01:08:44 GregorR: Without looking, I can tell that Egobot is written in Perl. 01:09:30 I has to be high-level, because you are able to add features so fast. 01:09:31 OUCH 01:09:35 I am insulted :'( 01:09:42 what's it in then? 01:09:44 C++ 01:09:49 eek! 01:09:54 I'm just that OMG1337 01:10:09 * SimonRC wouldn't fancy writing anything in C++. 01:10:33 Anything that can be written in Perl can be written maintainably in C or C++. 01:11:00 hmm, ok 01:11:13 I would have thought it would be harder work, though. 01:11:34 how do arguments to triggers work? 01:11:37 Yes, but it's worth it because you can read it ten days later :P 01:11:42 !help usertrigger 01:11:44 They go as input to the function 01:11:44 To use an interpreter: Note: can be the actual program, an http:// URL, or a file:// URL which refers to my pseudofilesystem. 01:11:47 !help usertrig 01:11:48 There's no help on it yet :P 01:11:50 To use an interpreter: Note: can be the actual program, an http:// URL, or a file:// URL which refers to my pseudofilesystem. 01:11:53 Because I'm not even done with it yet. 01:12:08 I just got the basic functionality and then became temporarily apathetic. 01:12:17 How would usertriggers in, say, befunge work? 01:12:23 oops 01:12:28 I meant brainfuck 01:12:43 Well, I have !numwarp working. 01:12:58 !numwarp does the BF numwarp program, and the args to !numwarp are the input. 01:12:58 So: 01:13:14 Wait, you have to type it, since it gives the results to whoever typed it :P 01:13:15 Type !numwarp 123 01:14:03 !numwarp 123 01:14:06 /\ 01:14:26 I guess I'll finish that feature now :P 01:16:04 WIBNI you could integrate the languages more closely, so that arguments are actual arguments to a function, or the initial tape contents or whatever. 01:16:37 For that, you would need some kind of standard for the lowest level of esolangs, though. 01:16:46 EgoBot uses external interpreters. 01:16:50 So that would be a huge PITA. 01:17:01 How about ".NUT"? 01:17:09 ...? 01:17:27 I mean, that would be a good name for it. 01:17:41 Maybe not practical. 01:17:47 hmm 01:18:23 Where is EgoBot's source? 01:18:30 In the files archive. 01:18:42 Approximately http://www.esolangs.org/files/egobot/ 01:18:48 If I remember my URLs right. 01:19:08 Add a !URLs command to deal with that. 01:19:10 what is WIBNI? 01:19:21 what is PITA? 01:19:22 wouldn't it be nice if? 01:19:27 ahh 01:19:27 pain in the arse 01:19:33 hehe 01:19:55 o-k 01:20:40 i'm going to make my language non turing-complete, and crazier 01:20:51 i just decided.. 01:21:27 GregorR: idea: "!urls" "* Egoboit has URLs for: esolanger_map, forum, wiki, egobot_source_code" "!url map" "map is at: http://www.frappr.com/esolang" 01:21:32 Keymaker: what's it like? 01:22:00 SimonRC: That would be pretty cool. 01:22:04 you'll see when it's ready :) 01:22:15 i'll replan it 01:22:22 *i have to 01:22:53 GregorR: even better: "/topic #esoteric, the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment -- use !urls to get useful urls" 01:23:20 Keymaker: is it possibly useful like, say, SADOL? 01:23:28 or Glass? 01:23:38 or is it just weird and useless? 01:23:43 Glass is TC :P 01:23:51 I know 01:23:56 simonrc: hopefully weird and useless 01:24:04 since i decided to make it not tc, and replan it 01:24:09 the current version is a tc 01:24:14 but i don't think it's interesting enough 01:24:52 i'll make some tc later.. in the distant future 01:25:14 although there is no need for them since there is brainfuck ;) 01:25:36 OK, lesse. 01:25:36 !reload 01:25:43 !help usertrig 01:25:47 Use: usertrig

