< 1158883210 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh dvorak. < 1158883216 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never been able to program in it though... < 1158883227 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dvorak is for losers who want to be "different" < 1158883233 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1158883297 0 :kipple_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"See you later" < 1158883522 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do winners who want to be different use? < 1158883545 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABCDEF. < 1158883568 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An alphabetically arranged keyboard? < 1158883637 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1158884711 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158884770 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to bed
< 1158884912 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158885010 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :AgentWhite < 1158886726 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! :) works. i made a bmp that shows as a picture, and if you run it as com it prints out the exact data of itself. thus, a quine. as well, it uses data part as a quine should, instead of reading the program directly from memory that dos probably would allow < 1158886736 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1158886762 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terrifying. < 1158886781 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheers. < 1158886788 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be more impressive if it were used as an x86 Linux ELF. XD < 1158886794 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1158886797 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :com files are teh lame. < 1158886800 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should work just fine on FreeDOS, though. ;) < 1158886816 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At LEAST a a.out or COFF binary. < 1158886826 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AgentWhite: even COM files that begin with the string "MZ"? < 1158886835 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is the string "MZ" actually nothing special? < 1158886847 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: MZ is .exe, isn't it? < 1158886927 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was annoying problem in the process of making it.. what i read was that microsoft itself defined that their bmp format should allow, for some reason, some header data larger than 40 bytes. but when i tried that it seems only the ms paint could open such picture, and paint shop pro and opera and so on, couldn't. i read that few programs ever adapted to that +40 header data thing, and so it is that even windows image viewer or whatever < 1158886959 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't support it :P < 1158886959 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, i had to use another way; i extended the data part by one extra byte, and increased the total size in bytes by one < 1158886969 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAILURE < 1158886972 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the only way to get an odd number as total size in bytes < 1158887010 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus get a jump instruction from the beginning < 1158887010 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EB xx < 1158887011 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MZ is the magic number for a DOS EXE, yeah. . . < 1158887027 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.com's don't have a magic number, do they? < 1158887037 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways, programs don't seem to care if there is extra 144 in the end of the file, as they all open it correctly < 1158887072 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :likely because the width and height are told in the bmp file < 1158887075 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought MZ was the magic number thing. < 1158887075 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if his befunge bmp-to-tga converter would open it
< 1158887080 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... oh. < 1158887082 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1158887096 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, i think there is something, wait. "BM" < 1158887111 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many "EXE" formats, though. . . < 1158887123 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, no :P < 1158887126 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all COFF-derived. < 1158887127 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got confused < 1158887134 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.com is just a raw dump, isn't it? < 1158887135 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"BM" is in bmp :P < 1158887137 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1158887138 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1158887141 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AgentWhite: That's the Portable Executable format. < 1158887149 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EXE < 1158887152 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got confused because i looked with hex editor to this pic:) < 1158887157 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: PE is based on COFF < 1158887166 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A raw dump can't really have a magic number :) < 1158887188 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raw dump? < 1158887214 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AgentWhite: But there are formats older then PE. < 1158887219 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: You could write a .com program by running a .exe program, stopping it, then cat /dev/mem > blah.com :P < 1158887245 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AgentWhite: The magic number MZ is used for DOS .EXE format. < 1158887255 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I thought DOS .exe's were based on COFF as well? < 1158887265 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Running an .exe program, then using cat and /dev/mem? < 1158887269 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What operating system is this? < 1158887278 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/doc/exe/ Does that look like COFF? < 1158887284 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: You can't /really/ do that XD < 1158887291 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: I'm just saying that a .com is basically a dump of memory. < 1158887312 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: OK, OK, sorry I don't know my esoteric/obsolete binary formats by heart :P < 1158887322 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AgentWhite: Wikipedia. < 1158887357 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(in DJGPP, the size of the stub and the start of the COFF image)" < 1158887364 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1158887375 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: All that DOS does with a COM file is load it into 0x0100 and jump to that address. Not very complex. . . < 1158887399 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AgentWhite: Argh. < 1158887456 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, OK, OK, I don't know my obsolete file formats, whatev ;) < 1158887475 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AgentWhite: Nor do I. < 1158887488 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AgentWhite: I use Wikipedia as a natural brain supplement; you should, too. :p < 1158887520 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Natural? < 1158887526 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://koti.mbnet.fi/yiap/stuff/quine8.bmp < 1158887529 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there it is. < 1158887593 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a very pretty picture :P < 1158887605 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't say it was :D < 1158887612 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it need that grey section to be grey? < 1158887675 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1158887684 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a grey section. < 1158887693 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it need to be grey? < 1158887721 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Keymaker understands what ihope just said, I need to relearn English :P < 