00:04:14 Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm 00:04:15 Moxie 00:04:27 what's this Moxie thing? 00:05:10 It's like the ORIGINAL soda. 00:05:16 They only sell it in Maine, but I found a distributor. 00:05:46 http://www.metrocast.net/~moxieman/WhatIs.html 00:06:20 found it in the 'pedia 00:06:39 Ah yes 00:06:58 interesting. the word moxie comes from the drink, and not the other way around :) 00:07:20 Yup 8-D 00:10:38 amazing what you can learn on #esoteric 00:21:29 -!- calamari has joined. 00:21:42 hi 00:25:28 Hoi 00:25:37 hola 00:25:39 kipple: I think Moxie pretty well fits the definition of an esoteric soda ;) 00:26:19 perhaps 00:26:50 but according to wikipedia it is the official state soft drink of Maine.... not so esoteric 00:26:57 hi GregorR and kipple 00:27:02 True. 00:27:05 Hola calamari and squid. 00:27:12 been implementing NULL for EsoShell 00:27:18 Awesome XD 00:27:19 NULL rocks. 00:45:59 -!- Wildhalcyon has joined. 00:49:39 -!- twobitsprite has joined. 00:51:52 Well if it ain't 2bit 00:57:07 <{^Raven^}> calamari: i won the compo :) 00:57:07 GregorR, I want some moxie too! 00:57:07 Of course you do, it's awesome. 00:57:07 Where do you live? 00:57:45 RealSoda has retailers all over the USA it turns out :-P 00:58:38 Raleigh, NC 00:59:44 Hmmm, judging by their site, "all over" is limited to the western states 01:00:15 http://www.moxie.info/njmox.htm 01:00:31 I don't know how close to you either of those cities are *shrugs* 01:01:09 not very close considering its new jersey... 01:01:40 There's a nearby one in north carolina though! 01:01:43 whoa... 01:02:35 Whoa? 01:03:56 Oh, I know where the store is, which is surprising, since my knowledge of the area in and around my city is *very* limited. 01:11:11 Wildhalcyon: where in raleigh do you live? 01:12:29 Wildhalcyon: because I live in Cary, NC :P 01:13:02 I live off of Avent Ferry 01:13:51 heh, right on... how long you been in the area? 01:14:03 about a year 01:14:29 you like it? 01:15:23 Not too much. Too humid 01:16:04 from a dryer area? 01:16:15 yeah, Seattle 01:16:26 I see, also a much colder area, huh? 01:17:33 During the summer, YES 01:18:33 yeah... see, I"m up here from FL, so it's the winters that kill me... 01:20:06 Winters are a little colder here, compared with Seattle, but just barely 01:22:05 that surprises me... 01:22:47 Well, apparently a lot of people expect Seattle to be like 10 degrees in the winter 01:23:10 We rarely see < 30 though 01:23:27 I see 01:25:14 not a huge deal 01:26:00 yeah, that's completely tollerable... 01:26:29 * twobitsprite wonders when someone's going to complain about the off-topic convo :P 01:27:35 Well, apparently the "topic" is the archives (not that Im complaining about the handy archive link) 01:29:59 heh 01:37:02 Im trying to read this paper concerning my esolang, but I honestly can't make heads or tails of it. They use (and fail to explain) a lot of terminology, and wikipedia is only helping so much 01:42:12 I hate jargon-heads... 01:43:22 Well, it looks like it was a phd thesis paper... 01:43:49 that would explain it... someone was trying to impress thier prof... 01:43:55 twobitsprite: this is #esoteric. Only complaints about on-topic convo are accepted 01:44:13 lament: duely noted :P 01:44:46 oh yeah? Then I challenge you to a duel! 01:45:00 {^Raven^}: congrats! 01:45:22 2 years in a row.. hehe 01:45:46 * {^Raven^} grins 01:46:03 Does anyone know anything about the density of regular languages? 01:46:08 it was just the 2 games? 01:46:20 Wildhalcyon: density? 01:47:59 I think it has to do with how many strings are in a language v. how many ways to make those strings.. or something 01:48:34 in terms of valid tokens? 01:49:05 identifiers? expressions? 01:49:50 to be honest, Im not sure. 01:50:49 http://www.cs.uwaterloo.ca/journals/JIS/VOL8/Moreira/moreira8.pdf This is the paper Im looking at, the reference to density is on page 3. 