Function: manage user triggers. may be add, del, list or show. 01:25:58 !usertrig list 01:26:01 Huh? 01:26:05 Ouch :P 01:26:24 Oh, hah. 01:27:02 !reload 01:27:05 !usertrig list 01:27:07 Triggers: 01:27:23 !usertrig add urls glass {M[m(_o)O!"Test"(_o)o.?]} 01:27:26 Trigger added (urls)! 01:27:28 !urls 01:27:32 Test 01:27:35 Sexy :) 01:28:08 it's a nice idea, that url thing 01:28:15 gonna add there all the sites? 01:28:44 of course i mean every page there is in internet. 01:28:49 Naturally. 01:29:02 nice 01:29:05 One last fix I need - usertrigs needs to cache. 01:29:13 GregorR: is glass specially integrated into egobot? 01:29:52 SimonRC: No. The standard Glass interpreter has the capacity to use caches. 01:37:32 !reload 01:37:40 OK, now it should be able to save user triggers :) 01:38:38 Cool, it works :) 01:39:01 Now I just need to make a Glass class for URLs :) 01:44:42 i think i'll terminate for this "evening" 01:44:44 good night 01:44:53 Buhbye. 01:44:56 -!- Keymaker has left (?). 01:44:59 !glass file://glass/urls.glass 01:45:02 OK 01:45:04 !urls 01:45:06 Available URLs: egobot_source 01:45:09 !urls egobot_source 01:45:12 http://www.esolangs.org/files/egobot/ 01:45:16 I am a sexy beast. 01:47:33 !glass file://glass/urls.glass 01:47:36 OK 01:47:40 !urls 01:47:44 Available URLs: egobot_source logs map wiki 01:47:48 !urls wiki 01:47:50 http://www.esolangs.org/wiki 01:47:53 ^_^ 01:52:31 Ah, yes, BANCstar. 01:52:42 ? 01:52:56 * SimonRC was reading 01:53:02 look it up 01:55:14 Wowsa. 01:57:31 What other useful things could EgoBot do I wonder ... 01:59:09 EMACS psychiatrist! 01:59:43 What other useful things could EgoBot do written in an esoteric programming language which cannot maintain state I wonder ... 01:59:52 What other useful things could EgoBot do written in an esoteric programming language which cannot maintain state *over invocations* I wonder ... 02:00:43 Maybe I need to make superstatic variables in Glass, so I could implement a randomiser with a lifespan ... 02:02:40 Or maybe I can do it a far more obvious way by just having a daemon :P 02:03:41 -!- Arrogant has joined. 02:03:52 Hello Not Particularly Arrogant. 02:04:35 Ho. 02:04:35 Hi&. 02:04:39 What a convenient typo. 02:04:42 :P 02:04:51 Look at this awesome nonsense: 02:04:54 !usertrig show urls 02:04:56 (urls): glass {M[m(_u)(URLs)!(_i)I!(_i)l.?(_u)u.?]} 02:05:02 !urls egobot_source 02:05:05 http://www.esolangs.org/files/egobot/ 02:05:10 ^_^ 02:08:40 OOOOOOOOOOH, I've got it 8-D 02:09:25 Woah, the folder is all SVNified. 02:09:54 Err, guess I didn't get rid of .svn :P 02:10:09 OK, I'll implement OMGAWESOME daemon mode user triggers when I get back from dinner. 02:10:31 It'll rock ... you'll see :) 02:10:36 This guy knows a lot of languages. 02:12:24 Who? 02:13:20 Does glass have conditionals? 02:13:41 Yes. 02:13:49 It's all on the Glass wiki page ... 02:14:12 * SimonRC missed it. /\ 02:14:48 And you can avoid all the horrible run-times that come from only having equality-to-zero testing. 02:16:24 Oh, I just upgraded the Glass interp in EgoBot, so I'll bet my BF interpreter in Glass finally works. 02:16:31 !bf_txtgen Hello, World! 02:16:51 118 +++++++++++[>+++++++>+++++++++>+++>++++<<<<-]>-----.>++.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+. [213] 02:17:04 !glass {M[m(_b)(BF)!"+++++++++++[>+++++++>+++++++++>+++>++++<<<<-]>-----.>++.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+."(_b)b.?]} 02:17:09 Err, whoops, not quite. 02:17:12 !glass {M[m(_b)(BF)!"+++++++++++[>+++++++>+++++++++>+++>++++<<<<-]>-----.>++.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+."(_b)(bf).?]} 02:17:15 Hello, World! 02:17:21 HAH! 02:17:34 Should I be worried about a project whose version # is 0.0.0.2 02:17:57 I would be worried about anyone willing to use three .s in a version number :P 02:18:03 Yeah. 02:18:16 What's this project? 02:18:20 That's what had me worried initially. Then I saw there were 3 0's 02:18:26 Eh, some irc library for Ruby 02:18:38 Trying to write competition for EgoBot? :P 02:18:50 Hardly. 02:18:56 Anything written in Ruby would be too slow 02:18:57 -!- CXII has joined. 02:19:06 'ello CXI* 02:21:26 I'm trying to see why people use Ruby and it just gets harder every day 02:21:55 Hah 02:22:22 I compared the speeds between two very simple Ruby and Python scripts and Python was noticably faster 02:22:52 That's a difficult test to make legitimately ... 02:23:06 All it did was create an array containing the lines of a file... 02:23:09 Maybe the startup time of Ruby is worse, but then Ruby interprets faster, for example. 02:23:39 Maybe. Doesn't make me happy though. 02:26:18 Computer Language Shootout shows Python to be significantly faster though. 02:27:34 I'm not actually advocating anything, just being devil's advocate :) 02:27:36 Err. 02:27:41 Well that was a stupid statement. 02:27:45 heh 02:27:50 Use Haskell! 02:27:51 :-) 02:27:52 I see what you mean. 02:28:11 I really want to like Ruby but its speed is comparable to Javascript. 02:28:38 Although it's much better than Javascript 02:28:42 heh 02:33:46 One of the problems of programming languages based on function calls is the bracketing problem. 02:34:44 ((((((((((())))))))))) 02:35:11 Either you have an apply operator, like unlambda, resulting in huge numbers of ````````````, or you have brackets, like LISP, but these look *realy* bad when all identifiers are one character (as I plan to have). 02:35:51 SADOL gets round it by not having first-class functions, but it isn;t functional. 02:35:58 i think lambda calculus solution is not all that bad 02:36:11 I shall have to invent some bizzare precedance system or something. 02:36:26 do your functions take many arguments? 02:36:46 Dunno 02:36:59 probably only a couple in most cases. 02:37:15 I will want currying, though, like Haskell has. 02:37:21 ah 02:37:21 But first bed, as it is 2:36am. 02:37:43 * SimonRC goes to bed 02:38:27 4:36am here. :p 02:39:13 -!- CXI has quit (Connection timed out). 02:42:41 Wimps. It's 9:42pm here. 02:42:43 Oh. Wait. 03:22:26 -!- Sgeo has quit (Remote closed the connection). 03:24:02 -!- Sgeo has joined. 03:38:03 -!- Arrogant has quit ("I AM QUIT HAVE A NICE DAY"). 04:26:40 !ps 04:26:42 No repeats. 04:30:32 -!- CXII has changed nick to CXI. 04:44:30 !reload 04:44:47 !reload 04:45:04 !usertrig add urls glass {M[m(_u)(URLs)!(_i)I!(_i)l.?(_u)u.?]} 04:45:08 Trigger added (urls)! 04:45:59 !urls 05:12:57 !urls 05:13:00 No repeats. 05:13:04 !blah 05:13:05 !urls 05:13:09 Huh? 05:13:12 Grr 05:24:05 !urls 05:24:09 No repeats. 06:34:47 -!- GregorR has quit (Remote closed the connection). 06:35:18 -!- Sgeo has quit (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 06:35:18 -!- calamari has quit (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 06:35:18 -!- EgoBot has quit (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 06:36:15 -!- Sgeo has joined. 06:36:15 -!- EgoBot has joined. 06:36:15 -!- calamari has joined. 06:36:57 -!- GregorR has joined. 06:41:30 -!- calamari has quit (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 06:41:30 -!- EgoBot has quit (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 06:41:30 -!- Sgeo has quit (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 06:44:01 -!- Sgeo has joined. 06:44:03 -!- EgoBot has joined. 06:44:03 -!- calamari has joined. 06:45:02 Good ol' netsplits. 06:49:03 -!- calamari has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 06:54:10 http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Main_Page 06:54:24 -!- calamari has joined. 06:56:07 fungebob: Umm? 06:56:13 fungebob: Yes, that's the main page ... 06:56:57 sorry man, i was trying to paste that into an im to a friend 06:57:01 kinda tired 06:57:06 Ahh, good then. 06:58:16 I'm trying to figure out a good way to make EgoBot support daemons ... 06:58:17 -!- CXI has quit (Connection timed out). 06:58:25 Without it ending up as a quick and handy way to flood. 07:09:00 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 07:14:57 -!- Sgeo has quit. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 09:11:28 -!