1158887757 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this doesn't probably answer your question, but so much gray is because the pic has plenty of nops, so that it's dimensions would be large enough to make the byte-in-sizes value a JMP with large enough value < 1158887794 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't necessarily, but that'd require a lot changes to the program < 1158887795 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, can those nops be replaced with, say, a jump past all the nops and some data that would end up being a pretty picture? < 1158887803 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1158887809 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm not going to do that, at least not for a while, if ever :) < 1158887813 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't that output the thing with grey? < 1158887924 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agentwhite: well, you could replace the nops with something else, at least part of them, but you need also space from your picture for having the data part < 1158887992 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course, this code wouldn't work < 1158887992 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, in this program you can't just randomly change those nops < 1158888001 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1158888056 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ihope: i still can't what you're talking about grey :D < 1158888079 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*can't understand < 1158888100 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't matter :) i'll terminate for this evening. night. < 1158888118 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158888602 0 :AgentWhite!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"kill(getpid(), SIGGOHOME)" < 1158889802 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :iSpy < 1158889849 0 :iSpy!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1158891169 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/06.08.09" < 1158891857 0 :NamelessOne!n=TNO@220.178.25.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158893416 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1158894054 0 :NamelessOne!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158894696 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h245.225.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158894881 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh.... object oriented is so tedious. < 1158894925 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming in Java? ^^ < 1158895022 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No.. just... object oriented. < 1158895036 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's flesible and all, but it's so... tediooous.. < 1158895055 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check out Glass. < 1158896291 0 :dbc!n=dbc@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158896308 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION yawns
< 1158896360 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stabs pikhq in the face.
< 1158896386 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stab'(pikhq)=? < 1158896436 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any guess what homework I'm working on? < 1158896646 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English composition. < 1158896650 0 :NamelessOne!n=TNO@220.178.25.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158896693 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1158897816 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1158897931 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158898070 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158898714 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158900198 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@108.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158902072 0 :NamelessOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158904088 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158905329 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Leading Edge IRC" < 1158906248 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158906248 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158906249 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158906249 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158906256 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158906256 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158906256 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11faa0s.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158906256 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158908228 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158908228 0 :wooby!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158908229 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158908229 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158908252 0 :wooby!n=alan@cpe-66-67-50-81.rochester.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158908252 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158908252 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11faa0s.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158908252 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158909090 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1158909101 0 :jix!n=jix@L60b9.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1158910168 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1158911123 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1158911132 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@wads-5-233-121.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1158911999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1158912000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1158915791 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1158915978 0 :jix!n=jix@L60b9.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1158917090 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1158919745 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC has never been so good" < 1158919802 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158920252 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1158920252 0 :clog!n=nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1158921749 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-69-105-11-74.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158921803 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1158921806 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-69-105-11-74.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158923837 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1158924578 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1158924581 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@adsl-69-105-11-74.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158932209 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never. < 1158935530 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-141-199.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158936926 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h148.253.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158938882 0 :j1x!n=insecure@88.233.66.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158938888 0 :j1x!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158940093 0 :GregorR-W!n=gregor@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158940602 0 :fr34k!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158940991 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158941095 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one here? < 1158942103 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1158942702 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-130-85-79.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158942970 0 :boblol!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158943012 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi agan < 1158943015 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*again < 1158943393 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1158943787 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158944278 0 :boblol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158944649 0 :anonfunc!n=pimaniac@132.241.174.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158945310 0 :anonfunc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1158946429 0 :kipple_!n=kipple@30.80-202-99.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158950062 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh: newsquiz on radio 4 now. < 1158950083 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh: I don't care. < 1158950206 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's funny! < 1158950213 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION eats dinner
