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01:03:14 <ihope> So how do we stop the recent spam-wave?
01:03:33 <ihope> Temporarily block unregistered dudes from editing?
01:05:32 <ihope> Prevent external links from having the text "..."?
01:06:31 <ihope> And for the other type of spam, prevent page lengths from being cut in half?
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09:40:49 <Keymaker> yeah the spam wave is rather annoying
09:41:08 <nooga> hi
09:41:19 <Keymaker> hi
09:43:24 <pgimeno> hey
09:43:32 <Keymaker> hey
09:44:22 <pgimeno> are there as many unregistered contributors as to leave the unregistered option open?
09:45:42 <Keymaker> no idea, but i'd guess there are less unregistered ones
09:45:44 <pgimeno> I'm not sure I've made sense there
09:45:55 <Keymaker> yeah :)
09:46:47 <pgimeno> the trusting in good faith is broken by the spammers
09:46:55 <Keymaker> yes
09:47:17 <Keymaker> in my opinion it doesn't matter what unregistered contributors think because it will be for the wiki's best
09:47:25 <Keymaker> and nothing prevents unregistered users from registering
09:47:32 <Keymaker> so it shouldn't be big deal
09:47:55 <pgimeno> yup
09:48:29 <pgimeno> actually, my suggestion initially was to not allow anonymous contributions
09:48:42 <Keymaker> yeah, but isn't that the same thing?
09:49:00 <Keymaker> or is there any other way to contribute non-anonymously than by registering?
09:49:02 <pgimeno> yes, just a bit delayed :)
09:49:05 <Keymaker> heh
09:50:16 <pgimeno> I wonder if there's kind of a "captcha" plugin or extension or whatever for MediaWiki
09:50:35 <Keymaker> no idea
09:51:19 <pgimeno> even so, I've read somewhere how spammers are fighting captchas...
09:51:32 <pgimeno> don't know if that's an extended practice yet
09:52:11 <Keymaker> well, registering only slows them down
09:52:29 <Keymaker> they can always register and such, but thankfully not that often
09:52:40 <pgimeno> they offer free pr0n if the user enters the captcha's text; the user's entry is then used for spamming
09:53:10 <Keymaker> ah
09:53:48 <pgimeno> waiting for an email confirmation is unacceptable for spammers, indeed
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12:14:16 <Keymaker> exit time..
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12:56:52 <nooga> hm
13:08:02 <jix> moin
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16:35:45 <nooga> :>
16:36:43 <ihope> :-)
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18:11:10 <ihope> ===EgoBot There was no such nickname
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18:58:01 <ihope> Very suddenly, I feel the NEED to create an operating system.
18:58:36 * ihope downloads Bochs and dives into the documentation things, then gets bored and starts wasting time again
18:58:36 <calamari> eso?
18:58:49 <calamari> eew.. bochs?  no.. qemu!
18:59:33 * ihope downloads Qemu and dives into the documentation things, then gets bored and puts his operating system in EagleBot instead
19:00:07 * ihope realizes that EagleBot hasn't been written yet, laughs, and begins reading the Haskell API documentation
19:00:15 <calamari> still waiting on that esoteric operating system 
19:01:41 <calamari> best I could do was bos in 512 bytes 
19:02:17 <ihope> A 512-byte operating system?
19:02:19 <calamari> hmm, wonder how much of an os could be provided in 512 bytes (apps wouldn't access anything directly, just through the os)
19:02:42 <ihope> Accept input, store it in a file. Run the file.
19:03:13 <ihope> The line above is an all-purpose operating system written in pseudocode. /me bows
19:03:17 <calamari> ooh, so files and disk i/o?
19:03:33 <calamari> that might put you over the 512-byte limit :)
19:03:41 <ihope> Um, maybe not.
19:03:43 <fizzie> Wasn't qemu the one with the strange 'system is (L)GPL'd but an "accelerator module" is proprietary' license? 
19:03:58 <ihope> How big's the smallest BF interpreter we have?
19:04:05 <calamari> fizzie: there is a gpl accelerator and a freeware accel
19:04:24 <ihope> Anyway, this might be shorter: RUN INPUT.
19:04:26 <calamari> ihope: I wrote one that is pretty small
19:04:41 <fizzie> I wrote a relatively small one (in C) too.
19:05:18 <fizzie> Apparently four lines, with lengths 67, 67, 66 and 65.
19:05:37 <fizzie> main(j,a,n,t)int*a;{unsigned short p=-1;char*r=calloc(n=p+1,6),*i=r
19:05:37 <fizzie> +n,**k=i+n;for(read(open(*++a,t=0),i,p);n=*i-43,t<0?n-48?n-50||++t:
19:05:37 <fizzie> --t:n?n-2?n-19?n-17?n-3?n-48?n-50?n-1||read(0,r+p,1):p[r]?i=k[j]:j
19:05:37 <fizzie> --:p[r]?k[++j]=i:t--:putchar(p[r]):p--:p++:p[r]--:p[r]++,*i++;);}
19:05:53 <calamari> hmm, this one is 98 bytes, I thought I had it smaller tho
19:06:00 <ihope> 98 bytes...
19:06:13 <fizzie> 98 bytes is quite small already.
19:06:44 * ihope thinks
19:07:12 <calamari> bf's goal was the smallest tc compiler.. wonder if another lang would be better suited to be even smaller
19:07:26 <calamari> hmm, oisc
19:07:33 <fizzie> Is your 69-byte one a compiler or an interpreter? 
19:07:44 <calamari> where?
19:08:02 * calamari doesn't remember a 69 byte one
19:08:06 <fizzie> Uh, s/69/98/; my brain is broken.
19:08:23 <ihope> +[,>+]
19:08:31 <calamari> fizzie: interpreter.. compiler is 123
19:09:01 <ihope> There's the operating system, but it doesn't work with every interpreter.
19:09:48 <calamari> ihope: so you're basing your os on windows then?
19:10:00 <ihope> :-D
19:10:21 <calamari> ihope: uses all available memory and crashes the computer
19:10:55 <ihope> I said it didn't work with every interpreter.
19:11:01 <calamari> lol
19:15:05 <ihope> Oh NO, a PDF!
19:15:27 <ihope> I'm going to kill those guys at Adobe. Who's with me?
19:16:54 <calamari> what do you like better, postscript?
19:17:45 <ihope> If it can be read by a non-Adobe product, it's fine with me.
19:18:08 <calamari> ihope: x/gpdf seem to have no trouble with pdf
19:27:02 <fizzie> g/kpdf actually occasionally seem to _have_ trouble with pdf. xpdf more rarely.
19:27:16 <fizzie> (And they all have problems with encrypted pdf's or such.)
19:31:36 <ihope> DANG, Hunter looks fun.
19:32:10 <calamari> fizzie: never used an encrypted pdf .. hehe
19:33:33 <ihope> "" <- an encrypted PDF
19:33:53 <ihope> As you can see, it was probably made using lossy encryption :-P
19:53:03 <calamari> I think I've reached a new level of geekiness.. my desktop image is from wikipedia 
19:53:32 <ihope> Which image?
19:54:07 <calamari> of the Saguaro National Monument, from the Tucson page
19:54:24 <calamari> and I used GIMP to remove a street sign
19:55:16 <calamari> also darkened it a bit so that I'd have more contrast with my dark blue icons
19:55:52 <calamari> err.. that doesn't make much sense.. but it seems to work visually :)
21:06:49 <SimonRC> Mmm, food.
21:13:30 <ihope> FOOD?
21:13:38 <ihope> Yum, yum yum yum yum... yum!
22:24:35 <ihope> Right now, I can think of two exceptions to the "c" pronunciation thing: Caesar and ASCII.
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22:44:07 <SimonRC> ihope: indeed
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