< 1142900704 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1142900726 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1142900805 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-105-142-203.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1142900818 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1142900870 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hola. < 1142903714 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡əpoɔɪuɳ əʎoɿ ɪ < 1142907083 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1142907083 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1142907083 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1142907083 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1142908790 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1142912966 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1142912971 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1142912979 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1142912981 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1142913562 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1142921944 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1142921944 0 :clog_!n=nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1142922737 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1142922737 0 :clog__!n=nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1142922851 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1142922851 0 :clog__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :clog < 1142923722 0 :clog_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1142926268 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1142926279 0 :GregorR_!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1142927999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1142928000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1142929585 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1142929622 0 :jix!n=jix@abx-gw.static.abraxas-medien.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1142930060 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1142930091 0 :GregorR_!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1142931706 0 :iznogoud_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1142937113 0 :pgimeno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1142940410 0 :GregorR__!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1142940425 0 :GregorR_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1142943231 0 :GregorR__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1142943263 0 :GregorR__!n=gregor@198.107.20.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1142944008 0 :kipple!n=kipple@250.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1142944104 0 :CXI!i=Sanity@dialup-92.105.221.203.acc51-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1142946071 0 :CXII!i=Sanity@dialup-39.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1142947159 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1142947576 0 :CXII!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CXI < 1142953282 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-" < 1142955549 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1142956422 0 :jix!i=jix@L63e6.l.strato-dslnet.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1142957737 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1142958356 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin < 1142959374 0 :StelK!i=lopopop@host-84-222-153-78.cust-adsl.tiscali.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1142959397 0 :StelK!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1142959680 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1142959742 0 :StelK`!i=lopopop@host-84-222-153-78.cust-adsl.tiscali.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1142959788 0 :StelK!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1142959791 0 :StelK`!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :StelK < 1142961083 0 :StelK!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1142961614 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-105-142-203.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1142963292 0 :ski___!n=slj@84-217-111-26.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1142964027 0 :ski__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1142967273 0 :ski__!n=slj@84-217-111-128.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1142967283 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1142967973 0 :ski___!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1142968610 0 :pgimeno!n=pgimeno@124.Red-80-59-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1142972037 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rehi < 1142972062 0 :GregorR__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pseudohi < 1142972595 0 :Sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf61f7.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1142973961 0 :GregorR__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR < 1142974176 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-67-172-99-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1142974201 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... I get a 403 error whenever I try to edit the Wiki or log on. < 1142974218 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some broken CAPTCHA in here? < 1142976618 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quote: "I once worked on a project where all code was created using CodeGeneration. It was a complete mess - jumps everywhere, different calling conventions for different functions and all sorts of crazy things. I told the team they were crazy - how could anyone work with this?" ... < 1142976661 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... "They replied that I shouldn't be programming in assembly and I should let the compiler take care of it." < 1142976756 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1142976839 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.'. There is nothing wrong with code generation *if* you treat the generated code as a form of object/intermediate code. < 1142976873 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's nothing wrong with code generation if you never look at the code it generates? < 1142976901 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g.: /* This code is machine generated. You should not edit this code, for the same reason that you do not edit compiler output. */ < 1142976923 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't put it in source control, either. < 1142976954 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Treat it with the same rules as any other intermediate code. < 1142976970 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION continues to ramble in this way for several minutes.
< 1142976988 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet people still put binaries to CVS < 1142977003 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly < 1142977023 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is asking for trouble, IMHO. < 1142977033 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: yes and makes building from source very difficult < 1142977057 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: an average java "source" arhive includes 3-10 jar files for dependencies < 1142977081 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makefiles are quite capable of expressing the relationship between code-generator input and code-generator output. < 1142977093 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are good for all *sorts* of stuff. < 1142977262 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, BTW, one-shot code generation is not bad. < 1142977495 0 :lindi-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/arhive/archive/ < 1142978020 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1142982590 0 :CXII!i=Sanity@dialup-243.89.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1142983644 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1142984464 0 :Arrogant!i=Scott@197.orlando-09rh15-16rt.fl.dial-access.att.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1142984991 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-105-142-203.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1142985397 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOO! < 1142985401 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I scare you?