< 1155168207 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope` < 1155168229 0 :ihope`!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihopr < 1155168232 0 :ihopr!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1155169428 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1155169603 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically it's a big conspiracy to op everyone but me. < 1155169647 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION curses at the missed oppoprunity < 1155169655 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opportunity, even. < 1155169699 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bug RodgerTheGreat < 1155169707 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now you're the only one who can't have ops on ##quantum. < 1155169714 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everybody else can. < 1155169746 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome. < 1155170036 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, now you can have ops again. < 1155170205 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : so type /stats p and find and /msg a staff member < 1155170212 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=== p nalioth (i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth) < 1155170218 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=== p 1 staff member < 1155170223 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... why is Nalioth here...... < 1155170224 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooh. < 1155170255 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is he gonna enter the contest? < 1155170272 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1155170281 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesemuh Powah. < 1155170300 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same stuff as that at rot13.com? < 1155170308 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1155170333 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"awesoma powa!" < 1155170344 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never been to rot13.com. < 1155170360 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just speaking Engrish. < 1155170436 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1155170505 0 :GregorR-W!n=chatzill@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1155171006 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h23.242.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1155171030 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves. < 1155171067 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAIL THE MIGHTY CAKE!!! < 1155171069 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also hi. < 1155171076 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves. < 1155171089 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got an extremly rogue idea for an esolang :D < 1155171092 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er... rough < 1155171103 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that... I have no idea what it's going to do... but I have a theme in mind < 1155171104 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*snaps*, I was hoping for a rogue-like esolang ;) < 1155171133 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go on. < 1155171152 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The current "code name" for my esolang/rough-idea-that-has-no-actually-implementation-of-any-sort-at-the-moment is "CookieJar" < 1155171224 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first statement that popped into my head was "who took cookies from cookiejar" which... I have no idea what that'll actually do... but I'm pretty sure "cookiejar" is an array... while "cookies" is used to refer to any of the items in the array... while who is a wildcard for anything... < 1155171227 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs. < 1155171234 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very rough at the moment ^_^ < 1155171294 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's quite rough :P < 1155171317 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the idea for some reason though. < 1155171320 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a shelf is an array of cookie jars? < 1155171330 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION boggles, "Good idea." < 1155171332 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a store is an array of shelves! < 1155171341 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woohoo! < 1155171343 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there could be a "mother" and "children"... which... would do something. < 1155171355 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs. < 1155171362 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As you can see... I've thought long and hard on this one. < 1155171370 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1155171427 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well let's see... mothers fill cookie jars... which could be bytes or something... and then children take cookies from it... which is removing cookies... not sure how the bytes interact in a way to form usable code though. < 1155171437 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :お母さん!永遠に見付けたかった、けど今見付ける。一勝に、世界を持つ!!!! < 1155171469 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to make another brainfuck copy but with cookie jars instead of bytes in an array :D < 1155171479 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awwww. < 1155171486 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that idea could be mapped out to a brainfuck-esque design ^_^ < 1155171489 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least will you destroy all creativity by making this a turing tarpit? < 1155171507 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1155171507 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1155171511 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1155171519 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads the logs < 1155171551 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er... well... I want it to be readable... and be useful and not with only 2 elements.. soooo.. < 1155171561 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tarpit this is not... _|_ >.< _|_ < 1155171572 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bottom bottom? < 1155171648 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1155171662 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_|_ = bottom. < 1155171690 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1155171715 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1155171734 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the ASCII version of the up tack, which represents the bottom type, I think. < 1155171744 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the value bottom, or... < 1155171751 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Value, IIRC. < 1155171777 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but there's also a bottom type, and I think that can represent it as well. < 1155171800 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway: cookies are stored on the hard drive, and they persist between sessions. Users may clear cookies at any time, and they may set any of many restrictions on setting and getting cookies. < 1155171820 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some users disable cookies entirely, as they can be a privacy risk or something. < 1155171845 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we calculate pie to a billion places? < 1155171874 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1155171880 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pie in a billion places? Sure, just get one in every six people to bake pie. < 1155171911 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I think I'm going to write a programming language entirely in Whenever. < 1155172161 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... < 1155172167 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is BF the only esoteric language that's better compiled than interpreted? :-) < 1155172169 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CookieJar would probably work best for event-based crap... < 1155172311 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Who stole cookies from cookiejar" "IRCtext stole cookies." "Who me? Yes you!" < 1155172327 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1155172337 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of those being some sort of conditional statement. < 1155172441 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such a concept would be good for IRC bots in the current idea I've got. < 1155172452 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or anything that relies on events *nodnods* < 1155172545 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody oughta make a language whose syntax is English grammar, but where the apparent meanings of sentences aren't any indication of what they actually do. < 1155172576 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So "colorless green ideas sleep furiously" might mean "increment register C, then jump to the contents of register G". < 1155172734 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.2/0000000000]" < 1155172767 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can only code in Python... so... < 1155172781 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thinking outside of the same old boring types of languages is a bit diffciult for me :D < 1155172796 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1155172806 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did somebody want ops? Razor-X? < 1155173072 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Op EVERYBODY! < 1155173529 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm.. Grabity looks neato. < 1155173532 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er... < 1155173534 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gravity. < 1155173725 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ihope < 1155173733 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o Razor-X < 1155173749 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o GregorR < 1155173759 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o pikhq < 1155173811 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+oooo bsmntbombdood CakeProphet clog cmeme < 1155173813 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+oooo CXI EgoBot fizzie ivan` < 1155173814 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+oooo lament lindi- mtve pgimeno < 1155173816 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+oooo puzzlet sekhmet SimonRC sp3tt < 1155173817 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o tokigun < 1155173820 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1155173849 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1155173895 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks. I was too lazy to type all that. < 1155173899 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm..thinking up a language that doesn't follow the conventional... uh... practical