00:38:23 -!- ivan` has quit (" Like VS.net's GUI? Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-"). 00:58:26 -!- ivan` has joined. 01:22:46 -!- GregorR-W has quit ("SIGGOHOME"). 01:23:48 -!- Sgeo has joined. 02:13:51 -!- User91 has joined. 02:14:03 -!- ihope__ has joined. 02:14:17 HELLO 02:14:31 Anyone there?? 02:15:04 Hellooooo 02:15:33 I have some interesting knowledge to discucc 02:16:28 I'm here. 02:16:35 Hello 02:16:59 This is the esoterics chat room yes? 02:17:15 Yep. 02:17:27 Unless you mean esotericism. This is about esoteric programming. 02:17:37 Are you a sorceror of some kind? 02:17:56 Ah, wrong place then 02:18:07 bye now 02:18:10 Bye. 02:18:13 -!- User91 has quit (Client Quit). 02:18:30 ...That was odd, eh? 02:18:39 Well, it's time to poof. 02:18:44 -!- ihope__ has changed nick to ihope|poof. 02:31:16 -!- ihope has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 03:21:49 -!- CakeProphet has quit ("haaaaaaaaaa"). 03:30:54 *Things that go against the channel rules* No, don't kick me out, PLEASE! 03:38:28 -!- Sgeo has quit ("Ex-Chat"). 03:41:49 -!- RodgerTheAFK has changed nick to RodgerTheGreat. 03:48:31 * pikhq comes back from his LUG presentation 03:49:39 What shady piece of data did you pass of as informative? 03:50:10 Esoteric programming languages, what else? 03:50:19 Did you give me as an example? 03:50:27 No. 03:50:32 Then you lose. 03:50:33 please say it wasn't just BF... 03:50:43 It wasn't. 03:50:50 Did you present Glass and INTERCAL too? 03:51:11 Glass, Dimensifuck, and OISC. 03:51:20 not a bad combo 03:51:23 Dimensifsck, of course :P. 03:51:30 Well, duh. Shameless plug. 03:51:48 in covering DF, you naturally explained it's BF underpinnings. 03:51:50 I shoulda been there to prove the 2-dimensionality of your topological space. 03:52:01 But of course. 03:52:39 Razor-X: Someone else did the same. "Well, can you go diaganolly? Move like a knight?" 03:52:45 Yay! 03:52:59 I'd describe his topology as more 3d- a tree structure consisting of arbitrarily large 1D nodes. 03:53:26 Well, the best way to do it would be to utilize a movement vector on a non-intersecting plane. 03:53:34 It sure as hell makes for some interesting coding, though. 03:54:01 yeah, but we have yet to see a code example that truly utilizes the language 03:54:08 's unique abilities 03:54:24 Yeah. 03:54:28 Need to get around to that. 03:54:52 OISC isn't really esoteric, because it has good potential. 03:55:01 If pipelined correctly, the processors can be insanely fast. 03:56:50 Yay. Time to crunch more vocabulary. 03:57:05 I don't think OISC itself is designed well for many tasks, but I'm certain a similar system could be implemented in an actual CPU. 03:57:47 It is. Especially with a paper on an experimental Sun pipeline I was looking at a while back. It was a bi-directional pipeline with a great small-hastle queue system. 03:58:23 interesting... 03:58:30 If implemented correctly, it could decrease the write operations drastically and theoretically use only 1 read operation for every register read for the first time from cache-memory. 03:58:38 well then- Reverse Subtract and Skip if Borrow FTW! 03:59:28 I looked into something similar and found that a 4 word instruction was best. Word 1 and 2 are used for the subtraction, if negative branch to Word 3, if not Branch to word 4. 04:00:06 all we need to do is devise a higher-level language that compiles efficiently to OISC and then implement a compiler. 04:00:26 The only problem with the design was A) The processor itself is so fast that the system does often depend on memory read time and B) The bus-width was a gynormous 32 bytes. 