- fungebob has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 09:32:14 -!- lirthy has quit ("you should feel more feel you should take more take"). 09:36:57 -!- lirthy has joined. 10:31:08 -!- J|x has joined. 11:55:06 -!- CXI has joined. 12:00:56 GregorR: maybe add passwords? 12:01:03 * SimonRC goes to breakfast 23:01:02 -!- clog has joined. 23:01:02 -!- clog has joined. 23:27:45 -!- GregorR-L has joined. 23:28:08 So, shall we allow !urls to usurp the URLs in the topic? 23:28:32 !urls logs 23:28:35 yes 23:28:37 http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ or http://meme.b9.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric 23:29:36 Passwords? 23:30:26 maybe only you can do it? 23:31:01 Oh, for daemons? 23:31:58 That would probably be best, but sort of defeats the community spirit :P 23:32:59 OH, I've got it! If a line of input is given on the channel, it can give a line of output on the channel. 23:33:10 So you can't just make a spam loop, because it would need input. 23:38:46 -!- ihope has joined. 23:38:57 Ahoy! 23:39:03 !bf_txtgen Ahoy 23:39:15 60 +++++++++++++[>+++++>++++++++>><<<<-]>.>.+++++++.++++++++++. [762] 23:39:18 It's so much cooler to BF it :P 23:39:22 :-) 23:39:27 More >><<... 23:40:01 Hmm... 23:40:02 !bf_txtgen ................................................................ 23:40:07 Blame textgen.java 23:40:29 It would get better if I let it go for more generations, too. 23:40:36 Yeah... 23:40:47 But I can't predict, so I just set it to 1000 23:40:51 !ps 23:40:54 1 ihope: bf_txtgen 23:40:56 2 ihope: ps 23:40:58 119 +++++++++++++++[>+++>+++>+++>+++<<<<-]>+.....>>+......<+....>.........<<.......>..<.....>...>>+...............<........ [900] 23:41:03 Aha. 23:41:28 lol 23:41:31 That's pretty pathetic. 23:41:41 Mm-hmm. 23:42:09 So what's the Church numeral for 256, in Unlambda format? 23:45:38 I think I need to continue work on crosslibc. 23:49:10 !bf_txtgen ~}|{zyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba`_^]\\[ZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA@?>=<;: 23:49:43 Hmm, didn't mean to stop in the middle. Ah well. 23:50:00 237 ++++++++++++++[>++++++++>+++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>>.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.<---.-.-.-.>-----.-.<---.>--.-.<---.-.-.-.-.>------.-.-.<----..-.-.-.-.>------.-.-.-.-.-.-.<--------.-.-.>----.<--.>--.-.<---.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. [947] 23:50:21 Omgwtfbbq. 23:51:07 Could be worse. 23:52:08 ...That looks like Morse code! 23:53:42 !bf --. 23:53:46 � 23:53:51 Hmm. 23:54:25 Default BF is 16-bit 23:54:31 !bf8 -. 23:54:34 � 23:54:44 Is there a !bf7? 23:54:48 No :P 23:54:50 !help 23:54:55 help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig 23:54:56 1l 2l adjust axo befunge bch bf{8,[16],32,64} glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk malbolge pbrain rail sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda 23:55:43 !bf64 -. 23:55:51 � 23:55:53 Yes, bf64 supports unicode BTW 23:55:55 Aww. 23:56:06 Don't ask me to repro a unicode char BTW :P 23:56:13 :-) 23:56:16 It's based on EgoBFI :) 23:56:25 The best BFI ever. 23:56:26 Hmm... /me looks up 23:56:53 Will you ever make the bot able to output all 18446744073709551616 possible characters? 23:57:15 If you organized the code carefully, it could. 23:57:19 Not on one line :P 23:57:23 :-D 23:57:29 Just what is a BFI? 23:57:31 And it would take a long time, since there's a 1.5 second gap between lines. 23:57:35 Brainfuck Interpreter 23:57:53 Ah. 23:58:09 EgoBF also has a compiler and a JIT compiler. 23:58:27 !bf64 +.[+.] 23:58:32 23:58:36 !kill 1 23:58:43 Hahahahaha 23:58:48 Aah! 23:58:48 !flush 1 23:58:50 !kill 1 23:58:56 !ps 23:58:57 It's attacking me! 23:58:57 Process 1 killed. 23:59:01 1 GregorR-L: ps 23:59:11 Don't abuse the bot if you don't know how to flush the output buffer :P 23:59:28 :-)