languages is kind of difficult... for me anyways < 1155173906 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1155173914 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that makes three channels with all members opped. < 1155173923 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome. < 1155173927 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: tab completion ftw, as they say... < 1155173941 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still too lazy < 1155174093 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... does everyone else hate functions just as much as I do? < 1155174123 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what sense? Implementing interpreters with them, using them... ? < 1155174171 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate defining them :D < 1155174178 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functions? < 1155174182 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1155174187 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical functions or imperative functions? < 1155174222 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love using -other peoples- functions.. for stuff like string manipulation and otherwise-much-longer-blocks-of-code stuff.... < 1155174230 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming language... er... functions? :? < 1155174249 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm far too lazy to make my own... and they almost never work. < 1155174251 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are different kinds of functions used in programming. < 1155174271 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell uses mathematical functions, but pretty much everything else uses imperative ones. < 1155174278 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing imperitive functions... but I hate math... so math functions probably suck even more. < 1155174278 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION likes methods. < 1155174308 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a programmer that hates math... oh dear... < 1155174337 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematical functions are just special imperative functions, namely ones that don't do anything except compute an answer and give it to you. < 1155174366 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So an input function isn't mathematical, because asking the user for something isn't computation. < 1155174389 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :math != programming. programming *can* be about math, but it's really a pretty different thing. < 1155174414 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I agree. < 1155174423 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much different... otherwise I'd hate programming. < 1155174486 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming = computer science = math. >:-) < 1155174513 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong. < 1155174527 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the branch of math closest to CS is formal logic. < 1155174531 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately I'm a n00b h4x><0R that doesn't do much but simple stuff with Python. < 1155174580 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought of computer science as a mathematical thing. < 1155174589 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's definitely not a science :-) < 1155174610 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really have any formal training at all. < 1155174620 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just taught myself Python... basically. < 1155174680 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least you started with a real language- I taught myself QBASIC. < 1155174706 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I use Java and RealBASIC for most things, although I've been getting into PHP. < 1155174742 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Formal training would be nice. < 1155174817 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my dad taught me Pascal, then I tried to learn C, then he tried to teach me Java, then I learned Haskell, then I looked at Python. < 1155174832 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all the non-esoteric languages :-) < 1155174887 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my first functional-programming-language-like thing was lambda calculus, then my first actual language was probably Unlambda. < 1155174906 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I took a look at Lisp, and somehow landed with Haskell. < 1155174913 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-+ < 1155174939 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... < 1155174946 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate functional programming... < 1155174949 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1155175001 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody uses functional languages. < 1155175009 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't Java the big thing? < 1155175036 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like imperitive languages... which probably isn't suprising. < 1155175044 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I've skimmed the surface of OO < 1155175061 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need a language that has every feature. < 1155175093 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could build it out of Python... just to give it insane memory demands :D < 1155175193 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd probably have to be dynamically typed, since static languages are more restrictive. Let people declare or infer types if they want to. < 1155175213 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a dream... a vision of sorts... < 1155175261 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to create the most memory using language in existence.... so needlessly complex and unstructured that it makes absolutely no sense. < 1155175285 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everybody wants to make the most esoteric language ever, hon. < 1155175296 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Malbolge isn't it. < 1155175313 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But all those sissies with their super-brainfucks... and small compilers... pfft... that's not esoteric anymore. < 1155175352 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now we need giant behemoths of insane complexity. < 1155175367 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We simply need to pack everything into one language, then insanify the syntax. < 1155175428 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To make it practical, we'd need the basics from every assembly language there is. < 1155175445 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'd have to invent a platform for it, of course. < 1155175458 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1155175470 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or we could just build it off of Python... and give it insane memory usage. < 1155175473 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem solved. < 1155175476 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'd call it the G platform, and it would run G machine code compiled from G assembler. < 1155175508 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... but I wanted to call it Surrealomancerplexocitope. < 1155175511 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since every program would be a virtual machine, every program would need to have an operating system built in. < 1155175522 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And G is just a... well, it's changeable. < 1155175542 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm.. < 1155175554 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the idea of setting "otpions" for the code itself before coding... < 1155175555 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1155175568 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, lemme do this BRB thing that everybody's talking about. < 1155175579 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say you need dynamic typing and some object oriented for this task... then you could change some paramiters in the interpreter/compiler to make it run that way. < 1155175864 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh... Spaghetti sounds like a cool language. < 1155175870 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's something I'd like to do... < 1155175985 0 :ihope_!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1155176065 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So typing wouldn't really be necessary. < 1155176073 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose we could make users implement it. < 1155176119 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything could be done via telepathy. < 1155176136 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the key here is to minimize reusability and make things hard to write in general. < 1155176162 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION likes lack of structure, intuition-ish-ness, and ease-of-use in his code. < 1155176181 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, if we're to add everything to the language, we'd have to include reusability. < 1155176184 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not nessicarily ease of reading. < 1155176208 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is lazy. < 1155176227 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the goal here? Is it to make programs that are very nice and readable but necessarily huge? < 1155176251 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know... a very readable 100000-line "Hello, world!" program that actually requires 100000 lines. < 1155176285 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at INTERCAL then. < 1155176292 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's readable? < 1155176300 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1155176312 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope.. < 1155176316 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a lack of structure, intuition-ish-ness, and easy-of-use. < 1155176325 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screw readability.. I just like being lazy in a hugely complex environment. < 1155176329 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus it does not nessicarily have ease of reading. < 1155176336 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Misspelled on purpose.) < 1155176380 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. You can screw readability if you want. < 1155176385 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1155176395 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X is my translator. < 1155176398 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1155176404 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1155176411 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the goal here seems to be "to create the most memory using language in