01:51:38 I guess not. It seems to just be saying "the number of strings in the language" 01:52:18 "of length n" seems ambiguous though 01:53:06 indeed 01:53:38 in the sense that it doesn't seem to be a density from what Im used to of the term.. 01:53:38 * Wildhalcyon shrugs 01:56:31 -!- {^Raven^} has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 01:58:27 -!- {^Raven^} has joined. 01:59:06 <{^Raven^}> calamari: at the posted closing of entries just the two 01:59:11 <{^Raven^}> lament: i hope the comp.lang.c topic police don't join #esoteric 02:01:31 on the contrary, they're quite welcome to 02:01:48 provided they stay off-topic, of course :) 02:02:44 * {^Raven^} tries to imagine a significant proportion of clc exploding with indignation 02:02:59 cool.. I've completely busted up EsoShell with all my changes :) 02:03:15 what are those? 02:03:18 don't expect any new versions for a while, lol 02:04:03 <{^Raven^}> excellent, that makes me feel better about forgetting the easel implementation specs (good thing I actually documented it:) 02:04:19 kipple: more powerful console (move around, character attributes), binary files, filesystem program loader, etc 02:04:44 it seems that many of these things are interrelated 02:05:13 so I get partway into writing one then I have to change something else 02:05:28 hehe 02:05:38 been there 02:06:05 one of the things that I really want to do is change the shell into a program just like everything else 02:06:28 that will open up the possibility of shell scripts 02:06:57 <{^Raven^}> i've been wanting to give PESOIX the concept of disk images that can be manipulated using your EsoAPI 02:07:28 then the binary i/o will be handy 02:08:00 calamari: you might as well implement the linux kernel right away. Seems like that's where you're going :D 02:08:16 seems that way sometimes 02:08:30 EsoShell? 02:08:44 http://esoshell.kidsquid.com 02:08:51 afk to mess with things 02:09:44 <{^Raven^}> i'm off to bed, hopefully will have some more time to work on PESOIX soon 02:10:42 * {^Raven^} is writing a smallish compiler that targets eight languages atm 03:37:02 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 04:15:17 * Wildhalcyon understands now. Density of a language = number of strings in the language 04:15:37 what does that mean? number of strings? 04:16:20 it means the number of strings, like "a", "b", "ab", "abababab"... etc 04:17:01 the paper I was reading was concerned with finite language -> languages that have a finite number of strings in them 04:17:19 aha. wouldn't most languages be practically infinite? 04:18:40 well, many are, but there's plenty of finite ones as well 04:19:22 Even though run-on sentences are a problem, english is infinite 04:24:14 do you have an example of a finite language? 04:25:49 Sure, {a, b, ab, ba} 04:25:56 4 strings 04:26:03 not useful, really 04:26:19 befunge 93 would be finite because the code size is restricted. am I right? 04:26:34 Yep 04:26:50 and any Turing complete language would automatically be infinite 04:26:56 although its very large, you're right, it is finite 04:27:06 yes, a TC language is 04:27:23 the strings within glypho are finite - there are 15 of them 04:27:32 befunge 93 codespace is only 80x25 cells. not very large 04:28:03 yes, but you have lots of symbol combinations within it 04:28:07 true 04:28:39 but how is glypho finite? you can combine the 15 strings in an infinite number of ways, cant you? 04:29:27 glypho itself is infinite, but the individual strings are not 04:30:05 well I don't think there are any languages where individual words have infinite length... 04:30:26 There are some 04:31:07 do you have an example of such a word? 04:31:19 (that was a joke by the way) 04:31:32 lol, good.. cause I was gonna start typin' 04:31:46 hehe 04:32:17 Anyhow, the problem I was trying to compute was the overall inefficiency of glypho. 04:33:05 if I have an underlying symbol set and encode it in glypho strings of length n, how much overall loss do I experience? 