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00:37:16 <GregorR-L> So.
00:37:41 <wildhalcyon_> umm...
00:37:47 <GregorR-L> Yup.
00:38:44 <GregorR-L> When you're feeling down, your lips are in a frown, there's always this option available to you.  So don't go looking up, or smiling, or singing, just do as I say to do, and kill yourself!  Kill yourself!  Kill yourself!  Kill yourself!  Kill yourself!  Kill yourself!  Kill yourself!
00:38:58 <wildhalcyon_> Where's that peppy tune from?
00:39:06 <GregorR-L> I wrote it :)
00:39:13 <GregorR-L> http://www.codu.org/Kill_Yourself.ogg
00:39:23 <wildhalcyon_> Gregor, you ever think about being a motivational speaker
00:39:28 <GregorR-L> lol
00:39:30 <GregorR-L> EVERY DAY
00:39:48 <wildhalcyon_> what's .ogg again?
00:39:51 <GregorR-L> I stil hate your computer by the way ;)
00:40:02 <wildhalcyon_> Thanks for your commitment to my cause
00:40:03 <GregorR-L> It's an audio format that's patent free and better quality than .mp3.
00:40:06 <GregorR-L> Heheh
00:40:15 <wildhalcyon_> oh, ok
00:41:15 <GregorR-L> Ye gads I hate my voice.
00:41:19 <GregorR-L> Can you sing? XD
00:44:30 <wildhalcyon_> That depends on what your definition of "sing" is
00:44:55 <GregorR-L> lol
00:45:14 <wildhalcyon_> When I sing, it reminds many people of birds
00:45:31 <wildhalcyon_> owls, crows... Im a true artist
00:45:56 <GregorR-L> Wow.
00:46:05 <GregorR-L> That's impressive in a totally different way.
00:46:49 <wildhalcyon_> I know, many people tell me that
00:48:44 <wildhalcyon_> I heard a parrot on a tv show and I said "If that bird can sing that well, I can too!" so I've been practicing.
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00:49:21 <GregorR-L> XD
00:59:41 <wildhalcyon_> This week has sucked
00:59:47 <GregorR-L> Why's that?
00:59:59 <GregorR-L> And, if you're feeling down, I have a song to help ;)
01:00:13 <wildhalcyon_> I know you do Gregor
01:00:31 <wildhalcyon_> Im not sure. I've been sick, that's probably most of it. Its 8:00 and I can barely stay awake right now
01:10:06 * kipple has become addicted to Battle of Wesnoth, and it's all Gregor's fault!
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01:18:43 <ihope> I seem to have become addicted to unbinding lambda functions.
01:21:00 <wildhalcyon_> yeah, those are pretty cool
01:21:17 <wildhalcyon_> a much better addiction than my theoreizing esolangs and never implementing them. Thats a little useless.
01:21:53 <ihope> :-)
01:25:51 <kipple> yeah, because implemented esolangs are SO useful...
01:28:21 <GregorR-L> kipple: MUAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
01:29:25 <GregorR-L> Does anybody want to sing the Kill Yourself song to all their friends?  It's really catchy, I'm trying to turn it into an audio virus ;)
01:34:57 <wildhalcyon_> kipple: implemented esolangs ARE useful. Sometimes they make pretty colors... at least one plays a song.
01:45:03 <wildhalcyon_> I think more esolangs should play songs.
01:45:55 <kipple> well, you could use any undefined behavior in the spec for that purpose when implementing :)
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01:47:58 <wildhalcyon_> I know Smurf quotes They Might Be Giants songs. I dont see any reason why they couldn't be sound bytes
01:48:03 <calamari> hi
01:48:07 <wildhalcyon_> "I apologize, but your program has committed an error"
01:48:09 <wildhalcyon_> Hey cal
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02:22:55 <Sgep> brb
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02:53:18 <GregorR> EUREKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
02:53:27 <GregorR> Notes are Udages (per se)
02:53:41 <GregorR> Lengths specify different operations, and chords specify a different class of operations.
02:53:47 <GregorR> chords are used to do I/O
02:53:55 <GregorR> Eighth notes do moves
02:54:00 <GregorR> Sixteenth notes do ifs.
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03:01:13 <wildhalcyon> lol
03:01:23 <wildhalcyon> goodluck and goodnight
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04:05:29 <Robdgre[a]t> Gregor
04:05:32 -!- Robdgre[a]t has changed nick to Robdgreat.
04:05:36 <Robdgreat> You are a madman.
04:13:41 <Sgep> Bye all
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04:21:19 <Arrogant> What'd he do this time?
