< 1124841636 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are lots of stupid jokes. several are esolangs < 1124841657 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1124841678 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, SOME esolangs are so cool, it makes me poop my pants < 1124841688 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::>>> < 1124841730 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you heard of a language called Frink? < 1124841735 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1124841742 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its an engineering language, every calculation keeps track of units < 1124841771 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :among other features (arbitrary-precision floats) < 1124841787 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i googled :> < 1124841820 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks pretty neat < 1124841898 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it could be refined better... I'd try redesigning it myself, but personally, Im having enough trouble with my esolang. Ive settled on a name, now if only I could decide on some syntax issues < 1124841937 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;] < 1124841966 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a sort of sandbox syntax, but its not ready for the public, since its still fairly undefined and messy < 1124841999 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i think that SADOL programs are looking very cool :D < 1124842024 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~q1:i0:n##_0-01@|###_0i-010q##_0i!##_0i qP < 1124842027 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that one :> < 1124842030 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, your language is definitely coming together nicely < 1124842041 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1124842044 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me know when you've implemented a complex GUI system and some networking ;-) < 1124842053 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;> < 1124842060 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible < 1124842098 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought about macros < 1124842103 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in SADOL < 1124842139 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, the basic ones, like include, define.. < 1124842176 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That stuff always seemed unclean. I felt dirty after programming in C for too long. Had to take a shower < 1124842254 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;> < 1124842301 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, Im joking, but seriously... C bothered me a lot. C++ didn't help. Java makes me ill. Im just not meant for normal programming languages < 1124842375 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im trying to keep everything in my language as orthogonal as possible. Im sacrificing things such as conventional notions of I/O and keeping the language fairly small < 1124842450 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1124843537 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1124845028 0 :WildHalcyon!n=wildhal@216.154.205.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1124845822 0 :nx5!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :nx5_off < 1124846850 0 :WildHalcyon_!n=wildhal@216.154.205.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1124846890 0 :WildHalcyon_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im ready to kill my isp < 1124847345 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1124847488 0 :int-e!n=noone@td9091d43.pool.terralink.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1124848681 0 :WildHalcyon_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Wildhalcyon < 1124848696 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1124848720 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wildhalcyon: cycling :> < 1124849351 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what am I cycling? < 1124849406 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :going in and out < 1124849920 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help it. My retarded ISP is like "you dont really want to be online anymore..." < 1124850162 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1124850412 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1124850632 0 :nooga!n=nooga@ip-4.net-40.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1124850648 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, just like you buddy ;-) < 1124850680 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1124850690 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was swiching to linux < 1124850872 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well.. okay. You had a good reason. < 1124851343 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1124852867 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION yawns < 1124853062 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must catch tokigun < 1124853123 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll never catch him < 1124853129 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's the gingerbread man < 1124853169 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1124853183 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me one song < 1124853190 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by Pink Floyd < 1124853237 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of.. the gingerbread man, I guess. Could be a pink floyd song. Im less familiar with them than I ought to be < 1124853514 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiehie < 1124853547 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"...take a couple if you wish... there are on the dish..." < 1124853559 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tfu < 1124853564 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're* < 1124853746 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you feel about an OO-like language that allowed a member of one object to belong to belong to another object as well? < 1124853824 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1124853826 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im not quite sure how I feel about this yet.. just trying some ideas out today < 1124853841 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :may be interesting < 1124853880 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im not even super-clear on where Im trying to go with everything right now. The spec is a real mess... :-( < 1124853921 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to invent something new < 1124853956 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool ideas are mostly coming when you're far away from computer < 1124853973 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or by accident < 1124854005 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its not that I don't have a good idea.. its that I dont have good ideas on how to implement the good idea. And then Im trying to union that with ANOTHER good idea... and neither is really going well < 1124854011 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1124854013 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm back < 1124854019 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hi :F < 1124854023 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::S < 1124854050 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wildhalcyon You'll never catch him < 1124854050 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wildhalcyon he's the gingerbread man < 1124854058 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm using irc proxy so i'm always connected to server but i cannot answer always.) < 1124854058 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1124854066 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shure < 1124854089 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thats quite alright Tokigun. Your silence speaks volumes < 1124854110 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: SADOL implementation is not finished... :S < 1124854120 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm working on it. < 1124854131 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just tried to ask about that < 1124854146 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even dare to suspect that it's done < 1124854154 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;] < 1124854157 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1124854180 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have you implemented? < 1124854183 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet < 1124854211 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dynamic typing system is almost implemented, but language isn't. < 1124854217 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;> < 1124854233 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i had to implement them yesterday but i was so busy...) < 1124854237 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've almost finished SADOL's site -> http://nooga.int.pl/sadol/ < 1124854250 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, Im going to go back to the drawing board. I think the syntax for multiple function labels will be too complex - especially for use in a digital organism simulation. bbl < 1124854295 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And i've found something on o'reilly :D -> http://nooga.int.pl/sadol/sadol.jpg < 1124854302 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: XD < 1124854316 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1124854350 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: '"1% should return 37? < 1124854401 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1124854412 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'"3%yz also < 1124854412 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think '% is ambiguous < 1124854456 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the example, ',237 returns "%". but it can be parsed as "ASCII code of character ','(comma)". < 1124854469 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o fuck < 1124854494 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right < 1124854517 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd better change the example ;) < 1124854527 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1124854535 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a shame < 1124854544 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im lost in my own language < 1124854548 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-.-' < 1124854570 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha ^^ < 1124854626 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1124855172 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!"7SADOL\n@1(3!"2> `;0!"2\n < 1124855175 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :viola < 1124855197 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a SADOL interactional interpreter written in SADOL :) < 1124855216 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's voila :) < 1124855231 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1124855233 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1124855242 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate french btw < 1124855243 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :viola is a musical instrument. < 1124855253 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, i'll remember < 1124855583 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed < 1124855882 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodnight < 1124855896 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tokigun: and remember - WORK!!! >:D < 1124855901 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1124855918 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1124855927 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"!"3bye" < 1124858242 0 :calamari!n=calamari@dialup-4.240.69.145.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1124860131 0 :nooga!n=nooga@ip-4.net-40.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1124860279 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi nooga < 1124860346 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do people have to take a great idea and add so much fluff that it makes the great idea freakin' pointless? < 1124861810 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm < 1124861829 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm testing dynamic typing system. sometimes it makes memory leak.. :( < 1124861936 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats no good < 1124861939 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language are you using again? < 1124861950 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C < 1124862097 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, yeah.. that'll do it. Im not a big malloc guru < 1124862103 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still love C.. just memory is... tricky < 1124862108 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1124862213 0 :Wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1124862337 0 :WildHalcyon!n=wildhal@216.154.205.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1124862350 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1124863728 0 :calamari_!n=calamari@dialup-4.240.242.92.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1124864037 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1124864050 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my stupid dog has woken me up < 1124864989 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1124865614 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Adios!" < 1124866241 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, dynamic typing system is done. < 1124866248 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tokigun.dnip.net/.local/work/Works/esolang/sadol/dyntype.c < 1124866261 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's time to implement SADOL itself... < 1124867110 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1124867110 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client terminated by server" < 1124867135 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@216.184.11.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1124868399 0 :ES30NG!i=L@221.140.214.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1124868475 0 :ES30NG!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga here? < 1124868485 0 :ES30NG!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Gs30ng < 1124868566 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@61.247.128.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1124869099 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1124869270 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you're here < 1124869290 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i found a little typo on your SADOL page < 1124869303 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possible < 1124869309 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where? < 1124869309 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arhitmetical -> Arithmetical < 1124869368 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1124869391 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well top of 'A table of SADOL's built-in functions.' thing < 1124869419 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1124869423 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1124869448 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you've made pretty darn spiffy language < 1124869508 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well thank you :) < 1124869537 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i also love your nickname. 'nooga', in Korean, my native language, means 'Who is' or 'Who does' < 1124869633 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, 'Who moved my cheese?' is 'Nooga nae cheese-reul omgyosulka?' in Korean < 1124869643 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know :) < 1124869646 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's great < 1124869674 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is nooga a Polish name? < 1124869778 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's random :) < 1124869793 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :random letters hehe < 1124869843 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in Polish 'noga' means 'a leg', and when you try to pronounce 'nooga' it sounds like 'noga' in Polish :) < 1124869850 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a funny thing < 1124869955 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :leeg :D < 1124870296 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would anybody tell me who possess the domain http://www.esolangs.org? < 1124870373 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i and tokigun are considering making an esolang wiki in Korean, and thought that the domain like ko.esolangs.org will be good < 1124870380 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1124870387 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'd like to ask the owner to... < 1124870395 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...er, what's wrong, puzzlet? < 1124870396 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the wiki redirects to esoteric.voxelperfect.net? < 1124870399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1124870400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1124870406 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of esolangs.org < 1124870419 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1124870427 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try http://esolangs.org/wiki and you'll be redirected to another domain < 1124870433 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puzzlet: redirection? i think it was URL rewriting < 1124870440 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that probably means esolangs.org isn't encouraged < 1124870443 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever it is < 1124870459 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it goes to http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Main_Page < 1124870469 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i try esolangs.org/wiki < 1124870482 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gs30ng: but http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page doesn't redirect < 1124870501 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it does < 1124870503 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my PC < 1124870525 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still can see the main page of the wiki, clearly < 1124870529 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1124870543 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1124870549 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mOO < 1124870566 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMM < 1124870568 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :source code conversation < 1124870580 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1124870585 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about hmm language? :) < 1124870586 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ook? < 1124870596 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tokigun: that code looks good :) < 1124870605 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the sadol.c < 1124870618 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puzzlet, does esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page not work on your machine? < 1124870633 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does work < 1124870638 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't check it before < 1124870639 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: :) < 1124870650 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i think there's no problem with using ko.esolangs.org < 1124870684 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to ask the owner to give us that domain < 1124870689 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but who's the owner? < 1124870705 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about making the wiki first? < 1124870729 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puzzlet: but where? < 1124870741 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we can progress the things like in multi-threaded machine < 1124870764 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, i look for domain, tokigun look for account... < 1124870771 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1124870789 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you guys planning making a wiki when there's no server to place it? < 1124870789 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tokigun, didn't you say Daybreaker could support it? < 1124870802 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gs30ng: but i couldn't contact hime < 1124870804 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :him* < 1124870815 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puzzlet: Where there¢¥s a will, there¢¥s a way. < 1124870821 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1124870928 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since wikipedia is in multiple languages, esolang wiki could be, i think < 1124870978 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tokigun: hmm language is good but there's no new concept or difference from moo language < 1124871035 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... i have some concept but i'm not sure it can be really used. < 1124871423 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo language, ook language... < 1124871431 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bird of feather < 1124871470 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1124871480 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still funny < 1124871507 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actual source code in it will be really funny < 1124871546 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can make up "WAV language" where rises and falls of sound waves are converted to brainfuck < 1124871563 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a code performs 99 bottles of bear in hmm language < 1124871572 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.... hmm.. Hmm........ < 1124871577 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> 99b < 1124871604 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really makes me roll on the floor < 1124871631 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops typo < 1124871639 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 bottles of BEAR < 1124871651 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;> < 1124871678 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god! 99 grizzly bears! < 1124871827 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...in bottle, don't scare me at all. < 1124871869 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are you from puzzlet ? < 1124871892 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's something we wonder for several years < 1124871901 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still nobody knows < 1124871948 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, same from Gs30ng and tokigun < 1124871958 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1124871963 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i supposed < 1124871969 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Korea. weird country. < 1124871983 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exotic < 1124872479 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb -> switching to windows < 1124872485 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1124872653 0 :nooga!n=nooga@ip-4.net-40.rev.inter-c.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1124872996 0 :jix!i=jix@p5489FADF.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1124873306 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grouped jix < 1124873515 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm grouped... < 1124873518 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin Gs30ng < 1124873533 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm moin... < 1124874456 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: hmm... i have a question about SADOL. < 1124874500 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :days ago you said "+2zblahblahblha.... is correct statement. right? < 1124874511 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(z is integer variable) < 1124874512 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1124874539 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it's a float it should be rounded ;p < 1124874551 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then how about ~X1"+2#_0blahblahblahblah.... ? < 1124874583 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then interpreter cannot determine an end of function definition < 1124874598 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because #_0 is not there. < 1124874623 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right hehe < 1124874650 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we shouldn't do such things ;p < 1124874661 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1124874701 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: then the number or arguments or characters should be represented using 0..9 and , s? < 1124874708 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined behavior is your friend < 1124874718 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to write ][-][-[][[>],[>]]]<[[>][[[] in brainfuck ;p < 1124874763 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WORKS! < 1124874781 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what it does? < 1124874797 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not tje BF program < 1124874806 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoodwink'd works < 1124874834 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://redhanded.hobix.com/ << this is a ruby blog of a truly esoteric guy < 1124874876 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you can get all informations you need about hoodwink'd (2 blahhg posts) < 1124875102 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmm < 1124875165 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very hard... < 1124875215 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :determining an end of function definition seems very hard, in my opinion. < 1124875256 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so fu*k thtat :> < 1124875260 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1124875304 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha it's just cooool < 1124875358 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: i just forgot whether function can be redefined or cannot. :S < 1124875388 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1124875424 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1124875441 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :already defined function can be redefined? < 1124875541 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my implementation it can < 1124875666 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then: function X is defined with 2 arguments, function Y is defined and uses function X, function X is redefined with 3 arguments. how about this case? < 1124875692 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it creates a mess < 1124875713 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody understood him? < 1124875738 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1124875785 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tokigun, you mean initially function X is defined to get 2 arguments? am i getting you? < 1124875793 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gs30ng: yes < 1124875819 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmh < 1124875825 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you know, my english is not good ;) < 1124875842 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway... < 1124878000 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tokigun: r u writing now? :P < 1124878044 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1124878287 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1124878333 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1124878366 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: i think the number of arguments (as 3 in $3abc) should be a number, not variable. agree? < 1124878414 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with him < 1124878426 0 :tokigun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(function redefinition makes a mess but it doesn't affect function defintion. it just changes an end of function.) < 1124878430 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable number of arguments will cause a lot of problems < 1124878454 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1124878540 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1124878724 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1124878728 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1124879114 0 :calamari_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1124880260 0 :ES30NG!i=L@221.140.214.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1124881283 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"reboot" < 1124881366 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1124881449 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@61.247.128.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1124881457 0 :ES30NG!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Gs30ng < 1124883991 0 :Keymaker!n=Not@wire74.adsl.netsonic.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1124884019 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha! bought pizza so i finally got a new rubberband < 1124884023 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ties the left hand < 1124884091 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOOOOOOL < 1124884096 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1124884109 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :L0RN < 1124884116 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrhr < 1124884215 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: definitely interesting looking programming book x) < 1124884221 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much better than the ones with some animals < 1124884252 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha it's hard to type if you tie your right-hand-fingers together < 1124884272 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1124884277 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its really hard < 1124884297 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why i tied my left.. < 1124884312 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you tourn your keyboard 180° its even harder! < 1124884366 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wah < 1124884422 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didi that and i dont f ind ,H-üöh+ < 1124884422 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i won't bother with that :) < 1124884446 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1124884449 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to normal mode < 1124885457 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, guess what < 1124885467 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're trying to make an esolang wiki in Korean < 1124887130 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. no new mail.. no new mail.. no new mail.. all the three boxes fine. :p < 1124887422 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gs30ng: i can't read Korean < 1124887466 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well since you are a non-english-native too, i thought this could inspire you in some way < 1124887488 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, esolang wiki in German? < 1124887731 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm no... < 1124888019 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1124888048 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both of the german esoprogrammers would be happy :) < 1124888085 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means 100% < 1124888447 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1124888683 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost < 1124889681 0 :Crest!n=crest@p5489748A.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1124889709 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin Crest < 1124890994 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. bye. < 1124890998 0 :Keymaker!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I've seen this déjà vu before.." < 1124890999 0 :Crest!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya < 1124891329 0 :Crest!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1124893018 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Shutting Down < 1124893197 0 :zauberzebra!n=zebra@dsl-084-060-131-057.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1124893331 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. JOIN :#esoteric < 1124893331 0 :irc.freenode.net!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o ChanServ < 1124893900 0 :zauberzebra!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/" < 1124896159 0 :nx5_off!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1124897421 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a GLOBAL notice < 1124897428 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's not afternoon here < 1124897435 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost midnight < 1124897640 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say semiglobal < 1124897772 0 :CXI!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1124897796 0 :CXI!i=Sanity@dialup-216.88.221.203.acc50-kent-syd.comindico.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1124899683 0 :WildHalcyon!n=wildhal@216.154.205.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1124900317 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1124900492 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@61.247.128.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1124903140 0 :BodyTag!n=X@216-169-189.0504.adsl.tele2.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1124904291 0 :BodyTag!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1124904770 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta sleep < 1124904774 0 :Gs30ng!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"sleep" < 1124911103 0 :int-e!n=noone@p54B3F47F.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1124913297 0 :calamari!n=Kid@cb03.cs.arizona.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1124913300 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1124913445 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1124913670 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. did the wiki just go down? < 1124913973 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there.. working again.. weird < 1124914402 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1124914404 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1124915164 0 :andreou!n=peace@195.130.98.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1124915762 0 :andreou!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ka-pow" < 1124915945 0 :Aardwolf!n=neusring@dD57651F8.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1124916011 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, is a language still considered esoteric if it contains high level commands like quickSort, getDeterminant, matrix multiplication, etc...? :) < 1124916278 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1124916329 0 :{^Raven^}!n={^Raven^@82-38-204-252.cable.ubr05.shef.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1124917470 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aardwolf: C was esoteric until it started being used. "Esoteric" basically means that it's only interesting to a select group. If it makes it big, sorry, but it loses its esoteric status ;). Otherwise, you're safe. < 1124917554 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I'm safe :D < 1124917607 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be especially interesting if it /only/ provided high-level functions and required that operations such as addition and subtraction be carried out by taking advantage of side effects :P < 1124917703 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1124917735 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muahahahaha < 1124917788 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be cool if someone made a language harder than malbolge < 1124917971 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :H..ard..er hmmm... < 1124918018 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall possibly endeavour to do so. Although Malbolge wasn't even necessarily designed to be TC, it just happened by chance < 1124919365 0 :calamari!n=calamari@dialup-4.240.114.185.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1124919594 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1124919616 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :howdy < 1124919715 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, btw, here's a language harder than malbolge: Every block separated by ; has to have the md5sum from a table of instructions + the instruction number. < 1124919726 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The md5sums map to BF commands, for example. < 1124919799 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi calamari < 1124919838 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi WildHalcyon, raven < 1124919845 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi everybody < 1124919849 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, thats fairly evil < 1124919862 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :raven: doesn't look like I'll be entering this year.. lost motivation as I'd feared < 1124919957 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: not sure i will be either but I'm gonna try - only restarted work on game today < 1124919968 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1124920011 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :entering what? < 1124920030 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2k" (10k) adventure game competition < 1124920045 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, ok < 1124920072 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is to build a text adventure in very little code < 1124920102 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using maximum of 2899 bytes code 8192 bytes data < 1124920121 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in an esolang, or any lang at all? < 1124920129 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any lang, within reason < 1124920133 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1124920153 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of curiousity, what would be considered unreasonable? < 1124920193 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just finished a 120 byte CCC1 decompressor < 1124920231 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a language that requires a huge runtime interpreter that you wrote especially for the purpose would be out < 1124920233 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lang for a system that isn't emulated / unavailable (can't test the game).. or using some special language you made that helps you cheat and get the size down.. probably cheating. < 1124920242 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1124920263 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kinds of compression ratios you get with CCC1? < 1124920296 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, good point < 1124920298 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noting a-z and a few punctuations gives 8:5 compression for very little < 1124920317 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or would that be 5:8 :) < 1124920330 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from 8 bits to 5 bits .. hehe < 1124920444 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 26% compression which gives me about an extra 2.8K of data < 1124920495 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the difference between code and data isn't clear? < 1124920495 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might add dictionary compression aswell to give me a better compression ratio < 1124920521 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aardwolf: then you don't mention it and nobody will know ;) < 1124920551 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION snickers < 1124920574 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it may hurt you as far as descriptions goes.. need space for text < 1124920632 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but may add in functionality if you are running out of code space < 1124920663 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try programming an intelligent text-adventure-creator that will create it's own endless adventure :D < 1124920683 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :already have that.. called Moria :) < 1124920720 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack, larn, rogue, adom, etc < 1124920735 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or !Billion which has a game a night until the 27,399th centuary < 1124920775 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im working on a good angband variant for my language... we'll see if it works < 1124920809 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't promise to keep it under 10K though < 1124920820 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing that always seemed lacking in roguelikes was multiplayer < 1124920864 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there have been some.. didn't really encourage cooperation though < 1124920869 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There have been a couple < 1124920874 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't they called MUDs? < 1124920886 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :muds are different though < 1124920898 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they are closer to a text adventure :) < 1124920944 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a graphical interface for a mud once.. almost got banned for "cheating" < 1124920950 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUDs are very much like text adventure games. < 1124920967 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas rogues are predecessors to 2D RPGs. < 1124920977 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(One could theorize) < 1124920985 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was cool too, because you could type a town name and it'd figure out the shortest nnumber of moves to get you there < 1124921013 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably why they didn't like it.. that and the filled out map < 1124921035 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most MUDs are fine with mapping nowadays *shrugs* < 1124921041 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is talking about compression? < 1124921050 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: i was < 1124921070 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a simple one is mtf with rice < 1124921082 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: btw.. see the log from a few days ago for some IRP ;) < 1124921082 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rice alike < 1124921092 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w00t < 1124921119 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtf + huffman is even better < 1124921122 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: can the decompression routine be written in under 320 bytes of code? < 1124921128 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{^Raven^}: depends < 1124921143 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on language / computer < 1124921175 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: my ccc1 decoder is 120 bytes and my dictonary decoder is 240ish < 1124921185 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{^Raven^}: what is ccc1? < 1124921198 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know many compressions but never saw ccc1 < 1124921205 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Can you be more specific? < 1124921226 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor: nope.. let me search the last few days for IRP < 1124921242 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{^Raven^}: what language do you use? < 1124921249 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: common character compression gives about 8:5 on lowercase only text and 4:3 on mixed text < 1124921271 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am using BBC BASIC version 5 < 1124921311 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what platforms there is an interpreter for it? < 1124921332 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :raven: ahh so what I mentioned was ccc1? hehe cool < 1124921357 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RISC OS, BBC Micro (Addon), Windows and on Unix under Wine < 1124921368 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh.. < 1124921374 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have none of them < 1124921376 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, found your response :) < 1124921400 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 bits = 32 characters - 26 (a-z), leaves 6 for punctuation. Can do auto first letter capitalization of sentences < 1124921413 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what day was it? I didn't find it :) < 1124921416 0 :kipple!n=kipple@163.80-202-100.nextgentel.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1124921441 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesterday? lol...... < 1124921448 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Mine will do anything in ASCII range 00-126 but is optimised for lowercase < 1124921462 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :raven: oh, neat < 1124921466 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to implement a mtf+rice-like compression in ruby < 1124921475 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: 10 most common characters are encoded in 4 bits < 1124921480 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I just realized something that IRP is especially good for! < 1124921507 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone please write "This sentence is grammatically correct." in Español. < 1124921526 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/me thinks: the world's best online translator!) < 1124921562 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or worlds worst.. < 1124921562 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't speak/write Español < 1124921570 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe < 1124921578 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nondeterministic :P < 1124921680 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eso frase es correcto gramaticalmente < 1124921692 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1124921718 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks good to me < 1124921734 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Web translation was never easier ( ... for me :P) < 1124921788 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(100% non error-free translation to korean:) ì´ í˜•ì€ ë¬¸ë²•ì ìœ¼ë¡œ 정확하다. please tell me what i wrote! < 1124921808 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :babelfish says: "that phrase is correct grammarly" < 1124921825 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for WildHalcyon ;) < 1124921847 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1124921863 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: you wrote: i009D' i00980095i.. etc ;) < 1124921875 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :babelfish is wrong on that point < 1124921882 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WildHalcyon: yeah I thin kyou got it right < 1124921912 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may not speak GREAT spanish, but I know how to use my dictionary right ;-) < 1124921923 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder why it said "that" instead of "this" < 1124921957 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1124921960 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I got that part wrong... < 1124921968 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(didnt look up "this" in my dictionary) < 1124921986 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm beginning to lose confidence in this translation program :P < 1124921994 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esto < 1124922001 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or esta < 1124922004 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be esta frase es correcto gramaticalmente < 1124922012 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(frase is feminine) < 1124922062 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. got more wrong than I thought < 1124922077 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn you IRP < 1124922082 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone please tell me if my program halts.. (just kidding) ;) < 1124922091 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHAHAAH < 1124922091 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My font is so screwed up, I see squares with 4 small hex numbers in each square, instead of korean characters < 1124922096 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRP? < 1124922115 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1124922124 0 :doferna!n=dof@201.254.77.7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1124922135 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{^Raven^}: http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/IRP < 1124922168 0 :doferna!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1124922174 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{^Raven^}: is there any chance i can run your programs on my mac ppc computer? < 1124922179 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I scared him/her away :P < 1124922205 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION FOCROFLMAO < 1124922288 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: probably not unless you have Windows or RISC OS emulator available < 1124922332 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could compile from source. Oh, wait, NEVER MIND. < 1124922351 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{^Raven^}: hmm.. < 1124922365 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RISC OS runs on arm based computer right? < 1124922368 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/away < 1124922416 0 :{^Raven^}!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix: yeah. there's lots of emulators available Red Squirrel is a good free (Windows) one < 1124922430 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a brainfuck clone called brainloller, it's exactly the same as brainfuck except that the commands are read from pixels of a png file and you can make 90 degree turns so that you can give the code certain shapes in the image. It's possible to put brainfuck code hidden in a picture. Is it worth publishing this? < 1124922464 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aardwolf: sure :) < 1124922472 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think its got merit < 1124922531 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aardwolf: one thing I managed to do with Microsoft BMP bitmaps is embed asm code into the palette that ran the interpreter. Maybe you can do something similar so it can be an executable :) < 1124922542 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the->an < 1124922589 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd try it with JPg, but I never really studied the format < 1124922708 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jpg is lossy, impossible to put code in that < 1124922712 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I uploaded it here: http://www.student.kuleuven.ac.be/~m0216922/brainloller/ < 1124922719 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the explanation is in main.cpp < 1124922760 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha a BMP executable, that sounds ownage :) < 1124922887 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you really, /really/ understood the compression format, you could put code in a lossy image format. < 1124922901 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true dat :D < 1124922924 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could make gigantic 100% quality jpegs 8-D < 1124922981 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well now you can compress your brainfuck code in pngs :D < 1124923152 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aardwolf: you can put code in jpeg < 1124923164 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by modifying the lower bit of the encoded frequencies < 1124923175 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with png tho? < 1124923189 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing < 1124923192 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :png is cool < 1124923285 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll port some brainfuck program to brainloller so that there's at least an example < 1124923286 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm off to KolourPaint < 1124923569 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION votes for Mandelbrot. < 1124923581 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mandelbrot! < 1124923610 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know someone who knows someone who knows mandelbrot! < 1124923615 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good because it's using graphics to represent text code that uses text to represent graphical output :) < 1124923622 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems unlikely :P < 1124923644 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: what? < 1124923690 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That you know someone who knows someone who knows Mandelbrot. < 1124923696 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I guess he is not a deity, and does exist :P < 1124923801 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: it's true! < 1124923814 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll believe you *shrugs* < 1124923867 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gn8 < 1124923872 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye. < 1124923882 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one who knows mandelbrot is heinz-otto peitgen < 1124923892 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he works at the university of bremen < 1124923926 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bitte waehlen Sie eine Beerdigungnachricht" < 1124925567 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed a bug and made hello.png for brainloller < 1124925861 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might be able to do it with lossless wavelet compression. Harr wavelets would be the easiest... < 1124925998 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For my senior design project as a EE major, I made an audio watermarking program. I lost the code, but its not hard to redevelop. You could turn that to a bf encoder as well. < 1124925999 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1124926027 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be hidden in anything :D < 1124926055 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, brainloller couldn't be (90 degree turns are.. tricky), but bf could. < 1124926132 0 :Aardwolf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 90 degree turns can safely be ignored when converting from brainloller back to 1D, all they do is tell where the next code will be, they don't change anything to the behaviour < 1124926166 0 :WildHalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, well that doesn't change much at least < 1124926573 0 :kipple!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. the wiki seems to be down < 1124926670 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)