04:35:46 For the english alphabet, the efficiency is low: 15/(26^4), but for a 2-bit number (smallest possible to encode in glypho) the overall efficiency is 15/4^4= 15/16 04:37:24 sorry - funny math there 04:37:28 its 15/64 04:42:08 -!- sekhmet has joined. 04:44:14 -!- Arrogant has joined. 04:44:54 Hey guys. 04:44:58 Hullo. 04:47:49 hi 04:48:47 Hey Gregor 04:49:37 Are you guys regulars here? 04:50:18 I guess you could say that 04:50:25 I have been recently, but in the past, no. I guess I would like to consider myself to be a regular 04:50:45 I will be. 04:50:52 I mean, it's on my auto-join list. 04:50:54 though addicts might be a better term 04:51:00 And I open IRC every day. 04:51:34 me too. My computer is on all the time, except when I'm asleep, and I'm usually always on here 04:51:59 The first thing I do when I get back to my computer is check my email, the second thing I do is check the #esoteric logs 04:57:52 Keymaker's making some sort of SECRET LANGUAGE? 04:58:10 AND he's not telling us about it 04:58:23 Hence "secret" :-P 04:58:41 I know, isn't it horrible?! 04:58:46 It is. 04:58:50 He's like Microsoft. 04:58:51 but he IS telling you about it. otherwise you wouldn't know 04:59:08 It's marketing. 04:59:13 "Lose something important. Lose everything you have with the world of viruses and trojans that run on Windows!" 04:59:27 Good point kipple. He's told us that it exists, but withheld other details 04:59:56 GregorR: I'm having trouble parsing ORK 05:00:04 I don't know pyparsing very well yet though. 05:00:08 So that has a lot to do with it. 05:00:09 I'm not surprised somehow (no offense) :) 05:00:23 I need to make it look ahead to find "is to" and not parse it as part of the name :D 05:03:02 This isn't a very active channel 05:03:31 Esoteric programming doesn't often make the front-page news either. 05:03:43 you don't say 05:04:00 I know of one on slashdot 05:04:15 Slashdot is not news. 05:04:19 It's not even entertainment news. 05:04:22 It's just stupid. 05:04:42 I disagree. 05:04:49 I know, everyone disagrees :P 05:04:54 Slashdot is serious advertisement is what it is. 05:05:07 just because most of the comments are incredibly stupid doesn't make the articles they link to stupid 05:05:19 I never even get anywhere near the comments. 05:05:28 The articles are just irrelevent and usually a waste of ones time. 05:05:30 the comments arent worth reading 05:06:13 This is of course all just in my (particularly negative) opinion of Slashdot. 05:06:41 as a matter of fact, slashdot is where I first found out about esolangs 05:07:31 someone posted a link to chris' brainfuck page 05:07:43 I don't know exactly where I found out about them, but I do know the first one I discovered with befunge 05:08:16 although, I had "heard" of intercal before, I'd never read up on it 05:08:36 yeah, I think I'd heard about INTERCAL too before 05:09:10 Actually, let me change my point a bit: Slashdot /is now/ bad, but /used/ to be OK. It's gotten progressively worse over the year. 05:09:25 *years 05:09:42 slashdot is god!!!! 05:09:47 we're all children of slashdot 05:10:13 lol, I had to sit in a "Christ's Children Food Ministry" while waiting for the guy to get my Moxie. 05:10:33 Apparently they have a "convert and you can eat" program, which is so subversive it makes me vomit with anger. 05:10:53 what?! 05:11:08 You dont happen to know what church is sponsoring this, do you? 05:11:13 Not a clue. 05:11:18 you mean they only serve believers? 05:11:21 I spent as little time in there as possible. 05:11:24 From what I could tell. 05:11:27 is that legal? 05:11:33 it might be legal 05:11:39 but it would turn all christians against them 05:11:39 Depends on the state laws, I imagine 05:11:41 Well, it's a charity, they could give stuff to whoever they pleased. 05:11:42 wouldn't that be religous discrimination 05:12:03 GregorR has a point 05:12:15 its no more discrimination than african-american scholarships are discrimination 05:12:21 Exactly. 05:12:34 Less so, because it's a changeable (sort of) feature. 05:12:42 so, if someone starts a charity that only gives to white people, that would be legal? I find that hard to believe 05:13:09 kipple: Would you consider a charity that will only give to African American's to be acceptable? If so, you're a hypocrite. 05:13:16 I wouldn't 05:13:24 Good :) 05:14:05 Anyway, even THAT didn't damper the mood on getting Moxie ^_^ 05:14:15 -!- Wildhalcyon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 05:14:32 -!- GregorR has changed nick to Peer. 05:14:36 Muahaha! 05:14:39 I have struck again! 05:14:45 -!- Peer has changed nick to GregorR. 05:14:53 who's Peer? 05:14:56 Damn pressure 05:15:01 -!- Wildhalcyon has joined. 05:15:02 haha 05:15:07 good old Firefox, how I love random errors! 05:15:27 Despite how I love Firefox, I have to agree. 05:15:34 It's not anywhere near as stable as they'd like you to believe. 05:15:42 Wildhalcyon: Beta 1.5 is fun to crash 05:16:20 I've got 1.0.6, so.. probably doesn't crash as much as 1.5, but still, pretty regularly. 05:16:31 My system isn't exactly swimming with stability though. 05:16:49 I crash 1.0.6 very rarely 05:16:53 * kipple uses Opera which almost never crash 05:16:59 I think something's brainfucked on my motherboard. Probably needs to be replaced, but until I can afford my food and rent, motherboard is on backburner 05:18:31 * Wildhalcyon is smart. Finally understands everything in the phD paper 05:19:09 I found a VERY educational website on formal language syntax that helped me through it 05:19:25 Which PhD paper? 05:20:11 Figuring out that 11*+11*2(1+2)*+11*2(1+2)*3(1+2+3)*+11*2(1+2)*3(1+2+3)*4(1+2+3+4)* meant the 15 glypho strings was tough 05:20:41 Arrogant: this paper: http://www.cs.uwaterloo.ca/journals/JIS/VOL8/Moreira/moreira8.pdf 05:25:35 It's got symbols that I don't understand. 05:25:36 :D 05:26:46 I was right there with you this afternoon Arrogant 05:27:46 This one is worse: http://theory.csail.mit.edu/~yekhanin/Papers/acct2004_I.pdf 05:29:33 * kipple takes a brief look on the article and quickly closes it again 05:29:39 XD 05:29:40 Oo. Set operators that I don't remember. 05:29:48 I didn't even go as far as to open the article :-P 05:29:50 Too afraid. 05:30:02 I don't want to be immasculated by a PDF. 05:30:10 I'm only in High School Calculus :( 05:30:43 You're pretty good for only doing HS calc then arrogant. I wouldn't have even been close to understanding that in HS. 05:31:04 I only know that there're some set operators 05:31:09 There's plenty more that I don't understand 05:31:11 Now Im starting to get the hang of it. Most of this knowledge is all self-study stuff. 05:31:27 I think I'll wait until I finish this year 05:31:37 I dont think that 2nd paper had anything useful for me in it... 05:31:56 GregorR: I've decided to define names and such with SkipTo("is to") etc 05:32:21 You'll be able to do "When ^!$351\n\n is to 15!!\a:" if you want to. 05:32:44 hehe 05:32:47 The spec doesn't define what a name could be!~ 05:32:48 :D 05:33:24 doesn't newlines have a special meaning though? 05:33:31 Eh 05:33:53 isn't that how you separate code lines 05:38:51 Yeah, newlines separate code lines. 05:38:58 So that ought not to work. 05:39:15 All the other characters are fine, though using alphanumeric + _ would be consistant with the -to-C++ compiler. 05:39:38 Right. 05:39:40 Well 05:39:43 I'm working on it. 05:40:35 BTW, you haven't exactly lived up to your nick :-P 05:41:39 I do in #python. 05:41:58 Good enough for me. 05:42:23 Hehe 05:43:29 So, if I insulted Python, presumably you would start being more arrogant? 05:43:36 Presumably. 05:44:11 What's with indentation being significant?! Making any whitespace significant is totally idiotic. 05:44:31 What about the language whitespace? 05:44:33 you mean like having whitespace separate code lines? 05:44:46 lol, I was kidding to rile up Arrogant ;) 05:44:53 Python blocks are defined by tabs kipple 05:44:57 Well 05:44:58 Not tabs 05:45:00 Indentation 05:45:01 I know 05:45:08 I was referring to whitespace in ORK 05:45:13 Ah 05:45:13 Okay 05:45:15 It actually enforces good coding practices, which is good. 05:45:18 Yeah. 05:45:28 Makes it shitty for one-liners. 05:45:30 But oh well. 05:45:32 XD 05:45:37 I still try anyway. 05:45:44 I wrote 99 beers in one line 05:46:03 Let's just all agree that Perl is terrible and go on ;) 05:46:03 It's kinda like reading an esoteric language 05:46:27 print "\n".join("%(n)s%(a)s%(b)s,\n%(n)s%(a)s!\nTake one down, pass it around,\n%(m)s%(d)s%(b)s!\n"%{"n":n,"a":(n>1and" bottles"or" bottle")+" of beer","b":" on the wall","m":(n-1or"No more"),"d":(n==2and" bottle"or" bottles")+" of beer"}for n in range(99,0,-1)) 05:46:34 * Wildhalcyon is happy with that statement 05:48:06 the statement about perl, I meant 05:48:35 * kipple goes to bed 05:48:45 Night kipple. 05:49:21 I really should go too. Im not finding the info I need, and I have to be up in 6 hours 05:50:16 Later Wildhalcyon. 06:06:56 -!- kipple has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 06:36:42 -!- Paragon has joined. 06:37:50 -!- calamari has joined. 06:39:12 -!- Paragon has quit (Client Quit). 06:54:27 -!- Arrogant has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 07:13:14 -!- nooga has joined. 07:14:14 hi 07:16:09 Hullo 07:19:20 :-) 07:20:05 (#esoteric: Join it for the insightful conversations!) 07:20:38 hi noogaGregorR 07:20:52 Transporter accident!!! 07:21:09 the fly! 07:21:21 I'M A MONSTER!!!!!!!!!! 07:21:45 http://www.deepwood.net/~drlion/snusp/sample-code.snusp << looks like a plan of a rail station 07:24:42 Ow. 07:24:53 http://catseye.mine.nu:8080/projects/worb/eg/or-gate.worb << that looks like a roguelike dungeon 07:27:57 huh 07:28:10 i need to create something more interesting than SADOL 07:28:55 how about a 3-d language, where you program with eye-crossing stereograms 07:29:24 or is that only 2 1/2-d 07:29:42 haha, implementation would be hard ;p 07:30:02 cpressey creates cool languages ;p 07:30:16 and a lot of them 07:34:17 hm hehe 07:36:03 i was trying to put linux into my MP3 player :) 07:37:20 and now it doesn't work... 07:48:15 Eye-crossing stereograms = unbelievably cool 07:48:19 Why aren't there more of them? 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:26:39 huh 08:26:42 nooga: there are mp3 players that can run linux? 08:26:47 no 08:26:54 and that's the point :) 08:27:14 i tried to hack one ;p 08:27:21 cool, which one? 08:28:04 MuVo 08:29:45 creative NOMAD MuVo NX 256 MB 08:30:11 is the os part of the 256mb, or is it separate? 08:30:28 I should say the mp3 player :) 08:30:53 256MB are for songs :-) 08:31:09 OS space is ~1MB 08:31:26 how did you change it? 08:31:29 but i tried to put old kernel there 08:32:05 and the rest of things, like lcd driver and some stuf were in that space for songs 08:32:09 stuff 08:32:30 but i fucked up 08:32:40 and now i have blank mp3 player 08:34:02 how did you rewrite that 1mb area? 08:35:31 used a little program 08:35:35 nomad bootflasher 08:35:46 can you reflash it? 08:36:03 yea 08:36:14 wonder if that'd work on a muvo^2.. it has larger storage 08:36:34 and a display :) 08:36:39 hehe 08:36:50 you may try, but don't ask me 08:37:17 i don't want to help breaking your player :D 08:37:25 did you write that bootflasher program? 08:38:41 no 08:39:22 Umm, wouldn't you need to write a custom bootloader that in turn loads the kernel and put /that/ in the 1MB "kernel" space, or did you know how the internal bootloader calls the kernel and manage to set it up to be compatible? 08:39:35 http://www.nomadness.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=149 08:39:38 here's the link 08:39:55 http://www.nomadness.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=MostPopular << more resources if you want 08:40:25 heh 08:40:39 maybe i'll try again 08:41:40 btw.. how will you know if it worked sicne there is no display? :) 08:43:34 it should print 'hello' 08:43:42 and it does not 08:44:02 where does it print hello? 08:44:19 on the player's display 08:44:33 oh, I guess I was looking at an older model 08:45:20 http://www.nomadworld.com/products/muvo_nx/ 08:47:25 cool 08:47:56 * calamari now knows what he wants for christmas :) 08:48:32 :D 08:50:58 hmm, looks liek they figured out how to hack an ipod and put linux on it too 08:52:19 yea 08:52:26 that was my inspiration 08:52:38 i like hardware hacks 08:52:50 like network coffee express 08:54:04 it's connected with the local network and you can control it from your computer 09:07:04 bye 09:07:13 g2g to school 09:07:21 :/ 09:07:33 cya nooga 09:07:47 -!- nooga has quit ("Leaving"). 10:19:43 * grim_ has a horrible esolang idea 10:23:23 hm, occurs to me that ALPACA might have got there first though 10:40:58 -!- lament has quit (Remote closed the connection). 10:51:58 -!- lament has joined. 10:58:51 -!- calamari has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 10:59:03 -!- calamari has joined. 12:01:10 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 12:13:47 -!- kipple has joined. 12:38:21 Nooga, you know if it would work on a MuVo TX FM? That's what Ive got. 14:05:15 -!- jix has joined. 14:39:23 -!- jix has left (?). 14:39:32 -!- jix has joined. 14:39:40 -!- Wildhalcyon has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 16:35:53 -!- sp3tt has joined. 16:39:10 -!- kipple has quit ("See you later"). 17:21:54 moin 17:39:21 -!- Wildhalcyon has joined. 17:40:28 -!- jix has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 17:40:32 hey 17:41:08 -!- jix has joined. 18:24:16 -!- sp3tt has quit (Connection reset by peer). 18:24:16 -!- Wildhalcyon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 18:50:51 -!- Wildhalcyon has joined. 19:23:55 -!- Wildhalcyon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 19:25:16 -!- int-e has joined. 19:41:19 -!- lindi- has joined. 20:38:14 -!- Wildhalcyon has joined. 21:06:19 Im working on my first ever TRANSCRIPT program! 21:18:24 Hmm, doesn't support a lot of string operations via user input :-( 21:18:34 and what are the global objects obj1, obj2, and obj3? 21:25:50 who owns esolangs.org? 21:26:13 i think free subdomains/sub-dns entries for esolang-ers would be coool 21:30:19 That wouldn't be a bad idea.. I've been looking at places to host, since I'll be graduating soon and losing my free school web space 21:30:51 i'm only talking about subdomains not webspace 21:33:05 True, but once I have the domain, I can get the webspace. Having a subdomain tied to the esolang would be nice. 21:33:47 Or maybe that's not feasible 21:33:50 * Wildhalcyon shrugs 21:42:24 -!- int-e has quit ("Client exiting"). 21:45:21 -!- jix has left (?). 23:16:34 -!- Keymaker has joined. 23:16:48 GregorR: you're right; i hate slashdot too 23:17:02 Hoopla :) 23:17:14 :) 23:17:15 * grim_ never reads it 23:17:19 me neither 23:18:00 other site that annoys me a lot is that thinkgeek shop 23:18:17 mmm 23:18:39 when i have time i make my own binary shirt with text "fu*k you thinkgeek, your stuff costs too much!" or something 23:18:46 Hahaha 23:18:58 :) 23:19:03 There was a time when I would have considered buying a case of Bawls from there .. 23:19:10 But now that I have Moxie, who needs Bawls?! 23:19:22 oh no.. 23:19:28 I don't know what it is exactly about thinkgeek that I dislike, but I have no use for the stuff on there and the humour doesn't appeal either 23:19:43 oh, so hang on, that's what I dislike 23:19:44 yes, it isn't that good 23:19:51 hehe :) 23:19:57 the stuff costs a lot, 23:20:01 and often it's crap 23:20:10 tsk 23:20:23 like i wouldn't pay more than 20 euros for a t-shirt with only one word 23:20:30 something like "geek." or something 23:20:34 besides, i hate that word 23:21:04 * GregorR bites off the head of a chicken. 23:21:07 *munch munch munch* 23:21:11 :) 23:21:46 * grim_ doesn't hate "geek" so much... 23:22:13 I'm fine with being called a geek, but only because I do quite enjoy biting off the heads of chickens. 23:22:22 yes.. 23:22:34