04:38:26 <GregorR> I finally thought of a good way to make a music-based esolang.
04:38:31 <GregorR> Well, maybe good.
04:38:37 <GregorR> No time to implement it right now howefver.
04:38:39 <GregorR> However even.
04:38:53 <Arrogant> Where's the idea at
04:39:00 <GregorR> The logs for today :-P
04:39:16 <Arrogant> K
04:41:30 <Robdgreat> Yes, you are indeed certifiable.
04:41:34 <Robdgreat> But I'm sure that's not news.
04:41:59 <Robdgreat> Though, just because I'm acknowledging the insanity of your idea doesn't mean I'm knocking it.
04:42:01 <Robdgreat> I dig it.
05:09:27 <lament> you music esolang better be better than mine.
05:13:40 <GregorR> LOL
05:14:01 <GregorR> I think the Udage concept is a vital ... err, concept.
05:21:51 <calamari> ahh.. no c# form designer for mono.. guess I have to use vs.net :(
05:22:16 <calamari> but, I've made it 3 assignments into the course without using windows! :)
05:22:40 * calamari somehow doubts it'll install in wine
05:32:46 <GregorR> Hmm.
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06:04:10 <Robdgreat> hmm, eh?
06:12:46 <GregorR> Yup.
06:12:47 <GregorR> Hmm.
06:12:50 <GregorR> Very profound, I know.
06:13:09 <Robdgreat> Blew my freakin' mind
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06:38:13 <GregorR> So >_>
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06:41:21 <nooga> hiello
06:43:09 <Robdgreat> hey
06:43:19 <Robdgreat> what are you up to?
06:44:54 <nooga> eating my breakfast :))
06:45:02 <nooga> and how are you?
06:48:27 <Robdgreat> I'm ok. Up too late
06:48:45 <Robdgreat> what's for breakfast?
06:49:24 <Robdgreat> I heard that left-handed people are 20% more likely to grab a forkful of food from someone's plate at the table.
06:49:39 * Robdgreat steals nooga's food.
06:49:40 <GregorR> I presume that means other than their own.
06:49:44 <Robdgreat> right.
06:49:59 <Robdgreat> I figured that would be understood, so I didn't bother explicitly stating it
06:51:20 <GregorR> I would think that stealing other people's food would have less to do with your handedness than inherant meanness :-P
06:51:22 <Robdgreat> Left-handed people are 20% more likely to sample a forkful of Food from The plates
06:51:22 <Robdgreat> of fellow diners than are right-handed people.
06:51:48 <Robdgreat> I've never jacked a stranger's tater tots
06:52:12 <Robdgreat> 95% of all statistics are made-up
06:52:24 <nooga> hm
06:52:32 <Robdgreat> including this one
06:52:45 <nooga> i've got bread with butter and cottage cheese :p
06:53:04 <nooga> with spring onion and some other green things
06:53:10 <Robdgreat> I've got fruity pebbles in the pantry
06:53:12 <Robdgreat> mmmm
06:53:27 <GregorR> 100% of statistics are incorrect.
06:53:50 <Robdgreat> almost paradoxical
06:54:01 <Robdgreat> it does suggest a paradox
06:54:19 <Robdgreat> but by not being absolute, it avoids it
06:54:54 <GregorR> Is the answer to this question no?  A) Yes  B) No
06:55:07 <Robdgreat> That one's paradoxical.
06:55:11 <GregorR> :)
06:55:28 <Robdgreat> "This statement is false"
06:55:55 <GregorR> And then, the antiparadoxes :P
06:56:00 <GregorR> "This statement is true."
06:56:06 <GregorR> Trying to parse that is hurting my brain.
06:56:13 <nooga> hehehe
06:56:17 <GregorR> It's clearly true, but creates an infinite loop XD
06:56:23 <nooga> i saw that time ago
06:56:31 <Robdgreat> recursive acronyms
06:56:53 <nooga> my brain was toasted
06:57:34 <Robdgreat> I wish ctrl+tab worked in a consistent manner across network windows
06:57:39 <Robdgreat> in mirc
06:58:20 <Robdgreat> on one network, ctrl+shift+tab backs up to the previous window. but once I jump to a window for a different network, all bets are off
07:02:25 * GregorR just improved the Kill Yourself song again :)
07:03:07 <Robdgreat> I still haven't gotten to hear it 
07:03:10 <Robdgreat> never would connect
07:03:15 <GregorR> Hmm >_>
07:03:20 <Robdgreat> but its' time I got to bed before 2am
07:03:22 <GregorR> http://www.codu.org/Kill_Yourself.ogg doesn't work for you?
07:03:25 <GregorR> lol
07:03:28 <GregorR> Bye
07:03:34 <Robdgreat> nope, it just sat waiting to connect last time
07:03:37 <Robdgreat> I'll try again later
07:03:38 <Robdgreat> night
07:09:59 <Gs30ng> i have a question guys
07:10:08 <Gs30ng> how do you guys pronounce 'Malbolge'?
07:10:31 <GregorR> To use Odikeh as a phoenetic alphabet: malbUldZ
07:10:42 <GregorR> Not that that helps :)
07:11:11 <nooga> malbold¿
07:11:37 <GregorR> Basically, m, a as in cat, l, b, o as in your, l, dge as in edge
07:11:40 <Gs30ng> hm... i'm wondering that 'ge' pronounced 'ji' like 'Befunge' or 'je'
07:12:23 <GregorR> I pronounce it like it is in Befunge, but I don't understand your alternative :P
07:13:09 <Gs30ng> according to korean search engines, Malebolge, the ethymology, is pronounced [malebold3e]
07:13:47 <GregorR> AMERICANS CAN PRONOUNCE FOREIGN WORDS HOWEVER WE DAMN WELL PLEASE!
07:13:49 <GregorR> ;)
07:14:05 <Gs30ng> well, I'm trying to make some korean documents about this awful programming language
07:14:41 <GregorR> I would use the ethymologically correct pronunciation.
07:14:50 <Gs30ng> so i need korean spelling of this
07:15:03 <Gs30ng> that's why i'm trying to figure out the pronunciation of this
07:15:19 <nooga> someone could write something about SADOL in the wiki :))
07:15:27 <nooga> cuz im afraid
07:16:13 <Gs30ng> it could be �볼제 or 맬볼지... ok, what looks better for you guys? :)
07:18:33 <nooga> ¶æiêgnem :)
07:18:57 <nooga> ci±gn±³ :)
07:19:03 <puzzlet> nooga, i can't catch you correctly. what encoding do you use?
07:19:33 <nooga> i dont know ;p
07:19:49 <GregorR> I like the first one :P
07:19:56 <puzzlet> nooga, maybe you need to /charset utf8
07:19:58 <GregorR> The third symbol is more interesting in the first one.
07:20:04 <puzzlet> GregorR, http://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malbolge
07:20:07 <puzzlet> oops
07:20:11 <nooga> śćięgnem :)
07:20:12 <puzzlet> I mean Gs30ng
07:20:14 <nooga> ciÄ…gnÄ…Å‚ :)
07:20:17 <nooga> now?
07:20:26 <puzzlet> yes utf8 works
07:20:40 <puzzlet> i don't understand though
07:20:40 <nooga> theese are correct Polish words :)
07:20:42 <GregorR> Yeah, that came out right, though in my font the non-ASCII characters are weird looking XD
07:21:08 <puzzlet> s-acute c-acute i e-cedila ...
07:21:33 <nooga> right
07:21:35 <GregorR> It's a song!
07:21:46 <GregorR> "S-acute, C-acute, I E-cediiiiiiiiiiiila!"
07:21:52 <Gs30ng> lol
07:21:55 <puzzlet> anyway brainf*** interpreter is up on Ubuntu - http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/bf
07:22:18 <GregorR> AHAHAHAHAHA
07:22:19 <GregorR> Awesome
07:23:14 <puzzlet> wondering who is the maintaineer
07:24:32 <nooga> (kto? co?) ścięgno, (kim? czym?) ścięgnem, (komu? czemu?), ścięgnu, (kogo? co?) ścięgno, (o kim o czym?) o ścięgnie, (z kim? z czym?) ze ścięgnem, (wołacz) o ścięgno! 
07:25:20 <nooga> you can do this with all nouns in Polish :))
07:25:50 <puzzlet> 복잡하네요
07:26:00 <nooga> it's called conjugation
07:26:13 <nooga> one noun - 7 cases
07:26:35 <Gs30ng> that is like Korean
07:26:36 <GregorR> What are the conjugations?
07:26:47 <puzzlet> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_conjugation
07:26:57 <GregorR> I know what conjugations are -_-
07:27:04 <puzzlet> I didn't
07:27:05 <GregorR> I meant what are the Polish conjugations of nouns.
07:27:13 <Gs30ng> them
07:27:25 <Gs30ng> 7 examples of nooga
07:27:27 <Gs30ng> i think
07:27:27 <GregorR> In English, verbs are conjugated for time (and we only have present and past tense), so we don't conjugate much XD
07:27:40 <Gs30ng> right
07:27:49 <puzzlet> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_language#Conjugation
07:27:58 <GregorR> Hey, thanks 8-D
07:28:04 <puzzlet> not telling much
07:28:22 <nooga> for verbs we've got conjuagtion for time and person
07:28:24 <GregorR> No, from that page I would think it has no more conjugations than Español.
07:29:29 <puzzlet> it says "noun declension and verb conjugation"
07:30:00 <nooga> ou yeah
07:30:05 <nooga> learn Polish !
07:30:10 <puzzlet> Korean language has none of them :p
07:30:21 <Gs30ng> welcome to esoteric (just) language channel
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07:30:42 <GregorR> Wow, 100,000+ downloads?  That's almost slightly significant!
07:30:47 <puzzlet> they can be just mistakes
07:31:23 <Gs30ng> puzzlet, korean does not?
07:31:29 <Gs30ng> well i think korean has
07:31:30 <nooga> infinitive chodzić (to walk) - ja (i) chodzę, ty (you) chodzisz, on (he) chodzi, my (us) chodzimy, wy (you) chodzicie, oni (they) chodzą
07:31:31 <nooga> :))
07:32:09 <puzzlet> of course verbs and nouns are inflected, but under differnt terminology in Korean language
07:32:15 <puzzlet> differnt concept
07:32:48 <Gs30ng> yeap. i think Korean one is more complex
07:33:01 <Gs30ng> kinda hell
07:33:03 <puzzlet> not that complex
07:33:08 <nooga> oh
07:33:10 <GregorR> http://www.codu.org/odikeh/ :)
07:33:18 <nooga> we've got 3 grops of verbs
07:33:35 <nooga> irregular verbs are harder :))
07:33:36 <puzzlet> changing 'I' to 'he' doesn't affect verb inflection, at least
07:33:55 <puzzlet> what is the third group"?
07:34:11 <nooga> we've got five genders also
07:34:16 <nooga> look here: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Polish:Basic_Polish_sentences_2
07:34:27 <lament> five genders? whoa
07:34:37 <lament> that's a bit extreme
07:34:39 <GregorR> ?!
07:35:01 <nooga> language genders -.-'
07:35:17 <GregorR> Male, female, asexual living, non-gender-specific living, nonliving?
07:35:25 <puzzlet> person-masculine, animate-masculine, inanimate-masculine
07:35:51 <lament> how is person-masculine different from animate-masculine?
07:35:53 <puzzlet> and what's accusative?
07:36:14 <GregorR> lament: Male dog versus male human maybe?
07:36:19 <puzzlet> ah, got it
07:36:22 <lament> GregorR: grammatically i mean.
07:36:25 <nooga> on, and look at that examples: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Polish:Plural
07:36:26 <GregorR> Oh
07:36:56 <lament> the examples provided on the page are the same for the two genders
07:36:59 <lament> what makes them different?
07:37:40 <puzzlet> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Polish:Noun_cases
07:38:00 <nooga> lament?
07:38:12 <lament> nooga?
07:38:33 <nooga> which page?
07:38:36 <lament> okay
07:38:38 <puzzlet> In Korean, say case is the preposition
07:38:44 <puzzlet> or prepsition is the case
07:39:02 <lament> i guess Russian lacks animate-masculine
07:39:20 <Gs30ng> preposition? in korean?
07:39:23 <nooga> maybe, i have learned russian for 2 years
07:39:31 <nooga> but i don;t remember
07:39:41 <nooga> it's quite different than Polish
07:39:45 <puzzlet> well theories of Western languages doesn't work for Korean
07:39:58 <lament> nooga: looks very similar to me
07:40:23 <nooga> maybe grammar may look simmilar
07:40:44 <nooga> but I say, it's not as simmilar as it looks
07:41:00 * lament shrugs
07:42:41 <nooga> in that case i should use Russian fluently -.-'
07:43:15 <nooga> but I have problems to say a simple phrase... 
07:44:16 <puzzlet> hmm.. Polish and Russian are same family - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_languages
07:44:28 <nooga> yea
07:44:35 <GregorR> Go Finnish! :)
07:44:39 <nooga> and Finnish and Hungarian also
07:45:00 <puzzlet> not Finnish, says Wikipedia
07:45:05 <GregorR> Yeah, not Finnish.
07:45:25 <GregorR> Finnish is not even indo-european.
07:45:29 <nooga> but Finnish is more like: jijajayjijnjajaijajaaa and Hungarian is like: szylyszaaszyari :))
07:45:49 <GregorR> LOL
07:45:50 <puzzlet> ok..
07:45:54 <GregorR> Bravo
07:46:08 <Gs30ng> Hungarian
07:46:10 <Gs30ng> Liszt!