existence.... so needlessly complex and unstructured that it makes absolutely no sense." < 1155176426 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean Perl.... er hmmm. I need to think on that. < 1155176438 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh. Perl. < 1155176445 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But absolutely not yucky, like Perl is :-) < 1155176445 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you mean a marriage between Perl and Java, actually. < 1155176449 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl is annoying to type... < 1155176463 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Memory hogging and complex and unstructured! < 1155176465 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My passwords are all annoying to type ;-) < 1155176474 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is very ambiguous and self-contradicting. < 1155176485 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is enjoying something without all of you right now. < 1155176497 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gotta be gone in ten minutes, by the way. < 1155176500 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So uh, make sure to read the Esolang Contest wiki page. < 1155176506 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :さようなら、皆! < 1155176529 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... I think binary is the most esoteric of languages. < 1155176540 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Binary is a language? < 1155176545 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is niow. < 1155176545 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you program in binary? < 1155176555 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean opcodes? < 1155176556 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if it were a language... it would be esoteric :D < 1155176568 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh.... jah........ < 1155176586 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't code in binary... that's what makes it so esoteric. < 1155176590 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^ < 1155176600 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :マリア様が見てる ~春~ < 1155176624 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've temporarily immortalized this goal of ours in my quit message. < 1155176629 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And with that, I'm off. < 1155176630 0 :ihope_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Our goal: "to create the most memory using language in existence.... so needlessly complex and unstructured that it makes abs < 1155176659 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*が始めます。静かになってくださいながら、私は楽みます。ありがとうございます皆さん。 < 1155176714 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION enjoys not making sense. < 1155176977 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1155177662 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOh I think... I understand now what I meant to say. < 1155177676 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant extremly confusing to read... but extremly intuitive to type up. < 1155178965 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... I wonder what would happen if you mixed Perl with Python... < 1155178978 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a lot of stuff I like in Python... but Perl's nifty as well... hmmm < 1155179020 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get Ruby. < 1155179057 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about COBOL? < 1155179110 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what you get when you mix Bush x Chamberlain goodness (aka English) with (Insart Horrible Thing). < 1155179207 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes. < 1155179223 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Insert < 1155179329 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a thought occurs- what do you think about making a language whose semantics are based on the fact that aside from the first and last letter, randomizing word letters has minimal impact on comprehension? < 1155179378 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not esoteric. < 1155179392 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computers were first programmed directly in binary. < 1155179415 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: T3h evil. < 1155179448 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you program in binary?! < 1155179451 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean opcodes? < 1155179456 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, evil can be an excellent component of an esoteric language... < 1155179481 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Same way the compiler generates bianries (" < 1155179491 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm being loose with the term "binary") < 1155179491 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody programs in binary. When they do, they're really coding in binary-encoded hex. single 1's and 0's do nothing. < 1155179520 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: That's like saying Base-4 is a programming language. < 1155179564 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ahems* I can program in HTML> ^_^ < 1155179572 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cackles. < 1155179583 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives CakeProphet a thumbs-up sign with her hitchiker's thumb. < 1155179585 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j00 R t3h 1337. < 1155179601 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call me up when you write a friggin' OS in Dimensifuck. < 1155179632 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cackles < 1155179670 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to write an OS in... HTML < 1155179677 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1155179704 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you plan on doing a bootloader in pure HTML? < 1155179735 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< < 1155179738 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ummm < 1155179745 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even Turing complete. < 1155179749 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe with Javascript. < 1155179764 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would fear the internet if HTML were Turing complete. < 1155179778 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML isn't even a programming language to begin with... it was mostly a joke... :D < 1155179819 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Brainfuck is done in HTML, I'll eat one of Gregor's hats. < 1155179829 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impossible. < 1155179832 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML isn't a programming language, it was never supposed to be a programming language, and you can't have one of my hats. < 1155179862 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just for that, the W3C is going to make HTML Turing complete. >_< < 1155179867 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably make an "audience participation" interpreter with anchors and links... < 1155179900 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would prove the *person* Turing complete, not the language. < 1155179939 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine where we'd be if, instead of implementing if, we just had the computer display "(0 ==1): T/F". < 1155179946 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just presenting some options here. < 1155179976 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just trying to think of any way in which pure HTML could be used to perform basic logic by itself. < 1155180017 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm < 1155180023 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So.. I'm attempting to learn Perl.. < 1155180032 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered PHP? < 1155180036 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... I just remembered why I love coding in Python so much. ^_^ < 1155180038 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck is more readable. < 1155180052 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer PHP to perl greatly. < 1155180118 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. HTML can do automatic page redirects, right? < 1155180187 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any way to specify when that happens? < 1155180196 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time-wise? < 1155180271 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: Yes. < 1155180284 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/search?q=http+meta+refresh < 1155180314 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bingo. < 1155180337 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, is there any way to extract form data and use it in *any* way with just HTML? < 1155180638 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we could somehow store/retrieve data using forms and then create dynamic program flow using refresh meta tags, it might be possible to perform basic logic with HTML < 1155180852 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear.. < 1155180870 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at this Perl script < 1155180874 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : @P=split//,".URRUU\c8R";@d=split//,"\nrekcah xinU / lreP rehtona tsuJ";sub p{ < 1155180875 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : @p{"r$p","u$p"}=(P,P);pipe"r$p","u$p";++$p;($q*=2)+=$f=!fork;map{$P=$P[$f^ord < 1155180877 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ($p{$_})&6];$p{$_}=/ ^$P/ix?$P:close$_}keys%p}p;p;p;p;p;map{$p{$_}=~/^[P.]/&& < 1155180878 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : close$_}%p;wait until$?;map{/^r/&&<$_>}%p;$_=$d[$q];sleep rand(2)if/\S/;print < 1155180905 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION retches < 1155180916 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from an obfuscation contest :D < 1155180933 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It prints "Just another Perl / Unix hacker" < 1155180965 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw, that's cheap- it just reverses a string. < 1155180975 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shoulda been hex encoded or something. < 1155181012 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It shoulda been a Brainfuck interpreter, with the actual output code itself hidden in it. < 1155181049 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still pretty uh... insane. < 1155181063 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean... I couldn't imagine thinking up that many steps to do that... < 1155181067 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1155181353 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... does anybody else hate C? < 1155181370 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X does. < 1155181372 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a pain in the ass to compile. < 1155181382 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a pain in the ass to uh... program. < 1155181387 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*especially* on my os. < 1155181393 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah it is a pain in the arse. < 1155181397 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a practical language anyways.... < 1155181405 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION likes Python cause he can be totally lazy with it. < 1155181416 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm an overzealous Python fanatic. < 1155181466 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Haskell and Ruby. < 1155181484 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a Tcler. < 1155181486 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't beat chipmunk basic. :) < 1155181494 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: What OS are you on?!? < 1155181520 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OSX. < 1155181525 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You idiot. < 1155181532 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GCC is *included* with OSX. < 1155181538 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Open a Terminal. < 1155181539 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am aware of this. < 1155181548 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc -c foo.c foo < 1155181553 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Difficult? < 1155181566 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "compile", I mean make an actual, useful program, not build a console app. < 1155181573 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1155181577 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-Code. < 1155181581 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Click "compile". < 1155181584 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voila. < 1155181584 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-code = rape. < 1155181590 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine, fine. < 1155181594 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever actually used it? < 1155181594 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Install X11. < 1155181600 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have X11 < 1155181607 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My coding in OSX has been in Tcl. < 1155181629 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get yourself a decent OS. < 1155181639 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, say, ProDOS. < 1155181654 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IBM DOS 6 FTW. < 1155181664 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ProDOS is for Apple computers! < 1155181671 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . The Apple II. < 1155181674 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dosshell > midnight commander. < 1155181693 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a recommendation, if you're that much of a DOS freak. < 1155181697 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ever heard of FreeDOS? < 1155181728 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who said I was a dos freak? I only own one computer capable of running DOS. < 1155181741 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coding for X is a total pain in the ARSE. < 1155181751 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not with decent libraries. < 1155181762 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and I use that for running chipdisks and Outpost 2. < 1155181773 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean weak toolkits like GTK? < 1155181777 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION counts things like "Python" and "Tcl" to be decent libraries :p < 1155181782 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ever tried coding a window manager? (Or contributing to one?) < 1155181804 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. You know, I should play around with the tclwm package. . . < 1155181812 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try coding a window manager with it. < 1155181904 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good luck if you want to follow the ICCCM. < 1155181942 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's worse than esoteric programming. < 1155181997 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no doubt. < 1155182096 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/47.html < 1155182245 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric programming isn't usually that hard, really, once you wrap your brain around a language. A lot of it is just tedious work and being extremely careful with your code. < 1155182319 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Malbolge is the exception. < 1155182339 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrapping your brain around it gets you sent to the mental institution fairly quickly. < 1155182428 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1155182459 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it becomes fairly normal once you peel back the obfuscation/encryption layers. < 1155182478 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of the languages that almost nobody can use without making some tools first. < 1155182481 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then it's not Malbolge. < 1155182510 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, nobody codes in pure encrypted malbolge. < 1155182642 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1155185162 0 :GregorR-L!n=GregorR-@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1155185378 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@12.78.67.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1155188479 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good night, everyone. < 1155188485 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night. < 1155188501 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1155189570 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" Want to be different? HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-" < 1155190015 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1155190015 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1155190015 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1155190015 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1155190608 0 :tokigun!n=tokigun@sparcs45.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1155190806 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@unaffiliated/bsmntbombdood JOIN :#esoteric < 1155190813 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@c-24-21-138-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1155190830 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1155194315 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1155196799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1155196800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1155206555 0 :Arrogant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1155207331 0 :asiekierka!n=asiek@nat-1.elb.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1155209902 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:37 in poland! < 1155209906 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1:37 PM < 1155209908 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for you < 1155210036 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:38:01 < asiekierka> 13:37 in poland! < 1155210055 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"My time zone seems to be different by a minute." < 1155211567 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1155211578 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 13:08 in poland < 1155211582 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was on my clock < 1155211589 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is different by an HOUR. < 1155211602 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so your timezone is different by HOUR+MINUTE. < 1155211665 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. < 1155211679 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Yourbot IRC Bot 4.5> You can get this bot at http://www.ybbot.com/." < 1155211714 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think there's just a minute between 13:37 and 13:38, but... < 1155213110 0 :tgwizard!n=tgwizard@c-af3fe155.178-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1155214471 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1155217217 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1155217241 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 ops, 7 non-ops... < 1155217505 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are ops? How strange. < 1155217855 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose you'd want to op us all... < 1155218060 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+oooo bsmntbombdood GregorR ihope ivan` < 1155218060 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+ooo pgimeno tgwizard tokigun < 1155218174 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1155220565 0 :nooga!i=nooga@ip-50.net-41.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1155220571 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaa < 1155220576 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+o+o < 1155220581 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? ;p < 1155221105 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=RodgerTh@c-68-41-14-137.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1155221127 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morning. < 1155221157 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hei < 1155221165 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1155221169 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snakker du norsk? < 1155221210 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, just English and Deutsch. < 1155221232 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good :) < 1155221289 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm currently learning norsk < 1155221301 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1155221554 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any particular reason? < 1155221560 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1155221564 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 fun < 1155221578 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. well, this is #Esoteric. :) < 1155221585 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup :) < 1155221622 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, i've just discovered > http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Computing_department < 1155221637 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah, cool. < 1155221673 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION delves into http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/StarCraft < 1155221988 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+oo nooga RodgerTheGreat < 1155221994 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, man. < 1155222014 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would "norsk" be Norwegian? < 1155222020 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it is) < 1155222124 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1155222137 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i speak bokmal < 1155222294 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bokmal? < 1155222313 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1155222353 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokm%C3%A5l < 1155222354 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a type of norwegian- the written standard. < 1155222356 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1155222364 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An orthography? < 1155222418 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also nynorsk < 1155222439 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The plural is written with the letter s regardless of whether it is pronounced as an [s], as in cats, or as a [z], as in dogs." <- oh boy, English just got much more complicated < 1155222517 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nynorsk < 1155223760 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a boredom < 1155223778 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, kinda a slow morning. < 1155223796 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 16:29 here ;p < 1155223809 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's 10:28 here. < 1155223856 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :newermind < 1155223858 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :v* < 1155223873 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to think of use XNL2 as scripting language < 1155223987 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard of it. < 1155223993 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1155224024 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://regedit.gamedev.pl/produkcje/biblioteki/XNL2/xnl2.html < unfortunately, it's only in polish < 1155224078 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an universal description language < 1155224100 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pomiędzy myślą w głowie człowieka, a sygnałem w elektronice komputera, pomiędzy obrazami w naszej wyobraźni a liczbami w jego pamięci, tekst jest najdoskonalszą formą komunikacji człowieka z maszyną." < 1155224117 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, it's similar to XML? < 1155224126 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1155224131 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's inspired by: INI, INF, RC, binary, XML, X, C++, script languages, HTML, TXT & DAT < 1155224133 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something something something something something something something something electronic computer? < 1155224142 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1155224181 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maszyna -> machine < 1155224257 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elektronice komputera (elektronika komputera) -> computer's electronics < 1155224285 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Polish is the main representative of the Lechitic branch of the West Slavic languages." < 1155224301 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The West Slavic languages is a subdivision of the Slavic language group." < 1155224317 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what? :> < 1155224341 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Slavic languages [are] a subgroup of Indo-European languages." < 1155224357 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so Polish and English are both Indo-European. < 1155224363 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's correct < 1155224446 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Polish < 1155224448 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here < 1155224451 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn >:D < 1155224469 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm learning Chinese today. < 1155224473 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, I wish I could just stuff the contents of wikipedia into my skull.. < 1155224477 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll learn Polish tomorrow. < 1155224510 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1155224536 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I doubt Chinese is Indo-European. < 1155224550 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1155224586 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I'll learn Norwegian today. < 1155224590 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_language < 1155224628 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not Slavic or anything; it's Germanic. < 1155224637 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what ;p < 1155224649 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vil du laere norsk? < 1155224727 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think I will. < 1155224749 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That was "will you learn Norwegian", right?) < 1155224757 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeg sa ikke det :> < 1155224812 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bokmal has many similarities with english < 1155224843 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's right, that was "will you learn Norwegian" < 1155224860 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I can type Bokmål >:-) < 1155224905 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :å = AltGr+w, æ = AltGr+z, ø = AltGr + l. < 1155224935 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1155224968 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to type Norwegian. < 1155224990 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1155224997 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funno, i use chartable < 1155225001 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d* < 1155225027 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belizean_Kriol_language << lol < 1155225075 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like straight from ghetto < 1155225118 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :frigg/friggin - to swear (like f***) example "what di frigg? or "oh frigg" COOL! < 1155225125 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, bbl < 1155225131 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I deh eena wah car!" < 1155225138 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheAfk < 1155225340 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1155225354 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g2g -.-' < 1155225357 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1155225361 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1155226184 0 :GregorR-W!n=chatzill@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1155226195 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note to self: #estoeric != #esoteric < 1155226211 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gee. This channel is awfully op-y. < 1155226214 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o GregorR-W < 1155226250 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-oooo bsmntbombdood clog cmeme CXI < 1155226251 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-oooo EgoBot fizzie GregorR ihope < 1155226253 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-oooo ivan` lament lindi- mtve < 1155226255 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-oooo pgimeno pikhq puzzlet Razor-X < 1155226256 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-oooo RodgerTheAfk sekhmet SimonRC sp3tt < 1155226258 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-oo tgwizard tokigun < 1155226268 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1155226273 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o fizzie < 1155226274 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanie. < 1155226281 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How evil. < 1155226283 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-o GregorR-W < 1155226292 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+oooo lament SimonRC puzzlet ihope < 1155226292 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+oooo mtve Razor-X tokigun bsmntbombdood < 1155226292 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+oooo GregorR clog sekhmet GregorR-W < 1155226292 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+oooo pikhq tgwizard EgoBot sp3tt < 1155226292 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+oooo RodgerTheAfk lindi- cmeme CXI < 1155226294 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+oo pgimeno ivan` < 1155226303 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least there's some action. < 1155226308 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-ooo EgoBot GregorR GregorR-W < 1155226331 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+vvv EgoBot GregorR GregorR-W < 1155226340 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woooh. < 1155226341 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The future of IRC" < 1155226348 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-o Razor-X < 1155226356 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did ivan` ever say anything? < 1155226360 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was an awesome display of my op powers. < 1155226373 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+v ihope < 1155226586 0 :kipple!n=kipple@203.80-202-102.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1155226670 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's with all the ops?? < 1155226685 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+oo kipple Razor-X < 1155226691 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gaaah < 1155226695 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must ... kill all. < 1155226700 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-v me you bastards >_< < 1155226711 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-vvv EgoBot GregorR GregorR-W < 1155226716 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you. < 1155228560 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"screw all y'all" < 1155228563 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-129-243.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1155228875 0 :ivan`!i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan JOIN :#esoteric < 1155228896 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+oo ivan` sekhmet < 1155229943 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=Rodger@204.39.15.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1155229954 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :howdy. < 1155229972 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1155229978 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1155230023 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o RodgerTheGreat < 1155230033 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, ihope. < 1155230037 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1155230197 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like I missed out on some op struggles. < 1155230206 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Struggles? < 1155230266 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the logs looked like you and gregor had a faceoff of some kind. < 1155230326 0 :Razor-X!n=user@user-11fa5b3.