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18:46:01 perhaps Γ is better as the last char 18:48:41 whats that? 18:49:14 GregorR 18:50:09 ? 18:50:31 Noooooooooot seeing it :P 18:50:43 is it really a big deal? :) 18:51:06 Phi eighth-notes backwards-E phi theta eighth-notes ohms? 18:51:13 jix: btw, did you see MinISCule? 18:51:21 calamari: no 18:51:45 jix: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/MinISCule 18:52:04 jix: same idea as Subskin (OISC variant), but in assembly 18:52:16 i saw something like this with a different name 18:52:23 Barely 18:52:46 but it was 59 bytes instead of 36 18:54:06 Why separated by \r >_O 18:55:11 GregorR: because MS-DOS Enter = \r 18:55:17 not \r \n ? 18:55:34 jix: \r\n is newline, but an Enter key press is just \r 18:55:37 Ah 18:55:42 ah 18:55:56 Just like Mac :P 18:56:02 (OS<=9) 18:56:43 I had to choose some character, why not that one :) 18:57:52 so now I'd like to see an interpreter in the 20's 18:57:58 Heh 18:58:22 Seems like if you didn't limit yourself to ASCII input, you could reduce a bit of overhead there. 18:58:46 GregorR: yeah, but requiring binary input seems like cheating 18:59:12 If you say so *shrugs* 18:59:23 I guess that'd be tough to input in DOS ;) 18:59:37 not really 18:59:46 stdin handles it fine 19:00:21 and its even easy by keyboard, since dos gives the Alt-keypad ability 19:01:28 Ah 19:03:03 by yeah, I could cut 2 chars that way, possibly 4 if I can get the flags to cooperate 19:03:07 by->but 19:04:06 and I'd cut 4 more if I cut out exiting and i/o 19:04:31 so 30 or possibly 28 19:05:09 where do i get debug? 19:05:09 Who needs to clean up gracefully? ^^ 19:07:42 jix: I think there may be a freedos version of it 19:08:05 jix: I just used the MS-DOS one 19:08:22 calamari: well i'd have to sue dosbox 19:08:24 *use 19:08:51 yeah, or dosemu, qemu, bochs 19:09:36 setting up bochs is painfull 19:09:43 dosbox >> any of those options in most cases 19:09:57 i have no way to exchange any files between host and guest os that works 19:09:59 Merely because dosbox is ridiculously easy to use :P 19:10:06 GregorR: dosbox is slow 19:10:14 calamari: i know but it works 19:10:21 calamari: That's a big concern with this interpreter, right? :P 19:10:27 GregorR: lol 19:10:50 I've tested Barely under dosemu and qemu 19:12:09 and freedos 19:12:54 since they make the same assumptions, MinISCule should work too 19:13:06 is dosemu a complete emulator? 19:13:17 No 19:13:25 Dosemu isn't an emulator at all, despite the name. 19:13:29 I think dosemu is more like wine 19:13:35 Yeah. 19:13:42 nah can't use it no x86 here 19:13:45 The Windows Emulator that's not an emulator :) 19:13:57 then I recommend qemu 19:14:12 calamari: i have no way to exchange files between it and osx 19:14:33 jix: qemu has networking and also samba 19:14:34 mkisofs? 19:14:40 calamari: doesn't work here 19:14:41 Oh yeah, or just that :) 19:14:51 and do i have samba under dos? 19:15:04 jix: I just used scp under dos 19:16:39 but, qemu can use normal partitions, and also loop, floppies, etc 19:17:07 of course you don't have a floppy drive either 19:17:58 yeah and my only HD is HFS+ formatted 19:18:14 I should create a qemu disk image for this 19:18:26 yeah but i don't think i can mount those 19:18:35 why not? its just a file 19:18:49 hmm maybe i selected compressed image or something like that 19:23:42 -!- lindi- has quit (".."). 19:29:45 blah was in the middle of it and my home connection cut out yet again 19:30:07 dialup is more reliable than that crappy cable connection 19:31:15 lol 19:45:17 -!- GregorR has quit (Remote closed the connection). 19:52:48 almost done 20:14:32 -!- lindi- has joined. 20:18:29 afk, side track 20:34:30 ... 20:35:01 disconnected again, lovely 20:35:11 just about an hjour apart, too 20:50:45 -!- nooga has joined. 20:50:52 hiho 20:51:08 `(a {|w..} b :- a' `f :- f) :- (q' :- `f {\##z} f `f) 20:52:20 hi nooga 20:52:29 what is that prog 20:52:31 looks esoteric huh? :D 20:52:35 regex? 20:52:41 nope ;d 20:52:45 my new language 20:52:52 UNCOOL 20:52:54 is that a prog or the lang? 20:53:08 prog in the lang 20:53:11 ok 20:53:28 been hoping for a contestant.. need to see something smaller than 36 bytes :) 20:53:30 but the problem is that i don't have any idea how it works ;d 20:53:33 haha 20:53:50 I once wrote a lang that I didn't know how to write programs for 20:54:03 but im working on it... 20:54:10 (bubble) 20:54:46 no spec :( 20:55:36 blah, bad urlk 20:56:16 fixed : http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Bubble#External_resource 20:57:15 :-D 20:57:19 sick 20:58:05 but it uses human sentences, can't be that hard ;) 20:58:10 english 21:00:17 ({*|<>} :- `K ?{K}2 :- !) 21:00:46 DAMN!... NICE 21:01:27 it should multiply a number from input by 2 and then print it 21:02:56 is there a working interpreter 21:03:22 hmmm... only parser ATM 21:03:50 ?{ } reads a var ? 21:04:00 ? 21:04:07 trying to understand that prog 21:04:19 {} is operator ;) 21:04:39 what is :- 21:05:05 you can define custom ones, and inside {} you put an expression in operator language (language in language) 21:05:14 assignment 21:05:53 `K = input into K ? 21:06:18 nope 21:06:21 hahaha 21:06:30 sounds like I need to wait for the writeup 21:06:38 mhm :> 21:06:43 w8 a sec 21:08:05 K = new_operator("multiply left argument by right argument"); output = input K 2; 21:08:53 unesoterized ;0 21:13:30 -!- migge has joined. 21:14:13 calamari? 21:15:26 well, at least I realized K was the variable, hehe 21:15:49 err no 21:15:52 was even wrong on that! 21:15:55 yay 21:17:01 :D 21:17:10 () is cons 21:17:49 (?:-! =) cat 21:19:48 * GregorR-W wonders who migge is :P 21:21:56 mhm 21:22:10 who are you migge? 21:24:34 And then, xenophobia started to set in. 21:24:45 ;] 21:24:46 The esoteric'ers, threatened by this new presence, started amassing vast weapons. 21:25:01 giggle giggle snort 21:25:04 Unfortunately, because Gregor's connection sucks, EgoBot was not there to help amass weapons :P 21:27:27 (1 (2 (3 4))) :- i 21:28:49 g2g sic! 21:28:52 bye 21:34:05 i am me, i guess 21:35:08 Hello me, I'm Gregor. 21:37:18 Hello, Gregor. 21:37:25 -!- pgimeno has joined. 21:49:41 I need to make a good FYB bot ... 21:49:53 That you could just feed programs into and it'd keep the top 10. 21:51:00 FYB? 21:51:43 -!- nooga has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 21:52:31 calamari: FYB might have been the first thing I mentioned on this channel ... 21:52:36 Brainfuck meets corewars 21:52:38 ahh 21:53:05 remember, my brain is a queue :) 21:53:17 so you just caused me to forget something :( 21:53:30 Heh 21:53:46 calamari: My middle name is Kenneth. 21:53:50 There, you forgot something else. 21:54:03 what is my middle name? 21:54:12 lol 21:57:26 Jeffry lol Johnston why isn't it capitalized? 21:58:30 It's ... Dutch. 21:58:35 this fat32 mount is driving me crazy 21:58:50 I write files to it, umount, and then qemu doesn't see them 21:58:59 I rebooted and the file mysteriously disappeared 21:59:17 it's like it is not actually writing them 21:59:34 either that or qemu is overwriting the fat 22:01:28 Didn't somebody remake my FYB-runner script to produce prettier output? Who was that? jix? 22:10:29 Dern, google isn't helping 8-X 22:13:08 -!- kipple has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 22:13:11 -!- kipple has joined. 22:13:44 -!- ihope has joined. 22:27:00 -!- tgwizard has quit ("Leaving"). 22:34:23 -!- jix has quit ("Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht"). 23:02:30 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving").