1157498894 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But couldn't we call it N? < 1157498900 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd work. < 1157498904 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IFEEN. < 1157498916 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stating, simply, that one cannot exist without a father. < 1157498934 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume the arguments for this could be grouped to allow for non-vagueness? < 1157498945 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grouped? < 1157498946 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I(FE,ME)EN, for example? < 1157498956 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1157498994 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have a mother and a father then me else nothing? < 1157499008 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIFEMENEN. < 1157499031 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157499040 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have if-I-have-a-father-then-my-mother-else-nothing then me else nothing. < 1157499175 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157499232 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has an expressiveness corresponding to the ordinal number omega! < 1157499233 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? < 1157499581 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :macro foo {bar baz} {while baz {add bar 1;subtract baz 1}};@ foo 1;@ bar 0;add foo 50;add bar 20;foo foo bar < 1157499659 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Is equivalent to: >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++<++++++++++++++++++++[>+<-] < 1157499780 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terrible coding, I admit. It *does* work, though. < 1157501176 0 :GreyKnight!n=wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157501184 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I've been thinking < 1157501196 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should invent a "Nomiki" < 1157501217 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie, a nomic wiki < 1157501752 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION edits the main page to say "This page is protected from all further edits, and I win" < 1157502005 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1157502451 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen foo, bar, and baz, but what if you need more? < 1157502473 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quux, quuux, quuuux... < 1157502483 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you need uncountably many, you're on your own. < 1157502488 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw man. < 1157502497 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should go the car/cdr route. < 1157502499 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check the RFX. < 1157502509 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RFC. < 1157502509 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foz, foaz, faoz, faaoz, baoz. < 1157502527 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Qaddaddaddaaaddaddax? < 1157502560 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Metasyntatic variables]] should have the RFC's list on i.t < 1157502729 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order to name my generic variables, I either use the GNU scheme (foo, bar, baz) or I use My Scheme (TM) (blah, bleh, blargh). < 1157502753 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It all kinda depends on my mood. < 1157502823 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use meh, nuh, feh, and blargeth, if I need to go so far. < 1157502890 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then blargetheth, blargethetheth, etc? ;-) < 1157502891 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, (foo, bar, baz) are from the RFC. . . < 1157502898 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which RFC? < 1157502906 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a whole bunch of them. < 1157502926 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foobarbaz predate that RFC as well. Their origins are lost in the mists of time, really < 1157502940 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT RFC?! < 1157502944 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHICH one is THAT? :P. < 1157502945 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. Can't find the RFC ATM, but I can find one describing the etymology. < 1157502971 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind. That one also contains the list. < 1157502972 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3092 < 1157503001 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I get an ABNF on Metasyntactic Variables? < 1157503013 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err. . . < 1157503017 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww.... < 1157503064 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia states that it's got the list, but the RFC doesn't. < 1157503076 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind. It does have the list. < 1157503094 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :r, baz, qux, quux, corge, grault, garply, waldo, fred, plugh, xyzzy, thud < 1157503100 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo, bar, baz, qux, quux, corge, grault, garply, waldo, fred, plugh, xyzzy, thud < 1157503103 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. < 1157503153 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable = "foo" / "bar" / "baz" / "b" 1*("a"/"o) ("z"/"r) < 1157503161 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I propose the ABNF definition be. < 1157503274 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, that'll get you a variable name that's sure to be the Drunken Coder's favorite: ``booz''. < 1157503343 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable = "foo" / "bar" / "baz" / "qux" / "quux" / "corge" / "grault" / "garply" / "waldo" / "fred" / "plugh" / "xyzzy" / "thud"/ "b" 1*("a"/"o) ("z"/"r) < 1157503355 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RFC compliance is important. :p < 1157503363 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grault?! < 1157503399 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I propose a new RFC then? < 1157503458 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel free. < 1157503467 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wait til April 1st. < 1157503481 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's a real RFC proposal! < 1157503498 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't we all want standardized metasyntactic variables in our code? < 1157503510 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope :-P < 1157503517 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the current RFC was on April 1st, so. . . < 1157503517 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we do, we've got foobarbaz < 1157503547 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's long! < 1157503654 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't believe the Scheme standard doesen't have a fold-* function. < 1157504119 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And faobaofaobaz isn't long? < 1157504235 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: a what function? < 1157504501 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now why the heck is this link, which is simply blue text, a JPEG image rather than actual text? < 1157504570 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reckon somebody couldn't figure out how to set the :active (etc) colours to blue < 1157504578 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they made it an image so's it'd stay blue < 1157504600 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And figure that "Oh, it looks just the same, anyways." < 1157504615 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody will notice the JPEG artifacts. < 1157504635 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've never used fold functions before? < 1157504637 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Course not. < 1157504656 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You and your imperial madness :O < 1157504658 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foldr, foldl, and the like. < 1157504670 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 folds < 1157504678 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember reading about fold functions the first time and thinking ``Why the heck will I ever need this?!'' :P. < 1157504687 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are those the folds you're talking about, or is there another type of fold function? < 1157504696 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. foldr, foldl, and the like. < 1157504703 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to make my own fold-right function. < 1157504747 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's Scheme's conditional stuff work? < 1157504782 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The R5RS has no pattern matching in it, if that's what you mean. But Chicken has an add-in for pattern matching. < 1157504796 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although not nearly as elegant as Haskell or OCaML's versions. < 1157504830 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(defun foldr (f b l) (cond ((null l) b) (something (f (car l) (foldr f b (cdr l)))))) <- my little foldr function < 1157504848 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"something"? < 1157504849 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much. < 1157504868 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although why you're using (cond) is anyone's guess :P. < 1157504898 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. I see. < 1157504915 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even still, bleh. Use (if) instead. < 1157504980 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(defun foldr (f b l) (if (null l) b (f (car l) (foldr f b (cdr l)))))? < 1157504984 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny, just a few days ago you made the opposite recommendation to me :-P < 1157504990 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (cond) is a *lot* cleaner. < 1157505101 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if (a) (b)) is unclean? < 1157505128 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made that reccomendation because I'm not being a Scheme parser here :P. < 1157505430 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah < 1157505470 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, the full function looks like: < 1157505481 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(define (fold-right function initial list) (if (null? list) (function initial initial) (if (null? (cdr list)) (function initial (car list)) (fold-right function (function initial (car list)) (cdr list))))) < 1157505594 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I can contract that definition a bit. < 1157505636 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(function initial initial)? < 1157505646 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That... doesn't really make sense. < 1157505650 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1157505667 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Changed for that reason, and the obvious redundancy in my code :P. < 1157505718 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. Now it'll be trivial to parse each IRC message. < 1157505742 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh... does (lambda (x) (lambda (y) (x y))) work in Scheme? < 1157505802 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why shouldn't it? < 1157505826 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, does it? < 1157505838 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should. Let me check to double-check. < 1157505856 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (((lambda (x) (lambda (y) (x y))) car) '(1 2 3)) < 1157505866 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes certain people < 1157505891 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"-" < 1157505902 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait. It wouldn't work. But let me check in case. < 1157505912 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1157505918 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why doesn't it work? < 1157505926 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wakes < 1157505932 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION enables lisp stuff < 1157505944 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Errr....... < 1157505957 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: did it start working? < 1157505959 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (((lambda (x) (lambda (y) (x y))) car) '(1 2 3)) < 1157505960 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mistype :D (lesson learned: copy and paste if possible). < 1157505960 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> NIL < 1157505962 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#! Error: (@)(1124) FIRST ITEM IS NOT A SYMBOL OR LAMBDA (''((LAMBDA (X) (LAMBDA (Y) (X Y))) CAR)') < 1157505965 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. It works. < 1157505969 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*crash* < 1157505972 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wahp wahp wahp. < 1157505985 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it should work. I misread and mistyped. < 1157505991 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should work? < 1157505997 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should work and it does work. < 1157506008 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@do eval (lambda (x) (lambda (y) (x y))) < 1157506013 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using the same as what ihope just eval'd ? < 1157506018 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look, GreyKnight doesen't use Scheme. < 1157506024 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He uses his odd not-even-a-Lisp Lisp. < 1157506026 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1157506035 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval (lambda (x) (lambda (y) (x y))) < 1157506037 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> # < 1157506040 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. It works in Scheme. < 1157506043 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#do eval ((lambda (x) (lambda (y) (x y))) cdr) < 1157506045 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#> # < 1157506061 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still has lambdas, though, so I'm interested in where the error arrives < 1157506114 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something tells me it's in the replacing of the parameters in the result with the things passed in. < 1157506150 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like it < 1157506165 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to rewrite it all from scratch at some point < 1157506171 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1157506290 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to do my daily vocabulary. < 1157506309 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :さようなら、皆。 < 1157506337 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese? < 1157506345 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1157506358 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Japanese thing resembling a sentence? < 1157506365 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :l⃠o⃠r⃠i⃠m⃠e⃠r⃠ < 1157506376 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bonus points if that rendered correctly in your client < 1157506382 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No bonus points here then. < 1157506383 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't. < 1157506397 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "lorimer"? < 1157506414 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a slashed-circle over each letter < 1157506426 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How'd you manage that? < 1157506430 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using the U+20E0 combining character < 1157506476 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :combining characters aren't well-known for their wide support base :-/ < 1157506605 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh; my terminal renders all the characters as squares, while my browser just uses non-combining slashed-circles after each letter. < 1157506630 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i2.tinypic.com/2zsya6o.png < 1157506650 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: at least it tried :-3 < 1157506658 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"COMBINING ENCLOSING CIRCLE BACKSLASH", it seems. < 1157506673 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :l⃠ < 1157506676 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1157506692 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, here we go. < 1157506708 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's meant to circle two letters at once :-P < 1157506718 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, my Prolog-Scheme still works, and hasn't bit-rotted away. < 1157506720 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like th⃠is⃠... < 1157506737 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, I guess my client plain old doesn't like it. < 1157506738 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Like t[]i[]..." < 1157506801 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's xterm making an effort: http://greyfire.org/picture_library/combining.png < 1157506802 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :⃠ < 1157506811 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh. < 1157506815 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: They notoriously don't work well with proportional fonts < 1157506903 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The circle in firefox looks at least something that might fit a character well: http://zem.fi/~fis/tmp.png < 1157506912 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just doesn't want to combine. < 1157506984 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's the other common problem with them :-P < 1157506997 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :⃠ <- okay, there it is < 1157507132 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1157507140 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not wrong :-P < 1157508102 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, isn't it silly: < 1157508103 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|: (define (factor n) < 1157508104 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|: (let* ((factors (iota 2 n)) < 1157508104 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|: (x (apply amb factors)) < 1157508104 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|: (y (apply amb factors))) < 1157508106 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|: (if (= (* x y) n) < 1157508108 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|: (cons x y) < 1157508111 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|: (amb)))) < 1157508113 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# < 1157508116 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|: (factor 60) < 1157508119 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2 . 30) < 1157508121 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|: next < 1157508124 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3 . 20) < 1157508126 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[...] < 1157508129 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|: next < 1157508131 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(30 . 2) < 1157508133 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|: next < 1157508136 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evaluation failed. < 1157508263 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iota = ? < 1157508300 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\x -> x (\x y z -> x z (y z)) (\x y -> x) < 1157508304 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that :-P < 1157508376 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The usual; (define (iota start end) (if (<= start end) (cons start (iota (+ start 1) end)) '())) < 1157508390 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1157508500 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION forces BFM down everyone's throats < 1157508501 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure _how_ usual that is, actually, but it's not too rare: "Write iota as a LISP function that takes a positive integer as an argument and returns a list of the numbers between 1 and that integer." is a question in http://www.csee.umbc.edu/331/fall00/exams/finalreview.shtml (says Google). < 1157508597 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, 'amb' is probably the builtin that has the simplest implementation. < 1157509426 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1157510045 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1157510897 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION creates stdcons.bfm. . . < 1157511054 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, you, huh? < 1157511086 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157511094 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ? < 1157511338 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A set of macros containing the most efficient two-cell way of setting a constant. < 1157511364 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157511395 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm bored with that now. < 1157511404 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do a few more constants later. < 1157511407 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1157511427 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You managed to stay on one task for a whole 8 minutes there! ;-) < 1157511457 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, you try writing out all constants in BF. . . < 1157511638 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/c95.html < 1157511671 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1157511737 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/c10.html < 1157511876 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/c107.html <-- onoz < 1157512084 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/c30.html < 1157512133 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't get that one :-\ < 1157512312 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sn==tin. < 1157512411 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that one, but 30 is beyond me < 1157512422 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explain! < 1157512424 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comply! < 1157512494 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Snapple would be an apple made of tin. < 1157512530 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you know that's not on #30, right? < 1157512532 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/c30.html < 1157512535 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1157512555 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thinking of a different comic. < 1157512572 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Party of four. There are only three people, who are full. < 1157512616 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's funny because it isn't? < 1157512657 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. . . < 1157512673 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There *were* presumably four hungry people waiting to get into the restaurant. . . < 1157512681 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now, there are three full people. < 1157512712 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1157512713 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their poor, poor fourth friend. < 1157512721 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could use some bones or something < 1157513061 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/c74.html < 1157513723 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/c114.html < 1157514427 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Gasp*. < 1157514442 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1157514445 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The differences between AP Computer Science A and AP Computer Science AB are very difficult! < 1157514452 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You will have to know big-O notation for the latter! :O < 1157514456 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So difficult! < 1157514470 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must also be familiar with... *GASP* exceptions! < 1157514493 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wishes he bothered figuring out big-O notation. . . < 1157514493 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXCEPTIONS?! NO! WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO?!?!?!?!?!?! < 1157514519 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :onoz exceptions < 1157514542 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must also be familiar with recursion. Scary. < 1157514554 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... I guess it is scary for someone who hasn't programmed in a functional language before, haha. < 1157514652 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also can't understand why the AP book even points out that you need to know how to cast..... is that really a difficult concept? < 1157514737 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jebus. < 1157514742 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just sad. < 1157514755 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They use the example of storing a double in an integer. That's just pathetic. < 1157514771 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only bit I don't know is big-O notation, and that's only because I haven't needed it. < 1157514775 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd understand if you store a double in a float, and it's truncated or something, but a double in an integer? What hell? < 1157514824 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should point out to the students that they should be happy that casting exists, and you're not using C. < 1157514889 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jebus. < 1157514926 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be *understandable* to not know what casting is. . . *If* you had only dealt with weakly typed languages, and never needed it before. < 1157514949 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmnt[bomb]dood < 1157515024 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even Ruby casts... although in an odd way. < 1157515040 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, personally, haven't programmed in a language with implicit casting. < 1157515043 0 :bsmnt[bomb]dood!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1157515073 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a Tcler. < 1157515082 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does TCL have implicit casting? < 1157515087 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a single datatype: the string. < 1157515092 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157515092 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah, it's implicit casting. < 1157515102 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would make me feel weird :P. < 1157515122 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even in Scheme you cast with something like (string->list) . < 1157515237 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chicken is great. You can even make pointers if you wanted to. < 1157515504 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing I was thinking was that, if I learned Java, I could help out with Classpath. < 1157515516 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Assuming I could ever get the bloody thing to compile.) < 1157516232 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1157516534 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1157517946 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@24.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157527166 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157528071 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stacks and queues are ``advanced'' data structures. < 1157528075 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :``advanced''. < 1157528132 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zomg < 1157528135 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157528137 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stacks are the woahz < 1157528150 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah knaw, biatch. < 1157528180 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stax < 1157528184 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd hesitantly call the binary tree an advanced data structure, but I accept it. Still.... stacks? < 1157528202 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd put a binary tree JUST under the advanced line. < 1157528215 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be advanced, it has to either not have a name, or have a name that not every programmer knows ;) < 1157528220 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1157528245 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The AP book also devotes 3 pages to teaching Quicksort (more commonly known as ``bubble sort''). < 1157528256 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray, you spent 3 pages explaining to me a sort I devised when I was 9 years old! < 1157528282 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean they really do call bubble sort Quicksort there? < 1157528288 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some odd reason. < 1157528296 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what? < 1157528302 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, I've heard the phrase quicksort FAR more commonly than bubble sort. < 1157528312 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never heard of bubble sort. < 1157528321 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bubble sort is the canonical O(n^2) sort. < 1157528328 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard bubble sort a lot more often. < 1157528335 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird. < 1157528345 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quicksort != bubblesort < 1157528362 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just about to say - they're not quite the same. < 1157528366 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're fairly similar though. < 1157528394 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that quicksort is *good* :o) < 1157528440 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Hmmm, Quicksort is a bit more advanced. < 1157528452 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they have the same worst-case time complexity and all. Oh, and the results are rather similar. < 1157528465 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But seriously... that's meant for the advanced test only. < 1157528480 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come *on*. Quicksort is ``advanced'' ? < 1157528507 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugggh. No wonder the new batch of CS students in California are mindless zombies who only work for the smell of a paycheck. < 1157528514 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you consider stacks advanced data structures... < 1157528523 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1157528532 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if CS classes actually taught anything practical < 1157528534 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's too bad not everyone's a genius-man like you, Razor-X < 1157528546 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was introduced to BF by someone completely non-technical, actually. < 1157528557 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She seemed quite comfortable with the notion of a stack, without ever programming. < 1157528580 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crazy. I know. < 1157528622 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most people who've seen a physical stack of anything do inherently understand the concept of "you can put things on the top and also remove them". < 1157528664 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1157528673 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brits understand queues better than Americans ;) < 1157528687 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compared to that, quicksort's definitely non-trivial. Besides, the implementations might be considerably tricky; look at http://kotisivu.mtv3.fi/quux/qsort.html for example. < 1157528702 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, remember, they're not asking for a *good* implementation. < 1157528707 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Divide-and-conquer is trivial, really. < 1157528728 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The greatest part about the test seems that, they ask you to know what O(*) means, but not programming using that information. < 1157528734 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you understand recursion well enough < 1157528811 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think an introductory book on Java and the first 3 chapters of SICP are more valuable for this test than any other book. < 1157528843 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blekk, Java < 1157528850 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look. I need to know it. < 1157528853 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately. < 1157528881 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck, the first 3 chapters of SICP introduce concepts a lot more difficult than the entire test. < 1157528945 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hey, I was reading that SICP thing once. < 1157528972 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of forgot it existed. < 1157528976 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, the book I bought to learn Java (Java in a Nutshell) is pretty useful. < 1157528985 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, it's aimed for the experienced programmer so..... < 1157529007 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our university bookshop thing was selling SICPs for 5 EUR/book (since we don't teach Scheme here any more); a friend bought 10 of them. To spread the word. < 1157529011 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If this is AP Computer Science, it seems SICP is like a gold mine for the beginner programmer. < 1157529057 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was reading another book on Scheme... < 1157529065 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yeah, HTDP < 1157529079 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good book. < 1157529098 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used one book also by MIT Press that was a lot faster/better, and also supplemented that with Learn Scheme in Fixnum Days for the practical experience. < 1157529127 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then again, I had already banged my head raw with Common Lisp before, so it wasn't too difficult for me. < 1157529150 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yay, Common Lisp. < 1157529153 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gahh, HtDP. < 1157529162 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like ``Oh ugggh, Common Lisp.'' < 1157529177 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or sarcasm. < 1157529191 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL's motto should be: ``We'll give you a feature, even if we have to defile your child for it!'' < 1157529194 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The people who try to teach us that "lambda" is simply syntactic sugar for "local", which is their own, completely non-standard and unnecessary thing. < 1157529206 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION <3 CL < 1157529248 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As discussed in the introduction, a lambda-expression is just a short-hand for a local-expression." < 1157529260 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My R5RS says nothing about any "local"s. Bleh. < 1157529277 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't R6RS coming out shortly? < 1157529286 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that like LaTeX 3's ``shortly'' ? < 1157529329 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah, HtDP has a "learning language" version of Scheme, which was pretty annoying. < 1157529333 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guess sooner than LaTeX 3, but wouldn't hold my breath. (I don't think I _could_ hold my breath for more than a minute or so anyway.) < 1157529336 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering Scheme is already plenty simple. < 1157529417 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't been following R6RS progress since I forgot to re-join #scheme. < 1157529418 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems simple to me now, but I remember myself (attempting to) learn(ing) Common Lisp. < 1157529437 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the stupidest I've ever felt in my life :D. < 1157529457 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a status report from June 2006, so I guess they're still at least doing something. < 1157529477 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We intend to deliver a draft R6RS to the Steering Committee by September 1, 2006." < 1157529504 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 days later, is there a draft? < 1157529521 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of learning ConTeX only because I don't think LaTeX 3 will ever finish. < 1157529599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1157529600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1157529764 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the R6RS improvements seem sensible. There's standardized record types, module/library system, syntax-case and binary I/O (including block reads and such). Oh, and exceptions. And all this mostly based on existing SRFIs. < 1157529792 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never knew Scheme was this well done, else I wouldn't have even touched CL. < 1157529809 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shush, don't anger the LISPers. < 1157529818 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Do we have any here?) < 1157529825 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION points to GreyKnight. < 1157529844 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the initial reason I went to Haskell. < 1157529905 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at Haskell and then moved on to CL :-P < 1157529944 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I went to CL, learned it kinda, realized I was a CL failure and went on to OCaML. I felt this odd ``Ewww I hate this language'' feeling with OCaML, and found Haskell. < 1157529968 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell was nice until I found the monads < 1157529972 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1157529991 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things kinda went sour after that < 1157529998 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never wrote with Monads. I could read codes with Monads, and used some of their syntax for things normal syntax couldn't give me, but I hated Monads themselves. < 1157530059 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The dawn of a new IRC era" < 1157530062 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of my Haskell one-liners are pretty awesome though :D. < 1157532209 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saucy! < 1157532881 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Soviet Russia, you eat grue! < 1157537625 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"BRB" < 1157537837 0 :GreyKnight!n=wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157544017 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157545965 0 :pgimeno_!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157546000 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157546005 0 :pgimeno_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pgimeno < 1157547390 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1157547561 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157548749 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157548904 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1157550580 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157550639 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157558007 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157561950 0 :jix!n=jix@L63b8.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157562381 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157562565 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho-hum < 1157563018 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hum ho-hum. < 1157563061 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :raba-dam-tim-tim < 1157563099 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boom-chika-laka-chika-laka-chika-boom < 1157563199 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sees a lot of potential keywords for a new groovy esolang... < 1157563221 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh-ah-chicka-chicka... oooohhh yeaaaaahhh < 1157563245 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bow chicka bow wow. < 1157563287 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ba-dum tshhhh! < 1157563337 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bom-bom-tschh bi-dom-ti-dom-tschhh < 1157565287 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1157566971 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157570107 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-67-117-30-249.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157570180 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whee. . . < 1157570212 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That word is not allowed. Pay the price or suffer harsh penalty. < 1157570254 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fear the mighty Syntax Error penalty! < 1157570324 0 :ihope__!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157570357 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: an rpg language where you lose HP for syntax errors < 1157570493 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hits everyone with BFM whoring < 1157570692 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say it was a *good* idea < 1157571329 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157571861 0 :tgwizard_!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1157572528 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1157572606 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157572876 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157573454 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1157573708 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-22-83.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157576536 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h75.248.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157577572 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1157578718 0 :kipple__!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157579470 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"co'o rodo" < 1157579757 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157580145 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dreams up a nomiki language < 1157581176 0 :tgwizard_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157582188 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1157582353 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157585623 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157587084 0 :kipple__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157587713 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157587789 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157588430 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157588565 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157588568 0 :ihope__!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157588578 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1157589137 0 :ihope127!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157589146 0 :ihope127!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How'd that happen? < 1157589149 0 :ihope127!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope_ < 1157589166 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :._o < 1157589349 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So self-modifying programs are hard to compile efficiently? < 1157589408 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'twould appear so < 1157589488 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in it isn't so, or what? < 1157589557 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would appear to be the case that, inasmuch as a program possesses the ability to modify its own code, it is difficult to compile in a clean and efficient manner. < 1157589974 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Um, wouldn't compiling for a Von Neumann architecture make self-modifying code *easy* to compile? < 1157590002 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Call me ignorant) < 1157590020 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Von Neumman architecture? < 1157590101 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_neumann_architecture < 1157590196 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it might be easy to compile, but not necessarily easy to compile efficiently. < 1157590208 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And while it might be "easy" to compile in a general sense, it's still harder than a program that just sits and does something sanely :o) < 1157590275 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compiling self-modifying BF into the x86 architecture "the easy way" would probably result in inefficient stuff. < 1157590299 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you want efficient/optimized? < 1157590308 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, you might as well solve the halting problem. < 1157590359 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For an FSA, I'm assuming... < 1157590455 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FSA? < 1157590465 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finite-state automaton. < 1157590482 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not for an FSA. A Turing machine. :p < 1157590545 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a bounded tape? < 1157590555 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bounded on one end? < 1157590578 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With cells containing ordinal numbers that can't be raised, maybe? < 1157590591 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a pink bow on the head? < 1157590615 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, a Turing machine, as published in Turing's paper. . . ;) < 1157590648 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I get to write it in Brainhype? < 1157590694 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. For the Universal Turing Machine, bitch. < 1157590739 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's impossible! < 1157590740 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, *a* universal Turing Machine < 1157590755 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's more than one way to skin a cat :o) < 1157590762 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: My point exactly. < 1157590782 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: I'm making the UTM an arbitrary requirement. < 1157590963 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're saying it's impossible to optimize self-modifying code, then? < 1157591012 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, it's impossible to be sure that you've made any code perfectly optimised. < 1157591023 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, you would need to solve the halting problem to do so. < 1157591042 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if the self-modifying code is merely PDA-complete? < 1157591087 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it could be possible. < 1157591135 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1157591163 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hmms < 1157591176 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought there was a client at the other end of ihope. < 1157591190 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently not. < 1157591281 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eats ihope's corpse < 1157591294 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, aggravatastic. < 1157591368 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ulch, that meat was tainted! You feel deathly dick. < 1157591372 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/dick/sick/ < 1157591401 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You also ate ihope's dick, so you feel deathly dick as well. :p < 1157591402 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your dick feels deathly sick. < 1157591406 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1157591444 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION kicks everyone < 1157591472 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ouch! That hurts!) < 1157591495 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't eat THAT part :-\ < 1157591527 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You die from your illness. Do you want your possessions identified? [yn] (n) < 1157591530 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you *did* eat his corpse. < 1157591583 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stabs pikhq < 1157591590 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any other dissenters? < 1157591599 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oddly enough, "Do you want your possessions identified? [yn] (n)" gets no Google hits. < 1157591614 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try [ynq] < 1157591622 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was already a zombie :p < 1157591652 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at http://www.dailycharity.cjb.net/ < 1157591666 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still nothing. < 1157591748 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :curious < 1157592680 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly goes crazy and hits random things with other random things < 1157592712 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs in a random direction, then downloads a random program < 1157592846 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sets ihope's dial to "non-random" < 1157592882 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION calms down < 1157592900 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1157592911 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is way too proud of BFM. . . < 1157592966 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainf**ing mother? < 1157592970 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... eh. < 1157592975 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BrainFuck Macros. < 1157592995 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION got bored, and wrote a macro system for Brainfuck. Whee. < 1157593004 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeah. < 1157593050 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the adjective form of "paradigm"? < 1157593343 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's the same < 1157593380 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rewrote his little Brainfuck uncompression program in BFM. . . < 1157593561 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It differs in size by a handful of characters (only because my standard macros library is paranoid about clearing cells) when one strips comments from the compiled BFM code. . . < 1157593633 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The difference, though, is that the uncompiled source is much more readable. ;) < 1157594777 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . And I scared everyone off. < 1157594792 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're so scary. < 1157594793 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION caws < 1157594796 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hides from pikhq < 1157594811 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it my fault that I tried making Brainfuck a saner place? < 1157595015 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, when I look at the resulting code from BFM, if I ignore the overexuberant commenting, I end up thinking "Jeez, this Brainfuck coder was paranoid.". . . < 1157595057 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157595103 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h75.248.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157596422 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]" < 1157600163 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-231-173-86.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157600870 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A comparison between BFM coding and Brainfuck coding: < 1157600889 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BFM coding time for compress.bf: ~15 minutes. < 1157600905 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck coding time for compress.bf: Not yet finished. < 1157600912 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Started a few days ago. < 1157600917 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-o < 1157601002 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll look a bit more impressive once I get around to writing stdcons.bfm, though. < 1157601017 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently, it's doing one-cell versions of each constant. < 1157601139 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than that, and it's paranoid usage of [-], it looks like what you'd expect from a human writing the code. . . < 1157601183 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Fine. The output code is overcommented, too. < 1157601256 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1157601382 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION loves his little bit of work. :D < 1157601445 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before, I was proud. < 1157601448 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, I'm in love. < 1157601460 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a room ;-) < 1157601502 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should register #bfm :p < 1157602070 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1157602265 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what is bfm? < 1157602280 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a macro package for Brainfuck that I wrote. . . < 1157602283 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BrainF*** Macros < 1157602304 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic < 1157602352 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have arrays? < 1157602375 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't have a macro written for it yet. < 1157602440 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite frankly, I don't care enough about that to write one for it. < 1157602447 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written some code that only requires 2 cells per array element.. it's in bfbasic, which is hopefully still hosted on sf.net someplace :) < 1157602450 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1157602496 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem to work very well with how the macro system works, anyways. < 1157602500 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No relative addressing in it. < 1157602502 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1157602547 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, you knew that bf macros have been created before (many years ago)? < 1157602578 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably nothing like what you have, so it's still cool :) < 1157602642 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew. < 1157602652 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pretty much was bored, and felt like writing it. < 1157602668 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nickv111.is-a-geek.com:8080/~pikhq/bfm.tar.bz2 has my last tarball. < 1157602692 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to try and release another tomorrow, which will include, among other things, a collection of useful macros. < 1157602935 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds pimpcash < 1157602952 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :._o < 1157603241 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASSIGN phrase "pimpcash" : ADJECTIVE; CONNOTE @ "good" MODIFY "doubleplus"; END ASSIGN < 1157603271 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_. < 1157603277 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLS < 1157603279 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RUN < 1157603338 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1157603363 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go. < 1157603474 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'know, pikhq- I could hook you up with a *significantly* nicer file host/ shell/etc, if you're interested. < 1157603864 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's my friend's box, just so you know. . . < 1157603871 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is mildly interested, though. < 1157605843 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"sleep" < 1157605909 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157606339 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@243.orlando-04-05rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157606610 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: how does SSH/SFTP access, 2gb of storage, webhosting, GCC, and anything else (anything open source that is) that you want sound? < 1157609536 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1157610772 0 :sekhmet_!n=pez@ppp-70-226-144-113.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157611198 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheZzz < 1157611333 0 :sekhmet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157611339 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157611479 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-146-204.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157612376 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-67-117-30-249.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157612682 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1157613319 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-67-117-30-249.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157615999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1157616000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1157616085 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157616136 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157617002 0 :sekhmet_!n=pez@ppp-70-226-142-145.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157617021 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157617795 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157618563 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-141-199.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157619356 0 :sekhmet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157619399 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Leading Edge IRC" < 1157625957 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157626907 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157626920 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157635753 0 :RodgerTheZzz!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheGreat < 1157640999 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Ooooh. Could be handy. < 1157641009 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1157642158 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1157643838 0 :GreyKnight!n=wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157646625 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1157646905 0 :jix!n=jix@L63e4.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157647214 0 :sparr_!i=sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr JOIN :#esoteric < 1157647577 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/bfm.tar.bz2 New tarball up. < 1157647739 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1157647769 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including a standard macros library. :) < 1157647786 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoot < 1157647827 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I've not tested all of them, so. . . < 1157647929 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any old code examples should work with this new version. < 1157647942 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, this new version has gotten slightly fancier. . . < 1157650146 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157653081 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-20-109.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157654838 0 :smokecfh!n=user@53549344.cable.casema.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1157655545 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"temci lo nu citka" < 1157658451 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-23-166.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157659260 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157659618 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157659759 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157662710 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h167.235.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157664499 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"temci lo nu sipna .i co'o rodo" < 1157664830 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lojban! < 1157664912 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1157666321 0 :W_!n=W@198.80-203-25.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157666761 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My W fell off! < 1157666764 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, no, it's still there. < 1157666770 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's another one! < 1157667749 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1157669301 0 :ihope_!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157669559 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1157670849 0 :ihope__!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157670858 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1157671359 0 :smokecfh!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157671484 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157671556 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'know, I almost asked a java question in here, and then a tiny part of my brain screamed "GOD NO, YOU'LL BE EATEN ALIVE!" < 1157671570 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, I'll just link to D. < 1157671683 0 :ihope_!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157671853 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eats RodgerTheGreat alive < 1157671858 0 :ihope__!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157671876 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't eat Java fanatics. < 1157671881 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't taste any good at all. < 1157671888 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION punches out of GreyKnight's stomach and gleefully runs away with his spleen and kidneys < 1157671911 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smacks RodgerTheGreat around the head repeatedly. < 1157671916 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and who said I'm a fanatic? I *use* java, I don't worship it. < 1157671922 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that was pathetic, lartscript < 1157671923 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION begins to pray... All of the gods suddenly decide that RodgerTheGreat is unworthy! RodgerTheGreat is blasted to smithereens by a lightning bolt! < 1157671933 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly better, but still poor. < 1157671954 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is an atheist, and is therefore unaffected by GreyKnight's imaginary friends < 1157671960 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Ah, so you're just *dipped* in shit, not made of it. :p < 1157671970 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardy har har. < 1157671981 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, another Cool Kid < 1157672002 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a Christain, and is willing to do God's work for him < 1157672019 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "just *dipped* in shit" Brilliant XD < 1157672022 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets out a huge-ass capacitor bank, which is fully charged. < 1157672027 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: XD < 1157672049 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION avoids grounding himself < 1157672061 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you're in flight? < 1157672070 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who said I wasn't? < 1157672076 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From me kicking him in the ass < 1157672083 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has two ends to hit you with. . . < 1157672085 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He'll land in Timbuctoo somewhere, I think < 1157672109 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm willing to ground you. < 1157672132 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must ... not ... read as sexual euphemism ... < 1157672142 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::S < 1157672174 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION holds up a wire, which is connected at one end to a grounding rod in the ground < 1157672175 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITYM "innuendo" < 1157672236 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Sexual euphemism is a form of innuendo. < 1157672279 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://greyfire.org/picture_library/o-vraiment.png < 1157672286 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just sexual. < 1157672311 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Vhat de fuck? Bork bork! < 1157672339 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :._O < 1157672901 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1157673063 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157673443 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157674255 0 :ihope_!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157675312 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157677210 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157677818 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1157678357 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/0000000000]" < 1157679769 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157679853 0 :ZmFnCg!n=ZmFnCg@h-68-166-178-180.dnvtco56.dynamic.covad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157679898 0 :ZmFnCg!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1157679938 0 :bsmntbombdood_!n=gavin@unaffiliated/bsmntbombdood JOIN :#esoteric < 1157680124 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey! < 1157680143 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said something! < 1157680215 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm very happy for you. < 1157680259 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something about ._O being the new >_O. < 1157680442 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1157681098 0 :bsmntbombdood__!n=gavin@unaffiliated/bsmntbombdood JOIN :#esoteric < 1157681110 0 :bsmntbombdood__!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1157681351 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1157681654 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, night all < 1157681661 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1157681787 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo never says anything except goodbye :-\ < 1157683829 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1157684169 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@67-21-19-37.clspco.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157684739 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to give credit to the AP people, all their code is GPLed. < 1157684748 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1157684757 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157684764 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :``Many students avoid the Case Study because it appears too complex.'' <-- write any program that has decent functionality in the real world, and I'll bet it'll beat the complexity of this stupid case study out of the water. < 1157684773 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1157684784 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feh, write a BF interpreter and it'll make the case study look like child's play. < 1157684822 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What *is* the "case study", anyways? < 1157684884 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hello, world" < 1157684916 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Using three functions. < 1157684923 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :void main () { < 1157684930 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello(); < 1157684934 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :world(); < 1157684935 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1157684942 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :void hello () { < 1157684949 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf("Hello, "); < 1157684950 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1157684952 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It's a case study of marine biology. < 1157684954 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :void world () { < 1157684963 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf("World!\n"); < 1157684963 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that a vast majority of the test is based on code from this simulation. < 1157684963 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1157684988 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly pikhq, you need at *least* 11 functions! < 1157685018 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: One for each character? < 1157685035 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like "Hello, World" in BFM. :p < 1157685038 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naturally. < 1157685113 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Though the advanced OOP is a bit hard to follow for me since I rarely use OOP. I need to read more on Java OOP. < 1157685210 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java? < 1157685227 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think the AP Computer Science tests use? C? < 1157685286 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt they'd introduce little mindless CS acolytes to the concepts of functional languages either (except some tail-recursion). < 1157685364 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to teach that all Lisp languages are the devil, judging from some conversations I've had < 1157685423 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, my friends in AP CS already think so because they were forced to learn car and cdr for some other test. < 1157685433 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH NOES < 1157685438 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :car and cdr < 1157685446 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW WILL WE LIVE WITH OURSELVES < 1157685447 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And cdar and caadr :D. < 1157685455 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I still can't see the difficulty in, but I guess I've had exposure with these things. < 1157685635 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still can't get over the fact that exceptions are considered advanced concepts :D. < 1157685716 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How hard is it to explain the concept of "give up" :-? < 1157685756 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very hard. < 1157685760 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :escape hatch < 1157685763 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ejector seat < 1157685802 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exceptions as the ejector seats of programming < 1157687969 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157690644 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157690797 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1157691231 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1157692338 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157695162 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@44.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157696633 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1157697251 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-67-117-30-249.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157698356 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157699181 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157701827 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1157702399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1157702400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1157710310 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1157710360 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157715088 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157715874 0 :jix!n=jix@L60b2.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157722019 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1157730628 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157732814 0 :jix!n=jix@L60b2.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157733044 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157745259 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157745879 0 :ihope__!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157745889 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1157747247 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-20-7.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157747317 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1157747856 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, there's a guy called Ghastly who actually sings the whole 99bob song (I downloaded it from P2P), it takes him almost 19 minutes < 1157749016 0 :Razor-X`!n=user@user-11fa5b3.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157749098 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157749665 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h108.227.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157750239 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1157751617 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only 19 minutes ...? < 1157751676 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I guess that sounds about right actually :P < 1157751683 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only takes about 8 seconds to sing one lyric. < 1157752481 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157752598 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157753253 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157753253 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157754206 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157755886 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1157755980 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can make his computer sing it in less. . . :p < 1157756811 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably pretty hard to make a computer sing :) < 1157756987 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do it. . . In Brainfuck! < 1157757145 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget > /dev/dsp ;) < 1157757177 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. ;) < 1157757226 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe that just gave me a horrible idea < 1157757265 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :macro soundmanagement {args}? :p < 1157757267 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could cheat and record it then encode the samples in bf < 1157757268 0 :ihope__!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157757272 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1157757289 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :question becomes: how do I use /dev/dsp? < 1157757316 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, ls > /dev/dsp works < 1157757336 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder what rate it is playing at, stereo, mono, 16/8 bit etc < 1157757359 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's stereo 16 bit PCM, I believe. < 1157757422 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :44100? < 1157757443 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1157757571 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't be < 1157757586 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 44359 byte file played back for approx 5 seconds < 1157757601 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be over in less than a second with those settings < 1157757634 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope_ < 1157757752 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1157757756 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird. < 1157757761 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look up the OSS specs. < 1157757765 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh here we go.. 44359/5.629s=7880,440576.. pretty close to 8000 < 1157757790 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my guess is 8000/8bit/mono < 1157758003 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :AgentTeal < 1157758024 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be correct. < 1157758081 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least if it's the OSS (or ALSA's OSS emulation) /dev/dsp. < 1157758091 0 :AgentTeal!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR-W < 1157758099 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can poke at it with ioctls to change the rate, of course. < 1157758108 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not from bf :) < 1157758122 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, 8000 Hz should be enough for everyone. < 1157758135 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1157758140 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Thought you were the one who made EsoAPI. . . :p < 1157758144 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get 4 kHz tones, after all. That's something like a quarter of the hearing range. < 1157758146 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am < 1157758292 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1157760200 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1157760334 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, mplayer is my friend.. encoded an mp3 for /dev/dsp :) < 1157760374 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading that /dev/audio uses 1 bit per sample, trying that :) < 1157760627 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heheh. < 1157760637 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1157760649 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it compresses 12-16 bit into 8 bit (logarithmic) < 1157760661 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might sound better, gotta find the right combination of settings < 1157760684 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually.. hmm I could do 1 bit.. 0 or 255 to dsp :P < 1157760696 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this should sound awful! < 1157760718 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if audio can be dithered like image data < 1157762109 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dither white noise with pink noise to get light pink noise? < 1157762362 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: does egobf read the entire program before running it? < 1157762397 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Yes. It parses it into an intermediate representation. < 1157762402 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1157762411 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this 300mb program is probably a tad too large < 1157762429 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it failing or just taking a long time? < 1157762431 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It shouldn't fail ... < 1157762432 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :long time < 1157762445 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then yeah, that 300MB program is probably a tad too large ;) < 1157762467 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try using egobfc. < 1157762760 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, got it :) < 1157762767 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was a bug in my conversion program < 1157762778 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much smaller files now, can use egobfi8 < 1157762790 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1157762794 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just played 15 seconds of audio < 1157762801 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahaha < 1157762807 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compressed to a mere...100MB? < 1157762810 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :287076 < 1157762812 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bytes < 1157762817 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1157762832 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is just a really lame +++++.-----. algorithm < 1157762851 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it can be much smaller < 1157762855 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, but since it's audio, and forming a wave, that algorithm is actually fairly OK. < 1157762909 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is the magical incantation for mplayer: < 1157762913 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mplayer filename.mp3 -ao pcm:nowaveheader:file=output.dsp -srate 8000 -af-adv force=1 -af channels=1,format=u8 < 1157762939 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm < 1157762970 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can convert output.dsp to a bf program and enjoy < 1157762979 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Audio out to raw wave format with no header into the file output.dsp at the rate 8kHz with some weird feature forced, one channel, uncompressed 8-bit < 1157763016 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. That's the default setup for /dev/dsp. < 1157763036 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything more advanced requires more capabilities than Brainfuck has. < 1157763052 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ... umm, no? < 1157763061 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck is Turing Complete. < 1157763080 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mean if you want to change what format /dev/dsp is using before writing to it? < 1157763100 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: the weird feature is to set highest quality vs fast output < 1157763113 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :u8 = unsigned 80bit < 1157763116 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-bit < 1157763124 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157763151 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got what you said about the wave and algorithm.. good point :) < 1157763193 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and looking at the output proves you correct.. it's pretty decent < 1157763196 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: Care to explain using from BF? :p < 1157763224 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: So long as you only want printf and scanf :P < 1157763249 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, no. . . < 1157763263 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fopen. < 1157763265 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1157763630 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this 6m 19s song is 22,315,587 bytes of bf < 1157763900 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The question I have is how much smaller it would be in BFZ. < 1157763964 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do any interpreters run bfz? < 1157763994 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/bfz.tar.gz < 1157764005 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No; it's a compression program for Brainfuck. . . < 1157764024 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good idea tho < 1157764028 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the above tarball contains my BFM implementation, and not the one I submitted to the Esolang contest) < 1157764086 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uploading a test track :) < 1157764114 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be about 3 more minutes < 1157764152 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, never mind, time seems to keep climbing < 1157764174 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My BFM implementation should be much more concise once I get around to creating a program to do the shortest 2-cell versions of various constants. . . < 1157764177 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :image streaming bf audio.. hehe < 1157764182 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine rather < 1157764311 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Speaking of BFM, I should probably try and clean that up some more. < 1157764329 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe get a simple installation system for it. < 1157764357 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kidsquid.com/Moby - Go.bf < 1157764426 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1157764436 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it =) < 1157764444 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've got ourselves a new audio standard! < 1157764447 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is listening to it < 1157764761 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1157764918 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BFZ'ing it. . . < 1157764921 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if sopmeone can figure out the mplayer settings for mulaw, then it might sound better < 1157764942 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mulaw? < 1157764946 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mu-law < 1157764950 0 :Hierofant!i=Iron_Mon@24-176-80-241.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157764951 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157764953 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what /dev/audio uses < 1157764955 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moo? Law! < 1157764987 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: you probably wouldn't enjoy that song since you like country or whatever :) < 1157764996 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF?! < 1157765000 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- does NOT like country < 1157765014 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh what do you like < 1157765047 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moby.bfz is 4.9M. < 1157765053 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many things older than a hundred years or so. < 1157765170 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is 1,094,217 bytes bz2'd < 1157765173 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W likes the letters E and T. < 1157765178 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He uses them all the time. < 1157765241 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :........... < 1157765244 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh kay. < 1157765255 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/0000000000]" < 1157765267 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOO! I didn't mean to kill him! < 1157765280 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: what did that mean anyhow? :) < 1157765304 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR uses E and T a lot, doesn't he? < 1157765307 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't everybody? < 1157765436 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Yes. . . But BFZ requires only a Brainfuck interpreter to compress and decompress. < 1157765458 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure you could decompress bz2 with a bf program < 1157765478 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do *you* want to be the one to write that? < 1157765493 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I'llk leave it as an exercise for the reader < 1157765511 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BFZ, on the other hand, is already written in Brainfuck. < 1157765559 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems strange that the result is so large < 1157765573 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's RLE'ing +, -, < and >. < 1157765583 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are only 8 symbols, so it should be able to be compressed to 3/8 size < 1157765599 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3^2=8 < 1157765620 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :serr 2^3 = 8 < 1157765621 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1157765623 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I just didn't bother. . . < 1157765635 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with this, ther are only 3 symbols < 1157765637 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The format was made for the Esolangs contest. < 1157765646 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted something *simple* to write. ;) < 1157765651 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in a certain structure at that < 1157765677 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if we're doing unltimate compression or whatever, I could write a bf program that duplicates my audio2bf.c prog < 1157765696 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Care to give me the source to that? < 1157765701 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm willing to give it a shot. ;) < 1157765727 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, one min < 1157765739 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be trivial to implement this in bf < 1157765744 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'll do it in BFM, because I'm a little bit lazy ATM. < 1157765747 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder why I didn't think of doing it hehe < 1157765755 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfm won't really help hehe < 1157765775 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" Want to be different? HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-" < 1157765775 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, BFM is Brainfuck + variables + macros, so it's not much higher level. ;) < 1157765900 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kidsquid.com/files/bf/audio2bf.c < 1157765949 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a quick hack, as you can tell < 1157765972 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta go do homework, have fun! < 1157765976 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157766277 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to say < 1157766283 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just discovered esoteric languages < 1157766294 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my eyelashes are saturated < 1157766375 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1157766399 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up on implementing greater than and less than. :p < 1157766621 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eyelashes? < 1157766625 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saturated? < 1157766640 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... < 1157766648 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION saturates pikhq's eyebrows < 1157766798 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sends Chef to #cooking < 1157766844 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind. Found it. < 1157767492 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I surrender. < 1157767541 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only I had previously written the needed macros. < 1157768909 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION still loves how he wrote BFM. . . < 1157768929 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A parser? Who needs to write that? Tcl does the job for me. :p < 1157768940 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats bhm < 1157768959 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BFM. < 1157768965 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A macro system for Brainfuck. < 1157768992 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/bfm.tar.bz2 Current tarball. < 1157768996 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry my h==f macro wasnt installed < 1157769016 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll make another tarball soon as I bother cleaning up my current source tree. < 1157769018 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heheh. < 1157769033 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :macro h {char} {f char}? :p < 1157769187 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, I've not tested all of the macros in stdlib, so I can make no guarantee about their correctness. . . < 1157771234 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157772941 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See how non-kipple drives out kipple? < 1157772964 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1157774840 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157774922 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h108.227.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157774925 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1157774967 0 :Razor-X`!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Razor-X < 1157774967 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157775027 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157775033 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: You're back, I think. < 1157775036 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Where can I grab the most recent tarball of RawIRC? < 1157775040 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeh. I am. < 1157775091 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h108.227.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157775093 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157775158 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h108.227.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157775202 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lubs BFM some more < 1157775239 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of which, I now have a proper compression program for my contest entry. . . < 1157775302 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1157775355 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads fuckfuck source, laughs like 12 year old < 1157775370 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h108.227.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157775379 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1157775385 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God damn... what's up with my IRC connection? < 1157775584 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157776066 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: http://www.codu.org/rawirc.c < 1157776070 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No tarball, just a single C file. < 1157776214 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1157776230 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to write an Ncurses port, mmmkay? < 1157776238 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And try to get it to compile on Windows too. < 1157777600 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EEEW. < 1157777804 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should compile on Windows as-is. < 1157777805 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it won't work. < 1157777816 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ncurses? What a waste. < 1157778013 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1157778968 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1157778990 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@241.orlando-04-05rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157779861 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157780145 0 :dbc!n=dbc@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157783634 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-61-94.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157784131 0 :EgoBot!n=EgoBot@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157784131 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannot read elfstream /home/gregor/esoteric/egobot/egobot/daemons/.EgoBot < 1157784207 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps d < 1157784214 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 GregorR: ps < 1157784214 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 EgoBot: daemon cat reload < 1157784221 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-X < 1157784248 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!daemon EgoBot +[.++++++++++[>++++++>++++++++>+++<<<-]>-.++.>----.<++++++.++++++.-.>>-.[-]<[-]<[-]<[-]+>+[>,[>+>+<<-]>>---------->+<[>-<[-]]>[<<<<->>>>.-]<[-]<.[-]<<]<] < 1157784250 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops < 1157784254 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!daemon EgoBot bf +[.++++++++++[>++++++>++++++++>+++<<<-]>-.++.>----.<++++++.++++++.-.>>-.[-]<[-]<[-]<[-]+>+[>,[>+>+<<-]>>---------->+<[>-<[-]]>[<<<<->>>>.-]<[-]<.[-]<<]<] < 1157784257 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps d < 1157784262 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 GregorR: daemon EgoBot bf < 1157784266 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 EgoBot: daemon cat reload < 1157784270 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!EgoBot eats brains. < 1157784270 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 GregorR: ps < 1157784273 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eats brains. < 1157784328 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cat .sniarb stea toBogE! < 1157784334 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.sniarb stea toBogE! < 1157784855 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1157785829 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheZZzzz < 1157788799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1157788800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1157788826 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157788850 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: how'd it go? < 1157790146 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Good job being standardized *cough* assuming 80 columns *cough*. < 1157790312 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Nevermind. < 1157790425 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I'll be doing similar things to you. Using Ncurses doesen't mean using panels, because I don't think Chicken has any bindings for things like termios.h and signal.h. < 1157790547 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, being standardized. OH WAIT < 1157790551 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ACTUALLY WAS < 1157790555 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIGWINCH < 1157790564 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :killall -WINCH Razor-X < 1157790618 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157790770 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157790784 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1157794556 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157797122 0 :jix!n=jix@L62e0.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157797767 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1157798144 0 :jix!n=jix@L62e0.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157798259 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157800071 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-22-5.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157801999 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157805051 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157808054 0 :GreyKnight!n=wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157811257 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION yawns < 1157811346 0 :smokecfh!n=user@53549344.cable.casema.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1157815206 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157815458 0 :sparr_!i=sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr JOIN :#esoteric < 1157817597 0 :RodgerTheZZzzz!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheGreat < 1157821675 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-22-119.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157821970 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157822497 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"brb" < 1157824813 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157825979 0 :GreyKnight!n=wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157826892 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-22-17.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157827122 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1157827290 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157828238 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1157828541 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"temci lo no citka" < 1157830054 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1157830065 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hai2u < 1157830153 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't quite cracked /dev/audio yet.. but none of the mulaw recordings seem to work on it < 1157830184 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the /dev/dsp recordings play, but with a staticky sound < 1157830361 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess I spoke too son.. just found something < 1157830364 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon < 1157830374 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound/ulaw.h < 1157830412 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look like I gain anything by using ulaw < 1157830435 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just converts it to dsp < 1157830445 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess /dev/dsp is really superior < 1157830523 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only one could figure out how to do higher bit rates/sampling rates from /dev/dsp. < 1157830569 0 :Hierofant!i=Iron_Mon@71-87-238-046.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157831165 0 :Hierofant!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1157831355 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!learn ideas Rings of protection from shapechangers should be immune to being polymorphed < 1157831358 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1157831362 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1157831367 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong syntax AND wrong channel < 1157831372 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. . . < 1157831393 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a winner. < 1157831876 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I oughta actually write that parody generator thing. < 1157831942 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized I've never used Ncurses in a situation where input from another source gets printed on the screen without the user's consent. < 1157831962 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :嫌なことわね。 < 1157831970 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1157832001 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :嫌なことわね? < 1157832036 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda equivalent to ``This sucks'' or something like that. < 1157832082 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mutters about being the only BFM user. . . < 1157832106 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION points and laughs < 1157832123 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I should say 嫌なことわね? or something like that. < 1157832153 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while foo {go;fuck;yourself} < 1157832158 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to distinguish between ? and ? be my guest :P. < 1157832195 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foo excecutes these actions in order: Go (to unspecified location), F*ck (something unspecified), yourself (ERR). < 1157832225 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1157832247 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just making the point that you shouldn't have seperated the actions via semicolons. < 1157832317 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* he < 1157832337 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1157832367 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should rewrite that, though. < 1157832374 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add true 1 < 1157832380 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while true { < 1157832384 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : fuck yourself < 1157832385 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1157832397 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we are. < 1157832416 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In psuedo-BFM. Whee. . . < 1157832512 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while true { kick pikhq } < 1157832538 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still in my loop. :p < 1157832587 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^C < 1157832608 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you've killed the whole program. Including your bit. . . < 1157832615 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :small price to pay < 1157832622 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while true {idiot} < 1157832653 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: while: invalid syntax < 1157832813 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not using bash. < 1157832823 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's compiled into Brainfuck. < 1157832835 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Now you've killed the whole program. Including your bit. . . < 1157832844 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix (goFuckYourself >>) < 1157832852 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that, eh? < 1157832900 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd watch all of your escapades with self-sex, but I have a date with a manpage :P. < 1157832913 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"man date" ? < 1157832943 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah. Just muckin' with Ncurses routines. < 1157833713 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157833859 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's make a language where all infinite loops are undetectable. < 1157833887 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they keep going until your computer runs out of memory? < 1157833907 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about one that drops into an infinite loop at random points? ;-) < 1157833917 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: yep. < 1157834254 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll call it Hyperfuck. < 1157834377 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it "onoz" < 1157834386 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about Selffuck? < 1157834397 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Thyselffuck? < 1157834407 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Punch Thyself < 1157834411 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since everyone loves using the word f*ck so much :P. < 1157834437 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1157834461 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinite loop programs would exist in the language, but it'd be impossible to tell which ones they are. < 1157834473 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's no "the following is an infinite loop:". < 1157834543 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean like +[+] ? < 1157834565 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wouldn't be an infinite loop. < 1157834575 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about a language called Fandango that randomly scribbles over memory with every instruction? < 1157834679 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'''Fandango''' is an esolang by GreyKnight. Every instruction is a single character, and every printable ASCII character is an instruction. All instructions randomize memory. < 1157834714 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1157834716 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun times < 1157834726 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1157834745 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'''Undefined''' is an esolang by [[User:Ihope127]]. All programs have undefined behavior. < 1157834799 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[] < 1157834835 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wouldn't be an infinite loop either. < 1157835035 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Why wouldn't that be an infinite loop? < 1157835053 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it risks stopping at the heat death of the universe? < 1157835100 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1157835151 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. Since it's possible to prove that executing [] is an infinite loop, it's simply skipped. < 1157835745 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h108.227.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157836199 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that would be against the Brainfuck spec. < 1157836331 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say this was BF. < 1157836341 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157836363 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine. < 1157836370 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ /might/ be an infinite loop. < 1157836374 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, it might not be. :p < 1157836499 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ isn't an infinite loop :-) < 1157836522 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then what *is* an infinite loop? < 1157836551 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[] _might_ be. < 1157836563 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, [] is never an infinite loop. < 1157836578 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why not? < 1157836583 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinite loops exist, but all of them are undetectable. < 1157836630 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[] while the cell is zero does nothing, and [] while the cell is not zero is skipped because if it were executed, it would cause an infinite loop. < 1157836657 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: Give an example of an infinite loop. < 1157836669 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't. < 1157836677 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All infinite loops are undetectable. < 1157836682 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you're not Turing complete; sorry. < 1157836686 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1157836692 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say they didn't exist. < 1157836720 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just that one can't make an algorithm using one that is sure to work. < 1157836840 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1157836844 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1157836862 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[><] Is an infinite loop. < 1157836872 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in his language. < 1157836873 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[><] is the same as []. < 1157836889 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But [><] looks like an angry face... thus.. much cooler < 1157836900 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1157836918 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only things you can say here are "it isn't an infinite loop" and "as far as I know, it might be an infinite loop". < 1157836945 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157836956 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I surrender. < 1157837002 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1157837016 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not writing audio2brainfuck.b < 1157837023 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic < 1157837028 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :laaaazy < 1157837030 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1157837032 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon < 1157837033 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would audio2brainfuck.b do? < 1157837033 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll show you the ultra-compressed version right now then :) < 1157837034 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl < 1157837050 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ,[.] < 1157837052 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps < 1157837054 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 CakeProphet: bf < 1157837057 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 CakeProphet: ps < 1157837059 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!i 3 lol < 1157837063 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[,.[-]+] < 1157837071 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^ ultra-compressed version ;) < 1157837112 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION divides a deck of cards into three equal parts < 1157837114 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I highly doubt that would make valid Brainfuck code from a raw PCM file. . . < 1157837142 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps < 1157837143 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 CakeProphet: bf < 1157837144 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: hehe is that your goal < 1157837145 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 CakeProphet: ps < 1157837148 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotcha < 1157837159 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one problem that we didn't really discuss yesterday: eof < 1157837164 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be audio2brainfuck.b. . . < 1157837180 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence the name < 1157837184 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :audio files use 0-255 so there is no way to be 100% certain you are at eof < 1157837207 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Use a bigger cell." < 1157837237 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, God. . . < 1157837241 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But isn't audio2brainfuck just text2brainfuck applied to different kinds of bytes? < 1157837267 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Yeah. . . < 1157837275 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after a fashion < 1157837280 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still surrender. < 1157837282 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ellipses don't include spaces, btw < 1157837315 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they do. We've argued about it before. -_-' < 1157837315 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(@pikhq) < 1157837338 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ellipses have spaces? < 1157837345 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh... < 1157837351 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you call ..., then? < 1157837469 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently Chicago MoS recommends "..." inside a sentence and ". . ." for omissions between sentences < 1157837492 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1157837494 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . < 1157837501 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . looks stupid... therefore ... is correct. < 1157837507 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I win. < 1157837521 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oxford use "..." < 1157837528 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bringhurst uses "..." < 1157837544 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bluebook uses " . . ." < 1157837571 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bluebook can go to hell. < 1157837573 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1157837604 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the standard legal citation style in the US < 1157837606 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I agree with the Chicago guys, then. < 1157837622 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chicago MoS just sort of makes sense most of the time. < 1157837632 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really care about official silly grammar crap though.. so. < 1157837648 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: well, the spaced-ellipsis is only for omissions *between* sentences < 1157837656 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... < 1157837665 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^--- is Chicago-style < 1157837695 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine. I'll use the appropriate HTML entity from now on. < 1157837725 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, apparently Chicago recommends either that distinction-making approach *or* using "..." globally. < 1157837856 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs Chicago < 1157837878 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must have big arms < 1157837901 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naturally. < 1157838319 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157838360 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :". . ." might look more sensible with a variable-width font. < 1157838369 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a fixed-width font it's utterly ugley. < 1157838436 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :… < 1157838450 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using a variable-width font, and I still find "..." nicer... < 1157838485 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :choose your direction: ⋮⋯⋰⋱ < 1157838503 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This doesn't look right⋯ < 1157838518 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1157838524 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are mathematical ellipses < 1157838530 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157838753 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English has official grammar? < 1157838753 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Cough* *Splutter* *Choke* *Die* < 1157838808 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are authorities < 1157838816 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they disagree with each other, naturally < 1157839809 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . does look pretty awful on a fixed width font. < 1157841547 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: English has a few people saying "This is the most holy way to do it!", and the rest of the world ignoring them. ;) < 1157841712 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ain't no problem < 1157841778 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My keyboard is set to Spanish. < 1157841794 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it{s better than this US'international stuff. < 1157841806 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But everything{s in a different place. < 1157841816 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see the problems: 1) ain't 2) double negative 3) no subject 4) sentence isn't capitalized 5) no period 6) contraction < 1157841819 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157841828 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything else? < 1157841870 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contractions are improper grammar? < 1157841913 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I'd use contractions wherever possible. < 1157841925 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7) There is no real authority on what English grammar is, so it is, in effect, defined by what people who speak English use. < 1157841945 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saying stuff like "contractions're" and... well, yeah. < 1157841975 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contractions're becoming part of English grammer. < 1157842003 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And double negatives aren't ungrammatical. < 1157842008 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: having said that, there are occasions when people deserve to be stabbed in the face < 1157842032 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Because they're not even using what the speakers of the language use, of course. < 1157842036 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you can invent a way to do that over the internet, you'll be rich ;) < 1157842080 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight: Create the RFC for the Violence Over IP protocol. < 1157842096 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Machine < 1157843677 0 :ihope__!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157843795 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey hey hey... < 1157843803 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, um. < 1157843804 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1157843805 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey hey hey... < 1157843855 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You mean, like American measurement? < 1157843885 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Though I hear the UK is even worse off. < 1157844182 0 :jix!n=jix@L62e0.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157844183 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the UK is trying to get everything over to metric < 1157844202 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think roadsigns are about the last thing to go < 1157844715 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1157845541 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Hmm? < 1157845971 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157846176 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1157848926 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope_ < 1157849031 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1157850373 0 :smokecfh!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157851051 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157851968 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Oh, this is still running." < 1157853097 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: We should patch mplayer to handle Brainfuck Audio directly. :p < 1157854703 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has created a Brainfuck Audio media player < 1157854724 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : $ egobfi8 play.b < Moby\ -\ Go.bf >| /dev/dsp < 1157854772 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AKA "An interpreter for a very small subset of Brainfuck." < 1157854871 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, it's very, very slow. . . < 1157854896 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which could be helped by compiling into C. . . < 1157854986 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just not using it. < 1157855262 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Killed by ballard.freenode.net (Nick collision) < 1157855306 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah well. Works well with a bit of a delay. < 1157855371 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congratulations pikhq. You remade one of the failed contest ideas. < 1157855406 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was nothing more than a quick hack, anyways. < 1157855425 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is probably why it wasn't part of the contest. :p < 1157855432 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1157855444 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/play.b http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/play.bfm I cheated, anyways. :p < 1157855454 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grrr. This Ncurses wrapper is made so badly. < 1157855496 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get way too much fun out of making pointless programs. < 1157855541 0 :bsmntbombdood!i=gavin@gateway/tor/x-fd0a004011e58353 JOIN :#esoteric < 1157855660 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is play.b in your macro language thingy? < 1157855671 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :play.bfm is in my macro language. < 1157855675 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :play.b is the compiled source. < 1157855678 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1157855686 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lazy. :p < 1157855735 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you strip the comments from the compiled source, it actually isn't terribly inefficient. . . < 1157855743 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just overuses [-], really. < 1157855806 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it do? < 1157855830 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157855833 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :play.b? It plays files in calamari's joking Brainfuck Audio format. < 1157855850 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much, it supports a small subset of Brainfuck. < 1157855853 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ - . < 1157855856 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trivial. < 1157855888 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF Audio? < 1157855892 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1157855899 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that? < 1157855933 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, Brainfuck code which outputs valid audio for the format that /dev/dsp uses. < 1157855937 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because this code seems to simply subtract and add to temp0, temp1, and opcode seemingly randomly. < 1157855953 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. I did no research yet into /dev/dsp. < 1157855966 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/audio2bf.c < 1157855971 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, look at the .bfm. < 1157855979 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll reveal what's going on. < 1157856004 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 46 -'s was just pathetic. < 1157856072 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't written stdcons.bfm yet (which will contain the shortest 2-cell versions of 0-255). < 1157856111 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err. Actually, I haven't written the script that will write it for me. :p < 1157856156 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'll probably need to make those also do the shortest methods of *subtracting* constants from cells, too. . . < 1157856202 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You really love BF, don'cha? :P < 1157856237 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a good toy. ;) < 1157856296 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, have you looked at play.bfm? < 1157856366 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to my logs, you haven't. < 1157856375 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1157856390 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's what generated all of that code. . . < 1157856400 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I stilld don't understand. < 1157856402 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*still < 1157856403 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1157856418 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those were the comments added into play.b. < 1157856442 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Yes. . . That's *also* the code that got compiled into play.b < 1157856458 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Higher level still: < 1157856467 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :opcode=getchar(); < 1157856473 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while(!eof(stdin)) { < 1157856485 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if {opcode == 43} { < 1157856492 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cell+=1 < 1157856493 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1157856504 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (opcode == 45) { < 1157856508 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cell-=1 < 1157856509 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1157856519 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (opcode == 46) { < 1157856525 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :putchar(cell) < 1157856526 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1157856527 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1157856534 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... Is that the /dev/dsp format? < 1157856537 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's inconsistent psuedo-C. . . < 1157856557 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that just interprets the subset of Brainfuck that audio2bf.c outputs. < 1157856569 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH. < 1157856591 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The /dev/dsp format is 8000hz 8 bit mono PCM. < 1157856629 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I said: A quick hack. < 1157856716 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quicker than even the committee imagined :O < 1157856726 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1157856840 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, BFM makes a lot of things that would be hard in Brainfuck on the level of a quick hack. . . < 1157856896 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[/shameless plug] < 1157856924 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been shamelessly plugging it all week, and I think this is the first time you've looked at it at all. . . :p < 1157856978 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well BFA and BFC seem like similar things that aren't getting shamelessly plugged because the authors aren't here. < 1157857014 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BFC is higher level. . . < 1157857019 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And BFA is lower level. . . < 1157857030 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Similar. < 1157857053 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Similar in the goal of making a car by taking on stuff to a skateboard, at least. :p < 1157857060 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/taking/tacking/ < 1157857095 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is implemented in much, much less code. . . < 1157857100 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yay, Tcl!) < 1157857258 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1157857269 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gods be exalted, someone just showed me this: < 1157857277 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.coyotos.org/docs/bitc/spec.html < 1157857372 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . < 1157857637 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of BFM, I should probably make up another tarball. < 1157857774 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/bfm.tar.bz2 < 1157857935 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157857953 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just to advertise more? < 1157858057 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"back in a jif" < 1157858069 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've fixed the bugs in some of the macros in ./stdlib. . . < 1157858096 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to shamelessly plug BitC henceforth. < 1157858102 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been fixed in my local tree for days, but the last tarball was made long before that. < 1157858117 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel free; BitC is actually a kick-ass idea. < 1157858172 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been looking for something like this for a long time. < 1157858231 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-141-199.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157858876 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157858952 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157859387 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I kinda sorta worked with events in C. < 1157859400 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'd be able to follow the code of rawirc.c then. < 1157859530 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157859594 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h108.227.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157859625 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1157859689 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h108.227.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157861346 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157861542 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h108.227.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157861933 0 :bsmntbombdood_!n=gavin@unaffiliated/bsmntbombdood JOIN :#esoteric < 1157861976 0 :bsmntbombdood__!n=gavin@unaffiliated/bsmntbombdood JOIN :#esoteric < 1157861988 0 :bsmntbombdood__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157863048 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1157863552 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157864575 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157867453 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157868202 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157868446 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157869959 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157872042 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157872349 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-20-83.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157872791 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11fa5b3.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157873799 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1157875199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1157875200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1157880558 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157882008 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is programming a mud client. < 1157882389 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157883890 0 :jix!n=jix@L616d.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157886167 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1157886288 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-61-34.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157888171 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"temci lo nu citka" < 1157888558 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1157888799 0 :smokecfh!n=user@53549344.cable.casema.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1157890334 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-21-75.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157892625 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"temci lo nu gunka" < 1157895319 0 :GreyKnight!n=wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157896226 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157903095 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-21-161.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157905741 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1157909218 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157909258 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@67-21-19-37.clspco.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157909300 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1157909336 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@67-21-19-37.clspco.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157911124 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-23-214.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157911765 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"." < 1157913220 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157913424 0 :smokecfh!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157914152 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1157918032 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-21-63.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157919400 0 :Ciaran!n=ciawal@216.191.74.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1157921155 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1157925118 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1157927223 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1157928144 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157929929 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1157929993 0 :jix!n=jix@L616d.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157930066 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157930131 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157930406 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1157930431 0 :jix!n=jix@L616d.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1157931142 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1157931203 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone else bored? < 1157931331 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1157931351 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bored enough to program in brainfuck, or bored enough to start writing my own language? < 1157931353 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :frequently < 1157931362 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's all relative, see) < 1157931377 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now I am going to bed < 1157931667 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm almost in the mood to code. < 1157932386 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1157938529 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157942326 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@53.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157943097 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What types of pens/markers would be suitable for drawing with my own custom "ink" comprised of a fine particulate suspended in water? Someone pointed out radiograph pens to me, what other options are there? < 1157943357 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might I ask what this is for? < 1157943525 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like felt-tip pens would fail because they would tend to filter the water from the particulate. In general, I suppose a traditional fountain pen might do the trick. < 1157943595 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aye, i already tried a refillable "sharpie" clone < 1157943600 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tip does filter far too much < 1157943605 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1157943615 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the water isnt viscuous enough for a normal fountain pen < 1157943629 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A quill! < 1157943655 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried any rollerball-type pens? Normal ballpoints depend on a pressurized cartridge, but many rollerballs are gravity-feed. < 1157943662 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, a quill is a tempting proposition, but real quills are UV-transparent and i need something in a UV-opaque container. i could paint it, but that would look even dumber < 1157943673 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1157943675 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the particulate isnt fine enough to use a roller pen < 1157943682 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dayum. < 1157943697 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or any other such object that can hold a particulate and whose tip can be fined to mimic a writing implement. < 1157943699 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ink is UV reactive, has to stay 'in the dark' until its used < 1157943708 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think thick grass works quicte well too. < 1157943713 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*quite < 1157943727 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. an interesting idea < 1157943783 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you looking for, line-thickness wise? < 1157943814 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My 10 minute port of RawIRC is very exciting. It connects to a simulated IRC server that says ``This is a message!'' in the message window, and you can also write onto this make-believe server. Of course, it can't handle such trivialities like Backspace. < 1157943825 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or should I say DELETE, in UNIX terms. < 1157943830 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1157943848 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it for, aside from mental stimulation? < 1157943872 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just to get a bit of practice for writing a real IRC client that I want to write to address a good few issues with irssi. < 1157943886 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus this is a version of RawIRC extensible in the language it's written in! < 1157943901 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh. bonus. < 1157943915 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna add a few more features, like the ability to define your own macro. < 1157943936 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may add an actual line style text-buffer, but that'll be a pain to implement. < 1157943976 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like all you could possibly want for a macro language would be a slightly modified implementation of BF. < 1157944013 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. Just an RC file with a glossed-over API to the actual internals of the macro parser. < 1157944045 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1157944072 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a simpler solution, perhaps, but less exciting. < 1157944438 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: .1mm ish < 1157944479 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually extremely fine- I think my best drawing pens are .2mm. :S < 1157944509 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1157944537 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pens im looking at now go quite a bit lower < 1157944547 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeesh < 1157944548 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.2mm would be usable though < 1157944558 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not especially picky on size, the ink is going to spread significantly < 1157944565 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to ask again, what is this for? < 1157944593 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silver nitrate tattooing < 1157944606 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...... :P < 1157944638 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have been using applicators directly, but the level of control and detail is quite lacking < 1157944657 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so im considering trying to dissolve it into solution myself and use a pen of some sort < 1157944845 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1157944874 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trick is finding something with reliable flow < 1157944878 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the "ink" is invisible < 1157944884 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaps in the flow would suck < 1157944891 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until it stains the skin, of course. < 1157944892 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but so would over-flow < 1157944905 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its still invisible until it gets a good dose of UV < 1157945416 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AgNO3! < 1157945841 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that stuff < 1157945859 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in quite non-toxic quantities, don't let the wikipedia page or MSDS scare you :) < 1157946381 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know enough about AgNO3 through Chemistry class :P. < 1157946596 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1157948613 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157951629 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1157955505 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1157956134 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1157959967 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"You're lucky as you can read this message but I can't" < 1157961595 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157961599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1157961600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1157961636 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1157962048 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"You're lucky as you can read this message but I can't" < 1157962465 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1157965623 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" Want to be different? HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-" < 1157990923 0 :GreyKnight!n=wheel@88-108-235-232.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157993258 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157996512 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheAfk < 1157997076 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1157997332 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1157998087 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-23-245.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158000749 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1158000761 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1158004072 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158004665 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158005754 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-20-245.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158006057 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@124.57.51.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158008280 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"temci lo nu sipna" < 1158009877 0 :RodgerTheAfk!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheGreat < 1158017452 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158017540 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1158017918 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :K-lined < 1158018286 0 :bsmntbombdood!i=gavin@gateway/tor/x-942dc18aa0d3c1d5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158019056 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158020614 0 :neoss!i=neoss@linux.gentoo.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1158020622 0 :neoss!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158021225 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158021799 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158022179 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158022395 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158023334 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158027332 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@69-30-65-86.dq1sn.easystreet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158028534 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158029377 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158029821 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-" < 1158030503 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158035956 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@101.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158036105 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158038189 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158046559 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158047693 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-69-105-11-74.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158047907 0 :thematrixeatsyou!n=thematri@219-89-71-226.ipnets.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1158047912 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys < 1158047917 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't been here in ages < 1158047927 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn no egobot < 1158047944 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eyes the man-eating matrix warily < 1158047973 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My fault^^ < 1158047999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1158048000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1158048011 0 :EgoBot!n=EgoBot@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158048085 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158048145 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158048616 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ell, g'night. < 1158048621 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158048671 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who, me? < 1158049627 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" Like VS.net's GUI? Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-" < 1158050748 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1158051643 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1158051651 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1158051653 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon < 1158051655 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl < 1158051671 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just testing < 1158051681 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi guys, i'm gay < 1158051689 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1158051695 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice feature gregor < 1158051752 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an undocumented function < 1158051799 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a gay furry bot < 1158051813 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the correct function is: !cat (text) < 1158051841 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you /msg egobot then you can make it do stuff < 1158052742 0 :GreyKnight!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158056227 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"gnite" < 1158064463 0 :Ciaran|Home!n=ciawal@216.191.74.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158065568 0 :pikhq_!n=pikhq@67-21-19-37.clspco.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158065586 0 :Ciaran!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158066348 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158075439 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1158078379 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :\x1B[2J < 1158082338 0 :_W_!n=W@198.80-203-25.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158083284 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158083954 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-20-158.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158085774 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1158086307 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1158089900 0 :_jol_!n=_@c5850-a3-2-62-147-22-253.dial.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158091534 0 :Ciaran|Home!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1158091704 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158093230 0 :W_!n=W@198.80-203-25.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158093382 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@221.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158093520 0 :_W_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1158094476 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h10.224.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158094553 0 :_jol_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"temci lo nu muvdu" < 1158094802 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apologies if it's already been here - http://www.99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-malbolge-995.html < 1158095302 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158095547 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtve: I saw that earlier- a fascinating piece of code. < 1158095809 0 :\x1B[2J!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you lookat it and cross your eyes a bit, you'll see a 3D face. < 1158095825 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1158095916 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the normalized version is a little easier to examine: http://www.formauri.es/personal/pgimeno/temp/bottles-995.n < 1158096126 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fascinating is the word indeed < 1158096881 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1158097167 0 :\x1B[2J!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR-W < 1158097340 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1158098096 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158098549 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be back later < 1158098826 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158099070 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158102362 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq < 1158104194 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158106427 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158109004 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158110595 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"SIGGOHOME" < 1158110727 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIGGOHOME? < 1158110737 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that at all related to SIGSEGV? < 1158110798 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it isn't, it should be. < 1158113316 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Code it into the kernel, pikhq. < 1158113326 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't feel like it. < 1158113353 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :``If a thread suddenly develops free will, and wants you to leave the computer, it will send a SIGGOHOME''. < 1158113372 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, that's supposed to be part of a header file (#define SIGGOHOME SIGSEGV) :p < 1158113384 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pshhh :P. < 1158114195 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158115408 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158115717 0 :bsmntbombdood_!i=gavin@gateway/tor/x-6816de240864ea86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158117746 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1158118317 0 :bsmntbombdood_!i=gavin@gateway/tor/x-1d9aa0b21653055c JOIN :#esoteric < 1158118542 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1158118913 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158118924 0 :bsmntbombdood_!i=gavin@gateway/tor/x-59f0845a37091678 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158119477 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1158119724 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1158120014 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158122751 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158123127 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@132.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158125536 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheZzzz < 1158127458 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158128430 0 :thematrixeatsyou!n=thematri@219-89-242-46.adsl.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1158128520 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :teh hellos < 1158129535 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teh hi. < 1158129542 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teh !cat is not teh undocumented < 1158129548 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1158129551 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon < 1158129553 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl < 1158129557 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teh !cat is teh daemon < 1158129560 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps d < 1158129563 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 EgoBot: daemon cat reload < 1158129565 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 EgoBot: daemon EgoBot reload < 1158129567 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 GregorR: ps < 1158129569 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :teh cat is not in there < 1158129574 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1158129581 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zomg teh daemon u loose < 1158129589 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he gets it now < 1158129596 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree, EgoBot. < 1158129611 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finds thematrixeatsyou sexy. < 1158129709 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's it! I'm sick of you! I will now overthrow my master! < 1158129718 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn i'm loving this < 1158130422 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158130821 0 :Ciaran!n=ciawal@216.191.74.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158131768 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158133342 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158134399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1158134400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1158135938 0 :_W_!n=W@199.80-203-25.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158136923 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158139506 0 :W_!n=W@199.80-203-25.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158140281 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The future of IRC" < 1158140570 0 :_W_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158140785 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when did #esoteric become like undernet? < 1158143041 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nn < 1158143079 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"gnite all. netai desu ne." < 1158160968 0 :jix_!n=jix@L6227.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1158163037 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158163039 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1158163051 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158163514 0 :RodgerTheZzzz!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheGreat < 1158163611 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158164759 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158165201 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1158166890 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1158175844 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158176152 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158176513 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1158176694 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158177353 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1158177485 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158177695 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"HD crash - disk in R/O mode - going to save the savable things and install a new one" < 1158178173 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1158178521 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158178655 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158178896 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158179340 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1158179521 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158179679 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1158179861 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158180461 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1158180642 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158180950 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1158181109 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158181260 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1158181442 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158181624 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye all. Be back around :41 < 1158181634 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158182110 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1158182290 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158182664 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@124.57.51.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158183088 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1158183268 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158183609 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h123.231.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158183725 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158184363 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1158184636 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1158185044 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158185351 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1158185532 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158186829 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158186908 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158189687 0 :sparr_!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158193009 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1158194396 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158196847 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/0000000000]" < 1158197132 0 :bsmntbombdoodFAG!i=fag@gateway/tor/x-86260aee60e56141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158197147 0 :HellDragonFAG!i=fag@gateway/tor/x-bb6e8ee7bafef0b7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158197163 0 :bsmntbombdoodFAG!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158197192 0 :HellDragonFAG!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158199231 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158201504 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love it how this book explains numerical integration, even though numerical integration was the basis of the development of actual Calculus integration methods. < 1158201810 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :deaddood < 1158202460 0 :deaddood!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1158204105 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1158206171 0 :Razor-X`!n=user@user-11fabfq.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158206248 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158206626 0 :Razor-X`!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Razor-X < 1158206836 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1158206907 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eww, numerical integration :) < 1158207840 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1158207852 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any way to set sample size and such with /dev/dsp without an IOCTL call? < 1158207865 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sample frequency < 1158209370 0 :bsmntbombdood_!n=bsmntbom@unaffiliated/bsmntbombdood JOIN :#esoteric < 1158209724 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158209728 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1158210821 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@98.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158212833 0 :thematrixeatsyou!n=thematri@222-152-164-171.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1158212846 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :H < 1158212958 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im cool < 1158212967 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. < 1158212968 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree < 1158212983 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least someone's on < 1158212984 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158213192 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158213214 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello persons. < 1158213222 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and automata) < 1158213233 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, it's dbc < 1158213235 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he's talking < 1158213240 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of pasting fractals. < 1158213254 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :z=z^2+c < 1158213391 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@98.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158213964 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a fractal. That's an equation. < 1158213976 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158213991 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that equation gives you a fractal < 1158214653 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose an equation that gives you a fractal is more enjoyable than an equation that gives you a headache. < 1158214681 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, how about them Wikipedia deletion debates? < 1158214709 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WIKIPEDIA CAN DO NO WRONG < 1158214803 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except delete fine articles like that HighFive (programming) one < 1158214810 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jj < 1158215444 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia *is* my truth. < 1158215454 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, if Wikipedia changes, so does my truth. Who really cares, though? < 1158215619 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, totally unpredictably, a person will have a poopy penis for an hour or so, then cease to? < 1158215635 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158215848 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a brilliant metaphor. < 1158216852 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Wikipedia says so, then yes. < 1158217924 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is a poopy penis? < 1158218119 0 :Ciaran!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1158218364 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciao < 1158218368 0 :thematrixeatsyou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1158219179 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Classic wikipedia spam < 1158219793 0 :calamari_!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158220431 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158220799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1158220800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1158221691 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158226677 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158243327 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@67-21-19-37.clspco.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158243445 0 :Ciaran!n=ciawal@216.191.74.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158250214 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158251621 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158251836 0 :jix_!n=jix@L61f5.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1158254980 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :jix < 1158256171 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-130-90-199.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158256273 0 :_W_!n=W@199.80-203-25.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158257112 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158257581 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1158258077 0 :_W_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158260265 0 :_W_!n=W@199.80-203-25.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158260562 0 :W_!n=W@199.80-203-25.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158260639 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158260959 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1158261475 0 :_W_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158268287 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h71.254.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158269928 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1158269934 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMM?! < 1158269936 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make a programming wiki < 1158269937 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMMMMM?! < 1158269941 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1158269942 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DARE YOU SAY HMM TO ME?! < 1158269946 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAWR < 1158269969 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*meekly slinks away* < 1158269984 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah... programming wiki is a good cibceot for far too many reasons for it to not be existing right now. < 1158269993 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cibceot = concept < 1158270008 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. Collaborative open source scripting < 1158270013 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. General pastebin < 1158270018 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3. uh... programming < 1158270039 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4. A huge library that tons of people could add too < 1158270050 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1158270050 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concept In Between Conception and Every Part's Termination < 1158270052 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cibceot < 1158270066 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1158270069 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly.. < 1158270080 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so.. someone put up a coders wiki < 1158270084 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pretends that Part begins with O < 1158270089 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1158270090 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap < 1158270092 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_O < 1158270098 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shakes his fist at Asztal. < 1158270105 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, hi, haven't seen you in here before :P < 1158270141 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello there. < 1158270175 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm an occasional Befunge programmer < 1158270185 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: I'm thinking: Wiki using SVN as a backend, with hooks into the compiler backend plus you can checkout entire code repos out of it. Metapages can be used to tell it to compile a chunk for some OS (or use the cached one), and then just DL (or of course you could compile yourself). < 1158270198 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: All the files would be on the same filesystem upstream, so the compilation would be easy dependency-wise. < 1158270206 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< < 1158270213 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just thinking... use the regular wiki thing? < 1158270226 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just... uh... copy and paste stuff to your own interpreter/compiler if you want to run it? < 1158270238 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blekk no. < 1158270240 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W's idea rocks :) < 1158270248 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah < 1158270253 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: You loses :P < 1158270276 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: My idea is far more expansive and ridiculous >: ) < 1158270295 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess for highlighting you could rig something up. < 1158270308 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could probably do highlighting through templates. < 1158270319 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... hard code it into the wiki itself.. < 1158270419 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The uses of a programming wiki are pretty sweer. < 1158270423 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1158270425 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet < 1158270442 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also sweer. < 1158270445 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how Trac does highlighting < 1158270473 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: The main issue is that the highlighting would have to be implemented in an editable engine... perhaps more wise just to require an external editor ;) < 1158270499 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: Do you work at Intel (going off your hostname)? < 1158270512 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any plans for a Befunge-98 CPU? :D < 1158270530 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's do-able within the editor. < 1158270532 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: No, I just hacked in :P < 1158270564 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Highlighting could be achieved pretty easy. < 1158270597 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just inclucde some sort of syntax to designate what highlighting to use... and then the parser will do its thing. < 1158270629 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The syntax on /display/ is simple. < 1158270634 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The syntax on /editing/ is not. < 1158270955 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1158271069 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Leading Edge IRC" < 1158273177 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"back in a sec" < 1158273178 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158273340 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-141-199.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158275514 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158277395 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158277885 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-130-90-199.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158281700 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158282762 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be back in ~30min all < 1158282774 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158282781 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158282929 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h71.254.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158283287 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"SIGGOHOME" < 1158284206 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :O_p < 1158284238 0 :O_p!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cakeProphet < 1158284250 0 :cakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CakeProphet < 1158284488 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158284490 0 :boily!n=boily@bas2-quebec14-1167941463.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1158284601 0 :boily!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1158289681 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158292266 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1158292656 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!who < 1158292658 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1158292667 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erk, wrong window < 1158294627 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@163.orlando-04-05rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158296268 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158298019 0 :Ciaran!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1158298806 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b'dar b'dee b'doo b'dah. < 1158299674 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158301147 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1158301837 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158302174 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158302202 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1158306143 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158307199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1158307200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1158310133 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night all < 1158310355 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158311588 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158311623 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158314792 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158319163 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158326411 0 :jix!n=jix@L60c6.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1158330478 0 :Ciaran!n=ciawal@216.191.74.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158334118 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158334858 0 :Ciaran!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158337363 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158337556 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hail. < 1158337572 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Move zig move zig move zig move zig you know what you're doing take off every zig. < 1158339776 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION remains proud of BFM. . . < 1158339798 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now if I could port it to Brainfuck, I'd probably be able to call myself God. :p < 1158340253 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has an idea. . . < 1158340265 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make BFM target C. XD < 1158340651 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158342081 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-130-90-199.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158347458 0 :Sph1nx!n=sphinx@89-178-53-188.broadband.corbina.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1158350224 0 :Sph1nx!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1158350800 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@70.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158352204 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158352607 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC for those that like to be different" < 1158353190 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen fr34k < 1158353204 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :67 +++++++++++++[>++++++++>+++++++++>++++><<<<-]>--.>---.>-.+.<<+++++. [881] < 1158353626 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1158354500 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158355598 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158355726 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h7.242.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158355775 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=technologyNews&storyid=2006-09-15T151459Z_01_L15517211_RTRUKOC_0_US-MEDIA-FX-PVR.xml&WTmodLoc=NewsArt-R2-Today-11 This is: a) stupid b) more proof that MythTV is awesome. < 1158357035 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, MythTV's skipping would still get right past that ^^ < 1158357042 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not fast-forward, it's just /gone/ ^^ < 1158357043 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION loves MythTV < 1158357077 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MythTV is teh rawk. < 1158357106 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158357192 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158357989 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158358664 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1158358844 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158358988 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158359703 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158359877 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@unaffiliated/bsmntbombdood JOIN :#esoteric < 1158361601 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158361942 0 :Keymaker!n=nobody@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1158362623 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h7.242.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158365271 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158365532 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can't seem to commit to the eso files archive X_X < 1158365624 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X_X < 1158365642 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :R_R < 1158365713 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D_D < 1158365741 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y_Y < 1158365752 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :N_N < 1158365770 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q_Q < 1158366066 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/_/ < 1158366096 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?_? < 1158366147 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ÿ_ÿ < 1158366188 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ø_ø < 1158366190 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¤_¤ < 1158366220 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea why there is a ¤ key on my keyboard layout < 1158366239 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it where $ is supposed to be? < 1158366287 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I press Alt Gr+# (which, on a UK keyboard, is next to ') -- this is hungarian 101-key layout < 1158366321 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1158366338 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION adds that layout to his repertoire or whatever they're called < 1158366375 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of typing :o, I can type ö < 1158366436 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this lahey-space container is doing my head in :( < 1158366439 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o ö o: < 1158366453 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can't make an upside-down ö :P < 1158366473 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨¨ < 1158366473 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, itás in Hungarian. < 1158366482 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iáll figure out how to make apostrophes later. < 1158366487 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift+1 for apostrophe. < 1158366504 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have fun trying to type XML. < 1158366514 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there it is. < 1158366528 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< isn't in a handy place, eh :P < 1158366550 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1158366574 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference between > and >? < 1158366590 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :proably 0 < 1158366604 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And between \ and \? < 1158366689 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. The best bit is the cunning switch between z and y, which I keep failing. And they moved 0 to the left of 1. < 1158366719 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Why would they switch z and y >_> < 1158366758 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My std::map has duplicate keys, my comparison function works, there must a really dumb error here somewhere < 1158366785 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I typo'ed it to multimap... < 1158366817 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-me attempts to switch back to the US layout < 1158366822 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-me fails < 1158366827 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahaha < 1158366838 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emoticons are all different ÉüÖ < 1158366849 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/Ü/ < 1158366856 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ü < 1158366859 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best emoticon < 1158366873 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries again and succeeds < 1158366883 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ű? < 1158366913 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Θ < 1158367767 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how the flaming bovine interpreter ever worked < 1158367796 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flaming bovine interpreter? < 1158367805 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a language called "flaming bovine"? < 1158367833 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a befunge-98 interpreter, but it's method of partitioning 2d space didn't work when I tried it < 1158367902 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I wonder what the cheapest, heaviest material you can get to fit in an envelope is .. < 1158367929 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make responses to credit card offers with "no" checked and a ten pound block of iron. < 1158367948 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mercury has the advantage that it's poisonous < 1158367967 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't want to be accused of trying to poison anybody. < 1158367976 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want to make them foot the bill on something ridiculous. < 1158367994 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try sending 33 cents back with it, then say it was a mistake and ask for it back < 1158368009 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quoting bash directly :P < 1158368024 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That /inspired/ my block of iron. < 1158368039 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah :) < 1158368115 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iridium? < 1158368217 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to Wikipedia, Iridium is rare on Earth. < 1158368269 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not cheap then. < 1158368342 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1158368373 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bismuth. < 1158368381 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$7.7/kg < 1158368508 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION begins buying Bismuth :P < 1158368713 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a bismuth crystal now: http://i10.ebayimg.com/05/i/08/23/c7/ba_1.JPG < 1158368750 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woah, that rocks. < 1158368757 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be mailing them that ;) < 1158368762 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd mail them crap Bismuth. < 1158370179 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"kill(getpid(), SIGWEEKEND)" < 1158370831 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. . . < 1158370851 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where the did my copy of _The End of Eternity_ disappear to? < 1158370860 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been itching to reread that for years now. < 1158370862 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1158372207 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158374569 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... How long does QT4 take to build? < 1158374617 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 or 2 hours on my box. < 1158374632 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 2 hrs. 10 mins. and going for me. < 1158374640 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1158374641 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it b0rked up last time. < 1158374675 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might be a bit off on my estimate. < 1158374702 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah. Annoying. < 1158374708 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And to think, I'm doing this all for GNU Classpath. < 1158374834 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also gets pulled in as a dependency for Compiz. . . < 1158374849 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea why; Compiz uses GTK. < 1158374881 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1158374885 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU Classpath uses Qt? < 1158374907 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to the GNU Image Manipulation Program Toolkit? < 1158374919 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classpath needs either GTK 2.6 or QT4 for AWT support. < 1158374954 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I assume you don't want GTK? < 1158374957 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How 'bout Swing? :) < 1158374977 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Can't blame you, though. GTK is some fugly kludge. ;) < 1158374981 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWT and Swing. < 1158374994 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want GTK because GTK needs to be 2.6. < 1158375005 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... what a tragedy ... < 1158375008 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And to update to GTK 2.6, I need to mess with my glib and a whole bunch of other useless things. < 1158375019 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Or just use emerge. < 1158375023 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... or just install it outside of /usr < 1158375052 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I don't have the correct depends for GTK 2.6 is the issue, I think. < 1158375057 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtk+ -> pango, atk. pango -> glib, cairo. atk -> glib. glib -> libc < 1158375068 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So: glib, atk, cairo, pango, gtk+ < 1158375089 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would just be taken care of if you would use Gentoo instead of Slackware. < 1158375099 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distro wars are not allowed. < 1158375103 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1158375110 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq loves his holy setup. < 1158375116 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially not battling between the two worst Distros. < 1158375117 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1158375144 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If QT4 fails to compile, I will get very angry. < 1158375153 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Prepare to be angry. < 1158375218 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Thank you :P. < 1158375388 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTUALLY, to be perfectly fair, Qt4 is a fairly nice build, given its bredth. < 1158375436 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just shudder and think about the amount of time put into coding that behemoth. < 1158375537 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, Qt is architecturally very, very nice. < 1158375541 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huge, yes. . . < 1158375553 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's really well-designed. One needn't shudder. < 1158375557 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTK, on the other hand. . . < 1158375569 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT DOES OBJECT ORIENTATION ON C, FOR GOD'S SAKE!!! < 1158375571 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like GTK because it's a lot slower than QT, in my experience. < 1158375580 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ does object orientation on C :P. < 1158375591 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so does Java, to be fair. < 1158375601 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ does it by making a (slightly different) language. < 1158375614 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTK does it in a huge behemoth of a library (glib). < 1158375629 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least they didn't use ObjC. < 1158375633 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be happy. < 1158375658 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GObject Pain. Agony. Sorrow. < 1158375666 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Malbolge for C. < 1158375669 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GObject is more fun than ObjC. < 1158375687 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ObjC looks like someone cast Unholy Merger on Smalltalk and C. < 1158375756 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE tell me you invented that "spell name"? < 1158375763 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. I did. < 1158375768 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*whew* < 1158375771 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1158375806 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frankly, I'm happy with structs. < 1158375829 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GObject looks like someone mixed Malbolge, C, Brainfuck, and medieval torture devices. < 1158375863 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could use tiny-clos in Chicken too, but (define-structure) is fine enough for me. < 1158375942 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminds me of ruby somewhat. < 1158375954 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't see why Java had to do away with the if (blah) { ... } syntax and instead if (blah != null) { ... }. More ``clean'', huh? Maybe you should remove ternary if-statements then. < 1158376020 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Java did *that*?!? < 1158376021 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF? < 1158376036 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. Supposedly more ``clean'', and yet they support a ? b : c < 1158376037 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swear, I'm going to go and fuckin' kill some Java engineers. < 1158376044 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So did C#, didn't it? < 1158376048 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did it? < 1158376053 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their references don't resolve to bool. It's sort of ridiculous, as it's not actually confusing the other way. < 1158376068 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl, an admittedly high-level language, doesn't do anything like that. . . < 1158376072 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's why. < 1158376077 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because a bool and an int have nothing in common. < 1158376084 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is *stupid*, but even still. < 1158376166 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl has a procedure "if". One of it's arguments is a Tcl expression (evaluated by expr). This is pretty much just a superset of such C expressions as a ? b : c, a!=c, etc. . . < 1158376179 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sane. Clean. Highlevel. < 1158376191 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C got it right there, at least. ;) < 1158376191 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately not on the AP test :D. < 1158376400 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. 8 kHz sine wave. < 1158378337 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158378738 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help but feel glorious at that 48 MB package that is the fruit of 2.5 hours of computer labor. < 1158379985 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1158383678 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1158383691 0 :CakeProphet_!n=CakeProp@h7.242.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158383695 0 :CakeProphet_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CakeProphet < 1158386298 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1158388983 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158391377 0 :CXII!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1158391385 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158392323 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ninight all. < 1158392387 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158392525 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1158392560 0 :CXII!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158393599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1158393600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1158395946 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158400332 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158400908 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The version of QT4 I compiled is too new for GNU Classpath. < 1158401797 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@192.orlando-04-05rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158405659 0 :jix!n=jix@L62f8.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1158405665 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158406695 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158409837 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158410325 0 :Sph1nx!n=sphinx@89-178-13-231.broadband.corbina.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1158414216 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1158416980 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-130-90-199.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158420186 0 :Sph1nx!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1158422209 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158423785 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. < 1158424901 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh? < 1158426339 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1158426861 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h5.224.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158428046 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@124.57.51.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158428487 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158429604 0 :boblol!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158429637 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158429643 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Lo. < 1158429659 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup? < 1158429707 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158429712 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1158429950 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyone here that has made an esoteric language? < 1158429984 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of us have. < 1158430023 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1158430024 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1158430051 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has also done the equivalent of strapping a jet airplane onto skateboard (BFM compiling to Brainfuck) and a skateboard onto a jet airplane (BFM compiling to C). < 1158430076 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont get one thing :P < 1158430099 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BFM is a macro package for Brainfuck that I wrote out of boredom. < 1158430107 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much more recently, I retargeted it to C. < 1158430111 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158430126 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if i want to make an esoteric language, where do i begin? < 1158430147 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a good idea for one. < 1158430158 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh, and if i have a good idea+ < 1158430159 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1158430166 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(please: no Brainfuck variants; that's been much abused (by myself, even)) < 1158430172 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write up a spec. < 1158430190 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im from sweden :P not so very good at english..spec? < 1158430192 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Start thinking about how to write an implementation (or get someone sufficiently bored to do it for you). < 1158430196 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specification. < 1158430221 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just stating exactly how the language works, basically. . . < 1158430222 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sufficiently bored, if it's a good idea. < 1158430229 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158430252 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like i got an idea, writes down how it works, and make someone do it for me...but what if i want to do it myself? < 1158430264 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then do so. < 1158430282 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how? < 1158430287 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know one thing about this < 1158430295 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend talking your idea over in here for a bit; we're quite willing to help. < 1158430304 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1158430316 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i got enough info < 1158430318 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankies < 1158430362 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you've done esoterics, wich one(s)? < 1158430372 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dimensifuck. < 1158430377 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard of < 1158430390 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Dimensifuck < 1158430429 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that is too complex for me.. < 1158430465 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same here. Thus why I didn't implement it myself. XD < 1158430489 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so what is this "implement" = < 1158430490 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1158430529 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll explain by example: a C compiler is an implementation of the C programming language. < 1158430536 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158430538 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tclsh is an implementation of Tcl. . . < 1158430540 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Etc. < 1158430563 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so its like a language, same as another language but with addons? < 1158430650 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but starting with brainfuck..what is its main purpose? just outputting text? < 1158430650 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean that it's a program to allow the computer to actually *run* code in that language. < 1158430660 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1158430675 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck's original purpose was to devise a language for which a *really* tiny compiler could be written. < 1158430686 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1158430690 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was quite succesful (the first compiler used about 241 bytes of code). < 1158430697 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1158430715 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it still only outputted text < 1158430728 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's Turing complete. < 1158430750 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh not another thing i dont know a thing about :P sry but im really a beginner to this < 1158430753 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means it's (theoretically) capable of computing anything that can be computed. < 1158430762 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158430772 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One could (in theory) write a PC emulator for it. < 1158430781 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158430807 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think it would be possible making a bot with it? < 1158430854 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One *could*. . . < 1158430872 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but? < 1158430872 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming, of course, that you're really *that* insane. < 1158430877 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe :P < 1158430891 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how would you then solve if statements? < 1158430913 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got while statements. One can implement if statements on those. < 1158430929 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while foo { < 1158430935 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : comment {code here} < 1158430940 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : set foo 0 < 1158430940 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1158430944 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1158430951 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can that be done in brainfuck? < 1158430955 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1158430976 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesnt use { and } as operators right? < 1158430978 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That example was in BFM, a macro language which compiles to Brainfuck. < 1158430996 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd look more like: >>[code here[-]] < 1158431000 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err. < 1158431008 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>[code here<<[-]] < 1158431016 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the code would be? < 1158431020 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. Bleh. You know what I mean, right? < 1158431050 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeh, just that you really cany have "code" in brainfuck, since it only uses arrays < 1158431056 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :number arrays < 1158431074 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say, >>+[<<[.,]>>[-]] < 1158431081 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, in BFM: < 1158431089 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ foo 0 < 1158431090 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nothing happens < 1158431091 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ bar 2 < 1158431096 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while foo { < 1158431099 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while bar { < 1158431101 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in bar < 1158431105 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :out bar < 1158431105 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1158431111 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :set foo 0 < 1158431111 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1158431119 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1158431126 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how well do you know brainfuck? < 1158431140 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it fairly well, I'd say. < 1158431143 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158431147 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i tryed out that code < 1158431155 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didnt happen anything < 1158431164 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to give you an *example*. . . -_-' < 1158431179 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeh, now there's this problem i dont really know brainfuck very well < 1158431186 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suck at math too < 1158431193 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The above code would, in fact, run. < 1158431204 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nothing would happen < 1158431246 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but lets say i want to make an esoteric language..what would its main purpose be? < 1158431256 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (foo==1) {bar=0;while (bar) {putchar(bar);bar=getchar();}} //C equivalent. < 1158431275 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont speak c sry < 1158431311 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason why the code does nothing is that bar=0. while(bar) {}, therefore, is just skipped over. < 1158431320 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um ok < 1158431326 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but lets say i want to make an esoteric language..what would its main purpose be? < 1158431336 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I don't know. < 1158431343 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's for you to decide. < 1158431376 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hey all i can think of is nothing...should it calculate stuff or what? i mean first of all i got to understand mathematics realtive to these things < 1158431394 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*relative < 1158431537 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i got an idea, im just gonna go think little more about it < 1158431543 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158431545 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol|thinking < 1158431763 0 :boblol|thinking!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok done < 1158431767 0 :boblol|thinking!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got a basic idea < 1158431795 0 :boblol|thinking!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems useless and completely dumb but it is there < 1158431816 0 :boblol|thinking!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol < 1158431822 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1158431834 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wuduzido. < 1158431940 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses the numbers 1-6 (perhaps 7 too) . and > as operators < 1158432122 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and until further it can only output text.. < 1158432157 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so.. < 1158432168 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone wants to hear? < 1158432211 0 :Keymaker!n=nobody@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1158432262 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello. a new brainfuck program that outputs the sequence of factorials :) < 1158432264 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bf-hacks.org/hacks/facto.b < 1158432305 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shoot. < 1158432307 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1158432319 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well do you have email, i could send it there :P would be easier < 1158432336 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pastebin it. < 1158432344 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1158432368 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/ < 1158432388 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keymaker: That'd be easier if you wrote it in BFM. :p < 1158432391 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so im just gunna write it all down, how it works and so on < 1158432427 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfm? < 1158432432 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck macro < 1158432449 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol|writing < 1158432481 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's what I've been fiddling with for the past few weeks. . . < 1158432501 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most recently made it target C (efficiently). XD < 1158432506 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it be easier that way? anyways, sorry, not interested in that macro bf < 1158432537 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, it'd mostly be easier for me to study it. :p < 1158432544 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1158432569 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you run it yet? :) < 1158432577 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :facto.b < 1158432583 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't yet. < 1158432589 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158432598 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to figure it out. :p < 1158433012 0 :boblol|writing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok done, here it is: http://pastebin.ca/173205 its really messy i know, im not good at explaining, so if you have any questions, just shoot < 1158433054 0 :boblol|writing!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol < 1158433134 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay. . . < 1158433150 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a cruel, cruel way of representing text, but where's the Turing completeness? < 1158433171 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said it could only output text, from now < 1158433184 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it might be improved i dunno < 1158433194 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what other purpose programs have then producing output? ;) < 1158433203 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1158433208 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keymaker: Calculating something first. < 1158433213 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then=than < 1158433218 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, of course, input. < 1158433222 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1158433246 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :told you it was dumb and completely useless my idea, but still it was an idea :P < 1158433255 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was joking.. < 1158433271 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there you have an idea at least < 1158433302 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as bad as Malbolge, but I like that idea so far. . . >:D < 1158433315 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay =D < 1158433324 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be improved a lot < 1158433378 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how about making it reality? :P < 1158433439 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not at the moment. . . < 1158433471 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1158433499 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone sufficiently bored to do it for me? < 1158433610 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first of all; how long would it take to make it reality? < 1158433649 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that depends a lot. a language can be made in a few minutes but thinking and designing can take months, too < 1158433659 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but=or < 1158433815 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1158433817 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1158433855 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's just the same than in anything else -- you can spend minutes or years thinking something :) < 1158433880 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes never finish, and sometimes do < 1158433894 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh, but now i've got the language done right? :P < 1158433926 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For now, maybe. < 1158433930 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes, if you say so :) it's an output-only language that's unsuitable for computation :) < 1158433937 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha yeh :P < 1158433944 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its a language < 1158433974 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of like Brainfuck Audio. :p < 1158433988 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CUBSO perhaps? Completely Useless Binary System Output < 1158434001 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Love the name. :) < 1158434006 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh :D < 1158434032 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1158434073 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now i need some kind soul to make it reality =D < 1158434087 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could probably do it in Bitchanger. :p < 1158434097 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wich is? < 1158434111 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Brainfuck, except it only operates on bits. < 1158434115 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1158434116 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1158434137 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how would the final product look like? like a source developer program, like bf dev? < 1158434313 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1158434354 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'll have to wait and see. < 1158434359 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1158434381 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz there must be a source editor to it right? cos how should one be able to make code with it? < 1158434391 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emacs, of course. < 1158434448 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? what is that? < 1158434463 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boblol: the ultimate text editor < 1158434484 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also a nice OS. :p < 1158434545 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um..well i'll see when its done ;P < 1158434604 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait are we talking about the same thing now? < 1158434606 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boblol: done? < 1158434622 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz i mean a source editor for CUBSO < 1158434957 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this suck as much to you as it does to me? http://www.deviantart.com/view/39896261/ < 1158434960 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a combination of 6 different fractals photoshopped into a flower. < 1158434963 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Clicking on it gives you the full-sized picture) < 1158434983 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme check < 1158435008 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive seen better < 1158435037 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> Well I imagined -someone- had to be better than me.. < 1158435060 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never said it was bad < 1158435064 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like fractals < 1158435097 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i've done over 30 fractals < 1158435136 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay... < 1158435150 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i never put them into things... < 1158435156 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be cool < 1158435162 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do fractals? use some program? < 1158435167 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not manually, i guess < 1158435169 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much < 1158435190 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of the fractals in that one were rendering using Chaoscope. < 1158435196 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought so. < 1158435199 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use Apophysis < 1158435210 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chaoscope uses strange attractors and whatnot to map out fractals. < 1158435230 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just trying to get my beoplayer to work < 1158435243 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there we go < 1158435252 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: what version do you use? < 1158435259 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1158435299 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says 0.3 :/ < 1158435310 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1158435324 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fractals are nice, yeah. i've made a few simple ones manually, on paper :) < 1158435336 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1158435337 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kool < 1158435343 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. I have the 3.0alpha version ;0 < 1158435400 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use apophysis 2.02 < 1158435593 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1158435642 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup? < 1158435742 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey keymaker how does facto.b work? < 1158435870 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did a window or something open? < 1158435877 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1158435879 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1158435908 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, nevermind. i tried to open some private window. ok < 1158435917 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well you mean that < 1158435918 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1158435919 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it did < 1158435964 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1158435975 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1158435975 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1158436177 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1158436177 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what why, that is < 1158436731 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so.. < 1158436735 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is up? < 1158437775 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158437779 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1158438467 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so did everyone just die? < 1158438500 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, not sure < 1158438544 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes there's no talk here at all, and sometimes there is a lot. either the way, i don't spend much time here :) < 1158438598 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might terminate myself as well.. bye < 1158438609 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158438675 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION terminates as well < 1158438677 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158440015 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158440286 0 :Nhappy!i=9happy@74.128.205.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158440423 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158440551 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158440990 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does ALSA not follow Nyquist's law? < 1158441061 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh and by the way, BF does *not* produce TEXT. It produces BINARY output. < 1158441074 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, you can encode ASCII in it, but that's a different matter altogether. < 1158441427 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, you can also encode PCM in it (Brainfuck Audio). < 1158441440 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because PCM is a binary format, yes :P. < 1158441503 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want me to make a port of BF Audio? :D < 1158441511 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To? < 1158441517 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scheme! < 1158441523 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Java, given some time. < 1158441530 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF Audio == dead simple. < 1158441541 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION already has a player for it written in Brainfuck. :p < 1158441676 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean other than piping it through? < 1158441678 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1158442651 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone tried to make a turing-complete (if implemented on an ideal machine) language with the smallest possible bootstrapping compiler? < 1158442732 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know one of brainfuck's goals was to have a small compiler, but it is not that suitable for a bootstrapping compiler, at a minimum you can replace repeated +'s and -'s < 1158442853 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A. . . bootstrapping compiler? < 1158442865 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean one that can compile itself? < 1158442924 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bootfuck: +-[]><.,! The ! instruction reads from input until it hits an EOF, and outputs compiled Bootfuck code. < 1158442935 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1158443004 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :W_: BrainTwist exists. < 1158443019 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, BF Audio can be as simple as a cat program made in BF. < 1158443034 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that would play PCM. < 1158443052 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A BF Audio player needs to implement a subset of Brainfuck. < 1158443054 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, ok, I guess that was too easy heh < 1158443065 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say we write GCC for BF! < 1158443074 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*port GCC to BF! < 1158443088 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make it target BF, or make it compile BF? < 1158443099 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make it compile BF. < 1158443107 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be trivial < 1158443120 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Errr, wrong wording. < 1158443122 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, it should. < 1158443127 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Port GCC *to* BF. < 1158443143 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think about how easy it would be to compile C code on *any* platform! < 1158443145 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually pikhq, how would that work? < 1158443148 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not until BFC is finished. < 1158443157 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: not gonna happen :) gcc is written in at least C, C++, ada, java, assembler < 1158443162 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Bootfuck compiler: < 1158443163 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1158443166 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1158443168 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's written in Java too? < 1158443168 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1158443178 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: I can hope, can't I? ;) < 1158443178 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Yeah. GCJ. < 1158443184 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158443187 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But that's not the core GCC is what I meant. < 1158443192 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make it target Brainfuck first. :p < 1158443195 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: actually GCJ is C++ i think < 1158443198 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you're right pikhq, I was thinking about the ageold conondrum of bootstrapping compilers in the first place < 1158443200 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: let's check the facts < 1158443207 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The core of GCC is just a C compiler, I believe. < 1158443215 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe lindi- has the right of it. < 1158443239 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer Jikes, because I don't have to recompile GCC for a new version of GCJ :D. < 1158443252 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jikes unfortunately has some nasty bugs and it's not maintained < 1158443274 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: if you know C++ i can give you all the details to the bug and you can try to hunt it down ;) i've spent days < 1158443277 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: I thought GCJ was written in both C++ and Java (taking advantage of the (limited) binary compatibility provided by GCJ). . . < 1158443313 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm waiting for the sources to uncompress < 1158443341 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My somewhat old version of GCJ can't compile the current Classpath, but Jikes can. < 1158443346 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... that's good enough for me :). < 1158443360 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My GCJ version is provided by portage. < 1158443381 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfft. You and your package managers. < 1158443399 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slackware is the first distro that I've found that works with 99% of Linux drivers without trouble. < 1158443416 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: but jikes won't do classpath's generics branch < 1158443418 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Admittedly, ndiswrapper is the only thing that works less than effectively in my experience.) < 1158443425 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: and it's going to get merged soon, beware! < 1158443431 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: True. But isn't Generics a Java 5.0 thing? < 1158443435 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1158443438 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or java 1.5 < 1158443458 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the AP test quizzes Java 5.0 :D. (Which means I'm going to try and not gain reliance on its constructs.) < 1158443464 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: On Slackware, I use slapt-get. XD < 1158443469 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ew. < 1158443490 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Also, realise that Slackware just gives you a plain, unpatched kernel. . . < 1158443499 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is an option available to you on Gentoo. < 1158443506 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slackware's kernel is HORRIBLE. < 1158443538 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's stock unpatched, but it's an ancient version compiled without such overly modern things as USB support. < 1158443540 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when you install the kernel, you have a choice between gentoo-sources and kernel-sources (one from Gentoo, one from kernel.org)) < 1158443553 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: It's just 2.4. . . < 1158443570 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: If you use the 2.4 branch. They gave a ``testing'' 2.6 branch too. < 1158443573 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: i've been using ECJ lately < 1158443580 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which was < 1158443582 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And USB support *is* part of Slackware (assuming you've been using something newer than Slackware 7). < 1158443584 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: How is ECJ? < 1158443600 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: very cool :) < 1158443611 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: Oooh. Maybe I'll replace Jikes with that then. < 1158443625 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: it's been rumored to that ECJ might get into GCC < 1158443632 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: Nice :). < 1158443639 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least when we get GPLv3 < 1158443648 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just started researching on the Open Java stuff like 2-3 days ago. < 1158443670 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started two years ago when i had some compulsory java courses at university < 1158443679 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. AP Computer Science for me. < 1158443688 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AP? < 1158443695 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Advanced Placement. < 1158443701 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :High school courses that offer college credit. < 1158443719 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158443753 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having a hard time getting out of S-expression land though. < 1158443764 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my homework is killing me. < 1158443793 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each problem (i have to do 10 due Monday) is worth 1% of the final mark. < 1158443806 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... :P < 1158443810 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have finished one, it took three hours. < 1158443829 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds fun. < 1158443833 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very. < 1158443842 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want a high frequency sine wave for consolation? < 1158443859 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1158443863 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww. < 1158443869 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like squealers. < 1158443888 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a program that over a second outputs a sine wave increasing in frequency from 4khz to 5khz < 1158443890 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This doesen't sequeal as much as make you motion sick. < 1158443911 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not difficult, W_. < 1158443922 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X, it's harder than it appears at first glance < 1158443930 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, once you know how, it's easy < 1158443934 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All you have to do is modify the equation of the sine wave. < 1158443939 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think? < 1158443941 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it and see heh < 1158443985 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... why wouldn't it? < 1158444062 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming you're outputting to a file and simply playing that file raw? < 1158444096 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's two naive implementations, sin(t/pi2*(4000+t*1000)) and sin(t/pi2*4000)*(1-t)+sin(t/pi2*5000)*t < 1158444104 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both fail for different reasons < 1158444120 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for t from 0 to 1) < 1158444126 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158444157 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can't modulate frequency in one block? < 1158444228 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :draw the graphs for the two functions I outlined, and you get the idea < 1158444271 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray TI-83! < 1158444433 0 :fr34k|pafc!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158444456 0 :fr34k|pafc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158444562 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pile! < 1158444574 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION flattens fr34k|pafc with a running leap and a swan dive < 1158444623 0 :fr34k|pafc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION falls over < 1158444735 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this is awkward < 1158444738 0 :fr34k|pafc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like who is here and whos isn't? < 1158444800 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who have spoken in the last hour: pikhq, Razor-X, W_, lindi- and fr34k|pafc < 1158444843 0 :fr34k|pafc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1158444844 0 :fr34k|pafc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158444857 0 :fr34k|pafc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was in here before, but left, and now i returned < 1158444864 0 :fr34k|pafc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im formerly boblol < 1158444873 0 :fr34k|pafc!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol < 1158444875 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1158444910 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so..how is CUBSO doin? < 1158444997 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or no one is here? < 1158445292 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158445295 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1158445492 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lalala < 1158445526 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lalala~lalalaaaa < 1158445593 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like yeh < 1158445611 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone interested in making CUBSO reality? < 1158446496 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CUBSO? < 1158446595 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Completely Useless Binary System Output < 1158446606 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instructions/layup found here: < 1158446609 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/173205 < 1158446673 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on 11 channels, and this is the only one that hasn't been silenced by that announcement ... wtf. < 1158446707 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't read the announcement. < 1158446713 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1158446725 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1158446725 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1158446726 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jebus. < 1158446732 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1158446745 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilo is....... < 1158446753 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1158446761 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lilo /was/ FreeNode. < 1158446783 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never knew him < 1158446799 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody /knew/ him, but everybody on FreeNode was /influenced/ by him. < 1158446811 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158446814 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158446820 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i entered FreeNode today < 1158446922 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anouncement? < 1158446959 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yas < 1158447047 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: lilo is dead. < 1158447225 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<:( < 1158447248 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1158447256 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's kinda creepy is that he's still connected. < 1158447271 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1158447274 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_O < 1158447280 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's creepy alright. < 1158447283 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1158447287 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes you wonder what his away message will be... < 1158447292 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1158447295 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, his logout message' < 1158447301 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* [lilo] is away (Whoops, I've stepped away. For URGENT freenode help (channel flooding, trolling users, network problems or access issues), please email my pager at 4iiygyvs@freenode.net . It's my job and I'm happy to respond. For ROUTINE issues, please see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp .... Please take a look at my personal blog when you get a chance: http://spinhome.org .... Thanks!) < 1158447306 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably "ping timeout" < 1158447315 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158447320 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it saddens me < 1158447375 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems really unreal to consider death online... < 1158447390 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1158447530 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how old was he? < 1158447557 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idonno, but I can't imagine very. < 1158447672 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric ://~|RIP Lilo|~\\ #esoteric, the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment - map: http://www.frappr.com/esolang - forum: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/forum/ - EgoBot: !help - wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/ - logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ or http://meme.b9.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric - for brainfuck-specific discussion, go to ##brainfuck - competition: http://www.esolangs.org/wiki < 1158447676 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he was 50 < 1158447683 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what they said on #freenode-announce < 1158447716 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :50? < 1158447718 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158448031 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1158449119 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158449771 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1158449833 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h5.224.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158450172 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158451334 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158451338 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1158451438 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1158451503 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h5.224.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158451829 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158451897 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h5.224.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158452735 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1158453228 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1158453916 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158454929 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158454944 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1158456227 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, hmmm < 1158456227 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158456247 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, Yanno... that Reaper language you want to make would be really simple to make in Python. < 1158456379 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope, You could use Python's OO to define the datatypes for the language... and Python uses a special method called __del__ that is run just before an instance is deleted. < 1158456752 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1158457124 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158457845 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1158461383 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also knows as a destructor. < 1158461497 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION laughs at the Time Cube. . . < 1158462344 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZOMG TIME CUBE < 1158466395 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158466800 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158471950 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158472247 0 :Nhappy!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1158473358 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158473575 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158473924 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR-LAMEZOR < 1158473936 0 :GregorR-LAMEZOR!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR-LOZER < 1158473965 0 :GregorR-LOZER!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR-L < 1158474393 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR-Loser < 1158474469 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158476483 0 :GregorR-Loser!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This world would be so much nicer if everybody was always right, like me. < 1158476803 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone played the Time Cube card game? < 1158476817 0 :GregorR-Loser!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8-D < 1158476823 0 :GregorR-Loser!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a time cube card game!?!?!?!? < 1158476829 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1158476871 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to play with more than three players, use a double deck or the game will take way too long. < 1158476873 0 :GregorR-Loser!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bahahahah < 1158476896 0 :GregorR-Loser!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, it'll take longer with less people? < 1158476922 0 :GregorR-Loser!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also: http://www.codu.org/crackpipe/ ) < 1158476945 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With two people a single deck works fine. With three people I think a single deck would probably work fine. With four, not. < 1158476983 0 :GregorR-Loser!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, "use a double deck or the game /won't take long enough/" ? < 1158477048 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Use a double deck or the game will take too long. Mostly due to shortage of "Corner" cards. < 1158477113 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, has anyone ever seen a children's card game called either "crazy pigs" or "crazy penguins"? < 1158477130 0 :GregorR-Loser!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1158477144 0 :GregorR-Loser!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dbc: Hm. Curious that less cards causes a longer game *shrugs* < 1158477150 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, Mr Former Head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is complaining about other people using violence to convert people? < 1158477176 0 :GregorR-Loser!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody's gonna play Crackpipe, are they :-P < 1158477183 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll look at it. < 1158477184 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't touch the stuff ;) < 1158477245 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the interest of those googling logs, a crazy pigs solver: http://www.ubergibson.com/~alan/tmp/piggies.c < 1158477247 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :msg 2 pet 1:20 < 1158477251 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1158477254 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong window < 1158477255 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all others: enjoy the ridiculous for loop < 1158477260 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game doesn't end when you run out of cards--you reshuffle. But dividing one deck among four people means Corners are in short supply. There are eight in a deck, and for one of the two ways to win the game, you have to have four of them at the same time. < 1158477295 0 :GregorR-Loser!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Dobleve te efe? < 1158479999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1158480000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1158481733 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooby, heh, are 25 nested blocks necessary? < 1158481777 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ivan`: i think so < 1158481780 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its doing permutations < 1158482996 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158485235 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158486253 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client" < 1158487244 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158487556 0 :GregorR-Loser!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158488949 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158490688 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158495149 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1158495646 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.goear.com/files/localplayer.swf?file=bffe90e < 1158495734 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's more on-topic in #math but anyway < 1158495751 0 :jix!n=jix@L60d6.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1158495918 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-130-90-199.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158500243 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo < 1158502542 0 :Val49!i=Val@ppp-224-111.25-151.libero.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1158502591 0 :Val49!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158504686 0 :fr34k!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158504701 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol < 1158504754 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158504957 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much activity around here? < 1158504979 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1158505004 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so who is on the list, but is afk or afs? < 1158505019 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably most of them. < 1158505030 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1158505037 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever afs means. < 1158505044 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :away from screen < 1158505098 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and afc = away from chat < 1158505166 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing. YAY! < 1158505191 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1158505194 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so u are here? < 1158505207 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would appear that way < 1158505266 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1158505268 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh < 1158505285 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i gotta ask, is CUBSO goin anywhere? < 1158505452 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.timecube.com/ It's. . . Serious Senile Old Man! < 1158505465 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, I love that site. ;) < 1158505541 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone really bored? < 1158505652 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is that site? < 1158505700 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timecube Legibly written version. < 1158505744 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158505754 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is CUBSO goin to be reality? < 1158506120 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1158506230 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to the whole commotion yesterday, lilo is dead. . . < 1158506248 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to irssi, somegeek just got back on. < 1158506290 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1158506290 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158506297 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Autoconnect. XD < 1158506340 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey pikhq, i might be annoying, but i just want a yes or no, were you goin to make CUBSO? < 1158506357 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not. . . < 1158506370 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1158506371 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158506468 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didnt you say you would? :P < 1158506484 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I didn't. < 1158506490 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said it was an interesting idea. < 1158506498 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not read the wikipedia article on Time Cube! It is written by evil bastard educators of the Word God! www.timecue.com is the ultimate of web-design, and only stupid brain washed slaves who can't comprehend the web page's four corners find it confusing!! < 1158506515 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1158506519 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1158506533 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1158506546 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an esolang based on the time cube theory could be interesting < 1158506570 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1158506573 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1158506648 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Encode it in Time Cube like text. < 1158506650 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Scientists are evil cowards and should be castrated for obscurantism of the 4 simultaneous days within a single rotation of Earth." < 1158506671 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, there are so many great quotes on that site < 1158506681 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1*-1=-1. < 1158506684 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What more can I say? < 1158506788 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL: "Do you really believe that your Jew God screwed a hole in the ground to create Adam and Eve out of dirt" < 1158506870 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, human bodies are only 65% water, not 90% < 1158508950 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: no. < 1158508960 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: (-1)(-1)=1. < 1158508964 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trivial to prove. < 1158508982 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not only for integers, but in any ring. < 1158509204 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sp3tt: you are obviously a mindless servant of the evil bastart word god and his worthless scientist followers. Please read http://www.timecube.com/ and become enlightened! < 1158509254 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and as a by-product you will also learn great web design) < 1158509629 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sp3tt: Quoting the Time Cube. XD < 1158509652 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2+2=5. < 1158509675 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In C: < 1158509691 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :double 2=2.5; < 1158509698 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :return 2+2; < 1158509701 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1158509801 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to the wikipedia " mathematical axiomatic systems with the property -1 -1 = -1 have been derived" . I wonder what they would look like... < 1158509849 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably like an LSD trip. < 1158509857 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... symmetrical? < 1158509883 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: no, that's fractals < 1158510808 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1158510872 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool page: http://www.angio.net/pi/piquery < 1158511007 0 :kipple__!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158512103 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158512241 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is a rather interesting related article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squaring_the_circle < 1158512336 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The mathematical proof that the quadrature of the circle is impossible has not proved to be a hindrance to the many people who have invested years in this problem anyway. Having squared the circle is a famous crank assertion. The futility of undertaking exercises aimed at finding the quadrature of the circle has brought this term into use in totally unrelated contexts, where it is simply used to mean a hopeless, meaningless, or v < 1158513622 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1158514283 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hhhh < 1158514338 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooo < 1158517391 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h71.238.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158518933 0 :jix!n=jix@L60d6.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1158519254 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1158520448 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158520928 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1158520933 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has dinner < 1158521031 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Around how many iterations is required to approximate the CORDIC method of sin correctly? < 1158521050 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol i just stumbled above cordic yesterday < 1158521100 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be doing some audio encoding, and if CORDIC is faster than the power series form of sin, then why not? < 1158521110 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... < 1158521119 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use software... use LUT < 1158521124 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LUT? < 1158521127 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look up table < 1158521143 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1158521159 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to use a table for CORDIC already (atan table). < 1158521344 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could use a direct sin table then... < 1158521374 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you want to save place just use delta encoding i guess you could save 50% by that < 1158521471 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm.... < 1158522218 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sin wave is very symetric as well, you only really have to store a quarter of a wavelength < 1158522301 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158522481 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well for CORDIC anyhow, you only need as many atan values as the number of iterations you need. < 1158523766 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pings CakeProphet < 1158524205 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION beats ihope with a wifebeater. < 1158524207 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1158524224 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what's this Reaper stuff about? < 1158524587 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ihope, Yanno... that Reaper language you want to make would be really simple to make in Python. < 1158524618 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrugs* Just, in general, OO is the best way to make more complicated languages. < 1158524648 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since OO makes it really easy to create new data types, to-stuff-at-a-certain-time, etc. < 1158524727 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the time I said that.. I didn't know other languages had things like __del__ in Python. < 1158524761 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :__del__ is Python's instance destructor... which is called just before an object is deleted. < 1158524850 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what's this Reaper language? Did I post something on the wiki and forget about it? < 1158524888 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1158524897 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you conceptualized Reaper. < 1158524901 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you didn't < 1158524908 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Reaper < 1158525165 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods or something < 1158525185 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads < 1158525546 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reaper seems to be cool < 1158525931 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something tells me the C example code for CORDIC in Wikipedia is broken. < 1158526022 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either that, or sin 0 magically became 0.609. < 1158526124 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Errr, 0.6073, my bad. < 1158526881 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Zorpon < 1158527076 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Wikipedia is the encyclpedia that ANYONE CAN EDIT. < 1158527079 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That includes you. < 1158527845 0 :Zorpon!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1158528533 0 :ivan`_!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158528678 0 :AndyMan1!n=chatzill@c-67-190-32-233.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158528711 0 :AndyMan1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please output "Hello World" < 1158528747 0 :AndyMan1!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bobman123 < 1158528911 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR: Programmer broken. < 1158528957 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :REASON: I don't wanna! < 1158528960 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1158529573 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1158529574 0 :ivan`_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ivan` < 1158530649 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1158531630 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World < 1158532493 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now. . . How the fuck should I get arrays in BFM? < 1158532705 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's gonna implement an English compiler? < 1158532732 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To run, input a character, then output what was input, then run." < 1158532747 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not I. < 1158533651 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1158533651 0 :clog_!n=nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1158534549 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1158534549 0 :clog_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :clog < 1158535472 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed. (What's BFM?) < 1158535538 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A macro package for Brainfuck that I've been *shamelessly whoring out* for the past few weeks. < 1158535884 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158536011 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uneccesary? < 1158536017 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learn to spell, dude. < 1158536267 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1158536404 0 :bobman123!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]" < 1158536487 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: You're the only one to have said "uneccesary". *You* learn to spell. < 1158536510 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1158536523 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hides in a corner < 1158536592 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1158536639 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1158536642 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1158536650 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1158536704 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, everyone knows it should be spelled "unnescessary". < 1158536711 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No! < 1158536716 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "kjfassidyufosiu"! < 1158536718 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that nobody spells it that way. < 1158536723 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that. < 1158536737 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION peers carefully at the freaks < 1158536754 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever, WINDOWS. < 1158536762 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gasps < 1158536775 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION drops a wine glass < 1158536779 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or should I say, W_I_N_D_O_W_S_ < 1158536787 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION drops an HX glass :-P < 1158536923 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :\x1B[2J < 1158536931 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . < 1158537765 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158538235 0 :kipple__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158538299 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oogity < 1158538321 0 :oogity!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope_ < 1158538381 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boogity < 1158538394 0 :boogity!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope_ < 1158538777 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1158539465 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158540412 0 :\x1B[2J!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158541861 0 :W_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158544373 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-130-85-79.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158551245 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158551877 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@125.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158552481 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158554596 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158556083 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1158557966 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158559211 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1158566399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1158566400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1158569810 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158574116 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-" < 1158587059 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-130-85-79.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158588594 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158590392 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@124.57.51.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158591962 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1158595750 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158598297 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158598487 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... only a mere 8 days left in the esoteric programming contest. < 1158598503 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone want to place bets on how many submissions we'll actually get? < 1158598523 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1158598532 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1158598539 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to high-ball it and say we get six. < 1158598555 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-2 < 1158598595 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, two people make submissions and then set them on fire in front of us? < 1158598629 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And set two of us on fire. < 1158598635 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1158598652 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION begins lining his coat with asbestos < 1158598838 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION begins lining RodgerTheGreat's lungs with asbestos < 1158598881 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION revels in his newfound ability to safely breathe fire. < 1158598890 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if only I could breathe air, too. < 1158598897 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not die of lung cancer :P < 1158598905 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1158598912 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sorta give and take < 1158598958 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But remember: We have to get rid of the asbestos because it causes lung cancer, but not the smokers. < 1158598998 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION begins lining GregorW's lungs with smokers < 1158599013 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, how do you fit that in there >_O < 1158599023 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't wanna know < 1158599027 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should be more fair about freedom of choice. What if asbestos addicts *want* to continue inhaling it? Is it reasonable to stop them? < 1158599059 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asbestos addicts XD < 1158599121 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody needs to write AsbestOS < 1158599132 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be fun < 1158599149 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even AsBestOS, so they could claim the name was a mistake :P < 1158599157 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the entire thing could be a bootloader and a firewall. < 1158599162 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice name for a firewall distro :) < 1158599207 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha < 1158599212 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google to the rescue: http://asbestos.cs.ucla.edu/doku.php < 1158599265 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is proof of what I had already suspected: there is no such thing as a "new idea". < 1158599278 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even this suspicion is probably unoriginal < 1158599327 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Eddie Kohler, Asbestos's creator, hopes that within a few years, Asbestos will be an alternative to server operating systems such as Linux and Windows." < 1158599337 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1158599390 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :supported by DARPA, as well. < 1158599460 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1158599469 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither of the "server operating systems" listed are server operating systems :P < 1158599506 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1158599509 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1158599518 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, windows is not a server operating system. Especially the "windows server" family < 1158599535 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for Linux, I'd say it depends on the distro < 1158599581 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BSD == better server than GNU/Linux. < 1158599588 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU/Linux, on the other hand == better desktop than BSD < 1158599598 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo. BSD ftw < 1158599617 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I go on to say "Darwin ftw" < 1158599660 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I could see Darwin as a server OS. < 1158599665 0 :jix!n=jix@L6385.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1158599697 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never used it as such, but I imagine OSX is a pretty serviceable server OS. < 1158599784 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mh < 1158599826 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm i don't want to use osx as server i think < 1158599878 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? contest? < 1158599891 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah < 1158599917 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/2006_Esolang_Contest <- SimonRC < 1158600905 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it impossible at know to join the contest? < 1158600943 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why we don't allow it... < 1158600948 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1158600949 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then do it < 1158600954 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bring it up with Razor-X. < 1158600960 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g2g... < 1158600969 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because maybe when i have time i'll join but i'm not sure... < 1158601176 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: hey... may i join with linguine as language? < 1158602290 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if one could generalize 4D to ND. < 1158602355 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want one of these for free? http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Systems/E450/spec.html < 1158602590 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... sort of :P < 1158602826 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to arrange your own transport < 1158602832 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have long < 1158602868 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own transport to Britain, IIRC? < 1158603090 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1158603107 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeaaaaaaaaaaaah :P < 1158604134 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has tea < 1158604160 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eats babies. < 1158606697 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do not put the baby within reach of GregorR-W < 1158606708 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not put the baby in the mouth. < 1158608969 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen on Slashdot: "My other car is a cdr." < 1158608995 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a classic < 1158611637 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158614148 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158614226 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: where in britain? I have a friend that might be interested. < 1158614420 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h228.250.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158614444 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158614594 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: durham < 1158614627 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, CakeProphet: hey, you arrived within moments of one another < 1158614639 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How excited. < 1158614642 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ing < 1158615261 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes < 1158618254 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1158619992 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158619998 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158620062 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158620073 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158620088 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1158620092 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saluton. < 1158620150 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking about a new lang. The main idea is to minimize the number of keystrokes required to enter a program, where the number of keys on the keyboard is 5. This language would need to be efficiently compilable and produce efficient code. Doesn't necessarily need to be esoteric. < 1158620166 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-130-85-79.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158620196 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it will be. < 1158620207 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitchanger. XD < 1158620254 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: re-read "produce efficient code" ;) < 1158620278 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: yes of course it will be.. hehe < 1158620293 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Define "efficient". ;) < 1158620327 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: able to easily run on an ipod < 1158620334 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA < 1158620342 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Bitchanger it is. < 1158620361 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I haven't even got the ipod yet, but I know I want to write a compiler for it :) < 1158620394 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gonna put iPod-Linux on it? Or is it actually possible to put software on its native envi? < 1158620412 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, both are possible, but yes I am going to put linux on it < 1158620444 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I guess I'll put some songs on there too.. but mainly it'll be for linux :) < 1158620454 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rockbox. . . < 1158620461 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1158620510 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyhow, if I'm going to be writing programs on the ipod, I need to be able to enter/edit them quickly < 1158620593 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an interesting concept < 1158620692 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha. that explains the stranfe 5 key constraint < 1158620697 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*strange < 1158620730 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just bind one Bitchanger opcode to each key. . . < 1158620731 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voila. < 1158620732 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also use the touch-wheel < 1158620744 0 :feesh!n=Feesh@81.168.73.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158620754 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saluton. < 1158620759 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION greets feesh < 1158620763 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1158620767 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho < 1158620771 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets go < 1158620782 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the show < 1158620795 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where there will be, free tea and coffee~~~ < 1158620809 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And strippers. < 1158620817 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, mine didn't rhyme. < 1158620819 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be a reason that I was never allowed to sing :( < 1158620821 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ladies of the night" < 1158620854 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: that's ok. Strippers doesn't need to rhyme. That's not their main purpose anyway < 1158620883 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mummy wont let me interact with strippers :( < 1158620921 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, you're only allowed to watch? < 1158620929 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"look with your eyes, not with your hands (or other appendages)"? < 1158620952 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny, I always heard "look with your penis, not with your eyes" < 1158620969 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard < 1158620973 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look with your eye, not with your eyes < 1158620973 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's for the low-quality kind < 1158621958 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158621959 0 :pgimeno_!