< 1158953929 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-cb3de155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1158954696 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1158955523 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158957132 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158958566 0 :jwest-!n=jwest@unaffiliated/jwest/x-422957 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158958582 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1158958594 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only binary operations are select and mingle. < 1158958599 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1158958628 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1158958654 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was talking to him about INTERCAL.) < 1158958694 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mingle is actually a useful operation for implementing a befunge interpreter < 1158958728 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of. INTERCAL's other restrictions get in the way a bit. < 1158958747 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge? how so? < 1158958786 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use Morton numbers for keys in a binary tree < 1158958795 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, I've yet to see a binary tree in INTERCAL < 1158958799 0 :jwest-!n=jwest@unaffiliated/jwest/x-422957 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158958815 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: some dynamic allocation would be necessary < 1158960204 0 :fr34k!n=fr34k@81-234-210-126-no118.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1158960206 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1158960232 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is pikhq here? < 1158960283 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite possibly, yes < 1158960333 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean; is he available? < 1158960391 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he last said something at 12:36UTC < 1158960444 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what is it now? < 1158960483 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:28 UTC. < 1158960490 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1158960517 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wich means its quite a small chance i get a hold of him? < 1158960588 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently he's idle for 1 hours, 57 minutes, 16 seconds. So probably, yes. < 1158960641 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you get the idle time from? < 1158960656 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my client, I do /wii < 1158960661 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1158960675 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In most clients, you can do "/whois " < 1158960694 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why two name? < 1158960697 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter argument (or is it the former?) is the server to ask from. < 1158960708 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So with ' ' it asks from the irc server used by . < 1158960725 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which replies with idle-time and away-message; servers further away generally don't.) < 1158960758 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my client (irssi) /WII is, by default, an alias for "whois $0 $0". < 1158960771 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In irssi, at least, "/wii" is a macro for "/whois $0 $0" < 1158960791 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey! you are a man/woman of taset < 1158960795 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*taste < 1158960868 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought irssi was the semi-standard irc client nowadays, having replaced ircii/epic for most people. (At least that's the case with people I know, which might not be a representative sample.) < 1158960945 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi is still CLI-only, though < 1158960967 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :correction: irssi is still text-mode-only, though < 1158960977 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION actually uses chatzilla :o
< 1158961001 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a GTK/Gnome interface included with the main sources at some point, but I guess it got a bit outdated. < 1158961118 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A GUI for irssi was one of their Google-Summer-of-Code projects. < 1158961128 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :real programmers telnet to port 6667 < 1158961214 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a telnet program written in < 1158961300 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't see any news as to what happened with the SoC projects. Or any news at all after May 2nd. (Back when cras was still writing irssi, at least one could get bugs fixed by privmsging patches; with this new dev-team I don't have that luxury, since I don't feel comfortable talking to strangers.) < 1158961395 0 :fr34k!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1158961435 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :epic is not replaced < 1158961446 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want gui xchat < 1158961474 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if irssi became gui, then i think its falling out on exactly why the project began even < 1158961475 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1158961500 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My experiences with X-Chat haven't been pleasant. (Although that's not quite fair; haven't tried it in years, it might have gotten better.) < 1158961523 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does have a rather clean backend/frontend specification, so one _could_ write a GUI without ruining it for people who don't want it. < 1158961533 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "It" here meaning irssi, of course. < 1158961580 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont like it either but seems they've implemented screen < 1158961583 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i might want to try < 1158961589 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats one big feature it was missing out on < 1158964074 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1158964119 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h137.225.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158964185 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@124.57.51.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1158965060 0 :jwest-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"nite" < 1158966329 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1158966899 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1158966923 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sense an operator. < 1158966949 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1158966967 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe my senses are broken. < 1158966992 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they're saying that fizzie did *something* recently. < 1158967010 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :About two minutes ago. < 1158967032 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now some over two minutes ago. < 1158967478 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :challange: get to the thirtieth page (which will tell you that you win). http://n.nfshost.com/1.html There are a couple of evil puzzels. And you will need to use other sites a couple of times, and some tools that any geek will have to hand (simple UNIX CLI stuff). < 1158967491 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to bed (good luck with the puzzles).
< 1158967535 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Challenge: Stare at the goatse picture, unflinching, for ten minutes straight. < 1158967768 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would scale it down to 1x1 pixels, but I think it would still be bad. < 1158967883 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That damn reddish pixel X_X < 1158968782 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1158968814 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@129.orlando-09-10rs.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric