00:00:20 to note, all use of brainfuck code generators such as bf-basic is strictly forbidden 00:00:48 that's hard to prove though 00:01:24 well, one can spot the generated code quite well 00:01:51 ok. that's good then 00:01:55 yeah 00:02:55 to get the winning code one needs to use brains and do tweakin' no generator can even think of 00:03:23 and to note, since this is cool community nobody would use code generators anyways ;) 00:04:05 Wow! ORK has skyrocketed on the 99bob rating list, and is now #6 :D 00:05:19 cool :D 00:05:25 how many votes? 00:05:39 20 00:05:48 wow 00:09:45 if ORK hadn't been so excessively verbose when it comes to manipulating variables it could almost be used as a normal language :) 00:10:36 hehe 00:11:07 -!- twobitsp1ite has joined. 00:11:28 here's a nice contest idea for you: write an ORK implementaion in BF ;) 00:11:30 -!- twobitsprite has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 00:12:44 that could be a *bit* difficult 00:12:51 but not byte 00:14:17 but i assume this contest will be hard enough for most of people, including me. i have no idea yet how to code the stuff that's wanted in the comp.. 00:15:14 I'm sure it will be difficult enough :) the previous ones has been, at least for me (but I'm no good at BF programming) 00:15:32 hehe 00:15:45 the first was rather easy, but the second was a bit harder 00:15:55 i was very close getting my entry done 00:16:32 these days i could easily finish it though.. 00:16:37 but haven't bothered 00:17:11 this third competition may be a bit harder than the second, not sure 00:17:19 yeah, probably ;) 00:17:33 wasn't there like almost no entries last time? 00:17:43 yep 00:17:47 only one :D 00:17:58 sure you want to make it even harder? 00:18:05 yes. 00:18:24 i'm sure the last round's lack of entries was because most of the people were really busy 00:18:49 perhaps 00:18:59 believe me, the task wasn't that hard 00:19:12 i got all the routines working but i couldn't make the stack work properly 00:19:39 but when i saw the winning entry i realized that the stack would've been so very easy to implement by using one different method 00:19:51 and if i had used that i would've got my solution working 00:25:21 anyways, i think i'm going to bed. hopefully the competition is ready to be started 'later' today 00:25:25 'nite :) 00:25:27 -!- Keymaker has quit ("This quote is unrelated to this context."). 00:40:38 -!- twobitsprite has joined. 00:40:39 -!- twobitsp1ite has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 00:49:36 * {^Raven^} 's other computer just exploded (two working ones remaining) 01:44:54 -!- kipple has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 01:55:16 -!- kipple has joined. 02:36:59 -!- Wildhalcyon has joined. 02:37:21 hey! 02:43:24 hidey ho! 02:46:11 Whats up Kip? 02:49:57 not much... 02:50:38 haven't been able to work more on my bf-to-glypho compiler 03:03:39 Hmmm, bf-to-glypho would be easier than glypho-to-bf I think 03:09:02 probably. but more importantly: bf-to-glypho would prove TC 03:12:44 not really 03:12:56 Wait, nm 03:13:04 Im thinking about it wrong.. my bad 03:13:46 yeah, it should work, and prove TC. Im fairly certain TC is provable, since it has random access, exact same looping as bf, and can produce an arbitrary effect at an arbitrary point 03:15:08 agreed 03:55:37 -!- Wildhalcyon has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050716]"). 04:18:37 Ping.l 04:18:42 Why can't I type :'( 04:19:23 The moon weighs 11,771,110,100,000,000,000,000 stones. 04:20:34 good to know 04:21:38 :P 04:21:43 Oooooooh! 04:21:47 A measurement converter! 04:21:56 That would be a good BF project! 04:22:01 *contest 04:28:03 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 04:28:04 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 04:28:06 1 ounce = 0 metric tons 04:28:10 Thank you, Google. 04:44:04 -!- kipple has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 06:50:14 -!- GregorR-L has joined. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:35:04 -!- CXI has joined. 08:36:53 -!- Deosil has joined. 08:37:11 -!- Deosil has left (?). 11:13:14 -!- grim_ has joined. 13:05:24 -!- CXI has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 13:06:22 -!- CXI has joined. 13:14:21 -!- kipple has joined. 13:38:56 -!- jix has joined. 14:41:57 -!- nooga has joined. 15:00:09 -!- Wildhalcyon has joined. 15:02:21 hi 15:02:55 moin everyone 15:03:20 * nooga is trying TeX :> 15:04:50 hey everyone 15:05:43 Im not sure what Gregor was talkin' about... I got 1 oz = 2.8349 * 10^-5 metric tons 15:30:50 -!- Wildhalcyon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 15:30:58 -!- Wildhalcyon has joined. 15:31:32 bah 15:39:18 aaaa..tokigun..where are you?! 16:37:42 -!- ihope has joined. 16:44:01 -!- Wildhalcyon has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 16:44:31 ...I'm working on Esos-hw version 1.0. 16:45:36 o 16:49:41 It's pretty simple, and I'm almost done with it... 16:54:14 -!- nooga has quit. 17:13:43 -!- ihope has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915]"). 17:54:53 -!- Keymaker has joined. 17:55:13 hello 17:56:21 moin 17:58:19 moin 17:59:38 Keymaker: anything new abut the bf comp? 18:00:04 well, kinda 18:00:07 i just got on computer 18:00:15 i hope to get it started later this night 18:01:15 basically all i need to add is: judging & scoring and deadlines 18:01:24 maybe some clearing and other small things 18:01:28 but the main thing is ready 18:04:03 cool 18:04:20 and the main thing is...? 18:06:50 main thing? 18:06:59 19:01:07but the main thing is ready 18:07:06 ah.. 18:07:10 i won't tell it yet :p 18:07:16 you'll see when the competition starts 18:07:18 sorry ;) 18:07:28 k... 18:07:31 * jix can't wait 18:07:38 hehe 18:07:51 with that main thing i mean the competition task and instructions 18:08:31 you're probably goin' to be in? 18:08:55 if i have enough time 18:09:02 ok :) 18:09:12 at least keep on eye the result(s) 18:21:32 -!- grim_ has left (?). 18:21:49 -!- grim_ has joined. 18:24:15 -!- GregorR-L has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 19:33:48 ok 19:34:02 now the only thing that is required is the dates 19:34:15 (i mean dates for this competition time) 19:34:40 [well, real dates are missing as well] 19:35:05 hmmm 19:35:11 would a month be fine? 19:35:35 the time could end 1st november 20:04:41 ATTENTION. 20:05:02 the new brainfuck competition, Integer Brainfuck Competition, has started 20:05:04 http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1360541&forum_id=201037 20:05:07 good luck 20:26:03 -!- GregorR-L has joined. 20:26:17 Hey all, what's news? 20:28:16 check the log! 20:28:30 i just told that the new bf competition has begun! 20:28:53 HAS BEGUN?!?!?!?!?!?!?! 20:28:55 AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! 20:29:00 Where's the info? 20:29:10 brainfuck golf forums 20:29:15 Okiday. 20:32:17 So, a RPN calc essentially? 20:32:51 well, kinda 20:33:08 but the main thing are the two-byte integers 20:35:26 Right. 20:35:43 Well, I'll start writing in a bit, but will fail miserably *shrugs* 20:36:00 good! 20:36:04 (the writing part) 20:36:07 lol 20:36:11 :) 20:36:47 i'd be interested how it would affect if info about this competition would be posted in slashdot. i mean, can they actually code or just talk crap x) 20:37:19 Slashdot = dumb. They can all just talk crap. Of this I am certain ;) 20:37:30 yes 20:38:00 better just to keep the info in esoteric programming circles 20:41:59 I can tell you one thing. The implementation I'll be using is EgoBF :) 20:43:25 ok, as long as it can not generate brainfuck code 20:47:59 Keymaker: i wrote 2 byte int routines a long time ago 20:48:10 i can use them to port any 1 byte math routine to 2 byte ints 20:48:38 i wrote them for my bf checksum program (that i didn't complete) 20:48:43 ok 20:48:59 but please don't release them yet, so that nobody gets tips! 20:49:07 of course not 20:49:11 good 20:49:21 i want to WIN 20:49:25 hehe 20:49:46 i just e-mailed dbc and laurent.. ;) 20:49:51 i hope they have spare time 20:50:37 may we add instructions? 20:52:03 hm? 20:52:07 add instructions? 20:52:12 like mod 20:52:22 % 20:52:26 power (^) 20:52:31 hmm 20:52:38 no 20:52:42 ok 20:52:46 at least not to your competition entries 20:54:16 i'm sorry about that, but i think the 8 instructions are enough 20:54:44 uh r is difficult 20:54:54 yes, a bit 20:55:05 but it'll be there :) 20:55:51 i'll start thinking about the integer stuff tomorrow. i have couple of ideas already, though. 20:57:30 anyways, it's very good to hear you ang gregorr are going to give it a try 21:07:48 -!- Wildhalcyon has joined. 21:09:16 'ello wh 21:09:44 hey mr keymaker 21:09:48 hi 21:09:57 the Integer Brainfuck Competition has begun 21:10:00 http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1360541&forum_id=201037 21:10:08 So I see 21:10:12 ok 21:10:15 Im afraid I won't be competing :-( 21:10:18 :\ 21:10:53 I just dont have the time right now 21:10:59 yeah 21:13:20 Is it just me, or is quicktime not the most annoying piece of software ever implemented? 21:14:07 quicktime is very old 21:14:46 i hate it 21:15:05 apple tries to move all the features from the old and dirty and mac os pre x-ish quicktime to the new osx core video,audio and image 21:15:48 or do you talk about the quicktime player as user? 21:17:37 quicktime player as user 21:17:47 It screws up my file dependencies, even when I tell it NOT to 21:17:52 yeah quicktime player is crap 21:18:02 i thought you talked about the quicktime lib 21:18:22 its the only player that can play .mov files tho 21:18:24 that Ive found 21:19:17 vlc? 21:19:38 vlc? 21:19:44 video lan client 21:20:04 Im not familiar with that 21:20:07 a video player that plays many formats 21:20:23 http://videolan.org/ 21:20:48 yeah, vlc is the best 21:21:01 i can't remember where i heard about it, it's the best player i've used 21:21:08 completely free as well 21:21:35 windows media player is crap too 21:21:44 hmm, alright 21:22:08 Im not a big fan of wmp either, but it generally does what I ask it to do, and doesnt install iTunes at the same time 21:23:06 of course on the windows platform apple bundles quicktime with itunes 21:23:20 mac os comes with quicktime and itunes 21:23:49 oh and are you sure windows media player does what you want? .. my firewall reports many unwanted connections 21:25:51 hmm, my firewall doesnt :-( 21:26:30 -!- GregorR-L has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 21:26:36 (connections to M$ are unwanted) 21:28:17 I definitely understand that jix. 21:28:41 As soon as I get the opportunity to afford a new comp, I'm heading towards linux. The way its setup right now though, it won't work :-( 21:29:18 i lost my old 16-bit BF routines.. working on new ones 21:30:09 ok 21:30:36 this competition will be quite exiting i think 21:36:29 there's interesting looking interpreter in wikipedia brainfuck article, written in some "BBC Basic" 21:36:39 it seems to be new addition there, haven't noticed it before 21:50:26 16bit ADD done 21:54:37 16bit SUB done 21:56:00 nice 21:56:13 the rest is quite easy now 21:56:45 but i can't do 16bit MUL inplace 21:57:21 for r=a+1 and r=a-1 i only needed space for r and a for r=a+b and r=a-b i only needed space for a,b and r 21:58:08 just noticed another problem with the "simple" way 22:55:06 -!- CXI has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)). 22:55:41 -!- CXI has joined. 23:09:25 hmm. me go. nite 23:09:30 -!- Keymaker has quit ("Funkadelic!"). 23:35:25 -!- CXI has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 23:40:32 -!- jix has left (?).