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1155230335 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome back. < 1155230339 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1155230350 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o Razor-X < 1155230405 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's it going? < 1155230416 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He deopped everything, then... well, it was a joke and all that :-) < 1155230429 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's why the GregorRs are the only ones not opped. < 1155230432 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: haha < 1155230448 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not bad. < 1155230470 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+oo GregorR-W GregorR-W < 1155230483 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot deserveth no ops. < 1155230495 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congrats, you opped one nick twice at the same time. < 1155230512 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-oooo bsmntbombdood clog cmeme CXI < 1155230513 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-oooo fizzie ihope ivan` kipple < 1155230515 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-oooo lament lindi- mtve pgimeno < 1155230517 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-oooo pikhq puzzlet Razor-X RodgerTheAfk < 1155230517 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in one of the other channels I frequent, the guy who registered the channel kickbanned chanserv and then deopped, so now nobody has them. < 1155230518 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-oooo RodgerTheGreat sekhmet SimonRC sp3tt < 1155230520 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-oo tgwizard tokigun < 1155230522 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1155230523 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-o GregorR-W < 1155230527 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my ops! < 1155230546 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't ban ChanServ ... at least not on FreeNode. < 1155230546 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agh. < 1155230584 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's not give pikhq ops either, eh? :-P < 1155230596 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lesson learned: Don't give GregorR ops. < 1155230597 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine. That was stupid of me. < 1155230629 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how he acquired ops in the first place < 1155230636 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we just need to wait for lament again... < 1155230643 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=-= Mode #esoteric +oo ivan` sekhmet by ihope < 1155230657 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's interesting < 1155230658 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone was awarded them. < 1155230658 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1155230669 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION totally contributes to this channel < 1155230672 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And before that, =-= Mode #esoteric +oooo bsmntbombdood GregorR ihope ivan` by fizzie < 1155230694 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Quick! Somebody self-op and ban ChanServ!) < 1155230720 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woah, wtf? < 1155230724 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How'd we lose chanserv? < 1155230729 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got tired < 1155230732 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of this bullshit < 1155230736 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1155230750 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dang. < 1155230754 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did some secret hidden access level 30 guy turn off GUARD? < 1155230758 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He < 1155230761 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s still in ##quantum. < 1155230797 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know ihope, if you drop your +v, this channel will be pure. < 1155230799 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't ban ChanServ on FreeNode? < 1155230805 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I know this? I've tried ;). < 1155230812 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1155230814 0 :ihope!n=foo@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1155230820 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: Apparently you don't know that, since you asked it as a question. < 1155230840 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah. Question marks destroy me once more. < 1155230845 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1155231044 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... do we have a current consensus on the format of the coding competition? < 1155231053 0 :ivan`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want chanserv commands in brainfuck < 1155231055 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1155231059 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will be a beauty pageant. < 1155231067 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fantastic < 1155231069 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Participants are required to be naked and female. < 1155231078 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :......... < 1155231095 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what have we decided? < 1155231097 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that reduces it to either 0 or 1 participant. < 1155231105 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Not I. < 1155231116 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So 0. < 1155231129 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :curses < 1155231148 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, lament didn't mention pics, so we'd have no way of denying if you lie about it :P < 1155231148 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So are we going to go for a challenge style vote then? < 1155231158 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Razor-X, somebody asked yesterday if by "instead the committee will decide on a set of tasks", you meant "instead the contestants will decide on a set of tasks". < 1155231172 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. The *commitee*. < 1155231182 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the contestants choose, doesen't it sort of defeat the purpose? < 1155231202 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I choose that we program this thing i came up with yesterday and didn't tell anybody about! < 1155231206 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the committee presents tasks instead of challenges? < 1155231224 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1155231234 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the vote was on whether the commitee will create a pool of tasks for anyone to choose or whether it will create tasks for each category. < 1155231258 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pool! a pool! < 1155231261 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd go for the pool < 1155231264 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might want to make that more clear, then... < 1155231275 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah, I'd go for the pool. < 1155231277 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pool < 1155231282 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's settled < 1155231284 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :loop < 1155231293 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok then. < 1155231297 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Razor-X: do you make the vote unanimous? < 1155231298 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loop sdrawkcab! < 1155231298 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ploop. < 1155231308 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the exception of lament who wanted a pool loop ploop, it's unanimous. < 1155231313 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: I'm not voting. < 1155231321 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, then. < 1155231347 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll change the Wiki entry then. < 1155231592 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, we need to start working on some tasks. < 1155231637 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1155231641 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In private, I assume... < 1155231649 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...or did Razor-X just finish? < 1155231655 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not with the tasks. < 1155231662 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just finished with the changes to the Wiki page. < 1155231672 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we should select a date first, though. < 1155231687 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1155231700 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contestants here: What would you like as a nice date to compete in? < 1155231715 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION expresses no preference. < 1155231732 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contestants, bub. < 1155231748 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah. :$ < 1155231769 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people should probably have at least two weeks or so to make their entries. < 1155231819 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I was thinking that too. < 1155231835 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now we need a two weeks. < 1155231845 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about we hold another day-long vote. < 1155231881 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That last vote was more like five minutes. < 1155231895 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It only started when you told us just what it was we were voting on. < 1155231900 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh great. < 1155231910 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well time is something I hope that's more involved. < 1155231916 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since some of you may have lives. < 1155231925 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while most of the committee is here, we should just try to decide on some of the specifics right now. < 1155231930 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no life < 1155231939 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok then committee. < 1155231954 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ping out again, it's because my compilation began stealing precedence over network connections. < 1155231962 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got it < 1155232668 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Well, I suddenly figured out Dirac notation. < 1155232696 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: it's all about underwear < 1155232735 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does |1><-| look like underwear to you? < 1155232748 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not very comfortable underwear. < 1155232763 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: explain it your way, then! < 1155232813 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1155232823 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bras are recievers and kets are senders. < 1155232837 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1155232853 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|1><0| recieves 0 and uses the recieved stuff to send 1. < 1155232872 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likewise, <0|1> sends 1 straight into a reciever for 0. < 1155232902 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does NOT make a lot of sense yet :( < 1155232919 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course not... < 1155232996 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0> sends 0 with an amplitude of 1, 2|0> sends it with an amplitude of 2, |0>/2 sends it with an amplitude of 1/2, etc. < 1155233022 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|1> is like |0>, except that it sends 1 instead of 0, eh? < 1155233085 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<0| is a reciever for 0: <0|x is the amplitude x is sending 0 at. < 1155233183 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then something like |0><1| is both a sender and a reciever: it sends 0 at the amplitude that it recieves 1 at. < 1155233222 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if we call that S, then S|1> is |0>, S2|1> is 2|0>, etc. < 1155233317 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And S|0>, S|0>/3, S300|0>, and all the other stuff that you can do will result simply in 0: it's not sending anything, because it's not recieving 1. < 1155233384 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can add senders together: |0> + |1> sends both 0 and 1 with an amplitude of 1. < 1155233436 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also add recievers together, so <0| + <1| will recieve both 0 and 1. < 1155233477 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(<0| + <1|)|0> is <0|0> + <1|0>. <0|0> is 1 and <1|0> is 0, so that's 1+0, or 1. < 1155233547 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :smart < 1155233585 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can multiply recievers by numbers: 2<0| recieves 0 and gives you twice the amplitude. That's just like multiplying senders by numbers: as I said, 2|0> sends 0 at twice the amplitude that |0> sends it at. < 1155233647 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So (|1><0| + |0><1|) is a NOT gate? < 1155233652 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1155233687 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can send and recieve other things, so you can have things like |true> and <25|. < 1155233853 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep forgetting which one's the receiver and which one's the sender. < 1155233998 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think you'll tend to see senders more often than you see recievers. < 1155234021 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantum states are senders, for example. < 1155234028 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1155234035 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!qbf %# < 1155234039 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|00> 0.00 |10> 0.00 |01> 0.50 |11> 0.50 < 1155234061 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that's a list of numbers < 1155234071 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's one: (|01> + |11>)/2. < 1155234072 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|00> should be a <00| ? < 1155234090 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|Sender>, < 1155234120 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we're displaying the state < 1155234126 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular <00|S> = 0 < 1155234144 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so egobot should say <00| instead of |00> ? < 1155234167 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's |00>. < 1155234233 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you want to say <00|S> = 0; <01|S> = 0; <10|S> = .5, <11|S> = .5 instead of |S> = 0|00> + 0|01> + .5|10> + .5|11>. < 1155234233 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not! < 1155234237 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1155234242 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1155234263 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get it < 1155234278 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you ihope, you're much better at this than my quantum mechanics prof :) < 1155234289 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1155234662 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...So you have a quantum mechanics professor? < 1155234798 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :used to < 1155234802 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :intro to QM < 1155234806 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was unbelievably smart < 1155234814 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and absolutely incomprehensible < 1155234825 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guy has his own wikipedia article < 1155234843 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect < 1155234900 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, he thought his students were as smart as hew as < 1155234913 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was plainly not the case < 1155235125 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was Bill Unruh, you mean? < 1155235168 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1155235302 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the old-school guys < 1155235320 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :60 years old < 1155235320 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is quantum mechanics old-school? < 1155235324 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like einstein < 1155235328 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1155235336 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except more fat and jolly < 1155235345 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: um, it's a hundred years old? < 1155235372 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*but*, it's one of the hottest topics in physics these days. < 1155235413 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be like saying electronics are old-school. < 1155235429 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1155235435 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unruh himself is working on quantum gravity < 1155235435 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1155236271 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1155236278 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1155238493 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps himself < 1155238633 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is written in the Book of G: "G-Machine: a functional machine code coupled with a quantum cellular automata based on three-dimensional aperiodic tilings". < 1155238676 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooh. Buzzwords abount. < 1155238717 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, scratch the three-dimensional. < 1155238719 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not the programming that makes you a good programmer, it's the buzzwords. < 1155238730 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We just need to come up with a good aperiodic tiling. < 1155238754 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since in the end, no-one thinks you're smart (no matter how smart you are) until you begin using a whole bunch of incomprehensible words and Greek letters as variables. < 1155238780 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to be *really* smart (like Cantor) you can use Hebrew variables too. < 1155238865 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh... < 1155239035 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could just be jewish < 1155239925 0 :RodgerTheAfk!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :RodgerTheGreat < 1155239927 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1155239967 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I think we're drifting from the point. < 1155240035 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What we need is a huge number of high-level commands that have to be elaborately pieced together to create low-level ones. < 1155240108 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuff that takes a ridiculous number of variables and passes them through an intricate, complex function, but with nothing as simple as addition. So, to emulate addition, you'd have to find a combo of complicated functions that just so happen to have addition as a side-effect. < 1155240179 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds promising. < 1155240201 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Reverse subtract and skip if borrow" < 1155240892 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That takes a ridiculous number of variables and passes them through an intricate, complex function? < 1155240970 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like Intercal. < 1155240976 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intercal had the greatest operators ever. < 1155241010 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, when I was thinking of a really complex single operation, it brings OISC to mind. < 1155241029 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, INTERCAL... < 1155241212 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, INTERCAL also has very few operators. < 1155241219 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two binary operators and three unary operators. < 1155241241 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ ftw! < 1155241257 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ is the easiest of all the operators, IMO. < 1155241268 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my point. < 1155241275 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe some day I'll feel like finishing my BF interpreter in INTERCAL. < 1155241286 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how far did you get? < 1155241303 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a cell array and got it to recognize + and increment the array location. < 1155241307 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After that, the rest was trivial. < 1155241310 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice. < 1155241311 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*array value < 1155241318 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, [] aren't trivial. < 1155241344 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+->< are trivial, and ., are slightly harder. < 1155241415 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not really. < 1155241446 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easy to make while loops in INTERCAL if you know how. < 1155241462 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant the whole recognizing nesting thing. < 1155241492 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in all my BF interpreters, [ and ] make up a good third to half of my code. < 1155241495 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while (currchar == '[') loop_on = 1; < 1155241504 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really hard, but it's complex. < 1155241519 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use loop_on to do the checks when you get to ']'. < 1155241534 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more tedious than anything else. < 1155241562 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make a BF compiler in sed :P. < 1155241588 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way I always do it (pardon my paste) is: < 1155241591 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : case ']': < 1155241591 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : if (array[pointer] != 0) { < 1155241591 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : int count = 1; < 1155241591 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : while (count >= 1) { < 1155241593 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : counter--; < 1155241596 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : if(counter < program.length()) { < 1155241598 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : if (program.charAt(counter)=='[') {count--;} < 1155241601 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : if (program.charAt(counter)==']') {count++;} < 1155241603 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : } < 1155241606 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : } < 1155241606 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might I have suggested pastebin? < 1155241612 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry. < 1155241617 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1155241651 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I can do that in INTERCAL with a few (10 or more I'd bet) COME FROM statements. < 1155241705 0 :Razor-X!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a lot of variables. < 1155242480 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION creates an empty text file, renames it to a command file, and runs it < 1155242505 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Invalid> < 1155242674 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION creates an empty text file, puts the string MZ in it, renames it to a command file, and runs it < 1155244373 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :binladen < 1155244381 0 :binladen!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1155244423 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1155244651 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wanders in < 1155244708 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1155244728 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ello. < 1155244911 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what happened to half-ops? < 1155244931 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decides that'd be better in ##help-unofficial < 1155245145 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h191.234.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1155246549 0 :RAMPKORV!n=rampkorv@81-235-193-169-no57.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1155246708 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the point of ##brainfuck again < 1155246710 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1155246727 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it actually generate enough traffic to require a separate channel? < 1155246752 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Require, no. < 1155246767 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Justify, maybe. < 1155246770 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: It's mostly a trap for people who autotype /join # < 1155246869 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not redirect it here, then? < 1155246875 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1155246882 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because then it forms an idiot-filter too ;) < 1155246896 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1155246899 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the second thought < 1155246902 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be right....... < 1155246925 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People come into ##brainfuck saying " Hi everyone ! Can someone hep me to translate a source code written in BrainF to a text, like abcd etc ??" < 1155246931 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then don't get redirected here X-P < 1155246946 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i told him to come here earlier (when he asked the same question in ##C) < 1155246952 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1155246966 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he chose ##brainfuck, which on the whole i guess is a good thing. < 1155246972 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup ;) < 1155246974 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do random people actually join it? < 1155246979 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Allll the time. < 1155246994 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. < 1155246995 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came into it a while back. . . < 1155247003 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stays in ##brainfuck for entertainment value < 1155247019 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, pikhq came here through ##brainfuck < 1155247020 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately, I came into it looking to discuss my Brainfuck compiler, so I was proven at least not entirely stupid. ;) < 1155247022 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll check it out, I guess. < 1155247022 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. Too slow. < 1155247033 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. Now ##redirect-to-esoteric redirects to #esoteric. < 1155247040 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How useless, eh? < 1155247089 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1155247113 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In short: The purpose for ##brainfuck's existance is an idiot filter :P < 1155247115 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, you can still join it with an invite or +I. < 1155247115 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good to know. < 1155247276 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. Now ##redirect-to-random-channel should redirect to #random-channel if and only if your name contains the string "GregorR". < 1155247311 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually quite amusing. < 1155247328 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries redirecting two channels into each other < 1155247358 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1155247400 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h191.234.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1155247410 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, now #redirect-1 and #redirect-2 should redirect into each other. < 1155247432 0 :tgwizard!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1155247447 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : === #redirect-1 #redirect-2 Forwarding to another channel < 1155247449 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : === #redirect-2 #redirect-1 Forwarding to another channel < 1155247451 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : === #redirect-1 #redirect-2 Forwarding to another channel < 1155247452 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : === Maximum forwarding reached < 1155247457 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww. < 1155247538 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION changes ##redirect-to-random-channel to point at either #redirect-1 or #redirect-2, depending on how the server feels < 1155247595 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Kay, it's done. < 1155247608 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1155247620 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ##brainfuck, unlike #esoteric, does not actually have a brainfuck interpreter? < 1155247628 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope X-P < 1155247634 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too lazy to throw EgoBot in there. < 1155247640 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Occasionally I do. < 1155247875 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1155247901 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1155247922 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@h191.234.213.151.ip.alltel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1155248005 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :```si`k``s.H``s.e``s.l``s.l``s.o``s. ``s.w``s.o``s.r``s.l``s.d``s.!``sri``si``si``si``si``si``si``si``si`ki <- why? < 1155248147 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda ``````````````.H.e.l.l.o.,. .w.o.r.l.d.!ri < 1155248149 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1155248163 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much better. < 1155248173 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps d < 1155248177 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 EgoBot: daemon cat reload < 1155248179 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 EgoBot: daemon EgoBot reload < 1155248181 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 GregorR-W: ps < 1155248183 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cat in the hat. < 1155248187 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the hat. < 1155248193 0 :GregorR-W!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!EgoBot is teh rawx0rz. < 1155248197 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is teh rawx0rz. < 1155248728 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlambda needs a "create character comparison" function. < 1155248748 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd put the current character into a ? function. < 1155252056 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1155253731 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1155253733 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1155254024 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric