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Can't believe I used to like it 06:40:02 Heheh 06:40:07 Anybody have a NetBSD/i386 box? 06:40:14 * cpressey raises his hand 06:40:25 Mind testing if this crossbinary works on it? 06:40:27 hey Chris 06:40:31 hey 06:40:36 I'm not sure if my genericish BSD hacks work with NetBSD. 06:40:51 GregorR: the box is kind of busy building stuff atm, but i can give it a shot in the morning 06:40:57 Chris: how is your family? any kids yet? 06:41:04 heh 06:41:06 cpressey: Thanks, lemme post a link. 06:41:06 no. 06:41:16 thanks for asking though :) 06:41:21 how's it going with you calamari? 06:41:29 Chris: pretty good 06:41:43 got my financial aid finally, so school is paid for 06:41:54 cpressey: http://www.codu.org/HelloWorldX.elf 06:41:54 cool. 06:43:30 GregorR: ok... so how is it supposed to work, exactly? i can try it out on FreeBSD 4.x right now if you like. 06:43:41 oh, and DragonFlyBSD. heh 06:43:47 I already know that it works on FreeBSD *shrugs* 06:43:52 Just chmod 0755 it and run it. 06:44:08 It should work on Linuxen (GNU or no), BSD and Solaris on x86 06:44:23 ELF binary type "0" not known. 06:44:24 Abort 06:44:42 Hmm, it shouldn't be set to type 0, I thought I changed that XDF 06:44:44 *XD 06:44:46 One sec. 06:44:55 OK, forgot to change it :P 06:45:02 Oh, I know what happened, strip unset it. 06:45:33 Reuploaded. 06:45:41 ok, there's still something i'm missing - if it's a libc, why am i suposed to run it? shouldn't i be like linking to it or something? 06:45:52 I linked my libc into a hello world. 06:46:05 ah 06:46:07 i see 06:46:29 (My libc = newlib's OS-independent stuff + some nasty hackery for OS-dependent stuff) 06:46:32 is the hang after printing the message intentional? 06:46:47 ATM I know of know way to halt the program that works on every OS :P 06:47:01 So I left a hang there for the moment, so as to not make worthless core files. 06:47:09 *know of no way 06:47:44 interesting. 06:47:55 i'll try it on netbsd when the box is free, and get back to you. 06:48:02 That would be awesome, thanks :) 06:52:31 great, now you;ve got me thinking about what it would take to support >1 instruction sets... assuming ELF doesn't support that... it probably does, but that makes it uninteresting. it would be far more interesting to have to write a multi-machine polyglot that detects the processor and jumps to an appropriate interpretation routine which runs the actual code, written in some VM 06:57:24 Yeah, I know :) 06:57:27 I'm not even trying for that. 07:21:26 anyone happen to knwo the correct ip to the wiki? http://207.7.108.149/wiki doesn't seem to work 07:22:36 kinda weird too, because esoteric.voxelperfect.net supposedly resolves to that.. 07:31:50 That's not weird at all, it is apparently running a web server that serves multiple domains and uses the HTTP Host: header field to distinguish between those. 07:35:17 umm, ok? 07:35:40 so how do I find out the real ip 07:35:47 that is the real IP 07:36:00 but you need the host name as part of the HTTP query to make it work, like this: 07:36:04 > nc 207.7.108.149 80 07:36:04 GET /wiki/Main_Page HTTP/1.0 07:36:04 Host: esoteric.voxelperfect.net 07:36:21 hmm, then I don't get it, because graue was saying it was broken 07:36:22 [newline] -> get the mainpage of the wiki 07:36:28 and that he had a new ip 07:39:02 if whoever does the DNS for www.esolangs.org could update it, that would be nice 17:57:17 the server changed its IP address, but esoteric.voxelperfect.net still works 07:39:18 maybe I need to wait until graue gets here to find out the new ip 07:41:26 oh fun, I see what he means. 'www.esolangs.org has address 70.85.100.4' '[70.85.100.4] is pendrell.textdrive.com' 'pendrell.textdrive.com has address 207.7.108.149' 07:46:26 and the error can be seen on http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page 07:46:48 while http://www.esolangs.org/wiki gets forwarded to voxelperfect so that works 07:47:11 I changed the ip for esolangs.org to 207.7.108.149.. hopefully that'll work then :) 07:47:51 yep, seems to have 07:48:13 cool.. my uneducated guess still worked then :) 07:48:50 I left www.esolangs.org alone, so it should still be broken 07:48:55 hrm, could you change www.esolangs.org, too? 07:49:08 int-e: I didn't want to change both, in case I was wrong 07:49:17 (changing it now) 07:49:17 you aren't. 07:50:47 done.. now spreading around the globe :) 07:55:34 ah, primary nameservers are updated ... up to an hour from now. 07:55:36 :) 07:56:19 well, either wait an hour or type it the other way for now ;) 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 09:21:34 -!- kipple has joined. 09:29:54 -!- calamari_ has joined. 09:31:16 -!- calamari has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 09:35:54 DFA's are cool :) 09:37:03 distilled a divisible by 4 DFA down from 100's of states to 4, once I realized the obvious.. 09:37:46 heh 09:38:13 input is decimal, but only the last two binary bits matter (00=divis by 4). so mult by 10 (dec) and add the next digit. transition table is the answer mod 3 09:38:48 I should release my DFA interpreter, but I haven't finished all the JavaDoc comments 10:44:40 -!- calamari_ has quit ("Leaving"). 11:25:01 -!- CXI has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)). 11:25:45 -!- CXI has joined. 13:57:55 -!- jix has joined. 14:06:29 -!- int-e has left (?). 14:39:27 -!- jix has quit ("Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht"). 15:51:19 -!- fungebob has joined. 15:55:18 -!- wildhalcyon has joined. 17:02:21 Does anyone have a copy of the PingPong esolang zip file? 17:02:34 archive.org didn't save it 17:05:43 -!- jix has joined. 17:28:10 -!- int-e has joined. 18:19:35 -!- fungebob has quit ("Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050716]"). 18:29:35 -!- fungebob has joined. 19:23:53 -!- ChanServ has quit (Shutting Down). 19:25:31 -!- ChanServ has joined. 19:25:31 -!- irc.freenode.net has set channel mode: +o ChanServ. 19:35:43 I've got a copy of the pingpong zip, I'll email it to graue to put on the wiki file archive 19:36:50 I haven't had time to get to it because I replaced my HD. I've got it though. I'll send it tonight 19:44:30 I've also got the 'Y' .lha file, but I think that's available from the False page anyways, and aside from resembling the Funge-98 Fingerprints, isnt exactly new 19:55:58 -!- Wildhalcyon_ has joined. 19:56:13 -!- Wildhalcyon_ has quit (Client Quit). 20:06:43 -!- wildhalcyon has quit ("leafChat IRC client: http://www.leafdigital.com/Software/leafChat/"). 20:14:05 -!- CXI has quit ("x-chat could use 500 handles, and x-chat could use 500 more"). 20:14:52 -!- CXI has joined. 21:41:32 -!- graue has joined. 21:42:51 something weird is up with the wiki 21:43:05 it just shows a preview when I try to save anything 21:44:11 -!- int-e has left (?). 22:03:20 -!- jix has quit ("Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht"). 22:06:27 GregorR: yup, it works on NetBSD. 22:06:41 REALLY?!?!?!? 22:06:48 AHHHH, I ROCK EVEN MORE THAN I THOUGHT I DID! 22:06:52 :P 22:20:21 -!- wildhalcyon has joined. 22:20:38 fungebob? 22:20:46 yo 22:20:48 whats up 22:21:06 You want me to email you pingpong.zip? 22:21:18 oh yea, thatd be great, jim@jimbomania.com 22:21:30 alright 22:21:51 The implementation is less than adequate though 22:24:45 hmm... sent. You should check your mail eventually 22:29:53 Assuming for a second that a tryte (ternary equiv. to byte) is standardized at 3^6 = 729, what kind of characters would you like to see included in a tryte character code? 22:32:14 So far, I have most of the obvious printables from ASCII (anything on the keyboard), the european inflected characters, greek, and a few non-printable (tab, EOF, NULL, etc.) 22:44:46 graue: the wiki seems to work fine for me. just entered some text in the sandbox 22:46:10 btw, what's with the oranges? ;) 22:47:25 well, everyone was complaining about the mediawiki default logo 22:47:53 I never complained. I'd like that on record. 22:47:57 the wiki works fine for me too, now 22:48:00 The oranges are alright, but.. its not much of a logo 22:48:13 I was just wondering whether it had some esoteric symbolism, or if it's just an arbitrary image 22:48:37 I think a nice Rube Goldberg machine would be suitable. 22:48:49 good idea. 22:49:12 though perhaps a bit difficult to fit into such a small space 22:49:17 the oranges are pretty 22:49:29 they taste good too 22:49:51 they do 22:49:58 Do the ones in that picture taste good as well? 22:50:45 they are a bit too pixellated for my taste 22:56:10 hey wildhalcyon , thanks a lot for the zip 22:56:40 -!- fungebob has changed nick to fungebob_away. 23:07:29 anytime fungebob 23:17:38 -!- calamari has joined. 23:18:14 I can substitute limes for the current oranges if anyone would prefer those 23:19:08 hmm. lime might be slightly more esoteric than oranges ;) 23:25:04 What about some kind of melon? 23:25:06 hi graue 23:26:10 graue: did you happen to see the "votes" the other day for change of default wiki style to monobook? 23:26:30 was it called monobook.. 2nd guessing my memory 23:33:51 -!- int-e has joined. 23:35:37 no and yes 23:36:18 wildhalcyon: if you can get me a high-quality, PD melon image, then sure 23:38:04 graue: can't remember the exact day, sorry.. it seems like a popular change, though 23:38:32 you know you can change it in your account, right? 23:40:04 yeah 23:41:04 so who cares what the default is? 23:43:32 oh well, I changed it anyway 23:43:42 sure makes it less obvious whether you're logged in or not 23:45:01 hehe that is true 23:45:08 what the heck is http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/%EB%8C%80%EB%AC%B8 23:45:09 thanks for changing it though :) 23:45:28 graue: there was interest in a Korean wiki 23:45:49 graue: we were investigating a way to do that without having two different wikis 23:45:57 I see 23:45:59 bbl, phone call 23:46:06 -!- calamari has quit ("Leaving"). 23:46:52 kr.esolangs.org? 23:47:42 -!- graue has quit ("."). 23:55:28 -!- kipple has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 23:56:18 -!- calamari has joined. 23:56:41 re's 23:57:00 graue: to answer your question, tohugh.. that's "Main Page" in Korean :) 23:58:00 graue: for what I was seeing, it was possible to have the "Main Page" link go to that Korean page if their language was set to Korean 23:58:12 graue: only an admin can do it, though