07:46:13 <puzzlet> you mean Finnish and Hungarian are both Uralic
07:46:14 <Gs30ng> Hungarian Rhapsody!
07:47:39 * Gs30ng installs himself the second conversation killer.
07:47:48 <nooga> i thought they're both Ugrofinnish
07:47:52 <lament> liszt is nice.
07:48:05 <lament> although lately i think i prefer brahms.
07:48:12 <puzzlet> Uralic is the superset
07:48:17 <nooga> i see
07:48:23 <puzzlet> lament, i prefer Ligeti ;)
07:48:34 <lament> i don't like ligeti in the least.
07:48:36 <nooga> i like Hungarian blues ;p
07:48:55 <GregorR> Goooooooo Romantic era ;)
07:48:59 <lament> i can't say i understand modern classical.
07:49:08 <puzzlet> neither can i
07:49:16 <lament> ligeti sounds like pure concentrated garbage to me.
07:49:30 <puzzlet> but Ligeti is just good and ... refreshing
07:49:40 <GregorR> How about Richards? :)
07:49:54 <puzzlet> who?
07:49:57 <GregorR> ME!
07:49:59 <GregorR> XD
07:50:31 <lament> also, i imagine ligeti is near impossible to play.
07:50:47 <lament> cause it makes no sense :)
07:51:08 <puzzlet> but they are the records
07:51:31 <lament> but playing stuff is more fun than listening :)
07:51:44 <nooga> i like improvisation :)
07:51:47 <puzzlet> i see what you mean
07:52:28 <nooga> sometimes i when i play it sounds great, but i can't play the same once again -.-'
07:52:47 <lament> nooga: i like improvization, but the stuff i improvise cannot compare to liszt :)
07:53:01 <puzzlet> lament, what do you play?
07:53:37 <lament> by liszt, i know liebestraum and consolation no.2
07:53:52 <lament> liebestraum is one of the most powerful pieces ever.
07:54:16 <lament> i kinda suck at it (hard passages), but still...
07:59:17 <nooga> heeeeh
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08:00:34 <nooga> *bored*
08:11:48 <nooga> i don't know anything for Spanish exam
08:11:55 <nooga> it's today
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13:45:21 <Keymaker> hello
13:45:50 <kipple> hi
13:45:56 <Keymaker> hi kipple
13:47:12 <Keymaker> grhh.. my solution to integer brainfuck competition don't look good at all
13:47:24 <Keymaker> no, it's not ready
13:47:29 <Keymaker> nor all the parts working
13:47:32 <Keymaker> nor planned
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13:48:14 <Keymaker> welcome
13:59:40 <jix> moin
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15:38:13 <nooga> back
15:38:16 <nooga> from school
15:38:25 <nooga> eh
15:45:57 <Keymaker> hi
15:48:12 <Keymaker> well, i think i'll go. i'm going to see that russian movie "night watch"
15:48:19 <Keymaker> bye
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16:40:48 <nooga> who reads Terry Prachet's books? 
16:40:56 <nooga> Prachetts
16:41:00 <nooga> Prachett's sic
16:41:23 <Robdgreat> I may have heard of Terry Pratchett, but unfamiliar with anything by 
16:41:43 <nooga> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hex_(Discworld)
16:41:47 <nooga> read this :D
16:41:50 <Robdgreat> ahh
16:41:51 <Robdgreat> discworld
16:41:58 <Robdgreat> yeah I'v heard of discworld.
16:42:03 <Robdgreat> but never read any
16:42:07 <nooga> but read about HEX
16:43:10 <nooga> it woul;d be funny to write HEX emulator as a esolang :))
16:44:29 <kipple> hehe. I don't think there is enough information in the books to do that... 
16:44:29 <Robdgreat> oo
16:45:41 <nooga> kipple: but you can always imagine the lacking part
16:45:44 <nooga> +++ Divide By Cucumber Error. Please Reinstall Universe And Reboot +++
16:46:28 <nooga> :D
16:46:35 <nooga> brb
17:04:03 <nooga> hm
17:04:08 <nooga> HEX is funny
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17:49:44 * nooga plays a solo from Shine On You Crazy Diamond - Pink Floyd
17:49:46 <nooga> aaah
17:49:53 <nooga> that feeling on my back 
17:50:11 * kipple compliments nooga on his excellent taste in music
17:50:51 <nooga> :))
17:51:03 <nooga> oh, i don't know any further... 
17:51:11 <nooga> now let's play the solo from Dogs
17:52:06 <nooga> i just love PF
17:52:50 <nooga> uh... g2g, bye all
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