04:01:34 solve A with a fast, independent MMU and massive amounts of cache on-die. This wouldn't be too bad considering how much simpler an OISC core would probably be. 04:01:51 Yeah. That's the solution there. 04:02:00 But large, fast busses are a bit on the expensive side. 04:02:21 if they became popular, they'd eventually become cheap. 04:02:27 True. 04:03:11 I spent time and 600 pages researching on all of this so :P. 04:03:17 a simple core *also* means that it would be easy to make massive multi-core dies- such as an 8-core OISC chip or something. 04:03:47 But then the task-manager becomes a mess of circuitry. 04:03:56 yeah 04:04:08 Although what you can do is tack on a different core to each stage of the pipeline. 04:04:18 Plus each instruction has O(1) time. 04:04:42 you could go with something like the cell- a group of OISC parallel units with a more conventional CPU driving and feeding them. 04:05:00 ooh- use of "Big Oh" notation. 04:05:51 -_-;; 04:06:10 heh 04:06:47 500 words later I can read 8 pages of Japanese continuously. 04:07:00 nice 04:07:13 I want to round out some more today to read 2 more short pages. 04:08:13 See, if I had some Verilog examples, I would love to cobble an OISC processor. 04:08:18 I had a good layout in my head already. 04:10:59 well, if you ever write a chip design, I'll try to find something with an FPGA and build a compiler. 04:54:45 http://www.cafepress.com/donotputthebaby.70342340 04:55:07 I like. 04:55:19 rather expensive, though. 04:55:26 Yeah :( 04:59:17 it's a fascinating concept, though. 05:10:07 for anyone interested, a wordcount analysis (still working on weeding some crap out) of the leaked AOL search data 05:10:11 http://www.rafb.net./paste/results/sCVfnD13.html 05:16:50 I refer you all to this grim harbinger of the doom of the human race: 05:16:52 16549 : myspace 05:16:52 16511 : sex 05:17:04 myspace- better than sex? 05:17:13 god, I hope not. 05:32:38 XD 05:37:59 -!- lindi- has joined. 06:02:57 ok, here's a similar thing, returning the most popular complete searches (remember, we're stripping case) 06:03:00 http://www.rafb.net./paste/results/LsjrLN85.html 06:06:51 G'night (or morning) everyone. 06:06:58 -!- RodgerTheGreat has quit. 06:59:21 I wonder if there is an AOL keyword "porn" :P 06:59:26 "Welcome to Porn@AOL!" 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:18:02 -!- nooga has joined. 08:18:16 uu 09:41:11 -!- thematrixeatsyou has joined. 09:41:40 09:42:47 ó 09:45:02 Baa, badassed areas! 09:45:02 Jarheads' arses 09:45:02 queasy nude adverbs! 09:45:02 Dare address abase adder? *bares baser dadas* HA! 09:45:02 Equalize, add bezique, bra emblaze. 09:45:03 He (quezal), aeons liable. Label lilac "bulla," ocean sauce! 09:45:05 Ends, addends, 09:45:07 duodena sounded amends. 09:45:09 i love that one 10:09:51 -!- nooga has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 10:25:38 how do you program a turing machine? i think i know but please email me at thematrixeatsyou@yahoo.co.nz - going to bed now so ciao 10:25:40 -!- thematrixeatsyou has quit. 10:49:23 -!- mtve has quit ("Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.0.5"). 10:49:53 -!- mtve has joined. 10:55:15 -!- ivan` has quit (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The future of IRC"). 12:43:47 -!- tgwizard has joined. 13:25:05 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 13:33:46 -!- pikhq has quit (Nick collision from services.). 13:33:49 -!- pikhq_ has changed nick to pikhq. 15:03:49 -!- CXI has joined. 15:38:55 -!- RodgerTheGreat has joined. 15:39:16 howdy. 