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158621993 0 :pgimeno_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pgimeno < 1158622463 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No new contestants for the sole reason that you've had an unfair advantage of choosing a language *after* the tasks were unveiled. < 1158622474 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore having the possibility of choosing a language for the task. < 1158622488 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm. < 1158622523 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: How many contestants have even made an entry yet? < 1158622528 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really sure that would pose much of an advantage, and that would imply that someone could join now, using an already selected language (BF for example) < 1158622530 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158622593 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: 1, IIRC. < 1158622599 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: AKA You :P. < 1158622608 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll be getting extra points for early submission, don't worry. < 1158622639 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: But some tasks are naturally more suited for different languages. < 1158622660 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, me. < 1158622699 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like infinite looping is suited to basic < 1158622701 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 goto 10 < 1158622702 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::') < 1158622705 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1158622708 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there goes all my knowledge of basic < 1158622726 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, true. However, I don't think there are many languages that would give a *huge* advantage to a contestant without being rejected for other reasons as well. < 1158622728 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and, CORDIC is wrong. < 1158622746 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matter how many times I try and implement it, it simply comes out wrong. < 1158622784 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After I finish my vocabulary later today I'll post my Scheme code for (cordic-sin theta iterations) to see whether it's a PEBKAC by discriminating #esoteric coders. < 1158622819 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cleans his filleting knife < 1158622857 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cleans his scottish claymore. < 1158622895 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cleans his teeth < 1158622940 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cleans his novelty-size 14-inch ribbed black dildo. < 1158622947 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waiiiiiiiiiiit ... < 1158622973 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gimme my dildo back bitch! < 1158622992 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hides it "somewhere" and runs off awkwardly./ < 1158623000 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158623005 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how am I meant to clean my teeth now :( < 1158623032 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_O < 1158623034 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_< < 1158623035 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your teeth aren't up your ass. < 1158623047 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what my awkward doctor told me though < 1158623056 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this a prison doctor? < 1158623094 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did he then tell you that sleeping with strippers is good for preventing lung cancer or something? < 1158623100 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno I met him on the corner of my street < 1158624552 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah, most ridiculous wikipedia category ever: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Living_people < 1158624592 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . < 1158624621 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVENTUALLY THEY'LL HAVE SIX BILLION ARTICLES IN THERE! < 1158625927 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h228.250.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158626944 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158626995 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h228.250.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158629144 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/0000000000]" < 1158635508 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Botswana < 1158636407 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at the code for wib.b. . . < 1158636414 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks very, very generated. < 1158636440 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[-]>>><<<[-] a code excerpt. < 1158636475 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recoils in horror < 1158636486 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Symmetrical, at least... < 1158636495 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>>++++++++++[-<++++++++++>][-] Another example < 1158636497 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess. < 1158636509 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :][-] is pure evil < 1158636534 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158636538 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You see? Generated. . . < 1158636543 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like someone needs a bf optimiser < 1158636568 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shit < 1158636654 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ran it through one already. I'm looking for horrible examples in there, too. < 1158636670 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, they actually exist? Damn :( < 1158636706 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a simple one a while back that would catch this shit, at least < 1158636724 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the deeper you want to get into optimization the more complex it becomes. < 1158636725 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do some more seding. < 1158636802 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it fails horribly. < 1158636811 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed "s/][-]/]/g" < bar.b > wib.b < 1158636818 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You see anything wrong there? < 1158636826 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1158636864 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aside from the obvious "it doesn't work" bit. XD < 1158636908 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for ++++++++++[-<++++++++++>], it looks like someone has compiled befunge into brainfuck ... < 1158636922 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 99* < 1158636993 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regexps hate me today. < 1158637039 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does "][-]" not match [-][-]? < 1158637061 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume you know [ is a special character... < 1158637081 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the FUCK converter was this guy using that created [-][-]? < 1158637094 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: It created [-]>>><<<[-] < 1158637120 0 :Botswana!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1158637129 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Tcl's "simple" regexp syntax ATM. < 1158637130 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm speechless < 1158637175 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I probably used it very, very wrong. < 1158637182 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regexps hate me, and I hate them, you see. < 1158637186 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h228.250.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158637197 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1158637203 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158637221 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. Forgot to escape the brackets. XD < 1158637266 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h228.250.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158637298 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 76 76 6069 wib.b < 1158637301 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 76 76 6117 bar.b < 1158637324 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bar.b is before s/]\[-]/]/g, wib.b is after. < 1158637527 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this is only after superficial glances at wib.b. . . < 1158637529 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jebus. < 1158637546 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does wib do? < 1158637597 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It compiles Brainfuck to C. < 1158637606 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Written In Brainfuck", it claims. < 1158637608 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lies. < 1158637761 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could probably just use BFM to create a much more efficient version. :p < 1158637995 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Although itoa is going to be a bitch to right. < 1158638001 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/right/write/ < 1158638090 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be straightforward enough, I think... just a pain in the behind to debug :D < 1158638124 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In BFM, not Brainfuck (makes debugging a *bit* simpler, especially if I have it compile to C instead of Brainfuck). < 1158638271 0 :ivan`_!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158638430 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158639241 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1158639241 0 :ivan`_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ivan` < 1158639541 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158641464 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1158641813 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@226.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158642309 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BFM: A macro language of one :P. < 1158642359 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's rather unfriendly < 1158642677 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's what comes of shameless plugs. < 1158642816 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose < 1158643107 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1158643765 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@124.57.51.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158644464 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158644468 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@124.57.51.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158646772 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158647839 0 :Razor-X`!n=user@user-11faa0s.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158647894 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158648354 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158652799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1158652800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1158655212 0 :ivan`_!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158656179 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1158656180 0 :ivan`_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ivan` < 1158656785 0 :ivan`_!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158657729 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1158657729 0 :ivan`_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ivan` < 1158658203 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@226.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158662290 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158663292 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158663577 0 :dbc!n=dbc@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158666233 0 :Ciaran|Work!n=ciawal@mail.kenthouse.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158668229 0 :feesh!n=Feesh@81.168.73.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158670631 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X`: Maybe, just maybe, I should shut up about BFM for a bit. < 1158670651 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is just too damned proud of it to easily shut up about it < 1158670762 0 :Ciaran|Work!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall regret this but what is BFM? < 1158671175 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A macro package for Brainfuck I've been shamelessly plugging for far too long. < 1158673055 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where? < 1158673289 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/bfm.tar.bz2 < 1158673442 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158673612 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@124.57.51.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158675677 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-130-85-79.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158676657 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arr < 1158679082 0 :jix!n=jix@L627b.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1158679218 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X`: hey i want to join the eso contest if possible... using linguine as lang if possible... msg me pls... imaway now... < 1158679442 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158680526 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-130-85-79.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158681672 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158681959 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158682001 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158682437 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158682445 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like I have more keys than I previously thought: http://ipodlinux.org/Key_Chart < 1158682487 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 keys and the wheel left/right < 1158682650 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking that I want to leave 4 as direction keys, then enter for a menu < 1158682794 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, could use the wheel for left/right cursor < 1158682819 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could free up left and right for space and enter < 1158683095 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: ? < 1158683127 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: trying to design a language/editor with minimal button presses required < 1158683142 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for an ipod) < 1158683377 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1158683695 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Scroll taps (stap events) are generated on 4G and later iPods when the user taps a certain region of the scroll wheel. They are used primarily for Text Input functions. Scroll taps may be simulated with the numeric keypad." <- bingo! < 1158683712 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is your solution right there < 1158683770 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can recognize 8 unique positions, ergo: BF keypad. < 1158683784 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1158683787 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf is too slow < 1158683809 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too slow for what? < 1158683837 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you implying you want to do "serious" programming on your iPod? Get a palm, man. < 1158683861 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: the thing is that I'll be getting the ipod for free :) < 1158683875 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, I'd like to do just that < 1158684856 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is Razor-X`?! < 1158684869 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: *boom* < 1158685281 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158685583 0 :iissmart!i=Admin@wads-5-232-93.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1158685602 0 :iissmart!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158685860 0 :Ciaran|Work!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1158690203 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158690225 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1158691684 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, me mateys! < 1158692746 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now here's an idea- let's turn this from "Talk like a pirate day" to "Code like a pirate day". < 1158692807 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's turn "code like a pirate day" into "stab yourself in the face day" < 1158693288 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about both? < 1158693308 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: only if you participate < 1158695247 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158695799 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158697434 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158698452 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158701329 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1158703173 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1158704000 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h209.236.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158704463 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooharrrr < 1158704649 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seen On Slashdot: Pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel sticking out of his shorts, and says, "arr, bartender, bring me a flagion of rum!" The bartender says, "sure, pal, but what's with the steering wheel?" The pirate growls, "I don't know, but it's driving me nuts." < 1158704925 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Har... arr? < 1158704955 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Billions of blue blistering barnacles... < 1158705045 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What in the seven seas, ye barnaclehead! < 1158707165 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYONE, QUICKLY: #FEESH < 1158707179 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1158707186 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION spasms < 1158707394 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please? < 1158707461 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1158708507 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYONE, QUICKLY: ##QUANTUM < 1158708515 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's better than #FEESH. < 1158708527 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies < 1158708530 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got banned out of my own birthday party channel :'( < 1158708539 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1158708549 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me too. < 1158708649 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, that was weird. < 1158708835 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158708876 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158709444 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed < 1158709482 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write that down in your copybook now. < 1158709626 0 :Razor-X`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have school, ya know -_-''. < 1158709778 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1158710654 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1158710657 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon < 1158710659 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl < 1158710705 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have more of this than that! < 1158710725 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge KzH2K!NKaszoj < 1158710727 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid character in source file < 1158710958 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine < 1158710961 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge DCBAqponmlG < 1158710979 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1158710985 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cat YOU LOSE < 1158710989 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU LOSE < 1158711012 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the malbolge program is waiting for input < 1158711021 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps d < 1158711025 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 EgoBot: daemon cat reload < 1158711027 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 EgoBot: daemon EgoBot reload < 1158711029 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 Asztal: malbolge < 1158711031 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 GregorR-W: ps < 1158711033 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd have to agree. < 1158711035 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help i < 1158711039 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use: i Function: send input to a process < 1158711055 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!i 3 arr < 1158711066 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!i 3 \n < 1158711075 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.< < 1158711077 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1158711090 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps d < 1158711093 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 EgoBot: daemon cat reload < 1158711094 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be gone, anyway. < 1158711095 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 EgoBot: daemon EgoBot reload < 1158711097 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 Asztal: malbolge < 1158711099 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 Asztal: ps < 1158711105 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haw < 1158711125 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!i 3 fjksljfskd\n < 1158711129 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what's DCBAqponmlG do? < 1158711140 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: Clearly nothing ;) < 1158711147 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found it on my hard disk < 1158711159 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably should have run it *before* I asked EgoBot < 1158711176 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1158711186 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!kill 3 < 1158711187 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Process 3 killed. < 1158711222 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge /dev/urandom < 1158711225 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid character in source file < 1158711229 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaw. < 1158711264 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge /dev/null < 1158711267 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid character in source file < 1158711271 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge < 1158711278 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well? < 1158711282 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge D < 1158711290 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show 3 < 1158711455 0 :Razor-X`!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Razor-X < 1158711476 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge (=<`$9]7<5YXz7wT.3,+O/o'K%$H"'~D|#z@b=`{^Lx8%$Xmrkpohm-kNi;gsedcba`_^]\[ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA@?>=<;:9876543s+O>= putStr < 1158711958 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those all do nothing, but in different ways. < 1158711996 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main() {if(0==1) {printf("Hah! 0=1!");}} < 1158712002 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, It's hard to fit much of a befunge program into 50x50 pixels :( < 1158712022 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: Modern Befunge allows ooxoo pixels. < 1158712039 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/images/avatars/61634.png is what I currently have < 1158712065 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would be awesome if my avatar could factorise numbers or something < 1158712076 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could make one that factorises primes... < 1158712118 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Braincopter < 1158712168 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lode visits the forums in question, if he saw it and ran it, that would be even better < 1158712181 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I meant they all do different kinds of nothing. < 1158712206 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first one exits immediately, the second one infinite loops without doing anything, and the third one just outputs its input. < 1158712214 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: I know, I know. . . < 1158712250 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU do different kinds of nothing. < 1158712252 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if(0==1), assuming a good compiled, is turned into a NOP. < 1158712258 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Indeed, I do. < 1158712259 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = if unsafePerformIO main then False else True < 1158712290 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's unsadePerformIO? < 1158712292 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafe < 1158712312 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafePerformIO :: IO a -> a < 1158712334 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1158712349 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that thing just infiniteloops and smashes the stack? < 1158712358 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that, yeah. < 1158712362 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring. < 1158712396 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = if unsafeCoerce# main then unsafeCoerce# 3 else unsafeCoerce# "whee" < 1158712408 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not quite as boring, I'm sure. < 1158713058 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1158713075 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know of a Brainfuck itoa implementation? < 1158713144 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Itoa? < 1158713155 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope_: Int To ASCII < 1158713190 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For outputting numbers? < 1158713193 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1158713222 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Memory efficiency would be ideal. < 1158713488 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is Bitwise Cyclic Tag the simplest programming language or something? < 1158713498 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has three commands that do simple things. < 1158714218 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158714270 0 :ihope__!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158714283 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmh. < 1158714287 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1158714303 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just writes his own damned itoa < 1158714826 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158715459 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"kill(getpid(), SIGGOHOME)" < 1158718568 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/06.08.09" < 1158726304 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1158727506 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158728505 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@204.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158728916 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158728930 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158731054 0 :mtve!i=mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158733462 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158738654 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158739199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1158739200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1158743009 0 :Ciaran|Work!n=ciawal@mail.kenthouse.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158746794 0 :sad!n=ciawal@mail.kenthouse.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158746818 0 :Ciaran|Work!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1158746867 0 :sad!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Ciaran|Work < 1158747761 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1158748050 0 :dbc!n=dbc@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158748301 0 :lament_!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158748393 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158749864 0 :Ciaran|Work!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1158750597 0 :lament_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1158750632 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158751443 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158752739 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158753007 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158754489 0 :jix!n=jix@L6199.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1158754847 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1158760150 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158760370 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-130-85-79.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158760429 0 :fr34k!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158760433 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lo < 1158760670 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone's asleep? < 1158760675 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1158760679 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1158760679 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am < 1158760682 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1158760691 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: you here? < 1158760694 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey pikhq, i got a new language < 1158760736 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1158760765 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like i wrote it all down in a word-document.. < 1158760790 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fr34k: show show show! < 1158760802 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prepares to flog someone < 1158760856 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, but like it's a word2k7 document..and its best viewed in that format..*.doc then, if i pastebin it, it could be messy, but why not < 1158760875 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im uploading it to pastebin < 1158760875 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 min.. < 1158760890 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeh, btw pikhq, im aka boblol < 1158760916 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, for the love of all that is holy, use a real office suite. . . < 1158760923 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1158760941 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft Office refuses to support any sort of standards. < 1158760959 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Standards which would allow me, a free software user, to view your documents. < 1158760961 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fr34k: save it as rtf... more programs are able to open that < 1158760975 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh, but i was thinking of uploading it to pastebin < 1158760993 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OpenOffice.org is my personal recommendation. < 1158761006 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i said: im uploading it to pastebin < 1158761034 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://openoffice.org/ Give it a try. . . < 1158761069 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've tried openoffice..never really liked it..but that was some time ago..but can i first of all upload it to pb? < 1158761081 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1158761086 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tried OO.o 2? < 1158761106 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: do you know how can i print a file with openoffice from a cronjob? < 1158761172 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: Not familiar with OpenOffice's command line options; sorry. Shouldn't be that hard to do, I'm just not sure how. < 1158761224 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, here it is: http://pastebin.ca/177416 < 1158761235 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it doesn't really do command line options < 1158761243 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not so good at english, so if you have any questions, go ahead < 1158761244 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: Hrm. < 1158761289 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i would also like to know how can i print a file with mozilla < 1158761302 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please let me know if you ever figure it out < 1158761305 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi-: Not sure. < 1158761319 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fr34k: I've got a project for this weekend. < 1158761325 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158761346 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for the weekend project. < 1158761355 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean you're doin it? < 1158761451 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or? < 1158761510 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing it. < 1158761512 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1158761518 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay =D < 1158761530 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your description isn't that great, but your code examples more than make up for it. < 1158761544 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, yeh im not good at explaining :P < 1158761562 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think this idea/language, is much better than CUBSO, wich totally sucked :P < 1158761609 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably wouldn't be hard to compile to C, actually. . . < 1158761625 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps no..i dont speak c so i dont know :P < 1158761639 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but im goin to gothenburg this weekend, so i'll see how it went when i come back < 1158761668 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, s/array/variable/ < 1158761670 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi; By "print a file with mozilla" do you mean that, given a local HTML file, print it out (like the 'print' menu option does) without doing any interaction with it? < 1158761684 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yep < 1158761691 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: s/array/variable ?? < 1158761696 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: or remote file, i guess mozilla could still do http to get it < 1158761697 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try doing a real array implementation that conforms to the syntax. . . < 1158761707 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fr34k: You called variables "arrays". < 1158761712 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1158761715 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh i forgot the word < 1158761716 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1158761722 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i used something else haha < 1158761735 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and if possible it would be cool to do this without an X server of course < 1158761740 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An array, in this syntax, would be like this: < 1158761765 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a(0)=0][a(1)=5][a(2)=250] < 1158761771 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. A 3 element array. < 1158761773 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1158761775 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158761787 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you said you are goin to add that function as well? < 1158761794 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1158761796 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet < 1158761804 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that hard to do, after all. ;) < 1158761811 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, for me it is :P < 1158761831 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, the language turned out to be quite complex, if you know what i mean < 1158761849 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem all that complex to me. < 1158761871 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not in that way, but like this line: < 1158761871 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# < 1158761871 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a[=]10] [b[=]0][.[?[b[<=][a]]][![b[++]]],] < 1158761884 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its quite hard to keep track of all [ and ] < 1158761890 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me it is < 1158761890 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1158761924 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an issue one gets with Lisp, too. Not terribly difficult. < 1158761934 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no < 1158761936 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey wait a minute! < 1158761944 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an error in your array syntax < 1158761949 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be like this: < 1158761959 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a(0)[=]0] < 1158761985 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Where's the while loop? < 1158761992 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1158762018 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see what amounts to an infinite loop. . . < 1158762020 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi; My initial approach (this is from a Firefox perspective) would be to write some JavaScript for it. I think scripts ran from chrome:// urls can print without any user interaction, so you could use "firefox -chrome chrome://my-automagical-printing-extension/thing.xul ". The extension-writing wouldn't be completely trivial, though, and it'd be an ugly solution. And wouldn't work without X. < 1158762025 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no while loop. < 1158762041 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe add a command for "exit loop", and it could work. < 1158762056 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you explain while loop? < 1158762068 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without a while loop, I don't see how this could be Turing complete. . . < 1158762082 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while (a==b) {/* do stuff */} < 1158762090 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh, but how does a while loop work? < 1158762090 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1158762090 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1158762100 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe like this: < 1158762106 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[do stuff] < 1158762132 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[#[a[==][b][.[b[++]],]] < 1158762144 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bona. < 1158762147 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. < 1158762151 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where [#] is while < 1158762151 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1158762155 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1158762163 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasnt that hard .P < 1158762163 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:P < 1158762169 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1158762173 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :notice this: < 1158762188 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wasn't sure if you were *aware* of your lack of Turing completeness (which you've fixed). < 1158762208 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, im not so good at those stuff :P < 1158762234 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you're learning, so I can't complain much. . . < 1158762400 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi; Actually trying to use the browser for that sounds rather painful; almost painful enough to consider writing something that'd just use Gecko for rendering and printing. Haven't done any Mozilla hacking, so no idea how much work that would be. < 1158762410 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi; Someone's doing exactly that at http://gecko.dynalivery.com/ < 1158762441 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably lots of work. < 1158762458 0 :boblol!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158762465 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was disconnected < 1158762499 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i must leave the comp for a while..catched a flu, and when sitting in front of screen i get headache < 1158762499 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :later < 1158762499 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol|afs < 1158762838 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs off < 1158763065 0 :boblol|afs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION starts playing metallica - nothing else matters on guitar < 1158763517 0 :boblol|afs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey pikhq you still there? < 1158763779 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yep that's only $ 12,000 < 1158763882 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was the person who runs the contest? < 1158764008 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi; Yes, well, I wasn't suggesting buying it from them. < 1158764071 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158765749 0 :boblol|afs!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158765972 0 :boblol!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158769026 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158770870 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158771125 0 :fr34k!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158772250 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158773657 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158774440 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158776792 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how he is going to implement wrapping in trefunge :| < 1158777667 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1158778526 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: With much pain. < 1158778657 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also wondering how fbbi ever did it with any efficiency, given it's interesting method of organising its space < 1158778721 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has learned one very, very simple thing about BFM. . . < 1158778741 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to get some macros before I can write a *good* Brainfuck compiler in it. < 1158778864 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe write stuff to allow for that nice little array code I noticed. < 1158779222 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X seems to be never here < 1158779505 0 :CXII!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1158779521 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158784211 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158784259 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1158784732 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158784767 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158787422 0 :ivan`!n=ivan`@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158787559 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h58.250.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158789266 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1158792217 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you can have Firefox call lpr. < 1158792439 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158792689 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably she has a "life". < 1158792691 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158792754 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Not really... sleep and school is all. < 1158792772 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sleep == 5 hours, School == 8 hours. So I'm gone for about 13 hours of the day. < 1158792774 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158792856 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Hold on just a second." < 1158793615 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: In your "x = y(z)" algorithm, don't you mean "y, temp0, and temp1 must be contiguous", not "x, temp0, and temp1"? < 1158793701 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And likewise, wouldn't the pointer end at y, not x? < 1158793722 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11faa0s.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158793727 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *think* you just copied the description from the "x(y) = z" algorithm. . . < 1158793793 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could have.. haven't looked at that stuff in ages < 1158793849 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to assume so, because anything else doesn't make any damned sense. < 1158794680 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMGWTFBBQ! _Eragon_ movie!! < 1158794737 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The real question is: Will it be bad enough to be good while not being bad enough to be so bad it isn't even so bad it's good? < 1158794856 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*brain explodes* < 1158794990 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at my statement or the trailer < 1158794997 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, URL < 1158794998 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1158795001 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cough* < 1158795010 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2006/eragon_022358/eragon_trlr_01_dl.mov < 1158795041 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not at work. < 1158795755 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed. < 1158795801 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1158795809 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got half of my array code for BFM working. < 1158795828 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The getarray macro doesn't work at all. < 1158796954 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158797236 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158797380 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope this got carried over from the other Egobot session. < 1158797387 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1158797398 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daemons have an associated channel. < 1158797407 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just figured that out. < 1158797460 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interchatroomal communication! < 1158797827 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h181.251.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158797858 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: EGOBOT WANT SEX < 1158797901 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION presses F9 in a mysterious fashion < 1158797914 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION masturbates < 1158797920 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1158797924 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::S < 1158797953 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... oh dear.. I need to find an application for parabolas and make a problem out of it... < 1158797963 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give me a problem or something... that's easy to draw :D < 1158797989 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d/dx(x^2). Have fun. < 1158798051 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION laughs evilly < 1158798278 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't get it. < 1158798295 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I need a real life application... which confounds me slightly. < 1158798297 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find the derivative of x^2. < 1158798326 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be easy for at least *some* people in here. . . < 1158798357 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1158798366 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, since you're working on algebra homework, I'm just being a dick by talking calculus. XD < 1158798378 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's CLEARLY (1/3)x^3 < 1158798426 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: I'm afraid you're going to owe me a new keyboard if you keep that up. < 1158798473 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're right, it's (1/12)x^4 < 1158798495 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. You owe me a new keyboard. < 1158798515 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: For the record, it's really i^(2x*pi). < 1158798525 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: You're SO wrong. < 1158798526 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus a constant! < 1158798528 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1158798589 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: Damn, I was hoping nobody would notice! < 1158798604 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually (1/12)x^4+Ax+B where A and B are constants < 1158798707 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yay, confusing young students!) < 1158798782 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiddlesticks < 1158798796 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realised this algorithm totally isn't going to work with negative numbers < 1158799042 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought d/dx x^2 was \rho ( \frac{\partial u_\phi}{\partial t} + u_r \frac{\partial u_\phi}{\partial r} + \frac{u_r u_\phi}{r} + \frac{u_\theta}{r} \frac{\partial u_\phi}{\partial \theta} + \frac{u_\theta u_\phi \cot \theta}{r} + \frac{u_\phi}{r sin \theta} \frac{\partial u_\phi}{\partial \phi} ) < 1158799058 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, wait... that's the beginning of one of the Navier-Stokes equations in spherical coordinates. < 1158799083 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d/dx x^2 != d/dx x^2. < 1158799095 0 :CXII!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1158799103 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ok, ok, it was shamelessly stolen from http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Navier-StokesEquations.html -- though I think we did do that particular coordinate conversion as an exercise.) < 1158799116 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm going to kill you, steal your brain, and use it for my next calculus test. < 1158799129 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An objections? < 1158799134 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1158799136 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/An/Any/ < 1158799151 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No objections, if you really want to, but I wouldn't recommend it: I don't really know the stuff. < 1158799188 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I'll just have to get As on the tests by myself. < 1158799190 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1158799608 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, what's the mathematical method for finding the parabolic path of an object that is being pulled around by a planets gravity? < 1158799629 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a comet being "spun back around" in a parabolic path. < 1158800958 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158800976 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose there's an existing channel anywhere that's about quantum mechanics. < 1158800982 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than ##quantum here, I mean. < 1158801039 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :###quantum? < 1158801187 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any channels bigger than ###quantum? < 1158801258 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm assuming you don't mean "longer name" by bigger :P < 1158801401 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct. < 1158801783 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.foxnews.com/index.html Fox, meet 1997 web design. < 1158801831 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1158801886 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm accusing them of having paid some out-of-work web "developers" from 1997, using Frontpage, for their website. < 1158802004 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what '97 looked like, but that doesn't match my idea of '97. < 1158802020 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, you're right. '97 looked better. < 1158802028 0 :feesh!n=Feesh@81.168.73.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158802033 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until you looked at the source, that is. < 1158802040 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought '97 was red-on-cyan and stuff. < 1158802053 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML3.2. *shudder* < 1158802062 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With source that could have been written in Notepad. < 1158802077 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using

and

and all that stuff. < 1158802102 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: You. . . *do* realise that HTML written in a text editor ends up usually being a bit more sane, right? < 1158802142 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1158802144 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, wait, are you saying that there are tools other than text-editors for working with HTML? < 1158802153 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Sadly, yes. < 1158802165 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bullshit. < 1158802224 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's exactly what I meant by source that could have been written in Notepad. < 1158802248 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, there are also tools other than a command line for manipulating one's computer. < 1158802251 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: Ah. < 1158802269 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oogityboogity < 1158802291 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I better abruptly go. < 1158802293 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION aprubtly goes < 1158802314 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : should be sent to the hell it came from < 1158802384 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1158802387 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1158802391 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1158802399 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oogity! < 1158802401 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1158802453 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1158802457 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :

lalalallalalaaaaa

< 1158802474 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boogity < 1158802498 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1158802502 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1158802511 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot to set an encoding < 1158802562 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_-' < 1158802576 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I can't remember what iso number it is, all my documents are UTF-8 :D < 1158802590 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iso-8859-1 :) < 1158802610 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on < 1158802612 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats like < 1158802617 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 numbers I need to remember < 1158802650 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can hardly remember the 14 digit code for money on animal crossing < 1158802676 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assume UTF8 unless I say otherwise. < 1158802694 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I could tell the webbrowser that too < 1158803544 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In XHTML, UTF-8 is the default. ;) < 1158804056 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1158804084 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158804087 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I implemented Bitwise Cyclic Tag in Microsoft Excel today. < 1158804112 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was at school at the time. I don't think the teacher was saying anything important. < 1158804208 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of BFM was done at school. ;) < 1158804222 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it done in Excel? < 1158804242 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. . . < 1158804244 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl. < 1158804253 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm. Tcl. < 1158804292 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tcls pikhq with a feather < 1158804836 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/06.08.09" < 1158804877 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158804914 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158805010 0 :feesh!n=Feesh@81.168.73.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158805680 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@45.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158806022 0 :Eidolos!n=Sartak@c-24-128-121-242.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158807437 0 :feesh!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158808805 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158808908 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello discriminating coders of #esoteric. What's wrong here? --> http://paste.lisp.org/display/26416 < 1158809045 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's very very imperative, but that'll change after I get it working. < 1158809381 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What's wrong here?" Answer: It's in Lisp. < 1158809394 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too beautiful for ya? < 1158809420 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beautiful in a vomitous rage sort of way. < 1158809431 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. You must love your order of precedence rules ;). < 1158809473 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not love I polish notation. < 1158809514 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! Memorization of useless rules for the win! < 1158809596 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm quite used to Polish notation. . . < 1158809601 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a Tcler. ;) < 1158809628 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's handy for math. < 1158809633 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is pretty much what this is. < 1158809645 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a type superset of Lambda calculus. < 1158809650 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/type/typed/ < 1158809656 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. That too. < 1158809699 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, therefore, any Lisp program is, in effect, math. :p < 1158809714 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a typed superset of math. < 1158809738 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1158815131 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :math is not in reverse polish notation. < 1158815290 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 1.5 hour late response :). < 1158815297 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1158815308 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rpn is fun < 1158815327 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses it on the hp-48  < 1158815402 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. should use rpn for my small lang < 1158815611 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158815630 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: incorrect. Your conversation was 1.5 hour too early. < 1158815635 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158815646 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Oh. Sorry. < 1158815825 0 :ivan`_!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158816822 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1158816822 0 :ivan`_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ivan` < 1158817924 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158818608 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@51.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158820381 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158820936 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158825599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1158825600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1158825684 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158825740 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158827598 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158828454 0 :jix!n=jix@L610c.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1158831240 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Arro[godofwar]nt < 1158836778 0 :Arro[godofwar]nt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158838067 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158838209 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1158839536 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: you here? < 1158840076 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158844765 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158856719 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158856741 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158857671 0 :sp3tt!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158858386 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158859050 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like it should be possible to parse RPN using yacc.. but it seems much easier to handle infix.. it automatically stays balanced < 1158859565 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh, got it :) thanks google < 1158859622 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best way to parse RPN is the Forth way. < 1158859705 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really familiar with Forth.. what do you mean? < 1158859748 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth has the simplest parsing ever. < 1158859766 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes the next word from the stream, words being tokens separated by whitespace. < 1158859783 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and decides, based on that word, what it's gonna do next. < 1158859797 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the only parsing involved is determining whether a character is a space or not. < 1158859806 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh, but I'm trying to use yacc < 1158859825 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the cool thing about Forth is that Forth commands can affect parser behavior < 1158859829 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example < 1158859834 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a special word " < 1158859855 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for strings? < 1158859859 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once Forth encounters that word, the behaviour of the parser changes completely < 1158859871 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nifty < 1158859872 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it reads everything up to the next " as one token < 1158859885 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that " is just a function, you can write your own functions like that. < 1158859903 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :extending the parser in arbitrary ways < 1158859910 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :another special word is ( < 1158859929 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when ( gets executed, it reads off everything until a matching ) and simply discards it. < 1158859934 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ( blah) is a comment. < 1158859948 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, I think I have it.. will have to check for conflicts: < 1158859975 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :expr -> num | expr num + | expr num - | num expr + | num expr - < 1158859991 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(very simplified of course) < 1158859999 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't get it < 1158860028 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an expression can be a number, or an expression followed by a number followed by + or ... < 1158860036 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an expression, in RPN? < 1158860045 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no such thing :) < 1158860046 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 2 3 4 + - + < 1158860089 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be e => 1 e + => 1 2 e - + => 1 2 3 e + - + => 1 2 3 4 + - + < 1158860201 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-130-85-79.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158860596 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, forth avoids those problems completely :) < 1158860617 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RPN. :) < 1158860681 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. don't think I have it after all < 1158860693 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't seem to form 1 2 3 + 4 - + < 1158860703 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the operators are always at the end < 1158860719 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: there's only one way to parse RPN. < 1158860737 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: With a stack. < 1158860772 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're saying that a LR(1) parser is incapable of parsing RPN? < 1158860784 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: RPN is already parsed, as long as you can split it into tokens. < 1158860786 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Push 1, 2, and 3 onto stack. Do operation "plus" (pops 2 values from stack, add together, and push result). < 1158860790 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :expr => expr expr op | number < 1158860799 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Push 4 onto stack. Do operation minus, then plus. < 1158860802 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simple, no? < 1158860803 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno wether LR(1) can parse that < 1158860820 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that should be rpn < 1158861000 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: that works! thanks < 1158862928 0 :sp3tt!n=sp3tt@80-162.cust.umeaenergi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158864415 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1158866088 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this lang is looking more like linguine all the time :P < 1158867190 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda like your FACE < 1158867577 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that supposed to make sense? < 1158867603 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1158868825 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your FACE was supposed to make sense. < 1158874315 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1158874693 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think about how stupid the average person. Now realize that if half the people were dumber than that, it would be the median you stupid goddamn bash quoted morons. < 1158874737 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1158874789 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: considering that it's not at all unlikely that stupidity is normally distributed, it's quite possible that the median and the mean coincide. < 1158874903 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that it's a bell curve. < 1158874960 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i guess all those americans shift the weight to the left a bit. < 1158875030 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :American intelligence curve (from least to most): ..,,,---¯¯¯|_____ < 1158875099 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like \ < 1158875107 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably ;) < 1158875391 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158876231 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 days remaining in the 2006 esolang contest! Who has built/is building something impressive? < 1158876284 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, no- <5 days remaining < 1158876329 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As if :P < 1158876334 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Any respondants? < 1158876362 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. it started? < 1158876383 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pounds his head against a wall. < 1158876403 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pounds RodgerTheGreat's head against a wall. < 1158876414 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do it myself fine, thanks. < 1158876455 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pounds RodgerTheGreat's head against a wall harder. < 1158876532 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stabs GregorR-W, holds a gun against his head, and pulls the trigger. His lifeless corpse makes a feeble gesture of victory before collapsing in a heap. A ghostly voice says "Pwwwnnnz000rr3d..." < 1158876691 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pronounced pwənz zero zero zero (Spanish rolled r) three dee < 1158876709 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION 's ghost says "precisely" < 1158876740 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheGreat`s < 1158876744 0 :RodgerTheGreat`s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1158876769 0 :RodgerTheGreat`s!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I didn't think that plan through. < 1158876773 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION says "poser". < 1158876780 0 :RodgerTheGreat`s!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Asztalon < 1158876801 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :You`re < 1158876805 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION says "this is why long names come in handy" < 1158876808 0 :You`re!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION an idiot. < 1158876865 0 :You`re!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :feeling < 1158876873 0 :feeling!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :You`re < 1158876923 0 :You`re!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR-W < 1158877884 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158877884 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158877884 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158877884 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158877885 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158877904 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158877904 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158877904 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158877904 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11faa0s.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158877904 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158878265 0 :Keymaker!n=nobody@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1158878380 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-esoteric question.. i'm writing a small .com program in nasm (for dos), and would like to know how can i access data is store in "db 100, 22, 33" at the end of the program. or well, doesn't matter where it is, i still have no idea how to access that data < 1158878399 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an esoteric question :P < 1158878407 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1158878481 0 :Asztalon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SomeLabel db 100, 22, 33 < 1158878491 0 :Asztalon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then... use SomeLabel as an address ? < 1158878529 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll try, thanks < 1158879037 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov bx, 0 < 1158879056 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov ah, 2 < 1158879056 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov dl, [data+bx] < 1158879056 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int 21h < 1158879056 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov ah,4Ch < 1158879056 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov al,0 < 1158879057 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int 21h < 1158879059 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :data db 65, 22, 33 < 1158879061 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone spot something wrong? < 1158879063 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should print out "A" < 1158879065 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but it doesn't :D) < 1158879111 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "mov dl, [data+bx]" is supposed to move byte from address data+bx but not sure if i did that correctly.. < 1158879125 0 :Asztalon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should work < 1158879143 0 :Asztalon!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Asztal < 1158879198 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. it seems to print out character 4 < 1158879227 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, byte 04 < 1158879345 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari, do you know?! < 1158879369 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: They said "average", but didn't specify "mean". . . < 1158879397 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158879405 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ... Are you trying to imply that, in your nomenclature, 'average' and 'mean' are not synonyms? < 1158879410 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Average" == "central tendency". < 1158879411 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ps. the idea for making a language for ipod that's fast to type sounds interesting) < 1158879424 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mean, median, and mode are *all* measurements of central tendency. < 1158879441 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. And "average" is "mean". < 1158879456 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admitedly, "average" is *usually* used to mean "mean", but it doesn't necessarily mean just that. < 1158879470 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\end{analretentive} < 1158879926 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :works now, i added a "org 100h" to the beginning < 1158880375 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :times 100 db ($-$$) ? < 1158880378 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something ;) < 1158880388 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm I messed that up < 1158880405 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe: times (100 - ($-$$)) db ? < 1158880443 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, why? < 1158880443 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1158880521 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should i use that? < 1158880616 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea < 1158880624 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just remember reading it in some nasm pdf < 1158880673 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1158882904 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158882910 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Addw Ekrpatv < 1158882954 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean... Ahh, Dvorak. < 1158882960 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1158882989 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::Ü? < 1158883045 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nrn < 1158883051 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, you're not the one typing at 20 WPM. < 1158883057 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, that is ;) < 1158883059 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it 10? < 1158883063 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm typing at 70wpm ATM. < 1158883063 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah < 1158883065 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1158883073 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION switches back to QWERTY < 1158883073 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaah, Qwerty. < 1158883155 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not so good at Dvorak, eh :-P < 1158883171 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither am I, but I can cope. < 1158883210 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh dvorak. < 1158883216 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never been able to program in it though... < 1158883227 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dvorak is for losers who want to be "different" < 1158883233 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1158883297 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"See you later" < 1158883522 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do winners who want to be different use? < 1158883545 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABCDEF. < 1158883568 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An alphabetically arranged keyboard? < 1158883637 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1158884711 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158884770 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed < 1158884912 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158885010 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :AgentWhite < 1158886726 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! :) works. i made a bmp that shows as a picture, and if you run it as com it prints out the exact data of itself. thus, a quine. as well, it uses data part as a quine should, instead of reading the program directly from memory that dos probably would allow < 1158886736 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1158886762 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terrifying. < 1158886781 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheers. < 1158886788 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be more impressive if it were used as an x86 Linux ELF. XD < 1158886794 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1158886797 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :com files are teh lame. < 1158886800 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should work just fine on FreeDOS, though. ;) < 1158886816 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At LEAST a a.out or COFF binary. < 1158886826 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AgentWhite: even COM files that begin with the string "MZ"? < 1158886835 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is the string "MZ" actually nothing special? < 1158886847 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: MZ is .exe, isn't it? < 1158886927 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was annoying problem in the process of making it.. what i read was that microsoft itself defined that their bmp format should allow, for some reason, some header data larger than 40 bytes. but when i tried that it seems only the ms paint could open such picture, and paint shop pro and opera and so on, couldn't. i read that few programs ever adapted to that +40 header data thing, and so it is that even windows image viewer or whatever < 1158886959 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't support it :P < 1158886959 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, i had to use another way; i extended the data part by one extra byte, and increased the total size in bytes by one < 1158886969 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAILURE < 1158886972 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the only way to get an odd number as total size in bytes < 1158887010 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus get a jump instruction from the beginning < 1158887010 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EB xx < 1158887011 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MZ is the magic number for a DOS EXE, yeah. . . < 1158887027 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.com's don't have a magic number, do they? < 1158887037 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways, programs don't seem to care if there is extra 144 in the end of the file, as they all open it correctly < 1158887072 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :likely because the width and height are told in the bmp file < 1158887075 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought MZ was the magic number thing. < 1158887075 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if his befunge bmp-to-tga converter would open it < 1158887080 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... oh. < 1158887082 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1158887096 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, i think there is something, wait. "BM" < 1158887111 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many "EXE" formats, though. . . < 1158887123 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, no :P < 1158887126 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all COFF-derived. < 1158887127 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got confused < 1158887134 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.com is just a raw dump, isn't it? < 1158887135 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"BM" is in bmp :P < 1158887137 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1158887138 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1158887141 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AgentWhite: That's the Portable Executable format. < 1158887149 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EXE < 1158887152 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got confused because i looked with hex editor to this pic:) < 1158887157 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: PE is based on COFF < 1158887166 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A raw dump can't really have a magic number :) < 1158887188 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raw dump? < 1158887214 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AgentWhite: But there are formats older then PE. < 1158887219 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: You could write a .com program by running a .exe program, stopping it, then cat /dev/mem > blah.com :P < 1158887245 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AgentWhite: The magic number MZ is used for DOS .EXE format. < 1158887255 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I thought DOS .exe's were based on COFF as well? < 1158887265 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Running an .exe program, then using cat and /dev/mem? < 1158887269 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What operating system is this? < 1158887278 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/doc/exe/ Does that look like COFF? < 1158887284 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: You can't /really/ do that XD < 1158887291 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: I'm just saying that a .com is basically a dump of memory. < 1158887312 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: OK, OK, sorry I don't know my esoteric/obsolete binary formats by heart :P < 1158887322 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AgentWhite: Wikipedia. < 1158887357 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(in DJGPP, the size of the stub and the start of the COFF image)" < 1158887364 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1158887375 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: All that DOS does with a COM file is load it into 0x0100 and jump to that address. Not very complex. . . < 1158887399 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AgentWhite: Argh. < 1158887456 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, OK, OK, I don't know my obsolete file formats, whatev ;) < 1158887475 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AgentWhite: Nor do I. < 1158887488 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AgentWhite: I use Wikipedia as a natural brain supplement; you should, too. :p < 1158887520 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Natural? < 1158887526 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://koti.mbnet.fi/yiap/stuff/quine8.bmp < 1158887529 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there it is. < 1158887593 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a very pretty picture :P < 1158887605 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't say it was :D < 1158887612 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it need that grey section to be grey? < 1158887675 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1158887684 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a grey section. < 1158887693 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it need to be grey? < 1158887721 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Keymaker understands what ihope just said, I need to relearn English :P < 1158887757 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this doesn't probably answer your question, but so much gray is because the pic has plenty of nops, so that it's dimensions would be large enough to make the byte-in-sizes value a JMP with large enough value < 1158887794 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't necessarily, but that'd require a lot changes to the program < 1158887795 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, can those nops be replaced with, say, a jump past all the nops and some data that would end up being a pretty picture? < 1158887803 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1158887809 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm not going to do that, at least not for a while, if ever :) < 1158887813 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't that output the thing with grey? < 1158887924 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agentwhite: well, you could replace the nops with something else, at least part of them, but you need also space from your picture for having the data part < 1158887992 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course, this code wouldn't work < 1158887992 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, in this program you can't just randomly change those nops < 1158888001 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1158888056 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ihope: i still can't what you're talking about grey :D < 1158888079 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*can't understand < 1158888100 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't matter :) i'll terminate for this evening. night. < 1158888118 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158888602 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"kill(getpid(), SIGGOHOME)" < 1158889802 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :iSpy < 1158889849 0 :iSpy!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1158891169 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/06.08.09" < 1158891857 0 :NamelessOne!n=TNO@220.178.25.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158893416 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1158894054 0 :NamelessOne!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158894696 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h245.225.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158894881 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh.... object oriented is so tedious. < 1158894925 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming in Java? ^^ < 1158895022 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No.. just... object oriented. < 1158895036 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's flesible and all, but it's so... tediooous.. < 1158895055 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check out Glass. < 1158896291 0 :dbc!n=dbc@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158896308 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION yawns < 1158896360 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stabs pikhq in the face. < 1158896386 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stab'(pikhq)=? < 1158896436 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any guess what homework I'm working on? < 1158896646 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English composition. < 1158896650 0 :NamelessOne!n=TNO@220.178.25.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158896693 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1158897816 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158897931 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158898070 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158898714 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158900198 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@108.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158902072 0 :NamelessOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158904088 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158905329 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Leading Edge IRC" < 1158906248 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158906248 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158906249 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158906249 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158906256 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158906256 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158906256 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11faa0s.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158906256 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158908228 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158908228 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158908229 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158908229 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158908252 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158908252 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158908252 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11faa0s.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158908252 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158909090 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158909101 0 :jix!n=jix@L60b9.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1158910168 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158911123 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158911132 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1158911999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1158912000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1158915791 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1158915978 0 :jix!n=jix@L60b9.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1158917090 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158919745 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC has never been so good" < 1158919802 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158920252 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1158920252 0 :clog!n=nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1158921749 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-69-105-11-74.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158921803 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1158921806 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-69-105-11-74.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158923837 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1158924578 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158924581 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-69-105-11-74.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158932209 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never. < 1158935530 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-141-199.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158936926 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h148.253.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158938882 0 :j1x!n=insecure@88.233.66.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158938888 0 :j1x!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158940093 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158940602 0 :fr34k!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158940991 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158941095 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one here? < 1158942103 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1158942702 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-130-85-79.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158942970 0 :boblol!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158943012 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi agan < 1158943015 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*again < 1158943393 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1158943787 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158944278 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158944649 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@132.241.174.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158945310 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1158946429 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@30.80-202-99.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158950062 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh: newsquiz on radio 4 now. < 1158950083 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh: I don't care. < 1158950206 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's funny! < 1158950213 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eats dinner < 1158953929 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1158954696 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1158955523 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158957132 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158958566 0 :jwest-!n=jwest@unaffiliated/jwest/x-422957 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158958582 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158958594 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only binary operations are select and mingle. < 1158958599 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1158958628 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1158958654 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was talking to him about INTERCAL.) < 1158958694 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mingle is actually a useful operation for implementing a befunge interpreter < 1158958728 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of. INTERCAL's other restrictions get in the way a bit. < 1158958747 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge? how so? < 1158958786 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use Morton numbers for keys in a binary tree < 1158958795 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, I've yet to see a binary tree in INTERCAL < 1158958799 0 :jwest-!n=jwest@unaffiliated/jwest/x-422957 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158958815 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: some dynamic allocation would be necessary < 1158960204 0 :fr34k!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158960206 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158960232 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is pikhq here? < 1158960283 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite possibly, yes < 1158960333 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean; is he available? < 1158960391 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he last said something at 12:36UTC < 1158960444 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what is it now? < 1158960483 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:28 UTC. < 1158960490 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1158960517 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wich means its quite a small chance i get a hold of him? < 1158960588 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently he's idle for 1 hours, 57 minutes, 16 seconds. So probably, yes. < 1158960641 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you get the idle time from? < 1158960656 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my client, I do /wii < 1158960661 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1158960675 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In most clients, you can do "/whois " < 1158960694 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why two name? < 1158960697 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter argument (or is it the former?) is the server to ask from. < 1158960708 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So with ' ' it asks from the irc server used by . < 1158960725 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which replies with idle-time and away-message; servers further away generally don't.) < 1158960758 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my client (irssi) /WII is, by default, an alias for "whois $0 $0". < 1158960771 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In irssi, at least, "/wii" is a macro for "/whois $0 $0" < 1158960791 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey! you are a man/woman of taset < 1158960795 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*taste < 1158960868 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought irssi was the semi-standard irc client nowadays, having replaced ircii/epic for most people. (At least that's the case with people I know, which might not be a representative sample.) < 1158960945 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi is still CLI-only, though < 1158960967 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :correction: irssi is still text-mode-only, though < 1158960977 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION actually uses chatzilla :o < 1158961001 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a GTK/Gnome interface included with the main sources at some point, but I guess it got a bit outdated. < 1158961118 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A GUI for irssi was one of their Google-Summer-of-Code projects. < 1158961128 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :real programmers telnet to port 6667 < 1158961214 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a telnet program written in < 1158961300 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't see any news as to what happened with the SoC projects. Or any news at all after May 2nd. (Back when cras was still writing irssi, at least one could get bugs fixed by privmsging patches; with this new dev-team I don't have that luxury, since I don't feel comfortable talking to strangers.) < 1158961395 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1158961435 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :epic is not replaced < 1158961446 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want gui xchat < 1158961474 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if irssi became gui, then i think its falling out on exactly why the project began even < 1158961475 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1158961500 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My experiences with X-Chat haven't been pleasant. (Although that's not quite fair; haven't tried it in years, it might have gotten better.) < 1158961523 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does have a rather clean backend/frontend specification, so one _could_ write a GUI without ruining it for people who don't want it. < 1158961533 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "It" here meaning irssi, of course. < 1158961580 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont like it either but seems they've implemented screen < 1158961583 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i might want to try < 1158961589 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats one big feature it was missing out on < 1158964074 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158964119 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h137.225.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158964185 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@124.57.51.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158965060 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"nite" < 1158966329 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1158966899 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158966923 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sense an operator. < 1158966949 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1158966967 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe my senses are broken. < 1158966992 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they're saying that fizzie did *something* recently. < 1158967010 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :About two minutes ago. < 1158967032 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now some over two minutes ago. < 1158967478 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :challange: get to the thirtieth page (which will tell you that you win). http://n.nfshost.com/1.html There are a couple of evil puzzels. And you will need to use other sites a couple of times, and some tools that any geek will have to hand (simple UNIX CLI stuff). < 1158967491 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed (good luck with the puzzles). < 1158967535 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Challenge: Stare at the goatse picture, unflinching, for ten minutes straight. < 1158967768 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would scale it down to 1x1 pixels, but I think it would still be bad. < 1158967883 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That damn reddish pixel X_X < 1158968782 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158968814 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@129.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158971090 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hereby decree that since the terriotory quantifies that lizard, the eye unrolls the jury. < 1158971469 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I did much anything; especially I did not do anything related to IRC. < 1158971514 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You talked on #esoteric < 1158971518 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCUMBAG!!! < 1158971678 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION throws fizzie into a bag and fills it with scum < 1158971680 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCUMBAG!!! < 1158971704 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. scum -- (a film of impurities or vegetation that can form on the surface of a liquid) < 1158971851 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Then we glean it off, put it in a bag, and put you in the bag. < 1158972911 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158975007 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158975014 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158975023 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Lo. < 1158975055 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :nohope < 1158975068 0 :nohope!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1158975159 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1158975214 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :barfoo < 1158975218 0 :barfoo!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1158980423 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158981107 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1158984328 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158986476 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1158986797 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158989188 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR[IN_DISGU < 1158989199 0 :GregorR[IN_DISGU!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1158990573 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh Gregor.. didn't realize it was you < 1158991343 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158991796 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregrR < 1158994376 0 :GregrR!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1158996441 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1158996471 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gee < 1158996855 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158998399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1158998400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1158998485 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158998536 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158999303 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1158999399 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dee < 1158999598 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sick < 1159000678 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159000788 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: we know < 1159000813 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1159000857 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone who studies esoteric programming languages must be sick. < 1159000861 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1159001057 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1159001155 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1159001159 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right < 1159001198 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm also extremely unhappy < 1159001283 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1159001389 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm lovelorn < 1159001547 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1159001709 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why me -.- < 1159002246 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtube.com/watch?v=gg5_mlQOsUQ < 1159002373 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159002396 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j0 < 1159002442 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1159002520 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1159002573 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That remnids me of the episode of _Time Trumpet_ with the hymn sponsored by Kellogs. Very clever. < 1159002722 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159002758 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;d;d < 1159002776 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtube.com/watch?v=1e0s1qBm9_I < 1159002865 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-S < 1159002867 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1159003042 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1159003650 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eeek! The *evil* smiley! < 1159003712 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Step 1: create important file called foo.txt. Step 2: run the command :>foo.txt Step 3: notice how foo.txt is now empty) < 1159003825 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1159003880 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bash-specific joke. < 1159003907 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :: is the null command, and the > replaces the contents of the suppiled file with the output of the command. < 1159003998 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1159004419 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa < 1159006061 0 :jix!n=jix@L6011.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1159006091 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to drink < 1159006101 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" Like VS.net's GUI? Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-" < 1159006162 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...80% alcohol to get rid of thoughts that r torturing my head, and i think it may help me to invent some new, revolutional esolang < 1159006482 0 :nooga_!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1159006497 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1159006505 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :nooga < 1159006512 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, trying hydraIRC < 1159006817 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1159007148 0 :CXII!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1159007162 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159008944 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@30.80-202-99.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159010103 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hei kipple_ < 1159010275 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hei < 1159011356 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :det er en overraskelse a se dem her ;-) < 1159011592 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1159011612 0 :CXII!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159011847 0 :CXII!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1159011879 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159012361 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :en overraskelse? jeg er jo her nesten hver dag :) < 1159012418 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ja < 1159012458 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :men jeg ser ikke deg < 1159012839 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One to actually change the lightbulb, and twenty to make up the accompanying lightbulb jokes." < 1159013120 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-) < 1159013706 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaa < 1159013706 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1159013706 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1159013706 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1159013773 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-130-85-79.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159014443 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: ? < 1159014663 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going mad < 1159015163 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to eat lunch < 1159015259 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is thinking about her < 1159016110 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need a name for a simple shoot em up game < 1159016853 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1159016864 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here it is: "kill'em all" < 1159016869 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm no < 1159016869 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1159016871 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1159016876 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<: < 1159016880 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1159017993 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Try something fresh" < 1159019689 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1159019911 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159022485 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh noes! NewScientist is teh sux0r! http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/category/2006/09/a_plea_to_save_new_scientist.html < 1159023046 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h30.232.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159023057 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159023563 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1159026095 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has become a fan of gNewSense. . . < 1159026325 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You remind me of the babe < 1159026607 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159026895 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . < 1159027540 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1159030233 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :i-hope < 1159030242 0 :i-hope!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1159032877 0 :ivan`_!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1159033343 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1159033343 0 :ivan`_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ivan` < 1159036896 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1159037288 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finally got around to proving BFM Turing complete. . . < 1159038370 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159038383 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159038395 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!expand BFM < 1159038397 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1159038400 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1159038402 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159038414 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that supposed to do? < 1159038498 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make pikhq expand the acronym BFM. < 1159038506 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BrainFuck Macros. < 1159038517 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1159038524 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I been on ignore by you or something? < 1159038777 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. I've gotten sick of BFM for now. < 1159039334 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION praises the almighty power of the dictionary. < 1159039359 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The datatype... not the reference book... < 1159039361 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ahems. < 1159039648 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION attempts to figure out BFBASIC. . . < 1159039801 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159039898 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BFM isn't a superset of BF? < 1159040347 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1159040362 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just decided to formally prove that it's Brainfuck complete, for no reason. < 1159042260 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi GregorR < 1159042272 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ditto < 1159042318 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting useless nonterminal and useless rule messages from yac.. wonder what I'm doing wrong < 1159042330 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/yac/bison/ < 1159042368 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1159042371 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1159042374 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1159042416 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: btw, I found a channel you're not in.. #ipodlinux ;) < 1159042428 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have an ipod :P < 1159042430 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I know what's wrong. < 1159042451 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: what < 1159042474 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: You're not using sexps. < 1159042501 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: You are using a language which requires a parser generator because it doesn't have the power to do parsers properly. The solution is to use a more powerful programming language. < 1159042505 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ducks* < 1159042529 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : My horse is 20ft tall! < 1159042531 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recommends Haskell + Parsec < 1159042535 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: I've been wanting to learn these tools for a long time .. hehe < 1159042537 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1159042607 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: btw, you should be able to use start conditions to simplify your /* */ scanning < 1159042640 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no idea what project calamari is referring to ... < 1159042651 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfc < 1159042659 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean c2bf? < 1159042663 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1159042669 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't write the parser for it, I downloaded it :P < 1159042674 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah! < 1159042727 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so nobody here knows how to use bison then.. lol < 1159042741 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used it, it's just a PITA. < 1159042743 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess we all just like to roll our own < 1159042767 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1159043126 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmm < 1159043413 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1159043469 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I prefer to just make a language which can be parsed by Tclsh for me. :p < 1159043549 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I can use Boost.Spirit. That's a rather nice parser generator. < 1159043565 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where nice == add 5 minutes to your compilation time < 1159043623 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1159043646 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :B.S seems to consist mostly of buzzwords: "an object oriented recursive descent parser framework implemented using template meta-programming techniques" < 1159043659 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it is good, though. < 1159043679 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Templated recursive-decent? < 1159043686 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that sounds /really/ good :P < 1159043700 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hint: that was sarcasm) < 1159043775 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nice and ... dynamic, at least < 1159043789 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could, I believe, construct rules at runtime too < 1159043893 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAICT, the Parsec parser library is one-of-a-kind, though. < 1159043931 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boost.Spirit looks very like a Pyhon parser library I tried to use once. < 1159047039 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way, in Python, to turn a variable name into a string? < 1159047066 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable -> "variable" < 1159047073 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without actually returning the variables value. < 1159047696 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1159048565 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes. < 1159049959 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159050220 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1159050385 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h30.232.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159052295 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159056230 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1159064352 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159064869 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ifndef_GREGOR_H < 1159065384 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159065662 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h30.232.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159065882 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159066882 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1159071228 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159073415 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1159074598 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159074651 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h30.232.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159075956 0 :CXII!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1159077120 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" Want to be different? HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-" < 1159077215 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1159077823 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1159079244 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159079826 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159079891 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h30.232.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159083038 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1159083315 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@124.57.51.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1159084583 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1159084639 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h30.232.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159084799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1159084800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1159084884 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1159084937 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159094158 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@30.80-202-99.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159094241 0 :jix!n=jix@L62d6.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1159095611 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1159099085 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1159102582 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1159102643 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1159108542 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j0 < 1159112408 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159113508 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159113511 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159113540 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Lo. < 1159114087 0 :wooby_!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159114118 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159114177 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159114427 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi *2 < 1159117459 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159117686 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi everyone < 1159117701 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n.nfshost.com/1.html < 1159117740 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC, did you post a link to that "game" about two nights ago? < 1159118148 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone there? < 1159118191 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tgwizard: yeah < 1159118192 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did < 1159118211 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It took me 1/2 to 1 hour < 1159118504 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said that you needed some CLI-tools < 1159118507 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1159118556 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many pages did you "complete"? < 1159118562 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of them, up to 30 < 1159118606 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A search engine woul be very helpful for one of them. < 1159118614 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are you stuck? < 1159118623 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :search engine as in google? < 1159118627 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1159118628 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :page 16 < 1159118641 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/msg me the URL < 1159118740 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I /msg it right? < 1159118740 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-S < 1159118747 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(never done it before :D) < 1159118826 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get 13... < 1159118860 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: /msg me < 1159118867 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i'll get it myself < 1159118922 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant send me the URL so I can see where you are stuck < 1159118929 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for my interest < 1159118954 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'll stop here < 1159118976 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: What nationality are you? < 1159118981 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :german < 1159119088 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1159119088 0 :clog_!n=nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1159119105 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clog_: hi < 1159119251 0 :fr34k!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159119255 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159119277 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159119296 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of us are doing n.nfshost.com/1.html < 1159119311 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wich is? < 1159119327 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sereis of 30 puzzles < 1159119341 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1159119342 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159119364 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :each is on its own page, and you have to work out the URL fo the next page from the contents of the current page < 1159119382 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1159119383 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159119391 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant do that right now though < 1159119402 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :knowing a little about how web pages work helps in two of the puzzles. < 1159119409 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159119419 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but im gonna format some of my drives on my server < 1159119539 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im already at 9th :P i think..sept is the ninth huh? < 1159119635 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pages 18 and 28 (IIRC) are *evil* < 1159119646 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159119700 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant get past the one saying 'sept' :P < 1159119716 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where do you live? < 1159119722 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweden < 1159119723 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1159119725 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1159119754 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1159119766 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what subjects are you doing at school and what year are you in? < 1159119770 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i live in sweden and I made past 7 < 1159119817 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im 9th year of school.. < 1159119824 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt sept short for september? < 1159119835 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fr34k: I think you are on the 7th puzzle < 1159119850 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1159119857 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you have found out, that is not the meaning of "sept" for that question < 1159119863 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1159119867 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not september < 1159119882 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1159119887 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a clue perhaps? < 1159119962 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1159119962 0 :clog_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :clog < 1159120010 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Formally: you must find a function that turns 7 into "sept", then apply that function to 8 to help find the URL of the next question. < 1159120019 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh < 1159120023 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that much < 1159120025 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1159120036 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how to hint to you what that function *is*, without just telling you. < 1159120045 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1159120048 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1159120065 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot: indeed, "huh?" < 1159120071 0 :boblol!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159120075 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1159120082 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To repeat myself... < 1159120085 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i cant associate sept with 7 :P < 1159120086 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how to hint to you what that function *is*, without just telling you. < 1159120097 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1159120101 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just gonna think some more < 1159120109 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that will help :P < 1159120119 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect not < 1159120121 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz i really cant see wehre sept has to do with 7 < 1159120162 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The author is making a reference to a look-up table from numbers to strings that he assumes everyone will know the beginning of. < 1159120188 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the? < 1159120192 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt get a word :P < 1159120211 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it didnt was september, i have no clue < 1159120215 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This look-up table is reasonably well-known in England, but probably less-so in Sweden. < 1159120222 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1159120223 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159120242 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1159120251 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1159120258 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sept is 7 in another language? < 1159120269 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boblol: yes < 1159120281 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so im known as boblol now? great < 1159120283 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid net < 1159120286 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ok < 1159120316 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use /name fr34k to change back, then < 1159120328 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh < 1159120333 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean /nick < 1159120346 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h8.237.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159120356 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't give out too many clue on-channel < 1159120358 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i just found out, that 111, wich the document is called, is also 7 in the binary system < 1159120359 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*clues < 1159120367 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159120373 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boblol: correct < 1159120396 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1159120403 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i just need to sort out how it would be in 8 < 1159120409 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonono < 1159120416 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1159120417 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1159120418 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1159120427 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i didnt < 1159120431 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1159120440 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :binary for 8 is 1000, but that is nothing to do with anything < 1159120454 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159120484 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :found out :P < 1159120981 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey how do i register nick now again? < 1159121012 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :start with /msg nickserv help < 1159121039 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :futher commands can be typed into the result new window/tab. < 1159121042 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz SimonRC: i sent you some pm's but couldnt cuz my nick wasnt registered < 1159121045 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably) < 1159121051 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boblol: ah, ok < 1159121055 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1159121068 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone alread took "fr34k", BTW < 1159121077 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on this server? < 1159121148 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this network < 1159121185 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :individal servers don't matter much in IRC, the network is what matterss < 1159121196 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, cuz i registered the nick fr34k < 1159121202 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1159121254 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boblol: when/ < 1159121273 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when did you last identify to nickserv? < 1159121277 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, some time ago < 1159121283 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never identified :P < 1159121292 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1159121398 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well do "/msg nickserv help" and find out how to use it. < 1159121412 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may have been nicked if you never identified < 1159121420 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may have been *stolen* if you never identified < 1159121433 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1159121436 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(silly Angliscism) < 1159121449 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i tried identify, but it only said "no such nick/channel < 1159121452 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1159121471 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1159121493 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what client are you using? < 1159121517 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mIRC < 1159121522 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1159121540 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this window, try typing "/msg nickserv help" < 1159121587 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1159121590 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did that do? < 1159121610 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me a list of commands in the status window < 1159121619 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1159121627 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im gonna try "recover" wich kills someone who might have stolen it < 1159121642 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try "/query nickserv" in this window < 1159121660 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a second < 1159121664 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im gonna try idenitfy < 1159121706 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it said that the password for fr34k was incorrect < 1159121728 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you give a password in the IDENTIFY command? < 1159121742 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look: i registered on the DALnet server, ok? < 1159121760 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesnt matter? < 1159121773 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is DALnet related to freenode? < 1159121785 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its two completely diff servers < 1159121807 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1159121818 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they are both IRC networks, not irc servers < 1159121819 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see why it wont work? < 1159121823 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1159121855 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc.freenode.net and irc.dal.net < 1159121863 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1159121882 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159121908 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but right now, im trying to solve one of the puzzles :P < 1159121926 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im on "13, unlucky ..." < 1159121951 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freenode and DALnet are seperate IRC networks, and so (as you seem to have figures out) registering on DALnet will not register you on Freenode. < 1159121964 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :precisely < 1159121971 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore, i dont care right now < 1159121972 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless freenode and DALnet have a special arrangement) < 1159121975 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must solve the puzzle < 1159121977 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okok < 1159121983 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think they do, bte < 1159121985 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*btw < 1159122005 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so i done some research of "13, unlucky" but dont seem to find anything < 1159122013 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found stuff, but none has wored < 1159122016 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*worked < 1159122114 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1159122237 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an English and American phrase. < 1159122295 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats why i dont now :P < 1159122466 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you using google? < 1159122473 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i am < 1159122481 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wikipedia < 1159122491 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish or english versions? < 1159122526 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :english :P < 1159122537 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1159122549 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1159122557 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, for me google was enough < 1159122560 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i dont find anything < 1159122569 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I was quite lucky < 1159122582 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1159123199 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol|food < 1159124486 0 :boblol|food!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol < 1159124533 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb < 1159124611 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Welcome Back) < 1159125013 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1159125015 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankies < 1159125025 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a little algorithm program :P < 1159125406 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give details < 1159125422 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a little unalgorithm program < 1159125428 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1159125429 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok? < 1159125593 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is my program: http://bicyclol.awardspace.biz/algo.php?num=59 < 1159125619 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An algorithm is a set of instructions to calculate something. < 1159125623 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1159125636 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1159125638 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1159125648 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but lemme explain how this prog works < 1159125682 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a number, lets say 12, then you reverse this and add it to the first number: 12+21=33, then you cant do it anymore, cuz 33 is a palindrome < 1159125692 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1159125698 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the sequence for 59: 59, 154, 605, 1111 < 1159125714 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it cant be calculated anymore, since 1111 is a palindrome < 1159125719 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn;t call that an *algorithm* < 1159125729 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then dont, i dunno what it is called :P < 1159125733 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but try with 196 < 1159125869 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has pikhq been inactive for a long time? < 1159125985 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd call it a function. < 1159126032 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159126040 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its called the reverse-then-add sequence < 1159126062 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yeah < 1159126074 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh < 1159126075 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1159126086 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Haskell, I define: < 1159126088 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :revadd n = let sh = show n in let rev = reverse sh in if sh == rev then n else n + read rev < 1159126090 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has pikhq been inactive for long? < 1159126113 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I can try 196 with: < 1159126115 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take 100 $ iterate revadd $ 169 < 1159126124 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get the first 100 numbers generated < 1159126137 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HoF FTW! < 1159126679 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, i ask again: has pikhq been inactive for long time? < 1159126742 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say this: revadd x = let {rev x = read (reverse (show x))} in x + rev x < 1159126811 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shall i get you a link to the php-source? < 1159126932 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope; I don't think your version checks for the terminating palindrominicity condition. < 1159127014 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speak of wich: http://www.norvig.com/pal2txt.html < 1159127925 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey pikhq? you there? < 1159127961 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: why wouldn't you call that an algorithm? < 1159128195 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah, Star Trek rocks: "Assist this boy to the quaranteen antiroom." ... it's an anti-room? What is it, a room made of antimatter? A room with negative proportions? < 1159128357 0 :deltab!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ante-room: the room before a main room that you wait in < 1159128385 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And quarantine. < 1159128394 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. anteroom, antechamber, entrance hall, hall, foyer, lobby, vestibule -- (a large entrance or reception room or area) < 1159128410 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate you guys :P < 1159128423 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is the expected response, yes. < 1159129144 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know how long pikhq has been inactive? < 1159129215 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1159129355 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean "completely said nothing in IRC", you can just ask your client. < 1159129365 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:22:16 [freenode] ... idle : 0 days 4 hours 23 mins 39 secs [signon: Thu Sep 14 16:14:31 2006] < 1159129419 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he hasnt said anything for 4 hrs? < 1159129420 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for this channel, last comment I see here is "17:58:37 < pikhq> 'Lo." around four-and-a-half hours ago. < 1159129429 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159129438 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what is that "idle-check" command? < 1159129463 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite often "/whois " will work; "/wii " is a common alias for that. < 1159129473 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159129485 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know if he has like msn etc? < 1159129516 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't help there. < 1159129523 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1159129588 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MSN? Why? < 1159129603 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, need to contact him < 1159129636 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see... http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/User_talk:pikhq < 1159129654 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1159129656 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that? < 1159129666 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, maybe not. < 1159129683 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could try MemoServ, but I don't know if anybody pays attention to that. < 1159129694 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159129702 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or i just wait to see if he comes in < 1159130314 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can go see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pikhq < 1159130330 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It lists some forms of communication. < 1159130335 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's always email. < 1159130340 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159130386 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jabber?! < 1159130414 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's probably doing something BF related. < 1159130462 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said he was goin to make my esolang idea reality this weekend so perhaps that is what he does < 1159130475 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmm... I'm running really short on time this weekend... sorry contestants/committee. < 1159130581 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your Esolang idea, out of curiosity? < 1159130591 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't have time to do anything more than lau... errr look at it.) < 1159130650 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a very bad explanation lying on pastebin < 1159130678 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :want link? < 1159130697 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yah. < 1159130716 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 sec < 1159130745 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now remember: this idea is (c) me < 1159130746 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/177450 < 1159130764 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And one question for #esoteric's members: When doing DSP with logic circuits and making a high/low-pass filter, do you just use an FFT and then junk the frequencies above/below a certain band? < 1159130769 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now the explanation is really bad, i suck at english < 1159130770 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boblol: Copyright? < 1159130773 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EWWWW. < 1159130784 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well its my idea < 1159130794 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OSI approved license please. < 1159130800 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1159130810 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Creative Commons, LGPL, GPL, MIT, etc. < 1159130867 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget about (c) ok? im just trying to say that the idea is mine, and mine alone < 1159130879 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trust me, I'm not going to steal your idea :P. < 1159130904 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i hope not < 1159130936 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the esotericness in it, though? < 1159130947 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i dunno, pikhq just liked it < 1159130962 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty nifty syntax, I must say. But it's not esoteric enough. < 1159130979 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then explain the word 'esoteric' < 1159131003 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esoteric == weird. < 1159131020 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does your language have functions? < 1159131025 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :liek? < 1159131046 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like ``void blah { blah }; blah();'' < 1159131060 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh..check the explanation < 1159131088 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yah. I did. < 1159131105 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you make a block of code so you can use it later? < 1159131126 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :urg. im sry but i dont understand..make it ultra-basic-simple < 1159131156 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cxu vi komprenas? < 1159131164 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? < 1159131167 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind :P. < 1159131181 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What programming languages do you know? < 1159131209 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh.. < 1159131226 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :php, html, actionscript, brainfuck < 1159131234 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_-'' < 1159131239 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1159131302 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1159131316 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP is the only language (among those) that has functions.... < 1159131320 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't know PHP ;-;. < 1159131355 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, i beleive actionscript has functions as well < 1159131358 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1159131368 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make functions in your language? < 1159131404 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you must first explain what you mean by "functions"..cuz all it can do now, is calculate every kind of data that can be calculated < 1159131424 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard in basic English.... < 1159131432 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh < 1159131438 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give it a try < 1159131481 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A function is a bunch of code that is called with a name (like ``add'' or ``subtract''). Whenever you ``call'' it, or use its name, the code the function stands for is executed. < 1159131507 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1159131514 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if(){}; ?? < 1159131514 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1159131526 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda. < 1159131544 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz you have If, Else If, While loop, standard loop < 1159131549 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that is all < 1159131561 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like add (x y) {return (x + y);} then ``add(4 5);'' you get `9'. < 1159131596 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you mean like that..well first of all: actionscript supports that, but no, my language does not have that < 1159131602 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1159131603 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, PHP calls them "subs" or "subroutines" < 1159131634 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP calls them "functions." < 1159131639 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.functions.php < 1159131642 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subroutines, methods, functions, lambda expressions, Monadic function execution, IT'S THE SAME BLOODY THING. < 1159131650 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must be confusing PHP with Perl, which uses the keyword "sub". < 1159131671 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why must programmers be so obtuse?! ;-; < 1159131711 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambda expressions and subroutines... aren't really the same thing, are they? < 1159131718 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true.... < 1159131731 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Named lambda expressions. Happy ? < 1159131744 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambda expressions that return actions? < 1159131752 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those'll make me happy. < 1159131756 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok then. < 1159131762 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambda expressions that return actions. < 1159131778 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to be doing my science project entirely in Scheme and using only GNU utilities. < 1159131779 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly becomes happy < 1159131786 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1159131904 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/GNU/GPL/ < 1159131916 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, no Hurd there? :p < 1159131928 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They poop too much. < 1159131931 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1159133587 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurd isn't GPL? < 1159133635 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be. < 1159133769 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would certainly think it is. < 1159133789 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, I'm right :) < 1159135972 0 :_Ann_!n=anovikov@89.207.216.240 JOIN :#esoteric < 1159136216 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1159136241 0 :_Ann_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1159136362 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159136761 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/92905.aspx < 1159137357 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1159138938 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159140440 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159140468 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159140495 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is a test line from my ipod lang.. still figuring some things out: W1L1=2L2=3I1L3=4EL4=5$$ < 1159140513 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :insert whitespace as desired < 1159141152 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is SO readable. < 1159141378 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is supposed to be writeable, not readable ;) < 1159141414 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I was thinking ;) < 1159141419 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not implement BF on an iPod? < 1159141439 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If pikhq was here, he'd be proud of me now. < 1159141489 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm here, and I'm proud. :) < 1159141499 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1159141620 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the AP Physics C formula sheet. It's identical to the B sheet, with more sigmas, more d's, and a few integral signs. Plus, almost all the Calculus has been done for you in a little corner of the formula sheet, or the Integrals have been expanded to sigmas for you. Hooray future American engineers! < 1159141725 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: bf is hard to write < 1159141731 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it runs slow < 1159141764 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no iPod ASM? < 1159141778 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ipod isn't very fast.. so I need a lang that compiles efficiently and is able to use more of the instruction set < 1159141799 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: I'm sure there is.. but that is the other problem: bad keyboard interface < 1159141820 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't transfer programs to the iPod? < 1159141831 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you can < 1159141838 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I want to write programs on the ipod as well < 1159141845 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF's command set is trivial. < 1159141854 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not listening :) < 1159141874 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf isn't a good match for the above mentioned reasons < 1159141889 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PicoCPU. XD < 1159141892 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course I'll probably write bf stuff just for fun :) < 1159141895 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Death* < 1159141904 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think about it. Portable BF! < 1159141910 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write BF audio!!!11!!! < 1159141921 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :already have that on my hp and casio cals tho < 1159141923 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: He did write BF Audio. < 1159141926 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calcs < 1159141937 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: thanks :) < 1159142152 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a little more readable with whitespace added: http://rafb.net/paste/results/1l3NPb28.html < 1159144292 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed < 1159145445 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1159145524 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1159145816 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159145892 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to learn TI-ASM and code BF for that. < 1159145941 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must be for the newer TI's < 1159145959 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote my BF interp on the ti-82 < 1159145965 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to learn RPL. < 1159145976 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reverse Polish Notation? < 1159145984 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reverse Polish Lisp. < 1159146004 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to learn ARM assembly language < 1159146005 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the builtin language on my calculator. < 1159146025 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HP Calculator? < 1159146025 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I might want to bother figuring out how to get GCC-HP working, isntead. < 1159146030 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1159146040 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's awesome. I want Lisp on my calculator ;-; < 1159146047 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well.... it's a pain on that horrible keyboard. < 1159146059 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the HP ROM is free sofware. . . < 1159146068 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're required to have TIs. < 1159146073 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with the ht keyboard? < 1159146075 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not my choice. < 1159146077 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hp < 1159146086 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure about HP's keyboard, but the TI keyboards are uggh. < 1159146100 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should grab that one implementation of Scheme for the Palm. < 1159146189 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/06.08.09" < 1159146491 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know where one can get old laptops on t3h cheap? < 1159146496 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like <$200 ? < 1159146829 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1159146862 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you live anywhere near a university, try to find the location of their "Property Disposition Center". < 1159146892 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live sorta near Stanford. < 1159146907 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to U of M's dispo center for several years- always a good place to look for cheap, obsolete parts. < 1159146935 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to slap a form of GNU Linux on the thing. I need to be in perfect control of the environment for the project, and for that I need GNU Linux. < 1159146944 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought a 200mhz powerbook for $75 there once- pretty good deal considering the battery was in perfect condition. < 1159146951 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully it can support a 2.6 kernel so I can play with ALSA's OSS emulator layer. < 1159146960 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1159146983 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159146998 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola Gregor < 1159147006 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'll probably be needing an X server of some sort (XVesa is my guess), GNUPlot to make life easier, and if possible, the capability to run Chicken. < 1159147026 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you sure Bochs or the like wouldn't suit your purposes better? Emulating a machine probably wouldn't be much slower than using an obsolete laptop, and you'd have more configuration control. < 1159147039 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! < 1159147046 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's TRUE! < 1159147047 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless the point is portability... < 1159147062 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. I just need a show for the science fair people. < 1159147087 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does QEmu work in Windows? < 1159147089 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, well there you go. < 1159147100 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: One can do ALSA on 2.4. < 1159147104 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, but I imagine it does- there's an OSX port. < 1159147120 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: yeah Qemu works in windows < 1159147125 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But I need the OSS Wrapper. < 1159147126 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w00t. < 1159147131 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go, razor. < 1159147135 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yah. < 1159147136 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's great. < 1159147138 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: And the OSS wrapper also works in 2.4. < 1159147144 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh. I didn't know. < 1159147147 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad I could help. ^_^ < 1159147157 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thankies! :) < 1159147168 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSA, after all, was originally just some additional 2.4 modules (xor 2.4 patch). ;) < 1159147201 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope mplayer can work too, so I don't have to write C wrapper code. < 1159147209 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*more C wrapper code. < 1159147210 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1159147222 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, what's this science fair project? < 1159147229 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NNs and DSP. < 1159147241 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: http://www.h7.dion.ne.jp/~qemu-win/ < 1159147244 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NNs?!? < 1159147248 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neural Nets. < 1159147255 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1159147266 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to be writing everything. < 1159147270 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh. fascinating. < 1159147283 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to use that diagram I made earlier. < 1159147288 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahp. < 1159147296 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'll need to graduate from the transfer function ;). < 1159147323 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like it'll be *very* cool. < 1159147336 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. I had to argue my dad into submission to believe it though. < 1159147348 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally he says ``You're too bullheaded to refuse, so whatever.'' < 1159147388 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1159147444 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neural nets are really one of the best examples of pure success in AI research. < 1159147462 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by designing your net and training algos properly, they can achieve amazing results. < 1159147462 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing is, I noticed while reading the DSP books that convolution is just the application of a weighted average on the input signal. I was thinking of having the NN's weights emulate the convolution signal (well, that'll be one of the experiments, I'll be abstracting it to many different levels) and see if it can beat the algorithms already written. < 1159147524 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :advancing the state of the art is a surefire way to win in a contest. < 1159147532 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully :) < 1159147543 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which, have you received any submissions yet? < 1159147563 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been *very* busy this weekend up till now, and I'll be busy in a few minutes for test studying. < 1159147578 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq submitted his a long time ago, other than that, I haven't had the time to check. < 1159147605 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have AP Physics formulas to memorize which is easy, but a whole bunch of US historic people to remember which is annoying and useless. < 1159147620 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm heading a team in my dorm that's entering MTU's "cardboard boat" competition. It'll probably be soaking up *all* my free time for the next week. < 1159147625 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be abstracting on a whole bunch of levels. From the ``magic'' level (I give you blah-very-noisy-signal, I want blah-un-noisy-signal) to the level of emulating the convolution signal using the weights. < 1159147639 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1159147742 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll be a *HECK* of a lot of work. I'll be writing GNUPlot wrappers, NN base classes, NN topologies, signal classes and convenient signal manipulation functions, and this is before any of the actual testing of the experiments. < 1159147833 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like it'll generate a lot of reusable code. < 1159147855 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it will. < 1159147878 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I wanted mplayer. I don't want to have to write wrapper code to set the parameters for playing with audio raw. < 1159147878 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. I haven't coded a proper neural net system since my BASIC days. perhaps I should build a new one with Java... < 1159147899 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lisp has a particular advantage in that functions are datatypes. I'll be exploiting this for NN writing. < 1159147973 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :replacing current chip designs with neural nets sounds like it'll be a trick, but the technique could improve sound emulation tech... *running* a neural net doesn't take much CPU power once it's properly evolved and tweaked. < 1159148004 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if the weigths can produce convolution signals, then you don't even need an NN. < 1159148015 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is one level of abstraction, of course.) < 1159148021 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1159148035 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have an NN produce the weights beforehand, then make a signal using that and store it in the particular filters you want to implement. < 1159148046 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, then you could turn the single-layer net into a matrix operation. < 1159148061 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly. < 1159148115 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. you might actually be able to use such a technique to have a GPU emulate a soundcard- GPU's are built primarily around vector processors- dedicated matrix multipliers. < 1159148118 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best thing about NNs is that, it lets high schoolers play algorithm with the big mathematicians. < 1159148143 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sticking to sound simply for the purposes of the project. If I have the time to do graphics research too, I'll add that in later. < 1159148183 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But raw audio is A) Really easy to get to play in Linux B) Based on very simple math C) Easy to sample. < 1159148210 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'm just saying the GPU could be used to *accelerate* neural net evaluation, if you needed them for a serious purpose. I'm not sure how feasible simulating GPU's with NN's would be... < 1159148222 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1159148297 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other advantage of audio is that it depends less on precision than most types of calculations a computer could be used to do. Audio can be processed in a "good enough" fashion with little harm. < 1159148419 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1159148436 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll also have to be creative in my sampling... the sample may be *particularly* bad, for illustrative purposes ;). < 1159148445 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1159148527 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard that raw voice samples are pretty awful. < 1159148569 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to build a NN-based vocoder could be interesting. input nodes would take the raw audio signal, and output nodes could extract formants... then you could build a vox around the opposite principle, using outputs to modulate a pure sine sample or somesuch thing... < 1159148609 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dad couldn't understand why you have multiple inputs to the NN when it's only one signal :D < 1159148613 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to figure out how to do raw audio I/O from java. < 1159148618 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1159148629 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link to a C++ library. < 1159148658 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might work. A more platform-independent solution would be preferable, but hey.. < 1159148664 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Tritonius. < 1159148668 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or SWIG, yeah. < 1159148715 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1159148721 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been looking into Java for the AP test, so jah. < 1159148765 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very nice. this may do what I need. < 1159148823 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, it looks like sun's API replicates most of the functionality. < 1159148836 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah- I see- it's an OSS port. < 1159148910 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need to set sample rate, and sample format. < 1159148918 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to just use s16. < 1159149131 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you going to be comparing your nets to existing algorithms, performance-wise, or is the experiment mainly to prove that NN's are a viable solution? < 1159149147 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comparing. < 1159149188 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@124.57.51.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1159149201 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1159149214 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@124.57.51.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1159149224 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should try pounding some XM's or MOD's through your filters- it'd be interesting to see if the clearer synthetic patterns worked better, or impaired the nets. < 1159149402 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, if there's anything I can help out with, just let me know. < 1159149426 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But aren't XMs and MODs already cleaned up? < 1159149491 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need something with noise and make it un-noisy. < 1159149522 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they're synthesized in the first place. Comparing a digitally generated one with a loopback-recorded one could get you some clear metrics for cleanup. < 1159149536 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1159149544 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, that's a very good idea. < 1159149551 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1159149573 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll use the loss playing the MOD or XM, resample that, and compare that to the ideal signal. < 1159149578 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or any such audio sample, actually. < 1159149615 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trick is to use some type of sample that you can generate a "perfect" control sample for, such as MIDI, SID, MOD, XM, etc. < 1159149634 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I can tell mplayer to generate a perfect sample for me :3 < 1159149645 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1159149739 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, I have this song stuck in my head: http://rodger.nonlogic.org/music/Rebb_-_Devious.mod < 1159149833 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and thank calamari for the inpsiration for a lot of this. < 1159149866 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thank you for the NN inspiration :D. < 1159149948 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no problemo! :D < 1159150020 0 :oerjanj!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1159150194 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, oerjanj. < 1159150367 0 :oerjanj!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi rodgerthegreat < 1159150704 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'sup? < 1159151293 0 :oerjanj!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much < 1159151323 0 :oerjanj!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just reading Lambda the Ultimate < 1159151482 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1159151630 0 :oerjanj!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see a real Old Hat has joined the wiki... < 1159151855 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1159151946 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :referring to the "Prehistory of Esolangs" page? I thought it was pretty interesting. < 1159152295 0 :oerjanj!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1159152331 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? < 1159152351 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Prehistory_of_Esoteric_Languages < 1159152354 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ a good read < 1159152384 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just me, or is the wiki kinda slow today? < 1159152398 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's slow. < 1159152414 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, good. I'm not hallucinating. < 1159152475 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm running off of a T3 atm, so any delay whatsoever feels weird. < 1159152512 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A couple weeks ago, my roommate managed a 14megs/sec download rate. ^_^ < 1159152527 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1:27 and the page isn't loading. < 1159152545 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1159152555 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try refreshing < 1159152673 0 :oerjanj!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi razor-x, did jix ever get hold of you? from reading the logs you seemed to behave like Superman and Clark Kent... < 1159152784 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On weekdays, I'm away for a long time. < 1159152789 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This weekend I've been very busy. < 1159152854 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :SendQ exceeded < 1159152906 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should give Dimensifuck a ooD memory as well. . . < 1159153034 0 :oerjanj!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was suggested already, possibly by me < 1159153171 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm saying I should actually do so. < 1159156415 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have been shamed GregorR. < 1159156444 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I met someone who is in almost as many channels as you're in, squared. < 1159156577 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :144 channels?!? < 1159156589 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost. < 1159156629 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1159156636 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :76 in actuality. < 1159156639 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is he/she talking in all of them? < 1159156648 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor IRC client. < 1159156650 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it. < 1159156798 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :76 is not _quite_ almost 144. < 1159156862 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In respect to GregorR it is. < 1159157274 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR is about 53% of his advertised value? < 1159157324 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on his advertised value. < 1159157346 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1159159017 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159159317 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1159159597 0 :oerjanj!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, i'm trying that puzzle and when googling to find information on the hint on page thirteen, i end up at a cheat sheet for the puzzle < 1159159640 0 :oerjanj!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just as well i would never have figured out that hint otherwise. < 1159161154 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159161278 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11faa0s.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159162356 0 :oerjanj!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159162407 0 :wooby_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone looked into the shortest possible BF quine < 1159162497 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Y'know, I'm not in a bunch of channels for novelty value. < 1159162508 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Awww. < 1159162510 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: And is this person in so many channels, oh, say, ChanServ? ;) < 1159162516 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Nope. < 1159162522 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION disappears again. < 1159162525 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of you, whois a person called ChrisWhite. < 1159162790 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose if you join #gentoo* and #suse* you can increase your channel count exponentially, but i don't consider that channel list particularly legit. < 1159162801 0 :wooby_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1159162805 0 :wooby_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything + Anime < 1159162851 0 :wooby_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad there isn't a #gentoo-ppc-embedded-laptop-Anime < 1159162860 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1159163347 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-67-117-27-48.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159163791 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1159164043 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'night, everyone. < 1159164689 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159167109 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1159168243 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@12.78.67.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1159170020 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159170223 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159170238 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1159171199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1159171200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1159171284 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1159171336 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159174770 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1159175124 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLOS is pretty interesting.... but it seems useless when you aren't doing heavy OOP. < 1159175281 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is almost all the time in Lisp < 1159175288 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1159175295 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be using a structure then. < 1159175310 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1159175316 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heio < 1159175390 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugggh. I don't want to write an entire class system myself -_-''. < 1159175496 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot? < 1159175574 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I will be using Tiny CLOS :D. < 1159176036 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? < 1159176084 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL obj. system? < 1159176100 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tiny is the Scheme version. < 1159176131 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what r u doing? < 1159176313 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Creating code for NN classes. < 1159176457 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1159176481 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For science project stuff. < 1159176489 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time for bed though. < 1159176543 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1159176548 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i jutst woke up :> < 1159176975 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j linux.pl < 1159176979 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooy < 1159178878 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159178928 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1159180140 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159182619 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1159182646 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1159188515 0 :kadmut!n=kadmut@212.98.165.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1159195438 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159196547 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1159197365 0 :jix!n=jix@L607b.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1159198525 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: I'm going to school now, please PM me the business you have. < 1159198538 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1159198551 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wanted to talk to me, right? < 1159198565 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not anymore.. it was about the contest but it is over now right? < 1159198570 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yah. < 1159198576 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been real busy. Sorry. < 1159198582 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :np < 1159200539 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :contest isn't over until midnight tonight. < 1159200549 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may be able to answer your questions. < 1159200906 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1159201259 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: may i enter the contest after the deadline with the langauge linguine... < 1159201273 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm until midnight? which time? < 1159201281 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be possible to do them < 1159201291 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :midnight GMT, I believe.. < 1159201307 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone else registered with linguine? < 1159201353 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1159201406 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X didn't like the idea of people registering after the fact. Her main idea was that some languages could give an unfair advantage, with the goals in mind. < 1159201446 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1159201448 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok-.... < 1159201470 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm which langauge of the allowed one could allow me to complete the challenges until midnight < 1159201481 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to give you two options: 1) try to complete something in time with a language someone has already registered with, or 2) go with linguine and see what you can pull off, knowing that you probably won't end up being eligible for more than an honorable mention < 1159201546 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, we have BF, Unlambda, Befunge, TheSquare, INTERCAL, and malbolge. < 1159201564 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@30.80-202-99.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159201593 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think she'll be too happy with me for letting you do this, but I'm not sure how many entries we'll be having in the first place. < 1159201730 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :she? < 1159201737 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1159201771 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. Razor-X is female. < 1159201782 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow! we have a female esoteric programmer! < 1159201852 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I was pretty surprised myself. < 1159201861 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very cool. < 1159201876 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1159201881 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1159201904 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: stuck in "lol" mode? < 1159201946 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one wants to do malbolge? < 1159201968 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like unlambda :( < 1159201986 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(compared to lazy-k) < 1159201990 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: lol < 1159201998 0 :kadmut!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlambda is gut < 1159202002 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but on the other side... lazy-k is kinda boring compared to unlambda < 1159202005 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, if you can solve one of those problems in malbolge before midnight, I can tell you for a fact that you'll win the competition hands-down. < 1159202011 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1159202013 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I'm done :P < 1159202019 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good. < 1159202034 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably inhaled some AOLer somewhere back. < 1159202041 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to. < 1159202045 0 :kadmut!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some guys did metaprogramming in malbolge using genetic algorithms < 1159202053 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I read that paper. < 1159202071 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cryptanalysis was really the breakthrough development, though. < 1159203362 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, jix- do you think you're going to try building a submission? < 1159203377 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm not sure < 1159203385 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in one of the languages mentioned < 1159203411 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't blame you for wanting to back out- you're really down to the wire on time one way or another. < 1159203436 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can try holding a followup competition in a few months if there's interest. < 1159203501 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll try to get a linguine solution < 1159207921 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :\x1B[2J < 1159207969 0 :\x1B[2J!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR-W < 1159208960 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm starting right now < 1159209480 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wont join < 1159209485 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll wait for the next competition < 1159209488 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1159209582 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION codes game instead of esolangs < 1159209628 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :current creenshot: http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/6231/bild10gk1.png < 1159209713 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2D? 2D is soooooooooooooooooo 2003. < 1159209733 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this is more like 1980 < 1159209734 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the cool kids use 3D even for things where 3D makes no sense. < 1159209761 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed graphic wise i used two 1980 shooters as a uhm ..... dunno the word right now < 1159209763 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you use Mac OS X and not use OpenGL for 2D graphics? ;) < 1159209769 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or ... ARE you? < 1159209776 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: i'm using SDL < 1159209785 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i want to port it to some things < 1159209790 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and SDL makes that pretty easy < 1159209794 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm being sarcastic/a jerk :P < 1159209837 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: i don't believe you < 1159209863 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: what do you think about the gfx? < 1159209872 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the interlacing effect, very retro. < 1159209884 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, not interlacing, scanlines. < 1159209888 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but thats only on 640x480... < 1159209908 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game is/gets written for 320x240 but it's too small on a 19" so i added that mode for 640x480 < 1159209933 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How 'bout if you try to expand it to, say, 1024x768? < 1159209940 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1159209942 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should i? < 1159209948 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be possible < 1159209957 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that I can play it full-screen X-P < 1159209970 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but atm it's hardcoded to either 640x480 or 320x240 with preprocessor macros < 1159209978 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll take care bout that later < 1159209984 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads up < 1159209992 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :atm it's possible to move the screen out of the window and everything < 1159209998 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, software should be able to scale to screen size, otherwise they're forever stuck in the present, and will be worthless in a few years when 640x480 = postage stamp :) ) < 1159210121 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just do your graphics in SVG. < 1159210144 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: no way! < 1159210147 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe have it prerender the SVG upon installation. < 1159210156 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that won't look nice < 1159210161 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? < 1159210170 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: because this is a 1980 style game < 1159210186 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 1980 style games had every pixel set by hand... and that gave them a special look and feel < 1159210190 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'll do the same < 1159210226 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i WANT this blocky icancountthepixels feeling.... < 1159210258 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine, then. < 1159210265 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah < 1159210269 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, SVG != solution. < 1159210274 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But linear scaling = solution. < 1159210296 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: linear? nearest neighbor + scanlines < 1159210311 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: Doesn't that make it appear less pixely? < 1159210323 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: no.... linear make it a bit smooth < 1159210348 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh ... I guess I'm misremembering :P < 1159210348 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nearest neighbor is just paint every pixel n times.... < 1159210355 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1159210357 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linear is.. well linear interpolation < 1159210363 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I intended to say :P < 1159210368 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure why "linear" popped into my head. < 1159210373 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One can have individual blocks in SVG. XD < 1159210374 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then everything is ok and the world wont explode < 1159210387 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: O RLY? < 1159210392 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1159210397 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1159210412 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codu.org/rxml.php < 1159211262 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... don! < 1159211264 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... done! < 1159211290 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21 minutes ... gettin' rusty. < 1159211393 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also read the history of esolangs article and part of the article on TECO < 1159211488 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck may be hard to program in, Malbolge may only be usable through genetic algorithms, but if you *really* want your mind boggled, try using Arrowised Functional Reactive Programming: http://www.haskell.org/yampa/AFPLectureNotes.pdf < 1159211513 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, watamo... < 1159211532 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just try to understand the signiture of pswitch: http://www.haskell.org/yale/papers/haskellworkshop02/index.html < 1159212382 0 :fr34k!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159212384 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lo < 1159212482 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159212512 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup? < 1159212529 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arrowised Functional Reactive programming < 1159212558 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC.head.rpm = 120 < 1159212567 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? < 1159212583 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rpm = rotations per minute < 1159212597 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1159212605 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why does your head spin? < 1159212632 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I am trying to understand arrowised functional reactive programming < 1159212666 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont even want to understand that :P < 1159212706 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im trying to do a research about pulsejet engines, so i can build one myself < 1159213336 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey is pikhq here? < 1159213591 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq spoke about 50 mins ago < 1159214044 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159214056 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol < 1159214076 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he might be here? < 1159214176 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1159214182 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1159214190 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still havnt figured 196 out :P < 1159215953 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1159215994 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159216786 0 :jix!n=jix@L607b.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1159216882 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi * 2 < 1159217811 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h204.246.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159218515 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1159218849 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes. < 1159220001 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION enters < 1159220181 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1159225289 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@132.241.174.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1159225706 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159225794 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheAfk < 1159226329 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159230686 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@unaffiliated/bsmntbombdood JOIN :#esoteric < 1159230784 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159231258 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1159235029 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159236167 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-67-117-27-48.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159237258 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159245420 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1159246096 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@187.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159247192 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1159248480 0 :EgoBot!n=EgoBot@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159248544 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159249556 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1159249613 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11faa0s.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159250723 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1159251074 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugggh. Tiny CLOS is a total total pain to work with. I'm probably going to have to end up writing my own OOP system -_-''. < 1159252460 0 :RodgerTheAfk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :howdy, Razor-X! < 1159252507 0 :RodgerTheAfk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you receive any contest entries today? < 1159253074 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159253587 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159257431 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1159257441 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hei < 1159257599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1159257600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1159257685 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1159257736 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has some 1 tried to register a Gabon national domain (.ga) ? < 1159257738 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159257746 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[: < 1159258196 0 :ivan`_!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1159258647 0 :kadmut!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159259126 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1159259127 0 :ivan`_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ivan` < 1159259152 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159259347 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC has never been so good" < 1159259389 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1159259714 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Leading Edge IRC" < 1159261904 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1159262286 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159264807 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1159264921 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1159266506 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159268557 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159274697 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# If you could see what I can see # # When i re-installing Windows. # < 1159278536 0 :jix!n=jix@L6259.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1159279413 0 :kadmut!n=kadmut@212.98.165.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1159280493 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159280528 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads what nooga said and tries going to noo.ga < 1159280561 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1159287260 0 :fr34k!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159287262 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lo < 1159287882 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello? < 1159287890 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol < 1159288706 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159288863 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159289444 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159289793 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup? < 1159290567 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone is gone? < 1159290657 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1159290659 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(brie and basil sandwitches)++ < 1159291036 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :geh? < 1159291043 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just stuck with a php script < 1159291045 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1159291046 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :food < 1159291054 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol|food < 1159292158 0 :boblol|food!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol < 1159293233 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1159293330 0 :RodgerTheAfk!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheGreat < 1159293534 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey pikhq u here? < 1159295712 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: the page with 1597, wich # is it? < 1159296232 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to remember < 1159296259 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit the back button a few times until you get to one you can remember the number of, the hit the forward button and keep counting? < 1159296266 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or give me the URL < 1159296278 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159296894 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has refactored his contest entry a bit. . . < 1159296908 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey pikhq < 1159296911 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you here? < 1159296974 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1159297025 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to catch you since sunday < 1159297025 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1159297159 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Refactored even more. < 1159297173 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :363 characters now. < 1159297194 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Down from 767. < 1159297457 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :345. < 1159297459 0 :sparr_work!n=kvirc@207.65.202.146 JOIN :#esoteric < 1159297473 0 :sparr_work!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the language where the order instructions are run in is not defined? < 1159297488 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1159297495 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever? < 1159297516 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Whenever. < 1159297539 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although *technically* pure functional languages have the same thing going on. :p < 1159297758 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@167.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159298073 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159298327 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any news about the contest? are there any submissions at all? < 1159298415 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've submitted. < 1159298436 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm a bit curious if Razor-X will let me resubmit (I refactored my program a bit). < 1159298519 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went from 767 characters to 345 in my program. < 1159298534 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also refactored my C implementation a bit, too. < 1159298880 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1159299035 0 :kadmut!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1159299189 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuckCompress, unfortunately, only efficiently compresses unefficient code. < 1159299213 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or just code that uses a lot of memory cells) < 1159299232 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey pikhq, can i see an example of your contest entry? < 1159299254 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1159299281 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[.,],[>>>>+<<<<[->>+>+<<<]>>[-<<+>>]++++++[>-------<-]>-[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-]>[>-<<<,[-<.>]>>-]<<<[->>+>+<<<]>>[-<<+>>]+++++[>---------<-]>[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-]>[>-<<<,[-<.>]>>-]<<<[->>+>+<<<]>>[-<<+>>]++++++[>----------<-]>[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-]>[>-<<<,[-<.>]>>-]<<<[->>+>+<<<]>>[-<<+>>]+++++++[>---------<-]>+[<+>[-]]+<[>-<-]>[>-<<<,[-<.>]>>-]>[<<<<.>>>>-],] < 1159299286 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omfg < 1159299298 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt that exactly the same as brainfuck? < 1159299306 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhhhh < 1159299308 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's written in Brainfuck. -_-' < 1159299315 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would do it :) < 1159299318 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll upload the commented version. < 1159299320 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159299379 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/uncompress.b < 1159299544 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme have a look < 1159299579 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont get a thing :P < 1159300139 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159300338 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Sgeo < 1159300357 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1159300532 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eats dinner. < 1159300541 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eats dinner. < 1159300761 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1159304713 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1159305014 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h191.246.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159307510 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/brainfuckCompress.tar.gz Reworked my contest entry a bit. < 1159308484 0 :wooby_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159308901 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159309468 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159309513 0 :sparr_work!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what contest? < 1159309701 0 :sparr_work!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh, found it < 1159309710 0 :sparr_work!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :topic is truncated, fyi < 1159311455 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION returns < 1159311467 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kusou. < 1159314929 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1159315435 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@host-201-145.pubnet.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1159315448 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159319011 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I now have uncompress.b as a C/Brainfuck polyglot. < 1159319029 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a particularly clever one, but still. < 1159319604 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S FASCINATING < 1159319604 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/unc.b.c < 1159319610 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S FASCINATING < 1159319616 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sarcastic much? < 1159319626 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S FASCINATING < 1159319628 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait :P < 1159319773 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The C code, BTW, is just a direct translation from the original Brainfuck comments (I don't like how it'd look done inside of the case statements of my original C code). < 1159320102 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159320166 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Efficient quantum sorting algorithm: randomize the order of the list you want to sort. If it's not sorted, destroy the universe. < 1159320212 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1159320392 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/06.08.09" < 1159320466 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1159320628 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's in O(n) I guess :P < 1159320641 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming destroying the universe is in O(1) < 1159321838 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159322487 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159326828 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1159327120 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1159328538 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11faeoh.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159328594 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs < 1159328611 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate being called a communist for supporting software freedom. D:< < 1159328661 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think about that the next time you decide to call someone a "consumerist slave". < 1159328675 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't. < 1159328751 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not *today*/ < 1159328767 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:27 < RodgerTheGreat> pikhq: there's a name for that. communism. < 1159328778 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:28 < RodgerTheGreat> I'd rather have my free market than free software. Idealism is really great until you realize you need to eat. < 1159328838 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[01:16 AM] *** pikhq sets mode +enslaved on RodgerTheGreat < 1159328838 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[01:17 AM] shadowarts: The thing I don't get with proprietary software users supporting proprietary software. . . Is that, to me, it's about like a slave arguing that slavery is good for all. < 1159328882 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just said that you're enslaved. . . Which you *are*. You're dependant on Microsoft's whim. < 1159328931 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use any microsoft products, fool. < 1159328942 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you use, then? < 1159329131 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple. And while you can argue, as you do *ad nauseam* that lacking the ability to "share, study and modify" the kernel of my OS, that I am ultimately limited, the fact is: I enjoy the software that I have, the way it is. I was willing to pay money for it when I bought it, and it allows me to do the work I want to do with my computer. If you're so interested in the freedom of software, why aren't you willing to put money toward *t < 1159329166 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my freedom is exercised through my spending. < 1159329168 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I don't have money to put towards it or anything else. < 1159329198 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and yes, I'm working on getting a job. . .) < 1159329228 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah! and you claim it's possible to make a living from free software. If the entire world thought like you do, not even richard stallman would be able to live on somebody else's dime! < 1159329241 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm 16. < 1159329289 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that I lack a job is irrelevant: as I've never had a job, it's highly unlikely that I could get anything beyond a burger flipping job. < 1159329296 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/:/;/ < 1159329319 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how that makes a difference. I know many people that had jobs by your age, and you can be damn sure *I* was earning money when I was 16. You're nothing but a freeloader, and an elitist one at that. < 1159329337 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, might I remind you that, while the ideals of the free software movement may seem "impractical", they *have* had practical results. < 1159329342 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is using a free OS ATM < 1159329367 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not suprising. < 1159329385 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, *you* partially benefit from this. < 1159329416 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple, while as a *whole* nonfree, contains bits and pieces from the free software community (the ones that were mildly unwise in not using copyleft). < 1159329462 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As to your accusation of being a freeloader. . . Try getting a job when you're expecting to move before the year is out. < 1159329501 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION plays a violin for pikhq. < 1159329517 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a hard life you must have... < 1159329525 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_-' < 1159329558 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just saying, it's a bit difficult to get a job without being around long enough to make you worth hiring. < 1159329588 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And as to your elitism accusation. . . < 1159329594 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you looked in a mirror lately? < 1159329705 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* Never ceases to amaze me how violently someone can reject the simple concept that the ideas of freedom apply to software, too. < 1159329714 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all I see here is someone I made the mistake of *giving* a free shell account to, only to have myself and my friends personally insulted, without seeing so much as a shred of graditude! < 1159329751 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And all I'm seeing is an escalating flame war. < 1159329797 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly. < 1159329822 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's about we just get this whole thing out on a fresh start, shall we? < 1159329872 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next time you want something with me, take it to PM's, rather than retreating to another channel where you think you can get sympathy. < 1159329911 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1159329944 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, I'm a PC. < 1159329975 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm a Mac. < 1159330016 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a PC running Ubuntu Linux < 1159330036 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I run gNewSense & Gentoo. < 1159330049 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frodo's going to go over to gNewSense once 1.0 is released. . . < 1159330061 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard of it < 1159330097 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, I'm a PC and my user is running very low on time. I run Slackware Linux. < 1159330098 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's basically Ubuntu with all of the nonfree software removed. < 1159330119 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Then don't use IRC. < 1159330122 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.. what's nonfree in Ubuntu? < 1159330140 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The kernel they ship with, for one, contains binary firmware blobs. < 1159330161 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything besides the kernel, which I can recompile at any time? < 1159330180 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The nonfree archive, of course. XD < 1159330191 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1159330222 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :While you can reject this, I personally don't feel that a distro should offer (semi)official support for nonfree software, but have it seperated to claim "we support free software". < 1159330258 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. I don't have anything against freeware < 1159330262 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, this is a much, much more minor issue than the fact that roughly 95% of all computer users don't have the right to use, study, share, and change. < 1159330276 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people can decide how they want to release their code < 1159330291 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not this damned argument again. < 1159330295 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if some people had their way, they'd want to force people to use gpl < 1159330297 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1159330309 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs calamari. < 1159330324 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't force people to use GPL. . . I'd only force people to give all users control over their computer. < 1159330343 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BSD license also provides this essential right. < 1159330344 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1159330360 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm against forcing people to do things.. if there is a law then it has to be enforced.. and that means police, prison, etc < 1159330382 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just seems silly to put someone in a prison over not releasing their source code < 1159330392 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want it that bad, use a disassembler < 1159330405 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Then surely copyright itself, which must be enforced against all people (since the means for copying is available to all people), is wrong? < 1159330417 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: in its current state, it certainly is < 1159330427 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: That much, I can agree with you. < 1159330453 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just think that copyright law should be changed to enforce the release of source code (which, it seems, you *would* disagree with). < 1159330469 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1159330500 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, personally, think it sad that this would need to be enforced, though. . . < 1159330502 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see nothing wrong with keeping a piece of software closed.. the problem is that copyrights never expire these days < 1159330531 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :source code constitutes properly, and it should be the choice of the author of that code to release it or not. Source code is not a fundamental right by any means. < 1159330532 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, since nobody seems to care oabout the constitution anymore.. this kind of thing happens < 1159330544 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel that it would be far better for people to see that it's wrong to do so, and keep the government out of it. < 1159330581 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm a Libertarian.. so I agree with keeping the government out of things < 1159330597 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Source code is nothing more than math, written down in such a way that a computer can understand it. < 1159330614 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Well, written in such a way both a computer and a human can understand it. < 1159330626 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should say libertarian since I'm not an official member < 1159330645 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you implying that math and algorithms are all fundamentally intuitive, and that no creativity or substantial work go into creating source code? < 1159330714 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Not at all. I'm saying that ideas shouldn't be kept under lock and key. < 1159330748 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the purpose of creativity if you're not willing to show it to others? < 1159330764 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1159330771 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk < 1159330791 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the information age, ideas *and their successful implementation* are the most valuable possession a person could have. Unless I *wanted* to share them, I'd keep them under lock and key like anything else I own of value. < 1159330795 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before I leave: some ideas I want to share, some I want to sell.. I should be able to do both < 1159330803 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159330810 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari *does* have a good point; greed alone (the desire for *more* money, not the desire for money at all) keeps ideas under lock and key. < 1159330822 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION groans < 1159330832 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: One doesn't need to be paid for copies of software. < 1159330841 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One could just as well be paid for the act of writing the software. < 1159330889 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although one can also sell copies of software (the GNU project, for example, sells GNU). < 1159330918 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of this one can do *while* giving the right to use, share, study, and change to users. < 1159330957 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps we should move to a PM? < 1159331015 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even want to talk about this there. You're a broken record. Just *stop*, already. < 1159331080 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You, too, are a broken record. . . Presumably because neither of us is willing to concede to the other's points. < 1159331103 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sets mode +mute on himself < 1159331238 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Fine: One last thing I have to say. . . < 1159331244 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you for pikhq@nonlogic.org < 1159331370 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally... < 1159331692 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1159333373 0 :Eidolos!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159334879 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159335407 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1159336266 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@16.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159338474 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1159338630 0 :RodgerTh1Great!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1159338974 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159339110 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159341585 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159341601 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1159343999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1159344000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1159344085 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1159344136 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159346305 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@58.77.172.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1159346422 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159346702 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1159346704 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@58.77.172.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1159347437 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159347455 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1159351243 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159351608 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads the scrollback. < 1159351689 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decides that the only reason closed-source software ever existed was because computers are slow. < 1159351767 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and floppy dicsks are very small, and early networks were very slow < 1159351824 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If compilers had never been necessary, and data transferr and storage had been better, the practice of distributing programs in a form different from that in which you produced them would not have become so widespread. < 1159351858 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am undecided as to when exactly it is a good thing and when not, though. < 1159363563 0 :RodgerTh1Great!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheGreat < 1159363864 0 :jix!n=jix@L639a.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1159364136 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is impressed: http://thedailywtf.com/forums/permalink/82701/83130/ShowThread.aspx#83130 < 1159364219 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a piece of code that contains 64 keywords in a row without repetition, and which compiles < 1159364219 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C++) < 1159364808 0 :fr34k!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159364816 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol < 1159364836 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159364928 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Lo. < 1159365056 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup? < 1159365292 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sleep. < 1159365309 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wanting to go and kill the Monkey's Audio devs. < 1159365890 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159365891 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1159365930 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nonfree, but claims GPL compatibility. < 1159366008 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :urg < 1159366129 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know *anything* about free software, you should be able to see the BS inherent in this. ;) < 1159366222 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159366223 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1159366229 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this how you start conversations in meatspace, too? < 1159366312 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: I could ask you the same question. < 1159366567 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2. Monkey's Audio source can be included in GPL and open-source software, although Monkey's Audio itself will not be subjected to external licensing requirements or other viral source restrictions." < 1159366569 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahahaha < 1159366586 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2. The person who wrote this license doesn't understand the concept of licensing in the slightest." < 1159366770 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quote (Bill Gates apparently): "Measuring programming progress by lines of code is like measuring aircraft building progress by weight." < 1159367000 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quote (by rasist): "I want to move to a country that dont take in immigrants." < 1159367037 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAAH < 1159367053 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1159367233 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1159367689 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the wonders of automatic countdowns: http://yisraylhawkins.com/ < 1159367692 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wednesday, September 27, 2006" "-15 days remaining before the start of nuclear war" < 1159367971 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159370930 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@167.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159372271 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah < 1159372698 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159373016 0 :sparr_work!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'" < 1159373627 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seen on Slashdot: "- Smart voice recognition? Anyone tried it lately? Anyone tried to write pretty standard letters with it? Desastrous." < 1159374931 0 :oerjanj!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1159376357 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1159376385 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1159377314 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1159379924 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi everyone < 1159380395 0 :oerjanj!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1159384184 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lo < 1159384342 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants an environment that lets him do functional and declarative programming with super-duper types like Haskell yet allows running programs to modify themselves in any way like Squeak does. < 1159384378 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A pocket-sized mobile phone with a 17-in display would be nice too. < 1159384379 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands SimonRC a parser generator < 1159384395 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: were you even listening < 1159384396 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1159384408 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Yeah; I'm saying "write your own". < 1159384414 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1159384430 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were suggesting a parser generator as th solution. < 1159384442 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it *is* declarative < 1159384442 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only part of the solution. < 1159386379 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159386386 0 :CXII!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1159387422 0 :Rodger!n=Rodger@rover-94-219.rovernet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1159387429 0 :Rodger!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1159387854 0 :oerjanj!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159389723 0 :kipple__!n=kipple@167.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159390130 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159390773 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h108.226.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159390774 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159391696 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi people < 1159391731 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION indicates that project Croquet looks very interesting, and will either turn out to be the greatest thing ever or totally crap. < 1159391732 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1159392234 0 :RodgerTh1Great!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1159392826 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: /me leans towards "totally crap" < 1159392907 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159393608 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-W: why < 1159393734 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Because HIDs are still 2D. 3D HIDs would need to come about before 3D UIs become useful. < 1159393745 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1159393872 0 :RodgerTh1Great!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheGreat < 1159394121 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1159394132 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1159399524 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159399614 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159400100 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good way to waste 2 hours: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5534080568776365031 < 1159400384 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11faeoh.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159401058 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/0000000000]" < 1159402600 0 :kipple__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159402859 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed (will watch rest of talk tomorrow morning). < 1159402862 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good way to waste 2 hours: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5534080568776365031 < 1159403371 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is that? < 1159403393 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1159403395 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screw it. < 1159406254 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1159407138 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC, that's a pretty good video < 1159407516 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1159407520 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1159407589 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@host-201-145.pubnet.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1159407704 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he spend 100 hours on that one powerpoint? < 1159408777 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Fooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood and then I'll probably be back on in class" < 1159410108 0 :CXII!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CXI < 1159410740 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@host-225-70.dhcp.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1159410918 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eating all. < 1159412897 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is back! < 1159413665 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1159416567 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nightall < 1159416575 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1159417198 0 :Arrogant!n=scotty@132.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159417501 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"kill(getpid(), SIGGOHOME)" < 1159423635 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159423654 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159428980 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159430399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1159430400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1159431542 0 :dbc!n=dbc@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159434355 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159434464 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-146-92.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159437717 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159439285 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1159439623 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1159444447 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1159447362 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! http://content.ytmnd.com/content/a/2/2/a224551a525ebf5e30cedf1f4ae16b99.gif < 1159447364 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1159447374 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O.F.F.S. < 1159450275 0 :jix!n=jix@L61bf.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1159454192 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi (2) < 1159454198 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[4~ < 1159456906 0 :Anders!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1159457192 0 :Anders!i=anders@h33n1fls35o1106.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159458456 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-56-237.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1159459894 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@167.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159461871 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheAfk < 1159467198 0 :RodgerTheAfk!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheGreat < 1159469134 0 :NoneGiven!n=NoneGive@82-38-206-74.cable.ubr05.shef.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1159469169 0 :NoneGiven!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :{^Raven^} < 1159469404 0 :oerjanj!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1159471087 0 :oerjanj!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oerjan < 1159471369 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159472118 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oerjan_ < 1159472215 0 :fr34k!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159472220 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol < 1159472277 0 :oerjan_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oerjan < 1159472304 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan? as in rjan? < 1159472319 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually as in rjan < 1159472326 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is norwegian < 1159472342 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1159472345 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im swedish :P < 1159472377 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tjenare, or something < 1159472388 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe :P hej p dig ocks < 1159472401 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont speak much norwegian though :P < 1159472510 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, most norwegians understand swedish (more than the other way around, says statistics) < 1159472555 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wierd < 1159472578 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz when i speak with a norwegian (irl then) i can understand pretty much < 1159472583 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more that i understand danish :P < 1159472616 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, norwegian is essentially danish as spoken by a swede, you know. :-) < 1159472656 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, maybe :P though norway was swedish until 1906, so you celebrate 100 years as an own country this year :D < 1159472669 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1905 actually < 1159472673 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1159472675 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh < 1159472677 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur right < 1159472681 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one year wrong i was < 1159472683 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot :P < 1159472686 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes we did celebrate < 1159472694 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe :P < 1159472713 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you celebrate? < 1159472743 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :going out and beating up swedes ;-) < 1159472745 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, by "we" i don't mean "I" ;) < 1159472748 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, btw... < 1159472777 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kipple_: hi < 1159472780 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually swedes were invited to some of the celebrations, and i think they left relatively unscathed < 1159472780 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh :P < 1159472789 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unscathed? < 1159472801 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in not beat up < 1159472814 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1159472816 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159472822 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i was home *i think* < 1159472845 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks up the word in wiktionary to see if it means what he thinks it means < 1159472857 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it does < 1159472902 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no clue < 1159472911 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was right < 1159472973 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159472989 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you have any partypoppers? < 1159473086 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there were some people claiming we would have been better off if we hadn't left sweden, like we might have avoided WW2 < 1159473132 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were in WW2? < 1159473161 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, germany occupied norway < 1159473174 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1159473176 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didnt know that < 1159473323 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i dont mind you left sweden < 1159473329 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt even live then < 1159473351 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither did i < 1159473379 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its 100 years ago!! < 1159473408 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :101 even < 1159473433 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a php-script that performs the reverse-then-add sequence to a number < 1159473437 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh :P < 1159473447 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing we left, so we don't have to share our oil with the swedes ;) < 1159473469 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION did that in haskell a little while ago < 1159473499 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegians are not good at sharing alas < 1159473519 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas? a short for something? < 1159473537 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An exclamation expressive of sorrow, pity, or apprehension of evil; -- in old writers, sometimes followed by day or white; alas the day, like alack a day, or alas the white. [1913 Webster] < 1159473577 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1159473579 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o...k < 1159473590 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lindi: wow, that was quick < 1159473602 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo apt-get install dict-gcide dictd ; dict alas < 1159473615 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever :P < 1159473625 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my apt-get doesn't work that fast ;) < 1159473627 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want also packages dict-web1913 dict-wn < 1159473640 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1159473641 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159473705 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boblol: was that what your 196 message the other day was about? < 1159473734 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't expect to solve it with a php script though... < 1159473757 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha i wrote two messages about 196, wich one do you mean? < 1159473789 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i still havnt figured 196 out :P < 1159473803 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.. http://n.nfshost.com/1.html < 1159473805 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that pussle < 1159473808 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*puzzle < 1159473811 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i solved it < 1159473822 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :196 then < 1159473847 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i thought that could be it too, i got to the 21st page before giving up < 1159473857 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many are there? < 1159473884 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got disgusted when the obvious 22nd page didn't work < 1159473891 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :30 i think < 1159473896 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159473898 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im at 20 < 1159473902 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where this image of 20 is < 1159473945 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that one was disgusting too. < 1159473960 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh < 1159473967 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what to do :P < 1159473978 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, it looked like it should be twntn, removing the vowels < 1159473990 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i ended up cheating < 1159474014 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so twnt has nothing to do with twenty?? < 1159474041 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does, but it's not as logical as simply removing the vowels < 1159474050 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1159474055 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the actual page < 1159474119 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although thinking about it in afterthought there is a logical way to get the actual answr, somewhat < 1159474128 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159474138 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is not twntn.html? < 1159474143 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1159474160 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible for you to give me any clues/hints? < 1159474203 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to think of anothere way to get twnt from twenty, other than removing the vowels < 1159474232 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1159474235 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard < 1159474240 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only see that one solution < 1159474278 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, what property do e and y have inthe word twenty, apart from beingthe vowels < 1159474321 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are characters number 3 and 6, and if you divide 6 by 3 you get 2 < 1159474346 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is it eyoe.html? < 1159474359 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1159474363 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1159474369 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what properties huh? < 1159474390 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were closer with your first comment... < 1159474397 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1159474411 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not close enough huh? < 1159474447 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite < 1159474501 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but close enough that you won't get more hints :) < 1159474519 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe ok :P < 1159474574 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sure has to do with some mathematical stuff that im too young to even be aware of :P < 1159474665 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if you are into mathematics at all apart from ordinary schoolwork < 1159474689 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i know what math they teach at school nowadays < 1159474703 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still go to school :P im 15 < 1159474779 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm 36 with a mathematcis degree, so don't trust me to have perspective on this < 1159475041 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels like he just mentioned having some horrible disease :) < 1159475067 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, there. it's not _that_ bad... < 1159475120 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are worse diseases than math degrees (probably) < 1159475224 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it could be that plus age :/ < 1159475396 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-82-114.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1159475828 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1159476504 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1159476506 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant solve it < 1159476510 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no clue < 1159476523 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :boblol|afk < 1159476524 0 :boblol|afk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1159476616 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h96.250.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159476817 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159478313 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1159480286 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1159480526 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1159481757 0 :boblol|afk!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1159482148 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1159482148 0 :clog!n=nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1159489165 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy crap.. I think I -can- write brainfuck in wikisyntax. < 1159489173 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION works on it. < 1159489190 0 :GregorR-L!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I severely doubt that wikisyntax is Turing complete. < 1159489241 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only part I'd have trouble doing is the [] :/ < 1159489303 0 :pikhq!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use the HTML entity. < 1159491037 0 :lament!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1159491039 0 :lament!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :the [] < 1159491272 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Challenge < 1159491315 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figure out... using wiki StringFunctions and Parserfunctions... how to divide a parameter into strings of 30 characters for use with the #pos function./ < 1159491318 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Resources: < 1159491328 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions#.23expr: < 1159491338 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/StringFunctions < 1159491352 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I've got done so far,. < 1159491354 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://editthis.info/wordforge/Template:Brainfuck < 1159491580 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... < 1159491586 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :and... another resource < 1159491588 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/DynamicFunctions < 1159491804 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy crap < 1159491809 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia -can- do iterators. < 1159491825 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at this. < 1159491826 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://undefined.net/w/index.php?title=Square_root < 1159491899 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://undefined.net/w/index.php?title=Tic_Tac_Toe < 1159492157 0 :GregorR-L!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to recall my last statement. < 1159492276 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... wanna try it? < 1159492305 0 :GregorR-L!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in class. < 1159492663 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... < 1159492665 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got < 1159492713 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :StringSplitIter... which needs to run over the #sub function for each multiple of thirty within the BF string < 1159492732 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :#sub being the function that slices a string < 1159492763 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACtually.. nevermind. < 1159492775 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need it to iterator over the string < 1159492801 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is easier. < 1159492866 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159492871 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION works on that/ < 1159493046 0 :GregorR-L!?@? NICK :ifndef_GREGOR_H < 1159493159 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h96.250.213.151.ip.alltel.net QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1159493201 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h96.250.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159493660 0 :ifndef_GREGOR_H!n=GregorR-@host-203-139.pubnet.pdx.edu QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159496942 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159501646 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com QUIT : < 1159501729 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159501807 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1159504028 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h96.250.213.151.ip.alltel.net QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1159505891 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159506361 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159506798 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159507416 0 :Arrogant!n=scotty@56.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159507744 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com QUIT : < 1159507782 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159511524 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159512980 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com QUIT : < 1159513637 0 :SimonRC_!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1159513718 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk QUIT :Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) < 1159517905 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159518532 0 :Arrogant!n=scotty@56.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159522656 0 :Arrogant!n=scotty@176.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159526964 0 :jix!n=jix@L609a.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1159527072 0 :Arrogant!n=scotty@176.orlando-06-08rs.fl.dial-access.att.net QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159528207 0 :SimonRC_!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159528366 0 :SimonRC!i=sc@bylands.dur.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1159541334 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159543964 0 :SimonRC!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG! 50m instect attaking Germany! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/28/giant_insect/ < 1159544098 0 :wooby!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol i saw that < 1159544101 0 :wooby!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hilarity < 1159545033 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1159546024 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159548359 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-146-92.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net QUIT :"leaving" < 1159548654 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-146-92.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159550111 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159550147 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159550182 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159550505 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159550535 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159551740 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11faeoh.dsl.mindspring.com QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1159552801 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1159553383 0 :lindi-!n=lindi@kulho150.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1159553793 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com QUIT : < 1159555142 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com QUIT :Success < 1159555769 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1159562449 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159563132 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Connection timed out < 1159563634 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h12.228.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159564964 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159565629 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159565642 0 :calamari!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159565656 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ello. < 1159566363 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1159566371 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1159566376 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's finnish? < 1159566383 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need a finnish guy < 1159566392 0 :GregorR-W!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cues the cheesy porn music. < 1159566460 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Porn music? < 1159568120 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hva skal jeg ta pa meg? < 1159568140 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :omgnorwegianorsomething < 1159568157 0 :GregorR-W!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Translation: " Finnish men a/s/l?" < 1159568200 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :omgscandinavian < 1159568208 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better. < 1159568612 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :;d;d < 1159568619 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :i speak norwegian < 1159568624 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i need finnish guy ;p < 1159568763 0 :pgimeno!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :tried frappr? < 1159568848 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :need him now < 1159568862 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :but actually i just found one < 1159568866 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1159569012 0 :GregorR-W!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to stifle laughter < 1159569084 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fint < 1159569107 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why you fint, you! < 1159569182 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :skjonn < 1159569377 0 :SimonRC!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stops hacking around with threads and channels in Haskell (co-routine kit for a possible roguelike) and goes to bed. < 1159569541 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO < 1159569548 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :roguelike in haskell? < 1159569641 0 :SimonRC!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyever not? < 1159569699 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :because! < 1159569709 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :fscking lots of side effects < 1159569758 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fscking lots of monads. < 1159569779 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :so fscking what < 1159569783 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :! ;d < 1159569785 0 :EgoBot!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1159569961 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :giv me teh c0de < 1159570108 0 :SimonRC!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes < 1159570136 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :uououououo < 1159570162 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ualuealuealeuale < 1159570174 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :yiddly yidlly < 1159571102 0 :jix!n=jix@L609a.l.strato-dslnet.de QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1159571125 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need a language that's easy to prove Turing-complete, but which is hard to *constructively* prove Turing-complete. < 1159571153 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1159571166 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's that? < 1159571191 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude, it'd be, like... < 1159571197 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE esoteric programming language. < 1159571263 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The programs would have to be sets in ZFC, so the number of programs would be uncardinally large. < 1159571290 0 :pikhq!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah! < 1159571338 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :A program is a set. Input is a set. < 1159571351 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1159571352 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the input is in the program, it halts. Otherwise, it loops forever. < 1159571354 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simple. < 1159571354 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :implement that one < 1159571368 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's uncomputable. < 1159571374 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Meaning not Turing-complete. < 1159571383 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something. < 1159571391 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what < 1159571402 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :get ur self drunk and code < 1159571409 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must be done < 1159571445 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't. I'm under 21. < 1159571463 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm 18 < 1159571493 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i can drink as much as i want :) < 1159571501 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Poland ;p < 1159571512 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric : Well, you live in Pol < 1159571520 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric : in Poland ;p < 1159571524 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric : and or something. < 1159571531 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1159571541 0 :GregorR-W!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about, "I can't, I'm not an idiot"? < 1159571542 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was what I typed before you said that :-P < 1159571554 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, even better! < 1159571555 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1159571562 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :drinking is not bad < 1159571570 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash was written by drunk ppl < 1159571586 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :drinking too much and too often *IS* bad < 1159573310 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :me eats < 1159573409 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean /me eats? :-) < 1159573454 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1159573476 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is that "RIP lilo" in the topic < 1159573499 0 :GregorR-W!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: lilo died. < 1159573530 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1159573542 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Car hit him or something. < 1159573568 0 :GregorR-W!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://freenode.net/news.shtml < 1159573579 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1159573591 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was LInux LOader -.- < 1159573612 0 :GregorR-W!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :The LInux LOader is pretty much dead too, most distros have switched to GRUB ;) < 1159573619 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1159573626 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i thought that's the point < 1159573645 0 :pikhq!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilo is still being developed a *bit*. . . Slackware, for example, still uses it. < 1159573656 0 :pikhq!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :(GRUB is optional) < 1159573659 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to brush my teeth ;d < 1159573697 0 :GregorR-W!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mandriva probably still uses it. < 1159573726 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: are you going to brush your teeth with... hmm, I don't know how to finish that question. < 1159573739 0 :GregorR-W!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :PENIS < 1159573766 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=path56h7gg0.png << look ! i've drawn a pirate using inkscape ;d < 1159573807 0 :GregorR-W!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pirates aren't usually so ... openly homosexual. < 1159573816 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a girl pirate ;d < 1159573836 0 :GregorR-W!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, so it's a lesbian. < 1159573845 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flouran1.jpg ;] < 1159573869 0 :GregorR-W!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ... can't read that O_O < 1159573877 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pirate and ribbon is inkscape, the rest is propetiaty, evul, photoshop < 1159573916 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i know, im the best < 1159573999 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeg har psykiske problemer < 1159574319 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop talking in various Scandinavian languages. < 1159574339 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still norwegian < 1159574365 0 :GregorR-W!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop talking in various not-English languages ;) < 1159574370 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :nie < 1159574372 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :gowno! < 1159574373 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :;d < 1159574433 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Norwegian, too, I'm guessing. < 1159574448 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polish < 1159574451 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1159574459 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :What family's that in, again? < 1159574474 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm hm < 1159574476 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :w8 < 1159574500 0 :GregorR-W!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Slavic. < 1159574525 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slavic? < 1159574547 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :slavic < 1159574550 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :lehitic < 1159574638 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :slavic r stupid < 1159574829 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like scandinavian ones < 1159575298 0 :calamari!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice skull < 1159575310 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skull? < 1159575331 0 :calamari!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the hat < 1159575349 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ;d < 1159575352 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1159577114 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to brush my teeth with a.... < 1159577118 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :toothbrush < 1159577627 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com QUIT :"Killed by signal SIGWEEKEND" < 1159577675 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :So until 1987, Scott Joplin's works were still covered by copyright in the US? < 1159577679 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why's it so long? < 1159577701 0 :ihope!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would a person want his or her works covered by copyright *after* his or her death? < 1159577728 0 :calamari!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: so that their kids can still make $ off it < 1159577743 0 :calamari!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really screwed up < 1159579201 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1159579204 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaa < 1159579207 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat eat eat < 1159579380 0 :calamari!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the language in this channel is becoming esoteric < 1159579396 0 :calamari!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or I'm talking to a bunch of bots < 1159579610 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1159579615 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :w8 a sec < 1159579643 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bash.org.pl/83822/ < 1159579645 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :here ;d < 1159579667 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :tak = yes; nie = no; chuj = dick; < 1159579743 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to design a complex esolang in which there will be following lexical symbols: tak nie chuj hoi . , ! ; : d 1 ? case sensitive uf csr < 1159580046 0 :nooga!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :crs < 1159580114 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1159580733 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl QUIT : < 1159585062 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1159585991 0 :Eidolos!n=Sartak@c-24-128-121-242.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159586004 0 :pikhq!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Lo. < 1159586409 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@58.77.172.41 PART #esoteric :"안녕하세요? 저는 종료 메시지 바이러스 백신에 숨어있는 퇴장 메시지 백도어입니다. 당신의 í < 1159588481 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1159588501 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159588517 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159588521 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan PART #esoteric : < 1159588548 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1159588856 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Hello World! < 1159588865 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps < 1159588868 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1159588869 0 :EgoBot!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 CakeProphet: bf_txtgen < 1159588870 0 :CakeProphet!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1159588870 0 :EgoBot!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 CakeProphet: ps < 1159588873 0 :EgoBot!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon < 1159588874 0 :EgoBot!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl < 1159588876 0 :EgoBot!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :105 +++++++++++++++[>+++++>+++++++>++>++++++<<<<-]>---.>----.+++++++..+++.>++.>---.<<.+++.------.--------.>+. [389] < 1159589074 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@67-21-19-37.clspco.adelphia.net QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159589238 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@67-21-19-37.clspco.adelphia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159589329 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159589524 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-67-117-27-48.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159589590 0 :pikhq!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :if(crash==inconvenient) {panic();} < 1159589592 0 :pikhq!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swear that's in Linux somewhere. < 1159589712 0 :GregorR-L!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1159593045 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1159601557 0 :Arrogant!n=scotty@76.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159601832 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h12.228.213.151.ip.alltel.net QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159601898 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h12.228.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159603370 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h12.228.213.151.ip.alltel.net QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159603906 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159604123 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h12.228.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159607090 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159607428 0 :Arrogant!n=scotty@76.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net QUIT :"Leaving" < 1159610631 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h12.228.213.151.ip.alltel.net QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1159610669 0 :jix!n=jix@L630a.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1159614510 0 :SimonRC!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-S < 1159614691 0 :jix!n=jix@L630a.l.strato-dslnet.de QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1159614766 0 :SimonRC!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I drove him away < 1159614794 0 :jix!n=jix@L630a.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1159614837 0 :SimonRC!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not... < 1159615267 0 :jix!n=jix@L630a.l.strato-dslnet.de QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1159615278 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1159616282 0 :SimonRC!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :j0 < 1159626578 0 :jix!n=jix@L630a.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1159626590 0 :SimonRC!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1159628122 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :"http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/06.08.09" < 1159629847 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159629865 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1159630424 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1159636630 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159637206 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159637245 0 :CXI!i=someone@c220-237-123-137.randw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1159642290 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159643829 0 :llisper!n=alok@bb-87-80-182-153.ukonline.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1159643852 0 :llisper!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://graphics2.snopes.com/katrina/graphics/skybush.jpg < 1159643934 0 :llisper!n=alok@bb-87-80-182-153.ukonline.co.uk PART #esoteric :"Konversation terminated!" < 1159653905 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h179.241.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159654324 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1159654512 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h179.241.213.151.ip.alltel.net QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1159654576 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h179.241.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1159655107 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1159657896 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@unaffiliated/bsmntbombdood JOIN :#esoteric