15:42:22 5aluton. 16:01:20 5 = s? 16:01:27 -!- ihope|poof has changed nick to ihope. 16:01:35 Well, then, h3llo. 16:02:08 My brain has left my body now that my LUG presentation is in the past. 16:03:04 An OOBE? 16:05:02 I dunno. 16:10:17 -!- GregorR-W has joined. 16:11:32 Hey, Gregor. 16:11:49 People at my LUG think you're crazy now. ;0 16:11:51 s/0/)/ 16:12:06 *shock* 16:12:20 They also think I'm crazy, so. . . 16:12:41 "Windows 5X more expensive then OS X", according to Digg. . . 16:13:10 Apple computer 10x more expensive than IA PC clone according to anyone with a brain. 16:13:11 OS X is ooX more expensive than Linux. ;) 16:19:13 ooX? 16:19:45 oo == infinity. 16:23:20 pikhq can't type ∞ :) 16:24:01 Can't see it, either; no UTF-8. 16:24:13 Loooooooooooooooooooooooser 16:24:29 Just need to get off my ass. 16:24:40 Stupid donkey. :p 17:02:02 -!- GregorR-W has changed nick to c_plus_plus_rawx. 17:20:17 -!- c_plus_plus_rawx has changed nick to GregorR-W. 17:42:06 -!- rtwobitspite has joined. 17:56:45 -!- tgwizard has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 18:02:11 -!- smokecfh has joined. 18:28:09 -!- ihope has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 18:37:24 -!- tgwizard has joined. 19:03:11 -!- Sph1nx has joined. 19:04:59 -!- Sph1nx has left (?). 19:05:33 -!- Sph1nx has joined. 19:11:04 -!- jix_ has joined. 19:16:32 -!- jix_ has quit ("Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht"). 19:16:34 -!- jix_ has joined. 19:24:06 -!- nooga has joined. 19:24:16 najazd zlych mocy! 19:24:24 ARRR 19:24:28 SPEAK ENGLISH 19:24:29 :P 19:25:20 it was almost english 19:25:41 only "eng" section was changed to "pol" 19:26:05 "invasion of bad forces" ;] 19:49:38 -!- jix_ has quit (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 19:49:38 -!- sekhmet has quit (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 19:49:49 -!- jix_ has joined. 19:49:49 -!- sekhmet has joined. 20:05:21 -!- sphinx_ has joined. 20:06:03 -!- sphinx_ has quit (Remote closed the connection). 20:12:29 -!- Sph1nx has quit (Connection timed out). 20:16:19 -!- Sph1nx has joined. 20:20:48 GregorR-W: what r u hacking currently? 20:54:24 l;/ 20:55:32 i r not hacking english roflcopter 20:55:38 Primarily DirectNet. 20:55:42 Protov2 is so close I can smell it. 20:56:05 !? 20:56:08 Huh? 20:56:11 lol 20:56:18 -!- ivan` has joined. 20:56:20 !EgoBot interprets everything that starts with a ! :P 20:56:20 But what exactly *IS* protov2? 20:56:24 * EgoBot interprets everything that starts with a ! :P 20:56:32 It's the second version of the protocol ... 20:56:36 proto v2 20:56:45 It has many, vast improvements. 20:56:53 Including reduction of search complexity to O(logn) 20:57:10 But what exactly *IS* english roflcopter? :D 20:57:47 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 20:57:48 X_X 20:57:58 But what exactly *IS* CakeProphet? 20:58:03 But what exactly *IS* 20:58:05 ;d 20:58:41 >.> 20:59:20 I am a being of no realities... of basket fruit that has none... of grapes and oranges and delictable punishable wafers... of annoying silence and calming cacophony. 20:59:44 But what exactly *IS* annoying silence? 21:00:16 ^o``. 21:00:22 TTQAQ 21:00:36 ^v`^^ 21:02:44 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 21:03:13 aaaa 21:03:16 he's gone 21:04:30 Gee. 21:04:32 I wonder why. 21:04:53 But what exactly *IS* No route to host? 21:05:34 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 21:05:52 But what exactly *IS* /ignore *!*@*.rev.inter-c.pl 21:06:42 feel free, i've got bilions of shell accounts all over the world :> 21:09:55 sniff 21:12:45 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Nick collision from services.). 21:12:58 !cat < pikhq> EgoBot has t3h cat. 21:13:02 < pikhq> EgoBot has t3h cat. 21:13:03 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 21:13:18 !EgoBot never forgets ... except when it does. 21:13:22 * EgoBot never forgets ... except when it does. 21:14:27 !glass {M[m(_o)O!"I always forget."(_o)o.?]} 21:14:30 I always forget. 21:16:25 !ps 21:16:28 3 pikhq: ps 21:17:47 !daemon glacat glass {M[m(_i)I!(_o)O!(_i)i.?/(_o)o.?(_i)i.?\]} 21:17:51 !glacat Testing. 21:18:04 You have no condition for your loop. 21:18:09 Again. 21:18:14 Or rather, what you have as a condition is unlikely what you intended to be a condition ;) 21:18:53 !daemon glacat glass {M[m(_i)I!(_o)O!(_l)<1>=/(_l)(_o)o.?(_i)i.?\]} 21:18:57 !glacat Testing. 21:19:12 !ps d 21:19:20 !undaemon glacat 21:19:30 I killed it? 21:21:39 >_< 21:22:12 -!- EgoBot has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)). 21:22:27 Should come back in a min 21:22:42 I've got it down to an art. 21:22:44 -!- EgoBot has joined. 21:22:55 * pikhq refrains from killing EgoBot in the future 21:23:11 Whoops, one sec ^^ 21:23:13 -!- EgoBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 21:24:06 -!- EgoBot has joined. 21:37:13 -!- CakeProphet has quit (No route to host). 21:56:22 oooo uuu ooo uuu 21:56:55 is it a bad idea to compile glass to JVM bytecode? :D 21:58:46 As I recall, somebody was actually working on that. 21:58:59 A long time ago in a galaxy far far awayl 21:59:58 how abous CIL ? 22:00:01 about* 22:00:18 fizzie was doing Java bytecode it seems. 22:00:20 Nah, nothing on CIL. 22:00:53 why not use Mono 22:01:21 Because I had intended on not getting sued by M$. 22:01:45 bah 22:02:09 Also because C# sucks. 22:02:37 there will be glass instead of C# 22:02:54 lol 22:14:27 yeah 22:26:55 I was, but then I got distracted. 22:27:47 Glass to Brainfuck! 22:29:38 hm. 22:38:44 fizzie: why? 22:39:38 ah nvm g2g 22:39:42 bye 22:39:54 -!- nooga has quit. 22:41:20 -!- jix_ has quit ("Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht"). 22:42:00 -!- smokecfh has quit (Remote closed the connection). 22:42:49 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 22:59:58 -!- Sph1nx has quit ("Bye-bye =]"). 23:05:49 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 23:06:34 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 23:46:11 So... I've got the greatest idea in the world... 23:46:25 Check this bit of code out. 23:47:01 If lol != False: 23:47:03 lol = True 23:47:56 nice syntax 23:48:06 Syn....tax? 23:48:08 reminds me of BASIC 23:48:12 It's Python. 23:48:21 in fact, it IS valid BASIC 23:48:24 What? Are you using a version of bools which has three choices? 23:48:32 Yup. 23:48:34 It's psuedo-Python. 23:48:38 * CakeProphet shakes his head. 23:48:40 No.. 23:48:43 It works in Python. 23:48:50 If shouldn't be capitalised. . . 23:49:00 In Python the true and false are capitalize. 23:49:07 d 23:49:19 Makes sense to me... 23:49:29 But not if. 23:49:34 oooh 23:49:38 Yeah... didn't notice that. 23:50:09 I'm waay too comfortable with Python... any other language's syntax makes me cringe. 23:50:59 Python + end block keyword = nice syntax. 23:51:03 Python as is = painful 23:51:23 -!- tgwizard has quit ("Leaving"). 23:52:22 end block keyword? 23:52:25 You mean like }? 23:52:56 Eh... it probably just makes sense to me because I'm used to it... indent is way easier to read than all those ugly braces ^_^ 23:54:07 I have no problem with the indentation. 23:54:17 Only that you can end an arbitrary number of blocks with no keywords or symbols.